Freezing

[Marik]

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Alternative Titles:
프리징 (Korean)
フリージング (Japanese)

Type: TV
Episodes: 12
Source: Based on the manwha by Lim Dal-Young and Kim Kwang-Hyun
Studio: A.C.G.T.
Genres: Action, Drama, Romance, Science Fiction, School Life, Seinen
Themes: Aliens, Power Suits, Super Power, Ecchi

Synopsis: Set in a slightly futuristic world where Earth has been invaded and is at war with aliens from another dimension called the Nova, the story follows the adventures of a Japanese boy named Kazuya Aoi who enrolls for training at a special school for genetically modified girls called Pandoras who battle the aliens, and their male partners, called Limiters, who use a special power called "freezing" to limit their opponent's mobility.

The protagonist makes the acquaintance of an unusual older girl named Bridgette L. Satellizer who appears to be the most powerful Pandora in her class, but has not yet chosen a male partner to be her Limiter. In spite of the warnings of all his friends, he decides to be her Limiter.

Resources: ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=11823) | AniDB (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=7900) | MyAnimeList (http://myanimelist.net/anime/9367/Freezing) | Official (http://freezing.tv)

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WhyNot - Freezing - 01 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=184845) - DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/zKuC7kn)

Whine-Subs - Freezing - 01v2 - 960x720 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=185325)

The show is broadcast in 4:3. Only the OP/ED are 16:9.

[Penner]

Panties!

Yeah.. ill check this out.

[Munsu]

Big fan of Im Dal-Young, though I hope the 12 episode total is just speculation and that it's actually longer. Else I won't even bother. Never watched his Kurokami (Black God) anime adaptation, but from what I saw they made quite a few changes that weren't to my taste, hence I didn't bother with the anime. Hopefully this adaptation is better.

[RyougaZell]

4:3 :( ? In this day?

Dang...

[Kraco]

Kazuya Aoi has an annoyingly wussy sounding voice actor and I'm afraid it will also show in the character's behavior. Actually it already has with how he jumped to hug the girl he thought was his sister, like some bloody four years old kid separated from his mommy forgotting everything around him. I already hope he loses a hand at minimum in the next episode to teach him a lesson...

At least the action is very ruthless. Even if it makes little sense to have such battles on the roof a public building...

[Ryllharu]

I think that's exactly the way Kazuya is meant to come off. He is a little wuss.

The brutality of the "carnival" was something else. Especially after they showed the medical ward, and their goal of not having a fatality this year. Quite a cold way to rank the academy talent. Satellizer was slashing a lot of the other Pandoras across the throat.

I can't imagine that engenders a very good level of teamwork when a Nova shows up. You have a big crew of Pandoras who fight each other and maybe even hate each other. Maybe that's why it isn't so bad that they lose so many fighting every Nova because the survivors don't feel so bad.

On a lighter note, I like that Satellizer wears glasses in her off time. It singlehandedly changes the way she comes off after seeing her slashing her classmates with such brutality. I can't explain why. Maybe they make it look like her guard is down? Like a candid photo or something.

Also, the shot of Shiffon in the ED (the student council president with the permanently closed eyes) has her shadow sporting a really creepy smile. I love her kind of character.

[Marik]

The brutality of the "carnival" was something else.

It was awesome. Girls were losing arms, legs, getting slashed in the throat, and one poor girl even got slashed right down the middle. The whole advanced regeneration kind of cheapens the awesomeness though, since they can regenerate limbs and such with no visible damage. I'm looking forward to seeing how these girls interact with each other in the future. Surely some will harbor bad feelings after being owned so thoroughly.

This is definitely my favorite of the three new shows I've watched. The only things that bothered me were, Ganessa's cheap victory at the end and the show being aired in 4:3. :(

I'm kind of interested in seeing how the other networks handle the broadcasting of this series. The amount of censoring should be epic. /me waits for some comparison shots.


Panties!

...and Boobs!

[animus]

4:3 is nasty.

The manhwa started off a bit differently, but hopefully they don't fail with this manhwa adaptation like they did with Kurokami.

And like I said in the Legend of Maian thread, Koreans have such a huge fetish for younger male, older female pairings. The whole Pandora + Limiter combo is an older female and a younger male.

[Kraco]

The whole Pandora + Limiter combo is an older female and a younger male.

I'm pretty sure nobody failed to notice that after the student council president emphasized it so gleefully... But yeah, I have certainly noticed the same thing about Korean fiction. Not that I'd mind. I find it more interesting in anime/manga/manhwa than a younger female and an older male.

[Dark Dragon]

I really like what they're doing with this series.

This episode got a nice chunk of back story out of the way as oppose to the manhwa which slowly reveal it over several volumes. They also managed to fit in a bunch of explanations, so the rest of the series can just focus on the story. This show is only going to have 13 episodes so it's very encouraging that they went with this method and got all this out of the way, so they won't have to cut out bit and pieces later due to time constraints.

If i remember correctly, this episode feature maybe 3 pages from the first chapter and that all took place at the end of the episode. They can probably just continue the story normally from there without affecting anything.

[Buffalobiian]

At least the action is very ruthless. Even if it makes little sense to have such battles on the roof a public building.that people can talk with cut throats.

That stood out more for me, but even stranger that given the efficiency that the battle still took till the morning.



Panties!
...and Boobs!

And Satellizer!!

She's pretty much the only thing I like about Freezing (while everything else is fairly neutral), but since she's 90% of this show anyway, that's all that matters.

[RyougaZell]

The series seems good and all... but it bothers me that they can heal cut throats even more than regenerating limbs.

[Munsu]

Are the 1280x720 raws that are supposedly uncensored also suffer from the 4:3 shit?

[Marik]

Are the 1280x720 raws that are supposedly uncensored also suffer from the 4:3 shit?

Yes. Only the OP and ED are in 16:9. The rest of the show is 4:3 with black bars on the side.

[Penner]

Why the hell did they make the op/ed 16:9 but not the actual show... its not a dealbreaker but it will always be in the back of my mind when i watch it, just nagging at me... i mean it's 2011 and they use 4:3.. seriously >_>

[David75]

Why the hell did they make the op/ed 16:9 but not the actual show... its not a dealbreaker but it will always be in the back of my mind when i watch it, just nagging at me... i mean it's 2011 and they use 4:3.. seriously >_>

It's free, so they spoil the experience to entice you to buy the DVDs/BRs.

[Ryllharu]

It's free, so they spoil the experience to entice you to buy the DVDs/BRs.These were my thoughts exactly.

