JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

[Archangel]

http://i.imgur.com/3GrnBJb.jpg

Yummie

[shinta|hikari]

I dunno, I actually still find this very entertaining. The current Jojo is like an improved version of the previous ones in terms of pure battle ability. He has the wits and power to overwhelm enemies. The only thing I don't like about him is his emo-serious personality.

I hope people start dying so we can have the sense of dread and urgency we had in the earlier arcs.

[Buffalobiian]

Unfortunately he's no where near as entertaining as Joseph's "Now you're going to say X" play though. Man I missed that. Now I know why Joseph just seems like an angry old man now who complains whenever things aren't American enough.

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[poopdeville]

Oh boy, just seven more stand users before Dio shows up. I bet each one will be stronger than the last, too.

On the plus side, each new stand is kind of a mystery, and this last one is pretty good so far.

[MFauli]

It´s tiring how none of those stand users are properly defeated, but always lose because of their own overconfidence and arrogance. THere was no reason for the ape to lose. Just walk away from Jojo and have the ship crush em all to death.

Still waiting for a real fight, therefore.

How old is the girl supposed to be btw? She´s way smaller than Jojo, but those guys are giants anyway. I didnt expect her to have that nice of a body.

[Buffalobiian]

How old is the girl supposed to be btw? She´s way smaller than Jojo, but those guys are giants anyway. I didnt expect her to have that nice of a body.

Neither did the ape, which I guess is why it stuck around

[DarthEnderX]

Arch's desk must be covered in jizz right now.



So, are all of these Stand users going to keep attacking this group of 5 people one at a time?

I suppose that makes sense since everyone but Jojo seems to be useless.

[MFauli]

I mean, attacking all 5 at once doesnt matter, since apparently all of Dio´s people are stupid as hell. The ape would have won, had he not jumped at Jojo.

[Buffalobiian]

I mean, attacking all 5 at once doesnt matter, since apparently all of Dio´s people are stupid as hell. The ape would have won, had he not jumped at Jojo.

That said, if someone has to be stupid, it might as well be an ape.

[poopdeville]

Seriously, remember when Jonathan was fighting Bruford, and the only reason he won was because he was an epic hero? Or when he fought Tarkus, and only won because Zeppeli got himself killed? Stuff used to happen on this show. Cool stuff. Funny stuff. Heroic stuff. There was a mystery. And a sense of urgency to kill Dio and, later, the Pillar Men.

The Japanese are nuts if this is their favorite arc. Dio needs to man up and actually do something, even if it has nothing to do with the party.

[DarthEnderX]

Dio needs to man up and actually do something, even if it has nothing to do with the party.Well, he literally has no objective other than to be the Big Bad right now.

It's not like Kars, who wanted the stone. Dio has already basically achieved whatever it was he wanted. All he really needs to do is kill the Joestars when they show up. And he's not going to go out after them because, then we wouldn't have a story arc.

Also, he still dies in sunlight, so that's a good excuse not to travel much.

[DarthEnderX]

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So apparently, the reason it seems like the whole "naming characters after musicians" thing has been dropped is because whoever is doing the subtitles is changing the names.

This Soul Sacrifice character's name is supposed to be Devo. And that Captain Dragon from 2 episodes ago was actually Captain Tennile.

[MFauli]

The episodic nature of this season of jojo is really tiring. :/

I want more elaborate fights, more actual danger and stuff. This feels like "monster of the week"-crap.

[DarthEnderX]

Yeah but if they're all tarot cards there's SO many monsters of the week!

There's what, like 78 cards in a Tarot Deck?

Having only, like 3 enemies in an entire arc was also fine when you only had two protagonists.

Once you have 5 protagonists, you need more enemies yo!

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah but if they're all tarot cards there's SO many monsters of the week!

There's what, like 78 cards in a Tarot Deck?

Having only, like 3 enemies in an entire arc was also fine when you only had two protagonists.

Once you have 5 protagonists, you need more enemies yo!

They're only going with the Major Arcana cards, so there aren't that many to go through. It sucks that the subber decided to change the character names around. Who cares if 13yo don't get or care about old school musician names.

[MFauli]

And i want you to shut the hell up

You sad little shit. Not only can you not accept different opinions, you also have to resort to anonymous insults on my rep page. Seriously? If I felt the need to insult any member here, I would do it in public.

[Carnage]

I would give the Japanese a little more credit, we're used to this style of storytelling but apparently this was one of the first tales to be told this way in manga (maybe the first?). I think the Fist of the North Star author was inspired by part III's art and fighting styles, it is kind of apparent. We're so used to it everything seems cliche but back then it must have been incredibly interesting as something entirely new.

[DarthEnderX]

Who cares if 13yo don't get or care about old school musician names.I'm pretty sure the reasoning for the changes is fear of legal action, not that people wouldn't get the references.


I would give the Japanese a little more credit, we're used to this style of storytelling but apparently this was one of the first tales to be told this way in manga (maybe the first?). I think the Fist of the North Star author was inspired by part III's art and fighting styles, it is kind of apparent. We're so used to it everything seems cliche but back then it must have been incredibly interesting as something entirely new.So basically, it's suffering from the Seinfeld is Unfunny (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny) trope.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm pretty sure the reasoning for the changes is fear of legal action, not that people wouldn't get the references.



I'm to assume that the first run got received some legal issues then? They left those in, after all.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm to assume that the first run got received some legal issues then? They left those in, after all.No idea. It might have to do with the specific names that are being used. And they're just changing the names of the ones that might be problematic.

Ronnie James Dio probably didn't have a copyright on the name Dio(also, he's dead). Whereas The Captain and Tennille probably is.

Especially given that The Captain's real name is Daryl Dragon. So calling him Captain Dragon is the translator still referencing the same musician, just without using the probably copywritten name of his act.

[poopdeville]

I don't see why HorribleSubs would give a shit. They already translate the "don't copy" warning verbatim. And the Japanese script clearly said "Devo", but Horrible changed that name too.

On a different note, this week's episode reminded me of the Richard Matheson short story titled "Prey". And it creeped me out a little bit. Maybe because I watched Chucky 2 when I was like 8.

[Buffalobiian]

It was pretty creepy, particularly because Silver Chariot was minor enough a character that he could well die (until you remember that he's got that mission to find the 2-RHand-man).

[DarthEnderX]

I don't see why HorribleSubs would give a shit.HorribleSubs doesn't actually translate anything. They just rip video from other streaming sites.

In this instance, they're probably ripping Crunchyroll, who actually license the anime they stream, So they're probably using the "official" subtitles.

I know Soul Sacrifice is the name that Viz Media gave to Devo, so I'm guessing their in charge of the translations.

[MFauli]

this current jojo is the worst piece of shit "hero" ever. watches as kakyoin is killing the thief (who looked oddly healthy afterwards). Reallly?!

[DarthEnderX]

I'm not sure guys, but I THINK this Centerfold guy might actually be named J. Geils. :p

I think we need some gifs of Kakyoin eating that cherry.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/rubbersoul-taunt.gif


this current jojo is the worst piece of shit "hero" ever. watches as kakyoin is killing the thief (who looked oddly healthy afterwards). Reallly?!I don't think he's intended to be a hero. He's apathetic. If his mother wasn't dying, he wouldn't even be doing any of this.

[shinta|hikari]

He's a tsundere. He tries to act all cold, but always does the right and heroic thing in the end. He did in fact save the little girl from drowning, the thief, and is trying to save his mother who he always acted cold to, and the world on the side.

[DarthEnderX]

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That sucks...

Seems like The Hanged Man can only attack you when your reflection is visible in something. Interesting that it's invisibility seems to extend to the user as well.

The Emperor is a cool Stand. Can't go wrong with curving bullets.

[MFauli]

i hope this marks the turning point in the story where things get more dangerous and life theatening.

[shinta|hikari]

Agreed. If Avdol somehow resurrects from this, I will be severely disappointed.

[Buffalobiian]

I think it's more likely than not that Avdol will resurrect from this. There was a strange "evaporation" going on when he was held by Kakyoin. His stand is also a fire bird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_%28mythology%29), so it's entirely possible. It already had an impact on me this episode, so I'll forgive them since I've already adjusted to the mildness of this current arc.


Seems like The Hanged Man can only attack you when your reflection is visible in something. Interesting that it's invisibility seems to extend to the user as well.

