Zetsuen no Tempest

[Buffalobiian]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8950/126431.jpg

Alternative title:
Blast of Tempest
Blast of Tempest: The Civilization Blaster
Zetsuen no Tempest: The Civilization Blaster (Japanese)
絶園のテンペスト (Japanese)

Genres: fantasy, mystery

Plot Summary: Mahiro Fuwa, a teenager whose family was mysteriously murdered a year ago, is contacted by Hakase Kusaribe, a young woman who stands against her clan since they left her stranded on a deserted island. As the two decide to help each other, Hakase's quest to oppose her clan brings to light that the Kusaribe clan intends to awaken the "Tree of Zetsuen" whose power can bring chaos upon the entire world. -ANN



HorribleSubs - Episode 01 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=358672)
HS - Episodes 02 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=361300), 03 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=363964), 04 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=366650), 05 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=369355), 06 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=371874), 07 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=374437), 08 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376730), 09 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=378958), 10 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=380981), 11 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=383163), 12 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=385077), 13 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=391632)

[animus]

That shit was so confusing.

[David75]

Nice effects/style/quality.
Not interrested though. Maybe after ep 2... who knows.

[Archangel]

Episode 06:

Well things just got a whole lot more interesting.

[shinta|hikari]

Underrated and under the radar.

Anyone still watching this?

While I am confused how Mahiro can be so smart yet be such a dumbass at the same time, everything else has been fantastic.

[David75]

I'm following this.
Quite a paradox since I find it tiring/boring yet still watch this.
There's nothing really appealing to me... Maybe I'm just there for Hakaze's outfit :D

[NeoCybercoin]

Definitely one of the best shows ive seen.

[Idealistic]

Weird show... but I find it very interesting. I hear it's suppose to be 22 episodes?

[shinta|hikari]

This is extremely underrated. While I am not fond of the characters excluding Hakaze and Aika, I love how the plot is developing.

Samon must be the most transparent final boss ever.

[Archangel]

Fun fact, this has under 500 preorders so far.

JAPAAAAAAAN!~~

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episodes 02 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=361300), 03 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=363964), 04 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=366650), 05 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=369355), 06 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=371874), 07 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=374437), 08 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=376730), 09 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=378958), 10 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=380981), 11 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=383163), 12 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=385077), 13 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=391632)



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Started watching this yesterday. There are parts to like, and parts not to like.

Like:

-flashbacks keep things interesting and keep revealing some interesting aspects about the characters
-Psychological aspects of the characters
-Two boys share the primary cast, makes for something different. Relationship between them is strong without being GAR/sexual.
-Despite above point, sexual tension/eyecandy is maintained thanks to Hakaze and Aika.
-CG-animation used results in some pretty clean visuals. It doesn't exactly blend since it's obvious from watching, but it fits the surreal setting just fine.
-Theory-bashing and deception is always nice.
-ED1 starts off pretty cute. Kirakira~chu~~
-Samon cracks me up (edit: cracks me up even more now that I confirm his voice is Kiritsugu's)

Dislike:

-some animation gets old
-story can feel slow at times
-elements of story come and go without being explained (who else in this world has magic? How did the clan use 2 generations to create a time prison?)
-(self-proclaimed) Deus Ex.
-hard to get excited watching trees fight.


I had always thought the entire time that Yoshino's current girlfriend was an Aika look-alike (could be a different person, or actually her via some strange phenomenon), which prompted his question about the possibility of reviving Aika. He could be just sending text messages to himself though.

I don't think this is a phenomenal show, but do find it interesting. They sure like to quote Hamlet a lot, but my favourite quote out of the series must undoubtedly be:

"Boobs that don't shake aren't boobs at all."

[Ryllharu]

I started watching this over the new years break.

Honestly, the only part I haven't liked was when Yamamoto went full retard by grabbing a spear and tying on a headband pretending she was Zhao Yun against Natsumura. She definitely is the idiot character of the series, but that scene just felt so out of place with what was going on. It felt less like an actual plot in the main story, and more like one of those side chapters in a manga where the main cast usually reenacts a twisted dream sequence version of Alice in Wonderland, Momotarou, or Saiyuki.

I get that melee weapons (even Mahiro's preferred random steel pipe) are better suited for the Kusaribe magic when compared to bullets, but that scene was just too much to swallow. It was simply dumb.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 14 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=394041)



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This show makes me want to buy one of these (http://www.jlist.com/product/SHIRT-GF1).

[Archangel]

I thought this would end after 12 episodes, not sure where the plot will develop from here.

New guy might be a red herring, i always figured if anyone would be the mage of exudus it would be Aika.

[Ryllharu]

i always figured if anyone would be the mage of exudus it would be Aika.What makes you say that, other than because she's dead?

[Archangel]

What makes you say that, other than because she's dead?
Because she's always seemed like Akase's polar opposite, along with her seemingly foreshadowing stories of "The Tempest".

At one point i was sure everyone else was dancing in the palm of her hand.

[David75]

She could still be the one, only lending some powers to the loser...
It so happens he got his powers around the time Aika was "killed" it seems.

She's pretty much still the most important character of the show, although never really appearing. She could even be a hallucination created by one of the 2 trees.

[Archangel]

She could still be the one, only lending some powers to the loser...
It so happens he got his powers around the time Aika was "killed" it seems.

She's pretty much still the most important character of the show, although never really appearing. She could even be a hallucination created by one of the 2 trees.
Indeed, they're all talking how everything seems to be spinning around Yoshino when really Aiko's been the focus all along.

How's this, she's the original mage of Exodus and decided to end her own life after becoming aware of her powers.

[Buffalobiian]

What's weird about the Mage of Exodus theory is how they came about to it.

-Aika dies
-Magicsearch reveals the killer is from the Genesis Clan
-Genesis-Truth says the murderer's not there
-Oh, must be Exodus.

How did they conclude that the killer was from the Genesis Clan in the first place? That's one of the things I was annoyed about before when I mentioned "mechanics go unexplained".

Depending on the mechanism, you'd have to weigh up between whether the spell was initially wrong, or whether the Tree's guilt interpretation was wrong.

I also thought Aika was an Exodus mage for the reasons Ark mentioned.

As for the new guy, I'm sort of 50/50 on him actually having Mage-of-Exodus powers at the moment. Exodus also doesn't seemingly have to sacrifice anything to use his power.

[NeoCybercoin]

Well who says that there is only one mage of Exodus?

[Buffalobiian]

Well who says that there is only one mage of Exodus?

I'm assuming by "Mage of Exodus", they're saying something like "Princess/Prince of Exodus" and not just a random mage of the opposite fraction.

