Gundam Build Fighters

[MFauli]

Huh, I was sure there was a thread for this already, but I couldnt find anything. Here goes:

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The story is set in the near future when GunPla Battles, competitions that pit Gundam plastic models against each other, have become popular worldwide in the "Second GunPla Boom." Sei Iori, a first-year middle-school student and the only son of a model shop owner, is talented at building GunPla, but inexperienced in the GunPla Battles. He encounters a mysterious boy named Reiji, who happens to be an accomplished Gundam Fighter. Together, they strive for the GunPla Battle world championships.

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The fight versus Fellini was reaaaally neat. Im still waiting for the inevitable revelation that the typical Gundam-universe is actually real, after all its heavily hinted at with Reiji and that silver girl. Its sometimes hard to enjoy the drama when its only toys. So maybe that will change.

Still, great episode.

[Kraco]

I started to watch this show after I noticed the Finnish character and wanted to see it for myself out of petty curiosity. You say it can be hard to enjoy the drama when it's only toys, but in this specific case it's the opposite for me: I tend to find Gundam hard to enjoy because it's so much about the Gundam religion and Gundam and Gundam and Gundam and Gundam, but since they are all toys in this show, it doesn't really matter. I mean, it's all basically simulated in the game here, even if there is a physical part to it and the build of the toy matters hugely, but in the end they are still toys in a game. Above all the skills of the one remote controlling the toy seem to matter much more than in the actual Gundam shows I've watched, where it has almost always been a simple situation of a true Gundam beating all the other mecha out of the sky no questions asked, just because it's Gundam.

I've been enjoying this surprisingly much. The fights have been good enough. I very much doubt there's going to be any revelation the real Gundam universe is there, like you say. This show is about the toy fighting tournament. The other stuff is there only to build the characters, to give them some extra personality and motivation. Reiji and the company boss are from some other world, and the boss brought the technology with him, I reckon, so I suppose that's a nice enough explanation to make the games possible.

I don't really expect it to happen, but I hope Aila and Renji get a bit closer to each other. Otherwise I'm just looking forward to seeing the rest of the tournament.

I guess this should technically be in the Gundam forum...

[vejita613]

I thought about making a thread for this in the Gundam forums, but I failed to update with Gundam Age so I figured I better not try. Then again, this is far more interesting than AGE.

GBF is just a treat for anyone who's seen every other Gundam series. Most episodes I crack up just on all the difference references being made. Also this is one of the few chances that we will ever see mobile suits from other series going at each other. And who thought we would ever see G-Savior in animated form?

Last episode was pretty good. I wonder if we will see new improvements to the Fenice and SB Strike.

[Kraco]

Last episode was pretty good. I wonder if we will see new improvements to the Fenice and SB Strike.

If Iori indeed is as talented as Moustache-san says, then he ought to seize the opportunity to include something new, considering he's almost rebuilding the thing from scratch. That would be logical, even if he can't very well have the time to revolutionize it anymore, nor test and finetune whatever he does. On the other hand, the mecha's capabilities have been finally shown through and through, so it might be more interesting to watch them to put it to perfect use when the audience already knows the technical limits, instead of just pulling new stuff out of nowhere.

One thing bothering me is how nobody's paying any attention to Aila's fighting style, which is utterly different from everybody else. I reckon nobody knows what's really happening when her opponents are immediately obliterated. You'd think people would strive to find out what's going on so that they could defend themselves against it, especially if she's a one-technique wonder, despite the lance the mecha is carrying as well. All the others are fighting remarkably traditionally compared to her.

[vejita613]

One thing bothering me is how nobody's paying any attention to Aila's fighting style, which is utterly different from everybody else. I reckon nobody knows what's really happening when her opponents are immediately obliterated. You'd think people would strive to find out what's going on so that they could defend themselves against it, especially if she's a one-technique wonder, despite the lance the mecha is carrying as well. All the others are fighting remarkably traditionally compared to her.

Agreed. It kind of feels like she's being ignored. Maybe because she's a girl? I wouldn't think so since she's taking out all her opponents in a matter of seconds. She even took out last years world champion. In real sports, how many hours to players and coaching staff usually take to watch videos of the opposing teams? I figure the same would be true for this as well. I would expect we would see groups of people gathering before each match trying to figure out some sort of defense against her. She's obviously using some sort of funnel/bit system, but there aren't even any beams. Possibly extremely fast, melee version? She had that lance thing with her the last match but she doesn't even really need it.

Also, was I the only one that was surprised to see Iori's Dad? For some reason, I had this impression since the start of the series that he was dead.

[Kraco]

Also, was I the only one that was surprised to see Iori's Dad? For some reason, I had this impression since the start of the series that he was dead.

Nah, I'm quite sure they mentioned he's merely travelling abroad. At the very least I never thought he would be gone for good. If he was, I think it would have affected Sei and Rinko a bit more. The old man returning is bad news for Ral-san, though, since he might not be able to hang out at the shop ogling Rinko so much anymore.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

One thing bothering me is how nobody's paying any attention to Aila's fighting style, which is utterly different from everybody else. I reckon nobody knows what's really happening when her opponents are immediately obliterated. You'd think people would strive to find out what's going on so that they could defend themselves against it, especially if she's a one-technique wonder, despite the lance the mecha is carrying as well. All the others are fighting remarkably traditionally compared to her.

Considering that the plot progresses similar to say, Beyblade, etc., I doubt it would be an issue until the actual fight against any of the real competitors (because, let's face it, everyone else is just there to be blown up.). Everyone in the tournament practically have the mindset of "no one is a threat" save for Sei and Reiji. In fact, their Gundam has been the only one that has been analyzed by their competitors. So far, the biggest threats should be Aila (Invisible/Mirrored Funnels), Nils (some sort of plavsky particle power up with the secondary arms), and Tatsuya (Lots of guns).

So far, the show has been great. I do appreciate that all suits are basically equal and can be destroyed with a well placed shot. This makes it so no one suit is the end all be all. Can't wait to see the Exia Dark Matter (last silhouetted gundam in the opening). If I had to guess, the last enemy will either be that or Tatsuya.

Edit: This show reminds me alot of Angelic Layer, just with Gundams.

[Kraco]

She's obviously using some sort of funnel/bit system, but there aren't even any beams. Possibly extremely fast, melee version?.


So far, the biggest threats should be Aila (Invisible/Mirrored Funnels),

After a couple of her wins, I began to think maybe it's some kind of monofilament whip, naturally powered by the plavsky particles.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

After a couple of her wins, I began to think maybe it's some kind of monofilament whip, naturally powered by the plavsky particles.

Probably more like fangs from 00 since we can't be sure she is even firing. Maybe she is firing condensed plavsky particles.

I kinda hate that bandai has toys since it ruins the surprise of what some of the suits in the opening will look like. I won't post them here, but for those interested, scans have poped up of what Miss Sazabi and Exia Dark Matter look like.

[vejita613]

I saw Sazabi. I haven't seen Exia yet. But yes, it is rather annoying how they do that. I think the same thing happened with Build MK II and Star Build. I mean I get they want to hype up their gunpla but atleast wait until they show up first before you start spoiling everything.

[lelouch]

I'm 3 episodes in and this show is just completely ridiculously stupid. Is the intended audience 7-10 year-olds with the advertising at full throttle? Go, Build Strike Full Package!

[Kraco]

I'm 3 episodes in and this show is just completely ridiculously stupid. Is the intended audience 7-10 year-olds with the advertising at full throttle? Go, Build Strike Full Package!

You can watch the sage releases if the ads bother you. Otherwise what you say is true, with the exception that I reckon the age range is likely much larger. All manner of Gundam models have always been sold to collectors (or in fact all manner of merchandise). Fortunately it's not like the story itself would be nothing but a giant, blatant commercial.

[Kraco]

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Looks like Aila can fight more traditionally as well, with an inferior machine. It's kind of strange how she's made so indifferent (what comes to Gunpla) yet got so easily into the final 16. Of course Nemesis likely poured vast amounts of money into the model and other stuff, but surely she must have some skills as well, despite hating the sport. Although she once said it's painful so I imagine there's something shady going on, maybe the helmet she's wearing isn't all aesthetics but serves some functional purpose, like enhancing parallel processing that's hurting her senses and brain.

Pretty poor art in this episode, I have to say. I'm not normally one to pay extra attention to it, so it needs to get quite abysmal before I take notice. But better take money from the budget of a filler episode like this rather than actual tournament fights, as much as I enjoy watching Aila.

Too bad about the Iori old man. He's been away from home for a long time, and with a super hot wife like that waiting for him, there's no question about what he would have wanted to do all night long. But then again, that's what he deserves for trying to be too mysterious without having the wits for it.

[MFauli]

Booo! I thought the dad was dead or something. Now what about my fanfic about Rinko and the mustache-guy becoming a couple :(

Episode itself was mediocre. The gunpla-building stuff felt a bit too much like an advertising.

[vejita613]

Ugh no, after all the...pictures I've seen of Ral/Rinko, I will pass. Besides, Ra was married in the original series. He should be married in this series to dang it.

I rather liked this episode, but mostly because I like Reiji and Aila. It's kind of disappointing that Sei didn't see his Dad, but he seems OK with it. At the very least, he instilled the joy of building Gunpla into them. Makes me want to start building again. I still have two RG's I need to work on.

Looks like they will be facing off against Mao next episode. "Ready? Go!" made me laugh. Also makes me wonder why there aren't more G Gundam Gunpla in these tournaments. It's the one Gundam series that would make the most sense.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

There has been some minor representation from G-Gundam. Nobel gundam was in an early episode. Maxter Gundam was in the race. In the opening, a Master Gundam variant is one of the silhouettes. I doubt you will see much more than that though since this show ignores other series gundam abilities. None of the G-Gundams could achieve hyper mode since this show follows the use of Plavsky Particles.

[Kraco]

Aren't the battles basically augmented reality in this show? The arenas seems to scan the Gundam models and then give them attributes according to the scan results (so that something that looks like a rifle would shoot a beam or a missile would get propulsion and a working warhead). Other than that, it seems to me the system also rewards innovative modding, like unusual building materials, although that might be partially related to how the stuff reacts with plavsky particles. So, basically anything should be able to happen, but some things might be removed/limited for the sake of fair play. Aside from the movements of the physical models, it's all an illusion, after all.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Excellent battle with Mao this week. I can't wait to see them fight Nils.

[vejita613]

Man I felt so bad for Mao. But, unlike the match with Fellini, there could only be one winner. He fought hard, nothing to be ashamed about.

I don't think I could be a student at the Shingyo school. They believe in originality in Gunpla, while I try to make mine as closely as possible to how they are represented from the source material. Customized Gunpla looks nice and everything, but it's not something I've personally been interested in doing. I do like their philosophy though and the Master's taste in female characters.

[Kraco]

It was a surprisingly entertaining fight despite the outcome being obvious from the start, for the sake of the larger story. So, instead the episode concentrated on building Mao's character still a bit more and give the fight some extra spirit, or purity, so that it would matter in other ways.

I never liked the whole Meijin Kawaguchi phenomenon, so I'm happy he actually needs to invest some effort in getting rid of his next opponent, apparently getting surprised once or twice during the battle.

But more than anything, I'm now wondering how the next tier in the upper left quadrant will end up: It's going to be Fellini vs Aila. This time they didn't even bother to show the first fights, but I very much doubt they could shrug off Fellini's next fight by only announcing the result afterwards. Fellini has been around for a long time now, interacting with Reiji a lot, but on the other hand they already met in battle. If Aila lost the fight, she would never fight against Reiji and Reiji wouldn't even learn she's one of the top combatants in the tournament, which would be more than strange all things considered. So, I guess she will win. Naturally that would make her all the more ominous opponent for Reiji and Iori in the semi-final, seeing how those two respect Fellini a lot.

[MFauli]

Of course, Aila wins. How was that ever in question.

[DarthEnderX]

I thought about making a thread for this in the Gundam forums, but I failed to update with Gundam Age so I figured I better not try.Does there even still need to BE a Gundam subforum then?

[Kraco]

Of course, Aila wins. How was that ever in question.

It wasn't, I suppose. Kind of like how the story has all the main characters on the left side (save Meijin if you can even count him a main character), so that there would be meaningful fights before the final. I guess the real question, then, would be that why Aila will lose against Reiji & Iori. I hope she won't give up because Reiji isn't here really for the title of the champion like Iori, he's just in for the good fights. She might change her tactics, though, to something more fancy and lose because she's not used to it. Up until now her fights have been kind of unclimactic. I hope they will show the fight against Fellini, and whether she will defeat him like all the others before him or choose or need to do something more flashy.

We, probably, still have a good number of eps left, so perhaps Reiji (& Iori) will make Aila like the game instead of hate it before the end.

[vejita613]

Does there even still need to BE a Gundam subforum then?

Unless this thread gets moved there, I would say probably not. The only other Gundam related thing to talk about these days is Gunpla and the supposed new series that they are supposed to be announcing in the future (which is probably going to be Gundam Origin, but who knows? ).

[MFauli]

I feel like that battle was extremely forced by what needed to happen plot-wise, not what would have been logical.

That last attack of the Meijin against the twins´ main-mecha made me think "why didnt they just jump out of the way or dodge the attack any other way?!". Made no sense to me, having seen all those previous battles where everybody was evading laser gun shots with flashy maneuvers.

Speaking of which, why didnt Kawaguchi just rush into the enemy and overpower them? No, suddenly there´s this sniper laser beam that´s super deadly. Okay.

I enjoy this anime for what it is (and thanks to MILF-of-the-forever Rinko), but you definitely mustnt think to hard.

