VB Upgraded

[complich8]

welp, I've finally gone and done it and upgraded vbulletin to the 4.x series.

Totally new styles, etc. We'll be using this to eat the front-page at some point, but for now just the forums.

Big thanks to Kraco for doing the icon theme work, and for the folks in the "new banners" fanart thread for the new banners you see up top. And to all the folks who did test driving on the dev forums, too!

Let us know about any style tweaks or other suggestions to make things better!

[Lucifus]

Wooot! New GotWoot! Thank you kindly Complich.

[Alhuin]

It looks amazing. I especially like that the layout is much wider than it was before. *thumbs up*
Good job...

I'm curious about whether the banners will be updated though... There are several posted in the thread with the updated recommendations concerning advertising and whatnot.

[complich8]

That's a good question, to which I say thee: yea!


(Actually, I just got done doing that... should see them there now)

[Munsu]

Thanks comp, looks really good in my opinion.

[Kraco]

Thanks indeed! I'll get down to fixing those few icons that bypassed my radar and still need changes.

[David75]

I guess I'll need some time to adjust to the new feel. I'm too old to accept a change directly :D

I also understand that fine tuning everything means goes against easy upgrades and maintenance. But I still hope some fine tuning will regarding the theme/icons and everything visual as it's for the moment less 'slick' than before.

Regardless, thanks for the hard work, always easy to criticize when you only get to use things for free without helping.

[Archangel]

Looking good there comp, is there anywhere where we can learn about the new features?

[gos27]

Haven't been on recently, but wow, looks very nice! :)

[Alhuin]

Okay, not sure if it's something on my end, something that is already being looked at, or something that wasn't known about... but I was editing a post just a minute ago, and decided I wanted to "go advanced" (since it appears emoticons aren't in the quick edit box, at least for me), but when I clicked the button, nothing happened. So I figured it post to let you know.

[Marik]

I was editing a post just a minute ago, and decided I wanted to "go advanced" (since it appears emoticons aren't in the quick edit box, at least for me), but when I clicked the button, nothing happened. So I figured it post to let you know.

Ditto. I posted about that in complich8's blog entry.

[Munsu]

We discovered it this morning, don't know yet why it's happening.

[complich8]

Quickreply -> go advanced is fixed.

The details: Vbulletin 4.1.1 introduced a "PATHS" variable defined in the headinclude template and uses it in vb_quick_edit.js. The theme was built and tested in 4.0.3 and 4.1.0PL2, and didn't define that variable, so when you clicked go advanced, it'd barf on the undefined var and exit. Adding it in seems to have fixed it.

[enkoujin]

I apologize for being late with this suggestion.

I find that having the "Home" link underneathe the banner is a bit redundant since the main website has been abandoned and has been replaced by "Gotwoot Fansubs".

Isn't it better if the "Home" link is removed? I don't see any other purpose for it anymore other than a tribute to the previous layouts.

[Buffalobiian]

The home link serves as the only existing link between the forums and the main page though. If we remove it, the only other way to get back is to type www.gotwoot.net (http://www.gotwoot.net) into your address bar.

It is rather useless in that no one really visits that page anymore (since there's no real reason to), but to get rid of it means to make the forums a one-way trip.

I would vote to keep it for site integrity alone.

[dragonrage]

Looks nice, kind of miss the old one but don't miss the one before that. Great job xen monk.

[dragonrage]

sorry for the double......

Is it me or has the Albums vanished, what happened to them?

edit: nevermind false alarm, i didn't realize that there is an option to set your albums to private now. I guess all the old ones are gone, casualties of the upgrade or maybe I just haven't seen them or they are all set to private.

p.s. Is there a size limit? If anyone ever reads this and you know please answer.

[Buffalobiian]

Ever since the upgrade that brought with it the "new" looking textbox, I've noticed a few things:

1) When I'm trying to post from my mobile device (Nokia N97, Opera Mobile browser) the text input is inconsistent. Sometimes I can't click onto the box to start typing, and at times it will also remove my paragraph formatting and put my entire post into one big paragraph.

2) The second thing I've encountered when I'm browsing this using FF6 and W7: When I make a release post with a link for an episode, then go back after I've watched the episode myself and start editing with comments below it, the entire contents of the post will be hyperlinked with the torrent link. When I go to highlight the relevant sections and unlink them using the button in the textbox, the entire post becomes unlinked, and I have to manually relink the episode title with the corresponding release link.

[Kraco]

I presume you are using the wysiwyg mode when you encounter the link problem? Maybe something there is broken. I never use it, so personally I haven't noticed. When you next time see it, maybe you could switch to the plain tagged mode and see how it looks like (the tags, that is).

