Boku wa Tomodachi Sukunai

[Yukimura]

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Summary:
Hasegawa Kodaka, a half-Japanese/half-British boy, has recently transferred to a Catholic High School, St. Chronica's Academy, and as always, finds it impossible to make friends there due to his naturally blond hair, inherited from his dead English mother, which makes him look like a dangerous delinquent to his prejudiced peers. One day after school, he enters the classroom witnessing the equally solitary and very abrasive girl Mikazuki Yozora while she speaks to her Imaginary Friend Tomo. They decide that the best way to improve their social situation is to form a club - the Rinjinbu (Neighbour's Club) - just to make friends and learn social skills.

Five other members soon join, starting with the school's well-connected and arrogant idol Kashiwazaki Sena, who has many male admirers but no female friends due to jealousy. Kusunoki Yukimura, a girl pretending to be a boy, who idealises and follows Kodaka in the hope that it will teach her to become manlier. Kobato, Kodaka's younger sister who is attending St. Chronica's middle school division and has a penchant for darkness, vampires and the macabre ever since she started watching an anime called Full Metal Necromancer. Shiguma Rika, a perverted underclassman and well-known scientific genius, who speaks in the third person and was saved by Kodaka during a failed experiment, thereafter trying to repay him with sex. And finally Takayama Maria, a precocious 10-year-old teacher and nun at the academy, who becomes the club adviser.

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This show seems remarkably average so far, but NOT in an especially bad sort of way. Nothing stood out as especially good or fresh or engaging, but despite everything being a rehash of common high school outcast group tropes nothing stood out as especially annoying or bothersome either. It was like high school anime white noise and thus quite watchable.

[vejita613]

It seems as though the exaggerated tone that I loved in the manga wasn't really shown here, so I'm a bit disappointed about that. But, overall I was satisfied with this episode. As much as I like Yozora, her character doesn't really shine until her rivalry with Sena builds up (which only just started with this episode). I look forward to the next episode since it looks like they will be playing the monster hunter-ish game, so hopefully they wont mess up one of my favorite moments between the two.

[Kraco]

I looked forward to this show despite knowing nothing about it. I had merely seen some fanart and read it mentioned a number of times, creating tiny hype. So, with such ambiguously positive predisposition I found this interesting enough, at least for now. I suppose I like exaggerated and strange characters in general, although it's not like the ones in this show would have been overly much sharpened. I somewhat hope the dude would actually possess some delinquent traits because right now he seems like the textbook case of a gray central main character whose only job is to reflect the other characters and make them look even more weird.

[Ryllharu]

As far as first episodes go, I liked it. Certainly worth a few more episodes to get some more of the cast.

I was a fan of Denpa Onna's character design, and considering the original artist is the same person, I liked these as well. With Shaft not doing the animation (AIC Build is doing this series), the features aren't quite as exaggerated. Still has the delicious crescent-moon smiles though. AIC Build also worked on OreImo, so I'm hoping that the animation quality stays nice and crisp.

As far as VAs, I'm liking this too. Inoue Marina (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=11) is using her deeper feminine voice for Yozora, which I've usually been fond of. It gives her an authoritative feel, a little gruff around the edges, which as far as first impressions go, fits Yozora pretty well. Sena's VA, Itou Kanae (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1443) didn't really impress me. She sounds like most of her other generic roles. Maybe she'll get a little better later on. The male lead, played by Kimura Ryouhei (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=2225), sounds generic and bland. Like Kraco said, hopefully he'll develop some interesting quirks, other than the "just misunderstood" shtick.

This episode was little more than a setup episode and brief intro to Yozora/Sena. There is really little else to say about the content of this episode.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

Sena's desperation to get friends caused her to develop some interesting quirks. All Yozora had to do was suggest a plan (which wasn't a smart one to begin with) and Sena went way overboard. She must have been much lonelier than previously stated if she's desperate enough to not even second-guess Yozora, who clearly is no better off. Or Sena's that stupid...

Either way, the two of them are a great duo.

The highlight of the episode was when the two played the galge and kept calling the main girl a slutty bitch.

This series isn't anything deep, but the scenarios are fun to watch. "Semoponume" heh. The Monster Hunter bits were great too.

[Kraco]

Yeah, the Monster Hunter bits were great. One interesting thing about this show, I'd say so far as I'm far from sure it'll continue that way, is that Hasegawa doesn't seem to be a center of a harem. He does share the club with those two babes, but in fact both of those would rather have female friends. Of course this also renders Hasegawa so insignificant you barely remember he exists from time to time, but it also differentiates this show from the bulk of shows with a similar setting. But then again, like I said, that could still chance, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

Hmm, this show is starting to get a lot more interesting. I did like the way it toyed with clichés of the genre, with Sena learning to swim in an afternoon, rather than the typical drowning and rescue scenes. He also got to bitch her out for well...being a bitch.

Random tidbits:
- The insults Yozora throws Sena's way are just getting better and better. It's particularly notable that she used English to call her a dutch wife. There's no embellished translation here. Yozora is really being that vulgar with all the others.
- The Sacred Boobsmith hentai game? Heh.
- Does his sister have real heterochromia, and coincidently found an anime character with exactly the same colors, or is she somehow wearing a contact? Either way, it's cute that she's gotten lonely now that he's got a few friends.
- The first time he met Yozora...he punched her in the face. Awesome.

I suppose that the harem aspects are beginning to develop now with Sena and Kodaka's date, even if it was only she who realized that's what it really was by the end of it. Kodaka was just helping a friend. Then we've got Yozora as the childhood friend, a sister with a brother complex, and two or more girls also joining the club in the next episode or two. But it's clear it will be between Yozora and Sena.

[Kraco]

Yeah, it's developing to a harem direction. But on the other hand, I suppose it can't be helped. Yoroza apparently never forgot Kodaka - and possible never got another friend when he left - and for Sena he's the first honest guy, not a sycophant or some random nanpa dude. I thought this show was refreshing because it hadn't that aspect evident, or at least visible, in the beginning, but it's not like I wouldn't have enjoyed every moment of this episode. And at the very least it'll stay interesting when they introduce new character. I also expect some new crazy whims from Sena and Yozora.

It was also nice to see a little sister who wasn't violent, tsundere, self-righteous, or otherwise rude in her brother complex.

Last but not least: Kodaka putting on the tough guy appearance to scare off the chavs was a very good moment. It's so cliched to have a dude who everybody considers a tough guy but who isn't at all. Now he at least is proven to have some traits, even if in reality he'd rather be just one of the guys in the class.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

And so begins the jealous harem...

Yozora didn't get too jealous when Yukimura, the obviously a girl pretending to be a boy joined as Kodaka's underling, but she was very upset when Rika announced her intentions to monopolize Kodaka. Obviously, so was Sena (and Yukimura too), but I was a bit surprised to see Yozora getting so worked up about it so early. This is normally the kind of stuff that waits until the end of a series, but Haganai has slowly been working in the angles from the very beginning. That's a nice change of pace from the more typical formula.

Still, there is a clear cut distinction between who are major characters (Yozora and Sena) and who will ultimately just be scenery (Rika and Yukimura). Yozora and Sena each got an episode and a half of development, where the others are all smashed into a single episode.

Heh, Loli-nun-sensei is actually a loli-nun, not just a very small adult. Yozora is horribly abusive to plenty of people.

Next time it looks like we get Kobato versus Loli-nun. Kobato really has no choice, her brother will only be with the club more. Her pouting was very cute in this episode too.

[shinta|hikari]

I think Yukimura is really a boy, but then again, harems always have a way to make sure only the male lead is well.. male.

[Kraco]

Yozora really is cruel. It's no wonder she can't make friends with such a personality. But who knows, maybe she won't hate Kobato instantly. It wouldn't do her reputation in Kodaka's eyes any good if she did.

[Xelbair]

Meat dropped from 1st place of the awesomeness to second in favour of Rika.
I've been seriously laughing out loud when she was reading her manga.

[Marik]

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[Kraco]

The game won't sell, that much is clear.

Apparently they skipped a lot of source material what comes to Kobato joining the club, which is a pity if true. However, it was still a funny ep with all the references and typical Meat fanservice. Kobato also is a very nice character, despite the heterochromia turning out to be fake. I hope her whole existence in the club won't be limited to trying to win back Kodaka.

[Marik]

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[Kraco]

Every time Sena wins against Yozora in some way, I'm happy. Yozora is simply too cruel, and it's becoming too blatant she's not even interested in friends, only getting closer to Kodaka. I don't also know what manner of dualism her mind must possess to be so bold (and openly hostile) in front of others yet not have the guts to reveal the past to Kodaka.

Kobato's antics still continue to amuse me. Admirable detachment from reality.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

I sit firmly in the Sena camp. I like her naiveté, her tearful dashes out the door and down the hallway, and shy pleas for help getting caught up to the rest of the world. In spite of her physical appearance and casual attire, she's quite reserved.