[Kraco]

I thought this fight was a lot better than I anticipated, considering the outcome was obvious, and at the same time one of the best fights in the show so far. Although I don't know why the hound was such a shock, but the man-models were pretty funny as a detail. The Renato brothers really were fighting a war rather than a simple Gundam duel.

Above all it was good to see Meijin taken down a notch in a believable manner. I'm sure Yuuki's behavior is largely theater dictated by Kawaguchi's character, but it's still annoying.

Mao's fate was pretty funny: He botched his own date and then happened upon the happy group date of Sei, China, Reiji, and Aila.

[vejita613]

Freakin' EXAM system. Did NOT expect that at all lol.


Above all it was good to see Meijin taken down a notch in a believable manner.

Agreed. Ever since he took on that title he seems to be a lot less interesting. They still haven't really explained all that yet have they?

Speaking of taken down a notch, I can't wait to see "samurai boy" get his next week.

[Kraco]

Speaking of taken down a notch, I can't wait to see "samurai boy" get his next week.

He's kind of an interesting case. While I consider the whole samurai and ninja stuff as stupid as Mr. Bushido in 00, it's still somewhat understandable considering Nielsen is still a kid (at least I think he is), despite being some prodigy physicist. What makes him interesting is that he's not so much into Gundam and the fights as he is interesting in the plasvky particles. He's just so fricking good he could create a highly competitive model and fight with it despite his real interest being elsewhere. He's a much better man than Meijin, who's nothing but a mannequin for the company running the games but still acts like he's the real thing. Meijin's kind of pitiful compared to everybody else, for whom it's a sport and hobby (Iori, Reiji, Mao mostly, Fellini, etc), an object for scientific study (Samurai boy), or simply a job (Aila).

But yeah, it should be an interesting fight. Though I'm repeating myself, but I hope the Aila+Fellini fight will also get some screen time. Above all, I want Iori & Reiji to finally watch a single fight of Aila's, so that they could plan some bloody tactics. It would be their last chance before they face her themselves.

[vejita613]

I enjoyed Mr. Bushido, but I can see what you're saying. I do find their similarities very...amusing atleast.

I don't know, Nielsen just irritates me for some reason. Maybe it's because he's not really interested in the Gunpla at all.

Aila vs Fellini fight better be aired. I just wonder if Reiji will find out who she is during that fight or during his fight with her. DRAMA.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Speaking of taken down a notch, I can't wait to see "samurai boy" get his next week.

Well, we all know he will lose but I can't see them winning before he completely tears their Gundam apart. One thing for sure is that Nils will learn the true spirit of Beybl... I mean Gunpla before he loses. I find it sad that I care more about the other competitors than Sei and Reiji.

As for this past battle, I would've preferred it if the brothers were later down the line in the fights. They clearly deserved a better loss then what was given to them. I really don't understand how he was even able to fit that gatling in that small container.

[vejita613]

I find it sad that I care more about the other competitors than Sei and Reiji.

Is it even more sad that I care more for the Gunpla than the competitors (except Aila. Delicious, delicious Aila).

Strike will take quite a beating next week as seen in the preview. Looks like it will be about as bad as what Maou gave them.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Is it even more sad that I care more for the Gunpla than the competitors (except Aila. Delicious, delicious Aila).

Speaking of Gunpla, I'm still wondering how all of those other silhouetted suits the Chairman has will come into play.

[Kraco]

I find it sad that I care more about the other competitors than Sei and Reiji.

Sei and Reiji are among the purest Gunpla competitors, no doubt. Sei cares about the Gundam models more than anything, Reiji enjoys the Gunpla fights simply as fights and challenges. They have no ulterior motives, they want fair games, and they want to have fun. In other words, they are pretty boring. Quite a few of the other more prominent competitors have/had some other qualities affecting them. At least Reiji is made more interesting simply by associating with Aila.

[Kraco]

Episode 19 - HS (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=524102)






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It's sort of a pity the results of these fights are predestined. This fight was quite good as well, although not nearly as good as Meijin's, as this was almost all about the models' special attributes and next to no tactics. The glue part was almost the only surprise, but I suppose it was a decent explanation for allowing the fortune to favour Iori & Reiji. Considering how he likes to play ninja and do other useless shit, I'd have expected Nils to understand Iori & Reiji enough to realise they wouldn't want to win by default.

Quite interesting the next ep preview actually shows Fellini damaging Aila's gunpla, which is something nobody has managed to pull of until now. Maybe they are even trying to make it look like Fellini has a chance? I surely hope Aila isn't on the verge of giving up, no matter how conflicted she is. The episode title is interesting, in any case.

[MFauli]

Is that Yajima Trade-girl the same blonde girl from Gin no Saji? God, how I hate characters like her. That hellish laughter. ugh


The battle against Nielsen was surprisingly bad. No cleverness or special tactics at all, just one big power struggle. Disappointing after all the Nielsen-hype.

[vejita613]

The battle against Nielsen was surprisingly bad. No cleverness or special tactics at all, just one big power struggle. Disappointing after all the Nielsen-hype.

Agreed. You would have figured after the first punch either side would have realized forever punching will only result in the loss of limbs. "Oh, I just loss a limb from that attack? I'll just do it again! It's sure to work this time!" Yeah, no.

Also, what the hell was the point of Baker trying to sponsor Nielsen? He was already planning on winning anyways, there wasn't any need to talk with him directly. She didn't really do anything to rig the match this time either except suspend it for a few minutes. Her reaction to Sei and Reiji was classic though. I really need to have a sig made out of that.

I guess Reiji/Sei vs Fellini battle a few episodes makes sense now as they probably wont be meeting anymore. I wonder how Aila is going to reveal herself. Walk up to Reiji and take off her helmet? Should be interesting. In the mean time, I will be racking my brain as to where I heard the last line of the preview before. "Tell us its a lie, Miss Aina!" If I had to guess, I'd say 0083 but its been too long.

[Kraco]

Also, what the hell was the point of Baker trying to sponsor Nielsen?

I doubt she was hired just to get rid of two players. She seems to be a long-time and trusted secretary or whatever of the scumbag company president. Maybe she was actually doing her real job for a change and tried to hire a famous (in those circles) person to advertise gunpla battles.

In truth, she offered him a lab and resources. I guess she thought that if they could raise his model's attributes by 5%, it would bring the goal that much closer.

[vejita613]

In truth, she offered him a lab and resources. I guess she thought that if they could raise his model's attributes by 5%, it would bring the goal that much closer.

Ah yes, I forgot about that part. Makes sense. Offer Sei/Reijis next opponent with near unlimited resources in order to beat them. I wonder what would have happened had she allowed him to investigate the truth behind the particles. Sad thing is, with this pace we may never get to find out that truth. I think this series is only 25 episodes (according to myanimelist anyways).

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Overall, this was a disappointing fight. Why is it that Nils forgot that his gundam had two extra arms? If he mastered chinese martial arts, then why was he using a single move over and over? You would think that he just would've flipped Reiji since he was flying at him fist first, but I guess that is the problem with knowing who is going to win. The loser has to be stupid before the end like the brothers last week. Guess the fights will just erupt into poor G-Gundam style brawls when Sei and Reiji fight.

I am guessing Fellini will reveal Aila's secret next episode about her invisible funnels with the help of the snow. If he didn't, how else would Sei and Reiji win against her.


Should be interesting. In the mean time, I will be racking my brain as to where I heard the last line of the preview before. "Tell us its a lie, Miss Aina!" If I had to guess, I'd say 0083 but its been too long.

Pretty sure that was 08th MS team when Shiro found out Aina was in the Apsalus or after the hot spring thing.

[vejita613]

Pretty sure that was 08th MS team when Shiro found out Aina was in the Apsalus or after the hot spring thing.

Ah yes. I can't believe I got Aina confused with Nina Purpleton. I have shamed myself as a Gundam fan. 1000 lashings.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

So Aila has a Zero/Trans-Am system on top of invisible funnels. Hopefully, her loss will not be a some fist fighting BS.

[MFauli]

Still no new episode at HorribleSubs :/ This sub group has been lacking this past week, to say it politely ...

[vejita613]

So Aila has a Zero/Trans-Am system on top of invisible funnels. Hopefully, her loss will not be a some fist fighting BS.
I don't think that was Trans-am. Pretty sure with Trans-am, the whole MS glows red. Zero system I can see, though.

[Kraco]

Zero system I can see, though.

It looked exactly like something like that. This fight was so unstylish and brutish that it was hard to really see where Aila's own skills ended and the computer took over. Obviously she has fought every battle so far depending on the computer link. When she dropped out of that, at least for a large part, she started to suck quite badly, especially at this level, against opponents like Fellini. The fact the chairman said it doesn't matter if her brain is fried as she could be replaced any time suggests the same: The strength of Team Nemesis doesn't depend on the pilot's skills, but on the compatibility with the system.

While it's kind of a pity the first fight we really saw from Aila was marred by her regrets and hesitation and the subsequent consequences, I suppose something like this was foreshadowed since a long time ago. She even said in one episode the gunpla fights are nothing but painful. After seeing this episode, it's quite clear why she never told Reiji who she is; the gunpla fights are totally different for her compared to everybody else.

[MFauli]

Well, that episode was kinda embarrassing.

First Kirara shouting "Felling, stop, you cant fight like this!" , like, what, should he just give up? It´s a game, where nobody dies. And the tournament is over if he gives up. Of course, he´d fight until he cannot anymore.

Secondly, those dramatic shouts when Aila kept stabbing the Fenice. That in itself was rather comedic, but Kirara being all shocked? Just lol.

Also, why would Fenice have a self-destruct function? That´s a complete bitch-move. "I cant win, so I make sure you wont, either". sigh

Defeating Aila will be 100% bs though, seeing how strong she´s been portrayed in this episode.

On a final note, wow is Aila hot at 8:51. Skin tight suits are fantastic, but that angle is just pure hotness.

[Kraco]

Defeating Aila will be 100% bs though, seeing how strong she´s been portrayed in this episode.


Who knows. She wasn't particularly strong against Fellini before they made the system take over. She was badly distracted by the thought the next fight will be against Reiji, so how will she fare during that very fight? If they force her again to the insane state we saw in this episode, she might lose due to her brain breaking down... But I guess we wouldn't see such a scene in a show like this, aimed at younger audiences. Maybe Reiji will tell her that she needs to fight seriously or he won't forgive her, and she will listen to the request. I certainly hope we will see a serious fight, not bullshit like this one.

[Kraco]

Episode 21 - HS (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=528890)




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Hmm... What to say. I guess Aila was, after all, super special despite the geezer's claim they could fry her brain if needed and get a replacement. However, she clearly ceased to be anything special in practice without the system. I don't know if it was because she hated the fights and gunplan in general and thus never really embraced the mentality of a player or achieved skills beyond what was necessary to work with the system. After all, as soon as she threw the helmet away, she put up a much lousier fight against Reiji than great many of Reiji's past opponents. I can't really blame her too much considering what a cold douche the Doctor was, with psychology skills falling below a Terminator's.

I didn't expect to see that sort of telepathic space in this show, though, even if it's so common in Gundam it's no wonder as such. But this is about a bloody game. To be honest I didn't care about the mushy parts at all, and consequently I was disappointed by the fight. I was hoping for Reiji and the others to get their act together and lecture Aila before the fight so that we would have had a stylish contest. Instead we got one where Reiji & Iori were repetitively saved by Aila not wanting to fight, and then they won when she threw away her best card and fought like a random joe from the streets.

A pity about the fight. At least Reiji offering the Iori household for Aila to move in was quite funny.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

And just like that, everyone's favorite females are under the same household. That seemed to be the only positive to draw from this episode.

The entire fight was bs again as you said. Reiji didn't even destroy the second round funnels. she could have reactivated them. We also see that Aila is a complete novice who can't dodge a single punch. Maybe she will get better when the show does the eventual second season. That doctor clearly didn't learn his lesson. I expect to see him back with a new pilot if they do another season unless he reconciles with Aila and the old man before the season ends.

The next episode will hopefully be good. Meijin vs Qan[T]. If the Renalto bros were any indication, I expect to see him struggle throughout the match against one of my favorite suits. Also looks like the pilot is a Graham/Mr. Busido look-a-like so that is a plus for me too.

Edit: My bad, not the qan[T] but the Exia Repair.

[Kraco]

Episode 22 - HS (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=531330)





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This is the kind of fight I'd have liked to see between Reiji and Aila once Aila threw the helmet away, not the kind of disgrace we were served. I wouldn't exactly call this a very artistic or exciting fight, to be honest, it was rather a very textbook fight that proggressed smoothly from the simplest technique available to the gunplas to the more advanced ones. Kind of like a poster fight, a fight that could be used in a commersial to advertise the Gunpla battle system.

One thing I found just a bit dubious was Aila's vast personality change. Based on the flashbacks and stories she has always been an orphan probably sticking to the streets rather than "enjoying" the facilities or foster care provided/assigned by the government. Until she was picked from the streets by the douche Doctor and had to enjoy the torture they called gunpla training. Quite understandably she was super gloomy in the flashbacks and most of the time even in Reiji's company, although we probably saw some glimpses of the personality she would have possessed if she had had a more normal childhood. However, now she's suddenly all happy-go-lucky. I think it would have been a bit more realistic if she was a bit more skeptic about her future. When a person has been kicked in the head for all her life, she shouldn't trust so easily the first hand offering a freebie. But then again, this show is basically comedy during the moments not centering on gunpla, so I guess it makes sense.

