View Full Version : Hataraku Maou-sama!
Archangel
Fri, 04-05-2013, 05:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kG9SaQ0.jpg
Alternative Title: The Devil is a Part-Timer!
Type: TV
Episodes: 13
Source: Novel
Producers: Lantis, Pony Canyon, White Fox
Genres: Comedy, Demons, Romance, Shounen
Synopsis: Devil King Sadao is only one step away from conquering the world when he is beaten by Hero Emilia and forced to drift to the other world: modern-day Tokyo. As "conquering the world" are the only skills the Devil King possesses—and are obviously unnecessary in his new situation—he must work as a freeter to pay for his living expenses!
Resources: Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hataraku_Ma%C5%8D-sama!) | AniDB (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=9466) | MyAnimeList (http://myanimelist.net/anime/15809/Hataraku_Maou-sama!)
[Commie] - Episode 01 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=420344)
That was one hell of an impressive opening sequence, way to hook up my interest with some fast and fluid action. The comedy also did a good job keeping me interested afterwards, i'll definitely be following this.
Ryllharu
Fri, 04-05-2013, 05:41 PM
I gotta admit, I'm still leery with this show after the disaster of Ben-to (which the tone sort of reminds me of), but this first episode was great.
The series is animated by the Jormungand and Katanatagari folks, so it's pretty obvious why the animation at the beginning is so kickass.
But the Maou's attitude once getting to the human world was hilarious. The fact that he even considered using the final reserves of his magic to repair the deep fryers is golden. Also, his natural leadership and ambition allows him to strive for success in the most mundane of environments, throw everything into victory, and encourage his underlings (Touyama Nao (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=21312) ftw!). He might be down on his luck, but he's clawing his way back up.
Usually, I'd expect him to be down on his luck, moping around and being a pathetic loser until some cute rich girl takes pity on him and takes him in. Instead, he made sure he gathered as much info from the cops as possible, and started from scratch. That's entrepreneurial spirit! He's not getting any help, he's dividing his forces for efficiency, taking the burdens on himself, and not giving in. That's something to admire.
Now to see how far the hero has fallen. I suspect that she's lost a lot of her abilities as well, though she seems to be at least a little better off so far. I wonder who is bankrolling her, or if she's just putting up a strong appearance to make him shake his confidence.
Archangel
Fri, 04-05-2013, 05:58 PM
I really liked his character as well, he's a really committed worker and has impeccable work ethic. Also liked how he just nonchalantly gave away the umbrella with no big fuss, speech or shoujo bubbles. Both him and Aisler (sp?) were funny and badass when the situation demanded it, this is definitely something to follow.
Inb4 Mfauli shitting fest.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 04-05-2013, 08:05 PM
I just started reading the manga for this today. Ugh, accidentally spoiled myself.
animus
Fri, 04-05-2013, 09:58 PM
So far the first episode was entertaining as hell, can't really say the same for the other new series out so far. Those damn cosplaying gaijins.
David75
Sat, 04-06-2013, 02:07 AM
Out of the 10 new shows I tested yesterday eve, might be the only one I'll keep following.
Not that it was that good, rather it wasn't too cliché, had small surprises and kept me entertained.
For some reason, we get some shows with Maou in the title every season. New Trend? or is that I never really cared before?
I just hope it won't get boring too quickly, as most shows usually have a catchy first ep and then nothing else...
well some shows can't even have a good first ep:
Photokano is a show entirely cooked for you by Canon, and it's really bad.
Majestic Prince: they didn't even try, did they?
Karneval: Already had K last season, enough thanks.
Devil Survivor: FSN X something ?
Yahari..... overly long title.... Machigatteiru: Usual story starting with "fighting" Male and Female MC
Kraco
Sat, 04-06-2013, 03:21 AM
Usually, I'd expect him to be down on his luck, moping around and being a pathetic loser until some cute rich girl takes pity on him and takes him in. Instead, he made sure he gathered as much info from the cops as possible, and started from scratch. That's entrepreneurial spirit! He's not getting any help, he's dividing his forces for efficiency, taking the burdens on himself, and not giving in. That's something to admire.
Bullshit. I'd agree with you if you were talking about the hero here. But we are talking about the demon lord. He shouldn't be working at a fast food joint but bashing some yakuza heads to take over or starting a shady business. It's not like you'd need magic in this world of ours to be an evil bastard with far too much power. In fact if he had used the little magic he had left, he could have got a very good head start on a path to become an immoral business mogul. But instead he's happy selling fries and almost used the magic to repair the fricking deep fryer. Well, considering he started willingly a war on four fronts back in his home world, I reckon he's not the brightest fellow in general, but considering he started willingly a war on four fronts back in his home world, I thought he would have a wicked attitude and ambition. Apparently not. Instead he's both stupid and not wicked. A great combination for a demon lord, huh.
Ryllharu
Sat, 04-06-2013, 05:50 AM
Instead he's both stupid and not wicked. A great combination for a demon lord, huh.
For a comedy series?
The best combination.
They have to fit in and lay low until they figure out how to recharge their magic. Something they have again hilariously failed at. Taking over the yakuza wouldn't be very effective at the laying low part. Emilia probably would have figured it out sooner. The fast food employee situation nearly threw her off completely.
Nevertheless, he's decided to have his store conquer the rest of the franchise first and get more money. You gotta start somewhere.
Kraco
Sat, 04-06-2013, 07:42 AM
Nevertheless, he's decided to have his store conquer the rest of the franchise first and get more money. You gotta start somewhere.
But that leaves being a maou totally out of the question. It's like his background is that of a king of demons just because it looks oh so cool in the series description and because it would make a clumsy heroine pay any attention to him. But that's it. It's totally wasted on flipping hamburgers at a minor fast food restaurant. It also makes no sense how somebody like that could have become a maou in their home world. You'd think demons would be such backstabbing bastards that a doofus like that would have found himself killed twice over in no time by his own men.
I hope things will change in the future eps. It's not like I'd have decided to drop this already. I always like a story where the hero and the demon lord become a couple, although it would help if the demon lord was a bit more like a demon lord to spice things up.
Emilia probably would have figured it out sooner. The fast food employee situation nearly threw her off completely.
It didn't seem to me like he was expecting her to follow them to the human world in the first place, so playing low shouldn't have been an issue. Besides, a maou should be bold anyway. I mean, he even is at the restaurant, as much as one can be.
MFauli
Sat, 04-06-2013, 05:48 PM
Inb4 Mfauli shitting fest.
Well, sorry, but ...
No, let me start first by saying that I enjoyed this. The opening was fantastic (seriously, we saw important looking characters fighting each other and then suddenly die to the dozens in the span of 2 minutes). Really liked Satanīs attitude, too.
But, and hereīs the but: Way to ruin an interesting premise. Why did Satan change to a normal human so quickly? Why is he so nice and gives his umbrella away? Why is he not actively looking for a way to regain his powers? This is supposed to be the ultimate evil? Yeah, um, no.
