Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA

[Ryllharu]

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Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA


Description: Tohsaka Rin and Luviagelita Edelfelt are magi from the Clock Tower, the headquarters of the Mage's Association, and they were sent by its director to collect Class Cards, each holding the powers of a Servant from the Holy Grail War. To aid in their quest, they were handed two powerful magic wands, Rin receiving Magical Ruby and Luvia taking Magical Sapphire.

However, due to the two girls' inability to get along, the wands got fed up with them and broke their contract. Ruby then sought a new master, and found one in an unsuspecting school girl by the name of Illyasviel von Einzbern. Despite Illya's protests, Ruby insisted in making a magical girl out of her, and she is now Prisma Illya. With no knowledge in magecraft and no previous training of her own, being in fact a completely normal young girl with no outstanding abilities, now she must collect the powerful Class Cards using whatever limited aid Rin can give her.

Genres: Magical Girl, Comedy, Fantasy

Links: AniDB (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=9042), ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=15245), Official (http://anime.prisma-illya.jp/)

Episodes:
01 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=452461), 02 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=454884), 03 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=457346), 04 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=459659), 05[eyecancer quality] (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=460021)


F.A.Q.

Why Should I Watch This?
Because Fate/Zero made you depressed, even though it was awesome.

Illya is a magical girl? That's dumb.
You're dumb, shut up and watch this. Illya makes the best reaction faces.

The image you posted is a spoiler!
No it isn't. Episode 2 - 3:18

Why is Shirou her brother now? That makes no sense.
Uhh...he's adopted. Don't worry about it too much.

Why is Ruby so annoying?
She's meant to be that way. She's voiced by the same VA who does Kohaku in Carnival Phantasm and the Melty Blood games. Her previous VA is voicing Rin these days. Ruby is basically Kohaku's evil witch gag-personality, Magical Amber.

If Irisviel is still her mother, who are the two in the house? One of them acts like her mother.
Leysritt (Liz) has the short curly hair. Sella has the longer hair. They were Illya's maids in Fate/Stay Night. Trust me, they're there, though you might not recognize (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=1939) them (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=1934) from their appearances here.

Why is this post so long and stupid?
Because no one else would make the thread. [edit 2: Especially Kraco]

Is there fanservice?
Not really, but if you're a pedo, I guess so. Have some Leysritt instead.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2446/zq47.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img829/5825/a8sq.jpg)

[shinta|hikari]

This show is full of fan service.

[Ryllharu]

Less than even the average magical girl show. I stand by the statements in the FAQ.

[shinta|hikari]

No, I was making a joke about me being a pedo... forget it.

Seriously guys, watch this. This actually makes fun of a lot of magical girl show archetypes without going overboard like others (Nyaruko, which is still funny nonetheless). It has a good balance between making a joke of itself and trying to deliver a plot (albeit basic).

[Y]

I watched 2 episodes of Fate Zero and it was pretty funny. I'm posting in this thread to say that this show has one of the dumbest fucking names of all time.

[shinta|hikari]

I agree, but I think that it is intentional.

[David75]

I don't know if everyone got to watch it so spoilers...






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It was hard til... Dark Saber

/post

[Archangel]

Shirou looks like a faggot, what the hell?

[shinta|hikari]

They just matched his face to his personality.

[Kraco]

Poor Ilya was always drawing the short straw in the FSN, so this show was desperately needed. Especially after FZ where we saw how awesome her mother was. I'm not all too sure about the backgrounds in this show, though. The round and moe character design makes everybody look even younger, but since Shirou is still a high schooler, Rin must have transferred to London before graduating high school first. Perhaps because there's no grail war to wait for? And because Shirou looks even more like a doofus, so he would certainly be no reason to stick around for.

Well, this show isn't about those crones and geezers anyway.

Ilya makes one of the funniest magical girls, there's no doubt of that (even if I'm a lousy judge since I haven't exactly watched that many magical girl shows). After four episodes I'm very happy with this.

[David75]

I was only waiting for Saber. And this has been painful till now.
Greatest gripe goes againts Illya's voice that lacks life or something. I do not like how she's voiced . I guess I prefered the slight tsun and playful tones she has always had till that show.
But it's not like I liked Illya that much.
As I said, Saber all the way :D

[Ryllharu]

I'm not all too sure about the backgrounds in this show, though. The round and moe character design makes everybody look even younger, but since Shirou is still a high schooler, Rin must have transferred to London before graduating high school first. Perhaps because there's no grail war to wait for? And because Shirou looks even more like a doofus, so he would certainly be no reason to stick around for.