[vejita613]

his is the type of battles I want to see. Trans-am vs F-91's after images. God Gundams God Finger vs Turn X's Shining finger. Wing Zero's Twin Buster Rifles vs Gundam Double X's Twin Satellite Cannons. THIS IS WHY I WATCH THIS SHOW.

Thank you Sunrise. Thank you for this. I mean it.


One thing I found just a bit dubious was Aila's vast personality change. Based on the flashbacks and stories she has always been an orphan probably sticking to the streets rather than "enjoying" the facilities or foster care provided/assigned by the government. Until she was picked from the streets by the douche Doctor and had to enjoy the torture they called gunpla training. Quite understandably she was super gloomy in the flashbacks and most of the time even in Reiji's company, although we probably saw some glimpses of the personality she would have possessed if she had had a more normal childhood. However, now she's suddenly all happy-go-lucky. I think it would have been a bit more realistic if she was a bit more skeptic about her future. When a person has been kicked in the head for all her life, she shouldn't trust so easily the first hand offering a freebie. But then again, this show is basically comedy during the moments not centering on gunpla, so I guess it makes sense.

Depends on the person too. She might be like that now because she just had a huge burden lifted from her shoulders. Plus you know...Reiji.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

That was a great battle. I am still wondering how all of those extra suits that chairman has will fall into play though.

[Kraco]

Episode 23 - HS (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=533484)



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If you don't want anybody to see what you have hidden in the basement, you might want to start by buying locks for all the doors...

Quite an uneventful episode, but it wasn't so bad. I suppose it will make the final match starting in the next ep feel a bit more special when they broke the chain of matches that had been somewhat smooth up until now, thus separating it. I wonder what the shock at seeing Meijin's gunpla was all about, plus the exclamation they don't want the match to be like that. I find it hard to believe this Meijin would use any shady methods, even if the douche doctor paid a visit to the chairman's office. Maybe there's again some outside interference and it was about that, not about anything Yuuki was doing.

I wanted to see Aila fight one last time. Fellini losing to Kirara because he needed to treat her gently was pretty funny, but I didn't care about all those others.

[vejita613]

All those cameos really hit home, especially the family scene like Uso's family, Domon's family, and Benard-Christine-Alfred.

Also, Turn X should never....EVER loose to a freakin Gyan, I don't care how pimped out it is.

It's also a shame they couldn't get Ikeda to fill in for "NOT Char".

[vejita613]

HS - Episode 24 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=535783)

For the final match, it felt kind of "meh". Trans-am is a well established ability, and the RG thing just never felt like it should have the ability to beat it imo.

I wonder how many cameos they plan to cram into the final episode.

[Kraco]

Meh indeed. I wish they had concentrated more on the actual match, less on the chairman proving that once a petty thief, always a petty thief. I've no doubt an honest fight would have been better than this robotic one. Especially since Yuuki would have likely fought better if he had been himself. There's no way he wouldn't have fought for victory or would have arbitrarily given up, as that would have been disrespecting the opponent.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Really disappointing last battle. Punched to defeat again. I jokingly thought that Sei and Reiji would punch the darkness out of the Exia and it really happened. On that note, did anyone else like the Exia Amazing better than the Dark Matter? I really like the design with the original colors.

The next episode is so convenient. Now everyone can show off what their newly built gunplas can do. Hopefully there will be some good cameos like the last episode.

[Kraco]

Episode 25 Final - HS (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=538004)



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This episode was hilariously unneeded in a show that should have been about the gunpla tournament, but I suppose I'll be happy simply because Aila hijacked the transfer and ended up in Reiji's world. I forgot she had a crystal of her own and when Reiji disappeared and she didn't jump like the petty thief chairman's secretary did, I was already feeling highly disappointed. All the better when she suddenly was there, after all. Maybe she will even be at home in that world since she can see the particles in a raw form without any devices.

The chairman was really burdened by his sins. He literally begged forgiveness from Reiji. He had no real reason to even approach him in the first place, especially if he had been genuinely as wicked as he seemed, but nevertheless he did. Maybe he was homesick after all.

This was quite a surprisingly entertaining show. It would have been even better if it had concentrated still more on the tournament and the fights and the script writer had come up with other finishing moves in addition to the punch.

[MFauli]

Ugh, is this really the end of it?

This was the best episode, for sure. And it felt like this is where it really begins. Come on, give me another season that changes the tone and transfers Yori to Reiji´s world. Have real gundam fights take place, where Yori and possible other travellers like Fellini learn about the gruesomeness of really piloting their machine instead of it being a just a virtual representation.

Oh god, that would make for such an awesome tonal shift, like when Dragonball went to Dragonball Z, or when Ichigo quit his dumb little death god jobs and entered Soul Society. Seriously, dont let it end here.

[NeoCybercoin]

Just realized this thread isn't in the Gundam Section.

[vejita613]

http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2014/05/gundam-build-fighters-season-2-announced.html

Well that was fast. But, I'm excited.

[Kraco]

I wouldn't call myself excited because of these news, but I was pretty satisfied with the first season, so why not. I hope the next season will stick to a tournament more faithfully, dropping unnecessary external factors. I don't mean drama between players, though, or matches outside of the championship, those were cool and necessary, but stuff like the final battle in the first season against the berserk machine, which was totally meaningless. If they want a grand fight, it could be a part of the normal competition.

I certainly wouldn't like real gundam fighting like some tool commented on that news site vejita linked to. There are real gundam shows for that, after all, this should be about gunpla.

[MFauli]

great news. now have the mother divorce from her generic husband, have her be part of the cast again, and we´re set.

Oh, and I´m also looking forward to more story lol. Hopefully, season 2 will be about Sei-kun following Reiji into his world, where Gundam is real.

[vejita613]

As long as we don't have anymore "punch to win" scenarios, I think I will be OK. That sort of formula works for G Gundam, but not so much here.

[Kraco]

Build Try Episode 1 - HS (http://nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=606863)





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At first I thought Sekai was Reiji and Aila's fricking kid, knowing this takes place in the future from the original show and having forgotten just how much. After all, he looks like Reiji Junior. But then it turned out it's only seven years, so it's quite impossible, unless there's some weird temporal difference between Reiji's world and Earth. In any case, I had low expectations. I liked the characters of the first season and to be honest I only intended to have a look at this because I was hoping for cameos (and we got one, but unfortunately it was only the Old Man Mustachio). However, this turned out quite interesting. I guess I'll keep watching, after all, after such a jolly first episode.

[vejita613]

I liked the characters of the first season and to be honest I only intended to have a look at this because I was hoping for cameos (and we got one, but unfortunately it was only the Old Man Mustachio).

Ramba Ral is never an unfortunate cameo.

This episode left me with some questions that need answering:

Why the hell was there a Dom in the trophy? We never saw Sei build one of those, especially not for the tournament.

Why the hell was there a Gundam inside of a Dom? We never saw him build that either.

Also, Fumina is my Gundam waifu.

[Kraco]

Ramba Ral is never an unfortunate cameo.

This episode left me with some questions that need answering:

Why the hell was there a Dom in the trophy? We never saw Sei build one of those, especially not for the tournament.

Why the hell was there a Gundam inside of a Dom? We never saw him build that either.

Yeah, he's a cool old man. But to be honest, I wanted to see somebody flashier.

You talk as if Sei had died right after winning the championship. He was just a kid back then. He had years of school left. Obviously he did that stuff during that time, for whatever reason. Actually, if I had been Sei, I might have done the same thing just for the heck of it. It's kind of nice to think some future club member might be studying the trophy and suddenly find the model. And then the model inside the model.

[vejita613]

Nah, I figured he would still be building gunpla. I'm just saying I don't remember him building either of those two. It just felt out of no where. But, you're right, it is a nice gesture for future club members even if it is a bit random.

[MFauli]

That was a fun first episode. My hopes for this second seasons are that they focus on further exploring the themes of the first season and don´t just make it another tournament meet-up.

My biggest hope still is that we´ll get a direct connection to Reiji´s world at some point. With our real world-Gunpla champions entering the alternate world of Reiji´s to help him out. I guess that would be a crass change in tone, though, since suddenly there´d be real death involved.

As for cameos, I´m still hoping for Rinko´s return. But since we have her little brother here, I´m also looking to a 7 year old "riper" China-chan :>

[Kraco]

Episode 2 - HS (http://nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=609867)




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I don't know how this will turn out later, but for now it feels like this should have been the first season. Everything feels so much like on a smaller scale. These people don't seem nearly as grand, ambitious or innovative as Sei and Yuuki, and while Sekai is very similar to Reiji, he's no alien prince. The beginning is quite similar in some ways, but the opponents weren't really as worthy in this one, like the Mantis who was all talk. The setting is also smaller; a rustic shack in the backyard with a stunted battle system, intead of the big one in a gym we had in the second ep of the first season. By the third ep we already had Fellini in. Maybe the first season was too grand and this will be more down to Earth. In the end that might not be such a bad choice, although I still would very much like to see some cameos, other than Mr. Mustachio.

[MFauli]

All I care for is some hot h-doujins featuring Mr Ral and Hoshino coming out of this. :>

On a more serious note: I think we simply havent arrived at our plot drive, yet. At face value, we have a girl who wants to participate in the championship, and we have now two guys who will likely be her team mates. But what now? I really doubt it´ll be as straight forward was to simply plow through the championship matches. There´s gotta be more, and I´m sure of it.

[MFauli]

episode 3 is out
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i agree with kraco´s above sentiment. so far, this feels like it should have been season 1. since it is not, I fully expect some more fantastical reveal sooner rather than later. My favorite plot development would still be that our heroes somehow get to travel to Reiji´s dimension, where Gundams are real.

If not that, I guess we´ll see an enemy (team) that comes from Reiji´s dimension, thus giving us more details about the bigger picture. So I hope.

[Kraco]

This was a pretty decent warmup fight. Of course Try Fighters didn't really even need to try. It was all messed up, but the levels were so different they won rather easily nonetheless. Fumina really needs to get her shit together. She's sucking as a team leader and club captain at the moment. She can barely keep Sekai and Yuuma from each other's throats, when she instead should already realise their team has a pretty fantastic composition. Since she and Yuuma look up to Sei so much, you'd think they at least knew Reiji's forte was very simply punching the Plavsky particles out of the enemy Gundam. Of course Reiji excelled at pretty much everything piloting related, but especially the last fights kind of veered towards a boxing match. Sekai needs to learn to shoot at least tolerably, but otherwise Fumina can fill the versatile role whereas Yuuma can stick to sniping and support. Sekai would charge forward drawing attention and that's it. In short, Fumina is holding them back at the moment.

[vejita613]

You can't really blame her though. As far as we can tell, this is the first time she's even had the opportunity to be a leader. It's expected she will have a lot to learn. That being said, she really can handle herself quite well for using just a GM.

The only disappointment I had this episode was that we missed a golden opportunity for a Rumba Ral fight. Also, I am almost Rals age. What the hell am I doing with my life......

[Kraco]

The only disappointment I had this episode was that we missed a golden opportunity for a Rumba Ral fight. Also, I am almost Rals age. What the hell am I doing with my life......

It's like a running gag that he's missing opportunities and is forgotten in a millisecond when something more interesting appears. Also, there's no way that's his real age. Maybe that's when he made the model, 20 years earlier. He's at least 50 years old, or has some exotic aging disease.

[MFauli]

episode 4 is out
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i feel like this battle was the most awesome battle in all of gundam build fighters so far. wow, it was intense, not drawn out and had several twists. And a good ending, too, since it´d have been too clichee for a beginner like him to win against an expert. just super fun all around.

also, hoshino is too hot. seriously, how old is she supposed to be again? it feels kinda wrong :>

[Kraco]

They should have just kissed with the excused of amusing the children. No doubt they would have wanted to but were too embarrassed. But then again, Hoshino only cares for gunpla and Sekai for his martial arts and gunpla.

The Osaka dude had no manners whatsoever. The level really stays low during these early episodes. I hope this season will also go international before long and we will get opponents who look and seem strong like in the first season. Sekai also kind of needs a good tutor like Reiji got when he met Fellini in the underground bar. That taught him a lot and was inspiring enough to change Reiji's previously too superficial attitude. Mr. Mustachio simply can't fulfill such a role, even though he's not weak per se. But he's comic relief, through and through.

[MFauli]

episode 5 is out
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You know, in terms of epicness, the story is still rather flat compared to season 2. BUT! This has been another super awesome battle! I dont think season 1 had such great battles. Yuuma´s transformation, Hoshino´s surprise SD Gundam and Sekai´s running-in-space move ... everything about it was soooooo much fun to watch.

If they can keep battles this interesting and fun, I wouldn´t mind the lack of a greater, overarching plot.

Btw. was the opening song released yet?

[Kraco]

The first season had its share of interesting battles. However, the fights this season feel a bit more regular championship (preliminary) fights. Looking back at it now, it kind of feels Sei & Reiji never faced as much challenge and pressure to get to the top. Maybe the gunpla world simply is much more advanced and established now seven years later. Kind of like 100 years ago crazy stuff could happen in sports, but now the pro athletes and other sportsmen are only boringly competing for milliseconds and millimeters and thus anything deviating from a perfect, robotic performance would result in instantly and hopelessly losing.

While I like Fumina's sexy competition outfit (she has some guts to sport such in front of all those people, but she does have the body for it, alright), I didn't like the SD Gundam. SD is only ever used for comedic purposes in anime/manga, or to differentiate it from the real story, like using SD characters verbally and straightforwardly explain some story details that would be hard or too time consuming to have the story expose normally. There's absolutely no reason to have such a thing in the real fights, where it's not enforced (as I'm sure there are minor SD only tournaments). It's even worse the girl member of the team was given such a cute but less practical thing. Especially when Fumina wasn't a superficial person at all.