The princess was born to protect the Tree of Genesis, and that's their reasoning for the existence of a Mage of Exodus. The clan's just randomly been around. I'm going to guess that they've never met an Exodus clan in all these generations.

[fireheart]

What's weird about the Mage of Exodus theory is how they came about to it.

-Aika dies
-Magicsearch reveals the killer is from the Genesis Clan
-Genesis-Truth says the murderer's not there
-Oh, must be Exodus.

How did they conclude that the killer was from the Genesis Clan in the first place? That's one of the things I was annoyed about before when I mentioned "mechanics go unexplained".

Depending on the mechanism, you'd have to weigh up between whether the spell was initially wrong, or whether the Tree's guilt interpretation was wrong.

I'm not sure what's so weird about it, it seemed pretty logical to me. And they explained the concept behind all of it so not sure what mechanics where unexplained.

[NeoCybercoin]

I still think Aika is the Princess of Exodus and this guy is just a mage. Exodus defies logic. The dead stay dead. Unless that logic is defied I guess.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm not sure what's so weird about it, it seemed pretty logical to me. And they explained the concept behind all of it so not sure what mechanics where unexplained.

The mechanic that wasn't explained was "How does the magic identify the killer?"

The flow of events is as follows:

-Magic identifies killer is of Genesis Clan
-Clan investigation has nay
-Must be Exodus!!

To give an analogy, the situation's like:

-Investigation says killer is a painter
-Search into the Brotherhood of painters identifies no killers.
-Therefore, it must be a photographer!!

What was the reasoning/mechanism behind the identification/narrowing down of the initial suspect? Why is that reasoning/identification suddenly invalidated now by Lead 2?

[Ryllharu]

As for the new guy, I'm sort of 50/50 on him actually having Mage-of-Exodus powers at the moment. Exodus also doesn't seemingly have to sacrifice anything to use his power.
That's actually the point.

The tree of genesis maintains the logic of the world, the tree of exodus defies the logic of the world.

No sacrifices necessary for the latter.

Hakase explained it earlier on.

[fireheart]

The mechanic that wasn't explained was "How does the magic identify the killer?"

The flow of events is as follows:

-Magic identifies killer is of Genesis Clan
-Clan investigation has nay
-Must be Exodus!!

To give an analogy, the situation's like:

-Investigation says killer is a painter
-Search into the Brotherhood of painters identifies no killers.
-Therefore, it must be a photographer!!

What was the reasoning/mechanism behind the identification/narrowing down of the initial suspect? Why is that reasoning/identification suddenly invalidated now by Lead 2?

Mm if I've understood it correctly, killing another person goes against the worlds logic and is taboo and if someone does this the Tree of Genesis "blacklists" the person in question. The clan upholds the logic of the world so they can find these people but if a person in the clan does kill someone they can undergo a ritual to be forgiven and thus when someone searches for the killer no one will be found as the Tree of Genesis has forgiven the culprit. True they could have wondered if something went wrong with the magic but we're talking about the self proclaimed most powerful magician in the world so they wouldn't just doubt the results. Since they didn't find someone who's conducted the ritual they just created a theory around Exodus since a Mage of Exodus wouldn't get caught in it's web.

[Buffalobiian]

Mm if I've understood it correctly, killing another person goes against the worlds logic and is taboo and if someone does this the Tree of Genesis "blacklists" the person in question. The clan upholds the logic of the world so they can find these people but if a person in the clan does kill someone they can undergo a ritual to be forgiven and thus when someone searches for the killer no one will be found as the Tree of Genesis has forgiven the culprit. True they could have wondered if something went wrong with the magic but we're talking about the self proclaimed most powerful magician in the world so they wouldn't just doubt the results. Since they didn't find someone who's conducted the ritual they just created a theory around Exodus since a Mage of Exodus wouldn't get caught in it's web.

But why conclude that the mage was of the Genesis clan, only to find that they're not OF the clan?

By saying that the Exodus mage is responsible is telling us to completely disregard the fact that their tracking magic said the culprit was of the Genesis clan.

[Ryllharu]

It would follow that both the Mage of Exodus was involved as well as someone being present from the Kusaribe clan. By the rest of the Kusaribes not detecting anything, they could conclude that something was interfering, that is, the Mage of Exodus. That Hakase detected a Kusaribe clan member is that much more significant, because she is magnitudes stronger than the rest of them are. Someone from the Kusaribe was present, but not directly involved.

In fact, this might support Arch's postulation that Aika was the Mage of Exodus before her death by suicide.

Either that, or Hanemura Megumu is lying about both his disposition for violence and destruction and everything else we've seen. I severely doubt he is that phenomenal an actor. He appears to be a genuinely nice guy who realized he had the power around the same time Aika was killed.

[Archangel]

But why conclude that the mage was of the Genesis clan, only to find that they're not OF the clan?

By saying that the Exodus mage is responsible is telling us to completely disregard the fact that their tracking magic said the culprit was of the Genesis clan.
The magic never said the killer was of the Genesis clan, that was simply an incorrect assumption by hakase based on the results of their tracking.

What happened was that the tracking didn't present any results, meaning that the tree of Genesis had "forgiven" the culprit. Hakase then extrapolated that only a mage of her clan could be guilty given these results.

Only after they performed a head count of all mages during the time of the murder ( not sure on this one tbh, but they did rule them all out somehow ) she then theorized that the culprit was someone else, someone detached from the tree of Genesis completely.

[Buffalobiian]

What happened was that the tracking didn't present any results, meaning that the tree of Genesis had "forgiven" the culprit. Hakase then extrapolated that only a mage of her clan could be guilty given these results.

Ah. I'll have to take my words back, it was explained after all.

edit: Reading back, I see fireheart said it too. I missed it somehow.
edit2: (well, he said everything BUT that the tracking came up clean, so I'm not completely at fault :p)


Mm if I've understood it correctly, killing another person goes against the worlds logic and is taboo and if someone does this the Tree of Genesis "blacklists" the person in question. The clan upholds the logic of the world so they can find these people but if a person in the clan does kill someone they can undergo a ritual to be forgiven and thus when someone searches for the killer no one will be found as the Tree of Genesis has forgiven the culprit.

[fireheart]

No it's not telling us to disregard the first suspects, the only thing the magic found was that whoever killed Aika was not "blacklisted" by the Tree of Genesis, this doesn't really mean it has to be someone from the clan but Hakase is from the clan and knows that the members can undergo the ritual. As the conversation with Samon showed the clan normally conducts checks as they usually punishes the clan members if they have killed someone.

