Robotics;Notes

[Archangel]

http://theakiba.com/images/2012/07/3363_robotics.jpg

Alternative Title: ロボティクス・ノーツ
Type: TV
Episodes: 22
Source: Visual Novel
Producers: Production I.G, FUNimation Entertainment
Genres: Sci-Fi

Synopsis: 2019, Divergence Ratio 1.048596. The near future, where a device popularly called the PokeCom, packaged with PhoneDroid OS, spreads, bringing the Augmented Reality world close to existence.

Chuuoutanegashima High School's Robot Research Club is in danger of losing its club status. Kaito Yashio, one of only two members, is only obsessed with robot fighting games, showing no interest in the Robo Club even in this situation. The reckless, useless club head, Akiho Senomiya, aims to complete a giant robot, struggling hard to avoid losing the club's status.

Then, one day, Kaito discovers the A.R. annotation that becomes the Kimishima Report. Written in that report is the indictment of someone named Kou Kimishima's conspiracy involving the world.

Resources: ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=14196) | AniDB (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=9128) | MyAnimeList (http://myanimelist.net/anime/13599/)

[Archangel]

[WhyNot] - Episode 01 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=361394), Episode 02 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=364044), Episode 03 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=366713)

[Ryllharu]

This is a good series. Unlike it's sister series' Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head, I like it right from the start. It's got charisma that those lacked. That seems to primarily be due to all the faces and reaction noises Aki makes. Or her unrelenting single-minded focus on her goals.

The two things that interest me the most are:
- What happened on the cruise ship with the red aurora, and how does that relates to the disease that Aki has?
- Why Aki's sister won't talk to her, and is it related to the first (like a survivor's guilt)?

I was also beginning to suspect that Kaito too has a form of the disease Aki has, but a more mild case that slows time for him just a bit, rather than speeding it up, which is why he's so good at the games. Turns out I was right. That would explain why Frau Koujiro thought he was cheating, even when she has access to her own code and very likely all kinds of server logs. Just like Aki's, it becomes progressively more debilitating with fatigue.

edit:
Was Misa's (Aki's sister) last line directed at Kaito regarding the mystery we don't know about, or the president guy regarding "The Committee"? I'd like to guess the former, but that might just be what they want us to think. Very ambiguous.

[Buffalobiian]

Was Misa's (Aki's sister) last line directed at Kaito regarding the mystery we don't know about, or the president guy regarding "The Committee"? I'd like to guess the former, but that might just be what they want us to think. Very ambiguous.

I think it's the former. The "Committee" could well be tracking people who have this "disease".

Good job on the whole disease/time-slow thing. It didn't really make too much sense to me (I assumed time slowed for him too and was surprised to see his fingers move at normal speed).

The addictive mix of a cute lead, expressions and never-say-die enthusiasm is pretty awesome.

[ASL]_Itou_Kanako_-_Robotics_Notes_ED_Theme_-_Sora_no_Shita_no_Soukanzu_[FLAC].rar (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=347106)
[ASL]_Itou_Kanako_-_Robotics_Notes_ED_Theme_-_Sora_no_Shita_no_Soukanzu_[MP3].rar (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=347107)

[ASL]_Zwei_-_ROBOTICS_NOTES_OP_Theme_-_Kakuchou_Place_[FLAC].rar (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=347108)
[ASL]_Zwei_-_ROBOTICS_NOTES_OP_Theme_-_Kakuchou_Place_[MP3].rar (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=347109)

[shinta|hikari]

I have always liked MCs who pretend to not care but try way too hard behind the scenes. I'm on this ride til the end.

[Archangel]

[ASL]_Zwei_-_ROBOTICS_NOTES_OP_Theme_-_Kakuchou_Place_[FLAC].rar (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=347108)
[ASL]_Zwei_-_ROBOTICS_NOTES_OP_Theme_-_Kakuchou_Place_[MP3].rar (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=347109)
Wtf, that's not the OP.

[Inazuma]

Episode 4 is really something - that new character might just do it for me.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 04 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=369474)


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Wtf, that's not the OP.

Hmm, you're right. I think that's the OP for the game or something.. :S

[Archangel]

Meh, the opening led me to believe the creator would be more of a flirtatious kind of girl. Instead, we get a social retard.

Not sure if want...

[Buffalobiian]

Meh, the opening led me to believe the creator would be more of a flirtatious kind of girl. Instead, we get a social retard.

Not sure if want...

Those were my impressions as well. I was hoping she'd spice things up here and there, but right now it's more like she just needs babysitting.. even if she's got high security, money and all.

[Archangel]

The whole "memetalk" aspect seems like something that'll get really old really fast. It's not like Christina cutely trying to hide it, this bitch has it at 100% all the time, autistic people aren't this anti-social.

[Ryllharu]

Indeed. Frau has been the first character I haven't liked in this series. Aki makes up for just about everyone else's minor foibles.