I like how Mirai just keeps rooting for a romance between Sekai and Fumina, and is disappointed when nothing happens, yet worried too much could happen. Such a nice big sister.

[Kraco]

Episode 6 - HS (http://nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=622552)





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How on Earth did Ral build such a fame despite being a comedian who never pulls through when things get serious? I guess if you talk loud enough, act high and mighty, yet still remain polite and friendly, some more gullible individuals will begin to think you must be a great man indeed.

The battle wasn't so bad, although surprisingly easy as soon as the opponent lost the total control. They couldn't do anything anymore in a direct confrontation. To a degree that's plausible since they won't ever be masters of their units if they switch them for every fight. Thus, they only have the plan and any plan Bs they happen to have. It's not such an idiot proof battle tactic, in the end. I'm surprised they were one of the audience favourites.

[vejita613]

How on Earth did Ral build such a fame despite being a comedian who never pulls through when things get serious? I guess if you talk loud enough, act high and mighty, yet still remain polite and friendly, some more gullible individuals will begin to think you must be a great man indeed.

He is a skilled fighter as we saw towards the end of the last season. The original Ral was one of Zeons top aces, giving grand daddy Gundam a run for its money.

Next week, finally time for some Destiny Gundam. Can't wait.

[Kraco]

Episode 7 - HS (http://nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=625055)





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That first fight... The rest weren't so bad. I didn't foresee the stooges using that tactic, possibly because it's so cowardly and immersion breaking, but I should have. After all, they were so lacking in honour and pride they even prostrated themselves and begged for the opponent to lose on purpose. It's obvious they didn't give a shit about gunpla fights or anything related, they were only serving the boxer dude in their own pitiful manner. Fortunately the boxer himself was a decent person. I have to say I'm a little disappointed in Fumina and Kousaka, but then again, they are just kids, so they are supposed to get easily confused. Sekai has a long background in martial arts, so I'd say he was pretty safe.

Fumina seems to be falling for Sekai, finally. Jolly good. She's kind of a genki girl, so I hope she won't keep it hidden for the whole series, but you never know. Sekai certainly is so dense I doubt he would initiate anything. There have been romances in all the Gundams I've seen, but looking at the first season of this particular show, it was really slow and light, maybe due to the main characters being so young. Yet the first season did have undeniable pairings, so the chances are high.

[vejita613]

I'm glad Destiny was in there, but man he did not use it to it's full potential. You had the wings of light man! You could've been blurring around the battlefield! Not that it probably would've mattered with Sekais martial arts and all, but still, WOL was the biggest thing I was looking forward too.

I do like the fact that straight builds were the highlight of this episode. I honestly don't care much for customized builds as I think the original designs are fine just the way they are.

[MFauli]

I reeeeally love all the fights of season 2 so far. Whoever is the director is a skilled man. Good stuff.

The swimming club team was a complete fail, though. I kept wondering "so what will they do on a battlefield without water?" Well, we found out about that :/

Hoshino is super hot. Season 1 introduced the hottest milf in all of anime. Now it 1ups itself with Hoshino. Dayum. Now if only we´d get a cute girl for Ral-san. I still think that it´d have been best if Iori-kun´s father had been dead and Ral got together with Rinko :>

[Kraco]

I do like the fact that straight builds were the highlight of this episode. I honestly don't care much for customized builds as I think the original designs are fine just the way they are.

I don't really care since I wouldn't know which is straight, which is customised. Thus I actually like custom models more since it shows innovation. I guess a straight one doesn't necessarily need to be an out of the box model, it could still be enhanced, but surely custom ones would serve that purpose better. With enhancements I mean multilayering material on shields, metal gun barrels, and other such details that make the model have fancy functionality or simply last longer in the Plavsky particle cloud.

[vejita613]

I guess I'm too much of a purist. I don't mind the occasional sticker or maybe even a slight modification, but some of those customized units rub me the wrong way sometimes.

[Kraco]

Episode 8 - HS (http://nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=627638)




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This really is a big downgrade after the first season, which I rewatched recently to refresh my memories. Like this episode that somehow seemed to assume anybody would give a shit about the annoying little sister of the first season's most annoying character. And even if you didn't give a shit (I doubt even 1% of the audience would), there still remains the completely inconceivable element that apparently Team Try truly believed that arrogant fool of a girl with her nameless sidekicks would beat the previous year's local champion. In general there's not a single opponent presented so far that I'd care about at all. That's a weakness the size of Olympus Mons compared to the first season, which was full of exciting opponents for Sei and Reiji to possibly face, right from the beginning, and more kept appearing throughout the show. In fact many of the other players were so developed that you could even care about their fights, not only about the main characters'.

Hard to believe this is made by the same people. Whatever happened to them between the seasons?

[MFauli]

episoe 9 is out
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another nice battle, although it wasnt as exciting as past ones. Im actually disappointed by the other martial arts guy. For all his "the Shigen Hao-school wont work on me", he really didnt put up that much of a fight.

Anyway, despite next week appearing to be a filler episode, things are destined to heat up with the arrival of the meijin from season 1.

[vejita613]

episoe 9 is out
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another nice battle, although it wasnt as exciting as past ones. Im actually disappointed by the other martial arts guy. For all his "the Shigen Hao-school wont work on me", he really didnt put up that much of a fight.

Agreed, he seemed to be all talk. I will give him credit, he put that one chick in her place when she started talking smack. Not that Gyanko didn't deserve it, but there's no need to rub salt in the wound. You won, that's all that you need.

I do look forward to next episode. I hope that Mirai shows her true colors as a martial arts master under the guise of a fashion model.

[Kraco]

At this local level, I don't think it's unreasonable believe that somebody who can only use melee combat in gunpla fights, which feature weapons of all sorts prominently, would fare poorly against a competent fighter with a decent and versatile gunpla. In fact I'd find it hard to place my bets of Sekai, especially at higher levels, like the national they will be facing next. While the grand duels before the disappearance of gunpla fights for a while, that is the tournament of the first season, very often ended in fist fights, it wasn't really like there would have been no other options and the fists would necessarily be the best way to go. Reiji also knew how to fight with weapons just fine, plus the fancy systems Sei invented. Sekai is really a one-technique wonder as far as Gundam is concerned.

This fight finally showed a glimpse of the kind of ingenuity the world championship of the first season treated us with time after all, when Sei and Mao needed to make their gunpla better and better. The club president of the opposing team used a gunpla from the same school that Mao was from, and the grand cannon was quite similar to Mao's. Sekai's Sei-built model also revealed the functionality of those small shields, curiously enough as if made for a melee fighter. But why not, if anybody could pull it off, it's Sei. It would be pretty sad if Sekai successfully fought with this same model from the beginning till the end, never changing anything. Not that he personally would have the wits and skills to alter it, but still.

[NeoCybercoin]

I am just hoping for cameo's of the first show. Not counting on Ral.

[fireheart]

I've been wondering, who repairs the Build Burning Gundam? I mean since it's most likely not Sei that's fixing it the overall quality and particle emission should be steadily declining for every time they have to fix something.

[vejita613]

I've been wondering, who repairs the Build Burning Gundam? I mean since it's most likely not Sei that's fixing it the overall quality and particle emission should be steadily declining for every time they have to fix something.

I've been wondering that for sometime myself. The only logical answer would be Yuuma since Sekai doesn't have the experience to fix something that is likely very complex. I wish they would show him actually doing it though.

[Kraco]

There hasn't probably been so much to fix so far considering the damage level isn't overly high during these local fights. But yeah, I imagine some maintenance should be done all the time, after all, plastic isn't overly tough intrinsically leading to material fatigue if nothing else. It's a pity the series is skipping it as if it didn't matter. So far even Fumina might have been able to take care of Burning Gundam, but from now on it would take an expert since the national level contests (and above) use a high damage level.

[vejita613]

Episode 10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRKGn0bk20)


I do look forward to next episode. I hope that Mirai shows her true colors as a martial arts master under the guise of a fashion model.

So, she may or may not be a master, but I'll still file this one under "called it". And for those that don't get the joke, she hit him right in the cock...pit. No but really though, most mobile suits have their cockpits located in the chest or sometimes their head. Turn A is the only one that I know of that has ever had the cockpit in the crotch. I think it was one of Tominos jokes.

Also, for someone that claims to love Gundam so much, that rock star didn't even use Turn A's Moonlight Butterfly. I guess he just wanted to show off. Still, a black Turn A actually looks pretty good. It's still an ugly design though.

[MFauli]

kinda offtopic: its extremely frustrating to keep witnessing how much hidden potential this anime has, but never seems to have plans to make use of it. Im talking about the plavsky particles and Reiji from season 1.
All of this gunpla toy fighting would be a nice, even great prologue to a much deeper, more complex, adventurous story. I always imagine how at some point now Reiji returns and says "I need your help!". And then he, older Iori, older Meijin and our new heroes travel through a dimensional rift to Reiji´s home dimension - where gunpla doesnt exist. But where freaking Gundams do exist! And then the real story begins, where fighting means living or dying. Huge interstellar wars betweens advanced cultures. A 52+ episode adventure, full of world exploration, a new level of fighting and a whole different atmosphere.

Instead it seems we´re forsaken to keep watching toy fights, only because that´s better for marketing the actual toys. sigh

[Kraco]

So, she may or may not be a master, but I'll still file this one under "called it".

I doubt she's a master. She obviously dropped the martial arts to go modelling, leaving the fighting arts for Sekai to inherit. I reckon she must still be doing plenty of physical exercises to keep her body suitable for modelling, so it's possible she's still repeating some familiar moves. It doesn't seem to me like her personality would be as good for martials arts as Sekai's anyway, and it also seems like Sekai's image of her sister might not be entirely correct. Probably he hasn't updated his image for years and remembers his big sister from back when he was very young and Mirai already seemed like an asskicker with the Jigen Haoh.

It didn't look too good about the Sekai+Fumina. He's denser than iridium and while Fumina was embarrassed, she hasn't really shown any romantic interests whatsoever during the show. At least her mom was immediately ready to pair her with Sekai. Seems like Gundam Build mothers are the best...

[vejita613]

kinda offtopic: its extremely frustrating to keep witnessing how much hidden potential this anime has, but never seems to have plans to make use of it. Im talking about the plavsky particles and Reiji from season 1.
All of this gunpla toy fighting would be a nice, even great prologue to a much deeper, more complex, adventurous story. I always imagine how at some point now Reiji returns and says "I need your help!". And then he, older Iori, older Meijin and our new heroes travel through a dimensional rift to Reiji´s home dimension - where gunpla doesnt exist. But where freaking Gundams do exist! And then the real story begins, where fighting means living or dying. Huge interstellar wars betweens advanced cultures. A 52+ episode adventure, full of world exploration, a new level of fighting and a whole different atmosphere.

Instead it seems we´re forsaken to keep watching toy fights, only because that´s better for marketing the actual toys. sigh

But then it wouldn't be "Gundam Build Fighters" anymore. You might as well watch a normal Gundam series at that point. GBF was never meant to be that serious, which is refreshing for a Gundam series. We can just sit back and watch a bunch of mobile suits that would normally never meet in any way, battle it at and destroy each other.


I doubt she's a master. She obviously dropped the martial arts to go modelling, leaving the fighting arts for Sekai to inherit.
I was thinking she had become so good at it, that she had mastered it at a young age and decided to do something else that either challenged her or just let her get in touch with her feminine side (or both). Either way, she is definitely not someone to mess with.


side note: So I guess Kirara did well for herself. I wonder where Fellini is?

[MFauli]

But then it wouldn't be "Gundam Build Fighters" anymore. You might as well watch a normal Gundam series at that point.

My favorite concept is "reality meets fantasy", so normal Gundam would be just fantasy and boring :/

[Kraco]

side note: So I guess Kirara did well for herself. I wonder where Fellini is?

Maybe she went to America because she wanted to be with Fellini. After all, Japanese idols aren't allowed to have relationships. They aren't even allowed to meet the opposite sex during their free time. Fellini, being Italian, wouldn't have had any of such nonsense.

[Kraco]

Episode 11 - HS




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Looks like the gunpla builders haven't been sitting on their hands for all these years after the first season. The academy student's ominous gunpla at least seemed to be further developed than the gunpla back then. Sekai's gunpla is many years old, so even if it was built by a master of a sort, it's still old and possibly lacks new advances that came after. I have no idea how Sekai is going to get a new one, though, or have this one updated sufficiently. To be entirely honest, Yuuma doesn't seem such a great builder especially after this. His gunpla suffered greatly already during the local fights, and now it's probably out of its league. Maybe he can build really shiny and detailed regular models and even customise them for a show, but can he build something that's specifically meant to win these fights where structural innovation and the extra functionality it brings matters more than good looks?

Fumina's SD model looks even more stupid next to the gunpla by these serious types. But then again, it's only meant to fall apart.

Finally I'm getting excited by their adversaries. About the time, after 10 eps of inconsequentiality.

[MFauli]

Finally getting truly good. Cant wait to see the inevitable return of Iori, too.

Though I dont get it. Why dont people just buy the Red Warrior-model? Sure, we´re always being told that these new opponents are just reeeeally strong, but so much of the strength comes from their gunpla.

[Kraco]

They'd need to buy the model from a pro gunpla customiser, probably for a good amount of money. A model straight out of a store shelf would be no good against these guys. During the first season we already saw that it took a good amount of customising experience, innovation, and imagination to make a model that would stand a chance. Despite having built models since before he could run, Iori needed a couple of eureka moments to make one that was barely sufficient. Meijin and Aila used models built by crack teams of engineers. Mao had a whole school of gunpla builders' accumulated experience behind him. Nils is a fricking genius and nuclear/quantum physicist or whatever.