From the summary in the OP, I expected this be about Satan coming to our world, except without his powers. But this guy isnīt Satan, neither in terms of powers NOR attitude. I mean ... wouldnīt it have been hilarious to watch a boy boss around the people around him, telling everyone heīs Satan? Thatīs what I was looking forward to.
Instead, Satan changed into a good guy by switching worlds. sigh
Anyway, will keep watching, itīs good enough.
Ryllharu
Sat, 04-06-2013, 06:55 PM
It also makes no sense how somebody like that could have become a maou in their home world. You'd think demons would be such backstabbing bastards that a doofus like that would have found himself killed twice over in no time by his own men.
It's not like he gated into Earth and then became a big softie the same day. He was still talking with authority and acting high and mighty that first night. He was suspicious of the food at first, and definitely didn't eat it (to the point where he later collapsed from lack of food), while his underling was already chowing down greedily. He planned, gathered an extraordinary amount of information from the cop he hypnotized so that he wouldn't arouse suspicion again as they settled in. At least give him the respect he deserves for that first night. While his underling was freaking out, he was calm and under control.
The thing is, they've been there quite a while by the end of the episode. You can't buy a fridge, a washing machine, and a bike after a month's salary working part-time. He's adapted. He has gotten used to interacting with the world they've ended up in, while his underling has been sent off to study, and has kept on task (though becoming a bit of a housewife) and remains calm and under control. So there is a bit of a role reversal from the beginning compared to the end.
So his ambitions have...suffered a bit from tunnel vision on his part of the duties. Which after all, is earning all the money so the two can survive. Someone like him falling so far and probably not even realizing it, I think that makes great comedy.
Kraco
Sun, 04-07-2013, 02:24 AM
Yeah, sure, except for the fact he's not a maou anymore. Even a hero with some wits would have done the same. They were, after all, from a world full of war and wickedness, so being cautious should be a given until they figured out what the world is all about. If the dude was still a maou, he wouldn't be frying fries happily. Even if he had ended up at the restaurant, he would have arranged for the joint boss to get into an accident and be conveniently present to take over her place temporarily. That would be something a maou would do - IF he ever bothered to work at a fast food restaurant, which is a big if, especially considering I still believe he didn't know he had to hide from the winning people of his own world. Instead this guy is genuinely happy he got a permanent position as a burger flipper.
If that's the limit of his ambitions, why did he start a grand war to enslave the whole world back in his home dimension?
Yukimura
Mon, 04-08-2013, 04:05 PM
I'm with Kraco on this one, the maou on Earth didn't feel at all like the same maou as in the opening scenes . As cool as I found the opening scenes I am kind of hoping none of that stuff is going to come up again and we can attribute the discrepancy to an introductory joke in keeping with the comedic bent the actual series is going to maintain. Maybe the actual point of the show will be to contrast the fundamental attitudes of the denizens of the maoh's world with those the typical Tokyo residents, but we'll have to see how the interactions with the Hero play out in episode 2 at the least.
Ryllharu
Thu, 04-11-2013, 06:54 PM
[FFF] Hataraku Maou-sama - 02 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=422732)
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Emelia's face at the police station, and also after she got locked out by Alsiel...and while begging for a place to stay for the night. :3
They made her cry. They're still evil after all!
Looks like she's just as much of an idiot as the other two. She seems to have a better job though.
Things are getting more intriguing with someone claiming they can cause earthquakes and shooting bullets at the Emelia and Maou. Also, jealous high-school aged junior employee infatuated with Maou...can't wait until she meets his "ex-girlfriend."
Maou at least still has some high ambitions. He intends to take over Japan first, then back to Ente Isla. He even had his serious face on.
MasterOfMoogles
Fri, 04-12-2013, 03:41 AM
If High Priest man isn't the badguy, I just don't know... I think it is highly likely he's ruling over Ente Isla in the absence of the hero and the demon king.
I imagine the earthquakes are involved in either transporting people to Earth or siphoning out magic power.
Chi-chan's house is probably on a leyline or something, so I'm sure they'll all have to go visit her at some point.
Kraco
Fri, 04-12-2013, 05:44 AM
If High Priest man isn't the badguy, I just don't know... I think it is highly likely he's ruling over Ente Isla in the absence of the hero and the demon king.
I imagine the earthquakes are involved in either transporting people to Earth or siphoning out magic power.
Chi-chan's house is probably on a leyline or something, so I'm sure they'll all have to go visit her at some point.
Those do sound pretty good theories based on the exceedingly little we know at the moment. Since neither Maou nor his henchman nor Hero can regain any magic, it would be strange if whoever followed them could without resorting to extraordinary methods. I'm still thinking Maou doesn't do nearly enough to remedy his situation (because he does nothing), and Ashiya only reading some general books on old Earth folklore, history, and whatnot is not going to help them overly much. If they are magical beings to begin with, they should have some innate sense to find external sources of mana if any exist. On the other hand, they seem to be so stupid that I doubt they could themselves devise ways to siphon it back from their own world. Maou apparently is a man who never bothered to learn anything by himself and probably just ordered his underlings to do stuff for him. Now that flaw is kicking him in the nuts.
I'm still not getting really well into this series. Ryll praises the foolishness is there to make this great comedy, but I haven't laughed once during these eps. The last portion of this episode was a bit better with the interaction between Maou and Hero, but all in all this is a failure as a comedy as well as far as I'm concerned.
David75
Fri, 04-12-2013, 12:20 PM
MoM is probably not too far from what's really happening.
After all Chi-chan is in the ED, so she's part of the 4 main characters.
The earthquakes and gates theory is nice too. I guess someone from EnteIsla could gate to earth, use the stored powers they have left to trace Hero and Maou the first night and open a gate back before their remaining powers go too low.
The second night, they get lucky with Hero and Maou being at the same location and try to eliminate both, then go back to EI to replenish energy.
Now the question is wether the culprit is Chi-chan, but since I doubt it, I'd say it's Hero's co-worker.
MFauli
Fri, 04-12-2013, 05:13 PM
WHY?!
Thatīs how Iīd sum up this second episode.
So many scenes where I went "Why?!", because they didnīt make sense, considering heīs the devil and sheīs the hero. I guess putting both of them in opposite shoes is intentional and for comedy purposes, but ... it didnīt work on me. Not a single laugh from me.
Iīll keep watching, because the initial premise (the devil entering the real world and having to face mundane tasks) is too interesting. But if things donīt get better fast, Iīll drop this show. Real pitty how they didnīt use the promise of the first five minutes of ep1.
Ryllharu
Fri, 04-12-2013, 05:49 PM
You people have no sense of humor. Especially Kraco.
Xelbair
Sat, 04-13-2013, 05:19 AM
Earthquake happened when maou was thinking about Chi-chan. probably it is related to that.