The store owner, she was paralyzed 15 years ago in an accident. At first I thought that would have put her in the same age range as Aki's sister, but Misaki seems younger than that. Unless it happened in middle school or something, when Kaito and Aki were still toddlers.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 05 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=371963)

[Ryllharu]

What is it with this company and making scientific organizations the head of an evil conspiracy? First CERN in Steins, and now NASA is evil.

I don't mind the solar flare disaster scenario or the fact that an agency is covering it up (perhaps to prevent worldwide panic), but how are our heroes going to stop this? How could the possibly stop this? Obviously using a giant robot, but that doesn't change the fact that stopping the sun from exploding, unless something small (like aliens) is causing it, is a very tall order. Those questions will keep me watching.

I like the idea of augmented reality characters, but is he going to be the only one to ever see her, or is she going to reveal herself to the others in the club?

Too many questions this episode, no answers!

[Buffalobiian]

Remind me, was it revealed in the episode why the MC is the one chosen for contact?

I'll be watching this, but the development's taken me by surprise. I was expecting a show about building robots (and not much else).


What is it with this company and making scientific organizations the head of an evil conspiracy? First CERN in Steins, and now NASA is evil.

Because they discover all these amazing things (and decide whether or not the world should know about it) ;)

[Ryllharu]

He was chosen because he was approximately the same age as the Airi program was supposed to be.

[shinta|hikari]

Aki no waki.

Hyperactive sleeveless heroines FTW.

[Buffalobiian]

WhyNot - Episode 06 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=374523)

[Buffalobiian]

The real OP

[Shin-S] Robotics;Notes OP Single - Junjou Spectra [Zwei].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376191)
[Shin-S] Robotics;Notes OP Single - Junjou Spectra (FLAC) [Zwei].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376338)

[Archangel]

The real OP

[Shin-S] Robotics;Notes OP Single - Junjou Spectra [Zwei].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376191)
[Shin-S] Robotics;Notes OP Single - Junjou Spectra (FLAC) [Zwei].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376338)
Yay~~~ <3

[Buffalobiian]

WhyNot - Episode 07 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376817)

[Archangel]

Frau's character seems to be more interesting and less annoying than anticipated, but recent development haven't been exactly keeping me in the edge of my seat.

Still don't know what to make of this show.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 08 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=379063)



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That Gendo followup was awesome.

And Kai confirmed to be weak against cute girls. (like most of us I suppose?)

[Ryllharu]

WhyNot - Robotics;Notes 09 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=381036)



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What a downright cruel episode.

Realistic and harsh. After nine years of work, they end up with robot that had been outdated for nine years. Maybe worse, because the hobby robots from her sister's time worked better.

Perhaps the most cruel were the words that her sister told her and said to her colleague. "Whatever you do, it'll always be ordinary," and, "It's quite different from my plans though. Just a pile of junk." I'm really beginning to wonder what happened to Misa during high school that turned her from an optimistic dreamer into what she's become today. It's probably related to Kimijima.

Frau was fun in this episode. She made advanced bots for her Poke-com, but she's truly enamored by Airi/Sister Centipede. We've never seen her quite that emotionally engaged before. She certainly seems to love her mother's anime as much as Akiho does, just in different ways.

[Archangel]

Onee-chan is pissing me off, what a fucking bitch.

[MFauli]

Question: Does the stuff Frau says in Japanese really translate into all this geek-lingo? lol, gtfo, wtf, etc. ?

[shinta|hikari]

Kinda. It is more like internet slang than geek lingo, though I do believe the two overlap as well.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 10 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=383221)

[Ryllharu]

The JAXA engineer (Tennouji) is absurdly cute. She's like Akiho's future self.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 11 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=385186)

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 12 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=391701)

[Archangel]

Years of awkwardness fixed in a single episode, yep that's anime.

[Ryllharu]

This one was better than most. Jun is still terrified of robots. Her hands were shaking (badly) and she still didn't get too close to the thing.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 13 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=394192)

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 14 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=396854)

[Archangel]

Frau's definitely not as bad as she first seemed to be.

[Inazuma]

I liked Frau and now I love her.
She has waifu potential but I still leave the VIP seating for Morgiana.

[Ryllharu]

Kona is pretty adorable. She had a single-minded focus to preserve her mother's name, reputation and legacy at all costs. Now she finally found a way to live for herself a little while still doing that, angry internet comments be damned.

It was endearing scene where she asked him to listen to her story while she laid on top of him, probably mostly so he look her in the face as she cried.

Her declaring her intentions right in front of Akiho was something else, something I didn't expect from her. She's crawled out of her shell in more ways that one. Akiho's confused (and literally hair-raising) freakout provided the perfect capstone for the episode.

Kai really goes all out for the two women he has a fondness for.


The brainwashing capabilities of the Committee is freaking scary. It was comprehensive and fast, and for all his assistance, they kill him anyway. Makes me wonder what will keep the main cast safe from them. Hard to trust anyone not in their immediate circle, and that includes Airi or the store manager.

[Buffalobiian]

Kona's definitely grown out of her "I use geek-speak for the lulz only" character from the viewer's perspective, I still rank her behind the Jun, who is behind Aki.

