Magi

[Sapphire]

http://puu.sh/1fapM/fc00fca23c6b959654feb0029dbcca94

Alternative Titles — Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic, マギ

Type: TV
Episodes: ?
Source: Manga
Producers: Aniplex, A-1 Pictures, Aniplex of America
Genres: Action, Adventure, Fantasy, Shounen

Synopsis: This story is about the flow of fate and the battle to keep the world on the right path. Aladdin is a boy who has set out to explore the world after being trapped in a room for most of his life. His best friend is a flute with a djinn in it named Ugo. Soon enough, Aladdin discovers he is a Magi, a magician who chooses kings, and he was born to choose kings who will follow the righteous path, battling against those who want to destroy fate. Follow his adventures as he meets others from 1000 Arabian Nights, like Ali Baba and Sinbad, and fights to keep the balance of world in check!

Resources: ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=14395) | AniDB (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=9268) | MyAnimeList (http://myanimelist.net/anime/14513/Magi)

GotWoot — 01 (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BGotWoot%5D_Magi_-_01_%5B36529B86%5D.mkv.torrent)
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[David75]

Watch both eps as they came out.
Nice feel to it, it's not mind blowing, but nice.

[Kraco]

You know a main character has his priorities right when he likes to eat lots of good food and fondle breasts as a dessert.

This looks like a jolly show based on the two first episodes. I hope Morgiana joins the main gang soon; she seems interesting in the broken character kind of way.

[Ryllharu]

It's refreshingly entertaining in its simplicity (and I'm a sucker for journey/adventure shows), but it's not so completely good natured in the exposition. Noticeably matter of fact depiction of slavery, the sharif happily poking slaves in the back over and over, Alibaba and Morgiana repeatedly valuing his own lives over their principles, and Aladdin displaying early symptoms of starvation (not rousing when moved), etc.

The gags and use of deformed animation are at all the right points, and the combat has been okay so far.

It's one of those shows you don't have to think too hard about while enjoying it.

[shinta|hikari]

I like this so far, but the poking really bothered me. I really thought that the big oaf was killed after getting stabbed over and over, but then he reappears in the next scene without a scratch. The same goes for Ali Baba's arm.

[Archangel]

Episode 3 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=365299)

I freaking love Morgiana's design.

I've been following the manga chapters after watching the episode and it seems they've been skipping a few non essential but interesting details. I'll definitely be reading it once this is over since there's a 0% chance for a second season.

[Sapphire]

Episode 3 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=365299)

I freaking love Morgiana's design.

I've been following the manga chapters after watching the episode and it seems they've been skipping a few non essential but interesting details. I'll definitely be reading it once this is over since there's a 0% chance for a second season.

GotWoot -03v2 - http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=365522

Fix'd that for you.

[Archangel]

http://i.imgur.com/YreK7.jpg

Yeah... no.

[Sapphire]

We honestly don’t care if you watch our release or not, or if you’re offended— but that doesn’t mean we’re going to be wrong for the sake of being wrong. We learn from our mistakes and FAQ#7 is some true shit.

Changes include Ammon -> Amon; removing Islamic references but keeping Arabic ones; and fixing some errors in the karaoke.

TL Notes & Discussion: Haters (http://notredreviews.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/magi-03-notes-and-the-like/) gunna hate (http://notredreviews.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/re-islamic-phrases-in-magi/).

http://notredreviews.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/magi-03-notes-and-the-like/

http://notredreviews.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/re-islamic-phrases-in-magi/

http://www.gotwoot-subs.net/?p=4155

[Archangel]

We honestly don’t care if you watch our release or not
Good, i won't watch them then.

[Archangel]

[gg] - Episode 04 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=367904)

I like this show but the production values are abysmally low. I also didn't get enough Morgiana this episode so that sucked.

[Inazuma]

This episode was okay, but also it's only a big warmup for the next. I opened up a can of coke when the happy ending came around - boy did I spit coke on my screen on the final 15sec of the episode.

[Kraco]

This episode was okay, but also it's only a big warmup for the next. I opened up a can of coke when the happy ending came around - boy did I spit coke on my screen on the final 15sec of the episode.

I was all the time thinking it was going far too smoothly, especially since we know the princess's camp is polluted by the scumbag general. If the man could behave like that in front of the princess, then there's no reason he couldn't act behind her back to make sure there will be a war. I reckon the slavers were his direct underlings or associates. He creates war that creates slaves that create profit. Thus, as long as he's around, there won't be happy endings.

It remains to be seen if the Yellow Fang is merciful enough to forgive the princess. In the end, the douche general is technically under her service, so she's responsible for his deeds as well, whether she knows anything of them or not.

[Kraco]

Episode 5 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=370682)




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Hah. When the general was telling how much he loves war and can't get enough of it, his voice immediately started to ring bells in my mind, and, lo and behold, he's voiced by Hellsing Ultimate's Major. Those lines could have been straight from Hellsing, as well. They surely chose the right man to voice act this dude.

Other than that, there was even less of Morgiana in this episode than in the previous! She only appeared in the preview, but at least it looks like the next ep will be hers.

[Uchiha Barles]

This show is starting to remind me a bit of the twelve kingdoms. It looks like the story is going to span a number of different areas in the world, you're going to watch a character or two become royalty, and you're going to see allegiances form between them. Those things, together with the lack of missteps make me a little excited to see the show progress. And um...Morgianna's thighs.

[shinta|hikari]

Morgiana isn't wearing any underwear, right?

[Archangel]

No-pan redhead slave girls are my fetish.

[shinta|hikari]

What a specific fetish.

[Kraco]

What a specific fetish.

It might be specific, but it's at least highly understandable. Although she's a former slave at this point.

[Kraco]

Episode 6 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=372852)






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There's no limit to Morgiana's power, especially when she remembers she's no longer a slave. Now she even added fus ro dah to her repertoire of fighting skills. Alibaba should try to keep her close if he intends to be made a king by Aladdin.

[Uchiha Barles]

Guess everyone's Morgianna addiction was sated this episode. Not even much Aladdin or any Ali Baba to detract from those scrumptious lower extremities.

[Xelbair]

It was more like Berserker's roar than Fus Ro Dah.

[shinta|hikari]

I love how fierce she looks when fighting. She was even smiling while destroying her enemies. It serves as a nice gap between her usual expressionless face. It also shows her roots as a warrior clan descendant.

[Ryllharu]

She killed those tigers in under 20 seconds. Not wounded, killed. It shows you just how much she was holding back against Aladdin and Alibaba in the dungeon.

[Archangel]

She killed those tigers in under 20 seconds. Not wounded, killed. It shows you just how much she was holding back against Aladdin and Alibaba in the dungeon.
Well she was probably malnourished and had her feet shackled.

[Kraco]

And had very little personal motivation. She only fought this well after shedding the last vestiges of slavery.

[David75]

Morgianinja! :D

I guess it makes sense a Magi would meet people that are so extravagantly extraordinary.
After all, this young teen girl, with no training we know of, already is so strong she can defeat a gand of armed thieves and several heavy tigers... barehanded (and footed too...) I wonder what kind of monster you'd get from a properly trained fanalis male in his 20s...

I guess there's good material for a sig or avatar...
1387

[Kraco]

Episode 7 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=375502)





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I wonder what kind of monster you'd get from a properly trained fanalis male in his 20s...
Looks like that still remains to be seen, as he saw no fighting so far.

An interesting episode. Morgiana is certainly getting more and more human. You wouldn't soon know she was a slave - especially if she gets rid of the habit of prostrating. I reckon Alibaba is in this city dealing with his past. I wouldn't otherwise take him as a person associating with thieves, so he must have pressing reasons to rely on such methods. Although it could very well be he'd call their company freedom fighters or something. There must be some people in power that would recogize his face immediately, though, considering how he was covering himself so thoroughly. I don't recall the details of the early eps so well, but was he prince or something from this city? I seem to remember his technique with the blade was royal.

[Archangel]

He's probably some bastard son of the dead King that was exiled by his half brothers yada yada, same shit different day.

I didn't really enjoy this episode, Sindbad is a pretty interesting bloke but the whole thing was so painfully predictable that i was dozing off in between scenes.

[Inazuma]

We got our share our Morgiana time, all is well again.

Jafar was underwhelmingly weak. I think I expected too much from a character who starred as Disney's first Dark Vador

[David75]

Aye Kraco, Funny how speaking about a well trained male Fanalis in his 20s, we got Masrur this ep.

Alibaba and thieves, seems about right to me.

Other than that, almost useless ep. Just a bad intro to that small Sindbad arc.

[Ryllharu]

I didn't really enjoy this episode, Sindbad is a pretty interesting bloke but the whole thing was so painfully predictable that i was dozing off in between scenes.I concur. For a rather enjoyable show so far, this episode was quite dull.

[Kraco]

What are you guys complaining about? There was nothing at all extra special about the preceding episodes either. I don't know what kind of academy award scripts you expect from a standard show like this. This show relies heavily on just a few elements, like an extremely goofy but righteous main character, a cute but strong heroine, an exotic setting, and... well, that was pretty much it, since the plots are perfectly commonplace. Absolutely nothing in the beginning of this show has indicated it's any more exquisite than this. And that's plenty for me.

You are mentally coaching yourself for disappointments.

[Archangel]

My issue is that the reveal that the whole episode revolved around was too cliché and predictable, nothing more and nothing else.

I wouldn't call this a predictable series so i doubt it will become a running problem, cool your panties Kraco.

[Uchiha Barles]

I rather enjoyed this episode, pretty much like all the others. The reveal at the end was so predictable because they essentially told us that Ali Baba was among the thieves. "It must not be our Ali Baba :D" Bitch, please. So the "reveal" really wasn't so much of a reveal, as much as it was plain old, read the lines as they're written, plot. I enjoyed that. It was also nice to see Morgianna's personality develop a bit, and Sinbad's the fucking man. I could've done without his right butt cheek all in my left eye socket though.

[Kraco]

Yeah, I don't think this was meant to be anything but predictable, and revealing there's Alibaba among the thieves beforehand certainly wasn't working to give the opposite idea. It's merely a simple setting for an arc about Alibaba's past, I'd imagine. If there's nothing to hide, it's better not to desperately try to hide that nothingness in order to surprise... nobody.

[Kraco]

Episode 8 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=377663) | GotWoot (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BGotWoot%5D_Magi_-_08_%5BE89C702F%5D.mkv.torrent)



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Despite everything I said, even I'm now feeling this arc is lacking some of the spirited vigor the previous ones had. Perhaps it's just because not only Alibaba but also Aladdin got so melancholic. I would also rather see Morgiana's growth as a free person outside of an arc as gloomy as this. It's kind of cruel that when she's just discovering herself in the process of healing lifelong scars, she's suddenly pitted against one of the two people who helped her gain her freedom and human dignity.

But on the other hand, I reckon this past and the present state of his country are something Alibaba needs to deal with. They also define him as a person, and no doubt explain why he hated slavery so much. If they had made this arc goofy, it would have left Alibaba quite a superficial person.

On a basic level I've always been intrigued by stories where friends are set against each other by differing circumstances. It's just that Aladdin is the kind of a happy-go-lucky kid that I wouldn't want to see suffer.

[Uchiha Barles]

My enjoyment of the series is only increasing. The issues they touch upon are no joke. Last week, when Sinbad said:

"The nobles wealth comes from your taxes. If you don't feel that they deserve it, then you should take it back. But do not take lives."

I nearly jumped out of my seat in a weird mix of righteous rage and inspiration. This week they're touching on the abuses of paper currency. They even made Ali Baba's mom a whore, yet spoke of her as dignified under the circumstances. I'm enjoying the subtext in all of this a great deal.

[Ryllharu]

I found it difficult to feel bad about Alibaba's tragic past, given to whom he was telling it to. Alibaba had a family with his mother, he had friends, he had a sworn brother. He was happy, had people to play and talk to, and even at the end, felt the affection and pride from his father.

Morgiana was stolen from her family long ago. Her earliest memories are being a slave, and being mistreated by that asshole. Her first friends are these two. No one else has ever given a damn about her (though Goltas did at the end). Aladdin never had anyone. Ugo was his first friend, and technically, he wished for that.

It made it a bit hard to care. Compared to those two, Alibaba has had it good.