[MFauli]

They could just go on the internet and download a manual for the perfect customization.

[fireheart]

They could just go on the internet and download a manual for the perfect customization.

You mean in the same way you could follow a perfect guide to building the strongest character in a PvP game, where in the end everyones still split on which is the most OP invincible and perfect build? Besides having a "perfect" customization that everyone else is using kinda goes against some parts of what makes these Gunpla unique. If you can build your very own mech and fight other mechs why would you want to follow a guide instead of making something personal? Besides if everyone builds the exact same customization it means whoever is the better builder will have the edge while if there's diversity you might have the edge even if you're not as great of a builder. An example would be China's Bearguy that despite being her first customized gunpla still beat a higher quality gunpla simply for being unique. And finally if everyone downloads and starts using the same customization a little while later there's bound to be people who start building counters for it.

[Kraco]

Yeah. I imagine people actually do read a few good tutorials at some point when they first start to customise, unless they have some older friends or relatives who will teach the same stuff. However, that's just the beginning. Just like you can read some tutorials when you begin to use a whole new computer program (like 3D modelling). But following tutorials only takes you so far, plus, like fireheart said, it's not really your custom model if it's made following tutorials, not your own imagination. Naturally a custom models isn't everything, either, since you'd actually need to be able to use it in combat with 100% efficiency. I doubt Sekai is even close to that yet with Iori's gunpla.

[MFauli]

Well, then you´re saying gunpla players care more about their machines being unique than them being strong. Which is unrealistic. And you could always take a Red Warrior-gunpla and start customizing that one yourself. We´re talking about MASSIVE fundamental differences in strength between the various gunpla-models we´ve seen so far! Why would you participate in a tournament, when your gunpla doesnt have anything special at all, while there are opponents that can absorb plavsky particles, or use them to use super attacks, or have extreme shields, or super speed, or, or, or? If I were to build a gunpla, I´d take a look at the gunpla of the champion and try to incorporate at least equally amazing features to mine, so I have options in battle.

I think we just have to admit that all of this is done for drama purposes, and that´s alright, I guess. The newest opponent needs to have the stronger, cooler looking gunpla. It´s a kid´s show after all.

[Kraco]

Yeah, it's for drama, but on the other hand you also need lots of simple combat experience with various kinds of opponents to get anywhere near the top. The gunpla alone won't do it, the player plays an equal role. Well, that's how it ought to be realistically, just like athletes need countless hours of practice, but naturally we then have the shounen heroes who only need their shounen power to conquer everything.

[Kraco]

Episode 12 - HS






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Kind of a covenient episode with Yuuma and Fumina both encountering big mofos who pratically forced them to accept some insight and high level practice. That was some main character luck +10 stuff. But who was the girl Sekai found? Competition for Fumina? At least even the single-minded, hot-headed Sekai paused for a moment when he saw her.

Stopping the fight was bullshit, as it would have been a jolly good thing to see, but I guess such fights are reserved for closer to the end of the show. Regardless Sekai being all happy finding seriously tough opponents was nice, and a nice contrast as well to Yuuma's loser attitude.

[Buffalobiian]

Kind of a covenient episode with Yuuma and Fumina both encountering big mofos who pratically forced them to accept some insight and high level practice. That was some main character luck +10 stuff. But who was the girl Sekai found? Competition for Fumina? At least even the single-minded, hot-headed Sekai paused for a moment when he saw her.

During Sekai's fight against the black, evil gundam the dude said that Sekai's techniques were similar to another person's on his team. So far Sekai's been the best at martial arts (besides the boxer), so he could meet someone more experienced there as well.

I marathoned all of this just now and it's pretty fun. The transition between Try and the original series was tough but I'm over it now. I came into Try expecting Aila and Reiji to make babies. The lack thereof was sorely disappointing. At least Fumina makes up for most of it.

As for the whole "why don't people copy other builds", I think secrecy and skill comes into it. People can figure out you're using Plavasky-absorbing paint, but you're not exactly going to tell them what it is. That goes for the "special abilities" that gundams have. Their base stats actually depend on how well they are built, which comes down to the time and technique put into them.

[Kraco]

I came into Try expecting Aila and Reiji to make babies.

When I saw the new girl, a thought visited my mind she could be some older version of Reiji & Aila's child, using fancy Aria technology, or that there would simply be a time difference between the worlds. But who knows. My thoughts are coloured by the fact I also really wanted to see Aila & Reiji again.

[Kraco]

Episode 13 - HS




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Now we are talking! This show is getting good. The fools who don't take their opponents seriously are getting what their deserved and the others are revving up to over 9000. Though I'm not certain how they are going to rebuild the gunpla to survive a technique the master builder Iori's model couldn't take. But maybe the materials have developed since the time years ago when Iori built Burning Gundam.

I'm a little disappointed the new girl had absolutely nothing to do with Reiji and Aila. I don't know why she had a design like that when she was a total unrelated stranger, after all. Feels like trolling. But then again, it would have been quite hard to make her related with only a 7 years interval between the shows. At least I can keep hoping we might see Reiji, Aila & a cute little daughter appear before the end...

[Buffalobiian]

Though I'm not certain how they are going to rebuild the gunpla to survive a technique the master builder Iori's model couldn't take. But maybe the materials have developed since the time years ago when Iori built Burning Gundam.

I agree. However, what this means is that somehow Sekai's been able to go over the limit of gunpla when no other person has been shown to before. Even the Shia was able to tune Build Burning better than what Iori did.

I loved the whole sun rising and arms burning thing.




I'm a little disappointed the new girl had absolutely nothing to do with Reiji and Aila. I don't know why she had a design like that when she was a total unrelated stranger, after all. Feels like trolling. But then again, it would have been quite hard to make her related with only a 7 years interval between the shows. At least I can keep hoping we might see Reiji, Aila & a cute little daughter appear before the end...

Shia is their daugher spiritually. Or just a cute little Aila who didn't grow up starving.

[Kraco]

Episode 14 - HS



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That Lucas fellow is weird. He looks quite big and buff, almost like a jock, but then he opened his mouth and has a voice of a little boy, by a female voice actor. What the hell? The Wilfrid+Shia pair is enough Europe for me (surely they have a dad or mom from Europe, or something) if that's how it's going to be. Also, surely Nemesis wasn't his real last name?

It's not easy for Fumina: Sekai seems to be a girl magnet, so she'll be soon defaulting on a jealous mode, and will get nothing productive done. Sekai is kind of dense and cares for nothing but martial arts and gunpla, but on the other hand Fumina does have a killer body, so if she can get over the idea of dating a younger man, she should push things forward a bit.

[fireheart]

Also, surely Nemesis wasn't his real last name?

I think it's the grandchild of the owner of Team Nemesis or whatever they were called, the one Aila told to start playing gunpla himself if he want to win.

Edit: I don't really remember but I think Aila proved herself to the owner of Team Nemesis by beating their ace with a Jeagan which explains the childish sentiment in picking it

[vejita613]

I think it's the grandchild of the owner of Team Nemesis or whatever they were called, the one Aila told to start playing gunpla himself if he want to win.

Edit: I don't really remember but I think Aila proved herself to the owner of Team Nemesis by beating their ace with a Jeagan which explains the childish sentiment in picking it

It would appear so. It was this post (http://gundamplanet.tumblr.com/post/108116881104/crossbonegundam-remember-this-kid-grandson-of) that reminded me of that kid. I wonder if he has a gunpla similar to Ailas'.

Also, Fuminos' jealous faces are the biggest draw of the show for me and I sincerely hope they never stop. Keep being dense Sekai.

[shinta|hikari]

Is this a good story? I'm thinking of starting from season one if it is. I avoided this because it seemed to be for kids. Is it?

[Buffalobiian]

I quite like it. It's more like a sports anime.

[Kraco]

Is this a good story? I'm thinking of starting from season one if it is. I avoided this because it seemed to be for kids. Is it?

I was originally thinking the same, but once I started watching the season one as it aired, it was genuinely good, no two ways about it. Unfortunately the second season seems to be weaker, but if you watch the first first (and obviously you would), then it's enough to keep you watching the second as well. It's not like there wouldn't be anything good about this second, it just feels so much smaller and insignificant in comparison, at least so far.

[MFauli]

absolutely disagree.

im enjoying season 2 much, much more than season 1. The first season had a few good battles, but most of them ended too quickly and/or in a too constructed/artificial manner. Season 2 has yet to have a single weak battle. I guess what some people ciriticize s2 for is the lack of the supernatural elements from s1. But outside of that, it´s one big improvement.

Generally speaking, though, GBF doesnt feature a complex, overly original story. It´s in the presentation and setting. If those appeal to you, go for it.

[Kraco]

im enjoying season 2 much, much more than season 1. The first season had a few good battles, but most of them ended too quickly and/or in a too constructed/artificial manner. Season 2 has yet to have a single weak battle. I guess what some people ciriticize s2 for is the lack of the supernatural elements from s1. But outside of that, it´s one big improvement.

Lack of supernatural? The whole game system is purely supernatural. The first season seemed to have some quantum space communication a la most Gundam shows, but this time we already have Sekai somehow linking his own body to the game, so it's not that different and nothing says he won't be talking via telepathy either before the end.

My problem is that the battles before the last few eps were unexciting. I couldn't give a damn about them, and there were no promising opponents being foreshadowed or anything. The first season had a different feeling being international and quite soon we were already looking at real mofos from all over the world, and the main characters themselves were preparing to fight them from the very beginning. Now we watched the MCs getting ready to fight another club from the same school, the neighbouring school, the schools from the same city, the schools from neighbouring cities... Blah. It's like trying to get excited over watching local sports teams of some foreign country playing against each other. Who could care less when you'd really be interested in the world championship?

I admit I wouldn't mind if the meaningful fights, when they finally arrive for this season, would indeed end in a proper manner instead of the kinds we saw too often in the season one. But the settings for the fights in the first season were better.

[MFauli]

i dont care one bit about the prestige of battles. s2 battles are super fun to watch even when it´s just between regional schools or even classmates. presentation has improved vastly over s1. What good is the battle Iori/Reiji vs Fellini, when the on-screen action is ass-boring? In s2, even the short random-battle between Sekai and the eastern building-progidy, using chibi-gundams, managed to be exciting from beginning to end.

national, international, it doesnt matter. the presentation is what makes it fun. that´s why im having infinitely more fun with s2.

[Buffalobiian]

The characters in S1 felt more charismatic and likable. That's the main drive for me. The mechs also felt more amazing and high level until recently.

[Kraco]

The characters in S1 felt more charismatic and likable. That's the main drive for me. The mechs also felt more amazing and high level until recently.

Yeah. I have already forgotten most of the players in the second season before the high level bunch they just met. The players and the gunpla. Because there's absolutely nothing to remember there. However, like Bill said, the players and oft the gunpla of the first season were really memorable.

Besides, this season tries to rely on prestige just as much. All the schools try to tout themselves as the ultimate gunpla players and builders, and people keep saying "there's no way they could win against those / how on Earth did that school lose?". Except that it's nothing but random names. We got very little background or actual faces to build that artificial hype, so it's all meaningless. Only now, after the newest arc, we have a bunch of people who might be worth their plastic.

[shinta|hikari]

Judging from how you guys are debating about this, I'll give this a try after I finish my latest VN.

[MFauli]

s1 opponents had more build-up, maybe. but i watch this anime for the mech battles and thats where s2 is far superior, even from the first episode on. s1 was like waiting for THE fight to happen, wheres s2 somehow manages to have every single battle be exciting. And now that we´re entering a phase where big names join that, i guess you guys will be happy, too :P

[Kraco]

Episode 15 - HS





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A good episode. Things really started rolling now that the championship started and we got rid of the oft low level local qualifying matches. I wonder if it was really necessary for Sekai to go so all out right from the beginning. He's a one technique wonder so it could be he had no choice, although it's pitiful is he still has zilch ranged ability. But considering how they dominated the match, Fumina might have pulled it off without using even as much as she did. Fortunately it looks like Yuuma kept his head cool, as expected, and showed pretty much nothing, save high basic performance.

I'm looking forward to seeing Shia's game. She's obviously the Aila of this season, though with a far more agreeable personality. But then again, she isn't an orphan from the streets and tortured by a mad scientist for who knows how long.

[shinta|hikari]

Is there romance in S2? S1 had one, right?

[Kraco]

Is there romance in S2? S1 had one, right?

S1 had a bunch, in fact. S2 hasn't so far had anything too solid. Just some one-sided infatuation. But there's still time, and I bet something will happen.

[shinta|hikari]

Cool. I've downloaded it, but will take a while to catch up.

[vejita613]

Is this a good story? I'm thinking of starting from season one if it is. I avoided this because it seemed to be for kids. Is it?

I would give you my opinion, but I'm a bit biased as I am a Gundam fan. Watching mobile suits fighting against each other that would otherwise never have even met in battle is such a treat for me that everything else is second place. Plus, I used to do a lot of Gunpla building back in the day (and I still have a few kits I need to work on), but I'm not nearly as good as they are in the show. That being said, as you can tell, even non-Gundam fans can watch the show and enjoy it.


Episode 15 - HS

A good episode. Things really started rolling now that the championship started and we got rid of the oft low level local qualifying matches. I wonder if it was really necessary for Sekai to go so all out right from the beginning. He's a one technique wonder so it could be he had no choice, although it's pitiful is he still has zilch ranged ability.