She, Yozora, and Kodaka really came off pathetic this episode. Kodaka was okay, because he clearly had a cell to use to contact his family members, even if he didn't use it enough that he had to go looking for it. Sena at least didn't have one at all, she had a landline that she knew how to use, but obviously didn't utilize it that often. Yozora was the most pathetic. Yozora had a cellphone in the hope that she would one day be able to put friends into it, she didn't even have any family in it.

Sena is just somehow completely isolated from the normal world, despite always being followed by boys and being popular and fashionable. It's somewhat endearing that she's so shy in the face of Kodaka, who she deems to be a little more connected and up to date. She should obviously be talking to Rika and Yukimura. Despite their blatant quirks, they came off pretty normal this episode.

I am liking that Yozora's pranks are starting to backfire on her. She's trying to drive Sena off and get some enjoyment out of it, but since he taught her how to swim, Sena has started to flee to Kodaka. Sena is depending on him, like a friend would. Now Yozora ends up being the one left out, no matter how much she tries to ditch Sena from club activities. It's all part of Yozora's tomboy nature, but she's has to learn sometime.

[Kraco]

I was feeling like the jokes were getting a bit tired already in this ep. That's why I'm happy the next ep apparently will again take place elsewhere than the club room. That should bring some freshness onto the table again. And not that I'd mind the fanservice.

But yeah, I'm still liking Sena the most. She hasn't shown any such pure wickedness that oozes out of Yozora. She's just a little foolish and tries to mask her ignorance with fake pride. But when the reality hits, she's running quickly to Kodaka, like you said.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

Kobato using the latest episode of her favorite show to rationalize changing to cooler attire was adorable. As was her sudden shock that she hasn't been growing. It's not like she's malnourished, Kodaka has good cooking skills. Well, according to the other girls as well as anyone that sees her in public, Kobato got all the good genes and is allegedly quite the young beauty (might be all the lack of sun). Guess she can't win it all though, she's indeed cursed to be a loli.

Sena and she really do look like sisters, and I can see why Sena might get attached to her quickly, even if Kobato doesn't reciprocate. Here's hoping that is indicative of a Sena victory.

But this is three episodes in a row where things are getting a little depressing. It's not a bad thing, I certainly enjoy the shift from constant slapstick in these kinds of series. Kodaka's assessment was right though. The rest of them have started to become friends, while Yozora kind of pouts when she's not dominant, and can't really handle group/public activities.

I'm not sure why Rika left. Maybe the crowd size alone?

Next episode looks like Kodaka visits Sena's home.

[Marik]

Title: Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai ED Single - Watashi no Ki-mo-chi
Artist: Inoue Marina & Itou Kanae

Tracklist:
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2. Atashi no Ki-mo-chi
3. Watashi no Ki-mo-chi (Instrumental)
4. Atashi no Ki-mo-chi (Instrumental)

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[Kraco]

Good for Kobato's health the show suddenly gave her a reason to switch to a lighter clothing. Kodaka showing utter disinterest in Kobato changing right before his eyes was a welcome, though expected, detail. There have been too many shows where it would have proceeded very differently. They have a nicely normal relationship, or as normal as one can have with this show's characters.

I'm not complaining when things go better with Sena than Yozora. Despite her creepy attachment to Kobato in this ep, she's still far more agreeable than Yozora.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

That was a fun episode. A large part of it was definitely Yuzuki Ryouka (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=253) playing the steward with the nasty dry wit. She was a great comedy counterpoint to the insanity that is Sena and her father. As if it was a totally normal thing for Sena to run out of her own house like that.

Sena is truly a heavenly goddess as the ED depicts.

Kodaka is too nice for his own good. He should have admitted it, wherein Sena would immediately declare she was ineligible for marriage, and then he'd have to take responsibility. :D

The eyecatch at the end really shows how much Sena and Kobato look like sisters.

[Kraco]

The eyecatch at the end really shows how much Sena and Kobato look like sisters.

Maybe they are sisters. Sena is about as old as Kodaka, so perhaps their old man decided he can't take care of both a son and a daughter with his irresponsible lifestyle. So, he let his best friend adopt the girl. With Kodaka already around and older, Kobato wouldn't have been a problem any longer.

Regardless, Kodaka did receive some awesome fanservice. Despite everything (like sharing the bed with another dude) he must feel lucky they ended up staying overnight.

But yeah, a jolly good episode. I like little details like Kobato behaving (and looking) normally during the somewhat formal visit to the Kashiwazaki household. Other than that visit, I think the whole long horse demon scene was great.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

Rika owned this episode. She can make anything erotic. First was her initial Gundam/Eva parody, and now train linkages. Then her attempt at sneaking into his bed. Though admittedly, I still can't see how she of all people can believe that Yukimura is a boy. I know why she gladly would pretend otherwise in order to fulfill her twisted yaoi fantasies...

Yozora won a few points back in this episode. Her abuse of Sena wasn't overly mean this time (though she still used extremely derogatory words for her) but there was also a playfulness to it. She had a nice moment with Kodaka too, and her story will likely jog Kodaka's memory about his childhood friend (who is very obviously Yozora). She has usually come off vindictive, this time she came off far less harshly.

Sadly, Sena's only contribution this episode was being topless in front of Kodaka for a second day in a row.

All in all, Kodaka is shaping up to be a more than above average protagonist. He's diligent (cooking and actually enjoying doing it), caring (for both his sister and Maria), kind (twice lying to Sena about not seeing her bare breasts), and thoughtful (helping everyone else to the bathroom until sunrise without any real grumbling, and spending the time thinking about Yozora's story and how it relates to him). He's also got a backbone (defending Sena at the pool and the other times he uses his threatening appearance for good). He's a voice of common sense, although he could be a bit more assertive using it. Yet he doesn't really fade into the background despite being relatively "normal" compared to any of the girls.

[Kraco]

Yozora getting scared of her own story was pretty funny. It didn't even look like she'd have just acted it to spend time with Kodaka. Though inventing that story was surely intentional. The obligatory Yozora bullying Sena scene was also nicer than in many of the other eps, like Ryll said. At least Sena was enjoying it...

After Ryll wrote so lengthily about the brother, I have to mention I also like the little sister. She gets helped by Kodaka a lot but unlike in great many annoying shows doesn't repay it by being obnoxius. It's rather cute how much she relies on him and listens to him in the absence of their parents and apparently in the absence of friends of her own. It seems like such a warm family. Though Kodaka would probably do a service to her by trying to teach her to be a bit more self-reliant.

[Marik]

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[Kraco]

I suppose it had to happen already, considering the show ends next week. In fact it wasn't even a bad way of achieving the needed jolt for Kodaka's demented memory. Yozora's personality change the moment Kodaka uttered the nickname looked rather dubious, but perhaps it was only an illusion created by the episode ending right afterwards. It would be strange if her disagreeable personality suddenly mellowed too much. It didn't really seem all acting.

Quite a gray episode otherwise, with only a few good scenes.

[vejita613]

If indeed they share the same universe as Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai, then I fear for Kobato. Sena by herself is bad enough...

[Ryllharu]

If indeed they share the same universe as Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai, then I fear for Kobato. Sena by herself is bad enough...Indeed. I smiled at the short cameo too.

It almost seemed like the festival was a date between Kodaka and Rika. She acting fairly normal during the whole event. Guess the compliment on her appearance really gave her a boost of confidence to get over her agoraphobia, at least temporarily.

While the audience knowing Kodaka's childhood friend was Yozora doesn't help, the nickname is incredibly obvious. Honestly, how could he have forgotten something as easy as that? I don't know if I like the personality shift. It seems too easy for her to go all soft just because of that. Yozora had some pretty serious personality flaws and issues that none of the other girls have.

[Marik]

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[Ryllharu]

I did not think so at the end of last episode, but short hair really does suit Yozora. She looks nice that way.

That said, Rika stole the momentum of the whole episode with her extreme yaoi lunacy. Yozora was owning the episode with her drama, and then Rika's short scene overwhelmed any presence that Yozora might have had. Rika is just so unaware yet vulgar. She was cavorting around in the chair, showing her underwear to the whole room.

I still like Sena a lot more for all her own hilarious issues, but Yozora gained a lot this episode. The skirt flashback was kinda cute. Yozora hitting Sena with the flyswatter in the face seems very mean. It's somehow nastier than it should be, because although she doesn't hit her that hard, flyswatters typically are pretty gross. Still makes me smile.

Though I still loved the most that 5 second scene of Maria and Kobato attacking each other with Kodaka referencing the point of the club is to make friends. It felt like a nice place to imagine that somehow, the two of them will become close friends later.

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I really enjoyed this series. I hope it gets a second season. In the meantime, I might have to seek out the novel translations.

[Xelbair]

Translations are at Baka-Tsuki, but it is not fully translated yet.