That's the important part from what I gathered, that no one got caught in her web. By default that means she'd suspect someone from her clan and not the Mage of Exodus as they have never encountered such a person or even suspected that such a mage could exists. The only reason they came to that conclusion that the Mage of Exodus could exist is because no one was caught in the web and wasn't from the clan as the only other person who could do that is a Mage of Exodus. At least that's how I interpreted it.

Edit: Nevermind should refresh more often, I didn't really catch on that you didn't notice that the trace didn't give any results, ohh well.

[Kraco]

Either that, or Hanemura Megumu is lying about both his disposition for violence and destruction and everything else we've seen. I severely doubt he is that phenomenal an actor. He appears to be a genuinely nice guy who realized he had the power around the same time Aika was killed.

If Genesis is logic and Exodus lack of logic, then trying to deduce whether Hanemura is the prince of Exodus is futile. If he seemed like one, he might not be one, because it would be a logical outcome. It makes sense Genesis would try to control events (sensibly) to further its own agenda, but Exodus would rather cause confusion to drive its needs in a roundabout way, just like Samon and what's-his-name were blathering.

Still, it has been nice to think Aika was the agent of Exodus. She surely was enjoying confusing Mahiro and Yoshino.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 15 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=396741)

[Kraco]

There was hardly anything novel in it, but I liked the scene of Jun making Hakaze realise she has fallen for Yoshino, especially since she had to ultimately admit it and didn't keep denying it like so many characters in anime/manga. Too bad she probably won't be finding out any time soon Yoshino's girlfriend is long dead. Although who knows, but since that is the one big known but unspoken secret in the show, I'd expect it to last still for a while. If Hakaze finds out, Mahiro would find out as well, I guess.

[Buffalobiian]

Do you really think she's really dead Kraco?

I'm not so sure. I thought Yoshino was always contacting her perhaps.

Now that the Mage of Exodus has a cellphone girlfriend of his own, the most immediate theories are:

1) Yoshino's and Mage's girlfriends are Aika for real. She's double-timing to orchestrate something.
2) Yoshino and Mage were actually dating each other via long distance. They're somehow seeing Aika's picture instead of each others'.

[shinta|hikari]

I have no idea what to think of you thinking of number 2.

[NeoCybercoin]

I laughed when Mahiro got called out to be a sis-con.

[Kraco]

Do you really think she's really dead Kraco?

I'm not so sure. I thought Yoshino was always contacting her perhaps.

I thought he's just reading old mails and staring at her pretty picture. Has he got any new mails from his girlfriend ever since Aika, supposedly if you so insist, died?

But yeah, I really think, at the moment, that Aika is dead. With this series being as it is, I have no idea whether that will ever allow Yoshino and Hakaze to become a couple, though, if Aika indeed is dead.

[animus]

For some reason I always thought Hakaze was the same age as Mahiro and Yoshino, considering Jun is a college student and older than Hakaze. Maybe she's only a year or two older than them I guess?

[Buffalobiian]

I thought he's just reading old mails and staring at her pretty picture. Has he got any new mails from his girlfriend ever since Aika, supposedly if you so insist, died?

He hasn't gotten any new mail as far as I can see. I suppose he's only been telling people that he's got a girlfriend, and that he doesn't necessarily believe himself that he's got a girlfriend in the next city. I was thinking under the pretense that Yoshino really did think he had an existing girlfriend through his phone and wasn't mentally delusional.

[Kraco]

He hasn't gotten any new mail as far as I can see. I suppose he's only been telling people that he's got a girlfriend, and that he doesn't necessarily believe himself that he's got a girlfriend in the next city. I was thinking under the pretense that Yoshino really did think he had an existing girlfriend through his phone and wasn't mentally delusional.

Mentally delusional? Mahiro might be a brute but he's by no means stupid. If Yoshino had told him his girlfriend had died around the same time Aika died, it would have given Mahiro all the evidence to think Yoshino in fact was the boyfriend Aika teasingly suggested she might have. He must have suspected that at some point anyway, since those two did spend time together, even if Aika was, kind of, badmouthing Yoshino to Mahiro so much that Mahiro sometimes thought Aika hates Yoshino. I don't know if that's the main reason why Yoshino pretends his girl is still alive, or if it's simply to act like everything's still cool for him, so that Mahiro wouldn't be wondering why Yoshino isn't seeking revenge or isn't otherwise depressed, as Yoshino could have easily lied his girlfriend died randomly during the metallization incidents.

[Buffalobiian]

When the three were still together, did Mahiro know Yoshino had a girlfriend? I don't really a scene where it showed he did.

I only recall Mahiro commenting on Yoshino's girlfriend after he came back as a mage. In fact, I think he even said something like "you have a girlfriend now", to which Yoshino replied in surprise "How'd you know?". If Mahiro never knew Yoshino had a girlfriend, there would have been no reason to pretend he had one (and still does). The fact that Yoshino even went out of his way during his reading task to tell the girls in his class he had a girlfriend suggests to me that it's a personal thing to him, rather than an act he puts on to fool Mahiro.

[Archangel]

2) Yoshino and Mage were actually dating each other via long distance. They're somehow seeing Aika's picture instead of each others'.
LMAO! Make this happen, please.

There's definitely something there though, how they're deceptively not showing his girlfriend. But she has to be real in some manner seeing as his friend when the mage made his first appearance also acknowledged her existence.

I don't like how they're dragging along these tiny plot developments, what i really want to know is what Aika's true role is in all of this. I'll be severely disappointed if she doesn't turn out to be an evil mastermind with some evil purpose and an evil smirk.


When the three were still together, did Mahiro know Yoshino had a girlfriend? I don't really a scene where it showed he did.

He already knew, it's just her identity that he was unaware of.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 16 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=399136)

[Kraco]

For some reason I'm enjoying now Hakaze's change from a mysterious, mighty chief magician into a love-struck girl. Maybe it's because this show has spent so considerable time to try to give Yoshino, Mahiro (and Aika) so deep personalities with all the history, flashbacks, and the other characters talking so much about them. To be honest I still fail to see how Yoshino is nearly as remarkable as they all say, but between maintaining the illusion of a girlfriend and how significant he supposedly is, someone as important as Hakaze behaving like that next to him is nice to watch. Maybe it's all the better that almost everything about Yoshino is speculation that make him more interesting (also as Hakaze's possible partner, should he begin to feel similarly).

Other than that, it's amusing to watch how Samon's faction try to look so hard to prove Yoshino is the Exodus chief magician, clearly making up evidence to support their theories, in lack of anything definitive.