Well, this show isn't about those crones and geezers anyway.
Isn't that an issue then? Shirou is still a high schooler, Rin is still basically the same age too, but went to the Clock Tower early.

If those things are still the same, doesn't that mean that Illya is still older than the both of them?
:confused:

(Illya is 8 at the beginning of the Fate/Zero Grail War, 10 years pass before Shirou/Rin are high school age.)

[Kraco]

Isn't that an issue then? Shirou is still a high schooler, Rin is still basically the same age too, but went to the Clock Tower early.

If those things are still the same, doesn't that mean that Illya is still older than the both of them?
:confused:

(Illya is 8 at the beginning of the Fate/Zero Grail War, 10 years pass before Shirou/Rin are high school age.)

I don't actually remember if it has been said how old / grade she is. But I certainly do get the vibes that she's younger than Shirou/Rin. Like a middle schooler. I guess they made such an alteration (she always looked younger, anyway, having been stunted). However, I don't see any particular reason why Shirou/Rin would have changed their relative ages. Considering we haven't even seen Shirou since the few scenes in the beginning, I don't think it matters at all in the bigger picture. I was merely wondering about the familiar background characters, ignoring their irrelevance.

[Ryllharu]

I assumed she was in the later years of elementary school based on their apperance, where they are in the building (upper floors) and art and simple cooking class, but if they are doing volumetric geometry problems...I don't know wtf topics Japan teaches when.

Poor Taiga.

edit:

It is cited as elementary school. Taiga bemoans that they don't do such advanced cooking in elementary school, but that might be a mistranslation because I've seen middle school called out elsewhere.

edit 2:

Taiga says Shogakkou, so it is Elementary School. Which makes the one of Ilya's friends, the yaoi art girl, that much more disturbing.

[David75]

[UTW]_Fate_Kaleid_Liner_Prisma_Ilya_-_06v0_[396p][5BB8A565].mkv (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=462028)

Heavy eye candy ep, if you truly want to enjoy it, wait for a better encode. Really.


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That said, it successfully incorporated some of the best actions/part of the FSN franchise.
You might not like the magical girl parts, but at least it delivers some action and special effects.
I'm a little sad we might not get more Saber though, unless there's some twist with the dark mask brealing and Illya activating Shiro's Hero form reality marble.

[NeoCybercoin]

I thought Archer couldn't trace Excalibur. At least thats what he said in Unlimited Blade Works.

[David75]

I thought Archer couldn't trace Excalibur. At least thats what he said in Unlimited Blade Works.

Since this is an alternate setting, they can "adapt" some details.
Morevover, we're talking about Illya, who isn't your typical girl. At least she should'nt be.
She has some powers/designs Shiro never had. So they can always use that as an explanation.

[Ryllharu]

I assume the lock breaking means that Ilya has regained access to her full powers. I thought of it this way: The kaleidostick generates near-infinite prana at the cost of being obnoxious and humiliating its user. Ilya, by her nature, has near-infinite prana.

So she effectively doubled in power once she reunites with Ruby. As it stands, she turned herself into a self-sustaining servant for a few minutes.

She also doubled her cuteness having her hair up in the bun.


edit:
Also a little creeped out by Sapphire digging through the ground and stone to get to Miyu. It was very Virgo from Fairy Tail behavior.

[NeoCybercoin]

Wonder how much of a tough time they will have against a certain Bersercar.

[Ryllharu]

Not too hard. They'd have to install a Gil-Archer card and let the Bersercar blow itself up with its cannon.

Or just have Miyu use the Rider card and run away. The Bersercar is pretty slow after all. Ilya could just fly upward I imagine, since the bersercar has a fixed cannon. Rin and Luvia would probably get blown up, but they are very resistant to falls and explosions in this series it seems.

[Kraco]

Ilya performed so well as Archer because it's her dear onii-chan's heroic spirit...

This ep sure had plenty of good action scenes. Miyu is starting to get left behind, though. She really needs to get her act together.

[Ryllharu]

[HorribleSubs] Fate Kaleid Prisma Ilya - 08 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=466004)



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What a delightfully vulgar episode. Ilya's true self reveals itself! Ruby is also worse than ever. Poor Miyu, she doesn't deserve this abuse.

[David75]

I think Miyu deserves it, and even likes it.
And then the end of the ep rubs it the wrong way.