It's not a bad deal if you think about it. Broadcast is uncensored and in HD (or pseudo-HD) despite the 4:3. Assuming they're not leaving anything out, I'm more than happy to watch it this way and archive bluray rips when they come out.

Much better than what they did with Qwaser (either censored or eyecancer quality).

[Buffalobiian]

I'm fine with archiving this. It's unlikely I'll watch it again anyway.

I really want to know if Satellizer goes soft when she puts her glasses on. I really hope it's not just fanservice for the OP/ED.

[Marik]

I love AT-X...

[Kraco]

Yeah, I don't need to think twice to choose 4:3 over that. Even if cropped 4:3 makes you lose 25% of the originally intended, this 16:9 makes you lose 75%, it seems...

[David75]

So they start by blacking the frames, so heavily they could just broadcast the audio alone.
Then they'll beeep the "too hard" audio parts.

In the end, you'll get a succession of beeps and no images :D
I can't wait for the progress the future holds :cool:

Other than that, I have mixed feelings with that first ep. I can't say I enjoyed it and the story isn't appealing to me.

[Marik]

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Hiryuu - Freezing - 02 - Uncensored - 720p: Torrent (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=186508) | MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X3CCS5WU)

Whine-Subs - Freezing - 02 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=186399)

[David75]

That show is a farce, isn't it?

[Buffalobiian]

That show is a farce, isn't it?

What do you mean? (Well yeah, absolutely nothing happened this episode that was worth mentioning).

The sub and video quality is quite bad though. Regardless, a sub is a sub, no matter what I think of it.

[Ryllharu]

I can't figure out if Kazuya isn't a wuss, or is just really naive and stupid.

Sattelizer has major fetish appeal though. Blond, curvy, glasses, and long skirt (since she is a transfer from East Genetics). The glasses and skirt are what do it for me in this instance, and maybe her apparent love for hamburgers (ref ED). Ganessa isn't bad either...if she wasn't so much of a bitch.

[David75]

What do you mean? (Well yeah, absolutely nothing happened this episode that was worth mentioning).

The sub and video quality is quite bad though. Regardless, a sub is a sub, no matter what I think of it.

Well, other than ecchi+fanservice, nothing worth watching happens in the show. So why bother? Is what I keep asking myself.
If I need ecchi (or more) and fanservice, there are lots of funny shows, pictures and material anywhere on the internet.

I wonder what you guys think about it, is it really worth it? Was the source story good enough to overlook those 2 eps?

[Ryllharu]

I wonder what you guys think about it, is it really worth it? Was the source story good enough to overlook those 2 eps?Depends on how far the story goes in only 13 episodes. The manga was a bit slow paced, but there was a large focus on bullying and the allure of corruption that comes with power, rather than the extra-dimensional invasion. That's what made the series stand out for me.

We saw the beginning of that with Ganessa here, and we'll see a lot more of it from what they showed in the preview.

It was a huge deal for the school that Sattelizer lost. It was on the school news the same morning. She went from "untouchable" to a target in no time at all.

[Buffalobiian]

I haven't touched the source material, and so far Satellizer's the only thing holding this show together, Kazuya almost tipping the balance the other way, and everybody else is just meh.


I agree that this episode fell hard even compared to the first one.


I can't figure out if Kazuya isn't a wuss, or is just really naive and stupid.

I'll go with naive and stupid. He stood up for Satellizer, and wasn't afraid of the stories about her dicing up people who've touched her (though that's probably just his Sis-con taking effect).

[Kraco]

Yes, nothing much indeed happened in this episode, due to the somewhat meaningless fight eating most of it. Although remembering hazing should make up much of the story, I suppose the bout did have some relevance, to visibly establish that shady tradition in the show.

But this is really only barely holding together, that much I readily agree with Bill. I suppose I'll keep watching but I find it sad I expect less from this than the recycling bin Infinite Stratos...

[Marik]

WhyNot - Freezing - 03 Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=188005) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/8pR9Z8R)

Whine-Subs_Freezing_-_03 - 960x720 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=188002)

Funimation to Simulcast Freezing Science-Fiction Anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-21/funimation-to-simulcast-freezing-sci-fi-anime)

[Buffalobiian]

Is this show on a counterbalance with Infinite Stratos or something? One bombs out this week and this rebounds.

Anyway, whatever shitty pacing last week's episode experienced, this one more than made up for it. The humiliation was gripping, and I could only sit there and urge Aoi to hurry the hell up and cast his freezing already. All that time I felt that the possibility of him not being able to due to his inexperience was very real though, which made the tension all the better.

lol at "These breasts are such a waste on the Untouchable Queen". More like "These breasts are such a waste on censored TV." :P

I was hoping Kazuya would snap, walk over there and smash up those cellphones, but I guess his performing freezing fulfils my expectation of him enough already.


Anyway, get on with this "initiation" already. :p

PS: I always thought Sattelizer's glasses were rimless at the top. Too bad it looks more like just an animation thing. Rimless glasses are more.. unique - though I can't say I've ever seen anybody with top-rimless frames who was (or looked) remotely young.

[Ryllharu]

Aww...Satellizer didn't get to eat her hamburgers.

Well, I guess Kazuya isn't a total wuss. He's got protagonist powers, but even if he didn't, he still has the right idea. Pandora's shouldn't be fighting each other the way the slut did with Satellizer. They have a more important calling than beating each other up for some arbitrary (though militant) pecking order. While Satellizer isn't completely in the right to disrespect her military superiors like that, she doesn't deserve the treatment she gets. Those in power should act responsibly instead of getting haughty.

So the stigmata are an easy way to guess overall power ranking or potential. Kazuya's sister is a benchmark for power, since she could handle 20 with relative ease. If the skank had only two, she was pretty weak. No wonder she compensated with having three linked Limiters...or like the other girl said, maybe it doesn't matter anyway. Ganessa had four I think. Satellizer has six. That should put her on a fair ranking with the average third year then. It could be a match up of her raw power versus their techniques. Though she did know Accel Turn, which she wasn't supposed to. Curious.

So the biggest question is why Kazuya can use freezing without being paired. Perhaps the stigma material in his body resonates with all the stigma in the pandoras?

Edit @ Bill: Kazuya isn't supposed to have freezing without a contract at all. It was a surprise to everyone (except maybe him). His is also very strong, it wiped out the freezing the other three limiters had set. The fact he can do it at all is strange enough, that it is so strong is even more unusual.