Aika seemingly predicting her own death was an interesting loose detail. Did she predict everything that would happen so accurately a long time ago that she chose to keep reading and quoting the two books with different endings on purpose?

[Buffalobiian]

Hakaze coming out into the open about it is pretty refreshing given how secret crushes drag on in normal anime depictions. Yoshino has the potential to influence those around him when he tries. I can see why Samon would be initially wary of him if he is able to make Hakaze dance for him.

[Archangel]

http://i.imgur.com/kjMocXz.gif

Moegician.

[shinta|hikari]

Hakaze!!!!

3 exclamation points were not enough.

Yoshino is absurd because he is a living contradiction. He is sympathetic, yet detached, powerless, yet influential. He does not make sense, making him the best candidate for the mage of Exodus, or at least the heart of Exodus, as this episode implies. He may not have the power(?), but he has the inclination to change the world, and has in fact done so once already despite being powerless.

[Kraco]

He needs to have some special power or ability to be anything, though, even if it was to grant powers to others, or whatever. Otherwise he's just a man with a fancy title, and it's still all up to his own mundane skills. I don't think simply being the love interest of the Princess of Genesis is enough to make one the Prince of Exodus. That makes no sense. She could have fallen in love with anybody, given a chance. Especially since we have already seen Exodus can grant every bit as impressive powers as Genesis. Unless one surmises the Tree of Exodus created the goofball what's-his-name mage of Exodus as a distraction while its real intention is to mess with the Genesis subtly.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 17 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=401646)



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Aaaand, it's out! I wouldn't have minded that they kept it secret a little longer had Samon not exhausted his hilarious list of guesses.

[Kraco]

I couldn't stop loving Hakaze's internal but very much externally visible attempts to stop liking Yoshino and the unavoidable daydreaming that always followed. She has certainly been a much funnier character after getting back from the island. But as much as I liked those scenes, I still don't mind the secret getting revealed already. It's better to stop when you are at the top, not when the audience is already getting tired of it.

The exact same could be said about the other folks trying to deduce the indentity of Yoshino's girl. It was funny, but the half-mage did stop it suitably, because every minutes was stretching the unlikelihood of nobody voicing the most obvious suspect. I suppose it's somewhat understandable Mahiro didn't allow himself to realize it. Yoshino was apparently his only friend, and that would have ended had he known it from the beginning. I wonder if they still intend to suspect Yoshino, though. Mahiro might be angry enough to, but how much sense would it make?

[Buffalobiian]

The girlfriend thing didn't have anything to do with suspecting Yoshino. They just wanted somebody they can use to get a leverage on him. The fact that Aika is his girlfriend doesn't drop his chances of being the killer either (at least as far as Samon and Tetsuma are willing to believe).

[Kraco]

Perhaps, perhaps not. But the reason why they started to look for the girlfriend fused now with Mahiro's goal of finding Aika's killer (and also Aika's possible boyfriend, which Yoshino used against him earlier). I guess it doesn't mean one thing or another in the bigger picture as far as Samon is concerned, but now it all depends on how Mahiro, once he cools down his head, judges Yoshino. Aika is dead so jealousy is kind of useless, which means all that's left for Mahiro is to try to weigh how well he thinks he knows Yoshino against all the other emotions (since all the facts are missing). They were friends, after a fashion, so will he consider Yoshino capable and willing to have killed Aika?

No doubt Mahiro will go and ask Yoshino directly. I think he's that kind of a guy, not one lurking in the shadows trying to find out everything indirectly.

Another interesting thing would be to see how Hakaze would react to all this. I doubt she would be all too quick to suspect Yoshino of anything vile.

[Archangel]

I wonder if there's anything to Samon's crazy theory and if it's connected with all of them dismissing the most obvious answer when searching for possible girlfriends. It's like the trees themselves were impeding their thought processes of even acknowledging Aika as a possibility.

[Kraco]

I wonder if there's anything to Samon's crazy theory and if it's connected with all of them dismissing the most obvious answer when searching for possible girlfriends. It's like the trees themselves were impeding their thought processes of even acknowledging Aika as a possibility.

Dunno. Maybe they were just afraid of Mahiro and thus didn't say it, since they all know he's an abnormal siscon. That's the feeling I got.

[Archangel]

Dunno. Maybe they were just afraid of Mahiro and thus didn't say it, since they all know he's an abnormal siscon. That's the feeling I got.
That's definitely not it, they seemed genuinely surprised with the suggestion and maybe surprised on how neither of them had thought of it first.

[Ryllharu]

I am getting really tired of their explanations that Yoshino must be the Mage of Exodus, though now he's just "the mind" of the Mage of Exodus.

What it basically boils down to is, "an ordinary guy can frequently outsmart us...he must be the mage of exodus, it is the only explanation, it is definitely not that we are all dumbasses!" But the Kusaribe are all dumbasses, except Natsumura and Megumu. They're frequently easily tricked by either Yoshino or Mahiro (who isn't that clever himself). Hakaze is a proven moron, Samon is even dumber (revealing his entire plan to Yoshino and Mahiro's clever wordplay, something they are used to from Aika), and Tetsuma isn't too bad though he has a bad case of tunnel vision when it comes to a given task.

They need to give it up. Sure, Hanemura is weak willed, but look at the opposite. Hakaze is the princess of Genesis, and she's incredibly violent and doesn't preserve much. She blew away half of a mountain, just to prove a point. If their logic is correct (which I bet it isn't), Hakaze should be obsessed with maintaining a balance, not acting so impulsively.

[Buffalobiian]

Hakaze is a proven moron

Do elaborate. :mad:

[Ryllharu]

Do you seriously not remember all the times that Yoshino and Mahiro were able to shock/surprise her over the doll? Hakaze is so powerful, that common sense, or even a general wariness frequently eludes her. Or maybe the fact that she never quite figured out that she was locked two years in the past, but Yoshino figured it out easily? Now that she's back, she displayed classic lovestruck moron behavior, enough that her subordinates are actually concerned.

And lest we forget: She did get stuffed into a barrel by one of the biggest idiots around, Samon. That's kind of a big one.

It's not as easy to see when you compare her with the even bigger morons around like Samon and Yamamoto, but Hakaze isn't that clever.

[Buffalobiian]

Do you seriously not remember all the times that Yoshino and Mahiro were able to shock/surprise her over the doll?

I do, and I don't consider the surprises to be Hakaze's fault. Yoshino and Mahiro are above average.

I can't call being lovestruck a sign of being a moron simply because it can happen to everyone regardless of how smart they are. It's almost a necessary component of extreme love.