That was an interesting scene. When it was raining you could see Centrefold, but when the rain stopped you couldn't. I suppose that means that Centrefold can make himself invisible (but I'm sure that he himself remains visible in the reflection), but that screws up when it rains.

[Xelbair]

copypasting from wikipedia about name changes in translation(only for characters that already appeared)


He is named after the new wave group Devo. In Viz Media's translation of the manga and the Crunchyroll simulcast, he is named "Soul Sacrifice", after the instrumental of the same name by Santana.


The name Forever is from the album Wu-Tang Forever.


he name Captain Tennille is from the pop duo Captain & Tennille. In the Crunchyroll translation of the 2014 anime, he is renamed "Captain Dragon" after Captain & Tennille's "Captain" Daryl Dragon.


Gray Fly. He is named after Glenn Frey.


Hol Horse. He is named after the pop duo Hall & Oates.


He is named after the rock group The J. Geils Band. he has been renamed "Centerfold", after the song of the same name by the J. Geils Band.

[MFauli]

i have a hard time believing joseph wouldnt notice somethng being attached to his body.

also, letting that guy escape is dumb, he killed your friend! :/

[poopdeville]

Shit is finally getting for serious.

[DarthEnderX]

The name Forever is from the album Wu-Tang Forever.There is no fucking way that's true. That character existed 7 years before that album did.

[Buffalobiian]

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Hah, go Joseph! Good to know he still has it in him. It wasn't quite a magic trick, but that's still sleight of stand and the quick thinking we liked about him. Add in the "You're going to say" antic and it almost feels like the good old times.

[MFauli]

sucked that his ripple failed. That would have been super nice, defeating an enemy with the "old" abilities. But Joseph was still cool.

Nonetheless, this second seasons sucks compared to the first Jojo-season. It´s just too goofy, too carefree, too ... funny. Each enemy is a one-episode one-shot. And never do I get the feelng of real danger from what happens.

Meh :/

[Buffalobiian]

I got a feeling of danger this time, since they could kill off Joseph for being an "old timer" so to speak. You obviously can't kill Jotaro since he hasn't knocked anyone up yet.

[poopdeville]

Unless Joseph ends up getting another girl preggers.

[DarthEnderX]

Each enemy is a one-episode one-shot.So was everyone in the first arc except Dio.

[MFauli]

So was everyone in the first arc except Dio.


thats not true, but its too obvious so i wont go through the effort to list enemies that lasted for more than one episode.

[DarthEnderX]

thats not true, but its too obvious so i wont go through the effort to list enemies that lasted for more than one episode.Well, the entire arc only lasted 9 episodes, and half of the arc took place before they even introduced vampires into the series, so you'd have a hard time finding time to give ANYONE multiple episodes.

I assume you're talking about Tarkus and Blueford, who were in a couple episodes, but there's also two of them, so that's pretty much the same as being a being a one-episode wonder. If it's not, then your statement is still wrong, because the Centerfold and Hol Horse fight spanned multiple episodes, and Hol Horse still isn't even dead yet.

[poopdeville]

The problem with this season isn't one shotting. It's the monster of the week format. It's like watching a friend play a video game. "Oh, we're in Singapore-land now. And there's the boss"

At least the danger has gone up some, recently, with Avdol dying, and Joseph getting really hurt.

I kind of feel like playing super mario 3 now, though.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 14 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=571182)

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Hol Horse really is a dumbass.

[MFauli]

Everybody is a dumbass.

Everyone knows something is up in the air, but instead of talking about it with each other, theyre all like "no, its nothing". makes me so angry.

[DarthEnderX]

Everybody is a dumbass.

Everyone knows something is up in the air, but instead of talking about it with each other, theyre all like "no, its nothing". makes me so angry.Truer words have never been spoken.

Literally EVERYTHING they've encountered so far has ended up being a Stand. Why they're still so skeptical after all this time is astounding.

And they are seriously Scooby Doo with their levels of constantly splitting up.


Hol Horse really is a dumbass.I dunno why. Everything he said was true. Centerfold DID chase after Polnareff on his own and got himself killed before Hol Horse even showed up. He really didn't abandon Centerfold. At least, not until after he was dead anyway.

[Buffalobiian]

I dunno why. Everything he said was true. Centerfold DID chase after Polnareff on his own and got himself killed before Hol Horse even showed up. He really didn't abandon Centerfold. At least, not until after he was dead anyway.

I was talking about putting a stand into the hand that your enemy is controlling.

And also claiming to be best buds with this guy who just died when you weren't. I'd be suspicious as fuck and never claim I was really good buds with someone. Sure, you could inherit $100000 dollars or something.. or perhaps in debt.

[DarthEnderX]

I was talking about putting a stand into the hand that your enemy is controlling.Oh, yeah. That's true. I don't know if he CAN manifest it into he left hand, but if so, he clearly should have.

Also, you know, maybe not taking the time to throw an insult before pulling the trigger. But that's anime.

[DarthEnderX]

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Haha, Hol Horse. You so cowardly.

[Buffalobiian]

Damn I love Joseph. Giving Polnareff shit and all.

[MFauli]

episode 16 is out!
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Found it hilarious how everyone was standing super close to each other, friends or enemy, just because everybody knew that Dan mustn´t be attacked. :D

I didn´t understand why they left the old lady to die, though. Just push her into the sunlight and Dio´s cells would have died off?

[DarthEnderX]

Heh, Steely Dan...


So, couldn't they have just cut of Dan's hand, and all that would do is break Joseph's mechanical hand?

Then you just threaten to let Dan bleed to death if he doesn't remove his stand.


Also, Dan should be completely fucking useless against more than one enemy at a time.

"Haha, in 10 minutes, that bud is going to kill your friend, then I'll move my Stand to the next one of you."

"Okay, so in 9:30 seconds, when I'm sure it's too late to save my friend, I'm going to kill you. Sure, that'll kill my friend too, but he was going to die anyway, and at least you won't be able to get any more of us after that."

[shinta|hikari]

Killing one isn't being useless, but yes, this power is retarded. It is a suicide move, but the dude acts as if he is in control.

[oyabun]

They can just tie him up too so he won't be able to have a chance to hurt himself.

[DarthEnderX]

They can just tie him up too so he won't be able to have a chance to hurt himself.Sure, though that doesn't solve the "bud exploding out your brain in 10 minutes" problem.

[Buffalobiian]

Sure, though that doesn't solve the "bud exploding out your brain in 10 minutes" problem.

You know, the way Dan was talking about how the Bud was going to be certain kill and all, the immediate thought should be "fuck it, Joseph's a lost cause, let's just take this guy out". You don't even have to wait till 9:30.

[DarthEnderX]

You know, the way Dan was talking about how the Bud was going to be certain kill and all, the immediate thought should be "fuck it, Joseph's a lost cause, let's just take this guy out". You don't even have to wait till 9:30.Also, can't Joseph just use the Ripple to destroy the bud? It's his own body, he should totally be able to channel Sunlight Overdrive through it. Sure, it won't effect the Stand inside him, but that apparently doesn't do anything on it's own.

[Archangel]

Also, can't Joseph just use the Ripple to destroy the bud? It's his own body, he should totally be able to channel Sunlight Overdrive through it. Sure, it won't effect the Stand inside him, but that apparently doesn't do anything on it's own.

Because he didn't major in ripple neurosurgery?

[DarthEnderX]

Because he didn't major in ripple neurosurgery?Why would he need to? He's not a vampire, but Dio's bud is. He should be able to just channel the Yellow Ripple through his entire body and burn out the bud.

[Buffalobiian]

Why would he need to? He's not a vampire, but Dio's bud is. He should be able to just channel the Yellow Ripple through his entire body and burn out the bud.

That.. is actually a very good idea.

[DarthEnderX]

I mean, lets be honest, the writer obviously decided to just make Stands immune to the Ripple to keep the guy who defeated Pillar Men from completely steamrolling all the enemies in this arc. Even if he is an old man.

[Crash]

So i've spent the last couple weeks watching all of this show. The first two arcs might possibly be the single greatest and manliest thing to ever grace television. This third arc seems to be leaning more toward the side of silly, and i dunno everything seems much less dire and over the top.

But yeah i'm with Darth, as soon as Dan said he planted a bud in Joseph my first thought was "well that's dumb, dudes just gonna ripple it to death." It's more than a little disappointing that he hasn't thought of it at this point. It also makes me sad that he's gone from the super confident hero with a plan for everything, to an old man version of Kevin McCallister who just throws his hands up to his face and yells "Oh my God!" every time anything happens. I mean i know Jotaro is the main hero here, but did Joseph really need to be demoted to the comic relief roll?