I thought that was weird too. My first thought was that his opponents will see it and plan around it like they did Sei. But then again, it didn't work all that well for them either.

Also, I want to call B.S. on Lightning Gundam keeping up with a feakin Trans-Am Kyrios, but I guess I keep forgetting that Plavsky Particles work on a whole other level. It still irritates me though.

[Kraco]

Also, I want to call B.S. on Lightning Gundam keeping up with a feakin Trans-Am Kyrios...

Not necessarily. Back at the training camp we saw that even the very carefully built original Lightning by the famous artistic builder Yuuma was in fact very poor ability wise compared to the models the big mofos use. Sure, Meijin could still use it (against Yuuma), but he's Meijin, so he probably could have fought with a fricking Bearguy and win. So, it's possible that no matter how good a model this dude thought he had, it simply wasn't nearly good enough (his built of the model, that is) at that level. The local qualifiers aren't necessarily equally tough everywhere, so he might have mistakenly thought he has a good gunpla. After the enlightening training camp Sekai, Yuuma, and Fumina know much better what's the real level near the top.

[Buffalobiian]

s1 opponents had more build-up, maybe. but i watch this anime for the mech battles and thats where s2 is far superior, even from the first episode on. s1 was like waiting for THE fight to happen, wheres s2 somehow manages to have every single battle be exciting. And now that we´re entering a phase where big names join that, i guess you guys will be happy, too :P

Not just build-up, but likeability. Mao was leaps and bounds better than this sour Shingyo School guy. Sei was much more likeable and honest compared to our Grand prix winner who ran from losing. Sometimes I also find myself getting tired of hearing Jigen Haoh Ryuu.

Today's battle was fun to watch. That Burning gundam's always a treat. I don't think it really matters if Sekai shows the opponent his moves since he overwhelms them with power rather than surprise anyway. He's not one to keep things secret either so that all doesn't really matter. Victory Winning was a bit of a disappointment having only funnels and shuriken.

I haven't noticed them fighting in formation until now though, perhaps that will lead to something. Or maybe not, given that it turns into 1v1 anyway.

[NeoCybercoin]

I am so hoping an opponent will just crush Try Burning while Kamiki is trying to shout out his attacks.

[MFauli]

Lol, this was the first bad battle of s2 and I see people praising it :D ery boring throw-away battle, against a crappy no-name team that somehow got best 8 last year. Gotta be a shitty year lol.

Im somewhat glad that our team went all out from the start. That makes it harder to keep doing the same in future battles. The biggest revelation her shoud be that Sekai´s gundam can withstand the pheonix attack now.

[Kraco]

Episode 16 - HS




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I'm exceptionally happy Shia's gunpla wasn't SD but a stylish and elegant skater instead, fitting her looks and personality. I don't like those at all in serious fights. It's enough Fumina, the newtype trio, and even Lady use one (though that's still unknown for this event). I'm also happy her gunpla and fighting style are different from Aila's, well, in fact all she has in common are the looks, kind of, the mystery, and some intuitive sense of the particle behavior, I'd guess.

Fumina really needs to worry, though, since Shia seems genuinely interested in Sekai. After the latest display of his super technique, I don't wonder why. He's quite mysteriously pulling something like that out of the gunpla. There are also other, more mundane factors: Unlike the tomboy Fumina, Shia is small and cute, which ought to make a martial artist like Sekai want to protect her instinctively. Furthermore, it seems to me her mystery does intrigue him, as dense as he usually is. Normally I'm quite set from early on what comes to pairings in anime, but quite honest I wouldn't mind if Sekai went for Shia instead of Fumina. Although that being said, I don't know how realistic that would be since they are both middle school age (I assume Shia is as well) and likely live far apart. That alone would prevent anything from happening.

[Buffalobiian]

Shia's good and all, but this is better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpx7uNpRMFk

[MFauli]

Didnt like this battle. Fuck off, arrogant gunpla gakkuen! :|

But I have no idea how this rivalry between Fumina and Shia is supposed to work out. Shia´s gunpla is absolutely uber, whereas Fumina is ... weak. Lol, i cannot even come up with a better word for it.

Anyway, right now the power forces are too obvious. There Gunpla Gakkuen, that Nemesis-boy and our heroes, who have, well, hero-bonus. I dont feel like Yuuma´s rival from Kansai has any real chance against those three. Even less that other participants. There´s those triplets, but eh, they´re to one-dimensional.

I´d prefer to have one real underdog defeat one of those above (except for our heroes), but I don´t see it.

Regarding the relationship talk: Shia is best girl, cause "Cute" will always beat "Hot", sorry, Fumina. But I don´t see Sekai going for Shia, not happening.

[Kraco]

I dont feel like Yuuma´s rival from Kansai has any real chance against those three. Even less that other participants.

I can't help but view the Kansai dude as some kind of a joke character, this episode with the animals freak show only making it more obvious. Like a jester he will kick vigorously against nameless opponents, but I'd expect him to lose in a grand fashion against somebody serious. Especially since the two other members of his team are nonames who didn't even think they would make it to the national level.

I wonder if the winner of the championship gets a chance to fight Meijin and the Lady. Although there're only two of them and the fights are 3 vs 3.

[vejita613]

Shia's good and all, but this is better.


Sounds like something from Naruto tbh. I still love GBF second OP.




I wonder if the winner of the championship gets a chance to fight Meijin and the Lady. Although there're only two of them and the fights are 3 vs 3.

And then Sei suddenly shows up. Or Reiji. How crazy would that be?

Realistically though, I'm pretty sure Meijin and Lady can handle most of the teams by themselves.

[Kraco]

And then Sei suddenly shows up. Or Reiji. How crazy would that be?

Since it's three members teams, I'm hoping Reiji + Sei + Aila will suddenly show up at the end as a super combo out of the blue.

[MFauli]

And when Sei and Reiji and Aila show up, Sei is all like: "Sorry that we´re late. We were busy helping the liberation front in this parallel dimension of Reiji´s. Now, let´s see what this new gunpla champion is made of!"

PLEASE SET YOU GP BASE!

:>

[Kraco]

Episode 18 - HS




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That ended pretty much as expected. When three, small ninja types combine to form one big, impossible to miss opponent, things won't ever end well for them. At least they had a little time for morality lessons and must have fun preaching. I'm glad we got rid of those newtype triplets so soon. They were annoying.

I wonder why they had to make this Junya senpai so absolutely despicable, even to the point of hiring lowlifes to do his dirty work for him. It never builds any expectations whatsoever of the real battle prowess, so nobody's going to get excited about the gunpla fight, which really matters. Kind of like gunplas getting sabotaged before the fight by the idol in S1. Without that dirty trick, she was nothing to write blogs about. In any case this is like straight from Karate Kid or something, with the opponent being a full-blown criminal.

[MFauli]

This anime is so fantastic, and season 2 is so infinitely more exciting than season 1 :o

I loved everything about this episode. If I had one wish, I´d have liked it that when Sekai´s arm was hurt due to assimilation and nocebo-effect (is that a real term? I guess there is something like an anti-placebo effect, but is it called nocebo? Nocere is latin and means "to hurt/damage", so why not), blood should have been spilled. Would have made it even more dramatic and serious.

Im sorry for repeating myself, but with fantastic episodes like this one, I cant help but fantastize once again about all this potential for an epic adventure anime. If I were to write a draft for the next 150 epidodes, it would begin with Iori Sekai meeting our current three heroes. After winning the tournament, the Meijin and Iori reveal to them that the reason for this assimilation effect is that the whole Plavsky particle-system is not just some energy source, but a connection to another dimension. The Plavsky particles connect player and gunpla as if it were real, because in that other dimension it IS real. So what does this mean? Iori explains that his dear friend Reiji sent him a very distressed message, asking for help. Iori is returning to Japan, because Meijin and the Gunpla Academy finally figured out a way to stabilize Plavsky particles in a way such to open a gate towards Reiji´s dimension. They only needed one more piece of material that Iori got from the scientists at CERN. Putting together the final parts of the Plavsky-gate, they´re ready for their journey. Iori and Meijin go by themselves, leaving Sekai and co. back as their reinforcements, in case of something going wrong. Of course thats whats happening. So our new heroes have to follow into the other dimension. By using reverse-assimilation and a newly introduced effect called "Plavsky mirroring", the gunplas of their players are turned into real Gundam machines in that other dimension. From there, Sekai, Yuuma and Hoshino have to explore this vast, unknown and very dangerous galaxy of Reiji´s. Their first goal: Re-establishing contact with Iori and the Meijin.

Bamm!

So.Much.Potential.

And it will never happen :(

[Buffalobiian]

^ 370 words, and not one mention of "Ripper China-chan". I'm disappointed MFauli. I came here expecting you to talk all about her.

As for Nocebo, I'm glad it's just some damage to his arm. It synchronises you so you feel damage and pain, but please don't make it so it actually cuts you or causes physical damage. Think of it as a placebo effect where you're role-playing your gunpla so hard that you physically feel pain even though you didn't take damage in real life. You shouldn't physically bleed though. That'd mean the only way to save Sekai would be to replace his gunpla ala Escaflowne.

I entertained the idea that the master of Jigen Haoh Style could be Reiji himself, but that's not too likely.

Also, as far as I know Plavasky particles exist in Reiji's realm. Gundams however, do not.

[Harima Kenji]

The Jigen Haoh Ryu master hás to be a Domon Kasshu lookalike from G-Gundam. In the first opening they pretty much show his shadowy form.

[vejita613]

The Jigen Haoh Ryu master hás to be a Domon Kasshu lookalike from G-Gundam. In the first opening they pretty much show his shadowy form.

I forgot about that. I remember thinking it might've been his sister back when they were younger. Would be nice if he showed up with God Gundam. BTW Kenji, long time no see.

Only thing I wanted to point out last episode is that I was a bit surprised that we got the early reveal of Star Winnings Real Mode. But I am glad Fumino got the final kill. Plus I like to believe that Winning Beam is a homage to Buster Beam.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm a bit pissed that there's no mass conservation in these transformations. The dragon was larger than the 3 SDs put together, and Real Mode was larger than the SD parts used to create it. The particles amplify the model's properties and reflects how well they were built, but to grow material out of nowhere is kind of stupid.

[MFauli]

Yeah, I wondered about that. What are the limitations of these transformations? How do you even "build" them when creating your gunpla? It just seems too bs, like, summoning WHATEVER YOU WANT out of thin air.

[Harima Kenji]

Some subtle references in episode 19:

- The boxing moves Junya pulls off are from Hajime no Ippo, especially the Dempsey Roll.
- Inose Junya is voiced by the same seiyuu as Allelujah Haptism from 00 Gundam, and his teammate pilots the Gundam Abulhool, Kyrios' predecessor.

[Kraco]

This is an annoying fight as far as I'm concerned. Not only is it cliched, but it feels unneeded when the really interesting big shots are so near. If we learn more about the master and he's someone meaningful (like Reiji), then I'll turn my coat. Besides, a nasty opponent is a nasty opponent, and Junya is one. I don't even look forward to seeing him defeated. I just don't care.

[vejita613]

Some subtle references in episode 19:

- Inose Junya is voiced by the same seiyuu as Allelujah Haptism from 00 Gundam, and his teammate pilots the Gundam Abulhool, Kyrios' predecessor.

I thought he sounded familiar.



This is an annoying fight as far as I'm concerned. Not only is it cliched, but it feels unneeded when the really interesting big shots are so near. If we learn more about the master and he's someone meaningful (like Reiji), then I'll turn my coat. Besides, a nasty opponent is a nasty opponent, and Junya is one. I don't even look forward to seeing him defeated. I just don't care.

Agreed, although their fight does have a nice G Gundam feel; Denial vs Build Burning and Master vs God. Also, I doubt "Shishou" will be Reiji, especially considering his silhouette doesn't look like him. But, if it's Domon (Tomokazu as VA), then THAT would be super interesting. I mean, they brought back Rain last season, I don't see why they couldn't do this.

[Buffalobiian]

"If you don't understand, ask with your fist". <- oh the lulz.



Regarding the relationship talk: Shia is best girl, cause "Cute" will always beat "Hot", sorry, Fumina. But I don´t see Sekai going for Shia, not happening.



But Shia could do with a little meat. Her "shrugging shoulders" look (though it might just be her jacket)makes it seem like she's got a postural problem from muscle imbalance actually. A colleague of mine has that (forward rolling shoulders) and it's pretty obvious, as well as being visually undesirable. Shia's cute enough that I can dismiss it mostly, but it's there.

I agree that Hoshino's hot, but her contours also seem artificial. Those boobs come out of nowhere. Mirai's got it right, even if I enjoy watching the other two more as far as characters are concerned.

The "gang rescue" scene was both pleasing and disappointing - pleasing because Sekai wasn't artificially handicapped by having his parts stolen, but disappointing because it was kind of Deus Ex in how everyone just happened to be there (Hoshino speedial?). Sekai should have at least kicked the gang's asses. The thanks-giving scene with Yuuma would have been much more effective had Yuuma been beaten up a little more, followed by Sekai physically intervening.

[Kraco]

Sekai should have at least kicked the gang's asses. The thanks-giving scene with Yuuma would have been much more effective had Yuuma been beaten up a little more, followed by Sekai physically intervening.

Oh, right. Now I realise one more reason why this ep felt so unsatisfying. I was looking forward to Sekai kicking those lowlifes' asses. Although the explanation why he couldn't was convincing. The sport itself is kind of very violent despite being marketed for all ages, so it makes sense the company would try to keep the outside of the ring totally free of any disturbances to avoid losing parents' support.