As for the barrel.. we don't know how that happened. Flashbacks have shown Samon to ambush her once already and she was smart enough to have an offering in her mouth to get her out of the situation. I suppose that you could always wear some kind of ring around you, but when an entire village is opposing you (some of which have been planning it for two generations), it's almost inevitable that they'd trip you up sometime down the track.

She's not that clever, but I can't agree with the term "moron".

[Kraco]

Now that she's back, she displayed classic lovestruck moron behavior, enough that her subordinates are actually concerned.

Don't call her a lovestruck moron. She's so cute being so much in love, but it's not like she hadn't been thinking of the consequences, even if she couldn't help herself. She actually, eventually, admitted her condition and then stepped forward to reveal it to Yoshino with all the facts. Such actions speak highly against being a total classic lovestruck moron in anime style.

[Kraco]

Episode 18 720p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=404110) | 1080p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=404112) - HS





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Not that I'd have turned to believe in Ryll's diagnosis at any point, but I was still pleased Hakaze's plan wasn't entirely coloured by her deepening love and thus wasn't as straightforward as it could have been. No doubt her feelings for Yoshino were the basis for what she's doing now, but then again, she had to do something, and it looked like she wasn't at all sure what to do ever after having been brought back from the island. Now she's doing something again (fawning over Yoshino doesn't count). Looks like Yoshino also decided to do something and face Mahiro. I can't see that ending up all too well, after seeing Yoshino's lunatic eyes when Hakaze was pressing him. It was pretty weird seeing him like that, considering he has been a veritable icicle up until now, at least compared to everybody else.

Aliens... That came out of nowhere.

[Archangel]

And suddenly the tree was aliens

Best. Show. Ever.

[Buffalobiian]

I can't tell you if I would ultimately like Hakaze or Aika better, but I will have to agree with Hakaze that she would be the cuddlier of the two.

The other thing I've liked for a while now too is the costume design (for the main cast anyway).

[animus]

Man the ending of this episode was giving me the creeps that Hakaze was gonna die (and I wouldn't want that).

[Kraco]

Man the ending of this episode was giving me the creeps that Hakaze was gonna die (and I wouldn't want that).

I was also getting that feeling when the fight with the Exodus mage was getting longer and longer. We even got that farewell flashback scene with Yoshino. Fortunately it didn't turn out that way. I'd much rather see Yoshino get together with Hakaze than be stuck with Aika's memory forever. As a character Aika has been built remarkably through the numerous flashbacks and she's interesting, so that's not the problem, but she's still dead, while Hakaze is very much alive. Unless Aika is the original Exodus mage and was somehow able to perfectly fake her own death, but I wouldn't be sure I'd like such a plot element.

[Yukimura]

Wow, Hakaze went from lovestruck airhead stalker to Stage 5 creepy obsessed manipulative stalker in one episode. The only outcome of her pressing Yoshino to the point of breaking down like that seems to have been that she got to hold him and comfort him while he cried like a whiny bitch even while pointing out how utterly pointless his crying was to himself. As far as I can see the only one who actually benefited from his breakdown is Hakaze (and 'Hakashino' fans.


I choose to believe that Hakaze needed/wanted to see Yoshino get all emotional a) to make herself feel better about being all emotional around him, b) to have a demonstration that he's over his old girlfriend and thus eligible from an external point of view, c) to provide an opportunity to express her love towards him through offering him a shoulder to cry on, and d) to start him moving towards a point internally where he is actively and acutely feeling an emptiness that could be filled by entering into another relationship, perhaps with someone he's grown close to recently and who is more than willing. All this only served the purposes of giving Hakaze the go ahead to kick her campaign for Yoshino's heart into high gear with the certainty that Yoshino is or will soon be fertile soil for her affections.

Her behavior, while understandable given her obsession, reeked of emotional manipulation to me mainly because the first person you open up to about your grief over a lost loved one should NOT be to a person who is obsessed with you and wants to be your waifu come hell or high water. Such a person is more than likely too caught up in their own desire to be with you to properly manage and respond to your emotional well being in the face of the feelings you're finally starting to come to terms with.

Now all that said I am willing to give a slim benefit of doubt to Hakaze that maybe she realizes that by opening up Yoshino like that she's probably turned him into a raw, pulsating, mound of manpain that should under no circumstances be entering into any new relationships for a while. If the next few eps demonstrate she's content to give him space to work his shit out before renewing her labbu labbu assault I'll give her some props.

I imagine the Hakaze lovers in the audience will vehemently disagree with me and claim that Yoshino needed to have a breakdown in order to move on and that Hakaze is a totes superbestfriend and prime waifu material for pushing him to express his feelings when no one else would (or could since he hadn't trusted anyone else with the knowledge that his girlfriend was dead) and that all is well and good because Hakaze is so nice, and cuddly and wonderful and Yoshino is lucky to have her fawning over him and there's no way she'd take advantage of his potentially fragile emotional state to press her love agenda too soon but they belong together, etc. To all of you I say, you may well be right, and probably are given how rarely romance in anime actually takes a cynical route, but I'm calling it like I see it because someone should speak out against this happy-go-lucky, destined-pair-is-destined, cute-plucky-girl-always-gets -the-man-she-wants version of romance and it probably has to be me.

TL;DR I don't support the Hakaze x Yoshino ship and I would prefer it most the romance subplot between them were killed off by Yoshino deciding that Aika was his one true love and that he must be forever alone from now on.

+9000 points if Yoshino chooses to forsake Hakaze and die at the end to 'reunite' with Aika Romeo x Juliet style.
+9001 points if Hakaze and Mahiro end up together somehow for the lulz.
+Infinity points if Hakaze x Mahiro happens AND Aika somehow manages to not be dead and Aika x Yoshino is revived.

[Kraco]

I won't actually disagree with your facts, but I'll have to point out that it wasn't so humanly strange for Hakaze to press Yoshino like that, especially considering Hakaze is the princess of the clan and up until Samon's betrayal I reckon she was quite a pope among her people, at least superficially. Thus I have no doubt whatsoever she did what she did with the best of intentions, even if the deed was very brutal and painful. She couldn't understand how Yoshino could have forced himself to stay so calm and composed for so long and wanted him to be able to grieve like she, or most, would have. While I don't agree with Ryll on her being a total moron, I do admit she's not the brightest person around, so her clumsiness in addition to her upbringing in the high position resulted in her behavior, which only reflected her own beliefs and didn't much consider Yoshino's feelings or needs. But that's something that happens all around us every day in RL; people who think they know what's best for you form a grand portion of mankind.