[Kraco]

Like Sasuke said famously, only those who once had something can understand the pain of losing it. Don't forget that Alibaba originally thought he would leave these two out of his problems. He told that to Morgiana in no unambiguous words when she paid the surprise visit. A part of the reason could have been that he felt Morgiana didn't deserve to wallow in other people's troubles after having suffered so much herself, and, let's face it, despite being a magi, Aladdin is still a kid (just like they said in the ep itself). But now Alibaba was dragged there against his will to face those two. No matter what kind of a story he's telling, you can't judge it against Aladdin and Morgiana's past anymore. They are forcing it out of him, and I bet his story matters to Alibaba himself helluva lot. Based on his previous actions, he must be trying to correct his own mistakes of the past as much as help the city.

[Uchiha Barles]

I found it difficult to feel bad about Alibaba's tragic past, given to whom he was telling it to.

I agree with you on that, but much like last week's complaints, I don't think that was a goal they were trying to achieve. It felt like they purposely left out melodrama in favor of matter of fact narration, which is obviously designed explain how things got to be the way they were in that country, and why Ali Baba is with the thieves. If anything (and I have my doubts) the story is setting us up to feel sorry for Kassim when he bites the dust.

[Inazuma]

It's the whole " He's damaged because of his childhood " kind of thing that just makes me want to double tap Kassim at the base of the skull. Betraying SOB needs an Ugo slap.

[Kraco]

It's the whole " He's damaged because of his childhood " kind of thing that just makes me want to double tap Kassim at the base of the skull. Betraying SOB needs an Ugo slap.

He was fighting for his survival, in the beginning his own and his sister, later, if we are to believe the propaganda, his whole people. During the time he betrayed Alibaba, they all had been driven from their homes and the land has been sold to the wealthy. And since Alibaba's old man apparently was the one in power, it must have been ultimately up to him to bless such a move. Exploiting Alibaba's naivety was a small thing compared to that, if the robbed money went to the robbed people.

I'm not yet sure Kassim is right now what Alibaba thinks he is. He might be simply using Alibaba to further his own plans and to buy the support of the impoverished masses for the time being. He seems like a shady fellow, not any saint. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in fact planning to become the next king himself.

[Archangel]

I love the girl's designs in this show, Alibaba's mom had it goin on!

It's still hard to make any judgement on either Ali or Kassim, there's obviously more to this story from both sides.

[Xelbair]

You seriously think that he was protecting people from slums? He was in band of thieves, heck - he's leading them. Do you think that robbers and thieves would accept a leader who is truly protecting innocent people? no way. They might give them some cash - so people won't give out their movements to the gov't, to get help from them in need.

My guess is that Kassim's sister died thanks to some nobleman(probably got raped too) and now he is just going in for vengeance.

but also my first guess(before this ep) was that Alibaba is trying to get his country back(before it was known that he really was the prince - but it was quite obvious) and he's supporting Kassim just for that - now.. i'm not so sure.

[Inazuma]

Magi 10 by Commie (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=382109)

Watch it guys, it is as good as Jojo's episode 10
Spoiler Alert : Don't fuck with Magis

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, great episode.

Sinbad seriously disappointed me. Even Alibaba had more guts than he did.

[Uchiha Barles]

Wow....I love this show. The usual type of subtext was present in the introduction of the banker with allusions to his (their?) role in all this mess. But what really took the cake was an artform that I thought was lost to the shounen genre: A major fight that begins and ends within a single 22 minute episode! <3

[Kraco]

Episode 11 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=384122)




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It's seriously starting to annoy me that they are dragging Alibaba in the slump for so long. No matter how good the eps are otherwise, but when one of the three main characters is like that, I can't feel happy. He even wasn't like that in the beginning of the show, and based on everything we know has happened, he shouldn't be like that now either. It feels unnatural. One factor is Sinbad always stepping forth instead when Alibaba is just standing still with his mouth hanging open, but I don't get the feeling Sinbad would still do that if Alibaba actually tried to do something. But as a spirited king, Sinbad simply can't leave the people hanging when Alibaba enjoys his long moments of hesitation. Even in the very last scene, Sinbad was staring at him so hard that it would be impossible not to interpret it as trying to force Alibaba to finally raise his voice. If he doesn't do it now, he's going to be a loser for the rest of the story and should just hit the road, never to be seen again. I would rather forget him and watch Aladdin and Morgiana than see one more episode of depression.

[shinta|hikari]

Relax. They are setting him up for some growth.

[Ryllharu]

Bullshit.

This arc has grown stale, and they're really dragging it out.

[Dark Dragon]

Bullshit.

This arc has grown stale, and they're really dragging it out.

It's been 4 whole episode with an introduction of a new set of character, a major villain, several hints toward a deeper plot.

The climatic fight took half an episode and even the flashback didn't last more than a single episode. What part of any of this is dragging it out? This is no where near the coma inducing pace that most other Shounen tend to tell its story.

As far as Ali Baba goes, the only time he has shown true confidence so far is during his sword fight with the guy who own Morgianna. That was because it was a territory he was knowledgeable in, so he has no problem using what he knows. Otherwise, his personality tends to be very hesitant and lack a lot of traits for a real leader. He has no experience leading anyone and lack charisma, he knows this and that is why he is hesitant to take charge.

In fact, this is very consistent with his character. Think back so far and count the number of times Ali Baba took charge without someone else directing him. He only went into the dungeon because of Aladdin power, he only join the fog troupe at Kassim's urging and he only reconcile with Aladdin when he was forced by Morgianna. Like shinta said, Ali Baba is a very flawed character that has plenty of room for growth. If anything, Sinbad presence is making him more hesitant because Sin is such a natural leader.

[Kraco]

If anything, Sinbad presence is making him more hesitant because Sin is such a natural leader.

That's indeed true, and no doubt Sinbad acted a couple of times before he could stop himself, being such a natural leader, but otherwise I'm not, at least yet, getting the kind of impression from him that he would actively want to supplant Alibaba as the leader of the ragtag in this country. So, rather than crawling even deeper into the holes of the earth like a worm, Alibaba should draw inspiration from Sinbad, use his actions and behavior as examples and get his own ass moving. Sinbad is clearly waiting for that to happen. While you say Alibaba has always been like this, in fact he has always been active at defending the helpless and hasn't hesitated to even risk his own life and wealth to save them. Now he's supposed to be saving the population of his home country, so it's not like him to just stand still and wonder.

[Ryllharu]

Think back so far and count the number of times Ali Baba took charge without someone else directing him.You seem to explicitly exclude the moment he decided stop being a sycophant and save Morgiana and the little girl at great cost to himself (nearly dying in the process, and crushing debt from throwing the wine at the flower monster), which ultimately added additional motivation for him into entering the dungeon (a much higher debt to pay back).

He had already gotten past a similar hurdle. He already gained confidence to do the right thing instead of the easy thing. This entire arc has been Alibaba backsliding, weighed down with his past. Now he is nearly as bad as he was in episode 1, the only difference is he isn't prostrating himself before his half-brothers.

New sets of characters aside, Alibaba's character development hasn't gone anywhere since the start of this arc. It's gone in reverse. So yes, it is starting to get dragged out.

edit: Furthermore, his line in that very episode was, "It's still better than doing nothing and living with regrets!" which is exactly what he's been doing these recent episodes.

[Dark Dragon]

I do understand your frustration, don't get me wrong. I really don't like it when characters get like this also, but i personally thinks it's consistent with Ali Baba. This situation is slightly different than just risking himself to help the weak. I don't think he would hesitate to do that, but he is probably afraid of making the wrong choices and therefore cause those who follow him to suffer. He's still very young and inexperience and was suddenly thrust into a position of power. We have to remember that Ali Baba wasn't groom to be a prince from birth, he was a child from the slum. He didn't learn of his true parentage until late into his adolescent and was thrown into life as a royalty. He lacks the confidence that was instill into those belonging to royalty at a young age and he lacks the natural charisma of people like Sinbad.

I don't know how deeply this author consider the characters when writing the story so this is all assumptions. We can surmise a few things from what the story has shown so far
1) Ali Baba is more interested in going on an adventure than becoming a leader, because he clearly intended to travel the world with Aladin, but was stuck in his home country after learning of its current state from Kassim.
2) While he will risk his life to save those in need, Ali Baba personality is actually more on the timid side. Remember that he ran away after causing the fire instead of dealing with the consequences and there is also his tendency to let other dictate his actions.
3) Sinbad is akin to a hero for Ali Baba and he obviously idolize the guy.

Because of those reasons, i didn't find it out of character for Ali Baba to act the way he did.

[Uchiha Barles]

While it is kind of annoying to see Ali Baba be so damned reluctant in everything he does, I am enjoying the interaction that encompasses that aspect of him: the relationship between Sinbad and Ali Baba. Sinbad seems to be going out of his way to do things in such a way that Ali Baba can see him do it. I think when Sinbad realized how awesome Aladdin is, he figured that his king candidate was probably someone worthwhile, so he's making himself out to be Ali Baba's mentor. For now, he's instructing by example. He doesn't seem to want to outright push Ali Baba in any direction because he's probably still evaluating him. If I go with that interpretation, I don't even see Sinbad taking the lead as something that requires forgiveness, because Ali's resolve has, clearly, yet to be solidified.



edit: Furthermore, his line in that very episode was, "It's still better than doing nothing and living with regrets!" which is exactly what he's been doing these recent episodes.


He hasn't been doing nothing. He's still the leader of the band, he's been playing robin hood all this time, and he's still doing it. He then went and tried to talk to the king, and then fought to defend Aladdin and the surrounding people. The problem is he has no charisma for someone who should be a leader, due to his lack of confidence and lack of diplomatic skill, and lack of military might. I imagine this is what is Sinbad is going to be teaching him. Also, watching him get his ass kicked is not fun.

While you could interpret his recent development as backsliding, you have to consider that the scale and complexity of the issues he's dealing with now are far greater than the things he's dealt with before. He's dealing with a problem that has to be conceived in terms of politics, nations, class structure, etc. You know, the kind of thing grown, sophisticated men and women have debated over for millenia and have yet to come to a consensus on. I'm not debating that it's a bit annoying to watch, but Ali Baba's reluctance far exceeds the requirements to be seen as reasonable and justifiable.


edit: Probably should've read more of the thread instead of knee jerk reacting to posts. Dragon, right above me said the same shit.

[Kraco]

Episode 13 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=390356)






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Oh, yeah! This felt again every bit, no, actually better, than the beginning of this show. The previous ep had some good parts already, but this was good from the beginning till the end. Alibaba is fully back on his feet, more so than ever since he can kick ass now, even if he's still a fledgling. He has started to develop character, which is probably even more important than simply being able to crack some skulls. Morgiana isn't much of a thinker, but she was right to believe in him even when he was at his worst. Or perhaps it's precisely because she's not a thinker.

Regardless it was good to see him push forward, and even better to see him backed up by Morgiana. Her fight was naturally as flashy as ever, yet it was nice to see she still has a long way to go as well; it makes the rest of the show more interesting.

One thing that caught my attention in this ep was how much Shinichiro Miki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=659) (the Banker's VA) was enjoying his role. He sounded like some unholy mix of Kurz Weber and Lockon Stratos given Deishuu Kaiki's disposition.

Looks like Aladdin may be waking up as well. About the time.

[Uchiha Barles]

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude...Morgianna totally flying kicked a fucking hole through a giant monkey's chest! Goddamn! <3.

[Ryllharu]

I really love the cut of Morgiana's dress. The trailing length of fabric at her back is too cute. Which is made even better every time she does some acrobatics. It reminds me of Kat's scarf in Gravity Rush.

What has been making this series great is that it doesn't try to be anything more than what it is. It's a just a good adventure romp (rare these days) with great characters and entertaining fights. All the right mix of tension and humor.

I can't wait for the look on the Kou princess' face when she sees her betrothed. Might have been what we saw in the preview, but I'm hoping for even more than that.

[Inazuma]

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude...Morgianna totally flying kicked a fucking hole through a giant monkey's chest! Goddamn! <3.

All arguments are now invalid.

[Archangel]

I got dibs on Morgiana as mai waifu.

[Uchiha Barles]

I'll fight you.

[shinta|hikari]

Okay, how do we go about this fight?

[Archangel]

There is no fight, I've invoked dibs.