[Kraco]

Aren't they running through the servant classes pretty fast? There's only Berserker left now, right? But then again, this is only 10 eps long, so maybe the pace is correct as there appeared complications once again in the relationship between Ilya and Miyu. Maybe Miyu will get her ass kicked by Berserker, trying to defeat him alone, and she must make up with Ilya for the final battle.

[David75]

Miyu was unfair to Ilya.
After all, as clever as she is portrayed, she was not able to see her friend/comrade had been hit with a poison blade. Even Rin was not able to think quickly enough.
Miyu could always say that it was Ilya's fault for not being able to guard herself from the blade, but Miyu did fail before and Ilya helped her.
In the end, everyone else left Ilya alone in a deadlock where she was about to lose her life. Or at least she clearly believed that would happen. Then a self preservation mechanism created that explosion to wipe everything around so that she survives. Of course that might have killed the others. But they had abandonned her to die by then, so they can't be all that mean again after the fact. Unless they really don't care about her.

[Ryllharu]

I felt like Miyu was less angry that Ilya was struck by a blade when her guard was down, and more angry about the fact that Ilya has zero control over her new strength now that her own prana has awakened or whatever. Ilya is a huge risk to fight with if she will seemingly randomly lose control and nuke the surrounding area. Just as bad, when she installed Archer, Ilya was rather berserk and probably wouldn't concern herself too much with allies' safety.

Miyu could have been nicer about it, but her concerns are valid ones. Ilya is so strong now that she nearly killed the three of them just by letting go. Miyu's guard couldn't even block all of it. They were rushing in to save her, and literally in a blink of an eye, Ilya's power exploded.

Look at Miyu's face as Ilya is flying away. She regretting the tone she used right away.

[Kraco]

Concerning their magical girl style, Miyu is all about logic and control, Ilya is all about images and fantasy, so it's quite understandable Miyu would time after time find it hard to accept Ilya as her fighting partner. In accordance with what Ryll said, I think Miyu also wanted to remove Ilya from the fighting for Ilya's own sake (fearing Ilya would be a danger to her own life as well, not just the others'). It's quite a wornout cliche, but they are little girls, so it would be fitting. Not to mention Miyu is socially awkward even during her best moments.

[shinta|hikari]

It might just be my cynicism but I felt that part of the reason Miyu acted like that was because of jealousy towards her obviously superior ally. Illya might suck at control right now, but that is only right now.

[Kraco]

It's true she has been jealous from the moment Ilya could immediately fly without even trying and being able to turn into a mini-Archer probably didn't help. However, I'd like to think it wasn't that envy which make her push Ilya away, although it definitely added colour her harsh words. But if it was the main reason, it would make her not only evil but also foolish. Neither really sits well with my image of her. As I perceive her as the emotionally stunted and intelligent type, I will trust she had a valid reason. Acting out of a petty feeling primarely would remove her logical mindset completely.

[Yukimura]

I got jealousy vibes off of Miyu during her speech as well, though I think they were probably well under the surface for her. On the top layer I agree with Ryll that she has valid points about the problems Illya presents to team combat, however the obvious 'logical' solution to having an undisciplined powder keg of raw talent as a partner is not to throw them away but to help train them to control themselves and be more wary. Especially when it's been made clear in the last two fights that Miyu can't get the job done on her own while Illya can get it done with no sweat when she cuts loose, though she lacks control when operating at the necessary level to get cards. Unfortunately, Miyu doesn't seem to want to admit that she's totally outclassed by both Illya and the latest cards, so a Gilgamesh beat down is probably going to be necessary to give her a wakeup call.

[Ryllharu]

... the obvious 'logical' solution to having an undisciplined powder keg of raw talent as a partner is not to throw them away but to help train them to control themselves and be more wary. Especially when it's been made clear in the last two fights that Miyu can't get the job done on her own while Illya can get it done with no sweat when she cuts loose, though she lacks control when operating at the necessary level to get cards.
I'm not so sure about that. Miyu strikes me as an overly self-reliant character. It was a struggle for her to even accept Ilya's (admittedly useless) training on how to fly. She's living with Luvia in the mansion, but she's earning her keep by playing elementary school maid.

I don't know that Miyu's logical reaction would be to train Ilya. Efficiency would dictate that she cut ties and keep her out of the way. Then again, now that they are friends, evidently Miyu's first friend, there is certainly the possibility that she's trying to protect her, but being too harsh about it like Kraco suggested.