With Hakaze knowing Aika is long dead, I don't see anything in particular wrong about wanting to win Yoshino's affections either. She's genuinely in love with him, so in my opinion she's completely free to try to gain Aika's former place for herself. It's not like Yoshino didn't like her company or would have particularly tried to stop her actions at any point. Although with such a crazed expression on his face, I half expected him to strangle Hakaze...

Looking at Yoshino during the last parts of the episode, he didn't look any worse for wear, either. Moreover, it looks like he finally intends to sort things out with Mahiro. So, judging by the results, Hakaze's actions, although highly self-righteous, might have turned out perfectly okay.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm pretty much with Kraco. Hakaze thought that Yoshino should grieve.

[shinta|hikari]

Hakaze allowed Yoshino to cry when he should. She should be given a medal for managing that.

[Kraco]

Hakaze allowed Yoshino to cry when he should. She should be given a medal for managing that.

Actually she didn't allow him to cry, she made him cry. It was only the end result that decreed whether that was a fair or foul act. It isn't quite a normal situation of a close one dying for Yoshino. They are still in the middle of a global crisis and there's also Mahiro's attitude to be concerned about. So far, no matter how you look at it, Yoshino was doing the right thing by suppressing everything. Only that allowed him to work not only with Mahiro but also with the government agents and finally fool Samon and save Hakaze. If he had been a crying wreck, none of that would have happened and he would be a chunk of iron now and Samon would have likely succeeded. Hakaze decided based solely on her own values, needs, and opinions that Yoshino should right now grieve like a normal person - no matter the outcome. But then again, she doesn't suspect Yoshino is the Mage of Exodus, so maybe she thinks his long battle is over already.

[Yukimura]

Kraco seems to get where I'm coming from, even if we don't agree on the merits or best outcomes. Hakaze pushed Yoshino to have that emotional reaction purely because it serves her purposes to have him express himself like that. It was necessary if he's going to let go of Aika and open himself up for a new relationship, but if Hakaze wasn't already gunning for that slot she wouldn't have bothered to press him into the position she did. One can look at the mess Mahiro is as contrast and notice that Hakaze hasn't said a word to him about how he should deal with his grief in some 'healthier' way than mindlessly seeking revenge.

Where I find fault with/condemnation for Hakaze is that she did not do what she did because she felt that as his friend she should try to help Yoshino face and express his grief to become a more whole and stable person, she did it because she wants to be his girlfriend and his hangups about Aika only serve as an obstacle to that objective so she wanted to smash them and then be nearby to pick up the pieces. This seems like textbook emotional manipulation and that is not the way I would like to see a relationship entered into. I don't think post breakdown Yoshino is in any position to make an informed choice about whether he should give a relationship with Hakaze a go.

But to give Hakaze credit and/or even more manipulator points it looks like she's going to give him space for a while without giving up on him completely, probably in the hopes that once he's come to terms with Aika's death he'll be receptive to a new relationship and she can swoop in on a white horse and sweep him off his feet. I would be okay with her if she does go that route, though I still hold out hope for a zombie Aika x Yoshino reunion of epic kuudereness.

[Buffalobiian]

One can look at the mess Mahiro is as contrast and notice that Hakaze hasn't said a word to him about how he should deal with his grief in some 'healthier' way than mindlessly seeking revenge.

I disagree about the comparison.

Mahiro is taking revenge precisely because he loves Aika and is expressing his anger/grief in such a manner.
Yoshino swept it all under the carpet despite arguably loving her even more.

Hakaze is one who doesn't really hide her emotions, and she doesn't think it's good for Yoshino to do the same. Perhaps the explanation is even simpler: she just thinks that Yoshino wants to cry but is holding himself back.

I would agree that she wouldn't have pushed the issue as much had the person not been Yoshino, simply because she cares for him overall. I disagree that there seemed to be any malicious intent.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 19 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=406361)

[Kraco]

Episode 19 720p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=406361) | 1080p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=406362) - HS




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That certainly went with less fists talking and more mouths talking than I expected. I guess I underestimated Mahiro's personality and maturity. But then again, I guess it was also Aika's effect on Mahiro that he could take it like a man. Those two really are bound to a ghost. It makes me a little sad to see Hakaze all lovey dovey when Yoshino still only loves a long dead person. And even sadder when Hakaze admits she knows fully well that's how it might continue for all eternity. Yoshino is quite a hard personality to judge, that much is absolutely true, so he could swing either way towards the end of the show. Or maybe Hakaze will die and he will be twice widowed... That would also suit his character.

As obvious as it was as a solution, for some reason I didn't think Hakaze would travel to the past to figure out Aika's murderer. That's kind of... a more direct than usual method for this show. But then again, it's Hakaze. She's the most straightforward person of them all in this story.

[Buffalobiian]

Answer: Aika is an alien!

[Archangel]

There's obviously something to the alien theory since it was referred to as "The Civilization Blaster".

Anyone know where the hell the plot is going from here? Because i sure don't, and i love it.

[David75]

Aika is the Key to wiping the human race from the face of the earth and she asks Hakaze to kill her before she returns to her timeline to prevent the massive genocide... and she also asks her to love Yoshino for her :D

[NeoCybercoin]

I.....I wouldn't be surprised if that actually did happen. Aika has been pretty much a mystery throughout the show with her Hamlet and Tempest quotes.

[Buffalobiian]

David's theory sounds pretty nice.

Aika being some "outsider" would help explain why she's so fascinated with classical literature like that.

[Kraco]

Yeah, that does seem like a pretty solid theory. If we are the believe the hypothesis of the original purpose and origin of the trees. However, why would the key want to terminate itself rather than serve its purpose? That's the weakness of the theory.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, that does seem like a pretty solid theory. If we are the believe the hypothesis of the original purpose and origin of the trees. However, why would the key want to terminate itself rather than serve its purpose? That's the weakness of the theory.

Because she loves Yoshino.

[Kraco]

Because she loves Yoshino.

That doesn't answer anything... Why would the key love anybody if its purpose is to launch the elimination of mankind? The only explanation I can see is that the original theory is slightly incorrect: The purpose is not to destroy civilization automatically once it has reached a certain point of development, but to destroy it at that point if it's not likable enough. That is, if it was a nazi communist fundamentalist civilization that couldn't have offered the key anybody to fall in love with. So, the aliens would want to have a friendly friend around but not a threat.

[Buffalobiian]

Because love transcends all else.

Aika would die in order to make the ending a happy one instead of a sad one.