I use Opera Mini or Nokia's own browser on my cellphone to browse Gotwoot, but I have probably only made so simple posts that I wouldn't see your mobile troubles.

[Marik]

I get the link problem all the time. It started happening a month or so ago when VB was upgraded again. I usually have to click the button on the far left (black A / blue underlined A one) to fix it. Switch Editor to Source Mode is what it's called.

[Archangel]

Ever since the upgrade that brought with it the "new" looking textbox, I've noticed a few things:

1) When I'm trying to post from my mobile device (Nokia N97, Opera Mobile browser) the text input is inconsistent. Sometimes I can't click onto the box to start typing, and at times it will also remove my paragraph formatting and put my entire post into one big paragraph.

2) The second thing I've encountered when I'm browsing this using FF6 and W7: When I make a release post with a link for an episode, then go back after I've watched the episode myself and start editing with comments below it, the entire contents of the post will be hyperlinked with the torrent link. When I go to highlight the relevant sections and unlink them using the button in the textbox, the entire post becomes unlinked, and I have to manually relink the episode title with the corresponding release link.

I use my nokia 5800 and firefox to browse the forum all the time and i never noticed any of this

[dragonrage]

I have problems, posting when using the Iphone. It doesn't separate the paragraphs it just adds it to the forum as one big mess. Other than that no problems posting or browsing.

[Kraco]

Chapter 1: Well, then, I suppose I have to test Opera Mini on my Nokia C6 to add credibility to the statistics.

Chapter 2: It's now or never. Never or now.

Edit: Seemed to work perfectly. Is this another wysiwyg mode error or what?

[enkoujin]

I also noticed that [flash] videos tend to overlap the reputation button.

Take this for example, if you try to rep Lucifus, you just cannot due to XanBcoo's video embedding.

[Archangel]

Oh and by the way, that restore saved content feature? Thank you!

[complich8]

I wasn't exactly psyched about CKEditor showing up to replace the old reliable wysiwyg with that update. I was mainly concerned about a critical from-remote security issue that, if exploited, could leak all your email addresses and (salted, hashed) password info and whatnot, and apparently it's just the way that vbulletin decided to go with the editor, but ... not exactly the happiest thing to discover about the upgrade.

I'm going to be going from 4.1.4 to 4.1.5pl1 in the next few days, so we can check back on the status of those issues after that. Some of the CKEditor stuff might be resolved in the latest release, others might not. I know a couple bugs with it are fixed, especially pertaining to editing posts. So hopefully that gets better after the next patch.

I suspect the flash overlapping thing is a css issue that lives in our customizations to the template. I'll probably have to track down which template is floating on top of something that should be floating inside of it instead, or something like that. If you can point me at a good example thread, I'll see what I can do to track it down, but I'm slightly burned from an increasingly insane time at work, and am disinclined to go hunting for an example just now.

[complich8]

Rolled out another update. Tweaks? Bugs? Other weirdness? Let me know!

[Alhuin]

Going to the default forums.gotwoot.net (which is what my bookmark is set to) shows a "You do not have permission to access this page" error. I just clicked 'home' and it seems to be working fine elsewhere, but just thought I'd mention it.

Oh, reputation bars aren't displaying under usernames as well.

[complich8]

Ahh yes, the old "index.php defaults to cms instead of forums" issue. That should be better now.

Now where'd that rep bar setting get to ....

** Update **
turns out somewhere in there they changed functions_reputation.php to do stuff slightly differently, making me have to re-merge my old rep-nerf mod into the new code instead of using the old file directly. Blaargh! Should be there now too...

[Buffalobiian]

Ah. Now the rep bar looks even more like a (ribbed) e-penis. :p

[Archangel]

Ah. Now the rep bar looks even more like a (ribbed) e-penis. :p
....wat?

[Alhuin]

Comp, I was doing some research on forum hosting for a friend, and decided to check out vBulletin's offers. In doing so, I noticed that vBulletin 5 is out. I'm curious, will there be an update in our future? I know next to nothing about maintaining a forum, and personally, I think the current version is just fine... but new is also exciting sometimes, no? Anyways, I figured I'd ask.

[complich8]

I looked at the features when vb5 came out. Nothing that I thought was interesting, seemed like they were really pushing toward the CMS and third-party social features to the detriment of normal forumgoer experience.

I've got no plans to push any upgrades other than security fixes, unless some really compelling reason showed up. And given vb5's reported performance characteristics, definitely not before we're living on some sort of better hardware... you know we've been on the same box since 2007?

[Archangel]

I think the forums are fine as is, remember all the trouble to port the old theme to the new one last time?