[Kraco]

Miyu is so socially inept that I very much doubt trying to train Ilya would even visit her mind. It doesn't probably help her master is the uber ojousama character, who ought to possess an air of self-reliance. But if she was hanging between two choices, there likely was enough muddy feelings inside of her to tip the scales toward the choice we saw.

[Yukimura]

Yeah, Miyu is a very crappy friend, she's probably never had a friend before I can understand her behavior, but still, I don't like bad friends. I look forward to seeing Berserker or someone beat some humility and appreciation for other people into her. There doesn't seem to be any mature force in the show that could guide both wayward magical girls towards strengthening the respective weaknesses in their characters so they're going to have to learn to get along since they cover each others flaws so well.

[Kraco]

There doesn't seem to be any mature force in the show that could guide both wayward magical girls towards strengthening the respective weaknesses in their characters so they're going to have to learn to get along since they cover each others flaws so well.

Haha, yeah. They have such splendid examples of more mature magical girls in Rin and Luvia: Those two spend 90% of time warring so fiercely with each other that even the staves left them. Who knows, Miyu, being so overserious, might have interpreted the relationship between those two so that magical girls are always meant to compete with each other aggressively, never cooperate and be friends unless their very lives are in danger.

[Ryllharu]

Maybe Leysritt will school Miyu in the art of Taking it Really Easy but Still Getting the Work Done (with a concentration in laundry). They're her mentor maids after all, even if Sella has been slacking off.

Anime has taught me that if Miyu is too harsh, it really means that she's too kind hearted, bawwwh. Luvia took her in when she had nowhere to go, so she undoubtedly has a tragic past!

[Kraco]

Episode 8 - UTW (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=468784)




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I hope Miyu really gets her ass kicked by Berserker and needs to crawl to Ilya to beg for help. After the previous episode I was fooling myself thinking Miyu might have been worried about Ilya, but it's now clear she in fact detests her. I guess it won't end up like that and instead Ilya will run to help Miyu of her own volition, maybe after receiving a heart-warming, if airheaded, lecture from her milf of a mother (blessed be this series to have her appear at last). But nevertheless Miyu needs to get some of her blood spilled to drop her down from her high horse.

I got a feeling Shirou isn't 100% compatible with the maids... Just the fact he has a cooking duty despite there being two maids serving such a small family in an ordinary sized house reveals he doesn't know how to deal with them.

[shinta|hikari]

Shirou likes to cook.

I hate Shirou, but wakatta.

[Ryllharu]

I got a feeling Shirou isn't 100% compatible with the maids... Just the fact he has a cooking duty despite there being two maids serving such a small family in an ordinary sized house reveals he doesn't know how to deal with them.

Don't you remember the first episode? Sella is really pissed that Shirou does the housework when it is her and Liz's sworn sacred duty to perform all the work, not that Liz does any of it unless she's in the mood.

Sella let it go and allowed Shirou to do the cooking today without fuss because Ilya was depressed.

[Kraco]

Don't you remember the first episode? Sella is really pissed that Shirou does the housework when it is her and Liz's sworn sacred duty to perform all the work, not that Liz does any of it unless she's in the mood.

Sella let it go and allowed Shirou to do the cooking today without fuss because Ilya was depressed.

There's a slight difference between Sella complaining to Shirou that he does too much and now Shirou mentioning it's his turn this time to cook food. I think the normal situation would be the maids having solid turns to make food and the masters of the house only preparing dinner irregularly whenever it happens to strike their fancy (if they have such hobbies). Well, of course we are talking about Shirou here, so I reckon he might actually feel bad for the maids (even though they are doing their fricking job) and thinking he must let them rest sometimes. That would be just like Shirou who always believes he knows what's best for everyone.

[Ryllharu]

I dunno how someone would feel bad for Leysritt. She's on the couch 90% of the time, and only does the laundry (presumably on commercial breaks).

She's still highly skilled though. No matter how hostile Sella got, she countered her easily. Perhaps she is always on standby, an elite guardian!

[Kraco]

I dunno how someone would feel bad for Leysritt. She's on the couch 90% of the time, and only does the laundry (presumably on commercial breaks).

She's just following the slacker theory. Sella is eager to do the work initiatively, so Leysritt's role is to slack. After all, there's only so much you can do in a little house and with a meddlesome person like Shirou around to boot.

[Buffalobiian]

I hope Miyu really gets her ass kicked by Berserker and needs to crawl to Ilya to beg for help. After the previous episode I was fooling myself thinking Miyu might have been worried about Ilya, but it's now clear she in fact detests her. I guess it won't end up like that and instead Ilya will run to help Miyu of her own volition, maybe after receiving a heart-warming, if airheaded, lecture from her milf of a mother (blessed be this series to have her appear at last). But nevertheless Miyu needs to get some of her blood spilled to drop her down from her high horse.