[shinta|hikari]

I agree.

[DarthEnderX]

I mean i know Jotaro is the main hero here, but did Joseph really need to be demoted to the comic relief roll?Well, he was always silly, even when he was the hero.

Problem is he used to be a badass. Used to beat up physical gods with a bola. Now he's the weakest guy on the team.

I mean, okay, Ripple doesn't work on Stands. But it should still work on the users right? Most of these fights should be ending with Joseph punching a Ripple into a guys face.


It's more than a little disappointing that he hasn't thought of it at this point.Yeah, this is definitely a problem I'm having with this entire arc. The characters are SUPER stupid and gullible. Jotaro seems to be the only clever one in the bunch, and even he tends to let the badguys do what they want for WAY to long before finally taking action.


If this is the most popular arc of this series, the final battle must be amazing or something.

[shinta|hikari]

It is probably because this arc is much more shounen oriented that it is popular. The previous ones were much more serious.

[Crash]

Well, he was always silly, even when he was the hero
Yeah, but somehow it felt different in his arc. Can't quite put my finger on why i guess, but when he was the hero those moments of sillyness were often funny and just made him more awesome. Now they just seem aimed at making him look foolish.



If this is the most popular arc of this series, the final battle must be amazing or something.

I sure hope so, this arc is in much need of some first arc Dio awesomeness. His lack of presence thus far is unfortunate, but i guess since he's stuck in Egypt for whatever reason he can't just pop out to taunt the group.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, but somehow it felt different in his arc. Can't quite put my finger on why i guess, but when he was the hero those moments of sillyness were often funny and just made him more awesome. Now they just seem aimed at making him look foolish.


He was silly, but he was smart. His silliness was used to his advantage because it often meant his opponents underestimated him.

Remember how the vampire removed his coat or something and ripped off 7 grenade pins attached to him? (and then you'll say... !!!!)

Jotaro has the same aptitude minus that very entertainment factor that made Joseph so awesome.

Current Joseph is also rather serious and not very uplifting. It was so nostalgic when he made fun of Polnareff for shits and giggles.

[DarthEnderX]

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Oh good. Joseph did exactly what I thought he should.

[MFauli]

episode 18 is out
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i think i hate this season now, like, officially. The first half was super stupid, sillly jokes everywhere. When The Sun entered the stage and everybody started dying, it actually felt like the Jojo that I was used to when watching season 1. It felt threatening, dangerous, existential. Simply awesome.

And then the enemy is ko-ed with a stone throw. WAT.
Even worse, everybody started laughing like mad... and it was NOT because of a sun/heat stroke. This made no sense, since Jotaro had never been portrayed as somebody who´d laugh as outgoingly as he did.

Sigh.

[Crash]

Yeah this whole episode was just boring, bad, and pointless. So little of this arc has had any real impact on story/character development, i don't even know why it exists. Nothing interesting has happened since Avdol died, and the tone of the arc in general makes me wonder if anyone remembers Jotaro's mom is dying. I know i sure as hell forgot until the thought "why are they after Dio this time anyway?" popped into my head. Such a great show has fallen so far in a single arc, i'm sad. Also Stands are BOOOOOORRRRIIIIINNNGGG!

[poopdeville]

19 is out.








Death 13 is pretty bad ass.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, his dreams are actually pretty scary. Kakyoin carving the message onto his hand was exactly what I would have done, good on him! Sucks that he's mentally shitty right now and can't interpret it properly. That's alright though, we can always count on Jotaro to rescue them :S.

Hermit Purple flying a plane came out of nowhere. It'd have made more sense for it to forcefully steer the plane than to invade its electronics.

[poopdeville]

Especially since a Cessna isn't fly-by-wire...

I think it's too bad the group just assumed Kakyoin is flipping out. How many times have Dio's lackeys played mind games/put them in the center of a horror movie?[1] (It's almost as if they never watched Scream.) It put Kakyoin in a position where he can trust himself to tell the others about his arm.

[1] So far, they've done:

Death Ship
Christine/Duel
Nightmare on Elm Street
Child's Play
Richard Matheson's Prey (which he adapted into "Amelia" for the "Trilogy of Terror")
The Blob

[DarthEnderX]

Alright, now I'm starting to get annoyed too.


The amount of mind bogglingly stupid decisions they have to make in order to force the plot in this is just ridiculous at this point.

Seriously, what the hell is the point of hiding the message from the others?!

And why does EVERY TIME weird shit happens, they shrug it off when it's ALWAYS a fucking Stand!

Seriously, all of these episodes should be about 5 minutes long.


I will say though, that Hermit Purple has gone from more or less being a purely plot advancement tool, into something that now more or less controls any kind of machine. That's some progress. As expected of Joseph.

[MFauli]

this is so indefensable stupid, shit sucks. The moment Kakyoin decided to hide the blood message on his arm from the others made all my muscles contract from sheer disbelief. so dumb.

[Crash]

this is so indefensable stupid, shit sucks. The moment Kakyoin decided to hide the blood message on his arm from the others made all my muscles contract from sheer disbelief. so dumb.

Yeah, it was a pretty good episode up until that moment. I'm gonna finish out this arc, because at this point i might as well see how it ends, but i don't think i'll be watching the next arc unless i hear it's made significant strides back to the path of it's former glory.

[poopdeville]

Episode 20:



"HOLY SHIT" Joseph is too funny.

Also, I've had enough of the diaper changing. Though the ending was pretty hilarious.

[MFauli]

ok, Kakyoin´s grin at the end when Joseph fed the baby was great. Super satisfying. Although letting the baby live is dumb. How are they keeping the baby from running rampant on innocent people? They´re letting a monster loose.

[DarthEnderX]

I thought for sure either Joseph or Polnareff was going to try and convince the baby to eat by taking a bite themselves.

[Buffalobiian]

ok, Kakyoin´s grin at the end when Joseph fed the baby was great. Super satisfying. Although letting the baby live is dumb. How are they keeping the baby from running rampant on innocent people? They´re letting a monster loose.

Well, being a "cursed" baby that kills everyone around them isn't exactly the best thing for survival.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, being a "cursed" baby that kills everyone around them isn't exactly the best thing for survival.Yeah, I was wondering how exactly he was planning to get out of the desert after killing everyone.

[shinta|hikari]

By escaping through the plot hole.

[poopdeville]

21:








Judgement is a pretty cool stand. Who is the user, though? Avdol's dad?

[Buffalobiian]

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Judgement is a pretty cool stand. Who is the user, though? Avdol's dad?

Yep. I think that's the case.

[MFauli]

episode 22 is out
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sigh, this series has gone to shit. the previous two Jojos were so much better.

[DarthEnderX]

What a twist!

When the second Avdol showed up, at first I thought Polnareff was mistaking Avdol's dad for Avdol.



Haha, the series seems to have gotten really big on toilet humor for some reason.

[Buffalobiian]

"We didn't tell you because we didn't want the enemy to know"

-Genie turns up on the island.

Totally called Avdol coming back, even if for a completely different reason. ;)

[poopdeville]

So, this was ep 22. I doubt they'll even meet Dio by ep 26. Is this a 39 episode season? 52?

[MFauli]

i dont even get how they´ll present this Dio-confrontation. Will he be just another of these 1-2 episode monster-of-the week monsters? Because right now I dont feel any excitement for that moment.

Joseph: "OH NO, it´s Dio!"
Avdol: "His power ... it´s even more fearsome than it was back then ..."
Polnareff: "I´m sorry, dear sister. I don´t think I can beat this ... thing."
Kakyoin: "I will use my stand to cut off one of his arm. Please, everyone, use my death to defeat this monster."
Dio: "Uahahaha! There they are! Joestars of two generations! Well then ... let me taste your flesh, before it disappears from this world forever!"
Jotaro: "Hrmpf!"

Two episodes of fighting, the end.

I mean, after how episodic this arc has been, I just don´t feel it. Dunno. Don´t expect anything remarkable :/

[Carnage]

This is a 52 episode season, and from what I've heard the second half is much better than the first. Could be wrong though.

[poopdeville]

I believe it. It has gotten steadily better, even if Avdol miraculously survived.

A submarine, though? Really?