[Archangel]

Kona's definitely grown out of her "I use geek-speak for the lulz only" character from the viewer's perspective, I still rank her behind the Jun, who is behind Aki.

Jun us about as interesting as a bag of rocks.

[Ryllharu]

Jun us about as interesting as a bag of rocks.

Indeed.

How can you [Buff] like Jun at all? She sucks at everything she does, doesn't have that much of a personality either.

[Buffalobiian]

Jun us about as interesting as a bag of rocks.

It's not about interest. It's about IMPACT.

edit:


She sucks at everything she does

moe?

[Archangel]

New type of moe, failure moe. She sucks at everything so much it's cute?

[Inazuma]

Not in our world it isn't.
I think the whole idea is the Ganbatte! girl who tires hard and failure is essential in order for her to keep trying hard.

[Buffalobiian]

New type of moe, failure moe. She sucks at everything so much it's cute?

You have to suck at something to be moe.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 15 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=399291)

[Xelbair]

why kona had BIOS opened on all those monitors? and such old one?

[Buffalobiian]

why kona had BIOS opened on all those monitors? and such old one?

because they crashed?

[Archangel]

Why couldn't they do a back up for Airi?

[Buffalobiian]

Why couldn't they do a back up for Airi?

I'm guessing it's because they don't know where her program or code resides. She was external to their pokecoms, which in turn seem to have mostly client terminal functionality.

[Archangel]

I'm guessing it's because they don't know where her program or code resides. She was external to their pokecoms, which in turn seem to have mostly client terminal functionality.
Hmmm yes... i recognize some of these words.

I'll take it at face value since it's clearly outside my area of expertise.

[Buffalobiian]

Hmmm yes... i recognize some of these words.

I'll take it at face value since it's clearly outside my area of expertise.

Iri seems to be some program covertly running in the Iru-O service that Kimijima Kou created. The people running it now (since he's dead) shouldn't know it exists, so it wouldn't be something they'd back up before they do a reboot even if they knew about it.

Poke-coms also seem to be things that merely display and receive information that is being fed by the Iru-O server, so I don't see them having the ability to trace Iri back to her source or anything fancy like that.

edit: I should correct myself and say that the Iru-O program on Poke-coms seem to be clients-only. The poke-com itself is a standalone system.

[Xelbair]

I mean why her PC's still use BIOS from decade ago instead of modern ones?

[Ryllharu]

Because it gets the job done. People still use COBOL and FORTRAN. Maybe she also trusts it more.


Is anyone else starting to get the feeling that the Kimijima reports are achieving some secret, nefarious list of tasks in the event that Kimijima died and couldn't do it himself? That Kai is unwittingly helping some plan succeed?

I mean, sure, there are a lot of harmless bullshit time trials that he's mostly achieved through cheating, but there was also that radar dish that brought down the monopole.

Again, sure, the kids are using it to power their giant robot that's built for fun...but it still did something bizarre that shouldn't be happening. Who knows what other events are happening thanks to some satellite + Iro-O combination set off by the geotags being lit in a specific order.

Kimijima has all sorts of huge computer systems making beeps or holding frozen girls, that are amazingly still powered years after his death. Who knows what he might have a hidden one doing. Kaito could be setting off this whole disaster, tricked by a bunch of bullshit text in the reports which are backed up by contingencies that Kimijima set up a while ago.

At first I thought Iri and and Sister Centipede were in on it too, the former especially because she drops someone's guard, but that seems to not be the case. The latter may still be true.

[Buffalobiian]

But then why have Report No. 7 in existence if Airi has no idea where to find it, and to have it remain unopened till now without any prerequisites other than the previous 6 reports?

I can't think of Kimijima Kou as a bad guy right this moment, but your theory does give a point to the seemingly senseless trials.

[Ryllharu]

Like I said, buried in my rambling post, the reports would be garbage to trick the person completing the tasks (which are also mostly garbage) into continuing. Occasionally, the reports would be backed up by part of an action so it seems real. Like, dropping one monopole to earth while creating thousands or something.

That doesn't quite fly with the robot revolution though, since whoever it was specifically targeted at Kona to rattle her (and to provoke her mother if she is still alive). Kou wouldn't have known she would turn into a hacker/programmer.

[Buffalobiian]

Like I said, buried in my rambling post, the reports would be garbage to trick the person completing the tasks (which are also mostly garbage) into continuing. Occasionally, the reports would be backed up by part of an action so it seems real. Like, dropping one monopole to earth while creating thousands or something.

But Number 7 has no task. If the report itself is just nonsense used for completing tasks, Kou could have made just the first six.

[Ryllharu]

Maybe Kimijima ran out of ideas for stupid distracting shit for them to do. More importantly, it's the last report, perhaps all the dirty work is already done with report 6. Report 7 is just a victory lap.

[Inazuma]

Episode 16 :
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Robotics;Notes you win this time.