As by the bro code:


62) In the event that two Bros lock on to the same target, the Bro who calls dibs first has dibs. If both call dibs at the same time, the Bro who counts aloud to ten the fastest has dibs. If both arrive at the number ten at the same time, the Bro who bought the last round of drinks has dibs. If they haven't purchased drinks yet, the taller of the two Bros has dibs. If they're the same height, the Bro with the longer dry spell has dibs. Should the dry spells be of equal length, a game of discreet Broshambo* shall determine dibs, provided the chick is still there. *Rock, paper, scissors for Bros.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 14 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=392776)


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Well since Morgiana said she's going back to her country, I know Alibaba X Morgiana isn't going to happen, but I'm still supportive of it though.

While I do feel that the recent episodes have been slow in terms of development (I like Alibaba so it was painful to see him in such a shitty state), I'm also glad that this arc was mostly about humans solving problems (even if they involve magical items). As deliciously satisfying as it was to see Ugo go Unit-01 all over Judal, his previous cleanups have been a bit Deus Ex. At times it was hard to get excited because having a blue, headless giant around meant the cast could solve all potential problems.

[Kraco]

I know Alibaba X Morgiana isn't going to happen, but I'm still supportive of it though.

How do you know such a thing? The point of the show seemed to be in the beginning that those three will go adventuring together, and in fact all three still want to do exactly that. I expect for one reason or another, Alibaba can't stay in the city and thus is free to leave - just like he's in fact wishing. The first leg of their adventure would be to travel to Morgiana's homeland. Nothing says she will stay there, though, once she has seen it again.

[Uchiha Barles]

I wonder what a smitten Morgiana would be like. Right now, I can't quite picture it. Every time I try, all I see is her kicking the shit out of something, or the guts out of something, with no panties.

I don't know why, but I wanted to backhand Ali Baba across the face this episode, again. To say the things he said so earnestly just seemed absurd to me. I do like him though. I also regret that Ahbmad isn't getting killed. It's sucks to let a pig you've been fattening that long go to waste.

[Kraco]

I also regret that Ahbmad isn't getting killed. It's sucks to let a pig you've been fattening that long go to waste.

Who knows what will yet happen. Kassim didn't look too pleased. I doubt he will approve all of Alibaba's decisions. Alibaba himself has been mainly talk so far, aside from managing to get the princess to withdraw (but then again, she was looking for any excuse after seeing the pig of a dude she was supposed to marry).

[Buffalobiian]

How do you know such a thing? The point of the show seemed to be in the beginning that those three will go adventuring together, and in fact all three still want to do exactly that. I expect for one reason or another, Alibaba can't stay in the city and thus is free to leave - just like he's in fact wishing. The first leg of their adventure would be to travel to Morgiana's homeland. Nothing says she will stay there, though, once she has seen it again.

Because if Alibaba is destined to be some sort of leader like the show also suggests, then he'd have to ultimately stay and rule somewhere (his own city?). I'm not saying they can't all go on some adventure, but by "return to her own country", I take it to mean she'll settle down there.

As such, even if the pair spend years adventuring with Aladdin, they can't ultimately remain together unless Alibaba somehow goes to rule Mor's homeland.

[Ryllharu]

Some of you keep saying it like Morgiana is going to arrive in her homeland (that she doesn't remember because she was taken as an infant or toddler at best) and want to stay.

Maybe there's a reason that Sinbad's crew also contains a member of the Fanalis.

She wants to visit it, sure, but I suspect that she won't like what she finds.

Either that or she's actually a princess, then it might be political marriage time. It's gotta be one or the other. She definitely won't stay there. Though, I honestly don't see them involved romantically at all, despite her having already seen everything. The trio seems a lot more like just a group of friends.

To be honest...I think it is more likely that Aladdin will turn out to be a young girl (he does wear the chest wrappings...), than Morgiana staying in her homeland once they arrive.

[Archangel]

To be honest...I think it is more likely that Aladdin will turn out to be a young girl (he does wear the chest wrappings...), than Morgiana staying in her homeland once they arrive.
Harem end?

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 15 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=395345)

[Uchiha Barles]

I loved the music during Kassim's transformation. Kind of reminded me of the end of day 3 in Majora's Mask. It's a shame that the people's reaction to everything just becoming a fine and dandy democracy as if nothing happened had to be influenced by magic. I just don't see the unreasonableness of wanting to hold accountable the people who were responsible for the state of affairs as they'd come to be.


his previous cleanups have been a bit Deus Ex. At times it was hard to get excited because having a blue, headless giant around meant the cast could solve all potential problems.

Well now he's a giant blue head who can't even keep itself up, and he's gone forever. Are you happy now?! :(

[Ryllharu]

I just want this arc to end...

But it keeps slogging onward.

[Buffalobiian]

Well now he's a giant blue head who can't even keep itself up, and he's gone forever. Are you happy now?!

I'm a little upset since he's a friendly guy.. but in the overall scale of things I'd say his (temporary?) departure means future conflicts will be potentially more intense. At the very least, I won't have the "When Ugo gets here everything will be fine" mentality. That said, I don't actually expect Aladdin to be able to summon Ugo again as his own djinn until towards the end of the series. If he can't summon him back ever again, then he will see Ugo again when his job as a magi finishes and rejoins the rukh pool.


I just don't see the unreasonableness of wanting to hold accountable the people who were responsible for the state of affairs as they'd come to be. It's not unreasonable, but I doubt the entire mass would madly rush and spill blood to exact revenge.

[Kraco]

I just want this arc to end...

But it keeps slogging onward.

Indeed. I'm amazed how long it has been running so far. In retrospect I can only say that I underestimated how much they wanted the arc to matter in the bigger picture, yet how little it ended up mattering, considering the episode count. So many eps in and only now Aladdin will level up and wake up. I suppose this arc managed to grant Alibaba quite a power up and some guts, but it took way too long. I doubt anybody cares about the country and its pig of a former king, so it's inconsequential.

[Uchiha Barles]

This arc definitely feels like its dragging along, but I don't think its on account of excessive length. I'm probably repeating myself here but this arc is centered on Ali Baba's development, and its execution is weak. I still remember Sinbad's statement to the group of commoners who were rushing some noble's mansion, and it gave me chills. It feels like all of Ali Baba's grand statements were supposed to elicit the same effect, but failed miserably. There's just something so unconvincing about it all, and the worst offender thus far was his establishing a democratic government in Balbad. Nevermind whether its a good idea or a bad one, Ali Baba is just to runt-ish and desperate to be convincing.

[Inazuma]

You can get the worth of an episode by factoring Ugo x Morgana screen time.
Overall, it started to suck when our blue friend failed to respawn and Morgana's action screne in Ep13 was the only highlight for me in the last episodes of this arc.

[Uchiha Barles]

Episode 16's out. Thought I'd pause the episode to comment that this is the worst episode thus far. It's horrible. I've disagreed with some on what the show's flaws are, but they are flaws nonetheless and they're coming out in spades this episode.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 16 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=398244)


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I'm generally pretty tolerant, so I thought it was someone distracting me on steam-chat while I watched this. Perhaps it's as Barles says and the episode really was that bad. Alibaba should just supercharge his djinn takeover already and cut Kassim up. We know it's going to happen.

It doesn't make too much sense to have Sinbad finish the fight since it needs to be Alibaba to save the country.

[Kraco]

I can't say I'd have enjoyed this episode overly much either. Alibaba was fluctuation between his usual hesitatation and a stupid will to sacrifice himself in vain. I also hate the plot element of an enemy successfully using a main character's annoying weakness (exploiting a reasonable weakness would be just fine), like the dark djinn now showing Kassim's face to Alibaba. If Alibaba had half a working brain, he would remember it was Kassim himself that willingly turned his own flesh into that monstrosity, so it's purely condescending not to fight him with all he has got. A true friend would rather want to end Kassim's misery than let him live the rest of his days as an abomination and a rotten magician's slave.

Damn, how I wish this stupid arc would end already.

[Inazuma]

Spoiler alert : Someone is going bankai

[Archangel]

The terrible animation didn't help either, this was a pretty worthless episode overall.

I also don't like it when they introduce too many new elements at once to a story, makes the story too convoluted.

[Uchiha Barles]

gg - Episode 17 (www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=400771)

The three minutes between Ali Baba's tears were awesome. It was awesome concentrated. Sinbad's crew being awesome, Sinbad himself looking like a Joestar in dragon armor (and kicking ass like one), and a set of 3 yet to be named scantily clad females in a creepy room with a magic circle in it. That was a great 3 minutes. Then, 30s of Morgianna being adorable for the cherry on top. The silver lining people, look for it, see it, relish it.

One more thing: Aladdin 2, Judal 0.

[Ryllharu]

Ugh, at last, this dragged-out arc has ended.

It would have been nice for this to happen two episodes ago, but it was a decent ending, I suppose.

Huge evil cabals are always a great enemy threat, but this group seemed to mostly be anonymous ones, unlike the masked d-bag they'd been fighting in this arc. Large anonymous evil cabals never get used to their full extent, they just sort of get forgotten halfway through.

If you can't count them by hand, don't expect the protagonists to fight them all, they'll just slip away into the shadows and be forgotten, or more likely, get absorbed instrumentality-style into some super evil gargantuan in the penultimate episodes.

[Buffalobiian]

Ugh, at last, this dragged-out arc has ended.

It would have been nice for this to happen two episodes ago, but it was a decent ending, I suppose.

I couldn't even really appriciate this overdue ending, which made this:


a set of 3 yet to be named scantily clad females in a creepy room with a magic circle in it

and this:


30s of Morgianna being adorable for the cherry on top

the best parts of the episode.

[Kraco]

Finally! This arc was so stretched, so annoying, and so repetitive that I'm done looking back to it and rather will just heed the last line of this episode and look forward to the new arc.

[Archangel]

This episode was so gaaaaaaaaaaaay.

I'm glad the arc is over though, i'm ready for new developments and some explanations on what the hell was going on in those final episodes.

[Uchiha Barles]

Episode 18's out. I lol'd at Ali Baba getting punked by Sinbad. I'm not entirely sure if that was necessary but it sure was funny. Not to mention that I do agree that Ali Baba isn't necessarily the best choice to rule even if he was the best face for the rebellion. Besides, ruling and legislating aren't very shounen. Morgianna being cute once again made the episode. Her development is coming along quite nicely. When I saw the new intro, I imagined she was dancing onstage as part of a show she'd been rehearsing for to perform during a festival. I never imagined she'd simply jump on stage and begin dancing as a reaction to a sudden and overwhelming feeling of joy. That was beautiful :D.

[Archangel]

Not to mention that I do agree that Ali Baba isn't necessarily the best choice to rule even if he was the best face for the rebellion. Besides, ruling and legislating aren't very shounen.

His intention was never to rule, he was the face of the the revolution and the obvious choice as the organizer of all the elements required for a proper democracy.

Morgiana is indeed adorable.

[Kraco]

I expected they would leave Alibaba's home country in a more agreeable way and in higher spirits, but it turned out quite differently. They made Alibaba so patriotic and self-sacrificing that it might have been impossible to get him to leave any other way, even if there hadn't been a threat from the empire; I'm sure he would have come up with a hundred excuses to stay and never leave even for Morgiana or Aladdin's sake. So, better this way, with Sinbad deciding it for him.

Morgiana was, indeed, once again the brightest part of the episode. She was without most emotions in the beginning of the story, but not so anymore, even if she has troubles dealing with those emotions. But that's exactly what makes her so cute, besides her looks.

The generals dealing with the sea creature was so comedic, and pretty much not a fight at all in the end, that it wasn't too exciting.

[Buffalobiian]

Sindria looks pretty damn amazing.. but when you think a bit deeper..

Where does all their waste go? Certainly you don't dump it into your backyard ocean, right?

[Xelbair]

why not?
use everything that you can as fertilizer, dump rest into the ocean to feed the fishes.

[Archangel]

Sindria looks pretty damn amazing.. but when you think a bit deeper..

Where does all their waste go? Certainly you don't dump it into your backyard ocean, right?
Well where does all of Australia's waste go? You're just a glorified island too ;D

[Inazuma]

Morgiana saves the Magi franchise.

[Buffalobiian]

Well where does all of Australia's waste go? You're just a glorified island too ;D

Landfills. And we dont' pump sewrage into our oceans (at least, we try not to).. and it's not the best idea to use human shit to grow your food since that's a great way to spread parasites. (last part is more at Xel)

[Ryllharu]

All you have to do is compost it. Mix in a decent amount of sawdust, add food waste (or plant material), wait a while (something like a year), and it is perfectly usable. All the harmful parasites will be dead.