Yukimura
Mon, 04-15-2013, 04:16 PM
It's still not really working for me. For example the scene with the Hero getting locked out was rather funny, but then they let her in and it was like it never happened, the comedy was there but the narrative seemed completely suborned to it, which is unfortuante for me as the narritive is what drew me to the show in the first place.
I think the biggest detractor for me is the gap between what the plot says the characters should feel towards each other and how they actually act in order to construct comedic situations. The plot says Maoh and Hero are mortal enemies with good reason to hate each other but they act less hostile towards one another than most tsundere and pervy guy combos. If not for the mystery aspect introduced by the magical attack I don't think I'd download the third ep and even though I will I have strong doubts the show will end up being worth it for me.
Kraco
Mon, 04-15-2013, 04:34 PM
Not that I'd ever want to defend this show, but since Maou is actually nothing like a king of demons in the first place (or actually second place, since in the first place of the other world he did seem like one), it makes more sense. After all, Hero should be... You know, a hero. So, if a hero noticed the maou is actually acting like a lowly human toiling his days away at an honest job, why would the hero anymore want to slay the maou?
But other than that weak, limping half-explanation, there's nothing in the plot supporting it. It just happened to serve the (largely missing) comedy.
Ryllharu
Mon, 04-15-2013, 04:38 PM
Come on.
Two people (three if you count...however you spell his name), thrown in a world none of them know, both a little helpless without their powers, none of them knowing if they'll ever get home. You don't think they'd find a little common ground even if they were mortal enemies? Especially now that they are getting attacked by some mysterious third party who definitely has the upper hand.
Having to rely on Maou is humiliating Emilia, but unlike Maou, she's absolutely alone here.
Yukimura
Tue, 04-16-2013, 05:40 PM
I think the first step to discussing this further is to state flatly that in my case suspension of disbelief has proven impossible for this show already. Because I can't take the show seriously and look at it from solely within its universe I can't reasonably engage in a discussion where I am limited to using only in universe facts to explain my feelings about the show or my acceptance of particular events or behaviors that are canonical within the universe.
I don't/can't/won't believe that the Demon King and Hero described in the prologue could possibly be the same characters we've seen since the action moved to Earth. They are simply too far removed from what I project the people in the prologue would have had to be like to be where they were and doing what they were doing before they ended up on Earth. This is not to say there are not believable things about them, merely that there are not enough of them to make the whole package swallowable.
The playes look more like trope transport vehicles than actual, even one dimensional, characters. No explanation is going to be sufficient to account for the apparent personality and priority shift and if their current personalities were their personalities from the beginning then I can't accept the initial conditions that brought them to their current predicament as plausible.
FelixZeroAlastor
Fri, 04-19-2013, 10:05 AM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! Episode 3 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=424890)
Archangel
Fri, 04-19-2013, 01:09 PM
You know a show is low budget when the opening looks like something out of windows media player.
MFauli
Fri, 04-19-2013, 02:56 PM
omg, the aneurisms, they keep coming :/
The ending scene was actually kind of badass, epic even. And ruined when Maou told Emi "Take care of her". Ugh. YOU ARE EVIL, YOU DO NOT SAVE!!1
Itīs ironic/sad how many of the things characters in this show casually say is what the audience has to wonder themselves.
"What kind of demon lord is he?!", outrageously asked by Emi, when she spots Maou being on a date.
Or in the very beginning when his underling tells Maou what he wouldīve done with the keys, and Maou answers with "Youīre a demon.", in accusingly manner.
ARGH!!!1
And this evil demon appearing here makes no sense. Maou is THE evil being, the evil of all evil.
Furthermore, and this might be too philosophical a stance for such a show, but anyway: It would NOT be a happy end, if Maou somehow ended up on the good side. Why? Because to him, being evil is NOT being evil. In his view, what he does is whatīs "good". And whatīs good for most of us, is evil to him. Good and Evil are switched, when itīs about the Evil of all Evil. Thatīs why I find it sad that it seems that heīs going to turn full-on good in time.
Itīs especially bad, since, again, the ending of this episode proved how fantastic this animeīs atmosphere could have been. Dat music.
Uchiha Barles
Fri, 04-19-2013, 06:06 PM
Can we just take the show for what it is? Ridiculous premise with good comedy? Besides, this is japanese animation we're talking about here. Bad guys routinely are not bad, but rather misunderstood. Sure he's trying to conquer whatever land they're from, but why? Plus, he's supposed to be some version of Satan right? He's been portrayed as a misunderstood lover of freedom an autonomy. There's nothing wrong with this show.
Ryllharu
Fri, 04-19-2013, 06:33 PM
Agreed. It feels like we've been having the same discussion each week.
- The Maou is pathetic, he's not evil enough now that he's here, etc.
It's a comedy ffs. Of course the situation is ridiculous. That's why it is funny.
The demon lord is more interested in getting money than doing evil. He's more interested in the happiness of his adorable co-worker than making her his slave. He's powerless, the hero is powerless. The Hero acts more like an ex-girlfriend who broke it off but gets super jealous when he's with another girl and not obsessing about her all the time the way she continues to obsess about him. The two keep calling on each other when they're in trouble, despite how much they hate each other. The new girl gets feisty when the "ex-girlfriend" wants to butt in. The demon lord keeps getting dragged into the police station, but sits quietly and obeys the rules.
That's funny. Stop pretending this series is anything other than a comedy.
So maybe for some of you, your suspension of disbelief has been ruined by the opening of the first episode (anime original I found out btw). Can't the lot of you come up with some other reasons that you think this series sucks? I can only retort to those kinds of arguments the same way each time.
Kraco
Thu, 04-25-2013, 03:19 PM
Episode 4 - FFF (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427274)
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So, if I interpreted this episode's message correclty, Maou was never particularly evil. He simply had never met a human, never visited the human societies nor in any way made himself familiar with them. Perhaps he had heard that humans like to wage war and they have great warriors and heroes. And so he wanted to give them a grand war and make them subjects to his unholiness so that they'd never need to live without conflicts in their lives. He never realised that's actually the one thing humans didn't want. Now in Japan, he sees for the first time with his own eyes that most of humans in fact have no love for battles. Naturally(?) he decides to honour that discovery.
Dunno, quite a stretch. Lucifer rather has what it takes to be a demon.
In the end nothing forces an evil being to do fell deeds. A good being can only do good deeds, lest it becomes evil, but an evil one can do whatever they want, be it good or bad. However, if there's no desire to ignore the wishes and lives of others and use them as mere steppingstones to greater power, then it's an open question why such a character did anything evil in the first place, to gain the repuration of being evil. It's a bit hard to connect the name Satan to the old saying of the worst deeds being done with the best of intentions.