[Xelbair]

Indeed, this ep was great. can't wait for next one.

[Buffalobiian]

WTF just happened..

[MFauli]

WTF

Worst episode of an anime ever! This was Naruto-post time skip levels of stupid.

Not only did it feel extremely forced for Subaru to not move out of the way (he was running fine alongside the walking robot, would have been no problem to evade), but that girl falling off the cliff? No, this episode wasnt able to suspend my disbelief of how it´s not even remotely possible for those scrawny, small-tech cyborg-legs to be THAT powerful. That´s also dismissing the LOL I had when Kai decided to lift her off the ground and throw her down, attempting to break her back, instead of just, ya know, pushing her over.
And then those legs keep dragging both of them along. LOL.
And even IF the legs were that strong, Kai could have just held her in a way these fixed-positioned legs couldnt properly touch the ground.
Ugh. There´s so many ways he could have saved her.
Fucking bullshit.

[Inazuma]

I am not used to animu people dying.

There, there, there ... Even if I agree with you that Kai could have done better you should just see what this is for what is truly is : scenaristic death.
The writer needed something like this to happen, he needed the surprise, the pain, the furrowed brows, the rage it would induce. It's a mental leap of faith, but we as viewer just have to take it hoping it's not a deus ex machina leading to a hollow revelation.

[Ryllharu]

I take back what I said earlier. Kimijima has to still be alive, or otherwise some facsimile brain-download of him just like Airi. Mizuka was actively trying to stop Kai from activating the 7th report, likely the key that activates some disaster. The moment she got in the way of whatever plan this is, the Kagome-Kagome call started on both of their, and only their, pokecoms. It wasn't just some freak accident, whoever is in control deliberately targeted Mizuka. I'm willing to be that if Kai had picked up instead of her, it still would have commandeered her legs.

The monopoles are actively raining down on the island, that has to be a result of Kai's actions on the earlier reports. The radar dome brought one, now more are falling as he's progressed through the reports. Kimijima wanted Kai to hit the proverbial red button, it will make sure others get in the way.

Aside from the conspiracy drama, I was surprised that Junna noticed the robot was sticking while the others did not at first. I bet all that time she spent at her grandfather's shop before she got traumatized gave her intimate knowledge on robotic movement. As much as she is afraid of them, she still really loves robots, and pays close attention.

I bet she manages to stick out one of the arms, breaking the fall and saving Subaru.


edit:

that girl falling off the cliff? No, this episode wasnt able to suspend my disbelief of how it´s not even remotely possible for those scrawny, small-tech cyborg-legs to be THAT powerful. That´s also dismissing the LOL I had when Kai decided to lift her off the ground and throw her down, attempting to break her back, instead of just, ya know, pushing her over.
And then those legs keep dragging both of them along. LOL.
And even IF the legs were that strong, Kai could have just held her in a way these fixed-positioned legs couldnt properly touch the ground.
Ugh. There´s so many ways he could have saved her.
Fucking bullshit.
You are an absolute moron.

Do you realize how much weight legs like that need to lift? The entire body. So we're talking bare minimum 120 lbs (54kg). But I'll bet they don't make custom legs. They make mass produced ones for either men or women, and adjust them accordingly afterward. So we're talking 240 lbs (108 kg) rated legs for the average woman. Then the legs have to support their own weight in addition to that. The real life version of this, the HAL-5 exoskeleton, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_5) weighs 22 lbs (10 kg). The fifth gen. The first gen weighed over 49 lbs (22 kg) just for the battery. The DARPA funded military exoskeleton (HULC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Universal_Load_Carrier)) weighs 53 lbs (24 kg) and this exoskeleton only assists in translating the weight of a pack more directly into the ground instead of burdening the muscles and bones of the wearer. Still, the HULC most accurately matches what Mizuka's legs look like, albeit with less power.

So her legs probably add 50-70 lbs (22-31 kg) of weight to her body. These legs weigh a lot, and have some substantial power in their servo systems to allow her to stand.

That's why Kai struggled to flip her over, that's why the legs were capable of breaking her back. So no, there wasn't a whole lot Kai could do unless he could break the exoskeleton off of her body. Which he tried, which the phantom bad guys evidently planned for by making the power, safety, and engagement systems are tied to the software instead of hardware.

Should they have had safety hardware preventing spinal fractures? Yes. Should they have an emergency hardware latch allowing for the unit to be taken off rapidly in the event of an emergency? Hell yes.

Were they deliberately both not installed or disabled by Misaki? Quite possibly. That's the double-edge to Mizuka's last words. She knew it was Misaki who did it, or at least Kai will use it to guilt Misaki into switching sides. Evidently, what just happened made Mizuka think of the boat accident that gave Aki and Kai their respective rare Elephant Mouse syndromes. Mizuka figured out that Misaki was a little bit more directly involved than she thought.

[MFauli]

@Inazuma:

The "You´re not used to animu people dying"-line is actually what I was thinking. To me it appeared as if the weird praise for tihs episode came from "oh look, people died. That is SO brave of the authors of this show!" Yeah, except it´s not.