Thanks television for that fun fact.

[Xelbair]

Also - remember that they aren't so technologically advanced to have really dangerous chemicals - this setting looks like ancient times or medieval ones.

[Dark Dragon]

What the hell happened to the animation budget for this episode?

They went through the trouble of teasing us with great animation in the intro which consist of mostly scenes from this chapter/episode. The eel scene looks ok, but then the animation quality dropped like a rock during the second half. Morgianna dancing scene in particular is huge disappointment and looks so awkward.

[vejita613]

What the hell happened to the animation budget for this episode?

They went through the trouble of teasing us with great animation in the intro which consist of mostly scenes from this chapter/episode. The eel scene looks ok, but then the animation quality dropped like a rock during the second half. Morgianna dancing scene in particular is huge disappointment and looks so awkward.
Agreed. I felt like everything thing in this episode was a bit off. Animation was a part of it, but there seems to be something else. I can't quite put my finger on it.

[Ryllharu]

I liked how they re-used a lot of the background shots from the opening. Like the market/city scene where the three of them fly over a woman's head...only with them cut out of that scene in the episode itself.

[Archangel]

I'm used to the animation by now, it's never been great.

[Kraco]

They wasted their whole budget on that miserable, long-winded previous arc. But then again, aside from Morgiana's dance, there wasn't anything in this episode that would have warranted better animation. I hope it will get to more tolerable levels when things start to matter again.

[shinta|hikari]

As long as the action is animated well, I am fine with it.

I hope the Ali Baba X Morgiana pairing eventually happens, even if only hints of it appear before this show ends.

[Uchiha Barles]

I never really cared about shitty animation, just as long as its not jarringly shitty. I just hope we're done with Ali Baba tears for a LONG time to come.

[Kraco]

Episode 19 - HorribleSubs (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=406033)

Since gg, or rather Koda of gg, is busy with job interviews and other such inconsequentiality, gg is late, allowing the miracle of HS beating them to a release.




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Nothing overly much managed to happen in this episode, if you ask me. However, I still enjoyed it well enough. It had a bit of Morgiana in the beginning and the Ko empire princess was funnier than I remembered, plus everybody automatically admitting Sinbad is fully capable of lecherous acts was a nice scene.

[Ryllharu]

This kind of episode was exactly what the series had been lacking as the Balbadd arc dragged on, and on, and on. It's the reason I started watching this show in the first place. A quality action-comedy series.

I'm guessing someone is going to rework Morgiana's shackles into the nice bracers we see in the OP. That was an enjoyable scene. She's still so attached to something, but now in a warm way, to the very thing that had beaten her down all those years.

For a moment there, I actually thought that the princess herself was in on it.

[Kraco]

For a moment there, I actually thought that the princess herself was in on it.

Yeah, that seemed very likely for a while. But I got quite a strong impression from this episode that they are now trying to make her a less evil character, and more innocent and naive, thus ultimately more likable. Having her be a part of an underhanded plot would have undermined that. Well, assuming I got the right impression in the first place.

[Archangel]

What a fucking soap opera. All i took from that is that Morgiana is still cute and Jafar used to look really cool before Simbad housebroke him.

[Buffalobiian]

What a fucking soap opera. All i took from that is that Morgiana is still cute and Jafar used to look really cool before Simbad housebroke him.

I had trouble imagining Jafar as an assassin when Sinbad first mentioned it, but now that we see a glimps of it.. yeah, he's pretty cool. Maybe we'll see him infiltrate some Organisation base and wipe out a whole lot of them or something.

[KrayZ33]

I marathoned all 19 episodes
and the Balbadd arc didn't seem extremely long, boring or over the top (in terms of tears, tears everywhere)
in fact I was pleased by how much was going on everywhere, intrigue/economy/diplomacy/fighting etc.


I should marathon stuff more often, seems like I enjoyed this alot more than you guys did
even had tears rolling down during the part-away scenes.

[Buffalobiian]

I marathoned all 19 episodes
and the Balbadd didn't seem extremely long, boring or over the top (in terms of tears, tears everywhere)
in fact I was pleased by how much was going on everywhere, intrigue/economy/diplomacy/fighting etc.

That seems to happen when you marathon vs week-to-week.

I wasn't really annoyed at Shana2, but I could see that it could have been pretty damn annoying from week to week. I know many more series had the same effect, though I can't recall exact names right now.

[Archangel]

For the record i also marathoned Shana and still think it's shit.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 20 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=407566)

[Dark Dragon]

They're cutting a lot of important content from the manga, i hope that doesn't mean that this is going to end early or something.

[shinta|hikari]

It's only 24 episodes, right?

[Buffalobiian]

I thought it was 25, but I've also read on gg's site that they're going to run out of material really soon.

[vejita613]

Hardly. Really, if its only 24 or 25 episodes, they're running out of episodes. They need atleast 6 or 7 to properly show this arc.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 21 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=410176)


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Best part of the episode: Morgiana's combo kick.

Alibaba's crying ruined the otherwise "okay" episode because the djinn's a dick.

[Kraco]

Best part of the episode: Morgiana's combo kick.

I was instantly reminded of Clannad and Tomoyo. Even without a counter.


Alibaba's crying ruined the otherwise "okay" episode because the djinn's a dick.

He cried for his dead friend's sake. I don't mind him crying (at least if it's relatively rarely) because it's much better than being a good for nothing introverted emo pushing everybody away for no reason at all.

I liked also the scene were Alibaba was congratulating Aladdin for being such a good mage. Now he only needs to get that close to Morgiana as well.

[Buffalobiian]

I would have wanted Alibaba to be a bit more "manly" with his crying. Maybe cry a little when he claims that he killed Kassim, but soaking it up afterwards with resolve when he talks about what he'll do in life afterwards.. instead of bawling it out.

Or he should have asked if Hakuryuu was strong enough to drop his pride in order to get things done when the Kou prince called him soft.

[Uchiha Barles]

Rather enjoyable episode. I liked the setting, weird and Alice in Wonderland-y. Hakuryuu's crying was also pretty funny in that I didn't see it coming. Made his insults funnier than they otherwise would've been. And Judal at the at end made me laugh too. Everytime he's shown his face, he's gotten his ass kicked. It's like trying to make Pokemon trying to make me take team rocket seriously.



I liked also the scene were Alibaba was congratulating Aladdin for being such a good mage. Now he only needs to get that close to Morgiana as well.

There's a different relationship brewing between those two. Obligatory awkwardness will ensue.

[Archangel]

PSA: Seems they're going for an anime original ending so get ready for forced closure.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 22 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=412799)


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Morg could have been drawn in a more flattering way when she ran out of Magoi. That was just creepy an unnecessary.

[Inazuma]

Holy shit, I was completely surprised when she ran out of magoi.
That face ...

Also Magi's budget now fell to one similar to Inferno Cop's.

[Kraco]

That was kind of contrived plot progress. Aladdin could have dealt with the tentacle monster with his fire balls far easier than Morgiana, and from all the way up as well if he hadn't wanted to fly down. But whatever, at least this resulted in Alibaba having Morgiana in princess carry, which is good in itself.

[shinta|hikari]

Maybe the fireballs' effect dissipate with distance? That actually makes sense because fire burns out with time. It looked like Morgiana traveled a long distance before reaching the bottom.

[KrayZ33]

Also Magi's budget now fell to one similar to Inferno Cop's.

is this show supposed to have a really huge budget or why are people complaining so much about it.
because I don't see it, the animation is decent

and good for a shounen - I've seen *so much* worse especially in this genre

[Buffalobiian]

I'm complaining about the stylistic drawing of Morg with zombie, blood-bleeding eyes. Aladdin over-exerted his Magoi and only looked anaemic.

[KrayZ33]

i know, its more about all the "I'm already used to the bad animation" "the budget for this show seems to be very low" comments

[Uchiha Barles]

Morg could have been drawn in a more flattering way when she ran out of Magoi. That was just creepy an unnecessary.

I dunno...I rather enjoyed that, namely because of how taken aback I was by it. My thoughts while watching that went something like this:

"Oh great, so now you're happy because you can carry those weaklings even HOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT!"

Plus I have a thing for goth chicks, even anime ones, like that girl from Ergo Proxy. Morg fit the bill in that moment in a creepy, I'm almost ashamed of it sort of way.

[Archangel]

i know, its more about all the "I'm already used to the bad animation" "the budget for this show seems to be very low" comments
Probably because the budget IS low and the animation IS awful.

If you think otherwise you either haven't watched enough anime or have holes for eyes.

[Buffalobiian]

Probably because the budget IS low and the animation IS awful.

If you think otherwise you either haven't watched enough anime or have holes for eyes.

I rarely notice animation problems if they exist, this case included.

Art, sure. But not animation.

[Ryllharu]

Watch the broadcast releases of Nanoha StrikerS. Halfway through, their budget falls out. Rubber flailing limbs during fight scenes, off-center faces on the in-betweens, etc.

Magi has been fine this far in.

[KrayZ33]

Probably because the budget IS low and the animation IS awful.

If you think otherwise you either haven't watched enough anime or have holes for eyes.

you don't know what you are talking about if you think so
I could give that sentence right back to you, especially the "you didn't watch enough anime" part

because then you'd know how bad animation CAN get and most of the time, how bad anime animation IS nowadays.

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 23 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=414734)

[Kraco]

Alibaba should just burn to ashes the gloomy knight. I doubt he could reassemble himself from that anymore. But then again, Alibaba still hasn't grown a pair, so I guess it's useless to expect such effective if gruesome solutions from him.

[DarthEnderX]

So...just watched all of this this week. From the naming conventions of the episode, I was preparing myself for a 1001 episode epic! If I'd known it was only going to last two more episodes I'd have just waited till it was over.


I should marathon stuff more often, seems like I enjoyed this alot more than you guys didSame here. I read through the thread and was surprised how negative it was.


That said, while I like this series, I can honestly say that I don't really like either of the two main characters. Aladdin is just...I dunno...TOO simple. He doesn't really have any edge to him like your usual Shounen protagonist.

And Alibaba, after the first arc, I was pretty sure I liked his character. Then the next time we see him, he's in full-on Shinji mode. Which lasts pretty much the entire arc. And while I was hoping that would finally go away when the arc dealing with his tragic past was finally resolved, that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Kraco]

Episode 24 - gg (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=416881)





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It makes me sad a good character like Morgiana is going to waste in a show like this. Alibaba is sucking all the life and thrill out of this. I don't know why feeling sympathy when learning the tragic past of an enemy who was betrayed in front of you will push you deeper into the dark side, but if this finally helps Alibaba to get some balls and quit feeling sorry for himself, then what the hell. Maybe he'll become an exceptional man who can use both types of rukh.

But then again, there's only a single ep left, so it matters little. I hope Morgiana will get the questionable honour of kicking Alibaba back to his senses. At the very least I hope this didn't turn Alibaba mysteriously an ally of the villains. That would be too much even from a show like this.

[Uchiha Barles]

But then again, there's only a single ep left, so it matters little. I hope Morgiana will get the questionable honour of kicking Alibaba back to his senses.

Wait, what? One ep left? Wtf...I thought this was going to be one of those 100+ episode decade long shows where development has forever to happen. There can be no satisfying end to this shit...Now I regret watching this.

[Archangel]

Calm your jimmies, the anime is just going original ending. We watch it, have a good laugh about how bad it was and then read the manga if we want more.

[Ryllharu]

But then again, there's only a single ep left, so it matters little. I hope Morgiana will get the questionable honour of kicking Alibaba back to his senses. At the very least I hope this didn't turn Alibaba mysteriously an ally of the villains. That would be too much even from a show like this.
I hope Morgiana kills the poor sack of shit. He's been a pushover after the first arc, ever since they got separated. He has zero determination, no willpower, and gets manipulated by pretty much everyone and everything. He's not naive or anything, he's just a slave to anyone who can speak coherent words. He refuses to listen to his friends unless they're kicking his ass, so we'd all be better off if Morgiana just kicked through his torso and they called it a day.

Then Hakuryuu can take over Alibaba's role and the series will be stronger for it.