[Ryllharu]

Translations are at Baka-Tsuki, but it is not fully translated yet.

Somehow, you misspelled Vexed Scans. Baka-Tsuki is using their translation.

[vejita613]

You know, before this episode, I all but hated Yozora. I really didn't care much for how she treated some of the others, especially Sena and Maria. I kind of forgave Senas case since a) it kept her from becoming too full of herself and b) well...it was funny. Maria on other hand, I couldn't quite understand until now. I don't know why it took me so long to realize that she can be a real brat at times. So, I guess Yozoras treatment is needed to keep her in place. I guess my point is that its easy to misjudge people until you see things from their point of view. I dare say that shes actually kind of...cute?

Overall, this series has exceeded my expectations. I came into this series looking for a good comedy. While I didn't find it as funny as the manga, it surpassed it on every other level. Really though, I felt this series could have been a bit longer as some things felt rushed and there was good material left out. Still though, I had to drop several series this season due to various reasons, but I'm glad I didn't drop this.



I really enjoyed this series. I hope it gets a second season. In the meantime, I might have to seek out the novel translations.
I also recommend the manga, especially if you can't get a hold of the LN. Atleast the first. There's another one called "Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Plus" which has him meet Sena first and they are the ones that start the club. Its OK so far (it only has three chapters), but I seem to enjoy the original storyline better.

[KrayZ33]

Somehow, you misspelled Vexed Scans. Baka-Tsuki is using their translation.
somehow you completely misread what he posted

I enjoyed this show and I'm so happy it didn't turn out to be Taka x Sora just because they met 10 years ago. That would've been lame

[Ryllharu]

somehow you completely misread what he posted
Somehow, you misplaced your sense of humor.


I enjoyed this show and I'm so happy it didn't turn out to be Taka x Sora just because they met 10 years ago. That would've been lame

It's too soon to say that yet. He was obviously affected by learning that Yozora was his very close friend from years ago. Yozora is trying to display that the past is past and that she wants to move on because he confused her intentions years ago. Combined with her failed "confession" as a result of her being too shy to show off her girl clothes and then him moving away. It is extremely likely that Yozora remains hurt that he took so long to remember her, and is playing it tsuntsun, after that brief glimmer of dere mode. The flashback showing their first meeting from her point of view showed that pretty well. Her shyness keeps backfiring on her, so she's going cold and mean as a means to cover it.

Kodaka is going to keep seeing Yozora in a different light from now on. With the right momentum, it might be inevitable. I guess it really only depends on whether Yozora gets over her shyness and begins to more actively pursue him instead of sticking to the roundabout plan of keeping him near her. No matter how hard Sena may try to break the chain, it's an uphill battle for her now.

We need a second season so that we can get a conclusion.

[KrayZ33]

I don't think her shyness is keeping them apart at the moment
in my opinion, she is .. well,"dissappointed"
she confronted him with the truth and his reaction has been pretty much "whatever"
they both know they are not at the same level as they were 10 years ago, which is why she doesn't want him to call her Sora.

sure, they'll eventually end up together, but keeps my spirit high (I'm rooting for Taka x Sena) is that Taka didn't turn 180° and fell in love with her right after the "secret" has been solved.
The fact that he thought of her as a "boy" back then is probably also a reason why that isn't the case here

[Kraco]

they both know they are not at the same level as they were 10 years ago, which is why she doesn't want him to call her Sora.

Also, Sora was a boy, and Yozora would now very much prefer Taka to consider her a proper girl.

Quite a nice series all in all. Like has been said, Yozora gained much in this episode, and on the other hand this episode had Sena show her worst qualities instead of the better ones she has usually shown Taka during the show. I was a heavy Sena shipper earlier but if this show ever intends to continue, I wouldn't anymore be so sure. One thing that doesn't change, though, is that Kobato was a delightful character.

[Buffalobiian]

Just marathoned this. Didn't expect to laugh so much.

Rika's a good addition in the band, but I simply just can't like those types of characters no matter how useful or funny they are at moving the story along.

Sena and "Ika-chaa~n!!" Kobato ftw!

[Marik]

The "Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai (Haganai) Premium Event" announced on Sunday that an original video anime called Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Add On Disc was green-lit for release on September 26. The video anime release will include the unaired 13th episode.

Haganai Gets New Original Video Anime on September 26 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-05-06/haganai-gets-original-video-anime-on-september-26)

[Marik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD2VU7vsFnE&feature=player_embedded

9/26 is too far away. :(

[Marik]

Haganai School Comedy TV Anime Gets 2nd Season (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-07-29/haganai-tv-anime-gets-2nd-season)

:)

[Ryllharu]

About time. There's so much good stuff they didn't get to yet. That and I can't get enough of the crescent moon smiles art styles. Now if they would only give us another season of Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko...

They left us hanging with Kodaka realizing he and Yozora were once friends. The club reacted to it and it just cut off there.

[Marik]

Haganai's 2nd Season Slated for January 2013 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-18/haganai-2nd-season-slated-for-january-2012)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qRGxtqDj9Wg

[vejita613]

Wow, that's kind of...fast. Animation looks alot better this time around too. How well did this do last time anyways?

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai - 13 [FF6E0982].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=356685)

[Buffalobiian]

Sena grabbing the flyswatter and hitting Yozora with it did not come a moment too soon. It doesn't even come close to returning the abuse she gets all the time. :(

Luckily she has Kobato-chan to recharge her energy with.

[Kraco]

That was some novel... I didn't expect them to go so all out, but in retrospect it certainly was fitting.

I agree on it being the high time for Sena to pay back with the flyswatter. For a moment I even thought she would lick Yozora's shoe, but fortunately it didn't happen.

[animus]

Man, I must be really immature, but I laughed the hardest in the story with all the poop.

[Ryllharu]

I gain tremendous joy from watching Maria and Kobato fight. Kobato looks 10, but is 13, and wrestles with a nun, who actually is 10. I can only imagine they'll be best friends in a year or two.

Of course, Rika's ultimate perversion robot porn was the funniest part. The tone she uses describes it comes off so graphic, and she reacts to it so perversely, but it's usually just one robot firing a beam cannon at another, with simply too much technical detail. I guess this was a reactor power transfer. She told us how she was going to satisfy herself (Code Geass Nina Style!), but god only knows what else she does in the Rika Room (the science lab).

[shinta|hikari]

Kodaka must have no sexual organs if he is still blind to all the loving he is constantly receiving from everyone.

I loved the rape scene the most. The monster's dick was a huge mouth nibbling on Sena's lower half AND it wasn't censored. Yeah, faved.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 01 [7F653193].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=391685)

[vejita613]

Love the new animation style. Much more fitting than the first season.

Also, watching Pegasus punishing Sena for her hair was very......very..............................what was I saying?

[Archangel]

So when exactly did Sena go full blow homo for Yozora? I feel I've missed something...

Maybe homoness just runs in the family

[Ryllharu]

I would say your fears were unfounded Arch. The art style is still pretty much a match.

If there was any change of note, it is closer to the novel illustrations now. Still got the crescent moon smiles. That's the key.

[Archangel]

Oh yeah no, art looks great.

[Kraco]

Kodaka must have no sexual organs if he is still blind to all the loving he is constantly receiving from everyone.


So when exactly did Sena go full blow homo for Yozora? I feel I've missed something...

Maybe homoness just runs in the family

Yeah, there wasn't so much Kodaka love in this episode compared to Sena-Yozora love. It felt like she invited him mainly to gloat over her Yozora obsession, considering how she didn't even attempt to help him with the studies, was offended by him looking at her, yet turned all ecstatic when talking about Yozora. At least she had the decency not to send him home right away when he arrived without Kobato.

[Ryllharu]

You guys get that this is an entire club of people so inept at social interaction that they needed to make a club? It's not much of a surprise that Kodaka is a moron when it comes to affection (other than sisterly/brotherly, and even there he doesn't quite understand the level that Kobato clings to him).

In addition, throughout the past term, they haven't yet gotten even a hint that they are already friends. Each exercise they have to mingle with "normals" is prefaced with a statement like, "Once we understand this, we will be able to each get our own friends!"

- Yozora has it so bad that she fabricated an entire club to try to get closer to Kodaka without admitting she was his childhood friend, and was far too shy to admit to Kodaka that she was actually a girl.
- Sena in her insane desperation caught the secret message on the posters that Yozora had made intentionally obscure so the club would only be her and Kodaka.
- Kobato very likely has zero friends, and didn't like that someone was breaking the monopoly on her brother.
- Rika has never had any friends because she is terrified of crowds, and was treated specially for much of her life.
- Yukimura is...just weird.
- Maria is another isolated genius-airhead to Rika's genius-pervert, but if she ever thought about it she'd realize that she and Kobato are each other's best friends already (despite Kobato being about 4 years older).