[Kraco]

The humiliation was gripping, and I could only sit there and urge Aoi to hurry the hell up and cast his freezing already.

Exactly! But we had already seen him do freezing when he caused Satellizer to lose, didn't we? I guess people (like teacher) just didn't pay too much attention to it back then.

Is the stigma material borrowed from the monsters they are fighting? Genetically adapted to match humans. If so, having high amounts could indeed be risky, like carrying a bomb that could detonate at any time.

[Buffalobiian]

Exactly! But we had already seen him do freezing when he caused Satellizer to lose, didn't we? I guess people (like teacher) just didn't pay too much attention to it back then.

They were in physical contact that time, and I was really sure that it was a condition that had to be met when I was watching this episode for the unpaired Freezing. It was also why I kinda freaked out when they failed to touch finger tips that time, and really wondered if it'd never happen.

[Marik]

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[David75]

Well, setting and scenario are bad. Fights are nice though. Ingrid has a better breast size, I like them better. I do not see much to discuss other than that :D

[Buffalobiian]

Well, setting and scenario are bad. Fights are nice though. Ingrid has a better breast size, I like them better. I do not see much to discuss other than that :D

Ingrid's motivation wasn't exactly logical though. Sure, she may want to enforce military ranks, but you've got to notice a bad apple when you see one. Commanders ripping off their troops are just as bad as troops abandoning a good commander. If a Third Year starts a fight, you're by no means obliged to let them finish it. Ah well, for development's sake I'll accept this little flaw.

Now I really want to see that diary (not really, but if I try to, Sattelizer would go so far as to show us something else instead :p )

Despite Satellizer's use of glasses as her on/off switch for seriousness, it's wide-eyed vs stare cute eyes vs I'll-kill-you eyes that really does the trick.

[Kraco]

I hope we will get the baptism even if the dude doesn't even need it to perform freezing. Not only it could make a nice scene but unless it's simply some threshold thing, it should make Kazuya even stronger. It's also annoying there's nothing solid or formal between them, just an intention to help the other. That leaves things ambiguous and, furthermore, other Pandoras could come hunting for him due to his high level of power.

No matter how strong Satellizer's hesitation is (even if it's based on a raping incident or whatever those flashbacks refer to), surely she must soon realise she can't go on without a limiter forever. So, why not get the strongest one in that case? Too much tsun for her own good.

[Idealistic]

Looks like we will..... from the previews she tells Aoi to come to her room. MmmmMmm.

[Marik]

Get the v2 (http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php/19132-Freezing?p=483189&viewfull=1#post483189)

[Penner]

The difference in filesize on the WhyNot releases is pretty big.. what gives?

[Kraco]

Kazuya never reaching Satellizer's room was given the moment the other two described what kind of (awesome) meeting it normally is. Although I'd be surprised if Satellizer actually had something like that in mind and not something else like... eating ice cream or watching a movie. But we will never know, I suppose.

I hope the new tribal girl won't get too much between Kazuya and Satellizer because I'd be far more interested in seeing how things can develop between those two than any stock triangles. But perhaps it will already be solved in the next or the one after that since they seem to take the easy way of finding out who gets the dude. A nice reversal of the usual state of affairs in nature to have two females fight violently over a male...

[Buffalobiian]

Although I'd be surprised if Satellizer actually had something like that in mind and not something else like... eating ice cream hamburgers or watching a hamburger movie

Surely that's what you meant Kraco.

I can't see Tibet girl as a serious contestant for Kazuya, though she's definitely the persistent type who I'll expect to hang around until she either finds a Limiter of her own, or Kazuya performs the proper Baptism (unlikely to happen in the near future, I see this as the final powerup move). I definitely like her though. A genki ditz is so welcome in a complex full of scheming vixens. (in comparison, she's like an unlearned lion).

And as much as I like Satellizer, I have to admit that blond third year with wavy hair has better proportions. One can only imagine what is to come with ones so big they need external support.

It also took me till a few days ago to figure out those "stats" numbers are height and weight. I kept thinking they were the three sizes, and was left wondering:

1: Where's the third one?
2: Satellizer's bust is 168.. what on earth?

[Marik]

The difference in filesize on the WhyNot releases is pretty big.. what gives?

.ts was used instead of one of those 200meg raws.

Rana's introduction was very different in the manwha. I didn't like the way they did it in the anime.

[NeoCybercoin]

Hmmmm more Satellizer goodness.

[Kraco]

Surely that's what you meant Kraco.

I was just giving her the benefit of doubt: That she wouldn't choose hamburgers even for an intimate late night meeting.

I just came to think that while Rana directly saved Kazuya's neck, she actually also saved the lives of those three bully girls. I've no doubt Satellizer would have killed them for good if they had paralyzed Kazuya.

[David75]

I changed my view on that anime.
Loads of violence, physical/psychological, loads of fanservice and slutty bodies. Everything I should hate, and yet I'm starting to like it.
I guess that sometimes, lust is stronger than reason :D

[Ryllharu]

Rana and Satellizer are like opposites in their normal modes (one is very cheerful and outgoing while the other is very shy and closed off), but they really are very similar in a number of ways. They are both quite cold and fairly ruthless once they get irritated. Rana will not stand for injustice, and Satellizer does not stand for being pushed around. They also both have 6 stigmata, so they should be on an equal level of power. Truthfully, I like the triangle conflict. Satellizer will be threatened and grow a greater desire to keep the one Limiter she feels she can finally trust. Rana clearly resonated with Kazuya's power, so she will be equally keen on establishing territory.

It seems that Atia (silver hair in rolls), Elizabeth (wavy blonde), and the other two schemers are all too eager to pit one outcast (or likely soon to be in Rana's case) transfer student against another.

But that doesn't mean the third years are entirely wrong. Genetics is a military academy, and Ingrid last episode was correct even though she was misguided about the why. An order is established through the carnivals, and it should be maintained. Perhaps it isn't the best approach because many of the girls end up hating each other, but gross insubordination shouldn't be tolerated. Certainly various third-years are abusing their power, but the three girls here would have been forced to obey either Satellizer or Ganessa had either of them showed up. Rana will likely be a second-year given her combat aptitude, but she'll still be on the bottom having missed the carnival. She could see a fair amount of abuse coming her way shortly.