Also, assuming that next week's monster of the week is on the sub, if Dio's minions knew to place a stand user on the sub, how did they not know Avdol was alive?

[Buffalobiian]

I believe it. It has gotten steadily better, even if Avdol miraculously survived.

A submarine, though? Really?

Also, assuming that next week's monster of the week is on the sub, if Dio's minions knew to place a stand user on the sub, how did they not know Avdol was alive?

They did. That's why there was an enemy stand user on the island.

[poopdeville]

But then why was Judgement so surprised when Avdol showed up? Judgement thought he was dead.

I guess it comes down to Dio using Joseph's vine stand power. And also, being a really bad leader.

But it just never made sense to me that he could predict where they would go, especially when they go on "secret" detours.

[Buffalobiian]

But then why was Judgement so surprised when Avdol showed up? Judgement thought he was dead.

I guess it comes down to Dio using Joseph's vine stand power. And also, being a really bad leader.

But it just never made sense to me that he could predict where they would go, especially when they go on "secret" detours.

You're right. Shit's fucked up.

[DarthEnderX]

i dont even get how they´ll present this Dio-confrontation. Will he be just another of these 1-2 episode monster-of-the week monsters? Because right now I dont feel any excitement for that moment.I would seriously hope that there's enough Stand users with Dio that at most he only has to go up against both the Joestars at once, while the other 3 fight said minions.

[Crash]

Eh, so they took the one moment of the season with any emotional impact and turned it into a gag? Also wasn't Polnaref freaking bleeding to death right before Avdol showed back up and then suddenly wasn't? Did the power of his man-love heal him? The one saving grace is that Judgement was a legitimately cool enemy, and them screwing with the stand user at the end was hilarious. Why the hell would they get on a submarine though? At what point in this trip has getting into an enclosed, inescapable vehicle been anything but a disastrous, life threatening situation? At least in a plane they could bring a parachute, what the hell do they thing they're gonna do in a submarine? I feel like they are actively trying to die at all times, it's like watching a group of toddlers.

[DarthEnderX]

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Is it my imagination, or did episode 24's intro have a ton of sound effects in it that weren't in the previous episodes' intro?

Also, apparently the series is going on break until January. Which is kinda wtf for a series based on a 20 year old source material.

Anyway, hope the 2nd half is better than the first, which was rather mediocre overall.

[Buffalobiian]

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Is it my imagination, or did episode 24's intro have a ton of sound effects in it that weren't in the previous episodes' intro?



I see I'm not the only one then. Episode 24 was the first episode of Jojo that I watched on my phone for ages now and I wondered if the extra sound was due to weird codecs or something.

[DarthEnderX]

It's funny, because in that scene in the intro where the 5 shooting stars are shooting over the horizon, they added that scream for when the 6th star comes in from the side. I'd never noticed that star before, but the scream drew my attention to it. And I checked the older intro and it'd always been there.

Makes me think there's going to be a 6th member added in the 2nd half of this arc.

[Buffalobiian]

Jojo - Episode 25 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=643581)

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It's back! I rather enjoyed this given how the last series left me solely disappointed. At least these guys shouldn't be "proper" stand users so defeating them easily is more believable.

[DarthEnderX]

...that's a dog.


So, why would the number of possible Stand users be limited by the number of different cards in the Tarot deck? I thought naming them after Tarot cards was just a thing they did. What evidence was there that they were actually somehow connected?

[Buffalobiian]

There is none. It's an assumption.

[DarthEnderX]

There is none. It's an assumption.It's not. Avdol pretty much said as much. It just doesn't make any sense as to why HE would think that in the first place.

[DarthEnderX]

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It amuses me that they go to such lengths to change the character names to avoid an Oingo Boingo copywrite, but they can't do anything about the name being printed right on the front of the book. :P

Anyway, I think I enjoyed these two episodes more than anything else in the previous season. I hope all of the other Egyptian God stands are as cool.

[MFauli]

Ep27

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Just what happened to this anime? Ever since the return from the break, it´s complete shit. I had my complaints about the first half of the Stardust arc, but this latest episode was simply awful. Had to force myself not to fast forward. :/

Jonathan´s and Joseph´s arcs were so much better, so much more exciting. I hate this saturday morning cartoon-atmosphere. sigh

[DarthEnderX]

I feel like this was probably a nicely placed, jokey breather episode in the manga. But here, right after coming back from a 6 month break, it doesn't feel like that.

But yeah, this episode was dumb. But I really liked the other two, so...


Surprised they made a special end credits sequence just for these two characters.

[neflight86]

Yeah, Jojo long ago typecast itself as ridiculous (mecha Stroheim!?), so EPs like these fit right in to me. They've been getting nearly killed by single stand users for a while now, so its nice to have an accidental win to remind us that they don't have to be completely screwed.

[DarthEnderX]

Although it does just reinforce how stupid it is that the enemy Stand users keep attacking them one at a time.

Maybe this series just predates the anime trope of "all the good guys split off and each one gets their own badguy to have a 1-on-1 battle with" but these repeated 5-on-1 fights just makes the badguys seem really dumb.

And the one time two badguys actually worked together was the one time they almost actually killed one of the good guys.

[shinta|hikari]

The splitting up into one vs one scenario is similarly retarded though. There is usually little to no reason to do it because the good guys can just gang up on each enemy and finish them off much faster.

The funny thing is, everyone catches up at the end anyway.

[DarthEnderX]

There is usually little to no reason to do it because the good guys can just gang up on each enemy and finish them off much faster.But...then the badguys that they don't split up to fight individually can join up.

Then you have a 5-on-5. Which is just 5 1-on-1s, only more confusing.

[Buffalobiian]

But if you do that... you won't sell enough anime!

[shinta|hikari]

But...then the badguys that they don't split up to fight individually can join up.

Strange enough, the bad guys usually have a good reason to split up. Usually, the big bad is at the end of the road busy doing his thing, while his minions have their own territories and sub minions.

Only the good guys intentionally forgo teaming up just for the sake of forgoing it.


Then you have a 5-on-5. Which is just 5 1-on-1s, only more confusing.

Er, no? Team battles are completely different from 1 vs 1s. Its inherent complexity is likely one of the main reasons manga/anime authors avoid it.

[DarthEnderX]

Er, no? Team battles are completely different from 1 vs 1s. Its inherent complexity is likely one of the main reasons manga/anime authors avoid it.Well, like, for example, take One Piece in the Mermaid Island arc. All the good guys and bad guys fought in the same place, but even though they were all together, they still ended up going 1-on-1 or 2-on-2 against each other. It's not like either side fought as a single unit, supporting each other and doing combo attacks with each other or anything like that.

[shinta|hikari]

That's what I meant. Team fights are complex, so authors tend to shoe them into one vs one's. A true group battle is absolutely chaotic and very hard to write, but if pulled off well, should be far more interesting than done-to-death duels.

[DarthEnderX]

The Airbender shows do a really good job of it.

[DarthEnderX]

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I'm confused. I thought Stands only started appearing when Dio came back. So how did Anubis' master have one so long ago?

Also, the more obvious question of, how the hell does a Stand exist if it's master is dead?

[Buffalobiian]

I'm confused. I thought Stands only started appearing when Dio came back. So how did Anubis' master have one so long ago?

That's what I thought, but since then I've stopped thinking.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 30 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=655879), 31 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=658196)

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The sex jokes made this couplet the best it's been for ages. Too bad they ruined Mariah by making her throw ugly faces and phrases a few times, but it's still good.

Joseph's power is pretty weak and he stuffs up heaps, but that's what makes him great to watch. What exactly can't Star Platinum do?

[DarthEnderX]

Too bad they ruined Mariah by making her throw ugly faces and phrases a few times, but it's still good.This.


Joseph's power is pretty weak and he stuffs up heaps, but that's what makes him great to watch.He'd be a hell of a lot more powerful if Stands weren't just immune to Ripple for no reason.

Hermit Purple is weak physically, but I swear every week they invent a new way for it's clairvoyance to manifest itself. First it was cameras, then TVs, now dirt.

[Buffalobiian]

This.

He'd be a hell of a lot more powerful if Stands weren't just immune to Ripple for no reason.

Hermit Purple is weak physically, but I swear every week they invent a new way for it's clairvoyance to manifest itself. First it was cameras, then TVs, now dirt.