Also pretty tired of mask-dude slaughtering his pawns so easily. They create some decent side characters, and he just keeps stabbing them the first moment they fail. If he's so powerful, he can do his own damn dirty work, and give them another chance to be even angrier and more powerful the next time.

That or our heroes should save Dunya and maybe turn her frown upside down. Aladdin could create an elite task force of deposed royalty.

[DarthEnderX]

So it is just me or is it obvious that Hakuryuu already obtained the Djinn when he made it to the treasure room and he's already used it to heal Morgianna and him losing his arm is going to be a non-issue?

[David75]

Sailor Alibaba? Wtf...

[Uchiha Barles]

I was about to bitch and moan about the episode, but it really just isn't worth it. I'll just say the lack of Morgianna goodness was a shame.

[Buffalobiian]

I was about to bitch and moan about the episode, but it really just isn't worth it. I'll just say the lack of Morgianna goodness was a shame.

The lack of adventuring killed it for me. Just go treasure hunting, or walk to Morg's homeland or something.

The whole "I have to save the world, it's all my fault" storyline sucks. I really have to wonder at what goes on in the writers' minds (filler writers or otherwise). Do they seriously want to watch the stuff they pump out? :S

[KrayZ33]

I like it that Alibaba turns into the bad dude.. I also liked it when he was "leading" the gang back in his hometown, I thought it was a shame that he didn't get to fight Morgiana + Alibaba with his crew.
nothing is more awesome than a broken hero on a rampage, cursing everyone on his way and everything he has done

since Alibaba didn't believe in his own strength one bit, it actually makes sense to turn him into that guy

shame, hate and regret are always a nice way to form characters into favorites
if they seek atonement and understanding later, preferably right before they die, then thats even better

[DarthEnderX]

I like it that Alibaba turns into the bad dude.. I also liked it when he was "leading" the gang back in his hometown, I thought it was a shame that he didn't get to fight Morgiana + Alibaba with his crew.
nothing is more awesome than a broken hero on a rampage, cursing everyone on his way and everything he has done

since Alibaba didn't believe in his own strength one bit, it actually makes sense to turn him into that guy

shame, hate and regret are always a nice way to form characters into favorites
if they seek atonement and understanding later, preferably right before they die, then thats even betterOh totally man! Sasuke Uchiha is totally awesome and not the worst character ever!

[KrayZ33]

exactly because the worst would be the opposite of him, naruto... but there is also Pain instead of Sasuke

the broken one is always the better choice

Fate - Shirou vs Archer, Saber, Berserker, Lancer etc. (god, this anime had so much despair its like bathing in a pool of tears and abandoned dreams, who does not like that and the characters)
Code Geass - Zero vs Spinzaku


and so on..

even Light from Deathnote
as soon as he realised he can't cleanse the scum from this world with just pure love and righteousness alone he became one of my favorites (which was like 10 minutes into the series), his corruption just added to that

antihero > hero anytime

[DarthEnderX]

NEVER!!!

Hot-blooded badasses who never give up are the best characters in all of anime!

The further removed you are from Kamina, the greater your failure as a character!

[Buffalobiian]

gg - Episode 25 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=419434)

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Well, that's that (until October anyway). I would wish that Morg would go get herself a better man, but seeing how happy she was at the end means I'll have to settle with "I wish Alibaba would man the fuck up and stay that way".

Take Sinbad for example. That guy eats curses for breakfast. Perhaps women as well, but Ali would die before that happens.

[DarthEnderX]

Ah, it's coming back in Fall eh? That's cool.

So how badly did the rushed ending to this arc fuck up what was in the Manga?

[Kraco]

It didn't feel rushed in the slightest. It was exceedingly refreshing it didn't feel horribly stretched like the previous arc.

I'll watch the second season, but in all honesty I wouldn't have cared if it had stopped here. Even Morgiana can't keep this thing floating much longer.

[KrayZ33]

It didn't feel rushed in the slightest.

I agree,

I wonder if Alibaba managed to get past his childhood issues now, it felt like he has at least. I'm waiting for more, wish I could enjoy reading manga because I really want to know how it'll continue

[shinta|hikari]

I read somewhere that Ali Baba is not as useless and emo in the manga, and some anime changes like in the Zagan arc caused this disparity. I'm gonna start reading that now to confirm.

[Buffalobiian]

The ending didn't feel rushed, it just felt shit.

It was Alibaba After.

[Archangel]

I think i'll just pick up the manga and maybe skip on the second season, assuming it's just more of this. I don't feel the anime really did a good job of portraying the characters and actually skipped some interesting stuff i happened to end up reading.

[shinta|hikari]

I will probably still watch the 2nd season just for some animated Mor goodness.

I would greatly appreciate it if you can point me to where that interesting stuff is, since I don't plan to reread events covered by the 1st season.

[Dark Dragon]

Chapter 1 (58 pages) was skipped by the anime, read it if you want to know who the two trader girls that randomly showed up half way through.

Chapter 77 is the first chapter after the Balbadd arc. The events are similar to the anime with some differences, read it if you don't want to be confused by a few things later on.

If you don't care about any changes and just want to continue from the anime events, read like 110. It's really hard to get an exact chapter for this because the anime switched some events around.

[DarthEnderX]

Jesus christ, 110 chapters compressed into 25 episodes. That's like 4 chapters an episode.

And people were STILL bitching that the pace was too slow.

How fucking slow is that manga then?

[shinta|hikari]

The fights take a lot of chapters to finish in the manga.

I just read the Zagan arc, and it finished much better than the anime did. Alibaba was not a liability in the fight.

EDIT: They really did switch around a lot of events in the Zagan arc, most of the changes making Alibaba look bad. I have no idea why they chose to do this.

[DarthEnderX]

Because Alibaba sucks a plate full of dicks.

[shinta|hikari]

Alibaba would only suck a spoonful of dicks if they didn't do the changes.

Heck, he is actually decent in the rest of the manga.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - S2 Episode 01 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=480181)

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A non-pervy Magi is no magi. I can't tell if Aladdin is sane/controlled/evil or not based on his performance at the beginning of the episode. The academy sounds like a shady place, and those veins on his face don't make him any more pleasant.

Sinbad being devious was another good development. It'll give Alibaba room to outdo him if he chooses to. At the very least he's not some shining white knight that Alibaba will forever be in the shadow of.

[Kraco]

Episode 2 - HS (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=482525)






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Sinbad being devious was another good development. It'll give Alibaba room to outdo him if he chooses to. At the very least he's not some shining white knight that Alibaba will forever be in the shadow of.

It seems to me Sinbad is one of the most realistic people in this show. He's basically a good ruler in the sense that the population of his country at large seems content. At the same time he's surely quite jealous of his position and thinks his way is the best way. No doubt that contributes a lot to his considerable charisma. You can't be a leader of men and give hope to the masses unless you look strong and especially look like you know what you are doing (even if you didn't or you were doing a bad thing). If this wasn't fiction I'd say Alibaba would never have a chance since in RL white knights never beat people like Sinbad. But since this is fiction, he might. A gullible and incompetent but well-meaning person could defeat one who seems to possess all the aces. I'm not going to be rejoicing if that happens.

The preview seemed to suggest Alibaba is leaving the island as well. I hope that's the case. He won't make any progress as long as he's worshipping the ground under Sinbad's boots. In some ways he has been degerating on the island. At least back home he made his own decisions and tried to take responsibility, no matter how bad it all ended. Doing the wrong thing is still better than doing nothing.

[Ryllharu]

It has become quite clear that Sinbad has been trying to lure Aladdin into supporting him as supreme ruler for some time. He desperately wants a court Magi because he doesn't have one. Magnostadt has one (edit: or do they? Maybe I'm confused), Kou has one, Sinbad doesn't and it is driving him nuts that one who is nearby backs Alibaba, not him.

What surprised me was that Kougyoku gave up on Sinbad so quickly, and now seems to be going for Alibaba after all (though she was initially forced). Their shared background serves to put them even closer together.

The other surprise, at least to me, was that they revealed there weren't any Fanalis left on the Dark Continent per Masrur. I honestly expected at least a few to still be present, leading to some scenario where Morgiana was some lost princess or something absurd like that. I'm very interested in her journey the most then.

Dunya :( Your chest and hips were quite healthy. Yamuraiha seemed to harbor quite a bit of guilt about Dunya losing her kingdom to Magnostadt, I wonder if she is far more involved with the coup than we've been led to believe. Either she didn't support it and fled when she could have kept Dunya safe, or participated after all.

[Kraco]

What surprised me was that Kougyoku gave up on Sinbad so quickly, and now seems to be going for Alibaba after all (though she was initially forced). Their shared background serves to put them even closer together.

I didn't get that feeling at all. Maybe I'm half as dense as a harem lead... I just thought she gave up on Sinbad but learned enough in Sindria that she wanted friends and possibly connections (I guess in a friendly way, not just for political reasons). She has seen quite a few buddies during her stay there, as opposed to back in the Kou empire, not to mention in Alibaba's wretched country, and likely realised the value of human relationships and the strength they can grant, even over superior individual power. But then again, she is quite shy even if strong, so maybe you are right.

[Buffalobiian]

Alibaba - stealing the hearts of red-heads! And he so sneaks onto Aladdin's ship next week.


He desperately wants a court Magi because he doesn't have one. Magnostadt has one (edit: or do they? Maybe I'm confused),

I don't think they do. It might even be what Aladdin becomes (tricked or not), based on the first episode.

The country that looks Greek/Roman has their own court Magi.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 03 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=484819), 04 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=487187)


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This was a good episode. It reminds me of when someone else got kidnapped in the first season and Morg tore shit up. Hakuryuu's mastery is pretty damn good. He would have stolen the spotlight this episode had Morg not brute forced her way in. While I'm looking forward to the next episode (let's finally see Alibaba not suck, I'd say he was holding back this episode so he didn't burn his own ship), but I'm also not sure what we're in for. There'll be some kids to beat up and maybe a deceptive mother to talk to. I don't give many shits about the latter besides learning more about this (seemingly pure evil) Magnostat.

Aladin's view is an interesting one. He's not really that judgemental and seems to express his views as curiosity and doubt. It reminds me of when he first met Alibaba and didn't fault him for his behaviour back then. It seems besides magic, he's trying to learn what truly drove Magnostatto its current state.

[Kraco]

Alibaba's treatment by the plot is getting pretty sad already: An underachiever who is beaten by people who conquered their dungeons much later than he. It's like he continues to suck and make mistakes because the target audience of 10 years olds of this show finds such humour so mightily funny.

I'm looking more forward to Magnostadt. It's the real deal based on what we have seen. They are spreading disruptive technology around in their neighbouring countries to various groups unfriendly toward the government and brewing civil unrest also otherwise, making them weaker and ready for picking. I just hope Magnostadt is doing this on their own and not because of some bullshit conspiracy and being used as a tool by whatever evil organization.

[David75]

It might be Alibaba's full djin equip is that much more powerful than anyone else in the world, he needs lots of time and self control to fully master it... without falling to the darkside.

[shinta|hikari]

I really don't think that Alibaba will ever be great or above all others anytime soon. He is still a brat, so it is only natural that he cannot compare to Sinbad and the other veterans.

[DarthEnderX]

Bah! Why didn't anyone tell me this had started up again!

Now I gotta go catch up!

[Buffalobiian]

HS - S2 Episode 05 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=489528)

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It kinda sucks balls that the only decisive guy on their team (other than maybe Aladdin) switches teams. Stop trying to talk people out of it already. Aladdin's the only one who's good at it. You've got to walk over these guys in order to save them. If this was a darker anime, one of those children would have ran them through with a knife while they were receiving "hugs".

But.. since we're doing down this path, please... please do something useful and cool this time Alibaba. You can start with a full Djinn Equip. It doesn't piss me off any less that he's still Morg's primary love interest.

[David75]

1591

I feel like I've just been trolled...

[Kraco]

When it started to look like even Aladdin was affected, I thought he has no business visiting Magnostadt. This "mother" is nothing but some pesky tool sent out by Magnostadt so she should pose no problem if Aladdin really wants to face the real deal.

The others having so little willpower is hardly a surprise. Morgiana is a former slave who was being broken for years. Alibaba is an idiot. Hard to say about Hakuryuu, though. His psychology hasn't been revealed so well, but he's so straightforward and uncomplicated that it might make him weaker against manipulation like this. If he really wants to stand against Al-Thamen, though, he would need to get some guts. They will otherwise fool him left and right.