[Kraco]

There isn't systematic abuse in any decent, modern military, though. It's present in the shady militaries and militias of the third world and such. Elsewhere things go by the book. Of course individuals in a position of power will always misuse it, occasionally and to a degree, but this show has very much made it look like it's very commonplace and expectable in that school. That doesn't generate a more powerful military force but a fragmented force of potentially deranged individuals incapable of coordinated action or higher military goals (goals not directly benefitting their own standing). But perhaps that's all they need to beat the Novas. Because it's true it could generate really strong individuals, even if it's at the cost of those who were abused to uselessness.

Of course it's also possible the abuse was established there on purpose to early weed out any weak-willed individuals. That would work in conjunction with generating strong individuals not possessing military skills but lone warrior skills.

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 05v2 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=192102) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/HKs93qF)

New encode to fix a problem that people had with the aspect ratio.


If you are having problems with the AR, then you can either just override the AR to 4:3 in your media player or download the v2 here. No patch because it is a new encode. We also fixed the naming mistake and a few minor errors in the script and encode. The naming mistake was Hiiargi –> Hiiragi. We typoed it when fixing the names… By we I mean EpicNaruto.

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing 06 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=193436) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/wKavUZx)

[Buffalobiian]

I take my words back. Rana's just as annoying as the others. The fact that she acts all happy normally until her darker feelings kick in makes it more so than the other girls I think.

I'm really starting to wonder if the Japanese really don't lock their doors or something.

[David75]

I'm really starting to wonder if the Japanese really don't lock their doors or something.

Well, always using sliding door, when using western style door they do not know how to lock them... and do not want to ask how to operate them for fear of being considered retards :D Yeah, I know, any ressemblance to stereotypes is fortitious :D

It really gets repetitive as all we get is first love moments-plotting-fanservice-fight-fanservice-fanservice rinse and repeat.
Oh, I forgot some pieces of backstory in beetween so that we do not get to think this is all just for fanservice and fights.

But I like it like it.

Not much to discuss about the ep, due to the very nature of the show and how it works.

Moar fights maybe? Moar power-ups?

[NeoCybercoin]

Not that I don't mind the way things are going right now but when the hell are we going to see some actually Pandora fighting Nova?

[Ryllharu]

I take my words back. Rana's just as annoying as the others. The fact that she acts all happy normally until her darker feelings kick in makes it more so than the other girls I think.I disagree. I think Rana is fairly simple-minded and honest actually. She's not really like the third years we've seen, calculating, manipulative, and cruel. Right from the start she's been openly challenging Satella, trying to get what she wants. Rana didn't get a chance to get close to him at the hospital, so she went to get friendly with him the first chance she had.

It was presented to her in the way that Satella was just using Kazuya selfishly. She refuses to perform the baptism with any Limiter, so she is monopolizing Kazuya's special ability for her own selfish desires. Rana's stigma resonate with him, so she knows he is the one she was "meant to be with." The pandora who is currently with him doesn't want him enough to actually commit and claim him, so Rana will take him since Satellizer appears to not want him as much as she [Rana] does.

She was honest about how she was going to get him too. No ambushing Satella as she came out of the shower, a fair fight. Challenge her to a match, but offer her chances to admit defeat. Rana didn't continue to pound Satella after her Burning Fang attack. That might be the first of that we've ever seen.


Not that I don't mind the way things are going right now but when the hell are we going to see some actually Pandora fighting Nova?
Probably never. :/

I still think it is a fundamental flaw that they allow so much infighting when they should have the Pandoras learn to collaborate and work together. Maybe then fewer of them would die each time a Nova shows up.

[Kraco]

I still think it is a fundamental flaw that they allow so much infighting when they should have the Pandoras learn to collaborate and work together. Maybe then fewer of them would die each time a Nova shows up.

I think it's pretty clear by now the military doctrine they are following is very strong individuals and no cooperation. Who knows, if we tried to find an explanation for that, maybe the early Novas taught them it's just one individual who makes the difference - and possibly always perishes in the process. All the more military like approaches of defeating Novas by larger, more carefully operating units must have failed. In any case, as long as the Novas are scarce enough, it doesn't matter if half of the cadets get killed or incapacitated before graduation and the actual Nova fights are suicide missions.

What comes to Rana, I fully agree with Ryll: She was just very straight-forward and naive, having no experience of duplicitous manipulators and was thus driven beside herself by all the wicked lies and half-truths. That "darker side" was very expectable after her normal overly glad behavior.

I'm happy Kazuya told so explicitely what (whom) he wants. Such a relief after watching an IS episode...

[David75]

That anime is not silly enough to tell us that novas are Pandoras that lost control... or Pandoras that evolved with no limiter, or lost their limiter and had an energy boost or something like that...

Suicide mission? and very self centered indivudals. Something's not right here.
It's true that we know of two pandoras who died eliminating a nova. But we do not have the full picture yet.
Moreover, those 2 pandoras were protecting their comrades, which does not fit. But maybe it's to tell us they were in fact not efficient enough, precisely because they died protecting others... but in the end, they are warriors made to protect the population.

Also, they seem to work in groups of 3 or 4, they know friendship, even the bullying ones. Or so they seem.
It's just they are quite violent and fight for any reason.
It might be an after effect of their transformation and growing power.

[Ryllharu]

That anime is not silly enough to tell us that novas are Pandoras that lost control... or Pandoras that evolved with no limiter, or lost their limiter and had an energy boost or something like that...
...
It's just they are quite violent and fight for any reason.
It might be an after effect of their transformation and growing power.
From my understanding, Novas are extra-dimensional beings. Period. They showed up first, and Pandoras were created later. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if the stigma embedded in Pandoras backs are the remnants of a Nova core. That still doesn't explain how Limiters are able to copy the Freezing effect, but since Kazuya is the only person who can do so without baptism, the normal Limiters may also utilize a Pandora's stigma through that joining.

I like to think their violent tendencies have more to do with the corruption caused by that gain in power rather than some physiological explanation.

[NeoCybercoin]

The manga actually explains a lot more than the anime does. Go read it and you will get answers...well..some of em anyway.

[Kraco]

Suicide mission? and very self centered indivudals. Something's not right here.

Since they are always jumping at any chance to be violent, I wouldn't put it past them. They likely would think that where others have died, they will survive...


Also, they seem to work in groups of 3 or 4, they know friendship, even the bullying ones. Or so they seem.
It's just they are quite violent and fight for any reason.

We know at least the weaker ones know true friendship. But are they even alive or capable of defeating the Novas after graduation? The stronger ones, based on what we have seen, seem more like bosses surrounded by sycophants or temporary allies brought together by a common, transient goal (like eliminating somebody who could pose a threat in the future). Unlike many shounen shows would have you believe, becoming evil doesn't make you a friend of another evil person. Of course we have also non-evil individuals who are simply otherwise troubled, self-absorbed - and violent.