What? I thought it was quite evident here that Miyu is worried about Ilya and doesn't want her to play any part in this. She wasn't worred about Ilya exploding and causing damage to the other girls before. She was worried that Ilya almost died.

Ilya is afraid to die, and didn't really want to do this job anyway. Ilya is also Miyu's first (and possibly only) friend. She's kicking Ilya out of something she's going to regret later.

Miyu feels that she signed up for the job in return for living a decent life. According to Ilya, she was tricked into this life/death game.

Characters don't look as hot anymore (as in the refined, lithe sort of hot) but I'll still look forward to Irisviel. I really like their (mother and daughter's) eyelashes.

[Kraco]

What? I thought it was quite evident here that Miyu is worried about Ilya and doesn't want her to play any part in this. She wasn't worred about Ilya exploding and causing damage to the other girls before. She was worried that Ilya almost died.

Come on, she wouldn't even look at Ilya at school and wouldn't deign to participate in the same picture story (or whatever) project. She might be socially awkward, but this episode surely gave the impression she's totally looking down on Ilya. She envies Ilya's power but hates her uncontrolled personality that occasionally make the high power a liability (in Miyu's opinion, that is), not an advantage. So, in short, she thinks Ilya has no business collecting the cards and thus is not worthy of being a friend outside of the business either.

[shinta|hikari]

I hope that her reason is a little bit of both. People aren't so simple that they always need to have one motivation for everything they do. It would be much better in terms of character development if Miyu reveals that while she is concerned for Illya's safety, her harsh words and behavior are also influenced by darker emotions like envy.

[Buffalobiian]

Come on, she wouldn't even look at Ilya at school and wouldn't deign to participate in the same picture story (or whatever) project. She might be socially awkward, but this episode surely gave the impression she's totally looking down on Ilya. She envies Ilya's power but hates her uncontrolled personality that occasionally make the high power a liability (in Miyu's opinion, that is), not an advantage. So, in short, she thinks Ilya has no business collecting the cards and thus is not worthy of being a friend outside of the business either.

It wouldn't be very convincing if she buddy-ed up with Ilya at school and everything outside of card-collecting now would it? She's both socially awkward and logical. She's driving Ilya away from this world that she wasn't prepared for (and doesn't need to risk her life for), and this is the only way she knows.

She is upset (not angry) at the end of episode 07 (right before the credits) and gives the Illya household a curious (from my perspective) look before she enters her house at ep08 13:09. The entire exchange between her and Rin (particularly Rin's expression right afterwards when they were alone) points towards whether Miyu was okay with their relationship. All this would seem rather unnecessary if the main concern was about Illya's performance.

I'm sure Miyu told Rin and Luvia exactly what her intentions were right after Illya flew off crying in episode 07. Rin initially thought Miyu was being way too harsh, but has not questioned it since. Her expression at the end of episode 08 was one that shows "it can't be helped" more so than worry.

Miyu does things methodically. If she's decided that she wants to drive Illya away, she'll do it effectively and resolutely. She won't screw up (or tries not to) and go "tehehe, you found out" afterwards.

Back in Episode 07 or 06, Illya says she called Miyu a friend but didn't understand the weight that carried. It hinted that this is what Miyu would do for someone she acknowledges as friend.


It would be much better in terms of character development if Miyu reveals that while she is concerned for Illya's safety, her harsh words and behavior are also influenced by darker emotions like envy.

I think at this stage there's at most a hint of envy, or none at all. Miyu was pissed after she saw Illya fly so effortlessly, but after she found out that such imagination requires no consideration or thought for reality, I think she decided that it was not pursuing. She's less of a "magical girl" than Illya, but after understanding her couldn't (and won't be willing to, I'd imagine) be an airhead to achieve it.

[Archangel]

Y'all should seriously read the manga, it has... i can't say what it has without spoiling it but rest assured that you won't be disappointed.

I'm no Shinta ( or Marik, or Bill, or Ryllharu ) but that manga sure does it for me in peculiar ways :3

[shinta|hikari]

You mean it is different from the anime?

[Buffalobiian]

Y'all should seriously read the manga, it has... i can't say what it has without spoiling it but rest assured that you won't be disappointed.