David75
Thu, 04-25-2013, 03:26 PM
So Lucifer would be Emilia's father killer and Satan had no passions about war and so on... he was merely a tool? like a paper king or something. He lived his happy life in his castle, only heard there was war, but never understood what was at stake?
I wonder if that will really work.
Now regarding Lucifer, it seems he understood where/how to get mana/power. In his case, from some people dark feelings.
I only write some, as it seems Chi-chan is his source, rather than anyone around.
I would not like Emilia to be the power source for Maou, and then I wonder what source Emilia will have to find.
Ryllharu
Thu, 04-25-2013, 05:16 PM
So Lucifer would be Emilia's father killer and Satan had no passions about war and so on... he was merely a tool? like a paper king or something. He lived his happy life in his castle, only heard there was war, but never understood what was at stake?
I wonder if that will really work.
Now regarding Lucifer, it seems he understood where/how to get mana/power. In his case, from some people dark feelings.
I only write some, as it seems Chi-chan is his source, rather than anyone around.
I would not like Emilia to be the power source for Maou, and then I wonder what source Emilia will have to find.
I would say more like powerful and evil people found their way to Maou, who was even more powerful, but didn't really care one way or the other. They guided him to doing evil deeds, hiding behind his coattails when the more powerful members of the church struck back. Alsiel's demeanor is more like Maou's.
Emilia has a hard time accepting that Maou was really just doing whatever he wanted, backing up his more nefarious allies in their evil endeavors. He didn't really care one way or the other. He was strong, at most he figured he should be the supreme ruler (or was convinced he should be) and sought to make it so. If people fought back, he annihilated them. Sounds a lot like Superior (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6685) to me.
Chi-chan must be special somehow. Maou probably got power from her too. I don't think it is a matter that he hypnotized her father and that somehow bled off onto her. She's the special one, her father is just coincidental.
I was kind of hoping that Maou would tell Emelia he was being nice to her because she's here all alone, while he at least has one of his lackeys (though little do they know that Emelia's allies are on the way).
shinta|hikari
Fri, 04-26-2013, 07:31 AM
I completely understand Emilia's feelings when she heard Satan's excuse. "Your father died because I was ignorant." Yeah, it would have been better if he was an evil asshole, but instead, we have a hands off powerhouse ruler who simply did not have the time/desire to understand humans. It makes it difficult to completely hate him, making Emilia hate him all the more.
That said, I also understand Maou's situation. His (stupid) light apology for what he has done (allowed to happen) exemplifies his ignorance. He really did not know what his conquest meant. He really did not understand humans. Even now, he does not completely understand them, judging from how he handled his apology towards Emilia.
The inconsistent parts that people have been complaining about are slowly being explained. It would be unfair to say that just because this is a comedy that things don't have to make sense. They are gradually starting to.
MFauli
Fri, 04-26-2013, 03:24 PM
Agreed. It feels like we've been having the same discussion each week.
- The Maou is pathetic, he's not evil enough now that he's here, etc.
It's a comedy ffs. Of course the situation is ridiculous. That's why it is funny.
The demon lord is more interested in getting money than doing evil. He's more interested in the happiness of his adorable co-worker than making her his slave. He's powerless, the hero is powerless. The Hero acts more like an ex-girlfriend who broke it off but gets super jealous when he's with another girl and not obsessing about her all the time the way she continues to obsess about him. The two keep calling on each other when they're in trouble, despite how much they hate each other. The new girl gets feisty when the "ex-girlfriend" wants to butt in. The demon lord keeps getting dragged into the police station, but sits quietly and obeys the rules.
That's funny. Stop pretending this series is anything other than a comedy.
So maybe for some of you, your suspension of disbelief has been ruined by the opening of the first episode (anime original I found out btw). Can't the lot of you come up with some other reasons that you think this series sucks? I can only retort to those kinds of arguments the same way each time.
And episode 4 proves you wrong.
Is this a comedy anime? Personally, I havenīt laughed once in all those episodes so far. Maybe chuckeld a bit during ep1 when the world change happened with all its consequences.
But now we have an event like that: A magical being presenting itself in broad daylight, destroying its surroundings, not giving a shit about this magic-less reality, and following an archetypical villainīs plan.
THAT is why Iīm still bitterly disappointing in so many things about this show. The premise is fucking A-awesome. The most evil being slipping into our normal world, (mostly) without his powers, having to deal with a human beingīs everyday life. What we got is an EXTREMELY non-sensical mishmash of harem-and general anime-tropes, without any cleverness, without characters that make sense in themselves. You say we should just accept it? Guess what: When I look at Maou now, I feel sad, I feel bad for him. Why? Because somehow he was changed from being absolute evil to this standard-fare anime-hero. If you shut off your brain, you might just say "oh well, isnīt it nice that he had a change of heart?". NO. It is not nice. Imagine this: You are changed to the exact opposite person you are right now. If youīre a communist, now youīre a nazi. If youīre straight, now youīre gay. If you like Jojo, now you hate him. And so on. Now also imagine that somehow you can observe this changed persona of yourself. Would you really think "oh well, isnīt that nice?" The hell you would.
As I see it, Maou died. He was killed. Because itīs our mind that defines who we are. A person can be killed by having its body ruined, but so can it through the loss of memory. And this Maou weīre currently watching is not the real Maou. He "good" for good people, but heīs in a truly sad, pitiable state from his own kindīs perspective. And, since he is the main character, thatīs the perspective that should have to count.
It makes no sense, and isnīt resulting in exciting scenes, and most of all, itīs not funny.
And what is it that proves you wrong? Again, these perfectly awesome fantasy-scenes like the one at the end of ep4. For fuckīs sake, I had a bit of a Gantz-feeling here, thatīs how awesome it was (even though the peopleīs reaction wasnīt strong enough - thereīs a black winged angel, you idiots, scream louder! panic!). And thatīs exactly the kind of chilling atmosphere that the intro of episode 1 promised. You can go on with your "then stop watching, idiot"-agenda, OR you could try to understand why some of us are disappointed in how this anime unfolded.
Just for completionīs sake, hereīs how Iīd have love this anime to go on:
- Maou arrives in our reality, powerīs gone
- his attitude is the same from when he was the most powerful, most evil demon
- he starts walking around in public, talking loudly, saying stuff thatīs super embarrassing for any normal person, you know
- he begins acting on his attitude, which promptly gets him into trouble. Like "stealing" or tossing some "worthless human" to the ground.
- quickly, he realizes that somethingīs gotten wrong, very wrong, and he keeps a low profile from here on out
- what follows now is Maou aka "Yagami Light" trying to solve the mystery of his lost powers, how to regain them, and how to conquer this reality, too. He does that by keeping a fake-nice guy-appearance on the outside, but his thoughts are pure, dark evil. And as time progresses, his power in the real world rises (working his way up in some business), his plans take form and become grander and crueler. All that while Emilia, the hero, is watching Maou, trying to figure out if heīs really gone "good", or if she can justify killing him - since sheīs a true hero, she couldnīt bring it over herself to kill somebody who isnīt evil anymore. Then you could have added in elements like Lucifer to spice things up.