[vejita613]

Isn't Yukimura just following Kodoka around? And, due to being so naive, doing whatever it takes to be a man, even if it means dressing up as a maid? I hope they go further into that story this season. And soon because I'm tired of trying to avoid the use of certain pronouns when addressing Yukimura.

[Buffalobiian]

I thought it was weird that Rika would join Yozora in baiting Sena. My impression from last season was that she's only interested in robot-love. (and BL).

Love the attention to detail this season.

[Archangel]

I thought it was weird that Rika would join Yozora in baiting Sena. My impression from last season was that she's only interested in robot-love. (and BL).
That's what i'm saying, it's like we've missed character developments. Did they skip any volumes between this and the first season?

[Ryllharu]

No volumes were skipped, nor was even a single chapter skipped.

It's just that Rika isn't as screwed up in the head [about interpersonal relationships] as the others are...amazingly enough. She just can't handle crowds and has a thing for robot porn. God knows what she does in the Rika Room.

Rika has always teased others in the group. Mostly Kodaka, but also Yozora (remember the costume incident after her haircut?) and now Sena. This time she was just a bit more overt about it. She doesn't seem to bother teasing Yukimura too much, because she gets all the BL jollies she needs in the normal interactions.

edit:
Don't forget that Rika isn't just interested in Robot Porn and BL. She's not joking about wanting to have sex with Kodaka. She's been serious about it this whole time, for both academic and romantic reasons, and her sincerity creeps out Kodaka.

If you haven't noticed any of this, it's because you were ignoring/dismissing Rika. It's all there in the stuff she says between lustful panting and ranting. She's my favorite character after Sena, then followed by Maria.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 02 [AA292D99].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=394107)

[vejita613]

A cute Rika. An embarrassed Yozora. A farting nun.

Best episode ever.

On a less positive note, I think this is the first time that I ever felt negative towards Sena with her "know it all" attitude. Probably just brings back bad memories of my own school days. I'm sure I'll give over it by next week. Speaking of which, next episode looks very, very interesting.

[animus]

I'm kinda surprised the older nun wasn't a senpai. Kodaka's harem already has people younger than him, and the same age. There's no one in his harem who's older.

[Ryllharu]

Given her past history with Kodaka, it would figure that Yozora is weak to manly, yaoi-style friendships. She might be worse than Yukimura on that front.

If Sister Kate is 15...and Kobato is 13...that's pretty sad for Kobato. Sure, Maria is 10, but it won't be long before she looks older than Kobato.

I liked the fact that Rika changed her look. She's still Rika, but getting embarrassed by Kodaka's words was worthwhile. Given her massive levels of perversion, you wouldn't expect such a girly reaction.

[Buffalobiian]

If Sister Kate is 15...and Kobato is 13...that's pretty sad for Kobato. Sure, Maria is 10, but it won't be long before she looks older than Kobato.

It won't be that bad. Kobato (the never-aging vampire) will remain being a cute little sister while Maria upgrades to "old hag".

I don't think there was anything wrong with Sena's response. It's all the better (as far as the real point of comparing answers is concerned) that Sena's pretty much got perfect grades. And if this was about "practising making friends".. well Yozora just failed that.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 03 [9EF5A349].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=396787)

[Archangel]

Yozora, cockblocker extraordinaire.

[Buffalobiian]

I was expecting Kodaka to decide to kiss Sena's hand in a knightly manner on his own accord, but I suppose the indirect-kiss method works out better since it had foreshadowing.

[Kraco]

Too bad they didn't get to finish. Despite the audience, it was a nice looking scene.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 04 [14FE887E].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=399169)

[Archangel]

...how does a woman who seems to be not lacking in any general common sense anywhere else thinks she's a dude without a penis? Dafuq.

[Ryllharu]

Everyone of the main cast has one severe character flaw or another.

- Kodaka is denser than lead and has a terrible sense of humor (but thinks he is good at jokes).
- Sena is a creepy stalker, booksmart, but lacking any common sense.
- Yozora's idea of how a normal relationship progresses is so backward that she keeps trying tricks to be alone with Kodaka, which always backfire on her.
- Rika is obviously a colossal pervert and has a bad case of agoraphobia (technically Ochlophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochlophobia)).
- Yukimura is very, very, very confused. Probably intentionally misled by her family.
- Kobato is childish, insecure, a little dumb, and has a severe brother complex.
- Maria is a genius, but exceptionally gullible.

[Archangel]

Well even among all the retarded shit, this is still pretty retarded.

[Ryllharu]

I honestly do not know how you deluded yourself into thinking Yukimura was a boy all this time. You must have really wanted her to be a trap.

It's not the difficult to understand really, given the vague reason she gave. Family issues. Her family probably kept her sheltered most of this time, and they're assuredly a very traditional, former samurai family from her intense interest in Japanese feudal history. They got a girl, and intentionally misled her into believing she was a boy, because that's what they wanted.

I even bet she is an only child.



Similarly, Sena is sheltered, her maid/butler does everything for her, her father is overprotective, so of course she lacks common sense.
Maria is young, doted on by her overprotective yet stern older sister, of course she is naive.
Rika is ostracizes herself due to her preferences, and stereotypically hates crowds to go along with her intelligence, she's social enough though.
Kobato is shy, realizes that she looks very young for her age, but really enjoys the fact that her brother takes care of her, and correspondingly has developed a brother complex.
Kodaka is a nice guy, but got betrayed by his best friend at a young age (Yozora) when she stood him up, and is treated poorly by others due to his appearance.

The one who is hard to understand is Yozora. Saying she's shy doesn't cut it. She has serious issues. Every time she's mean to Sena, she inevitably drives Kodaka closer to Sena, because he ends up pitying Sena. Yozora just doesn't seem to get it. Kodaka already knows that she was his former best friend. All she has to do is talk to him. Instead, she's too focused on trying to exclude everyone else before she makes the attempt.

[Kraco]

The one who is hard to understand is Yozora. Saying she's shy doesn't cut it. She has serious issues. Every time she's mean to Sena, she inevitably drives Kodaka closer to Sena, because he ends up pitying Sena. Yozora just doesn't seem to get it. Kodaka already knows that she was his former best friend. All she has to do is talk to him. Instead, she's too focused on trying to exclude everyone else before she makes the attempt.

She's just evil, that's all.

[Buffalobiian]

The one who is hard to understand is Yozora. Saying she's shy doesn't cut it. She has serious issues. Every time she's mean to Sena, she inevitably drives Kodaka closer to Sena, because he ends up pitying Sena. Yozora just doesn't seem to get it. Kodaka already knows that she was his former best friend. All she has to do is talk to him. Instead, she's too focused on trying to exclude everyone else before she makes the attempt.

I see it as that she no longer ONLY wants Kodaka as a friend, so she wants to keep their current relationship with the club in order to enjoy everybody's company. She might dislike people hogging Kodaka, but right now I don't think she minds sharing him.

Did anybody hear Sena's screams come from the R audio channel while Sora's came out of the L? That's how I interpreted it based on the contents of the speech, and it seemed rather weird that it'd be inverted like that compared to the visuals.

I've gone on a few roller coasters a fair few times and they don't scare me anymore, sadly. I've only gone on a dropping-machine once, and while it did gain enough acceleration to lurch my innards, there wasn't enough height for it to last longer than a single second or so.

[Kraco]

I see it as that she no longer ONLY wants Kodaka as a friend, so she wants to keep their current relationship with the club in order to enjoy everybody's company. She might dislike people hogging Kodaka, but right now I don't think she minds sharing him.

I wouldn't go that far. She's clearly given up some, though, and accepted she can't anymore get rid of everybody else to monopolize Kodaka. But that's all. She doesn't even communicate with Kobato, who is someone impossible to separate from Kodaka for reasons that must be obvious even to Yozora.

[Archangel]

Fail, please delete.

[Ryllharu]

I see it as that she no longer ONLY wants Kodaka as a friend, so she wants to keep their current relationship with the club in order to enjoy everybody's company. She might dislike people hogging Kodaka, but right now I don't think she minds sharing him.
She absolutely wants to get rid of all the other girls.

She tries to drive Sena away every day. Yozora was horrified that someone else actually showed up to her silly club, the fact that Sena was desperate enough to see her super secret message that even Kodaka needed explained was notable enough. She's usually successful at making her run away in tears, but again, Sena is just way too desperate for friends.

Watch episode 2 of this season again. When Kodaka mentions that Rika's recent style changes are right within his strike zone, Yozora lashes out immediately. She'd drive Rika off if she could, but thankfully Rika is bizarre enough on her own that she doesn't deem her a true threat. Rika definitely pisses Yozora off, but I think she understands that while she can't do anything to her (because Rika will outsmart her), Kodaka will never really be attracted to her.

Yozora was devastated this episode that Yukimura turned out to be a girl. Furthermore, what she had been doing just to mess with the "pretty boy" who liked to hang around Kodaka (initially stalking Kodaka), backfired complete, because she had unknowingly turned her into a maid fetish object with a selfless devotion to Kodaka. Precisely the last thing she would want. You can see from the preview what Yozora's next step is.