I'm no Shinta ( or Marik, or Bill, or Ryllharu ) but that manga sure does it for me in peculiar ways :3

Haha, wow.

Maybe I'll read it after this wraps up.

[shinta|hikari]

Why are wowing? What part of his post made you wow?

[Buffalobiian]

Why are wowing? What part of his post made you wow?

I typed the manga name into google images to preview what the manga had in store for us. The result made me wow. It's kinda spoilerish, so if you wanted to check out the manga later anyway.. I'd just wait till the show's over.

[Ryllharu]

[HorribleSubs] [HorribleSubs] Fate Kaleid Liner PRISMA ILYA - 09 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=470398)




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Irisveil toying with Illya, pretending to not know what's going on (at least vaguely), in order to help her. Ufufu~♥
Mother of the century.

[David75]

I see a huge price surge in homonculus moms... :D

[shinta|hikari]

Boring expected twist is boring and expected.

[Kraco]

Boring expected twist is boring and expected.

Although I guessed exactly this turn of events in my earlier post and thus can't deny it being exceedingly unsurprising, I'd still neg rep you for calling Iris boring if I was a pettier person. I enjoyed every moment of that super cute mother-daughter pair interaction scene.

Regardless, I think the fight was jolly good and I was happy Miyu was left bleeding and needed to be saved by Ilya, just like I had hoped for in the same earlier post. Miyu actually asking for help would have been too much, she would have died sooner than doing that, so it's okay this way.

I do have to wonder how Ilya cut Berserker with an energy blade, though. Even Excalibur couldn't cut him anymore, and Ilya wasn't equipping Archer to replicate any grand artifact.

[shinta|hikari]

I think this version of Berserker adapts and becomes immune to things that killed him. He did not necessarily get harder, he just could not be cut by Excalibur anymore. Reminds me of roaches.

I also liked the Irisviel scene. I am referring to Miyu's true motive. I just wanted there to be a bit more substance in Miyu's character, and not the usual overused development. God knows from all I have seen, I am more than tired enough of this "twist."

[Buffalobiian]

As I thought, the art style doesn't do Iri's sexiness justice. We got a bootless shot though, so that's something.

My favourite part of the episode was hearing the Saber warcry. It's pretty aggressive, yet high pitched enough that you can imagine it coming from a small body such as hers.

[Kraco]

Episode 10 Final - UTW (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=473385)

Last episode before the second season.





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Hmm... I would be lying if I said I was totally satisfied with this. I'd say the fight started very promisingly by their coordinated combo, but the finish was kind of unfulfilling with summoning multiple Excaliburs and then shooting a megabeam. I suppose it was quite similar to the sort of lowkey way of Berserker perishing in the Fate route of FSN, which was vastly more anticlimactic than the insanely cruel UBW scene.

Another thing I'm not so happy with is Miyu turning so singularly possessive and hostile towards anybody but Ilya. Not being social with anybody but Ilya makes sense with her weird personality, but I think she took a too long step over the line. If it was meant to be comedy, the humour was lost on me. I guess this will have the work cut out for Ilya in the next season: to make Miyu less of a frozen douche.

Although it's not much of a point in this story, but I'd have liked to see, in a very short scene, how Shirou and Iris interact.

Well, despite all that complaining, I liked this show well enough and will most definitely watch the continuation as well.

[Kraco]

Even if you guys were so disillusioned by the ending you didn't bother to comment on it, there are a few BD extras worth checking out:

Specials only 720p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=524329) | 1080p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=524330) - loligeddon
BD rip batches 720p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=524326) | 1080p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=524327) - loligeddon (includes also the extras plus some other stuff)

Especially the extras 3-5 were very worth watching. 1 & 2 felt like something they put quickly together to have something on the BD, but 3-5 are wholesome ministories. Shiroe gets a little screen time as well, but in a humorous manner showing how he's destined to end with the short stick in that household forever, it seems. Naturally the girls, including the maids and Iris, were the main characters.

It has been too long since I watched the show, so it's hard to say how much difference the BD rips make with the actual eps, but since they contain also UTW's untouched subs in addition to the release group's own versions, there's hardly anything to lose. At the very least they aren't mindlessly bloated encodes.

[Archangel]

Did Brown White Chocolate make an appearance yet?

[Kraco]

The recent ova: 720p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=532680) | 1080p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=532681) - loligeddon




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Not much happened in this at all. To be honest, it was quite a boring ova.


Did Brown White Chocolate make an appearance yet?

Maybe the answer is no, since I have no idea. The specials had no extra characters compared to the main show.