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 07 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=194927) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/kG5g7SQ)

[Buffalobiian]

The fights are entertaining, but their power rises are getting a bit too convenient. Satella was puffing after 2 or so Accel Turns in her fight against Miyobi, but here she performed triple Accels before passing out (via the Holy Gate - though I'm wondering if that's just Rana's terminology for Pandora Mode).

That Louis kid.. it's a wonder he hasn't already raped Satella. How does one be that horny without going over the brim?

For anyone who's read the the manhwa, was there any missing info from Satella's backstory? The whole "introducing her to the main family" thing didn't really make sense in that she was allowed to do as she wanted when her mum died. To get into a good school? Unless tuition was fully paid for prior or something, it wouldn't have worked out.

(edit: okay.. maybe it had to do with honouring her old man's will or whatever, but why "do as you want" after the mother's dead? Why not before?)

And that's one failure of a mother, even if you take her motives into account. She didn't even try to understand what Satella was going through, and just made excuses to make her "bear with it".

[Kraco]

Satellizer's childhood turned out to have been quite shitty. I can now understand why she has kept herself untouchable, with the utterly evil half-brother molesting her for years. I disliked Rana's appearance earlier but perhaps her threat will in fact be essential to push Satellizer past her traumas. Because otherwise she might remain content with Kazuya's uncontracted powers forever.

Otherwise this episode was quite a powerup party. But since there's apparently such a big gap between years normally, they all need powerups quite regularly in any case. This was as good a time as any other.

Edit: She was a weak human and a weak mother. I'd guess she had suffered quite a lot outside of the family, living with the bastard kid and whatever terminal sickness she had. Maybe she had struggled to even earn enough for food. Her selfish act was to stay with the main family during her last years, popping those pills. She would have likely died outside much sooner, and didn't have the guts for it, despite staying meaning constant torture for Satellizer.

[Ryllharu]

The fights are entertaining, but their power rises are getting a bit too convenient. Satella was puffing after 2 or so Accel Turns in her fight against Miyobi, but here she performed triple Accels before passing out (via the Holy Gate - though I'm wondering if that's just Rana's terminology for Pandora Mode).

You can't forget that their power is based on a number of factors, but even then those are subject to a huge degree of variation. Most Pandora seem to have around two to four stigma, where Satella and Rana both have six. That would lead you to believe that they have a higher potential, but then we have Shiffon. She has only four, yet she is a monster beyond classification. Atia was staggered by the shockwave of Shiffon striking (or moving alone) Arnett. It was like a small bomb went off. I would say the scale is probably more exponential than linear. Elizabeth (always at the pool) is probably a magnitude stronger than Arnett, but Shiffon is something else entirely.

I'm not sure that the Light Hawk Wings Holy Gates are the same thing as Pandora mode. They seem to emanate from the stigma themselves. In the manga Pandora mode is actually more like a powersuit, the Holy Gate effect is different.

[Marik]

[Shin-S] Freezing OP & ED Single - COLOR [MARiA & Kobayashi Aika].zip (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=195762) | MU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCT9IEOV)

[Nipponsei] Freezing OP ED Single - COLOR [MARiA & Kobayashi Aika].zip (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BNipponsei%5D%20Freezing%20OP%20ED%20Single%20-%20COLOR%20%5BMARiA%20%26%20Kobayashi%20Aika%5D.zi p.torrent)

Edit: Full Single out now.

1. COLOR
2. Kimi wo Mamoritai
3. Main Theme Sentou-I
4. Sub Theme Sentou-II
5. COLOR (Original Karaoke)
6. Kimi wo Mamoritai (Original Karaoke)

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 08 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=196522) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/DrJzAyA)

[NeoCybercoin]

Nice to see something else than a beach episode for fanservice.
The ending was good to see though. Kazuya getting control of his powers and creating such a big Freezing field. Pretty damn impressive. Also finally some Nova action in the next episode!

[Marik]

Hrmm, last week's preview with Satella wearing a dress made me think this episode would be the date chapter from the manga. I'm glad they decided to skip that and come up with an original episode that was full of fanservice. I liked Attia's Queen's costume idea. It's too bad that her plan got foiled by Kazuya and we didn't get to see it go transparent. :( Still, it was better than the dress she had on before. <3

Elizabeth really seems to enjoy skinny dipping. Every time they show her that's what she's doing. I guess when you have that kind of body, you don't want it covered with a bikini. It's either that or she can't find one that fits properly. :p

[Kraco]

A fanservice episode indeed but it seemed to nicely develop Kazuya and Satella's relationship so it's not so bad. Rana is still hanging there but she now seems to respect Kazuya's decision so it's cool enough.

[Buffalobiian]

The ending was good to see though. Kazuya getting control of his powers and creating such a big Freezing field.

Hrmm, last week's preview with Satella wearing a dress made me think this episode would be the date chapter from the manga. I'm glad they decided to skip that and come up with an original episode that was full of fanservice.

I was going to say.. there's no way that freezing field's canon. Not only has Kazuya not been able to control his field up until now, but freezing freezes limb movement, but not facial expressions or the mind like it did here.

[Kraco]

Nonetheless, they can't really make Kazuya unable to control it anymore the next time after this, so in my book it's fine. I mostly hate plot devices where a character uses a cool power but afterwards can't remember how he/she did it. Or I suppose they could, but I don't know how the director could anymore look at himself in the mirror in the morning after such idiocy.

[David75]

Nonetheless, they can't really make Kazuya unable to control it anymore the next time after this, so in my book it's fine. I mostly hate plot devices where a character uses a cool power but afterwards can't remember how he/she did it. Or I suppose they could, but I don't know how the director could anymore look at himself in the mirror in the morning after such idiocy.

Well there's always the daydream plot device, or they could explain that is how they remembered the scene, how they felt it when in fact Kazuya's freezing was average or less so that he can walk... since it takes such a toll on his body/forces.

[Buffalobiian]

Nonetheless, they can't really make Kazuya unable to control it anymore the next time after this, so in my book it's fine. I mostly hate plot devices where a character uses a cool power but afterwards can't remember how he/she did it. Or I suppose they could, but I don't know how the director could anymore look at himself in the mirror in the morning after such idiocy.