Maria is a child, so she's not worried there. Also essential, because she's the club advisor. Messing with Maria is Yozora's only joy in life. Still, remember that Yozora tricked Maria out of the room for a while initially, forcing her to nap on the chapel pews. She got rid of her one way or another.

Kobato, like Kraco said, she never even seems to speak to.

Yozora doesn't accept any of them except Maria, now that she's found out Yukimura is a girl. The only reason they're still around is Yozora thinks she has "the worst luck," when she schemes too much, inevitably causing most of them to backfire on her.

[Kraco]

Yozora doesn't accept any of them except Maria, now that she's found out Yukimura is a girl. The only reason they're still around is Yozora thinks she has "the worst luck," when she schemes too much, inevitably causing most of them to backfire on her.

She certainly doesn't accept any of them, but more often than not she has been forced to play along with the club thing, because there's no way around it. She's too broken to meet Kodaka outside of the club (something Sena does surprisingly easily) and there's practically no way anymore to make it a club of just two.

[Buffalobiian]

Wouldn't the case with S1-Rika, male Yukimura plus Kobato suggest that she's okay as long as they're friend-zoned? She seems to bite when the "potential love interest" flag gets raised, more so than anything else.

[animus]

Man, I laughed so hard when Rika said fuck right as the rollercoaster dropped.

[vejita613]

The rollercoaster scene in general was great. I liked how both Sena and Yozora were calling Kodoka's name half-way through it.

Question: Why didn't Kobato go into the men's bath?

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 05 [12F80420].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=401666)

[vejita613]

Interesting. Makes me wonder how Kodoka is going to talk himself out of this one. Also, I kind of feel like Rika has lost some points with me this episode with all the hair style changes and yelling at Sena (although Sena should explained). It's funny how this season keeps making me want to flip flop all my favorite characters around. For example, I didn't care much for Maria up until last episode (plus the Air Recital Special). Anyways, good episode nonetheless.

[Buffalobiian]

Interesting. Makes me wonder how Kodoka is going to talk himself out of this one. Also, I kind of feel like Rika has lost some points with me this episode with all the hair style changes and yelling at Sena (although Sena should explained). It's funny how this season keeps making me want to flip flop all my favorite characters around. For example, I didn't care much for Maria up until last episode (plus the Air Recital Special). Anyways, good episode nonetheless.

When Rika changes all the time, she kind of loses her identity and feels like a weaker character overall. I didn't have a problem with the earlier changes, but the hair went a little too far for me. Zetsuen parody got a smile out of me.

And I still don't care for Maria.

[Ryllharu]

When Rika changes all the time, she kind of loses her identity and feels like a weaker character overall. I didn't have a problem with the earlier changes, but the hair went a little too far for me.
Yes, because a girl changing her hairstyle between ponytails, pigtails, or braids changes her personality. :rolleyes:

I am stunned to see this kind of comment from you.

[Buffalobiian]

Yes, because a girl changing her hairstyle between ponytails, pigtails, or braids changes her personality. :rolleyes:

I am stunned to see this kind of comment from you.

I said identity, not personality. As far as anime characters are concerned, hairstyle forms part of their identity - not to mention hair colour.

[Ryllharu]

Except unlike most generic romantic comedies (usually the ones based on h-games), each of Haganai's female cast has more personality. They're a bit beyond the usual range, "Oh, I like cooking and my adopted brother, Tee hee!"

There's quite a bit more material to differentiate them from each other than by their haircolor and style. They're not single-trait characters. Excepting Yozora, the girls have motivations beyond having alone time with Kodaka.

You've failed on a basic level to see past the surface.

[animus]

I'd say her hair changing is part of her charm/character. She's doing it to get a compliment/reaction out of Kodaka. Not to mention she's always been spontaneous and an otaku.

[vejita613]

It's not so much that she's changing her hair or whatever that bothers me, it's that she's doing it so rapidly. How many times did she change this episode? 3? 4? More so if you count the rest of the season. I get why she's doing it, and that's fine. I'm just saying give me a second to breathe and take it all in.

[Buffalobiian]

I'd say her hair changing is part of her charm/character. She's doing it to get a compliment/reaction out of Kodaka. Not to mention she's always been spontaneous and an otaku.

And on the other hand, I like stability. I also saw the frequent change in hairstyle as being desperate for a compliment. That desperation comes across to me as her feeling weaker in character - on top of the visual effects of hairstyle/colour changing.

(Note that she may not truly be weaker since she recently revealed that she uses glasses for appearances anyway - indicating she's always been trying to appeal with her looks all along. It's the sudden change in pace of "Look at me!" that contributes to the emotion and feeling of weakening.)


You've failed on a basic level to see past the surface.

As far as anime is concerned, I place a lot of emphasis on the surface (ie looks). I admit that.

While I don't agree with you that I failed to see past the surface (at least in this case), just because I can see beyond the surface doesn't mean it overrides the surface components (or that it contributes to the decision-making process in a relatively significant way).

---------

And that means: I liked Sena before I even watched the show. She's hot, got long blond hair and has a nice hair accessory. After watching I still like her for pretty much the same reasons.

I liked Yosora a bit more after her haircut not because her attitude changed, but because she looked better.

Yukimura... I never treated her as a girl in my books, so he's in the "whatever" category.

Kobato's like a mini-Sena. And goth-loli wins.

Maria: never really liked nuns that much. Shitty, bratty character made it worse.

Rika: Never really clicked. The first change-up felt refreshing and better, but also made her less defined (glasses/simple-hairstyle/labcoat archetype) - yet that was alright.

[shinta|hikari]

I generally am pretty shallow when liking anime characters, but I can grow to dislike ones I previously liked based on aesthetics if they suck as a character.

I love Rika no matter how she looks.

UNIVERSE!!!

[KrayZ33]

Rika manages to look very good in this season.

maybe I have something for that over-shoulder hairstyle (see yuusha-thread) but that looked really good on her. The other ones were nice to look at too, I'm actually really glad about her changing her hair so often

and in my opinion she is also the most amusing character in the show... and recently (last 2-3 episodes) the most "normal" of all the girls
totally different from what I could remember about her in the first season, where she was all "boyzluv" , "Mechasex" and a "soon to be lesbian"

[Kraco]

and in my opinion she is also the most amusing character in the show... and recently (last 2-3 episodes) the most "normal" of all the girls

Nah. She's definitely the mad scientist she tries to be. The other girls have their bad personality problems, but they are still much closer to Earth. Rika is just somewhere out there, and I doubt the others really understand half of what she means with her actions and ramblings. Naturally that does make her quite interesting, compared to someone like Yozora, who's only anti-social and ill-mannered, little else.

[Ryllharu]

As absurdly backwards as it may seem, I agree with KrayZ33. Rika actually comes off as the most "normal" of the girls.

Sure, she's the worst kind of fujoshi, reads her mecha porn aloud, tries to get Kodaka to have sex with her, wastes no time in feeling Yukimura up in a public hallway, tells the others that she has to go to the "Rika Room" and masturbate on a desk or something...

...but she actually seems to understand what normal social behavior is meant to be. She just doesn't really care most of the time.

In this recent episode, when Sena stupidly tries to get back at Yozora by doing exactly what she did back to her, laughing snidely at all the same points, putting in the random name, etc., Rika confronts her directly. Not in a particularly crazy way, but more of a, "Why would you even think that is appropriate way to act after the way you're treated? Do you not realize that getting Yozora to play games benefits you too?"

Aside from the overt attempts at getting Kodaka to like her fuck her, she changes her hair to draw his attention once she realizes that she is his type (since he did admit it). That's a fairly normal thing to do. Maybe not to the extreme where she dyed it blond, but she's definitely trying to pinpoint his preferences, another frequently used tactic by "normals." Compare that to Yozora, who feels that she only way she and Kodaka can continue their friendship or go beyond that is if the two of them are completely alone. Or Sena, who is too stupid to realize it. Or Kobato, who obviously wants to monopolize him.

She's weird as hell, sure, but I think that she, "gets it," the way that the others don't.

Yukimura might be on her way there too, now that she comprehends that she is, in fact, a girl. It already feels like Yukimura is pretty happy with the "more natural" relationship available to her, instead of the samurai-page love affair approach she was going with (see episode 13, the group story writing event).

[Kraco]

Yes, I agree she gets everything that normal people should, unlike the other girls, and in that sense she's more normal than the others. But unlike normal people Rika doesn't have any limiters to her behavior, which is quite abnormal. That's why she's a mad scientist: Everything that can be done will be done.