You are an absolute moron.

Right back at you.

Are we to believe that these tiny support-legs weigh that much? I already forgot about that short flashback in the beginning since I couldnt care less about this random female character, but was she even completely disabled? Afaik only one of her legs took severe damage. But anyhow, unless this anime suddenly turned super-far-future-scifi, there is NO way I´ll ignore the laws of physics and accept such a fragile machine aka such fine, thin support-legs that can carry your whole body, with a force big enough to overwhelm even a second person. It´s nonsense. It´s forced. And thus badly presented.

[Ryllharu]

Try actually reading my post. Or actually follow any of those links.

These types of things already exist in real life. They're heavy. You try to claim that the weight and mechanical power available to those legs is unbelievable, when you don't know jack shit about the component that would make them work. The HULC (http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/mfc/photo/hulc/mfc-hulc-photo-01-h.jpg) has very slender supports, but strong actuators. The HAL-5, made in Japan (http://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/robotsuithal/index.html) will support someone's entire body.
(Btw, new links in this post, now to the individual manufacturer's sites)

There are linear actuators out there today, not 2019 like the series takes place in, that aren't more than 6 inches long retracted, and exert over 165 lbs of force EACH (http://www.firgelliauto.com/product_info.php?cPath=82&products_id=34). Their static load capacity (holding in place) is twice that, 330 lbs. Each side of those legs probably has three of those, one for the hips, one for the knees, and one for the ankles. That alone would easily overcome two people.

But you're also forgetting that Mizuka is paralyzed. She was in a motorcycle crash, probably broke her back then. Paralyzed from the waist down. She can't move her legs. The only thing stopping her was Kai. One person can't easily hold back 600+ pounds of force (6 total actuators).

And yes, steel tubes, much less solid steel pieces, are strong. Apparently this is news to you.

So yeah, you're not only a moron, you're a willfully ignorant moron, talking out of your ass.

[animus]

That was quite the beat down. I was actually going to post that there are some shitty servo's out there that I think could support a decent amount of weight already (though I don't know the specifics).

[Archangel]

I more or less agree with Ryllharu on this one, there was some serious power behind that machinery and it wouldn't be such as easy task to stop it. It wouldn't however be impossible either.

It's just a matter of being smart on what force you're using, bodyslam her sideways and without any help from the upper body there's no straight movement anymore. After that hold her upside down ( this might be trickier given the weight of the legs but really it would be more of a precaution than anything else ) and move her the fuck away from the canyon.

Only argument available for how this turned out is how some people crack under pressure, and even then i'm telling you this is some forced drama shit for the sake of the audience's ignorance.

Edit: Oh, and who the fuck sees high winds and thinks its a good idea to take their giant robot for a test drive? The stupidity around this episode in general was off the charts.

[MFauli]

Ryll, that first example of your´s, the military one, is exactly what I meant. You can claim however you want, but this kind of legs would not be able to do what happened in this latest episode of Robotics;Notes. Just because they look similar doesn´t mean they function the same way. Those military support-legs are doing exactly that ... supporting what´s already there.

And I wasn´t even talking about the necessary strength. What about balance? You NEED bigger devices to balance out a human body, and you need even more mass to counter the impact of another person. Ever seen the DARPA Dog? That´s a massive machine, has four legs and isn´t bound to an annoying human body. And it barely manages to auto-balance by making big steps and stuff. The legs in Robotics; Notes didnt move a centimeter. It´s nonsense.

Now please continue calling me a moron. Or actually try to understand my complaints. Whatevs.

[Ryllharu]

Those military support-legs are doing exactly that ... supporting what´s already there.

Now please continue calling me a moron.
I will, these kind of statements are why you are a moron. Do you seriously not see the parallels? Stand one one leg. Make it more pronounced by closing your eyes. Figure out what helps you with balance. It's mostly the foot, but the rest of the body also does work. Boston Dynamics' DOG doesn't compare, it is a different body type and isn't an exoskeleton.

It's not that your complaints that Kai couldn't stop her aren't valid. I agree with Arch.

The problem is your reasoning for why that scene was a bad one is garbage. The legs are more than capable of doing what they did. On the other hand, Kai could have done a lot more to stop it. Also, not standing around for three minutes thinking she was walking away in a huff while she was clearly panicked at what was happening.

[animus]

On the high wind point, with how much the robot weighs it's a bit unbelievable how it could tip over at all even while in motion. If winds were that strong, none of those girls would still be standing much less Koujirou. It's not like the robot tipped forward while in motion, it tipped over sideways. If it was a freak accident of the wind it's a bit unbelievable. But if it was some outside source making the robot fall over it would be more believable.

[Archangel]

It can't be that heavy, that was one of the main points when they were building it.

It was a fairly large flat surface hit by a surprisingly strong and sudden force of wind, i don't think it's that unbelievable.

[Buffalobiian]

Let's refrain from calling people morons. Anime characters are okay though.