Oh, they've done dirt (particles) before. There was that time where Joseph had to escape from the stand that grew on his arm by sucking blood. He mapped out some tar or something in dirt while he fell.

The new thing that happened this time though, was that by showing Mariah's movements in real-time he upgraded the map to GPS.

How scary was mistaking the old lady's "amazing legs" though? Leggings are now the most deceptive thing next to makeup and corsets.

[DarthEnderX]

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"Polnareff, don't let your guard down."

"Who do you think you're talking too?"

He's talking to one of a group of five people who do nothing but let their guard down.

[Buffalobiian]

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"Polnareff, don't let your guard down."

"Who do you think you're talking too?"

He's talking to one of a group of five people who do nothing but let their guard down.

Yeah but it turned out totally awesome right? Even a kid knows that much.

[DarthEnderX]

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I think Jojo might be TOO much of a badass...

[Buffalobiian]

Hats off to Polnareff for keeping this woman safe though. The feels were strong this episode. He's already avenged his sister so he can actually settle down with her instead of continuing this quest to hunt Dio.

[DarthEnderX]

I don't think that's really an option.

If Jojo and Co. were to fail, there's no way Dio wouldn't come for Polnareff eventually. Dio has to be taken care of before any of them will be safe.

[DarthEnderX]

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Lul, Terence Trent D'arby reference.

[DarthEnderX]

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This episode was pretty badass until it got really goofy towards the end.

[shinta|hikari]

I have been stocking the Jojo episodes. Is this still worth watching or should I drop it like Tokyo Ghoul the anime? From scanning the comments, it seems to have taken a turn for the goofy, and I don't like that.

[Buffalobiian]

I have been stocking the Jojo episodes. Is this still worth watching or should I drop it like Tokyo Ghoul the anime? From scanning the comments, it seems to have taken a turn for the goofy, and I don't like that.

I'm not sure, I've got TG backed up myself.

I'd say this is better than TG, since this actually has a direction even if it's not one that we like. The water Stand was good, and latest stand was fun to watch and the two before that were accompanied with eyecandy if nothing else.

[DarthEnderX]

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Yay! More Hol Horse!

[neflight86]

Hol Horse is definitely my favorite stand user in the series so far. Stylistically, I love the "boom warp" sound when he summons the Emperor. It excites my inner 8 year old. Also, he's the only enemy to run away and live to fight another day.

Interestingly enough, this episode pretty much confirmed Dio has not put his mind parasyte in Hol. I wonder why he lets some of his agents retain their free will?

[MFauli]

that as the first good episode in months. Really enjoyed it. We got to see Dio and witness his strength. Hol Horse returned and the new team he created is truly funny. Just sucks that there´s no way for him to win. I hope he joins the good side soon, rather than fight Jojotachi until he´s inevitably killed.

Also, lol, this makes no sense: Dio says he´s not yet ready to face them. Then tell Hol Horse to kill them. What would he do if Hol Horse actually succeeded? Cry himself a river for not being able to defeat his sworn enemy by himself?

[Buffalobiian]

Every character that sends out his men to do his killing for him either:

1) values his security more than his pride, or
2) just wishes his men to whittle down enemy forces until he can take them on himself while keeping his pride

I'd say Dio's (1). He only sees Jonathan as a worthy person for him to take down personally. Everybody else is an obstacle. He was never "thrilled" by challenges.

[DarthEnderX]

Interestingly enough, this episode pretty much confirmed Dio has not put his mind parasyte in Hol. I wonder why he lets some of his agents retain their free will?Because they're serving him willingly.

Neither Polnareff nor Kakyoin actually wanted to serve Dio. So the parasites were needed to control them.

While he's not exactly thrilled about it, Hol Horse is still willingly serving Dio. So he doesn't need a parasite.


Also, lol, this makes no sense: Dio says he´s not yet ready to face them. Then tell Hol Horse to kill them. What would he do if Hol Horse actually succeeded? Cry himself a river for not being able to defeat his sworn enemy by himself?Dio really doesn't strike me as the "I must kill him with my own hands!" type.

He wants to rule the world, and he sees the Joestar's as the only threat to him. If his minions can kill them without him having to fight them, I don't think he'd complain.

Otherwise, why is he even sending minions in the first place?

[neflight86]

I guess I just find it odd he would leave it to chance like that. Hol was ready to try to blow him away, for all his allegiance was worth. Guess I'll chalk it up to the author deciding the villains having divergent personalities would be more fun... And he's probably right.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 37 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=673464)

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See, I never understood fate. Either it doesn't exist and everything is based on effort + luck, or it's set in stone and nothing can change it. That means if Hol Horse was fated to kill Jotaro with bullets, he could sit on his ass and fate would somehow make it so he kills. Paths of fate is BS.

The whole enjoyable part of this comic book was that the images could be interpreted wrongly but would still be depicted objectively. Jotaro got some muck on him from the pipe, but it wasn't the red liquid depicted by the book. Maybe this would have worked better in black/white manga.

[DarthEnderX]

That means if Hol Horse was fated to kill Jotaro with bullets, he could sit on his ass and fate would somehow make it so he kills.Well, that's literally what happened in the previous episode. The manga actually forced him to kick that women when he was dead set against doing it.

[Buffalobiian]

Well, that's literally what happened in the previous episode. The manga actually forced him to kick that women when he was dead set against doing it.

Exactly, so this shouldn't have happened today.

If Hol Horse was going to shoot the bullets at 12pm, he'd do it then. No need to rush, no need to race against time.

If fate was real and I got a reading that said I was going to be rich I'd sit on my ass an play games all day. After all, there's no point in trying. Whatever happens will happen.

[DarthEnderX]

If Hol Horse was going to shoot the bullets at 12pm, he'd do it then. No need to rush, no need to race against time.Very true. If it was 100% going to happen, he didn't need to be freaking out like that, because he should know fate would force it to happen.

Of course, if the manga forces you to do what you need to in order to make itself happen, then it's possible the manga itself was forcing Hol Horse to rush around in a panic.

[DarthEnderX]

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Why the hell is the fight between the animals the most badass fight of this arc?!

[Buffalobiian]

I reckon. Maybe it's because they're animals that they can jump and fly etc, while the humans are forced to fight while mostly standing in a room. Hol Horse + Mirror-dude was pretty good though.

The hawk is arguably the most bloodthirsty also. He's not letting Iggy live for some stupid shit.

[DarthEnderX]

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So much badassitude.

I'm glad Pet Shop was straight up dead. For some reason, the gang has been hospitalizing all their opponents lately. I was beginning to think the series was going soft.

[Buffalobiian]

How Pet Shop found/made that tunnel underneath Iggy and ambushed him there we'll never know.

Iggy should be worried about sepsis than blood loss, but Speedwagon doctors are gods as well.

Despite the above, still the most badass arc so far I think. Iggy vs Pet Shop was brutal because they were actually going for the kills each time. Iggy also had no plot armour.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 40 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=682438)

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The tension of racing games! That PV though..

[MFauli]

dat crappy retro racing game lol

I love how they just force their own playstyle on the game that is in no way meant to be played like this. But at least they´re no shitty snakers.

Since Kakyoin cannot win, assume itll end in a tie or loss for him.

[Buffalobiian]

I find retro games to be pretty good for multiplayer play, compared to many ultra modern ones. That's particularly for racing games. This isn't about being nostalgic, but about the fact that those old games often either had much more basic, yet ridiculous at times, mechanic. It makes the game a competition to exploit game mechanics as opposed to being as "realistic" as possible and simulating real life stuff. That's why we have arcade racers and racing simulators.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm not sure what makes you guys think that the game they are playing is retro(other than the fact that it's on a cartridge). It's not like the graphics are pixelated, or made up of primitive polygons or something.

[Buffalobiian]

The controller doesn't have an analogue stick / touch pad. That pre-dates the DualShock or the Nintendo64. That's getting to retro by modern standards.

You can "tap" the accelerator for some crazy accel start.

Those sound effects.

It's called "F-Mega"

If that game was real it'd be created no later than the Playstation, and I'm being generous here.

[DarthEnderX]

The controller doesn't have an analogue stick / touch pad. That pre-dates the DualShock or the Nintendo64. That's getting to retro by modern standards.

You can "tap" the accelerator for some crazy accel start.

Those sound effects.

It's called "F-Mega"

If that game was real it'd be created no later than the Playstation, and I'm being generous here.Keep in mind though that this was also WRITTEN before any of those things existed. And the anime more or less completely follows the manga.