[Uchiha Barles]

So...I managed to be unaware of this second season. Is it any better thus far than how the first season turned out?

[Buffalobiian]

So...I managed to be unaware of this second season. Is it any better thus far than how the first season turned out?

It's moving back into the right direction, but I can't say it's as awesome as the first 12 episodes were. I think that this will continue in that manner until Alibaba finally learns to equip so he can be cool. Otherwise he's always stuck at "how do I do this cool thing that others keep doing?"

I also think that he's got some burden that he's not really ready for. The earlier episodes were more light-hearted in that they didn't have to worry about saving countries and all. Imagine if the three just went around trashing dungeons like young Sinbad? It could get old if they fall into a pattern, but it could also be fun.

[Kraco]

Imagine if the three just went around trashing dungeons like young Sinbad? It could get old if they fall into a pattern, but it could also be fun.

None of them are ready to be even dreaming of saving countries. So, they should indeed be going around adventuring, exploring, and learning new things. Well, I guess that's what they are planning to do, but they suck so much a gang of kids can slow them down.

[Buffalobiian]

None of them are ready to be even dreaming of saving countries. So, they should indeed be going around adventuring, exploring, and learning new things.

That's what I'm saying they should do. Trashing dungeons is good.

[DarthEnderX]

Indeed. Clear dungeons. Get magic items. Create household items for new characters you add to the group. THAT is shonen power!

[Buffalobiian]

HS - S2 Episode 06 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=491902)


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At first, Morg being all cute and flustered from the confession was great to watch. Her rather tackless "stop it".. not so much, but not out of character. She did say she was happy to hear it, but it was (unfinished: troublesome for her?).

I really do like Hakuryuu's execution. They're showing him as being rather unbalanced and extreme, but I prefer watching that to Aladdin's wishy washy goody attitude. Aladdin's perhaps "wiser" in that he's seen that such direct, confrontational methods have nasty side effects (read: hatred), but the way he does his job just isn't smooth. Hakuryuu may be making the wrong choice, but he's doing it with conviction and confidence which is what I like. Granted, it's pretty obvious that the mother only saved the children by marrying.

[DarthEnderX]

Yeah, if the didn't live in a world where negative feelings turned into dark magic, I'd say Hakuryuu made the right decision for sure.

But since they DO live in that kind of world, it probably wasn't such a good idea.

Tangible manifestations of karma are a bitch.

[Ryllharu]

I was happier that Alibaba was the one to break the formation of black Rukh, instead of Aladdin. He's seen it firsthand, experienced it firsthand, and knows the right things to say to the kids to keep them from following Kassim's path.

I don't think Aladdin would have been able to handle it nearly as smoothly.

[Buffalobiian]

Oh. Replace all mentions of Aladdin in my previous post with alibaba. I messed up.

[Kraco]

Alibaba is all about idealism and happiness, but he has no tools, or wits, to make it happen in reality. Even now it looked like he would have preferred even Madaura to survive this. The most difficult part with the kids, to give them a future, he also pushed to Sinbad. It's bloody frustrating to watch him.

Even if he's motivated by revenge, Hakuryuu still advocates realpolitik and realistic approaches in general to all things. It doesn't look like he wants to destroy his mother's empire but rather save it. Maybe his mentality indeed wouldn't work with all problems with the black rukh a constant danger, but on the other hand, a dead person won't generate even that.

[DarthEnderX]

Maybe his mentality indeed wouldn't work with all problems with the black rukh a constant danger, but on the other hand, a dead person won't generate even that.No, but as this episode shows, anyone who's attached to that person when you kill them still will.

So every time you try and kill off a real villain, anyone with any regard for that person generates hate and grief and whatnot and just gives the big bads a bunch of evil mana.

[Buffalobiian]

Which gives us two options: do not kill the villain, or kill the villain and their entire family. See, I thought that the children all came from that very village and I expected the spell to be lifted as soon as the witch died.

In case it didn't though, seeing the parents stoning Madaura sparked the idea that the kids could end up hating their own parents, which was why I totally approved of Hakuryuu taking the initiative to kill her too. Then it turns out that the kids would have all gone son Sindria anyway..

I do feel slightly disappointed that Aladdin didn't disclose this discovery of Magnostadt having a hand in this. It would have given a more worldy feel to this arc and highlight the fact that they're brewing trouble all over the place.

[Kraco]

I do feel slightly disappointed that Aladdin didn't disclose this discovery of Magnostadt having a hand in this. It would have given a more worldy feel to this arc and highlight the fact that they're brewing trouble all over the place.

Disclose to whom? He's going to the very place himself, so the knowledge might serve him personally, but it would be of little use to the others. The country was apparently in a war with Magnostadt as it is, so it wouldn't really make any difference to them, perhaps it would be even demoralising to know Magnostadt was practically ruling a portion of their seas.

[Buffalobiian]

Disclose to whom? He's going to the very place himself, so the knowledge might serve him personally, but it would be of little use to the others. The country was apparently in a war with Magnostadt as it is, so it wouldn't really make any difference to them, perhaps it would be even demoralising to know Magnostadt was practically ruling a portion of their seas.

Disclosing to anybody really. There's no real sense of responsibility here. It wasn't really about one random woman who wanted little children for herself. There's a darker power behind it, and I feel that it should be acknowledged to make things "fit". You know, like "damn these Magnostadtians" or "Them again? They played a part in somebody-Onee-san's death as well" etc. Just something said explicitly to tie all this together for the sake of narrative.

[Kraco]

Disclosing to anybody really. There's no real sense of responsibility here. It wasn't really about one random woman who wanted little children for herself. There's a darker power behind it, and I feel that it should be acknowledged to make things "fit". You know, like "damn these Magnostadtians" or "Them again? They played a part in somebody-Onee-san's death as well" etc. Just something said explicitly to tie all this together for the sake of narrative.

I don't really see your point, at all. Aladdin is a magician and if magicians across all stories and lore share one thing (aside from magic), it's that they are secretive folks and not blabbermouths. Besides, there's not really anybody to tell about it. He wants to go to Magnostadt by himself and thus giving Alibaba and Morgiana more things to worry about would do no good. Like he told Hakuryuu earlier, he doesn't want to choose sides and wage wars for anybody's sake, though he would defend his friends, so telling the local authories to make them hate Magnostadt even more wouldn't be his style.

I'm only happy we, the audience, learned it (although I suspected as much even before), because it makes Magnostadt look all the cooler.

[DarthEnderX]

magicians across all stories and lore share one thing (aside from magic), it's that they are secretive folks and not blabbermouths.This is a completely ridiculous statement.

[shinta|hikari]

I'm surprised anyone sees Hakuryuu as anything decent after this episode.

Alibaba owned him in every possible way.

Hakuryuu fell to the hypnotism, killed out of misguided vengeance and did not care about the consequences, kissed Morgiana without consent, left his party without proper explanation, and is overall an ass.

Alibaba managed to defeat the berserk Harkuryuu, saved the pirate children (physically and emotionally), was chosen by Morgiana instead of Hakuryuu (because everyone knows she likes Alibaba), tried to stop Hakuryuu from going off on his own, and is overall a shounen hero.

Hakuryuu doesn't have conviction or confidence. He is blinded by vengeance (as Aladdin pointed out), and is like a headless chicken running around desperately but without thought.

Hakuryuu's line at the end, when he was expressing his feelings about his time with the group, felt so fake that it made me want to throw up. If he meant even half of what he said, he would not have acted and parted with them the way he did. He just wants revenge, and everything else can be sacrificed for it. He makes for a cool chuunibyou emo antihero, but just that.

[Buffalobiian]

Hakuryuu doesn't have conviction or confidence.

He declared his intentions to go to war with Kou. He's pretty dead set on it and doesn't seem too worried about it not working out. I'd say that's conviction and confidence right there. You can argue that he's on the wrong path and misinterpreted the actions of his mother (and along with that his vengeance), but what he's gunning hard down the fate he chose.

His conviction itself earns my respect. It comes from my perspective that right and wrong aren't always clear, and people will always have different opinions.. whether interpersonally, intrapersonally or across time. A correct choice today may be the wrong choice tomorrow. To get anything done though, you need to turn your throughts into action. While Hakuryuu is arguably wrong, he makes it happen.

As for Alibaba defeating Hakuryuu.. I didn't actually like that. Why's Amon's sword so much better than Zagan's? They're both Djinns, as far as we know.

I think I like watching Hakuryuu because he's a sort of rival/anti-Alibaba person. Alibaba waits around too much. When that happens, Hakuryuu jumps in and says "Hey, I just fucked some shit up because you were too slow. Didn't like the way I did it? Well too bad, should have done something before."

[shinta|hikari]

It's not about being wrong or misinterpreting. Hakuryuu is NOT thinking. He is just going straight ahead. That is not conviction or confidence. Blindly doing whatever you want is neither of those. He does not think that his path is right. He isn't thinking at all. That is what makes his actions stupid. Did he look mature enough to understand his actions? If anything, he just looked like a child throwing a tantrum. Like Madaura said, he is still a boy.

He does make wrong happen though. If making anything happen is enough (which Alibaba actually did this episode, like saving his party and the pirate children from death), then I guess Hakuryuu makes the cut.

[Kraco]

It's not about being wrong or misinterpreting. Hakuryuu is NOT thinking. He is just going straight ahead. That is not conviction or confidence. Blindly doing whatever you want is neither of those. He does not think that his path is right. He isn't thinking at all.

He secured Sinbad's support for his cause of toppling the Kou empire that's backed up by the evil global organization al Thamen. His own, personal motivation might be revenge, but it'd be 100% idiotic to say that good things born out of the actions of a person motivated by revenge would be automatically stupid and bad. Humans wouldn't even have the emotion of vengeance if they didn't care for justice and fairness.

Hakuryuu slaying Madaura right then and there was the best thing that could have happened, for three reasons: It freed the children from her "protection", forcing them to either give up living or make a life for themselves (Alibaba bettered the chances of the latter); it assured Madaura indeed did die for her sins and isn't taken somewhere by shady government officials for underground deals; and lastly it meant the beggars of the city didn't have to become murderers in front of the children. The kids would be free to hate Hakuryuu all they wanted, if they wanted, not the beggars who were their own community before the pirates snatched them away.

Like I said before, Hakuryuu is an extreme realistic next to the foolish idealist Alibaba and the newbie Aladdin, who's too green to try to make a difference. Hakuryuu doesn't believe everybody can be happy, so he's out to make sure in the end the right people will be happy, the rest preferably dead or banished.

[Splash!]

Yeah, I am not seeing the whole Hakuryuu being more 'realistic', while Alibaba and Aladdin are the only ones that are naive.


His own, personal motivation might be revenge, but it'd be 100% idiotic to say that good things born out of the actions of a person motivated by revenge would be automatically stupid and bad. Humans wouldn't even have the emotion of vengeance if they didn't care for justice and fairness.

Good things can be born out of revenge circumstantially, but that doesn't mean Hakuryuu should be getting any credit. I honestly don't think Hakuryuu gave a shit about the repercussions of his actions at that instant, or if he even thought it through. He probably just killed Madaura he felt like it, and then came up with some bullshit post rationalization. The fact that he was manipulated by Madaura more so than the others is proof that, if anything, he is less mature than them. I still haven't forgotten how big of a crybaby he was before he obtained Zagan's power.

Also, him securing Sinbad's support doesn't mean much because Sinbad is most likely playing him for his own reasons. He has probably been looking for a way to strike at Kou (and Al Thamen) first without having Sindria appear hostile. Aiding the 'rightful' prince who makes the first move is tactically and politically a lot better than having Sindria directly attack.

[Ryllharu]

Like I said before, Hakuryuu is an extreme realistic next to the foolish idealist Alibaba and the newbie Aladdin, who's too green to try to make a difference. Hakuryuu doesn't believe everybody can be happy, so he's out to make sure in the end the right people will be happy, the rest preferably dead or banished.
But the reason that Aladdin turns everyone down who asks him to be their magi and stands by Alibaba is exactly because they are all pragmatists, while Alibaba is an idealist when he is at his best (i.e. he's not being a coward or just plain dumb).

Only Alibaba could figure out the way to save his country from a revolt was to declare democracy. It didn't work out because the Kou denied it, but the people still back Alibaba's suggestion, and now they hate the Kou Empire for denying them, not Alibaba's half-brothers. They became a nation united in a single day, with very little bloodshed.