Missed this discussion yesterday, but I'm 100% in agreement with Arch. Don't lift - side tackle. Unless those legs have some crazy auto-balance feature, they'd fall. They also shouldn't be able to get up like that.

Given how determined those legs were though, I was totally expecting them to kick Kai out of the way.

Ryll: The amount of load the current machines can carry is cool, but how much forward drive are they capable of? Kai wasn't sitting on them - he was actively pushing them.

@Ryll: regarding your comment about Jun noticing the robot's quirky movement, I thought it had more to do with her Karate background and the fact that her own movement is what the robot tries to imitate. It's her area of expertise, if you will.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 17 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=404164)

[Archangel]

It's the future, can't they even tell if a file is .txt or .exe? xD

[Buffalobiian]

It's the future, can't they even tell if a file is .txt or .exe? xD

Kai's pokecom had "Hide extentions of known file types" enabled.

Or in the future the file will execute it's native file type without needing the correct extention

Alternatively, Sister Centipede skipped the "Executing the following file may harm your computer. Only allow files from trusted sources to be executed. Do you wish to continue?"

[Inazuma]

Fuck you guys, I uploaded files to 3 billion terminals over wifi and under a minute. U mad ?

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 18 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=406462)

[Archangel]

Here's hoping he shot the bitch dead.

[Buffalobiian]

Here's hoping he shot the bitch dead.

No way! We need to hear her end of the story first. Then.. maybe then.. but that would make Aki sad, so I'd rather she just made up with her instead.

What I'm surprised about is that the rest of the robot club didn't come to see GunPro2.

[Ryllharu]

There's really only two possibilities if Misaki is getting shot at by the Exoskeleton guy.

a) She's working to complete Kimijima's master plan, whether that be good or evil.
b) She's working to stop Kimijima's master plan, whether that be good or evil.

It's really hard to figure out who the bad guys are here. I'm pretty sure the Exoskeleton guy is working for the Council of Ultra Evil. What isn't clear is what side Kimijima was on, and which side Misaki is on.

If she was asking about the rocket launch though...I would say that she is trying to stop the pending apocalypse.

Argrh! I'm so confused about who to hate!


But what I really enjoy about this series is the interludes of:
Akiho's Adventures in Building Robots While She Isn't Very Good at It.

Kai has been keeping her out of the whole conspiracy thing, so she gets to live her life, trying to fulfill her good-hearted dreams. In this episode, it finally paid off. Even if the general populace hates Gunvarrel, Ahiko got one little boy to love it again and tell her it was cool.

[shinta|hikari]

People are too easily swayed by media and rumours. Unfortunately, even 2d people share this flaw.

[MFauli]

Even if Misaki´s excuse is something along the lines of "I did it to keep you safe", I wish that bitch all the worst. If I was Kai, I´d have slapped that cunt countless times during this episodes. Especially when she repeated her "Aki is ordinary"-bullshit inside the car. Goddamn, Kai, grow some balls and torture this horrible person.

As for the robo expo, I kinda hoped that the spider robot would go loose and then the Gunvarrel would step in to fight it. Guess that was too much to hope for. :)

[Ryllharu]

Speaking of the giant spider robot...it is interesting to note that it was a fake. They had a girl on the outside pantomiming, claiming it was controlled by just a pair of hands, while Misaki was (presumably) inside, suited up, actually controlling it.

Maybe Kona's control system is quite a bit more advanced than we thought.

[Buffalobiian]

Speaking of the giant spider robot...it is interesting to note that it was a fake. They had a girl on the outside pantomiming, claiming it was controlled by just a pair of hands, while Misaki was (presumably) inside, suited up, actually controlling it.

Maybe Kona's control system is quite a bit more advanced than we thought.

Was that the case?

I thought Misaki was controlling the spider initially as well, but then the idea of using a fake concept robot seemed a bit risky, so I thought instead that she was perhaps involved with some other, more sinister, robotic project.

[Ryllharu]

Nice to be both partially correct and still horribly wrong. I greatly enjoy shows that do that.

Robotics;Notes - 19 [WhyNot] (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=408770)



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So Misa wasn't there, and she was controlling the giant spider remotely. She's working for the Council of Ultra Evil, working for Kimijima, and they're going to launch black hole generators (made by evil-CERN from Steins) to set off some simulated solar flare that will impact (and likely kill) 5 billion people. Meanwhile, they're been manipulating everything.

But the bigger news, to me, isn't that Kou has turned himself into an immortal ghost, it is that Kona is "Target B".

That either means Kona's mother is working for them, feigning being a victim the same way Kimijima was and they are "securing" Kona to keep her safe, or the Council of Ultra Evil is trying to lure her out using Kona as bait because they need whatever she took to complete their plan.

Going by how wrong I was this time (thinking that the Exoskeleton guy was evil...just as they planned ku ku ku), I think it is better for me not to guess definitively.