[Kraco]

Episode 20 - HS (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=408696)





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Hmm... Well, I doubt I'm the only person who felt a little bit of disappointment because the most obvious case turned out to be true. But then again, that's a purely subjective assessment and the obvious twists can't be avoided all the time. On the bright side, she's surely worthy and it fits and explains Aika's personality perfectly. Now it remains to be seen if Hakaze actually manages to talk Aika into killing herself...

[Archangel]

#calledit
#yolo
#swag

[David75]

Aika kills herself and we get to experiment everything we've seen so far.

I was thinking that like Hakaze, Aika has got her bones in the present... Except in Japan bodies are burnt, and ashes probably won"t be enough.

Somehow, I feel exodus mages clearly overpower Genesis mages.
The noob was already quite powerful for a noob and didn't need offerings.
Aika, with a simple skewer gets a debilitatingly humongous sword....
Also, she's quite a cunning little girl, to hide so much power for so long, such that never in the world did Mahiro and Yoshino think she could be the ME. And no one else ever thought about that obvious possibility.
It's quite possible she altered events enough (or brainwashed everyone around) that she isn't even dead.
She probably is the noob's ex-GF and transfered some powers to cover her story.

Well we'll see.

[Kraco]

Episode 21 - HS (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=411131)







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Damn, Aika was so ready to kill herself for a noble case. Too much Shakespeare does that to you, folks. It was quite funny and very fitting Hakaze did her everything, as insufficient as it was, to stop Aika. Naturally she wouldn't be nearly as lovable if she had calculated that Aika needs to disappear for Yoshino to be free to chase other girls... Their little think tank was in fact coincidentally quite correct when they tried to explain how Yoshino could be the Mage of Exodus despite not showing any powers: Aika didn't really need to use her awesome powers for anything at all (not counting this nonsense fight) to give a very critical nudge for the world to head to the right direction.

I bet Hakaze gained several years worth of maturity out of this time trip.

[Archangel]

How's this, she's the original mage of Exodus and decided to end her own life after becoming aware of her powers.
Not bad past Archie, you've done well. Around 80% correct?

Though I never anticipated Aika's role to be of such a complete and utter game master. Forget the characters, the whole play is orchestrated by her hand.

And her attitude towards death didn't come out as abnormal either, not for me when considering her perspective at least. From the start she always felt like a sort of omnipresence either alive or dead around... well, everything. Being the mage of Exodus she was beyond humanity and our concepts of life and death, it doesn't feel strange because we as the audience don't feel qualified to judge her anymore.

So many twists and turns... anyone care to guess how they'll deal with the tree from now on? Kamehameha exodus blast from the new guy seems like a crude way to end such a well crafted story.

[Kraco]

I was just thinking that wouldn't this make Hakaze fall even more in love with Yoshino? She was so impressed by Aika, for a very good reason, and so shocked and saddened by her fate she couldn't prevent, or rather she caused it in a matter of speaking, that when combined with Aika's story of how Mahiro and Yoshino were the only people treating Aika like a normal girl, her image of Yoshino must have been upgraded once again. I wouldn't be surprised if Hakaze in fact now thought she has to sacrifice herself as well, should the situation offer any chances for that. I doubt the story would allow that, though, since this isn't supposed to end like a tragedy. Although if she's not hypocritical, she would recognize she can't do herself what she tried to deny from others.

Aika's death is kind of interesting story wise in the sense that it had already happened when the series began, so it's a part of the setting, which I reckon is partly why Archie says judging her isn't relevant anymore.

[Buffalobiian]

I don't get why the Mage of Exodus ends up using power from the Tree of Genesis. If the Tree of Exodus could already infiltrate the Tree of Genesis to such an extent that it can tap into its powers, then destroying it should be easily done.

[Yukimura]

Aika managed to exceed even my expectations of awesomeness and superiority. I'm inclined to agree with Arch, Aika is beyond a character and is more like a force of nature/law of the setting. It's probably positivity goggles at this point but I feel like her larger than life status helps make her uberpower and coolness easier to swallow. Since she's been bound up in the causality of the story as dead from the get go no matter how amazingly cool and powerful she was revealed to be she couldn't easily be used as a deus ex machina for the resolution of the ultimate conflict because in the end she had to die for the series to take place at all.

While the Aika fanboy in me hopes that somehow she can come back at the end anyway, I can admit that this would be less good storywise than having her stay dead. I won't stop rooting against the Yoshino x Hakaze ship with the same passion and zeal, however. With luck maybe Hakaze will take something away from her encounter with Aika and grow some though. She'll still be light years behind Aika in every way and couldn't catchup in a million lifetimes but if she does grow up a bit it would be attributable to Aika thus increasing her legend that much further.

Hakaze's biggest problem to me has been her overwhelmingly stubborn selfishness and assuredness that she can actually control the logic of the world. Seeing Aika smack her around and demonstrate how much more powerful she was only to turn around and behave in a selfless manner in the service to something greater than her own desires could serve as a good lesson for her. In fact, perhaps Hakaze's mentality is part of the Tree's test of civilization. I would find it rather fitting if somehow part of the way to defeat the Tree of Genesis ended up being Hakaze having to let go of her delusions of control over the logic of the world. T

All that aside after this episode's awesomeness I feel like whatever happens next will just be typical action-fantasy climactic battle boilerplate fluff. Aika and her mysteries were the most interesting thing about this series and other than the reading of her letters we probably aren't going to be getting much more about her.

[Buffalobiian]

I had always thought Aika with her blood drawn into some weird pattern, but this episode showed that it was actually just a pool of blood.

I'm sure it was probably brought up before when we explored her death, but the "beautify" version is used exclusively so many times that I had no reason to believe otherwise.

[Edort4]

I think that this is maybe the first show in wich I wish that every main character that is alive dies painfully and the ones dead revive. I cant stand the yoshino-hakaze bs I hate both of them but when they are together is just abomination. I hope a meteor kills them both. Mahiro and his fking complex, I truly believe he is going to end becoming homosexual, he had that mega weapon and didnt even use it to say a big nice "flame you" to the world by killing wichever tree. This is the example of a writer that reads some shakespeare comes up with a decent plot twist and then throws in all the anime garbage cliches to ruin it all.

Sad thing is that overall quality of anime is so low nowadays that this crap looks like some good series. In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. I doubt this last episodes will bring the changes i recon to be the only posible way of saving this show. Mahiro kills Hakaze and Yoshino cause he is in love with Yoshino after loving his own sister, thus losing all 2 times in a row and ends up suiciding or getting married with the new mage of exodus pussy-slave. Then Aika destroys the world and lets a new society to build up.