The fact is the game itself LOOKS far more advanced than games of that era actually were. Yes, the controller doesn't have an analog stick, but that's because the author wouldn't have even know what an analog stick was. What with them having not existed before.

Point is, I don't think the game was intended to be a retro throwback...at the time. It was probably supposed to be cutting edge. Possibly even futuristic.

[Buffalobiian]

Your point is valid. Retro was my my perspective, not the character's.

I am comparing their game to say our latest NFS.

[MasterOfMoogles]

The game is almost certainly a parody of F-zero, which came out in 1990. Probably close enough to when this was written.

[Buffalobiian]

Retro style is style that is consciously derivative or imitative of trends, modes, fashions, or attitudes of the recent past.

The term retro has been in use since the 1970s to describe[1] on the one hand new artefacts that self-consciously refer to particular modes, motifs, techniques, and materials of the past.[2] But on the other hand, some people (incorrectly) use the term to categorise styles that have been created in the past.[3]

It seems I have been (incorrect). I stand corrected.

[DarthEnderX]

The game is almost certainly a parody of F-zero, which came out in 1990. Probably close enough to when this was written.Sure. But this game's graphics are infinitely better than those of the SNES. So, again, at the time you were probably supposed to think this game was amazing high-tech game.

[MFauli]

Sure. But this game's graphics are infinitely better than those of the SNES. So, again, at the time you were probably supposed to think this game was amazing high-tech game.

The game is shown with SNES-graphics in the beginning. It only switches to a more complex, detailed style for the audience´s sake - watching a SNES-game wouldn´t be exciting.

[DarthEnderX]

The game is shown with SNES-graphics in the beginning.Can you point out where exactly? I don't see that anywhere.

[MFauli]

episode 42 i out
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why did the subbers call him Cool Ice, when they´re clearly calling him Vanilla Ice?

[Buffalobiian]

That was highly entertaining.

[DarthEnderX]

Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

"I have an ability that senses living things. I'm sure it will be completely reliable in this vampire den."


why did the subbers call him Cool Ice, when they´re clearly calling him Vanilla Ice?They've been changing character names throughout this arc. I assume it's copyright related.

[Buffalobiian]

Iggy's nose didn't detect it either though. That was a big one.

And even a Stand's energy was supposed to be detectable. I think it's safe to say this Void Stand is a pretty big deal when first encountered.

[DarthEnderX]

And even a Stand's energy was supposed to be detectable.I don't remember him saying that, but you're right that there's no reason you shouldn't be able to smell a vampire I guess.

[neflight86]

Anyone else find it amusing when villains begin to refer to the flurry of Platinum star punches by actually calling it "ora ora thing"? I think the sword stand did that too.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, if one assumes the old Calling Your Attacks trope to be in effect, since that's the only thing he says when he does it, they don't really know what else to call it.

[Buffalobiian]

Anyone else find it amusing when villains begin to refer to the flurry of Platinum star punches by actually calling it "ora ora thing"? I think the sword stand did that too.

YES YES YES YES YES YES

[MFauli]

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If neither of the heroes is coming back to life by bullshit ass-pulls, these last couple episodes will have´been really great. Reminds me of the first two seaons of the anime, when it was starring Jonathan and Joseph. Finally, we´re getting real fights where heroes aren´t save just cause they´re heroes.

Damn, Polnareff :(

[DarthEnderX]

I'm confused.

I assumed Dio brought Ice back after cutting his own head off by making him a vampire. But he's apparently not, because sunlight doesn't seem to bother him.

So can Dio's blood just bring people back from the dead?



I also don't believe for a second that Avdol and Polnareff are dead. Ice says his dimension of darkness is like being disintegrated. But I'm sure it's just a portal. Otherwise, Ice himself wouldn't be able to sit in it's mouth.

I expect when Ice is defeated they'll just fall out of his pocket dimension.

[Harima Kenji]

I somewhat expect that as well, but in this series, you just don't know. Just because we've grown to like these characters more (more screentime) doesn't mean that they are invincible. In Joseph's story Ceasar got crushed as well and he was on the same 'hero' level as the people here.

[DarthEnderX]

That said, I do think the pieces he took from them still won't be connected to them anymore. So Polnareff won't be able to walk, Avdol's arms will still be cut off.

So while I don't think they're dead, I think Ice has taken 3 of the heroes out of the rest of this arc.

[Buffalobiian]

This entire episode I was expecting flames from Avdol to come bursting out of the hole and kill our Cool Ice.

No one needs real body parts. Whatever you had, Speedwagon Foundation will do better.

[DarthEnderX]

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Well...that ran counter to my prediction.

Kinda doesn't make sense that it took so long for Ice to become a vampire. If he was undead enough to come back from cutting off his head, he should have been undead enough for the rest of it right from the start.

It's too bad Polnareff won't be able to enjoy having been saved for very long...

[DarthEnderX]

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ZA WARUDO!

MUDA!MUDA!MUDA!MUDA!MUDA!MUDA!MUDA!

[MFauli]

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tbh that´s a really lame power. It´s so imba that the only reason for anybody not instantly being dead in front of Dio is his own volition to play with his opponents rather than finish them off as soon as possible.

Thinking for similar, but way better powers, I´m reminded of Hidan and Pain from Naruto, both featuring extremely deadly powers, but being limited in a way that allowed an opponent to defeat them with his own ability.

And fuck, spend 40 episodes of crappy, comedic fights where nobody dies, only to finish ém all off at once. :/

[DarthEnderX]

Hey, remember when Kakayoin could paint your picture, and then swipe the painting with a brush and it would cut you?

Seems like that would have been a good power to use at any other point in the series.


Any way, Time Stop is exactly the kind of power one would expect a Big Bad to have. I'm interested to see what happens when you give Guldo from DBZ's power to someone who doesn't completely suck in combat.


I'm pissed Joseph is dead. I was really hoping this arc would end with a Sunlight Yellow Overdrive to the face.

[Buffalobiian]

Hey, remember when Kakayoin could paint your picture, and then swipe the painting with a brush and it would cut you?


Oh, that existed too. It would have been even more imbalanced from a plot point of view than Time-Stop.

I really had hoped Jotaro would have reacted fast enough to the knife at Joseph. Oh well, he was cool. Heirophant's theme was cool as hell as well. :'(

What IS imbalanced is that The World seems to be everything that Star Platinum is with Time-Stop.

[MFauli]

My guess was that Star Platinum will be so fast that it can move despite time being stopped ... or being slowed down in that case. But since The World is equally as fast, that won´t be happening.

The outcome of the fight now hinges on how much playing around Dio decides to do.

[Buffalobiian]

My guess was that Star Platinum will be so fast that it can move despite time being stopped

. . . What?

Hint: speed = distance / time. Not happening.

[MFauli]

. . . What?

Hint: speed = distance / time. Not happening.

It happened in Heroes! speed girl talking to Hiro while he had "stopped" time.

[DarthEnderX]

What IS imbalanced is that The World seems to be everything that Star Platinum is with Time-Stop.Pssh. Can The World stretch his fingers out? I didn't think so.

[MasterOfMoogles]

This is the best thing about Dio's power:
http://i.imgur.com/GRSLkM7.gif

[DarthEnderX]

Lol, that's so true. When you think about it, Dio is actually really goofy.

[Buffalobiian]

Watch the OP, it changes slightly

HS - Episode 47 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=700599)



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That was tight. I really thought Dio would have died right at the end, but this persistence really is Dio for you. Too bad he becomes less manly after absorbing Joseph's blood. How does that even work?

[DarthEnderX]

I loved the changes to the OP. :p

I suppose that's one way to deal with having a villain with a broken power. Just give the hero the same power.

Not sure I understand why though. It made sense when Dio had the same power as Joseph and Holly, that vine theme, because it was like Dio had two stands. His own, and then Jonathan's. And you could think that Vine power just ran in the family.

But if Dio's own power is stopping time, not sure why Jotaro would have the same ability. Unless Jotaro's dad is secretly a Brando or something.


Too bad he becomes less manly after absorbing Joseph's blood. How does that even work?That's the Bishonen Line, baby!

[Harima Kenji]

Episode 48 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=702849)

Well, it's over.. It didn't give any hints to a next season.. has anyone got some news about this? I understand there is more in this series.

Even though Joseph's comeback was a bit of a stretch, it was a nice way to end this arc.
Jotaro's last attack, was that Hamon, or just a very hard kick?