You can just pull it off again as "Oh, I dunno.. I just wanted to help you and it worked" again. I'm sure they can cast this aside just fine should they want to.

It's funny how most of this episode's progression doesn't make that much sense... Atia challenging Satella to a contest she had no way to ensure victory for one. She ultimately had to rely on Elizabeth, and even then it didn't work. But she had something else in mind anyway, so I'll let that one off.

Then there's Satella "willing to do anything for Kazuya". Remind me of how Kazuya got into the picture again and why this contest has anything to do with him?

[Kraco]

Atia likely thought she would automatically beat someone as cold and detached as Satella, who likely wouldn't know at all how to impress the audience (which turned out true). I personally think Satella got lots of votes simply because voting her would be funny and kind of unorthodox.

Winning for Kazuya makes sense since even Satella has clearly stated they are a team. Even if it's a contest where only one can participate, it's still a victory for the team as well. It was likely a psychological thing for her as well because she was lacking motivation and courage to do it otherwise, when facing the real deal. Simply saying she's doing it for Kazuya (who probably wouldn't have minded either way), gave her a powerful reason to do it.

[shinta|hikari]

Satella won because of Moe.

[Buffalobiian]

Satella won because of Moe.

Yeah. I was trying to pin down her general appeal (across all the episodes) that was contributed by her personality, but could never find the word for it. Who knew it was this overused, but in this case very apt word (at least in its current sense, much like the warming-up tsundere vs 80/20 tsundere term evolution).

[shinta|hikari]

I didn't find it moe, but the guys watching literally shouted it out.

[Marik]

Hrmm, I forgot to post this when I posted ep 8.

http://www.hiryuufansubs.com/funstuff NSFW

Freezing flash game Breakout! from the official site translated by Hiryuu.

[Buffalobiian]

Hrmm, I forgot to post this when I posted ep 8.

http://www.hiryuufansubs.com/funstuff NSFW

Freezing flash game Breakout! from the official site translated by Hiryuu.


lame it should of continued until I remove her bra and panties

^ this. Don't dish out NSFW unless you mean it Marik!! :<

Just played Satella, about to try out Ingrid and Elizabeth, then possibly Rana before I get bored of this. And I can't play with any colour other than black. The others are pretty much invisible.

Crtl rules, wide is okay, Shoot's close to useless, and the other ones you're better off not using.

Poor choice of the reward gif too. It should be whatever we "unlocked", not what we started with :(.

[Marik]

^ this. Don't dish out NSFW unless you mean it Marik!! :<

So, having a picture of an animated female in her bra and panties is acceptable in the workplace. Duly noted.

[Buffalobiian]

So, having a picture of an animated female in her bra and panties is acceptable in the workplace. Duly noted.

*sigh*.. okay, I'll give you that.

added Chiffon to the list since it's unlikely anyone would be able to strip her in battle.

edit: okay what the heck, I played them all. Satella and Arnett were the only two had gave me problems. Whether it was because I didn't make effective use of Crtl or because their blocks had a pyramid shape and affected predictability I can't be sure.

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 09 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=198031) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/df8YxAp)

[NeoCybercoin]

Finally Nova action. I'm glad it's following the Manga and not diverting completely.

[Idealistic]

Was this a 13 ep or 20 something ep series? And yeah they are finally getting into the Nova's, bout time. Also, I hope we aren't going to get some drama where Satella gets mad at Kazuya because he was attracted to her for looking like his sister instead of the actual her. Would be kind of lame at this point considering there hasn't even been any development between the two really.

[Marik]

Was this a 13 ep or 20 something ep series?

12 episode series.

[Kraco]

The anime world is suddenly so full of sister love... Of course Kazuya was a siscon from ep one, but I somehow hoped at this point he liked Satella for other reasons already. He has certainly been in her company long enough.

[shinta|hikari]

He was about to say something more/else when Satella ran off, at least that is probably what will get revealed in their reconciliation scene.

[Buffalobiian]

The anime world is suddenly so full of sister love... Of course Kazuya was a siscon from ep one

Ah, this is where it gets interesting. If Kazuya is attracted to her sister's stigmas, then was he attracted to her sister, or her stigmas?

Perhaps he's less of a Siscon and more of a Nova-con. ;)

I couldn't see if any of the girls were fighting in Pandora Mode. The story doesn't seem to be making a big deal out of it anymore.


Why do they pointlessly attack with conventional weaponry all the time when it's been proven time and time again that they have no effect? They did it in Eva, and they're doing it here.

[animus]

Then doesn't that make Satella sort of a brocon since no other male can touch her outside of Kazuya? I'm assuming it's because of the kindred feeling her Stigmata's (which are Kazuya's sister's) have towards him. Only reasonable explanation I can think of besides the thought of "it just happened to be that way".

[NeoCybercoin]

First he thought it was his sister but realized she isn't and began to like her for who she is. That pretty much sums up what he is going to say to her. Wonder if they will reveal who else has Aoi's Stigma's.

[Buffalobiian]

He was about to say something more/else when Satella ran off, at least that is probably what will get revealed in their reconciliation scene.

Go to battle,
Get beat up,
Say it in the heat of the battle,
Power up (maybe even form an Ereinbar Set),
Defeat Nova.


Then doesn't that make Satella sort of a brocon since no other male can touch her outside of Kazuya?

Hahaha, didn't think of that. I'm enjoying the thought. :D

The next episode is titled Nova Form, and they mentioned before that Kazuya's freezing ability was closer to a Nova's than anything they've seen. I would love for him to be a badass military power in his own right, though at the same time that would diminish the importance of him and Satella being a pair if that happened.

That said, Nova Form would also mean Pandoras transforming into Nova-like beings, since if one can absorb the other, interchanging forms ain't so far-fetched. Again, not so sure about having monster-girls fight...

[animus]

I'm kinda disappointed the anime chose to make Pandora forms glowing hair eyes and some tron lines over the body. Pandora form in the manhwa is a full body suit complete with a helm and everything (which is quite similar in appearance to a Nova).

[Buffalobiian]

I'm kinda disappointed the anime chose to make Pandora forms glowing hair eyes and some tron lines over the body. Pandora form in the manhwa is a full body suit complete with a helm and everything (which is quite similar in appearance to a Nova).

This reminds me... why does East Genetics have the same miniskirt uniform as West Genetics? Isn't Satella's long dress the standard East Gen uniform?

[Marik]

This reminds me... why does East Genetics have the same miniskirt uniform as West Genetics? Isn't Satella's long dress the standard East Gen uniform?