[vejita613]

EP 20:

Dat Full Cloth. Shame the actual build is pretty sub par.

Sekais final attack looked strangely similar to a certain "God Finger". I was waiting for those familiar lines....

Also, apparently those SD Gundams could combine into that dragon/hydra thing. (http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2015/01/sdbf-sdg-gundam-announced.html) Too bad it's not nearly as impressive irl.

[Kraco]

As expected, Sekai's fight against Junya was meaningless, with absolutely no (positive/interesting) revelations about the Jigen Haoh school or the master. The technique he discovered was also pretty weird (as was evident from the whole audience's expressions) and honestly feels more like something that was only useful in that specific fight, under those specific circumstances, but who knows.

Nemesis and his gunpla seemed promising, as stupid as his name is and as annoying as the female VA for such a character is. Let's hope he will push the Academy to give 110% performance. Although honestly the buildup feels far less thrilling than in season 1. But I suppose that can't be helped since in S1 we had the whole long development between Aila and Reiji outside of the arena and also the inhuman methods of Team Nemesis. So, when they finally met in a gunpla fight, it was something else. Even if the final end of the fight, when Aila wasn't controlled by the system anymore, was highly disappointing. Now this Nemesis fellow is just another tough gunpla fighter among many.

[Buffalobiian]

I loved that they explicitly mentioned 12K recording. Keeping it real is important.

[MFauli]

Fantastic episode, once again.

Old complaint: So this Nemesis-guy is sooo strong and all. Well, his gunpla seems to be simply that much stronger than anybody else´s. Why do the other contestants not build the same, stronger models? Why do they not build such energy shields? Sigh.

On another note:
I mean, I´m not positive thinking enough to actually believe it, but ... they were dropping some heavy hints at my dream scenario as posted above. First, Kawaguchi made this somewhat weird comment, saying "the gundam moves as long as the fighter can control it ... but also the fighter controls for as long as the gundam moves", as if there´s "something" coming from the gunpla-side to Sekai. And then that actually happens. Sekai is beaten, about to give up ... and the gunpla starts interacting with Sekai! LAter on Sekai then says "it was as if the Try Burning was talking to me", and then tries to force the topic to something else. Hm. :>

Again, Im not hopeful enough to begin expecting anything developing in that direction, but ... that potential. Damn.

[Buffalobiian]

Old complaint: So this Nemesis-guy is sooo strong and all. Well, his gunpla seems to be simply that much stronger than anybody else´s. Why do the other contestants not build the same, stronger models? Why do they not build such energy shields? Sigh.


So this Coca-Cola thing seems to be simply that much more successful than anybody else's. Why do the other companies not make the same, tastier colas?

It's called R&D and secrecy. It's the same reason Sei had the only RG system, Samurai Boy had the only particle-splitting system.

[MFauli]

So this Coca-Cola thing seems to be simply that much more successful than anybody else's. Why do the other companies not make the same, tastier colas?

It's called R&D and secrecy. It's the same reason Sei had the only RG system, Samurai Boy had the only particle-splitting system.

That would be a sound argument, IF not for the fact that everybody seems to perfectly know about these systems whenever they appear during battle.

If you want to argue the effecieny of a certain model/feature, then that surely can be attributed to the builder´s skills. But the complete lack of even trying to incorporate such features? Makes no sense. If I were a gundam fighter, Id chose the strongest model, build it to my best skills and train with it.

[Buffalobiian]

All of these models are customised. There's no "strongest" model that someone would know about. Someone can look at a model and understand what it's doing (It's collecting particles inside its body). That doesn't mean they can build something like that. Some of the more experienced builders understand better (like Mao knowing that Sei made the shield stronger by using layered plastic).

On the other hand, there are plenty of cases where they don't know how a builder accomplishes certain traits: no one knew in the past how Sei stored particles inside his mech. No one knew how Mao could fire multiple times without the moon. No one knew the composition of Samurai Boy's particle-deflecting coating.

When they do know how to copy a system, they must take into account opportunity cost - including something means they can't include another. A simplified example would be dual-wielding vs sword/shield. You choose on or the other. Someone might decide to put a shield on the forearm to combine both traits, but then you decrease dexterity of both.

[MFauli]

When they do know how to copy a system, they must take into account opportunity cost - including something means they can't include another. A simplified example would be dual-wielding vs sword/shield. You choose on or the other. Someone might decide to put a shield on the forearm to combine both traits, but then you decrease dexterity of both.

And yet usually the stronger fighters have the best offense, defense and agility. :/

[Buffalobiian]

And yet usually the stronger fighters have the best offense, defense and agility. :/

Correct. You have to choose what works for you and your mech. But what you can't do, is slap everything together like Troyard's mech in Aldnoah Zero. That's the picture I'm getting from you: "7 champions have these 7 features - I'm going to add them all to my build".

[Kraco]

That would be a sound argument, IF not for the fact that everybody seems to perfectly know about these systems whenever they appear during battle.

They all have watched enough Gundam shows over the years to have seen it all. The rest is up to imagination. That they can name systems and techniques doesn't mean they necessarily know how they were achieved. In fact I kind of doubt great many gunpla builders know it themselves. It must be at least half trial and error. Use some fancy material/coating, then see how the game board (Plavsky particles) react to it. Of course over time you'd start to learn enough to be able to predict a little and connect some dots. Especially if you have a whole research team working on it, like Nemesis or Kawaguchi has, for example. Although it's a different thing to operate a gunpla and build it. You could be a master operator without knowing anything about building or theory, as long as you were sharp enough to recognize your own gunpla's potential as well as the enemy's. Reiji was like that, and Sekai is now. Aila might have become an exceptional builder, not only an operator, because she could see the particles. She would have immediately seen with her own eyes if some material was promising.

[Kraco]

Epsiode 21 - HS





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It's true that the strategy Nemesis used was idiotic, but still it's like this show isn't even trying to be exciting anymore. 3-0 victory against the European champion? Why would these folks be looking forward to the open championship anymore, if the European champion was a total loser who couldn't take down even a single enemy gunpla? Nemesis got extremely poor hype beforehand, compared to the first season, but still they did attempt to portray him like some big mofo of gunpla. But in reality he couldn't defeat a single named opponent. The poor strategy didn't really explain it either since he wasn't facing opponents 1 vs 3 all the time. He had enough 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 (or 1 vs 1.5) encounters. It's as plain as a cash cow that not a single Academy fighter could lose before the finals because of plot shield. That's just how they script writers decided when planning this whole story, no matter if it's for good or for ill. Bullshit. Nemesis was a totally unnecessary character in this season if this is it.

[vejita613]

Honestly, for 3 vs 1, he put up a good fight. He even critically damaged Shia, although he should've finished the job. But, he relied too much on his own abilities instead of working as a team. My biggest problem this episode (which seems to be an old problem) was why the hell wasn't team try watching the damn match? I mean I guess they could be recording to watch later while repairing their gunpla but if it were me and there was so much at stake, I would be watching just to get an idea of what to expect.

Also, is it me or does it seem like Fuminas boobs keep getting bigger each episode? Seriously.

[Kraco]

It's pretty funny how Wilfrid kept wondering for the whole duration of the fight how Nemesis could have stored so much particles in the gunpla (although it didn't even seem to me he would have used any really fancy techniques burning through them, but whatever), yet at the end Wilfried himself used a technique that made the whole arena glow like a shine kamehameha. Of course without any need to refuel like Nemesis was doing all the time. So, that whole refueling thing, that is, the Champion Strategy, was purely for nothing at all.

If the final fights are like this, it's only good if Fumina's boobs keep growing. At least something's getting better towards the end... This second season is so much worse than the first that it's not even funny. I admit Fumina is a lot hotter than China, but on the other hand this season has no Aila. Shia was left pretty meaningless in the end.

[Buffalobiian]

Also, is it me or does it seem like Fuminas boobs keep getting bigger each episode? Seriously.

Nah, overall they've been pretty stable and moderate. It's just that the animation this episode was a bit inconsistent in that regard. At 3:46 they seem massive, and at 23:32 they sit a lot lower than her usual sports-bra, extremely perky level. Did she leave the apartment in such a hurry as to not properly dress? I don't know. I'd rather say the animators screwed up.

@Kraco: the Crossbone's suit was operating at a much higher level than the other team's in terms of speed alone. I think he did rather well. G-Portent was essentially destroyed and The End was critically hit. He only really lost against Wilfred.

I quite liked this episode with its highlight being Crossbone moving like a rogue. The particle idea certainly wasn't bad. It's actually particles-well-spent. Imagine playing counterstrike where you can give money to your top fragger whenever he needs it. Not only that, but you then give your support mechs particle compressors as well - essentially giving you more particles than the other team (while making assumptions) while giving you more bang for your buck at the same time.

[Kraco]

I think he did rather well. G-Portent was essentially destroyed and The End was critically hit. He only really lost against Wilfred.

His team lost 0-3. It's meaningless to say "essentially destroyed" or "critically hit". Those would be nothing but moans of a loser (which he fortunately won't utter since he obviously loves playing the game more than winning). If his team had lost 2-3 then I wouldn't be here complaining. Destroying the other two and then losing against Wilfred would have been jolly good. But no, the Academy team's plot shield is too heavy.

[NeoCybercoin]

Dude seriously overestimated his abilities. Tactic itself worked for a while until they just...ya know...chased him. If his teammates were actually skillful it would have been better. But no, he had to go all alone. Way to introduce an OP character only to toss him aside after one battle.

[MFauli]

Wtf. Wost hype character ever@Nemesis. He ... sucked. He didnt have any real special moves, and he´d have been even weaker without the extra particle supply. What a letdown.

Next week will be extremely predictable.

And Im not sure about the finale. I guess theyre rivals, but it still doesnt feel like a proper showdown for our heroes. Actually, I cant see this boring battle happening, so Im predicting that there will be some sort of twist. Maybe Kijima gets hurt and the Meijin replaces him? Something like that.


This second season is so much worse than the first that it's not even funny..

youre full of shit. Second season is infinitely better than the first. One or two dumb battles wont change that fact.

[Kraco]

Episode 22 - HS





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He's uses are otherwise so few that you'd think Mustachio had at least forced those three to come up with some tactics if not whole strategies for a fight. I don't see how Team Try is supposed to beat the much stronger opponent Academy if this is their level of planning and thinking. The moment their overly naive plan didn't work in this fight, they were rendered totally helpless and inactive. As if a team making it to the semifinals would leave the moment of fusion totally defenceless and open for exploitation. That also demonstrates Ral's uselessness quite fittingly: Even though it was worth trying, it was still more likely than not that it wouldn't work like some magic trick. Ral should have told them that and adviced them to rather plan on it not working, instead of sitting still dumbfounded when it doesn't. It should have been an extra shot from the beginning.

I guess their best bet is the fact the Academy team itself is basically a group of very prideful individuals, so it's kind of unlikely they would stick to team tactics instead of separate fights. So, Team Try can stick to that as well. It should suit Sekai at least much better. Yuuma has lots of wits so he could adapt to anything and Fumina naturally is all about helping others. Yuuma aside, Fumina actually wants to develop herself as an individual fighter, so it would serve her well to fight her love rival 1vs1...

I couldn't get excited about this fight either. The main fight should at least deliver, based on the participants.

With 25 eps, that is, 3 eps left, we might still have time for some nice cameos. Although I'm not really expecting them anymore.

[MFauli]

Surpsringly exciting end for this fight. I couldnt really get excited for the fact that, of course, our heroes would win this fight. And the goofy Sakai never felt like a threat, anyway. But the music made this fight. There were two fantastic songs that I dont think had been used before,. And the ending with just Sakai and Yuma fighting it out was great.

What sucked, though: When Sakai´s team mates convinced him to fight instead of keeping a distance for a sure victory. Lol. It felt as if they were telling him "dude, it´s okay to lose". :D

[Kraco]

It felt as if they were telling him "dude, it´s okay to lose". :D

It felt like that because that's what they did. Initially he thought to avoid fighting at that point anymore and get the default win because that would have ensured his team mates would fight in the final match against Academy. So, he would have sacrificed his own wish to fight Yuuma for the sake of those two (or three since the guy he replaced is still in the cheer squad). However, they told him that he's free to chase his own ideal ending as well, even if it meant they wouldn't necessarily advance to the finals automatically.

[Harima Kenji]

The fight looked cool, but if you think about it, it was rather predictable.
I would've much rather have seen that Fumino and Sekai let Yuuma fight alone, like Sekai did before. The sacrifices of their suits were not needed and the 'let's base our our plan on disrupting their gattai' was kind of weak, as mentioned above. I was expecting that they would start out combined.
Them staying very close to eachother, conveniently in the blast radius was poorly done too. One of them should've shot the arm that Sekai was stopping to destroy it or at least force him to retract the arm.
But since this was a typical rival fight, you could guess that this is how it would go.

I half expected the Tryon to whip out a hammer, since the whole suit is based on GaoGaiGar.
As a fan of the GaoGaiGar series, I found it funny that Sakai's way of shouting out attacks is an imitation of Guy. In fact, the whole suit amuses me.

I do agree with Sakai that interrupting a gattai-sequence is pure blasphemy.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 23 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=667362)


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http://i.imgur.com/DrRz1xf.jpg

4 cups + sweets.

Realistically it's probably

1. Iori Sei
2. China
3. Maoh
4. Fellini

But I'm sure it's not just me who's hoping it's

1. Sei
2. China
3. Reiji
4. Aila

[vejita613]

But I'm sure it's not just me who's hoping it's

1. Sei
2. China
3. Reiji
4. Aila

You are not, and good catch.