Aladdin is a pretty good judge of character, he knows that the world might not be the best place it can be behind Sinbad or some of the other people.

edit:
That's not to say that any character in the series believes themselves to be above killing others (something I particularly like about the show). The premise recognizes that pacifism generally fails (you might be morally superior, but you're still dead). Alibaba looks to it as a reluctant last resort, where Sinbad or Hakryuu find it too frequently be the most efficient method.

[Kraco]

Good things can be born out of revenge circumstantially, but that doesn't mean Hakuryuu should be getting any credit. I honestly don't think Hakuryuu gave a shit about the repercussions of his actions at that instant, or if he even thought it through.

It has been scientifically studied and concluded that no matter how highly educated a person is, they still make a significant portion of their decisions based on a gut feeling, that is, instincts. It's an evolutionary adaptation to the need of making instant decisions as the predators of old didn't care to wait for a committee resolution before attacking cavemen. But it's okay, since in many situation doing anything is far better than hesitating and doing nothing. Hakuryuu is simple enough, in his lust for revenge being free of idealism and hesitation, that he could act while others just watched. Surely you aren't saying the mob brutally beating Madaura to a pulp in front of the children would have been better than the clean cut by a single person?

Now, I'm not saying Hakuryuu would be anything close to admirable, wise, or even intelligent, but at least he's got a goal. Aladdin is also working towards building himself enough to have one, thus he's going to Magnostadt to learn and see things for himself. Alibaba is out to apparently save the whole world without anybody having to lose or suffer in the process... But at least he realises he hasn't yet got the powers of a god to make it happen, but apparently he thinks he will, despite being so incompetent he can't even djin equip.

Fortunately I don't need to hate Morgiana. She's cute and can kick ass. That's enough.

[shinta|hikari]

Actually, Alibaba still does not have a concrete goal, except saving and coming back to Balbadd. Anything farther than that is still murky to him, which is probably why it makes it seem that Hakuryuu has a more solid purpose (because he actually has one).

I am not even criticizing Hakuryuu's goals. I am fine or even prefer avengers and pragmatists compared to idealists (which I usually hate). But the way Hakuryuu is going about it is too childish. He thinks he has Sinbad's support from just a verbal promise, kills a mother in front of her (albeit brainwashed) children causing needless hate, he acts like a dick and hurts his friends because he suddenly remembered that he was an emo avenger, and he steals Morgiana's first kiss just because he wanted to take her away. If he had been stronger than Morgiana, I actually think he might have tried to take her by force.

Everything he did this episode just screamed immature and petty.

Sinbad is also a pragmatist and is pretty much not above more despicable methods to achieve his goal, but the difference in how they handle things is immense.

[Splash!]

It has been scientifically studied and concluded that no matter how highly educated a person is, they still make a significant portion of their decisions based on a gut feeling, that is, instincts.


Yeah that's cool and all but it isn't about instincts vs. rational thought. It is about Hakuryuu making a self-satisfying decision. He didn't act on his gut feeling of it being the right thing to do, but rather on what he wanted to do at that moment for himself. The intent itself precedes the instinct.

And again, I am not saying executing Madaura was the wrong decision. However, it's like having a soldier who fights only to satisfy his bloodlust vs. another one who genuinely fights to protect something.



Now, I'm not saying Hakuryuu would be anything close to admirable, wise, or even intelligent, but at least he's got a goal.

I would take an unsure fool to a confident fool any day of the week. The latter is more dangerous whereas the former is willing to learn from his shortcomings.

[Kraco]

I would take an unsure fool to a confident fool any day of the week. The latter is more dangerous whereas the former is willing to learn from his shortcomings.

So, wanting to defeat the evil underground organization and other villains who act very similarly (like Madaura) is foolish now? Well, yeah, I suppose it it. It would be much easier and safer to just sit back and take care of your own business, letting others worry for themselves as well. Despite the fact this fool has superhuman powers, much higher education and wordly experience than the people of that age in general, and also good political connections if he manages to play his cards correctly. If this fool doesn't act, then who does?

Besides, if an unsure fool was willing to learn, they wouldn't be a fool in the first place... If I hadn't got anything better to do, I'd take the confident fool. A confident fool still could get something done, even if they ended up dead in the process, but an unsure fool would just sit on their hands. If I did have something better to do, I'd also take the unsure one, so that they wouldn't get in the way.

[Splash!]

So, wanting to defeat the evil underground organization and other villains who act very similarly (like Madaura) is foolish now? Well, yeah, I suppose it it. It would be much easier and safer to just sit back and take care of your own business, letting others worry for themselves as well. Despite the fact this fool has superhuman powers, much higher education and wordly experience than the people of that age in general, and also good political connections if he manages to play his cards correctly. If this fool doesn't act, then who does?

You yourself admitted that Hakuryuu wouldn't make a very intelligent or wise leader so I am not really getting into this further.



If I hadn't got anything better to do, I'd take the confident fool. A confident fool still could get something done, even if they ended up dead in the process, but an unsure fool would just sit on their hands. If I did have something better to do, I'd also take the unsure one, so that they wouldn't get in the way.

Maybe you think that way but I certainly don't. A confident fool as a leader of a nation to me is the worst thing imaginable because they will constantly make the wrong choices and delude themselves in to believing that the decisions they make are right without second guessing themselves.


Besides, if an unsure fool was willing to learn, they wouldn't be a fool in the first place...

Yeah that sounds nice but it really doesn't mean anything. Who is to say a person can't start out foolish and become wise with time and experience? Just because the person had the capacity to learn from their mistakes doesn't mean they couldn't have started out as a fool. I never realized one of the pre-requisites of being a fool were that you could never break out of that pattern.

[DarthEnderX]

Wow, lotta discussion about this.

I guess it just boils down to the fact that Hakuryuu isn't a big incompetent baby.

Yeah, he's not the most virtuous person. But it's fine. At least his character flaws aren't obnoxious.


Also, I'm not going to hold "abandoning the group" against him, because all of them went to that city specifically TO split up. He just didn't want any teary goodbyes.


Alibaba beating Haku doesn't bother me because I'm assuming Elemental Weakness. Fire beats Wood.

[shinta|hikari]

Alibaba was stronger than Hakuryuu from the start, so it would be much weirder if Hakuryuu managed to beat him all of a sudden.

[Kraco]

Alibaba was stronger than Hakuryuu from the start, so it would be much weirder if Hakuryuu managed to beat him all of a sudden.

Not unless the djinns have a huge power difference. After all, Alibaba can't djinn equip and doesn't possess knowledge of the magoi manipulation or whatever it was. The only ace Alibaba has is his longer experience and having fought a wider range of opponents. But I wouldn't overestimate his learning capabilities considering he seemed to learn little even in Sindria.

[shinta|hikari]

Wasn't it already mentioned that there was something weird with his magoi which keeps him from doing the full djinn equip? It has nothing to do with his learning ability or talent. Even Sinbad said so.

Oh, and I think the cutting power of Alibaba's djinn is just abnormal. He did mention it during the fight, that it cuts up even other vessels. That is why Hakuryuu coated his weapon with magoi. He should have stuck to long range attacks using his creatures and plants. Fencing with a sword breaker is suicide.

[Buffalobiian]

Oh, and I think the cutting power of Alibaba's djinn is just abnormal. He did mention it during the fight, that it cuts up even other vessels. That is why Hakuryuu coated his weapon with magoi. He should have stuck to long range attacks using his creatures and plants. Fencing with a sword breaker is suicide.

That is why I said it was weird. He never mentioned it in any previous training or fight. The other point to make about this is that if his blade cuts all others, how does he train with it? I'm sure he must have trained using the large sword against one of Sinbad's generals before.

As for the power difference between Alibaba and Hakuryuu "from the start", I think a lot of it had to do with Alibaba acquiring a vessel while Hakuryuu hadn't. I wouldn't be able to tell you who'd win in a strict martial arts fight, and since Hakuryuu got his Djinn he's been a lot more versatile and powerful than Alibaba. Had it not been for the "my sword beats all" aspect which popped up rather suddenly this episode, Hakuryuu's superiority would have been obvious.

I think Hakuryuu uses Magoi manipulation out of habit or whatever. It doesn't make much sense to fight a known sword breaker like that.

[shinta|hikari]

Well, he has been cutting up weapons and enemies using that sword since he got it. I have no idea how he trains with it though. It would not be a stretch if his master does the same thing Hakuryuu did.

[Buffalobiian]

I agree that he's been cutting up other weapons. It simply irked me when he goes all "There's nothing Amon can't cut" without foreshadowing, in a manner that suggests he came to that conclusion ages ago.

[Kraco]

I agree that he's been cutting up other weapons. It simply irked me when he goes all "There's nothing Amon can't cut" without foreshadowing, in a manner that suggests he came to that conclusion ages ago.

It's Alibaba we are talking about. After the first couple of cuts, he surely deemed his sword can cut through everything and anything.

[DarthEnderX]

In his defense, it is a HOT sword. Everyone knows hot swords cut through everything. Especially butter.

[Ryllharu]

Magi S2 - 07 [HorribleSubs] (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=493922)



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Ren Kouha's retainers are such perverts, in a cute way. I suppose they are a perfect match for him, given how psychotic he is. I like that he inspires the same level of insane loyalty in his retainers that Sinbad does, just using a different method. From what the girls said, he finds and accepts outcasts, and fills them with love and attention, twisted though it may be.

I'm a big fan of size changing weapons being used in exactly the way Kouha uses them, where it is a matter of controlling when the size changes to use it to best advantage. He's not that Morgiana strong, so he uses the blade itself to give him height and power, making it enlarge and use momentum for a truly devastating strike.

Aside from being a psychopath filled with blood lust, he seems like a nice enough guy. He's as friendly as he is cruel, and he certainly seemed to care a great deal about his retainers, showering them with "attention."

I love the running gag with Alibaba always getting the ugliest (and somehow most popular) courtesans. Thankfully he made it up to Morgiana right as he left.

[Buffalobiian]

I love the running gag with Alibaba always getting the ugliest (and somehow most popular) courtesans. T

You know, I'm with Alibaba. I think he keeps getting the same one. xD The courtesan might forget, but Alibaba sure doesn't.

I also totally synced with Morg when she remembered Hakuryuu's confession. He wasn't completely in the right (forced kiss and all), but compared to Alibaba's good-natured wishy-washy.. you can understand why Hakuryuu's somewhat desirable. Morg herself was angry at why she turned down Hakuryuu for such a pervert.

[Kraco]

Morg herself was angry at why she turned down Hakuryuu for such a pervert.

Was she? Maybe watching Alibaba praise the courtesans and promise to make them queens made Morgiana think Hakuryuu's words were just similar empty blabber men use to seduce women. Still, forgetting Morgiana, it's pretty cool how good a team Alibaba and Aladdin make in that sort of situations. Alibaba immediately realised that's what they both need when he spied the place when they were walking past.

I wonder if Magnostadt has changed a lot since Yamuraiha left it. It didn't look like such an oppressive, evil place in these shots. Maybe only a portion of its upper echelons are militaristic expansionists.

[Ryllharu]

It didn't look like such an oppressive, evil place in these shots. Maybe only a portion of its upper echelons are militaristic expansionists.They still drove Dunya (and her eventual lovely boobies) out of her homeland. Magnostadt as a country wouldn't exist if they didn't murder everyone in the Musta'sim kingdom to form their elitist Mages-Only territory in its place.

They've spent the entire time since they destabilizing the area around them.

While Yam left during the revolt, you can assume everyone still there is complicit in the coup. New students are just getting lured in, and probably leave indoctrinated with the idea that magic users are superior to all others.

[Buffalobiian]

Was she? Maybe watching Alibaba praise the courtesans and promise to make them queens made Morgiana think Hakuryuu's words were just similar empty blabber men use to seduce women.

Surely you don't believe that. And that would only be the case if Alibaba himself made such promises already to Morg, which he hasn't.


It didn't look like such an oppressive, evil place in these shots. Maybe only a portion of its upper echelons are militaristic expansionists.

Their entry exam was a giant hammer to your face. If you were a competent mage, you survived. If you were an incompetent mage or not even one at all, you... don't? That's a pretty aggressive way to select magical beings in my opinion.

It's like Spartans admitting entry to their city by making people race against wolves.

