Black Clover

[Munsu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7CnetWC3c


Asta is a young boy who dreams of becoming the greatest mage in the kingdom. He only has one problem, he can't use magic. Luckily for Asta, he receives the incredibly rare five-leaf clover grimoire that gives him the power of anti-magic. Even though he can't use magic, he plans to become the Wizard King. (from manga)


http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=19743

Was hopeful for Black Clover, seeming as a shounen series I could sit back and enjoy. What I got from the first episode instead was a poor man's Naruto with one of the most annoying characters I've come across. Not only was the character himself annoying, but the voice was cringe worth as well.

Not sure if I'll manage to watch more of it. I want to give it a try, but... yeah.

[David75]

You put all my gripes in words.
Having Sasuke named right before starting a jutsu was deliberately done...
Then the rivalry, the hokage equivalent in a country at war and the fact that one is super gifted when the other only has his extreme dedication to work.
And that super annoying voice. I hope it was only for the first ep.

[KrayZ33]

Can someone tell that VA to never voice a character like that again please...
holy shit.

I hope this show will either turn out better or utterly fail and fall together with everyone who is responsible for that.


What's going on with that voice anyway? Did the VA eat a frog or something...I'm really close to raging when I listen to it because I feel like I have to keep clearing my throat.

[neflight86]

He sounds like Hinata from Haikyuu is preparing for a climax every single line. I also could not stand it. Generic shounen is generic, and sort of a product of the genre (in a bad way).

This brings up a good 'get off my lawn' moment where I can complain about how the good old shounen series like HxH and One Piece relied on inventive ideas and characters to get me hooked instead of vague powers and cheap 'rivalries'... but then I remember Naruto is from that era... and I got to watch 50 episodes of One Piece before passing judgment... and HxH got a legendary adaptation from Madhouse... Thinking about it that way, I kind of feel sorry for Black Clover for tripping in its forerunners' footsteps. Not every shounen adaptation is going to be HeroAca, but maybe thats the standard they should aspire to?

[Munsu]

He sounds like Hinata from Haikyuu is preparing for a climax every single line. I also could not stand it.

Exactly.

[KrayZ33]

2nd episode was even worse btw.

The build up was horrible and took way to long.

[Koyuki]

Have anyone read the manga? Should I just read it instead?

[Munsu]

Well, just finished episode 4... and this was finally more to my liking. Not that it was good or anything, it was generic, but I have a soft spot for these types of scenarios, so I enjoyed it.

@Koyuki I haven't, but if I go simply by the main character VA, I'd say it wouldn't be a bad idea to read the manga... just not sure if it's good itself.

But, I'm not watching many series this season, so I don't mind keeping up with this series despite my misgivings.

[lelouch]

Whichever peckerhead came up with the tagline "Not giving up is my magic" needs to be strung up and kicked repeatedly in the goolies.

[DarthEnderX]

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So, am I crazy, or shouldn't Asta be able to get rid of the curse by touching his arms with his sword?

[David75]

Well, I stopped watching long but I'm surprised he didn't used that sword against his curse of idiocy... but he might lose his head so it's safer he's an idiot for never having that idea ;)

[DarthEnderX]

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Real talk? This shit is trying to give Naruto vs. Pain a run for it's money.

[KrayZ33]

@Darth

does MC's constant "korrRRAAA-ness"/screaming calm down at some point (it will probably never die out completely)?

Kinda want to watch it after skimming through some opening... the spells look like a lot of fun.
Not sure if I can stomach episode 1 Asta for basically 5 seasons worth of content though...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsK8SsfqdHE

that video is what got me interesting again. Cool music!

[Munsu]

Not up to date, but I'm still watching. Still think it's a crap shounen series, and the MC VA sucks major balls, but good enough to pass time for me.

I'm about 20 episodes behind.

[DarthEnderX]

@Darth

does MC's constant "korrRRAAA-ness"/screaming calm down at some point (it will probably never die out completely)?

Either it did, or my brain blocks it out now.

I think he actually changed the way he screams though.

[KrayZ33]

I'm 50 epsiodes in by now. It's true, the screaming kinda stops, or you start blocking it. It's certainly less than it was in the first 2 episodes.

The show has it's moments, the opening songs are
*amazing* and fun to look at. Right now they are fighting the Beast dude and the opening shows an attack of each member in super highdef and slow-motion. Really fancy with the song in the background.

It's 90% super-trash though, but that's true for Fairy Tail too.
Fairy Tail has much better music during the show itself and was a lot more emotional. I think the only time when I actually liked the background music was when Asta hit Light during their first encounter at the end.
Some of the jokes are really funny though, so there is that.

Oh... and each and every episode is only roughly 15 minutes long, what a sham, 30% of the screentime is basically recap and post ending chibi-stuff. But at least the flashbacks themselves are shorter and and quicker.

Overall, not a lot to discuss, pretty derpy show that can be watched when someone is utterly bored.

[MFauli]

I'm also at about Episode 50. Started again after watching a gigguk-video on youtube, because apparently something of actual consequence will happen to Asta ... fuck gigguk if it's not something Seriously epic :/

Also, I still want to see Asta marrying the nun at the end.

[DarthEnderX]

Some of the jokes are really funny though, so there is that.Some. Few and far between.

This show has the worst case of "This character is ONLY this joke. And whenever they are on screen, they WILL be doing that one joke." ever.

That said, Gordon's bit gets me every time, and I just feel SO bad for him.

[KrayZ33]

Basically, all the jokes come from the Captain.

When he abuses Portal guy to make him portals even if he just has to take a shit.
(And when Portal guy wanted to brag to the girls about what he has done in the last few weeks)
When he told the other captains after they came to his aid while he fought the Eyes and was about to be defeated
"Ahh.. darn... uhm 2 more seconds and I'm sure something would've awakened in me!"
or "How are we going to survive that - "Meh...I'll leave that to the me 5 seconds ahead"
etc. etc.

That dude is the best.

The rest are, as you said, basically - 1 character = 1 trait = 1 joke.
It's not like the captain doesn't have that ("I'll kill you") but these are the jokes that were on my mind when I wrote that.

[DarthEnderX]

He's definitely a self-aware shounen protagonist that's past his prime.

[DarthEnderX]

Got board enough to start catching up on this.

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I was NOT expecting that many people to be elves.

My prediction: Yuno is the reincarnation of Licht's unborn child. Which explains why he's still himself, because he has no elf memories to overwrite his human memories, because he wasn't born yet.

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Okay, that Blue Rose Knights episode was pretty funny. You can tell the Voice Actress was having a ton of fun with it.

[DarthEnderX]

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I wonder why nobody ever attacks Grimoires. Has there ever been an explanation for why that wouldn't work?

[Munsu]

I'm on episode 135, so it'll be a while before I catch up.

[DarthEnderX]

I thought that too, but a ton of it was filler (https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/black-clover) so I just skipped over it.

[Munsu]

I thought that too, but a ton of it was filler (https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/black-clover) so I just skipped over it.

Yep, I'm in filler hell at the moment.

[Munsu]

Looks like the series ended with episode 170. Not sure if they caught up to the manga, or if there'll be another series in the future. Been trying to avoid spoilers, but from the headlines it seems like it was a cool final fight.

[DarthEnderX]

Well now I have to avoid talking about it...

[Munsu]

Well now I have to avoid talking about it...

No you don't. I'll read your thoughts eventually.

[DarthEnderX]

170

The end huh? Good. This show was already lousy with filler.

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So Asta's Kyuubi is just Bakugo? :p

That fight was fine, but not nearly as climactic as Yami+Asta vs Spade guy.