[Xelbair]

I finally caught up with this show - marathoned it from ep 10 to ep 21.
Aika killing herself to set off this chain of events - predicted.
Aika being true Mage of Exodus - predicted.
Peacefull resolution of Mahiro's and Yoshino's relationship with Aika - total surprise.

I really liked Hakaze's character, at least until later developments - she's too selfish, self centered and wants just to be happy - without regard to anything else(and so far it is just a coincidence that Her Happiness = Yoshino's Happiness )... total opposite of Aika. Heck - instead of writing this i could quote Yuki and just say " ^ THIS ^".

[Kraco]

I really liked Hakaze's character, at least until later developments - she's too selfish, self centered and wants just to be happy - without regard to anything else(and so far it is just a coincidence that Her Happiness = Yoshino's Happiness )... total opposite of Aika. Heck - instead of writing this i could quote Yuki and just say " ^ THIS ^".

Aika was selfish as well. She was in the exact same position as Hakaze, although she knew even more yet didn't have a clan serving (or betraying) her. Instead she has a loyal brother and a boyfriend. In fact as far as I can see, Aika was willingly selfish and Hakaze is foolishly selfish. That's their personality difference. It's would be beyond hasty and superficial to think Aika wasn't selfish simply because she killed herself. Like somebody once said: dying is easy, living is hard.

I felt this episode was a bit unsuccessful direction or writing wise. Samon and Evangeline praising Yoshino, in addition to Mahiro, was kind of strange considering Yoshino didn't do anything in this episode aside from almost dying for nothing. Since we didn't see Mahiro lay out the plan, it's impossible to say if Yoshino was significantly adding to it, so in the end we saw him do zilch. Even in the bigger picture he's been quite passive compared to how everybody kept saying he's the real wicked mastermind and how they even pictured him as the mage of Exodus. I wish he would occasionally do something to justify all that. So far the scene of fooling Samon and bringing back Hakaze is the single moment of brilliance he has displayed - and even that was somewhat dull considering Samon is not exactly a genius.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 22 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=413312)


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@Kraco: I don't think it was out of place. In the most simplest form, Mahiro sets the direction and Yoshino does all the error-correction and gets things through. Mahiro alone won't come up with the best plan to do things, and Yoshino alone won't really care enough to do anything anyway.

AKA: Mahiro sets the flow, Yoshino does with it and makes sure it's smooth.

Evangeline's had some conversations with Yoshino before during their navigation and negotiations when people were still turning into iron statues, so she's seen his insight there. Samon knows first hand about Yoshino's manipulative prowess and ability to think on the spot to get what he wants. I'd say that after all this time they've met with the duo, they've got a fairly good idea about what they're capable of and how they bounce off each other.

That's probably my favourite thing about this series - the non-BL relationship between the two being primary, while the romance is secondary but present.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 23 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=415501)

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 24 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=417713)

[Archangel]

Lol, the blade if infinite deaths was pretty cliché for an otherwise original and engaging storyline, but i don't really care. Solid show, good ending.

[Buffalobiian]

Lol, the blade if infinite deaths was pretty cliché for an otherwise original and engaging storyline, but i don't really care. Solid show, good ending.

Mahiro was so lying about picking up a chick. He was a siscon level was over 9000.

My favourite thing about this show (as I've said before) is the way we explored the relationship between Mahiro/Yoshino as well as their relationship with Aika. The whole thing started with them, and ended with them. That's what I like to see.

[Archangel]

I think the chick actually shows up in the manga though, i remember seeing her in the raws.

I honestly liked everything about the show, from the characters to the setting. I'd rate it a perfect 10 if the ending after all the reveals had been just one tiny less predictable.

[Kraco]

Yeah, a solid show that I enjoyed from the beginning till the end. At some point it was far harder to predict, so in that sense the ending was a bit disappointing considering the lack of originality, but as a traditional ending this wasn't bad. It's even better remembering this was the kind of ending Aika had in mind. If we think everything went according to Aika's plan, then this ending was just as solid as everything else.

Fortunately I never disliked Hakaze, so this left a good taste in my mind. Although... Just like the two cadavers of the Kusaribe village said, Yoshino is getting a girlfriend every bit as troublesome as Aika in Hakaze, just in different ways. But I guess that's fine, with adaptability apparently his greatest strength.

[Yukimura]

There was a rough spot for me near the middle where I thought this show wouldn't be worth keeping and might not even be worth continuing but it managed to pull through quite well and I'm glad I stuck with it. The typical anime ending was typical but overall I liked the show for everything else so I can deal. I was booing audibly when Yoshino ran to Hakaze like she was a glass of water after a few days in the desert but that's just how it goes. After such an awesome girlfriend as Aika it shouldn't surprise that when Yoshino finally managed to get on the rebound he ended up with a disaster.

I was holding out some small hope that when the Tree of Exodus showed up we'd get some hint of Aika as a final tribute to the fact that she is ultimately responsible for saving the word, but alas. Still, the video message, rather than a hand written letter, was nice touch as it gave Aika one last chance to be the Aika we know and love and troll Yoshino and Mahiro from the grave.

[Archangel]

I was gonna say, Aika is the best troll character of all times. Only her could have those two stoic douches making that face.

I never expected her to come back though, she announced she would die and as with everything else it was so. The game master was never wrong, her own life was just another puppet in the play she was directing. So yeah, Hakaze end is ideal here.

[Ryllharu]

Terrible, terrible show. No direction or focus, cliché characters ( I don't care if that was the point ) with dull visuals and audio all together for one hell of a deuce.

The premise was interesting, as were some of the details involving the magic, but the execution was lacking.

[shinta|hikari]

I always liked Hakaze, so this ending is great for me. I was afraid they were just gonna skip that conclusion completely.

Aika is just awesome. She fits the art of the show well too. Her plan may be selfish and stupid, but I guess it all worked out in the end.

Yoshino provoking Mahiro is always funny. He always comes out of nowhere.

If there is anything I didn't like about this show, it's the mage of Exodus nerd. Everything he was is like a convenient plot device.

[Munsu]

Just finished the series, and honestly don't know what I feel about it.

On one side it had some very refreshing aspects to it, on the other side it turned into a bit of a joke in the 2nd half and they greatly diminished the role of the main characters which was disappointing.

Overall quite pleased how events unfolded and what not, but I expected more out of it after the quite interesting and mysterious beginnings the show had.

[MasterOfMoogles]

I think the problem with this show is the 2nd cour just didn't have anything to beat the barrel debate, so it felt somewhat lackluster compared to the first cour.
The debate about the MC's girlfriend was pretty good, too, but just not as good as the barrel.

[shinta|hikari]

You're right.

And it needed much. much more Aika.