Satella's long dress is unique. No one else wears that.

[Buffalobiian]

Satella's long dress is unique. No one else wears that.

Hmm. That's both good and bad news.

[Ryllharu]

No one else noticed that Cathy Lockharte's favorite food was listed as "coke"?

[NeoCybercoin]

Celebrities tend to have that problem.

[Buffalobiian]

No one else noticed that Cathy Lockharte's favorite food was listed as "coke"?

Noticed, but forgot it after her rather shocking (and revealing) fate.

These girls were meant to be the reserves though, right? They never mentioned whether the graduated squads were defeated or not. Furthermore, wouldn't the teacher be the "backup finisher", if not the Finisher outright? I daresay she's stronger than Cathy.

[Marik]

The second version of Breakout has been translated.

http://www.hiryuufansubs.com/funstuff (NSFW)


Breakout No. 2 appears!
This is the underwear version, batch one was the uniform version.

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 10v2 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=199521) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/3dpFexQ)

v2 Patch (http://www.mediafire.com/?1j5nnj8afe515fu)

The fourth different version they've released today.

[1:22:06pm] <~EpicNaruto|away> first was misshifted OP/ED
[1:22:13pm] <~EpicNaruto|away> then we found a line we forgot to add in

[NeoCybercoin]

Too bad...wish they followed the manga on this episode. But since it's only 12 to 13 episodes long that would take too long I guess.

[Kraco]

I'm not a manga reader and thus this was a decent enough ep for me. Not that my expectations would ever be too high with a boobs anime like this...

[NeoCybercoin]

Since I am not sure what will happen in ep 12 or 13 it might still happen. If not you should read manga about this. Although the part about Maria Lancelot has not been covered by the manga yet but they did display a partial image of her. So on that part it has gone further than the manga but only at that point.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm only annoyed that Kazuya STILL hasn't managed to tell Satella what he wants to say yet. And of course she was listening, nobody else drops a dozen burgers on the ground like Satella does. I bet you they were still warm.

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 11 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=201975) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/9Wu2Asr)

Edit: According to AT-X, Episode 12 (Final) won't air until April 7th.


『フリージング』 第12話（最終回）
4月7日（木）9:30-10:00／21:30-22:00
4月11日（月）15:30-16:00／27:30-28:00

[Kraco]

The positive thing is that Satella got what Kazuya still couldn't really say, the negative thing is that the fight sucked noodles longer than Bill ever found in his cans. I'm sure this fight should have been better and more meaningful, whether it was from the manga or not, but the execution was miserable. Like how Kazuya waited until Satella was beaten half-way to death before helping her and how they didn't attack the single enemy all at once but one at a time. All in all it was hard to believe these were the people who had so succesfully fought against upperclassmen just a couple of eps ago.

[Buffalobiian]

What caught my attention was the use of blood. Blood from Kazuya's scalp? Blood from Cathy's eyes? It just doesn't make sense.

I could even settle with Kazuya coughing up blood from freezing-overdrive - at least that shit's coming from somewhere appropriate, you know.

The other thing I noted was that all the 3rd year's shots were one-hit kills on the corrupted stigmas other than Cleo's. Sure she's using fists, but I always assumed she more than made up for that fact with her power.

[Idealistic]

1 more ep left and I still don't even understand what is really going on in this anime.

[Marik]

[Hiryuu] Freezing SP01 - 1080p FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=203522) | MU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BXM6DKQG) | FS (http://www.fileserve.com/file/hEWNgB3)
[Hiryuu] Freezing SP01 - 720p AAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=203521) | MU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M00HBAAN) | FS (http://www.fileserve.com/file/KNt7Jzw)

[Hiryuu] Freezing BD Vol. 1 OST FLAC - Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=203519) | MU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J7264ZZE) | FS (http://www.fileserve.com/file/KNt7Jzw)

[Marik]

[WhyNot] Freezing - 12 - Uncensored: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=204655) | DDL (http://www.fileserve.com/file/rGUbeJG)

[Idealistic]

Professor Aoi?!?? What?!?

Anyways, if only the show was like this from the start. The season ends and it really just started.

[David75]

Professor Aoi?!?? What?!?

Anyways, if only the show was like this from the start. The season ends and it really just started.

It really was like that from the start.
Don't you remember that there was some blood from very early in the show?
After that, they had to build some kind of story and give material so that it doesn't seem too empty, so yes some eps were a little less entertaining.
But I think they manage well in applying all shonen codes and rythm, much like in Initial D battle eps.

Thing is we already had many power ups, and now we have a double level in Power.
And yes, this is only a begining.

After all, it's also almost certain the lady controlling the power levels when Satela did her double surge, was Kazuya's sister.

Edit:
Also, I find great similarities with Claymore in how the power is implanted and how past a certain level Pandoras can become enemies... and how playing with that limit can result in great power boosts and even new (at least for some seconds) stable states.

[Kraco]

Damn Rana. I really wanted to see the baptism between Satella and Kazuya. Now the show ended and we never saw the bloody thing.

[NeoCybercoin]

[Hatsuyuki] Freezing Special 02 BD 1080p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=211724)

Let's see what kind of shameless fan service we get this time.

EDIT: Of course! Girls bathing while molesting Satella. Why didn't I think of that?

[Penner]

I haven't yet seen this show because i'm waiting for all the eps to come out in 1080p bluray, which might take a while :/

[Buffalobiian]

I must have been spoiled by the recent HOTD ova or something, but this was too mild. :/

Or maybe just too short.

[Marik]

[Hiryuu] Freezing SP03 - 1080p FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=217060) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S3ZB9EMP)
[Hiryuu] Freezing SP03 - 720p AAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=217006) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2NNQR0PU)

[Hiryuu] Freezing BD Vol. 3 OST FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=217008) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ELKBDOIF)

[Buffalobiian]

That one's the best special so far.

[Kraco]

Yeah, this was actually pretty funny, the ending included.

[Marik]

[Hiryuu] Freezing SP04 - 1080p FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=224122) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JHDORCZE)
[Hiryuu] Freezing SP04 - 720p AAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=224121) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C6EB42YQ)

[Hiryuu] Freezing BD Vol. 4 OST - FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=224117) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6EC7Y78Y)

[NeoCybercoin]

Nova in a bikini...never thought I'd see the day...

[Marik]

It was only a bikini top. It didn't seem to need a bottom.

Small-breasted crossfire FTW.