The major reason I like Robotics;Notes' conspiracy side so much is its plausibility. Barring a few magical technologies (radiation generators that produce illusions in reality that look as real as Iro-O, monopole engines, micro-black hole generators, etc.), most of the propaganda and manipulation tactics the Council of Ultra Evil is doing this time can be done today. They're really just scamming the news, blackmailing and extorting a few others, using a few false flag attacks to scare people, and then once they get the reaction they want...going about their nefarious business.

[Buffalobiian]

Well, now I get to see if this climax will be worth the previous 19 episodes. They were interesting and enjoyable at parts, but also hard to follow (not necessarily in an intellectual way) in their own right.

Just why would you black-out half the planet?

[Ryllharu]

It's an attack. They make it seem like a horrible tragedy has occurred, probably reduce the population substantially, and this will allow them to brainwash whoever is left alive (something they have tested multiple times) and assume control as an authoritarian oligarchy.

World domination.

I guess I kind of wonder exactly what happened on the SS Anemone that made Misaki believe that joining up was the correct thing to do. Was she brainwashed too, or did she have an epiphany and turn to evil?

Is S Braun supposed to be Nae? I'm guessing the codename "Braun" is supposed to refer to rocketry. Maybe "S" for "shoujo"?

I for one, am looking forward to a mecha fight between the secretly built JAXA Gunbuste Gunvarrel and the other ArachnidBot. Akiho cheering at the sidelines yelling out attacks with tears dripping down her face would be excellent.

[Buffalobiian]

Is S Braun supposed to be Nae? I'm guessing the codename "Braun" is supposed to refer to rocketry. Maybe "S" for "shoujo"?

S Braun is referring to Nae. You know, as in daughter of Mr Braun.

[Ryllharu]

I like my version better.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 20 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=411187)

[Shin-S] Robotics;Notes ED2 Single - Topology (FLAC) [Itou Kanako].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=411201)
[Shin-S] Robotics;Notes ED2 Single - Topology [Itou Kanako].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=411202)

[Archangel]

I guess that's why both the VN and the anime sold so poorly, the characters and the light hearted aspect of it all are fine but the more serious tones are flimsy as fuck.

Can't compare to S;G at all.

[shinta|hikari]

Do you mean S;G? Because you can't really compare Robotics;Notes to itself.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm certainly not feeling the despair of the situation, nor the "epicness" of how the the island banded together to help defeat the armed forces.

Topping the list is why Misaki felt threatened in the first case. Kimijima was running an experiment that could have killed a whole cruiser full of people. Letting the public know that shouldn't have any adverse effect on her.

The only "real" problem is that you can't kill Kimijima Kou's online persona.. so his harassment isn't going to stop.

[Ryllharu]

I think you're misunderstanding how he was torturing her.

Misaki is, or was, a good person (at least Akiho still thinks so). Kimijima was constantly mentally torturing her about being a murderer. He always making her feel guilty about the method used to save them, when there very likely had been a less violent way she could have stopped it. Then, it was when he started manifesting in front of other people and threatening to "haunt" Akiho and Kai while she continued to resist. That last part is what finally broke Misaki and made her submit. Over the next ten years, he continued to harass and torture her mentally. That's a huge amount of time to mentally condition a person. At some point, she basically got brainwashed, and believes in his cause.

This has conditioned Misaki into generally doing what he wants, and over time, allowed him to take her body over (as he did with real-Airi on a more rudimentary level). Kimijima implied that when Misaki mentally withdraws, he has full control over her. But unlike Airi, he currently has a backup with Misaki. The exoskeleton suit she's wearing now (probably one he "encouraged" her to wear during this operation) is something he can control directly through Iru-O, like Mizuka's legs. Now that they are doing things that Misaki might actively want to resist, he can just force her to do them. He also mentioned that the more she resists his control, she might actually damage her mental state, showing how pervasive his control and conditioning over her has become.

You could probably shut off all of Iru-O and reset all the data to a raw state. Or maybe Kona will make a virus that will chase him down and delete his data.

[MFauli]

As I said in my previous post, none of this excuses the big sister´s behavior towards Aki. Unless Kimikima told her to tell Aki exactly those words "you´re plain", she´s a bitch, fullstop.

As for the episode, I agree with Buff. Lack of epicness. It felt way too random how all the characters gathered there at the robot building. The producers never spent any significant development on all those characters to make me feel "whoah!". Unlike for example Durararara, where all came together extremely well.

Nice, but average anime, all in all. Waiting for Misaki-hentai. :>

[Buffalobiian]

I think you're misunderstanding how he was torturing her.

Misaki is, or was, a good person (at least Akiho still thinks so). Kimijima was constantly mentally torturing her about being a murderer. He always making her feel guilty about the method used to save them, when there very likely had been a less violent way she could have stopped it. Then, it was when he started manifesting in front of other people and threatening to "haunt" Akiho and Kai while she continued to resist. That last part is what finally broke Misaki and made her submit. Over the next ten years, he continued to harass and torture her mentally. That's a huge amount of time to mentally condition a person. At some point, she basically got brainwashed, and believes in his cause.