[Yukimura]

I am also on the Rika rocks bandwagon, if it weren't for the fact that I think she deserves and could only reasonably maintain a relationship with someone more interesting and 'extroverted' let's say than Kodaka I might root for her pairing. As it is I still stand by the OTP of Kodaka x Sena. Kobato x Maria would make a nice lesbian beta couple once Maria realizes its stupid to be a child genius nun. I will also only be fully satisfied if Yozora ends up living a long life as the Japanese equivalent of a cat lady, receiving occasional post cards from Kodaka and his happy family to remind her how much she failed.

[Buffalobiian]

OTP

=Obvious True Pairing?

I would have thought that Sora was the true pairing, with Sena being the red-herring who would never actually get Kodaka. :(

[Ryllharu]

No way. Sena is the one he belongs with.

Sena is booksmart but a ditz and needs a trustworthy, sensible guy like Kodaka (despite his terrible sense of humor) to keep her insanity in check. She hasn't been afraid or embarrassed to ask him for help twice so far (swimming lesson and cell phone), she just didn't want other girls, specifically Yozora, to use her lack of experience and knowledge as an insult against her. His big hurdle will be toning down her creepy behavior around Kobato. Sena never had problems getting boyfriend candidates, she wanted female friends. However, she does need someone who will let her be herself...within reason.

The point would be for Sena to steal Kodaka at a natural pace while Yozora keeps sitting on the sidelines scheming about how to get rid of all her rivals rather than just talking to Kodaka. Yozora appears to believe that that once they are alone, they'll just miraculously become friends again. If she loses Kodaka romantically to Sena of all people, then Yozora might learn her lesson, be herself, like Sena does all the time.

[vejita613]

Somehow, I doubt it will be that easy for Yozora. If (and a big IF) something should happen between Sena and Kodoka, I can imagine Yozora getting worse before getting better.

Speaking of which, Sena and Kodoka getting together seems too good to be true. Don't get me wrong, I want it to happen. But, it seems like the author is making their relationship too obvious. Plus, I doubt it would set too well with Kobato.

[Archangel]

You're all assuming Kodaka wants to get it on with any of them, the way i see it the dude just wants a friend and somehow got surrounded by bitches who all want his dick.

[shinta|hikari]

That's exactly it, I think.

I don't see him opposed to the idea though.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 06 [3947814D].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=404139)

[Kraco]

How can Sena ace academics yet still fall for such basic fortune telling, especially coming from her archenemy? Anyway, I was happy to see Yozora's initial plan to monopolize Kodaka fail once again.

It looks like in the next ep they will be elsewhere than in the club room, which is always welcome.

[Ryllharu]

Sena exemplifies pure innocence and naiveté, with a touch of hubris.

I think her very first phonecall...ever, where she called Kodaka in order to ask him about cellphones last season displayed that nicely. Her lack of experience in so many things makes her a bit gullible. She was so overly polite and followed some kind of bizarre 19th century phone etiquette.

She's sheltered and cared for by her father and Stella, and unfortunately for her, her natural inclination is to trust people who flatter her. She probably didn't do much but study before she joined this group. Now she has other hobbies like stalking Yozora, trying to get Kobato to like her, and playing ero games.

[vejita613]

I'm surprised that they resolved the osananajimi thing so quickly. I guess the others felt they couldn't do anything about it and just dropped it? Good episode overall. Nice to see the others put on the maid uniform (although the OP was a bit deceiving).

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 07 [D9E128BA].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=406430)

[Archangel]

Kate gets points for being reasonable, too bad she's a dirty hog of a chick.

[Kraco]

Kate gets points for being reasonable, too bad she's a dirty hog of a chick.

She has got a real woman's body, though.

It's starting to seem like the girls are getting more and more frustrated by Kodaka's tungsten worthy density.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 08 [F483479A].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=408767)

[Archangel]

People with Down's don't have this much trouble making friends. The joke stops being funny went they try to force drama out of it.

[vejita613]

Good job Sena.

Also, I wonder how many more episodes until Rika finally snaps.

[Buffalobiian]

Good job Sena.

Exactly. About time someone told her to stick it.

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 09 [E19E0537].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=411163)

[vejita613]

Looks like Yozora's broken.

[Archangel]

Looks like Yozora's broken.
Yayifications!

[Buffalobiian]

Looks like Yozora's broken.

Not sure that I like a broken Yozora, but there was sooo much satisfaction when Sena slapped her, both because:

1) Sena finally gets to use the flyswatter for once, and
2) Yozora slumping was so pathetic that it warranted the slap.

Sakamichi no Apollon Taiyo reference.. didn't expect that one.

[vejita613]

1) Sena finally gets to use the flyswatter for once.

I thought she used it atleast once before?

It is nice to see Sena developing a backbone. I just hope it doesn't inflate her ego more than what it already is.

[Ryllharu]

It's nice to see Yozora completely unraveling. First she loses the "childhood friend" advantage she had over Sena, and then Kodaka finds out the plagiarized the entire script. Her "genius" writing ability just doesn't exist.

Then on the other side, Kodaka found out even more how amazing Sena is in terms of natural ability. If you combine this new information with her admission two episodes ago that Stella picks out all her clothes and does her makeup for her, it reinforces the idea that she really is a modern-day princess.

I just hope that Yozora's fall from grace combined with Sena officially being his fiancée doesn't result in a sympathy-pick kind of victory for Yozora. That would be terrible. Yozora is best left as Kodaka's best friend, while Sena becomes his wife. Someone with a level of common sense is necessary to keep her in line. Kodaka is certainly more aware of Sena in that way than any of the other girls, and Sena definitely likes Kodaka (with the bonus of becoming Kobato's sister-in-law). It's not clear that Yozora wants anything more out of Kodaka that can't be satisfied with being his friend. She just wants to be his only friend.

[Buffalobiian]

I just hope that Yozora's fall from grace combined with Sena officially being his fiancée doesn't result in a sympathy-pick kind of victory for Yozora.

I'm totally expecting that to happen. Not so sure about the sympathy-kick, but Yozora's victory. Other people don't care about the whole childhood thing, but if you were to stack it up against Sena's photo and engagement, Yozora wins in practice.

Kodaka doesn't remember meeting Sena when they were kids and just called off the engagement as well. While on paper Sena wins in all regards, Kodaka's childhood with Yozora is the the only bit that's meaningful to him. (or, perhaps more accurately, was more meaningful to him).

It's still hard for me to imagine Sena being athletic though. Not when she swings her elbows in that stereotypical, girlish run.


I thought she used it atleast once before?

You may be right, now that you mention it.

[Kraco]

Based on everything we have seen during these two seasons, I have no idea how on Earth Kodaka could have been friends with Yozora back in their childhood. The dude's so unbelievably dense and stupid. In that sense I'm actually also expecting Yozora to win. Maybe Kodaka suffered a major concussion back then, temporarily allowing him to accept a friend when his brain was rattled, and Yozora happened to be at hand. But now that he's his normal self, he's 100% rejecting anybody attempting to become a friend, so the others haven't got a chance. But then again, logically Yozora would be stuck in the friend zone, because analogously Kodaka should be unable to allow her to upgrade her status to a girlfriend.

[Buffalobiian]

I'll just say Kodaka suffers from Dense-MC-Syndrome along with PTSD from losing his childhood friend, along with long term social isolation due to his appearance.

edit: lack of libido as well.

[KrayZ33]

Kodaka is probably no.1 in the list of dense MCs...
even shirou wasn't that stupid and passive when it came to romantic feelings

I can get along with those "I want your dick so much MC" - "sry, what did you just say?" moments in most animes, but this is getting annoying

[shinta|hikari]

Kodaka was probably a lot less dense in childhood. Yozora was probably a much better person as well. Their separation changed them negatively in terms of social ability. Yozora became extremely distrustful when Taka just disappeared without a word. Both lost their best friend and probably felt that they could no longer find something similar. The time travel thing clearly showed how much Kodaka cared for Sora back then, a feeling which is exponentially reciprocated by Yozora herself.

I am actually rooting for Yozora, just because she probably will not survive not being picked. Sena, like already explicitly shown in the show, is practically superhuman. While she likes Kodaka, she will manage to move on if Yozora gets picked. Heck, she probably wants Kobato more than Kodaka anyway.

Yozora, on the other hand, needs Kodaka. It is not just being a friend. Her feelings are extremely possessive, and is obviously romantic. When Yukimura was revealed to be a girl, Yozora was agitated because it became possible for Yukimura and Kodaka to become a couple. Someone only wanting to monopolize Kodaka's friendship would not care about the gender of her rivals. She would hate them all the same.

She is also far weaker than any of the other girls. She is already breaking down with just the recent revelation. Imagine if Kodaka and Sena actually become a couple. It's going to be School Days all over again.

[Ryllharu]

Kodaka was probably a lot less dense in childhood. Yozora was probably a much better person as well. Their separation changed them negatively in terms of social ability. Yozora became extremely distrustful when Taka just disappeared without a word. Both lost their best friend and probably felt that they could no longer find something similar. The time travel thing clearly showed how much Kodaka cared for Sora back then, a feeling which is exponentially reciprocated by Yozora herself.
Bullshit.