THAT IS HOW AWESOME THIS ANIME COULD HAVE BEEN - following itīs premise from the beginning. Yes, of course, it is silly to expect these exact plot elements to happen, but come on, itīs as if the author decided to show the opening sequence just to troll everybody.
Ryllharu
Fri, 04-26-2013, 04:24 PM
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Did you not even pay attention to Maou's explanation that enraged Emilia? He was evil in Ente Isla because he didn't give a shit, and never bothered to learn differently. He just did whatever he felt like. Other, more blatantly evil (but weaker) beings never tried to dissuade him, and for all we know, went crying to him about how some church members drove them off. Lucifer stated it quite plainly, he's "about to finally" surpass Maou with the power he's been stealing from Chiho and others. Lucifer was weaker than Maou was, and bowed to Maou, but longed to take his place the whole time. If Maou or his underlings got attacked, he fought back. That makes him "evil" to the humans, but it never made him an evil guy.
I'm not really sure what is so hard to understand. He's never been all that evil, but his underlings sure as hell are. He didn't even attack the human army until they entered his throne room. Lucifer burned down Emilia's village and killed her father. Rewatch the eps 1 opening. The Generals attacked the islands, not Maou.
Think about this: Who really tells you Maou is evil? Just the narrator, and it's pretty easy to assume that that was someone from the Church, just going by the tone of the dialogue. There is in fact, zero evidence that Maou actually was evil, so he's actually the most trustworthy about his own "evilness." Emelia is upset because his actions here are ruining her own determination that he was an evil force she was born to slay. He's not living up to what she was told by the Church to believe. His actions are backing up his own words that he simply never bothered to understand who was fighting against him.
Furthermore...not once have I mentioned anyone should stop watching this show, so I most certainly do not have a, "'then stop watching, idiot'-agenda". I very deliberately did not do so in the above post (http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php/22476-Hataraku-Maou-sama!?p=528443&viewfull=1#post528443), though I may have been sorely tempted to do so when I wrote that post. I refrained. I wanted a different reason for why the others are disappointed in the show, rather than the same complaints week after week after week...which you have done once again. The same complaints week after week do not make a very entertaining discussion, so I made the conscious decision to put it another way. I've been trying to convince the dissenters that this show is as good as I think it is and to keep watching.
I'm just going to ignore your little, "I wish it was more like Gantz and Deathnote" fantasy. How boring life would be if all the stories were all the same.
And yes, it is a comedy, of the "fish out of water" variety. If you don't think it's funny, that's fine. That doesn't make it not a comedy. The suggestion that your clearly misguided reaction to it somehow proves that it isn't a comedy is nothing more than dross.
MFauli
Fri, 04-26-2013, 04:34 PM
Awesome, so your whole argument relies upon "he wasnīt really evil to begin with". Thatīs really just one very silm way of interpreting what happened in episode 4.
Ryllharu
Fri, 04-26-2013, 04:49 PM
That's because one of us was paying attention during the episode.
Hint: It wasn't you.
MFauli
Fri, 04-26-2013, 04:59 PM
That's because one of us was paying attention during the episode.
Hint: It wasn't you.
Seems we donīt share the same definition of "paying attention".
Hint: Try differentiating fact from wishful interpretation.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 04-26-2013, 06:59 PM
I think the title alone is enough indication that this is a comedy.
You can also google the genre if you still don't think so.
Kraco
Sat, 04-27-2013, 02:56 AM
We do know for a fact Maou intended to conquer all the islands and be the overlord of demons and humans alike. He said that himself. It's also fully his responsibility if his generals were performing atrocities when attacking the human islands, with ignorance or disinterest absolving nothing. So, he was evil. But then again, maybe he wanted to create one world where there were no demons and humans but only citizens of equal rights and responsibilities... I doubt he will ever get a second chance, so we will never know if he simply wanted to be evil once to give the future generations a better world.
MFauli
Sat, 04-27-2013, 03:10 AM
Btw. Iīm not saying youīre factually wrong, Ryll. Just that there can be more than one way to interpret things.
At least, letīs hope this anime doesnīt butcher Luficer and keeps him badass and evil.
Ryllharu
Sat, 04-27-2013, 04:51 AM
At least, letīs hope this anime doesn't butcher Luficer and keeps him badass and evil.I do not anticipate that being much of a problem.
However, I equally wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a male yandere. >_<
shinta|hikari
Sat, 04-27-2013, 04:58 AM
He isn't going to be all evil, probably. It is much too early in a comedy series for such a villain to appear. One more vote for the yandere.
Ryllharu
Thu, 05-02-2013, 06:25 PM
I got gate sick once. Spewed across 11 dimensions. Not fun.
[FFF] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 05 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=429782)
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I think that settles the argument about whether or not Maou was actually evil before, or just misunderstood. The Church had every intention of unifying the world behind them using Maou and his allies as "the enemy" then secretly killing Emilia and taking all the credit. After that, they'd rule the world. Emilia's friends confirmed that the entire Church went full blown tyrannical the moment Maou left with Emelia disappearing right behind him. They've been the real face of evil the whole time. Maou just wanted to rule (and arguably, rightfully so with his level of power) without realizing the consequences of his previous actions.
Were Maou's underlings evil? Yes. Was he overtly evil? No. But he is absurdly powerful when fully charged. Emilia is really the only person in either world who would really have a chance against him.
Otherwise, the fight was comedy gold, as I've begun to expect from this series, not really taking anything seriously (despite how stark the episode began). Maou's true form was straight-up Fist of the North Star + horns.
Chiho <3
Archangel
Thu, 05-02-2013, 07:48 PM
When he started talking about discount coupons on his deathbed i fucking lost it so hard. The humor is fantastic and they're working their budget REALLY well, the whole thing is great.
Kraco
Fri, 05-03-2013, 03:04 AM
The jokes did nothing for me in this episode either, but I have to admit Chiho's expressions were very amusing.
Ryll, Maou was probably even more tyrannical than the church back in their original world. Otherwise he couldn't have ruled over his greedy and more straightforward underlings, nor would people, both demons and humans, have feared him enough to grant him the immense power. Since that fear is the source of his power. If he had won the war, people wouldn't have only had him as the supreme overlord but all the wicked and cruel subcommanders above them as well. By the looks of it, the church is still mostly comprised of far less overpowering individuals, so if the church had changed too much, people could have rebelled. Even a needlessly strict church would have probably been far better than a rule by demons.
Dark Dragon
Fri, 05-03-2013, 04:06 AM
"I set that shit down like a boss!"
This show is awesome, that is all.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-03-2013, 08:17 AM
The teleport > exasperated face > Aquarion punch was awesome.