[DarthEnderX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CamPXxfl7Lw

That was a pretty epic battle. Almost made up for the entire rest of this arc, which, I really don't understand the hype for.


Putting Dio's blood into Joseph seemed like a really bad idea. And I wonder if it's going to have repercussions later. At a MINIMUM it should have made Joseph a vampire.


Jotaro's last attack, was that Hamon, or just a very hard kick?I might have chalked it up to Jojo suddenly learning Hamon, but Hamon doesn't work on Stands.

But without using a Sunlight Overdrive, there's no real logical reason why that attack should have put down Dio. And there's no reason Dio shouldn't have just stopped time again while his legs healed.

[Buffalobiian]

Putting Dio's blood into Joseph seemed like a really bad idea. And I wonder if it's going to have repercussions later. At a MINIMUM it should have made Joseph a vampire.

Yep, since that's exactly what happened to the Void fellow (Vanilla Ice?) - but I suppose he didn't turn (for who knows why) until the first time he died. Perhaps Joseph Joestar will become our next villain?

I first thought Jotaro learned how to use the Ripple when he was younger, but on review I confused him with Joseph. Maybe Dio's leg wasn't healed properly after all?

Anichart (http://anichart.net/summer) hasn't listed more Jojo for the coming season, and I've heard of no news for more.

[DarthEnderX]

They were probably waiting to get all the ratings for this season before deciding to spend money animating the less popular seasons.


Maybe Dio's leg wasn't healed properly after all?Even if it wasn't, I don't know why A. A punch from Star Platinum would cause his whole body to blow apart and B. Why Dio couldn't just regenerate from it. Vampires seem to regenerate everything else.


How I thought this fight was going to go in the beginning, was that Jojo would have to defeat Dio, and then Joseph would finish him with a Sunlight Overdrive to the head.

[MasterOfMoogles]

I'm going to go with Jotaro doing a magical ripple punch at the end to cause Dio to explode.
When Joseph and Dio were fighting earlier, Joseph was using ripple-infused stand to protect himself, which Dio very carefully avoided punching with his own stand.

I'm also going to chalk Joseph not being a vampire up to ripple as well.

In the end, it doesn't really matter, because this is a bizarre adventure and anything goes.

[shinta|hikari]

I'm surprised people are still watching this despite the many inconsistencies described in the posts.

[MasterOfMoogles]

If anyone can get away with "rule of cool", it is JoJo.

[shinta|hikari]

I'm of the opinion that no one should get away with breaking rules they set themselves.

[MFauli]

tbh i found this final battle rather lackluster. It was an okay fight, a fun to watch fight. But after all this time of hyping up Dio as some sort of uber being, it was just too ... regular. Towards the end of the fight, it even felt as if Jotaro was the villain - super quickly adapting to The World´s powers, and even making Dio engage in careful approaches instead of simply punching Jotarl dead during stopped time. And he lost his cool too quickly, too.

Dont know.

[Buffalobiian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrTaVV0Hkng

[Munsu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrTaVV0Hkng

So... for everyone that doesn't know Japanese and could only understand the "4" and "To Be Continued":

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4 Manga Gets TV Anime

Diamond Is Unbreakable anime announced on Saturday

A television anime adaptation of Hirohiko Araki's JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4: Diamond Is Unbreakable (JoJo no Kimyō na Bōken: Diamond wa Kudakenai) manga has been green-lit. The announcement was made at the end of "The Last Crusaders" event for the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders anime in Tokyo on Saturday. The cast, broadcast dates, and other details have yet to be announced.


Text: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders
Map: Egypt
Map: Japan
Text: M Prefecture's S City
Text: Morioh Town
Text: Part 4
Text: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond Is Unbreakable
Text: TV Anime Adaptation Green-litttttt!!!
Part 4 of the manga is set in S City in M Prefecture of Japan, and the story follow the misadventures of Jōsuke Higashikata and his companions.

The JoJo's Bizarre Adventure television anime aired from October to April 2012, and covered the first two parts of the manga. The manga's Part 3 inspired another television anime project from April to September 2014, and from January to June 2015.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-24/jojo-bizarre-adventure-part-4-manga-gets-tv-anime/.94593

[Buffalobiian]

So... for everyone that doesn't know Japanese and could only understand MORE JOJO!


That's all you need to know. :D

[Munsu]

That's all you need to know. :D

Unless it had been a recap movie :)

[DarthEnderX]

Well, I'm certainly going to keep watching, because I'm already invested. But if Stardust Crusaders was the arc everyone said was the best one, I'm not going to get my hopes up too high.

[shinta|hikari]

On the other hand, if people think that was the best one, it is possible that the next arcs are more similar to the first two and thus not as "great."

[DarthEnderX]

Eh, I doubt it. I feel like the show isn't as good since they introduced "Stands" and I know characters use Stands for the rest of the series.

[MFauli]

episode 1 is out
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Did the art get even cheaper? It´s one thing to go for a certain style, but the simple coloring and lack of animation is really cheapening the overall impression. I cannot remember the beginning of this series to be that bad.

The episode´s contents were fine, though. I love the casual depiction of a villain who murders and rapes and has fun all the while. You don´t usually get to see it that clearly, only subtly hinting at such stuff. But here we got at least two scenes where he´s raping, and one post-rape victim in the present story. That´s fresh.

Obviously, we need to find out the limitations of Josuke´s ability. Surely, there has to be some sort of time limit, otherwise he could bring back the dead. I guess it´ll be something like 5 minutes at most, where he can return injuries to intact properties.

Two major points of criticism:

1.) WTF is going on with Jotaro´s hat?! It looks like it´s half-fused into his hair. PLEASE let there be a logical explanation for that. Please. God, it looks so dumb.

2.) It might be nice and advantageous strategically speaking, but no matter if you return that lady´s stomach back to normal, SHE WILL HAVE FELT THE PAIN! Fucking lol. Skewering her body with full force, that gotta hurt enough to drive you insane. Josuke migh THINK he´s a hero, but he´s actually an asshole, using his power like that. Same with the turtle, he should have saved it before it got painfully hurt. This reminds me of Ajin (I´m at episode 8), where it also is treated way to lightly how, despite being immortal, these characters still feel the pain. It doesn´t matter if you´re healed afterwards, having all your teeth smashed by a brute drill is going to hurt you beyond your believes. And I wonder if Ajin feels less pain. Though nothing points in that direction as of now. As for Josuke, it´s not even him who feels the pain - thus making this an asshole-power.

[Buffalobiian]

1.) WTF is going on with Jotaro´s hat?! It looks like it´s half-fused into his hair. PLEASE let there be a logical explanation for that. Please. God, it looks so dumb.

That's the art. It's been around since his first appearance.

[DarthEnderX]

This episode did seem to have an odd pastel palette.


That's the art. It's been around since his first appearance.Indeed. I complained about it in this very thread. It's always been that way.

[neflight86]

Agreed about the art. it immediately looked lower grade, but to be fair the first three seasons looked very distinct. Like that Jotaro is back so this 4th gen jojo can get some guidance, as he is easily the most submissive, least heroic jojo so far.

[Buffalobiian]

Indeed. I complained about it in this very thread. It's always been that way.

I think it looks cool. It's a bit weird now that his hat's white, but it's still stylish.

[DarthEnderX]

4 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=805184)















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Heh, Bad Company is a pretty cool stand.

Anyway, you guys don't seem to be talking about this season very much so far. It's definitely an odd departure from previous seasons. But, it seems like it might try and explain some things that Season 3 never bothered to, like where the fuck Stands come from.

[Buffalobiian]

But, it seems like it might try and explain some things that Season 3 never bothered to, like where the fuck Stands come from.

That seems to be the case over the last 4 seasons.

Introduce Ripple, explain Ripple.
Introduce Stand, explain Stand.

[DarthEnderX]

Introduce Ripple, explain Ripple.Yeah, but Ripple was explained within an episode or 2 of it's introduction.

We're an entire story arc beyond the introduction of Stands and it still hasn't been explained what they are or where they came from.

[Buffalobiian]

Okay, Origins of the Ripple / Stand.