Kodaka was going to tell her that day, but she was the one who never showed up, hiding around the corner because she was terrified to reveal herself as a girl, afraid it would ruin their friendship.

The time travel gag only showed that he cared for her as a friend. Only a friend. He was never aware that she was a girl, because again, she hid that from him. Yozora has severe social anxiety. She is disgustingly possessive with regards to how she thinks friendships should occur.


Yozora, on the other hand, needs Kodaka. It is not just being a friend. Her feelings are extremely possessive, and is obviously romantic. When Yukimura was revealed to be a girl, Yozora was agitated because it became possible for Yukimura and Kodaka to become a couple. Someone only wanting to monopolize Kodaka's friendship would not care about the gender of her rivals. She would hate them all the same.

It isn't romantic. That thought never even occurred to her until very recently, and her angry mutterings over this season and the previous one prove it conclusively. She has always been obsessed with rekindling their Youth Drama style friendship. Every time Rika mentions having sex with Kodaka, Yozora gets very flustered and embarrassed. That is way too much for her. It's only after she finds out about various instances where Sena and Kodaka got closer, has the idea of converting him into a boyfriend made her simply blush and not lash out offended at the concept.

She makes every effort to ensure that Kodaka, or anyone else for that matter, doesn't find her attractive as a girl. She wants Kodaka to view her as the boy he used to think of her as. As seen every time she makes a public appearance in a tracksuit, after she mistook "boyish" style for meaning unisex, the times she shows up in a full-body 1920s bathing suit, etc.

Yukimura being a girl upset her not because of a coupling issue, but because it was a plan that backfired on her. She thought it would be funny to torture an innocent effeminate boy into dressing like a girl to somehow prove "his" manliness. What upset her was that she created the perfect target for maid fetishists, inadvertently making Yukimura more attractive and even more devoted to Kodaka.

Yozora would be fine with merely being Kodaka's friend again. She just has to get past the issue that the other girls are also her friends, you don't have to have just one.

Sena needs someone to keep her grounded and more humble. Kodaka is the ideal person to do that. He's apathetic where she gets obsessive, and he has been able to make her realize her limitations without running off crying (the pool episode).

[vejita613]

Question: Has Kodoka ever really stepped in when Sena is going over board though? I'm sure he has the ability to so and would be successful, but right now it doesn't seem like he wants too. He just sort of sits back and let's her do her thing.

[shinta|hikari]

@Ryll - Yozora may not be fully aware that she is in love with Kodaka, and that is the cause for all of her attempts to look boyish in order to rekindle their old friendship, but everything else she does shows that she likes him romantically. Just the fact that she is possessive and gets jealous is proof of that. Friends don't do that.

Also, Yozora was indeed upset that her plan for Yukimura backfired on her. But why would she be upset at all? If she didn't care about Yukimura's gender and its effect and Kodaka, she would not be upset at all. I just rechecked that scene, and now I'm sure Yozora is pissed because a very powerful (cute, considerate, devoted) rival appeared, one that she never even minded when she thought of her as a guy. Yozora's lines clearly showed this.

[Kraco]

Just the fact that she is possessive and gets jealous is proof of that. Friends don't do that.


Yozora's concept of friendship is two people. She can't fathom that a person could have more friends than one. So, from her point of view if Kodaka gets friendly with someone else, he can't be her friend any longer.

Nevertheless, I also think she has been interested in making Kodaka her boyfriend for a while now. Only she understands a romantic relationship no better than she understands a normal friendship. I reckon the reason she doesn't want to appear feminine and cute is just a part of that: She hasn't got a clue guys are typically attracted to cute/beautiful/sexy girls, and due to her self-imposed social isolation she has become so self-centered and eccentric she's an extremely slow learner. At least Sena has her dad and Stella teaching her what's proper and what's not (even if they have allowed her to develop her severe spoiled princess personality), but it looks like Yozora's parents are either dead or they are lunatics as well.

Yozora wanting to reveal to Kodaka she's a girl already when they were children is a sign she wanted something to change. Back then she just lacked courage. Now she's lacking wits.

[Ryllharu]

@shinta:

I agree with Kraco on the first part, you are seriously underestimating how screwed up Yozora's concept of friendship is, which is why you are confusing it with love.

Yozora should convert it to romantic feelings, but she hasn't yet. The idea embarrasses her too much still. She's starting to get it though, now that Rika and Sena are hammering nails of awareness into Kodaka's wooden head. Rika is probably more of a threat than Sena in that regard, she's his type, but unfortunately for her, Kodaka finds her behavior abhorrent. But he does get embarrassed around Sena, so she's probably made the most progress, and now we know she is open to the idea.

Yukimura didn't care before, but now that Rika explained something to her, it would seem she's gotten very receptive to the idea.

[Buffalobiian]

Yukimura didn't care before, but now that Rika explained something to her, it would seem she's gotten very receptive to the idea.

During Rika's explanation, Yukimura said "Indeed, I do not have something like that".

I filled in the blanks and automatically assumed Rika was saying that a true man would be able to bring Kodaka to orgasm with their penis. No one else thought like this? 0_o

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 10 [28B240A7].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=413364)

[Archangel]

Forced. Fucking. Drama.

Seriously, what the fuck was that?

[vejita613]

Sena having such a commanding presence over Yozora? Yozora getting "bullied" by Rika? Maria and Kobato acting like friends? Plus, Kodoka isn't as dense as he makes himself out to be? This isn't anything like the Hanagai I remember. I wonder what this will all lead to?

[Buffalobiian]

Forced. Fucking. Drama.

Seriously, what the fuck was that?

Forced? Nay, more like "About time something happened in this show!"

Seriously, if nothing happened before this finished, S2 would just go down as "another one of those sequels that went with the appeal of the first series without adding much more to it."

[Marik]

[Mazui] Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT - 11 [CA070084].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=415542)

[Archangel]

Beta as fuck.

[Kraco]

I'll be extremely disappointed if Kodaka doesn't have a really heavy reason for his actions. Something like a former girlfriend dying in his hands, and Kodaka blaming himself at least partially and thus he wouldn't easily trust himself with another girl. But then again, those people are so weird that it's it'll probably turn out to be some vague mental issue requiring psychiatric help to fix, not a school club.

Still, at least the last eps weren't totally stock harem. A lame reset of a last episode wouldn't surprise me, but I hope it won't be like that, against all odds.

[vejita613]

That was really awkward. I'm not going to lie, I can't blame Kodaka. I would want to get out of that room ASAP too.

[Archangel]

That was really awkward. I'm not going to lie, I can't blame Kodaka. I would want to get out of that room ASAP too.
If it's awkward it's because he allowed it to be. We've already been shown that he was only feigning ignorance so whatever comes to bite him in the ass from that point on will be his own fault.

Just... man up for Christ sake. Why is it so hard for Japan to come up with likable male leads?

[Kraco]

If it's awkward it's because he allowed it to be.

Seconded. If it was awkward, it's all Kodaka's fault. You can't be much more insensitive than blatantly and obviously feigning ignorance when someone confesses, and in the presence of others to boot. Yeah, maybe it was the right decision to flee from the room, precisely because he had made such a giant jerk and coward out of himself. Staying there would have only stretched the abnormal atmosphere, although fleeing won't solve anything. But I suppose the last episode will solve everything, one way or another.

[NeoCybercoin]

Guess the guy doesn't want to destroy what he currently has with the rest of the club since he isn't as thick as previously thought. He knows they care about him even like him. Accepting Sena right there would have destroyed his current relationship with the rest. At least that's what he thinks I guess.

[Yukimura]

I think the reveal will be that Kodaka had some sort of past trauma that made him afraid of admitting that he has attachments to other people (has there been any hint of this before?). It felt very out of left field to me but in retrospect I just took it for granted that Kodaka actually wanted to improve his image but was just as dense as the rest of the group as to how. Now I'm thinking he's actually been savvy to the fact that they're all friends for a while but has been taking advantage of the fact that none of the others (except maybe Rika) are in a position to point this out so he can walk the line and avoid whatever commitment demons are plaguing him.

I'm expecting a pretty lame reason like guilt over leaving his childhood friend or something, butI think I'd actually prefer that to some attempt at a deep and thoughtful reason that wasn't hinted at at all up until the last few eps.

[KrayZ33]

he didn't hear her and had something important to do, deal with it guys



but to be honest, thats a situation no one could handle properly

[Kraco]

he didn't hear her and had something important to do, deal with it guys

He should visit a doctor quickly. Losing hearing so young without being a heavy rocker or working with explosives or big machinery without protection might suggest a genetic disorder. He could be totally deaf in a few years.