I doubt even Emilia can take Maou on one on one. The only reason he ran to earth was because the entire hero party plus a huge human army was right on him and Ashiya. It was a mistake to divide his forces like that. He should have just taken all his generals and crushed Emilia right away.
So did Maou lose his desire to rule now? He practically said that he does not want to return. Right now, Maou seems much more heroic than petty Emilia. I mean, she was like all panicked and suicidal when Maou "died." She even forgot to use her remaining power for a last struggle. Right after he revives, she gets wet (nureru!) starts acting all bossy. Kirino much? Her lack of gal speak still makes her miles better though.
MFauli
Fri, 05-03-2013, 04:19 PM
I donīt expect anything anymore, but I will say this: Thereīs a really awesome fantasy-anime trapped inside this "comedy" anime. Itīs a real pitty. :(
Lucifer was fantastic, a true madman. My favorite kind of villain, doesnīt give a shit about any sort of conventions, just loves to wreak havoc. And then Maou ... his face when staring at Lucifer from close was super creepy, actually more fitting to something like Shingeki no Kyojin. Wow. And the music when Maou transformed and then later Emilia made for another badass moment.
And then thereīs the fact that Maou doesnīt care about being a worldīs ruler any longer, because of ... McRonalgīs.
:|
You know, comedy there, comedy here, IF ONLY they gave a better reason for Maouīs change of mind. No, the "I like a humanīs way of life" isnīt one. Call me a bad person, but if I had the chance to be an absolute ruler over a whole world, Iīd accept in the blink of an eye.
What also sucks is how meaningless the fight against Lucifer was. He wasnīt even killed, it was all turned into a "oh you bad boy, donīt do this again or Iīll slap you more!" Also lol @Orba. "I have to save my sacred powers for our return" - then keeps using his powers to fly. Oookay.
-------------------------------
Well, I donīt know what to expect from this anime from here on. Two things I wish for:
1.) More badass Maou-fight scenes
2.) A proper explanation for Maouīs change of heart. One that explains giving up on a whole world.
Kraco
Fri, 05-03-2013, 05:06 PM
2.) A proper explanation for Maouīs change of heart. One that explains giving up on a whole world.
There's this Korean webcomic called "The Devil King Is Bored". While the maou in that comic compared to the one in this show is like night and day, perhaps the ultimate reason is the same: Maou might have been deadly bored in their original world. It's possible he had always been far more powerful than anybody else, and perhaps the rest were so afraid of him that they never even dared to challenge him. Losing the war suddenly could have been the first time things didn't go according to the plan, and thus he swore he'd return, to tackle that challenge. However, here on Earth, he suddenly found out he's absolutely nobody. He has so little power that even some punk from the streets might kick his ass. Plus he needs to eat and that takes money.
Considering how quickly he figured out the source of the temporary power, I have no doubt he could have done that even earlier, had he decided to try. So, evidence suggests he willingly didn't, and instead he chose to face the endless road of struggling upwards like a lowly human would. So far he hasn't been bored. The difference here is naturally that unlike a random human, Maou doesn't really need to do it. He's like some millionaire in a (shitty) reality-TV show who goes to some common workplace for a few days to have fun trying to work like the rabble, fully knowing that it doesn't decide the rest of his life.
Ryllharu
Fri, 05-03-2013, 05:17 PM
I donīt expect anything anymore, but I will say this: Thereīs a really awesome fantasy-anime trapped inside this "comedy" anime. Itīs a real pitty. :(
Lucifer was fantastic, a true madman. My favorite kind of villain, doesnīt give a shit about any sort of conventions, just loves to wreak havoc. And then Maou ... his face when staring at Lucifer from close was super creepy, actually more fitting to something like Shingeki no Kyojin. Wow. And the music when Maou transformed and then later Emilia made for another badass moment.
And then thereīs the fact that Maou doesnīt care about being a worldīs ruler any longer, because of ... McRonalgīs.
:|
You know, comedy there, comedy here, IF ONLY they gave a better reason for Maouīs change of mind. No, the "I like a humanīs way of life" isnīt one. Call me a bad person, but if I had the chance to be an absolute ruler over a whole world, Iīd accept in the blink of an eye.
...
2.) A proper explanation for Maouīs change of heart. One that explains giving up on a whole world.
That's precisely why he isn't ready to return yet.
He's going to dominate the McRonalg's Employee of the Month list first, then conquer the regional sales figures, then the national sales figures! After that, he can conquer Tokyo, then Japan, then the world!...and then go back to reconquer Ente Isla.
Priorities...priorities. Why flee from fresh territory for entrenched battlegrounds when you can conquer Earth before they're even aware of what's happening?
All according to the plan...ku ku ku.
Uchiha Barles
Fri, 05-03-2013, 05:28 PM
And then thereīs the fact that Maou doesnīt care about being a worldīs ruler any longer, because of ... McRonalgīs.
:|
See? This is what I mean. How is that anything short of hilarious? It pains me to see people missing the point :(
David75
Sat, 05-04-2013, 12:40 AM
That's precisely why he isn't ready to return yet.
He's going to dominate the McRonalg's Employee of the Month list first, then conquer the regional sales figures, then the national sales figures! After that, he can conquer Tokyo, then Japan, then the world!...and then go back to reconquer Ente Isla.
Priorities...priorities. Why flee from fresh territory for entrenched battlegrounds when you can conquer Earth before they're even aware of what's happening?
All according to the plan...ku ku ku.
That.
Plus ruling a bad food company might prove a great source of evil energy :D
FelixZeroAlastor
Thu, 05-09-2013, 05:38 PM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 06 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=432015)
FelixZeroAlastor
Fri, 05-17-2013, 12:28 AM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 07 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=434227)
Poor Chiho. She's been broken by a layered boxed lunch.
Kraco
Fri, 05-17-2013, 04:29 AM
Poor Chiho. She's been broken by a layered boxed lunch.
That was to be expected the moment Maou got the lunch package from the neighbour.
The attacker and the neighbour could be the same person, the eye colour was close enough I guess, but otherwise they didn't give the same feeling. Though logically it might make sense she would have stuck close to Maou in the hopes of locating Hero through him, and thus didn't do anything about Maou. Although that would hardly explain the bento with a heart shape...
Inazuma
Fri, 05-17-2013, 06:10 AM
This show deserves some praise, the animation and the sound fit perfectly while the story unfolds nicely without big pacing issues.
My guess at first was that purple attacker was Lucifer, considering the color scheme but it doesn't really make sense.
Archangel
Fri, 05-17-2013, 12:12 PM
Jesus Christ why is Hero such a huge bitch?
FelixZeroAlastor
Fri, 05-17-2013, 12:51 PM
Jesus Christ why is Hero such a huge bitch?