I was suggesting that it should never have gotten to that point. She should have let the police handle the aftermath since I would have seen her actions as excused anyway - unless she saw that as being futile because she believed he was immortal. (Understandable.. since someone you killed is kinda standing in front of you). Now that I think about it a bit more, perhaps she saw no way of proving Kimijima's existence to anyone since she doesn't actually know where he hides his data.

Perhaps I'm simply not as kind as Misaki. If someone gets killed for attempted murder, they had it coming.

The suit's control makes sense, no debate about that.

[MasterOfMoogles]

Was there ever any reason given for why this guy wants to kill 5 billion people?

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 21 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=413389)

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@Moogles: World domination.

Contrary to the previous episode, this one was actually pretty good. Had the right feel and everything.

Should Airi be walking around? I thought she had a condition that kept her confined to an indoor bed, and since she woke up I do not recall her going through surgery that could fix it.

[MFauli]

i really hate how this series is being concluded during these final episodes. It was really enjoyable just watching the Robo club trying to build their robot. This world destroying-plot feels so extremely forced. It doesnt help that this last episode felt like a compilation of all anime clichees/tropes that exist.

I haven´t seen Steins;Gate, yet, but Chaos;Head did a way better job of telling a consistent, if crazy, story. Robotics;Notes feels as if the author decided to put in all the "epic" stuff in the last 3-4 episodes.

[MasterOfMoogles]

Destroying 5/6th of the world seems like a pretty bad idea for a guy who relies on the internet to exist.

[Ryllharu]

That was kind of the point of that scene wasn't it? It might even have been the most important scene that episode.

Airi asked him why he is doing all this, and he replied "because I want to complete the experiment." So she asked him why he wanted to do that, and he paused, confused for a split second, then chuckled as if it was obvious and said, "because I want to complete the experiment."

He has less free will than Misaki, even less free will than Sister Centipede, who displayed emergent behavior at the end. He's a ghost, maybe not even that. He's just an out of control Do-While loop.

He can't really think for himself, he can just complete his ordained task. He's forced to.

[Buffalobiian]

Whynot - Episode 22 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=415591)

[MasterOfMoogles]

Overall, I felt like this show wasted a lot of potential. There were just so many problems, plot holes, and unexplained things.

The protagonist is so unlikable for the majority of the show, not wanting to do anything but play Kill-Balad.
The master plan for the villain doesn't make sense.
They never actually show the robot club building the robot. They just suddenly finish it one day for the first one, and then for the others it seems like JAXA basically comes in and builds it for them.
Monopoles falling from the sky? So random... And they just leave the monopoles out in a field for a few episodes. It is like the scientific discovery of the century and they don't tell anyone.
The Kimijima reports? They appeared to basically serve no purpose and were just an excuse for the protagonist to go around wasting time. Please don't tell me the master plan actually required someone to go solve the puzzles.
Missiles that use AR for guidance?!?!? That makes no sense and was really stupid. I would want my missiles to hit REAL things.
How is Kimijima supposed to be controlling Aki's sister? Mind control through the internet? The power suit makes sense, but the brainwashing, not so much.
We deleted Kimijima from the internet so now our rocket control panel is completely unlocked, hurray!

At least Kai deleted Kill-Ballad after he finally realized that giant robots are awesome.

I had high hopes for this show after Steins;Gate, but it really didn't stand up nearly as well. The characters just don't hold a candle to the Steins;gate cast (Kai vs. Hououin Kyouma, really?) and the plot seemed poorly written in comparison.

Still better than some of the stuff this season, but I just wanted it to be much better.

/endrant

[Buffalobiian]

I still don't know what happened with Frau's mum. :S

Did she survive, or not?

[MFauli]

Too much bs-anime drama at the end :/

Aki driving her scooter towards the killer robot, making her sister regain consciousness. ugh

As I wrote in my previous posting, they was no proper build-up for all this We´re being shown a world where robots are slow, bulky, functional. And then it ends with a full-on mecha-action-anime robot, who´s transforming from the defeated outer shell. lol

I dont want to write more, so ill leave it at that.
Just one more thing: The best part of this anime were Misa-neechan´s boobs. Kai, you chose wrong.

[shinta|hikari]

Aki showed more waki. Kai chose right.

[animus]

The first 2/3rds of this anime were so good. The last 3rd not so much.

[Ryllharu]

The only lingering issue that bothers me is the unknown fate of Kona's mother.

I still enjoyed the hell out of it. Aki and Kona were great characters, even though I hated the latter at first.

The thing about Kai being a total asshole at first is alleviated by the fact that he does one thing without fail: protect's Aki's happiness. He's loved her since they were kids, and protects her at all costs when it counts. Most of his actions were to keep her from ever getting upset or sad. He was hopelessly devoted to Aki and Aki alone. He might try to play being aloof from time to time, but Aki's happiness always came first.

Helping out Kona was just a side-thing. Still, I doubt she'd be that upset being relegated to his mistress. Aki probably would object though, so Kai would follow her lead as always.