[Kraco]

But I'm sure it's not just me who's hoping it's

1. Sei
2. China
3. Reiji
4. Aila

Yeah, but perhaps they were just cups set for the departed, for remembrance and a wish for their return. Especially since, as far as Iori and China would know, they aren't even dead, just sorely missed. I, for one, would be kind of unimpressed if Reiji of all people would be satisfied with watching the match from a small screen drinking tea. I'd only accept it if there was also a glass of soda for Reiji & Aila's child! I reckon that would tone down even Reiji.

Not a bad episode. It increased my anticipation.

[MFauli]

Really excited to find out about Yuuma´s re-modellings.

Also lol @ Jun beating Sekai unconscious.

[vejita613]

EP 24

I like the fact that they combined the three gunplas into one, but it seems wasted on OVERPOWEREDPUNCHOFDOOM at this point. I mean, I guess I should've expected it, and the amount of damage was impressive, but...meh.

Also, seriously Sei, you looking waaaaay too much like your mom at this point. Kinda creepy. Glad we got to see you, but kinda creepy.

[Kraco]

but it seems wasted on OVERPOWEREDPUNCHOFDOOM at this point. I mean, I guess I should've expected it, and the amount of damage was impressive, but...meh.

Yeah, I agree. However, the first battle in and around the colony is really impressive, probably the best in show so far. I especially liked how Adou and Yuuma got so much into it that they resembled some old enemies of many clashes from a real Gundam show. Enemies for life but also with deep respect for the other's skills. Sekai himself is kind of an empty vessel who simply enjoys any matches and the developing himself. Fumino still feels like a support character for those two, and kind of really stereotypically soft and feminine, but that's okay. Shia is more interesting, though, with her mysterious atmosphere and how she so carefreely and willingly approach and helped Sekai. That's like the highest degree of dedication to the game, by making your opponent stronger so that you can enjoy the game more yourself. It could feel cheap and unrealistic, but it didn't for her, at least not in my opinion, but maybe that's because I thought she could rival Fumina as a love interest...

Looks like the three tea cups may remain the only sign of the cameos I was looking forward to for the duration of the whole show. The last ep seems to be sort of Yuuma's own mini arc. Although if that tournament is less structured (free participation without multiple preliminary rounds, or perhaps free tickets in), then who knows. It could be amusing if the old gang appeared there, but I wouldn't bet anything on it anymore. It's just a single episode anyway, so there's only so much it can contain.

[Buffalobiian]

Also, seriously Sei, you looking waaaaay too much like your mom at this point. Kinda creepy. Glad we got to see you, but kinda creepy.

Someone's confused

[vejita613]

Fumino still feels like a support character for those two, and kind of really stereotypically soft and feminine, but that's okay. Shia is more interesting, though, with her mysterious atmosphere and how she so carefreely and willingly approach and helped Sekai. That's like the highest degree of dedication to the game, by making your opponent stronger so that you can enjoy the game more yourself. It could feel cheap and unrealistic, but it didn't for her, at least not in my opinion, but maybe that's because I thought she could rival Fumina as a love interest...

Yeah, they never really resolved their feud, did they?


Someone's confused

Apparently? I'd have you explain then.

[Buffalobiian]

Apparently? I'd have you explain then.
Your little bro wants up. You think that's not right. You call Sei creepy because he's confusing you.


The battle itself felt fragmented, as if they forced each individual fight to be "individual" a bit. From the dialogue I was expecting Wilfred to go with strick 1v1 and was thus terribly surprised when the suits still helped their own teammates.

The biggest problem with Try so far is that Fumina has always been mediocre in her fighting and building skills. For us to be told that she's a match for Kijima Shia is rather unbelievable. What does Lady even see in her?

[Kraco]

The biggest problem with Try so far is that Fumina has always been mediocre in her fighting and building skills. For us to be told that she's a match for Kijima Shia is rather unbelievable. What does Lady even see in her?

There was no Aila under control in this season, so the general level of female players was rather lower. Although they weren't playing at the international level anyway, yet, despite Nemesis fooling around there. It also seemed to me Shia was really concentrating on defense and repair towards the end of this tournament, whereas Fumina was trying to boost her own attack capability all the time, to get rid of her pure support role.

Perhaps the Lady only saw that Fumina is really serious about gunpla and also does possess genuine skills, even if she was hardly phenomenal at anything during this season. In fact no female was, not even during the first season because in the end Aila wasn't playing the game because she wanted to, but because she didn't want to return to poverty and homelessness. She also wasn't that tough without the painful equipment. The Lady wanted to support any really serious female players, I'd say.

[MFauli]

awesome battle. lol, just what super special effect would follow the next? :D
I guess my favorite moment was when Yuuma and Fumina were inside the colony and asking each other "what would we say right now if this was Gundam?" So nice. And really playing with me heart here, since, ya know, what IF Gundam was real in some parallel universe of Reiji´s or so .... :P:P:P
Aaanyway!
So about this final episode ... final for the season or final for Gundam Build Fighters ALL? I really want a third season, and I really want to see Yori, Kawaguchi and co. fight it out again. Of course, ideally my Id love to see m fanfic come true, but even if not for that, I want more GBF. Show us the world level! Show us 1 on 1 battles! And show us Sekai getting lucky and making Shia his gf!

Cant wait for the release of the soundtrack, lots of reeeeeally good, pulse-wrecking tracks.

[Buffalobiian]

Cant wait for the release of the soundtrack, lots of reeeeeally good, pulse-wrecking tracks.

Soundtrack 2 is out.

Link (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=search&cats=3_0&filter=0&term=gundam)

[shinta|hikari]

I just finished the first season. It was okay. I liked two things. One, the romance parts. Two, the waki. It's pretty impressive when most of the main female characters are wearing sleeveless clothes all the time. The only bad thing about those two items is they were not explicit enough.

So the questions are, does the second season have good doses of both and are they more explicit?

[Buffalobiian]

Little romance. Didn't notice increased waki (but you may)

Fumina is portrayed much more explicitly though.

HS - Episode 25 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=672676)

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The fights! Oh, they were so good. The HS torrent was so choppy that it was half ruined, but it was still glorious. Too bad their Master was Domon and wasn't Reiji, but that explains everything.

[shinta|hikari]

So no final pairings? This is over, right?

[Kraco]

This open for all last battle was quite goofy, but Sekai having a private training camp with Shia was a nice surprise. That surely pissed off Fumina, which didn't escape Shia's notice. It's all the better Shia kind of handles Sekai better than Fumina, who's clearly annoyed by his density. It's kind of hard to believe Shia would go through all that trouble (since Sekai is kind of full of trouble) if she wasn't interested at all and was just playing around to kill time.

Super Fumina was super creepy. It's sad Yuuma's old rival only amounts to that much now. Yuuma should forget the sorry chap and look higher. But that's actually how it looked like towards the end.


So no final pairings? This is over, right?

Nothing final in that sense. There weren't even really any pairings to begin with since it was one-sided with all the possible interests. Or actually there were one or two pairings with side characters of no major importance. Nothing like Fellini or Mao of S1, that is. Who knows if this is over. I wouldn't mind a third season if it finally brought the cameos I was waiting for in vain throughout this season.

[Harima Kenji]

I read something about a Try Fighters OVA being in the works. No idea if it is an April fools joke or no, though.
I really hope they will put another season in for Try Fighters. The story isn't done yet.
The final episode was weird, and didn't really do the series justice. I'm not hating it, but it could've been more.

[shinta|hikari]

@Kraco/Buff - I might forgo this until I have more free time then.

[vejita613]

Too bad their Master was Domon and wasn't Reiji, but that explains everything.

Nah, it was too obvious that it was Domon. The real shame is that he didn't have a speaking part. Better yet, it's a shame he didn't get into the final Gunpla battle with his God Gundam. THAT would've been epic.



The final episode was weird, and didn't really do the series justice. I'm not hating it, but it could've been more.Agreed, although the battle royal was pretty entertaining. It could have used more cameos though.

Also, I hope that OVA rumor is true. I have to see Iori vs Seikai.

[MFauli]

Super fun final episode. Honestly, I enjoyed this mass battle more than the actual final battle in the previous episode, which was more special effects than anything else.

There were so many good moments here, incredibly. Kraco, calling Super Fumina creepy is uncalled for, come on! I´d liked to have seen more of their fight, since Super Fumina appeared to be extraordinarily agile. Could have been more interesting than expected.

Clear best moment: Kawaguchi Meijin VS Ral. Omg! I remember Ral doing something in season 1, too, when he found out about some manipulation during a battle. But this was the first time we see Ral being badass for real. Fantastic. If only Rinko saw him, maybe it´d raise his chances :>

Also gotta say, Yuuma´s new gunpla with this black transformation thing looked really cool.

The one thing that sucked: Still no Yori Sei! We REALLY need a third season for that reason alone.

[Kraco]

ANN is also referring to OVAs (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-01/gundam-build-fighters-twitter-account-ova-projects-to-launch/.86623), one for Build and one for Build Try based on that article. Of course, like Harima Kenji said, the date doesn't increase credibility, but let's hope it wasn't a joke. If the S1 gets a separate OVA, I'd say chances of seeing Reiji and Aila would be high indeed!

[NeoCybercoin]

Best part of the ep was the all out brawl and Lt. Ral going all out. Bout time he lived up to his name since everyone seems to respect him greatly when it comes to Gunpla Battles.

[shinta|hikari]

The final episode was great. It reminds the audience not to take the series too seriously. All matches end with up as shouting matches, and the loudest one gets the win, after all.

I like how they clarified the love quadrangle, but Sekai needs to choose someone. I like Shia's design, but that's about it. She's too hollow as a character. We don't even know why she likes him. She took an interest in his gunpla, which he didn't even build, first and foremost. Her attraction just feels abrupt and forced. On the other hand, Fumi-chan is not only more developed (in more ways than one, but that's a negative for me) as a character, she's very funny. Shia is also way too wrapped up, if you know what I mean.

All in all, Try is a much better series than the first one. I think a lot of the comparisons wherein Try is deemed as inferior is mostly due to nostalgia. I watched them back to back and as an anime series, Try is technically superior. It had better pacing, hotter battles, and overall nicer effects. The team battle factor also makes it strategically more interesting (though in the end they keep shouting to win). One thing the first series did much better was waki exposure (Aila ftw). So I guess if I count that, it's pretty much a tie.

The pseudo-seed effect of Sekai's Jigen Haou style is very bad ass.

[Buffalobiian]

I found mech design to be superior in the first season. Off the top of my head the only mechs in Try that I find noteworthy are Burning and Crossbone Full Cloth.

Shia being a hollow character is a very good example of where Try falls short. Pretty much all characters were memorable in some way in S1, but there are too many in Try to develop them all meaningfully.

I watched these back to back, but I marathonned the first one and I guess that's always better.

[Buffalobiian]

Just found this...

http://i.imgur.com/5Y47W0Y.jpg

[Harima Kenji]

I doubt it's the same person. Didn't Nils say that she was his wife and working (CEO?) at the Yajima labs?
I don't see a reason why and how she would become Lady Kawaguchi.
And if I recall, she never built her own gunpla, but used one given to her by Nils

[Kraco]

Yeah, the top person is the toy maker princess, whose dad's company took over the arena manufacturing after the Arian criminal's original company obviously collapsed. The bottom one is Fumina's inspiration and idol. Dunno if she's Meijin's girlfriend, though, or if it's merely a meaningless title. But at least Meijin didn't have a love interest in the first season that I can remember, so who knows. He's a good guy, unlike some of the earlier Meijins.

[NeoCybercoin]

First episode of the new season is out!
Glad they are continuing on that plot from the first season.

[Kraco]

Do you mean the Island Wars? Isn't it just a single episode special?

Gundam Build Fighters Try: Island Wars


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Regardless, it was both bad and good. The bad thing was that it went for the crazy, meaningless plot instead of normal gunpla matches, the good thing was what was happening with the characters. Although I suppose it's subjective, but I didn't like the grand battles versus berserk gunpla acting on their own. I only liked the matches. That was the weakness of the first season, which was otherwise far superior to the second season. Naturally it made me happy that the best characters of the first season are living happily and even have a child. Although I thought it condescending how the kid was so happy with the badass looking Gundam she stole, but then they made her build the bloody Bearguy thing afterwards, as if all girls automatically only want cute but useless things instead of real tools. Leave it to the patriarchal Japan to still present such sentiments.

[MFauli]

The current Gundam Build Fighter Re-Rise 8s, unfortunately, the worst season of the Build Fighters-series :(

There's two reasons.

The lesser: People are all fucking psychos and the show never explains why this is supposed to be ok. Talking to your gundam, being super depressed, feeling love etc.. - IT'S A VIDEO GAME FFS.

The big reason: We are currently LITERALLY watching the anime-form of a Let's Play-video. There's zero human conflict so far, no competition or anything. The heroes aka players are simply following a coop-quest and its storyline. Zero significance in any way.

Now, there's ome thing that bothers me about the latter, too: On one hand it's all a game, a mission, you either succeed or fail. But then the anime makes it seem like the furry-npcs are actually conscious beings. We even see scenes where no player is involved - why would we even see a scene that the players can't see? But no effort is made to explain this and we're already 6 episodes in.

Sigh

I'm a big fan of the Build Fighters series, but while last season has been disappointing, this one is a bonafide failure :(

[MFauli]

Episode 12:

Wow. It only took 12 episodes until some excitement. I'm actually looking forward to episode 13 ...

[Kraco]

You are quite a champion to keep watching the later seasons. The second season already convinced me I don't need to see more.