[MFauli]

Just watched the new episode. I´m already enjoying this much more than last season. We´re back to a continuous story, not the "one bad guy per episode" lameness. Feels like the first two seasons <3

But I have to mention it: Bad Company was already shooting when Josuke did his counterattack. Even accepting that his repaired missiles are faster than the bullets of Bad Company, what happened to the bullets already in mid-air? I´d like to say "well, they vanished when their user got k.o.-ed, BUT then the broken missiles also would have disappeared after being used, but they´re clearly somewhat independent from the user.
It´s not all-ruining, but it was silly, like when Sasuke escaped Deidara´s on-going explosion.

[DarthEnderX]

Okay, Origins of the Ripple / Stand.I never really needed an "origin" for Ripple because it just seemed like your basic Chi counterpart to me. When an anime tells me that it's setting has Ki/Chakra/Nen/Reiatsu/Haki, I simply accept it as a given.

Stands however are far more complicated, and rather than something that's simply always seemed to exist, is something that very much appeared suddenly within the world between story arcs.

[MFauli]

btw can someone answer me this spoiler via private message: Are stand here to stay, or will the be replaced by something new, too, at some point, just like stands replaced ripples?

[DarthEnderX]

5 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=807253)





























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Why do I get the feeling that the rest of this arc is going to be a bunch of high school students fighting each other...

[DarthEnderX]

11 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=819499)































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I'm betting Joseph is only pretending to be feeble to lure Chili Pepper into a trap.

[DarthEnderX]

16 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=830526)

























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Why are the animal stand users the most interesting ones?

It's odd that Jotaro kept assuming the rat would behave like a normal rat when it's obvious that Iggy and Petshop(and that baby) had heightened intelligence.


So, is it as obvious to everyone else that the "guy" that rescued Josuke and his mom in the past was some kind of time traveling version of himself?

[neflight86]

Yeah, this was the best 'stand off' we've seen in a while, as far as the fight itself being entertaining.

[DarthEnderX]

22 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=844167)

Brutal.

[Buffalobiian]

I just watched the last 10 episodes or so. Very nice.

Joseph is still rocking it. The writer must have realized that giving the most awesome Jojo dementia is a waste.

[DarthEnderX]

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I'm confused as to why Koichi suddenly needed his Stand to explain it's powers to him. That wasn't the case the first two times.

[MFauli]

nah, he didnt know his abilities earlier, too. He figured it out by trying.

anyway, last 2 episodes have been really good. finally no more monster-of-the week. i wonder if this guy is connected to a greater evil or if he´s just a really strong stand user.

[DarthEnderX]

Also, Jotaro was dumb as hell in this fight.

When the guy was baiting them when he was pulling the jacket, he could have just stopped time, grabbed the tag, and run out with Koichi.

Instead, he didn't use time stop until AFTER the badguy set all his powers in motion.

[MFauli]

Wouldn´t be Jojo if the heroes didn´t NOT do something all the time ;>

[Buffalobiian]

Johari was just being super cautious. He and Joseph are the smartest Jojos thus far. I'd rather follow his lead than Koichi's. Using time freeze too many times let's others learn about it.

It's funny how he calls The World out despite that being Dio's stand name. Technically he should still be yelling "Star Platinum".

[DarthEnderX]

My understanding is that, once he learned to stop time, his changed his Stand name to "Star Platinum: The World"

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 24

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Stop killing hot chicks. That ain't how you write anime :(

Aya really shouldn't have changed his face. Even Koichi would have been smart enough to know that someone doing a face-change wouldn't leave you behind as evidence. It's a dead end either way.

[MFauli]

Why did she change his face, anyway? He obviously forced her, but how? She knew he was a gruesome murderer on the run. Better dying instead of helping him, then dying.

[DarthEnderX]

I gotta say, I feel like the renaming things is getting ridiculous.

It's one thing when he was naming characters after actual people and bands.

But when he's naming attacks and powers after simple song titles, it seems like changing them shouldn't be necessary.

[DarthEnderX]

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Lol, I thought that shadow in the opening was of an old man holding a shovel. But it just turns out it was Kira's tiny dad holding an arrow.

[Buffalobiian]

Jotaros's so nice in his own way. That was totally Okuyasu's dumbass fault.

Koichi too. "Can he really not breathe?"

He's a ghost, genius.

[DarthEnderX]

It wouldn't be Jojo without mind-boggling stupidity on behalf of the heroes to facilitate the antagonists.

[MFauli]

The stupidity of the heroes IS gratingly frustrating, though. Fucking lol. All the excuses Jotaru made about why stopping time wouldn´t help. DAmmit, STOP TIME and grab the photo before it´s up in the sky! Problem solved!

Other than that, Jojo has finally gotten good again. After all those shitty monster-of-the-week episodes, we´re in the middle of an overarching story. Love it.

[DarthEnderX]

26

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Aaaaaand now we're right back to monster-of-the-weeking it...

That kid's Stand is crazy strong. A Stand that can steal other Stands? Too bad he's defeated before he can even take one.

[Buffalobiian]

I was more impressed with Rohan's. His is the OP one. The other guy can only get lucky.

[MFauli]

And I wasnt impressed by this episode. Why couldn´t Rohan read about the boy´s past happeningsß Being shot by an error, having the ability to rob other´s stands, etc.. It should have been there ...

[Buffalobiian]

And I wasnt impressed by this episode. Why couldn´t Rohan read about the boy´s past happeningsß Being shot by an error, having the ability to rob other´s stands, etc.. It should have been there ...

I don't understand that either, it wasn't consistent.

Either he shouldn't know anything about his stand, or he knows and should therefore be written.

You can't half-half this kind of stuff.

[neflight86]

Maybe he realized it (how it works) during the fight (and thats when it would have appeared in his 'face book')?

[Buffalobiian]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to suddenly realise that you can absorb other people's stands, with the conditions being that you only absorb a 3rd at a time, and can only challenge someone five times.

Koichi having his stand explain its own powers makes no sense otherwise.

[DarthEnderX]

I was more impressed with Rohan's. His is the OP one.Yes, but if your power is stealing other people's powers, then your power is potentially as impressive as EVERYONE else's powers.

[Buffalobiian]

Potentially, yes.

Like gambling.

[DarthEnderX]

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Oh Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, you're so bizarre.

[MFauli]

I´m ... not sure about this. :|

Aliens? Feels like opening a can of worms, similarily to HXH´s Dark Continent.

[DarthEnderX]

I´m ... not sure about this. :|

Aliens?It's really NOT any stranger than anything else in the series. It just seems like a weird thing to just drop on us as, like, a one-off in the middle of a story arc.

Seems like the kind of thing that should be it's own arc, with the aliens as the villains.


Feels like opening a can of worms, similarily to HXH´s Dark Continent.Hey shutup! That's awesome.

At least, in concept. I'm not reading it, so I don't know how it's been going.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 28

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/turns on CCTV
"Mum hasn't gotten naked in front of Dad lately"


... this kid...

[MFauli]

That kid was the biggest bullshit of it all, and that´s quite the accomplishment, considering what happened in this episode. It kinda sucks that Kira will be revealed to Jojo-tachi, because his pseudo-daughter turns out to be a super creep.

[Buffalobiian]

pseudo-son*?

[MFauli]

Wat

additional letters so I can post my above "Wat"

[Buffalobiian]

Wat

additional letters so I can post my above "Wat"

What do you mean what? Screenshot this "pseudo-daughter" you speak of so I know who you're talking about. Either I have the wrong person or you have the wrong gender.

[MFauli]

I simply recognized the child at the end as a girl. Never crossed my mind that it´d be a son.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 34

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No little boy. "I'm the only one who knows where the tapes are hidden" isn't a deterrent for killing you. Quite the contrary in fact.

[DarthEnderX]

No little boy. "I'm the only one who knows where the tapes are hidden" isn't a deterrent for killing you. Quite the contrary in fact.Well, he also implied that they were somewhere someone would definitely find them if he disappeared.

[Buffalobiian]

Well, he also implied that they were somewhere someone would definitely find them if he disappeared.

So like his school locker? Maybe that works.

Life must be hard without internet.

[DarthEnderX]

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Okay. So you get stabbed by the arrow a 2nd time, your Stand gains a new power.

That seems....ripe for future plot exploitation.


Brutal power too. Though it shouldn't help him much in a stand up fight. But it's great for covering his tracks.

[Buffalobiian]

Such a weird power. It's not even his 2nd power, but his 3rd. They're also oddly specific.

It doesn't feel like an ass-pull just yet, but it's close.

[MFauli]

So the time travel is the boy´s power or Kira´s power?