Well she grew up leading a life she never wanted due to the threat of Maou and his underlings. She just can't accept that Maou and his underlings are actually respectable people as opposed to the monsters she always thought they were. She also seems to be coping with the denial that she actually likes Maou.
Kraco
Fri, 05-17-2013, 12:53 PM
Jesus Christ why is Hero such a huge bitch?
She lost her parents violently. That, as such, would have still allowed her to grow up as a wholesome person under the right circumstances, but she had the utter misfortune of ending up in the hands of the corrupt church. Growing up with those greedy bastardly old geezers, she's lucky she's even sane. Not being a huge bitch is asking too much.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-17-2013, 06:15 PM
Jesus Christ why is Hero such a huge bitch?
Tsundere.
Archangel
Fri, 05-17-2013, 08:35 PM
She was falling off the stairs, Maou saved her and then she punched and kneed him in the face. The thin line between bitch and tsundere was crossed a long time ago, she's 100% cunt.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-17-2013, 08:39 PM
I'm not denying she's a horrible (almost Kirino level) bitch. I just gave the reason why she acts like it. Those two are not mutually exclusive after all.
Ryllharu
Fri, 05-17-2013, 09:13 PM
I'm not denying she's a horrible (almost Kirino level) bitch.
Woah, don't go that far. Emelia is more like an angry ex-girlfriend who goes out of her way to tell other women what a jerk her boyfriend was (true or otherwise), but still wants him back because she is 85% psycho.
I'm leaning toward her not being a bitch, she's just lonely (even if she can talk to her old friends via cellphones straight out of Zombie desu ka?!). She secretly wants to hang out with the rest of them, but thinks it would be a betrayal.
FelixZeroAlastor
Sat, 05-25-2013, 02:12 AM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 08 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=436373)
The best part of this episode was when James from Pokemon walked in.
Archangel
Sat, 05-25-2013, 02:30 AM
That wasn't James, this guy was straight.
This show has the best reaction faces, love it.
FelixZeroAlastor
Thu, 06-06-2013, 10:43 PM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 09 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=438545)
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 10 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=440545)
Kraco
Fri, 06-07-2013, 01:12 PM
Yusa is very flat and Chiho is even more endowed than I expected. But I guess it makes perfect sense if one has lived the life of a soldier and one has been eating fast food.
NeoCybercoin
Fri, 06-07-2013, 06:43 PM
The end did surprise me. That manager is a angel?Or just someone from the church?
Archangel
Fri, 06-07-2013, 07:27 PM
The end did surprise me. That manager is a angel?Or just someone from the church?
Why would someone from the church have angel wings? Angels have angel wings.
Kraco
Sat, 06-08-2013, 01:51 AM
The end did surprise me. That manager is a angel?Or just someone from the church?
Considering how sleazy (yet successful) the dude seems to be, angels are a bigger threat than demons.
NeoCybercoin
Sat, 06-08-2013, 10:37 AM
Well he obviously has powers and since demons get their power from fear, do angels get theirs from happiness or positive emotions or something?
Kraco
Sat, 06-08-2013, 10:52 AM
Well he obviously has powers and since demons get their power from fear, do angels get theirs from happiness or positive emotions or something?
It would certainly fit this show: Maou gets his power from fear but uses his days to excel in customer service making people happy, so an angel getting his power from happiness should logically use his days to give people the creeps.
animus
Sat, 06-08-2013, 07:16 PM
Like someone else said, this show really does have the best facial animations.
Also I liked that Demon's/Dark Souls reference.
FelixZeroAlastor
Thu, 06-13-2013, 11:21 PM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 11 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=442734)
Watching Suzuno kill that guy with that hammer was hilarious. It looked like a fake hammer and then splat.
I can't believe we are down to one episode.
Kraco
Fri, 06-14-2013, 08:10 AM
Things certainly sped up, although Ashiya is getting more and more ridiculously useless.
I guess Suzuno finds it exceedingly difficult not to obey orders and do what she always has done at this point. Stopping here would basically equal to admitting she's nothing but a dirty assassin and a tool soaked in blood. Even though it doesn't really look like she believes deep down in the justification of her actions, but I suppose she can still continue to try to fool herself on the surface in order to have something to believe in.
Ryllharu
Fri, 06-14-2013, 02:55 PM
Chiho's the real hero here. She's always believed in Maou, and is willing to call out people she's pretty sure can kill her to defend him.
Totally agree with Kraco's Suzuno analysis.
I think it's actually gotten rather annoying that Ashiya hasn't even been able to get off the floor in what...five episodes? Maybe he'll be the one to stop Orba...
vejita613
Fri, 06-14-2013, 04:54 PM
Food poisoning ain't fun. I'm surprised he hasn't died yet.
Kraco
Sat, 06-15-2013, 02:30 AM
Food poisoning ain't fun. I'm surprised he hasn't died yet.
He would be the first demon general in the history books to die of food poisoning. He's so useless he would totally deserve such a questionable honour.
KrayZ33
Sat, 06-15-2013, 03:13 AM
Its annoying, because after so many episodes, his whining is not really funny anymore.
I'd rather see more of Ente Island
Dark Dragon
Sat, 06-15-2013, 03:14 AM
All the noodles came from Suzuno.
It's very possible that they're poisoned, considering her previous profession.
Maybe Demons are just more resistant to it and Ashiya just has the worst of it because he ate the most.
Ryllharu
Sat, 06-15-2013, 05:52 AM
But everyone ate the noodles (but maybe not Lucifer because they enjoy not feeding him). Ashiya just ate way more than everyone else. Even their guests.
He's just pathetic.
vejita613
Sat, 06-15-2013, 06:09 AM
Wait, did Urushihara eat those noodles too? I thought he ate nothing but fast food?
MFauli
Sat, 06-15-2013, 06:31 AM
Iīve got to say, this show got a lot more enjoyable when it started to focus on the McRonald-work with episode 9. Kinda makes me forget all the shit from the beginning episodes.
Btw I hate characters like the kimono-girl. how rightous can you be? killing innocent people at one time, then deciding itīs bad and call yourself one of the good guys. Then going back to killing in the name of good. super bitch. I hope she at least goes through with killing Maou now. Of course, he wont be killed, but she should seriously wound him or something.
Ryllharu
Sat, 06-15-2013, 06:38 AM
Obviously not going to happen. Maou will transform again, stop her from killing him with a pinky finger and then saving her from her traitorous former comrades. Thus, she will fall desperately in love with him, and fight with Emilia over who gets to be his demon queen on Earth.
FelixZeroAlastor
Thu, 06-20-2013, 10:28 PM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 12 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=444729)
I thought this series was only going to be 12 episodes. Glad I was wrong.
This was the best episode yet. Great battle. My favorite part was the pose Maou did in his underwear. Poor Ashiya. Always late to the party.
Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-21-2013, 11:31 AM
[Commie] Hataraku Maou-sama! - 12 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=444729)
I thought this series was only going to be 12 episodes. Glad I was wrong.