[Yukimura]

He totally heard her and then ran away from the situation rather than deal with it. The vibe that Kodaka has been putting out the last couple of eps telegraphs that he has a closeness barrier of his own that is sensitive to the direct affection of others. His scenes alone with Rika these last eps have practically screamed that he's not just dense but that he's willfully trying to deny the existence the other chars affections towards him. Rika has, in typical, infuriating, meek Japanese girl fashion, been trying to get him to recognize and acknowledge that he means a lot to her and the rest of the group, but in each case he reacted in a way more hesitant manner and tried to downplay or deny what she was getting at.

Sena's comment pushed him over the edge by smacking him square in the face with another persons unabashed expression of affection for him and look how fast he ran away from the situation.

[Archangel]

I'm not saying you're wrong Yuki, but it feels to me you're over analyzing it and trying to come up with excuses for him.

The way i see it? He likes the status quo, he's already aware that the club are his and each other's friends and that admitting it might screw up whatever strange balance held them together thus far. Same deal with romance, he's unwilling to add any more factors in because of how happy he is with what's he's got right now.

TL;DR: A pussy who's afraid of change and thinks that if he ignores it it'll go away.

[Kraco]

TL;DR: A pussy who's afraid of change and thinks that if he ignores it it'll go away.

A dickless pussy, no less. Who cares about friends (they will soon finish high school anyway and go their separate ways) when he could make a girlfriend out of one of the beauties.

[Archangel]

A dickless pussy, no less. Who cares about friends (they will soon finish high school anyway and go their separate ways) when he could make a girlfriend out of one of the beauties.
You know, that's not even the issue for me. Weather he wants a relationship or not is up to him, if he just wanted to be friends with all of them that would have been fine. What makes him a faggot is how he's refusing to deal with their advances when he's fully aware of them. This is called leading a girl on and it's bulshit.

Sometimes i need to remind myself these are just cartoons...

[Buffalobiian]

A) I thought Rika was recording Kodaka's voice to insert it into the movie. That didn't happen..

B) First time in ages where I actually laughed when Sena got swatted.

C) I don't know what I would have done in Kodaka's shoes. Letting it would be poor manners and would be the thing I'd want to do. I'd probably end up just saying no, since I'm not (and I'm imagining Kodaka isn't either) romantically attracted to Sena.

[Kraco]

C) I don't know what I would have done in Kodaka's shoes. Letting it would be poor manners and would be the thing I'd want to do. I'd probably end up just saying no, since I'm not (and I'm imagining Kodaka isn't either) romantically attracted to Sena.

Obviously you'd have taken her elsewhere, away from the audience to turn her down, if that was your choice. Naturally you could have said no right then and there as well, as it was Sena's choice to confess in front of the others, but if it was to be a rejection, in my opinion it would be more gentlemanly to crush her hopes in a privacy.

I still can't get myself to accept Kodaka would simply want a bunch of normal friends, if even those, yet would have still continued to go to the neighbour club full of nothing but single girls, and even continuously come up with activities for them. Since these two eps have proved he's actually not as dense as tungsten, he has noticed a long time ago what's going on. He would have stopped already. So, I have no idea what's going on inside his head. If it was for her sister's sake, then I might accept it, but her sister is a middle schooler and the club is in high school, so I'll have to reject that. He could have just invited Maria over to their house and be done with it.

[Ryllharu]

Sena's casualness about confessing was a bit of a surprise. She's been very embarrassed about that sort of thing before, blushing and turning away. Not as paralyzed as Yozora is (shaking in fear just from having witnessed that), but definitely not as clear and casually assertive as she was here.

I do wish that Rika was less meek about her own feelings. I kinda figure she thinks that Kodaka likes Yozora and Sena the most, but Rika definitely would have had a clear advantage had she confessed first. She is his self-admitted type, after all. She even would have done it in a way that Kodaka definitely wouldn't be able to lie about hearing it, since she's well aware of his habit.


I'm not saying you're wrong Yuki, but it feels to me you're over analyzing it and trying to come up with excuses for him.

The way i see it? He likes the status quo, he's already aware that the club are his and each other's friends and that admitting it might screw up whatever strange balance held them together thus far. Same deal with romance, he's unwilling to add any more factors in because of how happy he is with what's he's got right now.You're right to a degree, but Yuki's assertions have some evidence to back them up way back in the first season and first and last episodes.

Kodaka's never had any friends, ever, other than Yozora for a month or two at most. His father moved around constantly for work, so they were never in one place for long, and Kodaka's appearance got him ostracized (often physically attacked) wherever he went, getting worse as he got older. Kobato really lucked out by looking more like her mother, as we know now, she's super popular. But she shares that shyness and is only close to Kodaka also because of the constant moves. Again, lucky for her, that shyness only makes her more popular with her classmates, even if she doesn't want it. Kodaka got an even split of the genes, and looks threatening all the time.

So now that Kodaka has finally got friends, he really does enjoy the status quo, and wants to keep it. He knows as well as Rika that they're already all friends, even if Sena and Yozora wouldn't want to admit it. But Kodaka also probably recognizes that both Sena and Yozora really like him. He knows that if he picks someone other than Yozora, that he'll at the very least lose Yozora again. Losing his only friend in a way where he was simply abandoned probably traumatized him deeper than he was willing to admit, the same way that Yozora's fear during that incident got worse and worse, giving her the crippling social anxiety disorder she has today. It also doesn't help that he waited and waited to tell her he was moving away, and when he finally did, it bit him in the ass because she hid around the corner from him, too embarrassed to show him that she was a girl. That decision to finally say something resulting in never seeing his best friend again doubled the effect the event had on him. It doesn't really help that he didn't notice that Sora and Yozora are the same person (but really, who would?), she was too afraid to make up for lost time, instead scheming her way to being near him, and when he finally realized it, she basically told him that the past is the past and they only were friends, they aren't now.

Now he prefers that nothing be said, the closer people get, the harder it is for him to part.

Kodaka escapes situations where he feels he is getting too close to others as a method to avoid the pain he felt when he lost his only friend. He'd rather drift apart slowly than experience that emotionally shocking kind of split again.



tl;dr: Sena surprisingly casual and forward, I wish Rika was less meek, Kodaka likes status quo, but was deeply traumatized by Yozora abandoning him, the issue compounded by her severe social anxiety a decade later.

[Kraco]

If he really was afraid of losing people, he wouldn't get close to people in the first place. However, he has been very active at getting closer to all of them and thus has tried to keep all of them in the club. Oh, well, I guess he's just a greedy bastard in addition to being a coward: he wants it all but only on his own terms.

[KrayZ33]

since they don't consider themselves "friends" he might think that they are indeed not close to each other
and given how fucked up he is, he probably wants Sena as a friend (even though they obviously are all friends by now) and everytime they come up with their desire to do the deed he tries to outmaneuver them, because if he doesn't then he'd simply bypass the friendzone... not to mention that it would leave a stain on everyone else - and I'm not talking about jizz

[Buffalobiian]

Sena's casualness about confessing was a bit of a surprise. She's been very embarrassed about that sort of thing before, blushing and turning away. Not as paralyzed as Yozora is (shaking in fear just from having witnessed that), but definitely not as clear and casually assertive as she was here.

She was thinking out loud. Sena realised afterwards that she confessed, and just went with it.

Were you saying she was unexpected casual about the second part in particular, or the whole thing?

I thoroughly agree with the rest of your post.

[Ryllharu]

She was thinking out loud. Sena realised afterwards that she confessed, and just went with it.

Were you saying she was unexpected casual about the second part in particular, or the whole thing?
Upon further review, she was not thinking out loud. She started the conversation with, 'Kodaka, while I was talking to Papa, he brought that thing up again...' She then proceeded to rattle off all the reasons it was okay for them to just get married as a means of reassuring him that it was no big deal, and ended on confessing her love. She was doing it absentmindedly because she was focused on her game, the same way someone could be intently cooking or knitting, but she wasn't thinking out loud.

She also said that she was going to tell him anyway, but she was surprised that she did it in front of everyone.

[Marik]

S2 - Episode 12 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=417776)

[KrayZ33]

haha, just skipped to the last 20 seconds and didn't even bother to watch anything else of that shit

[shinta|hikari]

But the last 20 seconds were ending credits...

[Kraco]

At least it wasn't a total reset, even if little was resolved.

[Yukimura]

I can certainly support a Rika pairing, and in some ways I think it's better than a Sena considering what we learned of Kodaka in the last few eps. I doubt Sena is capable of being as sensitive to Kodaka's personality as he would need for them to sustain a decent relationship, Rika seems like she could make it work.

That aside, I sincerely hope they don't get any more seasons because if they do I feel like they'd inevitably go on a quest for Yozora as I think she's much better off being left to wander the earth reflecting on her life and choices and pondering how she might change and stop being such a terrible person. On the other hand I don't think Sena got any closure and that is unfortunate, however, knowing her she'll probably bounce back quickly not be much worse off than she was at the beginning of the series.