[DarthEnderX]

I know Ren has been mentioned before. What was the context? Was he the water princesses bother or something?


Surely you don't believe that.It's what *I* thought she was thinking.

[Buffalobiian]

I know Ren has been mentioned before. What was the context? Was he the water princesses bother or something?

3rd prince of Kou. He's the brother of the water princess in that his father is also the current Emperor, as opposed to Hakuryuu's.

edit: Clarrifying since Ren is a surname. Ren Kouha is the 3rd prince

Regarding Morg, consider the following scenarios.


Morg was never confessed to, and secretly loves Alibaba who never replied. She sees Alibaba flirting with other girls and gets angry. That would be jealousy.

Morg was confessed to, but turned down Hakuryuu. She secretly loves Alibaba who never responded. She sees Alibaba flirting with other girls, thinks about Hakuryuu's confession and gets angry. She'd be angry at Alibaba for flirting with other girls and at herself for loving such perve. That makes sense since she got angry after remembering Hakuryuu's sincerity.

Morg was confessed to, but turned down Kakuryuu. She loves Alibaba, and Alibaba has also stated that he loves her. She sees Alibaba flirting with other girls, thinks about Hakuryuu's confession and gets angry. She'd be angry at Alibaba for flirting with other girls and at herself for loving such an insincere guy. She could also think that all guys make loose promises, but it'd seem strange to think of Hakuryuu when Alibaba's promise should be more directly linked.

Scenario 2 fits our own. In any case, being angry after remembering a turned-down confession vs a secret crush highly suggests anger at Alibaba and also at self for putting her chips/feelings into someone who doesn't devote themselves to her as much.

[Kraco]

Surely you don't believe that. And that would only be the case if Alibaba himself made such promises already to Morg, which he hasn't.

Hakuryuu's was the first confession she has ever got. She probably thought the world of it, even though she turned him down. But now she saw how men can say such words very easily even to women they don't know at all. To get some boobs time. I don't actually know why Morgiana doesn't go forward and tell Alibaba how she feels. I reckon during those ancient times a woman would rarely be the first to come out, but Morgiana is hardly an ordinary case in any way, plus she shows initiative very regularly in other matters. But I suppose simply the timing would have prevented that since they had decided to split up.

[shinta|hikari]

Does Morgiana even understand how she feels for Alibaba? Maybe the reason she turned down Hakuryuu is because of her loyalty to Alibaba, or at least that is what she thinks.

[Kraco]

Does Morgiana even understand how she feels for Alibaba? Maybe the reason she turned down Hakuryuu is because of her loyalty to Alibaba, or at least that is what she thinks.

It would certainly have been questionable before Hakuryuu's confession, but surely that incident made her think. Maybe the truth hasn't quite hit her yet, and she'll need the year of separation to realise it.

[DarthEnderX]

So...this is pretty much a completely different series now huh?

[Buffalobiian]

HS - S2 Episode 08 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=496171)


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So...this is pretty much a completely different series now huh?

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8320/nahv.jpg

Nah, same old.



They've split their training/adventure into 3 separate locations as opposed to doing it all in Sindria. If we're talking about the change in atmosphere/pace and all that, I still like Magi before Alibaba's arc the best.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, I'm just saying, it started out as this Arabian Knights fable-thing, and now it's Harry Potter.


Their choice of 8 elements is ... eh.

It's weird that there's no Earth magic. And I don't get what Power is supposed to be yet.

[shinta|hikari]

Something like Telekinesis?

Or maybe it is a physical buff magic.

[Kraco]

Still no sign of the darkness of Magnostadt. Quite interestingly it wasn't evident even during these training sessions. They didn't make the students compete against each other, let alone encourage any means necessary to get strong or rise above others, but rather they were only beating their own weakness and were allowed to support each other. The teacher, while quite prussian in behavior, was still caring for them.

Are the nefarious plots and actions really the country's official stance or the work of a powerful sect that manages to drag the whole country into to them every now and then? Well, who knows. I'm sure we will learn in time.

The instructor's boobs serving as such an essential lifeline for Aladdin was funny and very fitting. That along with Aladdin falling asleep every time the roommate tried to tell his story will undoubtly be fond memories when the story now shifts to Alibaba and will be full of the usual loserness and emoness.

[NeoCybercoin]

Their darkness of Magnstadt shouldn't be visible to the normal students anyway. Most likely their research about dark metal vessels and stuff like that would be top secret. And if a student happens to stumble upon something that would help that research they would take it away. Saying that it's too dangerous or something.

[Ryllharu]

Magi S2 - 09 [HorribleSubs] (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=498435)




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They make it easy to forget that Alibaba is actually a very skilled dagger fighter. In addition to the royal style he started with, he also learned from Sinbad's best. His problem is that among magoi users, dungeon clearers, dark metal vessel monsters, magicians, and Sinbad's great heroes, he ends up looking pretty weak.

It was nice to see a regular fight too, although Toto used her Qi/magoi toward the end of it. Alibaba knows how to allow only the most narrow misses and parries in order to get in at his opponent.

It was also nice to see a country where they don't treat everyone like shit. All the beggars were getting food from random people. That said, they still mentioned that there are slaves working all over the place. Alibaba isn't too fond of that, though these ones don't seem to be mistreated. They're more like indentured servants for the most part.

[Kraco]

Alibaba's biggest problem is his mentality. There's no problem with his skills technically speaking, like you said. Though now it was revealed he has a chimera magoi issue going on, but it makes sense the main character has an extra attribute difficult to master but powerful when under control. But he's still an idiot for the most part, and that's holding him back. I suppose being a well-meaning fool will gain him sympathy points from various decent people, so it fortunately helps him as often as it hampers his progress.

[David75]

Toto might be hot. At least she doesn't seem to be underage and underdeveloped...

[Ryllharu]

Though now it was revealed he has a chimera magoi issue going on, but it makes sense the main character has an extra attribute difficult to master but powerful when under control.
Quite interesting that they made it very clear it was Kassim's magoi. Alibaba seems to have inherited Kassim's will when he mercy-killed him, rather than them just having a moment. I guess the question would be whether it is some dark, poisoned magoi he'll need to dominate, or if it is just Kassim's determination to bring justice to the world.

I'm also surprised that Kassim's really dwarfs Alibaba's own. Aladdin sees a very different view of Alibaba's potential, to the point where it is almost greater than Sinbad's. The others here see Alibaba not really registering much at all.

[Kraco]

I'm also surprised that Kassim's really dwarfs Alibaba's own. Aladdin sees a very different view of Alibaba's potential, to the point where it is almost greater than Sinbad's.

Maybe having two different magoi is exceedingly exceptional and, when it happens to happen, usually only temporal. That would explain why the master in this episode recognized it promptly and knew something about the condition, but people at large, even in Sindria, never even thought about it. Sinbad actually suffered for a while a condition something like this when he was "poisoned" and not able to use his powers during the invasion. The fact Alibaba has been using his powers all the time might have fooled everybody who actually know him. However, Aladdin is a magi, and he might have actually had a premonition of Alibaba being an exception who could master two different magoi in his body, and thus far greater than everybody thinks.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm also surprised that Kassim's really dwarfs Alibaba's own. Aladdin sees a very different view of Alibaba's potential, to the point where it is almost greater than Sinbad's. The others here see Alibaba not really registering much at all.

I'm not too surprised. Kassim had some powerups and all, and I kind of thought that since Kassim gave his entire life away as Magoi that it'd be stronger than Alibaba's. Aladdin also saw character potential in Alibaba more so than Magoi potential I thought, so strength didn't really have anything to do with it here.


Sinbad actually suffered for a while a condition something like this when he was "poisoned" and not able to use his powers during the invasion.

Sounds like someone forcefully injected foreign Magoi into Sinbad to disrupt him then. I guess that malicious Magoi would really kill you, but while Kassim's is different he doesn't have that intent... they're just not in sync.


However, Aladdin is a magi, and he might have actually had a premonition of Alibaba being an exception who could master two different magoi in his body, and thus far greater than everybody thinks.

I wonder about that. Aladdin mainly used external Ruhk, and didn't even know about the different magic types etc. That all sounds like the external application of magoi though. Qigong would be concerned about the internal flow and manipulation more so than external manifestation, even if they all boil down to studying applications of Qi/Magoi/Chakra/The Force.


Toto might be hot.

What do you mean "might"? Toto is hot DAMN. Alibaba gets the best girls (except when he asks for them at cabarets).

[Ryllharu]

Alibaba gets the best girls (except when he asks for them at cabarets).
He always gets the best girls. He asks for the most popular, and he gets them no question, regardless of who else they might have been busy with.

Aladdin only get the pretty girls who gladly loan him their boobies to play with.

[Kraco]

You would think Alibaba by now would be experienced enough not to ask for a new girl blindly but would choose from the ones he sees with his own eyes. Or even better: Go for Morgiana.

[DarthEnderX]

Hmm, I thought each character was going to have their own separate story arc here. But I guess they're just going to switch back and forth between the 3 of them.


You would think Alibaba by now would be experienced enough not to ask for a new girl blindly but would choose from the ones he sees with his own eyes.Exactly. Bird in the hand Alibaba! Bird in the hand!

[shinta|hikari]

I am so excited about this coming fight.

Alibaba is a perv. He cut up Toto's clothes pretending to be a gentleman (and not hurting her) but that look at the end of the match says otherwise.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - S2 Episode 10 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=500496)

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Alibaba not sucking is soooo much fun to watch. I was already mentally telling him to break the sword down so he could use it like a dagger right at the beginning of the fight, but it turned out that way towards the end anyway. That Fanalis lady too.. :3

On the other hand, I thought it was stupid that Alibaba didn't know this was a fight to the death.

[Kraco]

I was rooting for the rancor very soon after the match started. But perhaps this experience and enlightement will make Alibaba a better man and end his days as a whiner and loser. As much as the Japanese love miserable main characters, surely this is already enough.

The episode could have used a bit more Morgiana, but at least the last seconds were something.

[shinta|hikari]

On the other hand, I thought it was stupid that Alibaba didn't know this was a fight to the death.

He did say in the previous episode that he thought that the place was just for competition. It seems that the idea of a coliseum and gladiator fighting is completely foreign to him.

[Ryllharu]

Nice Alibaba. Way to make Toto all warm and gooey, and then ruin it immediately.

I'm very curious how/why the Fanalis homeland was supposedly abandoned, when there are Fanalis all over the place. They're not all slaves.

[Buffalobiian]

Nice Alibaba. Way to make Toto all warm and gooey, and then ruin it immediately.

I'm very curious how/why the Fanalis homeland was supposedly abandoned, when there are Fanalis all over the place. They're not all slaves.

They're also all pretty combat capable. Maybe it was a starving land and they were attracted by all the civilisation happening around them? That would be my best bet so far.

[DarthEnderX]

So the obvious question now is, when you fuse together a whiny bitch and a complete asshole, does it somehow make a cool dude?

The math on that doesn't add up, but that seems to be the direction they're headed.

[Buffalobiian]

So the obvious question now is, when you fuse together a whiny bitch and a complete asshole, does it somehow make a cool dude?

The math on that doesn't add up, but that seems to be the direction they're headed.

I think the fuse was between "someone without power and conviction but has a good heart" and "someone with power/conviction but a questionable outlook". I get the feeling that after Alibaba realised what he had to do (gained conviction), Kassim was able to relinquish his power full for Alibaba to control (Alibaba gained power, Kassim trusted Alibaba enough then go let him decide how to use his life-force).

[shinta|hikari]

Do magoi contain that level of personality traits?

Isn't it just 1 weak magoi + 1 strong magoi = 1 stronger magoi?

[DarthEnderX]

You'd think that, but the entire scene after his fight gives the impression that he's suddenly inheiriting personality traits from Kassim. Like suddenly, he's a smoker all of a sudden.

[neflight86]

Yeah; my eyebrow gained a short autonomy when I saw Alibaba whip out a Kristoff like it was that time of the day. Funny stuff.

[NeoCybercoin]

HS-Episode 11-1080p (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=502658)

[Buffalobiian]

I wish they'd tell us already why returning from the Dark Continent is near impossible. I'm guessing that the "Dark Continent" wasn't separated by this Great Rift until fairly recently. How else would normal people have crossed it?

That whole abyss thing really plays with your mind. The portrayal was quite well done.