It pretty much finished up here anyway. Just watched this show from start to here. Awesome comedy and Maou's badass when he needs to be. Just the workout-booster I needed.
One thing that didn't come up in the previous discussions (or I skim-and-missed-it) was that the landlord knew about magic and everything, but has left the apartment since then and we know nothing about her.
All the udon made me go eat a packet with some sauce that's been in the freezer for 1.5 years. So far so good...
When Lucifer baited the group to the school and we heard the story about a girl who got spirited away, I thought she was going to be the angel mother of Emi, but it looks like there are real angels.. so that theory doesn't really hold.
Kraco
Fri, 06-21-2013, 11:37 AM
Looks like Yusa already approves Maou. Well, aside from calling her flat. That's some strange trauma for somebody who has spent her life fighting, though. I guess it only began to bother her when she met Chiho and largely stopped fighting.
MFauli
Sat, 06-22-2013, 08:36 AM
I really hate how awesome this anime could have been if it had told a serious story, instead of being comedy.
But I can enjoy it now for what it is, no worries. Great episode, though I dont know what Olbaīs role was. Was he partnering up with Sariel?
Also, I reeeeeally hate the inquisition girl. There was no special reason for her to change sides now, and not before she killed innocent guys in the past. Class A bitch. Die.
KrayZ33
Sat, 06-22-2013, 09:21 AM
Suzuno is best
so cute! seriously!
*typo
MFauli
Sat, 06-22-2013, 09:41 AM
Suzano is best
so cute! seriously!
Random anime girl in random kimono.
Buffalobiian
Sat, 06-22-2013, 09:54 AM
But I can enjoy it now for what it is, no worries. Great episode, though I dont know what Olbaīs role was. Was he partnering up with Sariel?
He called the moon down, so yeah I'll consider that as teaming up with Sariel. Sariel's fighting the same enemies he was, so it makes sense for him to tag along for that, as well as the ride home.
I completely understand Lucifer. NEET > general any day. (except maybe zombie day)
KrayZ33
Sun, 06-23-2013, 06:50 AM
Random anime girl in random kimono.
silence
http://i.imgur.com/5tSMuVsl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vVUpetAl.jpg
Buffalobiian
Wed, 06-26-2013, 09:51 AM
Venting from a previous episode: Maou is right. Nothing wrong with Uniqlo. I'd so wear that on a date. >_>
(So come open a store in Australia already)
shinta|hikari
Wed, 06-26-2013, 10:56 AM
For here at least, it is overpriced crap.
People were lining up for its opening day, and that was one of the best laughs I've had for 27 years.
EDIT: To put this in perspective, some local seedy shops sell similar clothes for 1 USD or so a piece.
Inazuma
Wed, 06-26-2013, 11:40 AM
Uniqlo ?
Nigga please .. It is shit from Vietnam presented in a store with nice lighting. You can if you want, but you can do better.
Buffalobiian
Wed, 06-26-2013, 11:47 AM
Uniqlo ?
Nigga please .. It is shit from Vietnam presented in a store with nice lighting. You can if you want, but you can do better.
They're much better quality and price compared to Australian clothing shops. At least, the Hong Kong store was. I didn't look at a gigantic range though, only the jeans and cardigans that I was after. What I saw was pretty good, but the store overall may be as you guys say.
animus
Wed, 06-26-2013, 07:00 PM
I like Uniqlo, though I only get T-Shirts, OCBDs, and slim denim. I bought a pair of their white slim fit colored jeans and the fabric was thin so you could see the outline of the pockets which is a big ugly nono.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 06-27-2013, 08:49 PM
Episode 13: Commie (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=446915) | FFF (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=446906)
FelixZeroAlastor
Fri, 06-28-2013, 12:07 AM
That was a great last episode. I really liked that outfit Chiho was in while they were tailing Maou.
I am really hoping this anime did well enough to justify another season as there are quite a few things that were left up in the air.
Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-28-2013, 02:54 AM
That was a great last episode.
Hmm.. I dunno.. it felt mostly unnecessary. Personally I think this would have fitted better as the final 10 minutes of a final episode following the climactic battle. Then again, if I had to choose between whether this final ep existed or not (given that episode 12 ended the way it did), I would have taken this. Post-battle epilogues are always welcome.
The comedy still delivered like every other episode, so in that department this episode did fine.
I was expecting the guys to call out Sariel as the pervert who harassed them, but that didn't happen.
I agree the outfits were nice, even if I was looking at Hero's more.
Kraco
Fri, 06-28-2013, 03:25 AM
I don't really need another season of this. Just when Maou actually managed to get some badassery back in episode 12, in this episode he lost every bit of it, needing Hero's help to deal with some petty scammer. I have never seen so miserable demons, let alone Maou, in any work of fiction.
One thing I don't understand is how Lucifer is able to wreck their finances. Did Maou give him his credit card number or something? Surely Japan doesn't have some bizarre household system where all people living in the same house are mutually responsible for the financial difficulties of their housemates. That would make dormitories quite a nightmare, really.
Idealistic
Fri, 06-28-2013, 06:41 PM
What that was the last episode? Nothing happened, how is it the last? I thought it was just halfway through thus the new ending.
Buffalobiian
Fri, 06-28-2013, 09:30 PM
What that was the last episode? Nothing happened
That's why I said it would have been better as some 10-15minute epilogue.
KrayZ33
Sat, 06-29-2013, 05:57 AM
its supposed to be the end?
wow... nothing ever happened in the end - the anime.
thats the most boring ending I've ever seen so far
absolutely nothing has been resolved, at all..
horrible way to end a series which had such a promising background story
MFauli
Sat, 06-29-2013, 05:48 PM
what, thatīs the final episode?!
Surely thereīll be another one next week.
Either way, while I think this series wasted a perverse amount of potential, Iīve grown used to watching it, so Iīd like to have more seasons.
Buffalobiian
Sat, 06-29-2013, 08:43 PM
I suppose there are a few of you who expected this to be more than a "Culture_shock_+_Aspiring_Worker_Comedy_Anime".
Yukimura
Wed, 07-03-2013, 01:21 AM
I'm glad this is over and I'm not surprised that I had to find out this was the last ep from seeing the ep count online. I kept watching out of a combination of completionism and a modicum of hope that the fantasy elements of the story might actually come to some interesting resolution but it was never going to happen and I could have seen that from episode 2 or 3.
The show was always a slice of life comedy to the core and just happened to use fantasy tropes as an occasional source of conflict. The comedy fell outside my pleasure range for the vast majority of the show and while it certainly did have its moments for me on the whole I won't be missing it one bit.
Munsu
Sun, 02-16-2014, 01:57 AM
Just watched this series, and overall thought it ended up being a waste of time falling way short of its promise. If it gets a second season, not sure if I'll watch.
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