[Marik]

[Hiryuu] Freezing SP05 - 1080p FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=234075) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBQ93DF0)
[Hiryuu] Freezing SP05 - 720p AAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=234076) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LF4RYK7M)

[Hiryuu] Freezing BD Vol. 5 OST - FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=234072) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M5PWY6ZF)

[Buffalobiian]

Not the most revealing special episode, but I liked this a lot. It's not very often that you see Satelizer smile so much (particularly with her glasses off).

Other than that, I was expecting some more.. umm.. fluids... from the Niagara Falls demonstration lol.

[Marik]

[Hiryuu] Freezing SP06 - 1080p FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=240890) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LOW1P7NF)
[Hiryuu] Freezing SP06 - 720p AAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=240893) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3GHMY9LU)

[Hiryuu] Freezing BD Vol. 6 OST - FLAC: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=240889) | DDL (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DOSA6MWR)

[Buffalobiian]

I thought for a second that it was Kazuya controlling the other girls using his Freezing ability to take advantage of this "anything goes" training scenario. Guess he's still as soft as ever.

[NeoCybercoin]

At least he is not denying that he does like it. Eh..why the hell are we talking about one of the few guys in a pure fan service episode? Yay for moaning.

[Marik]

I wonder if anyone cares...

Freezing Sci-Fi Action Anime Gets 2nd Season (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-03-25/freezing-sci-fi-action-anime-gets-2nd-season)

And yes, I know it's almost 3 days old news.

[Buffalobiian]

Cool. Let's just hope it's as good as the first 3 episodes of the first series.. as unlikely as that would be.

[NeoCybercoin]

Today is a good day.

Now I hope it's not about the resort arc but the Alaska arc instead.

[Ryllharu]

What I said when I found out:

<%Ryllharu> wtf
<%Ryllharu> Freezing got a second season
<%Ryllharu> There is no god.

[Kraco]

<%Ryllharu> wtf
<%Ryllharu> Freezing got a second season
<%Ryllharu> There is no god.

I hear the god of boobs is a major deity in Japan (and Korea).

[Marik]

The second season is being called, Vibration. Satellizer seems to have a new uniform.

http://freezing.tv/

[Marik]

Today is a good day.

Now I hope it's not about the resort arc but the Alaska arc instead.


There's a trailer up on the Freezing site (http://freezing.tv) showing the Alaska arc.

[NeoCybercoin]

Great news! Been looking forward to seeing that arc animated.

[Buffalobiian]

Hiryuu - Freezing Vibration Ep 01 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=479884)

[Kraco]

Bloody Rana is still standing between Satella and Kazuya. Oh, well, I guess at this point it's a solid plot element that the baptism will never happen. Or it will happen in the very last chapter of the manga.

This Alaska trip is looking quite promising, nevertheless.

[David75]

I knew before watching this again that any plot/scenario would be even more fragile/thin than their Volt/texture.
Still I was amazed at how they made it all pointless right from ep1 of that second season.

And fanservice/ecchi wasn't even that good.
I hope it'll get better starting ep2

[Buffalobiian]

And fanservice/ecchi wasn't even that good.
I hope it'll get better starting ep2

Oh good, I'm not the only one who thought that. During the episode I thought it needed to be more hardcore, but by the end I decided that it wasn't because it was soft, but that it wasn't all that good. There really needs to be more sexual tension/advance between the male/females or else it's just nudity without the tease.

[David75]

Since that show isn't about anything but fanservice/ecchi, it's a shame they can't even do that well.
That ep wasn't even on par with average comedy shows ecchi/fanservice.

We've had crude breast shots, fast panty shots, the usual Volt texture selfdestruct mode and that's about it.

Yes that's it, no teasing or tension.

[Buffalobiian]

I did get my dose of Elizabeth though. That was good.

[David75]

I did get my dose of Elizabeth though. That was good.

Svelte, long blond hair always bare breasted in her private pool?

[Buffalobiian]

Svelte, long blond hair always bare breasted in her private pool?

Right on. She's classy.

[Buffalobiian]

Hiryuu - S2 Episode 02 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=482206)

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Svelte, long blond hair always bare breasted in her private pool?

As it turns out, in any pool!!!

Best. Episode. Ever. ~~

I downloaded Horriblesubs before, but it was deleted with fire as soon as I saw Elizabeth's beauty being blighted. They say pandoras die and shit. Please don't let this be a set-up for that. The OP has a shot of her in hospital, so it's hopeful that she'll survive whatever hits her.. so in that case please don't extract her Stigmata. I need her hanging around the pool on screen.

[David75]

That ep was better, I mean for the Freezing franchise of course.
But it's surprising they would spend some time on inferior pandoras, when the one they have last under a minute at best in real combat conditions. What would be the purpose of E-pandoras? They would be totally useless on the battlefield, at least as they are now.
Maybe their only quality would be they aren't compatible with Nova and can't be brain-hacked and turn against humanity as puppets... like pandoras do.

[Buffalobiian]

If the project is successful, then the E-pandora could be produced en mass. They're weak now and need to improve using the original pandora. It seems reasonable enough. It doesn't sound like the e-pandoras are mentally prepared to die though, which could be a problem when the real crisis kicks in.

[Kraco]

Quite a decent episode in my opinion. The setting is kind of a cliche, but that's okay with this show. The execution of the mock fight especially was good, with one side doomed to losing from the beginning and the other side not knowing how exactly how far to go. With the fundamental purpose of the fights so far removed from the contestants themselves, the motivations were all over the place. The E-Pandoras naturally simply wanted to prove their worth, their right to exist and participate in humanity's efforts against the Novas, while the real Pandoras were supposed to be nothing but measurement devices to see how high the E-Pandoras could jump. I'm happy the real Pandoras ended up supporting the E-Pandoras despite the fact Pandoras are known to be very competitive, proud, and even arrogant. Though it's always easy to appear magnanimous from a position of absolute superiority.

But I fucking hate the other cliche of Kazuya getting kicked out of the shared room with Satella and instead the girls sharing it. I wish Kazuya had enough balls to be a man every once in a while and do what he wants to do (assuming he does want anything).


It doesn't sound like the e-pandoras are mentally prepared to die though, which could be a problem when the real crisis kicks in.

Nobody needs people who are mentally prepared to die. They need people who are ready to fight to win, no matter the cost.

[Buffalobiian]

Nobody needs people who are mentally prepared to die. They need people who are ready to fight to win, no matter the cost.

Allow me to rephrase: they're not mentally aware that death is a real possibility.

[NeoCybercoin]

I don't think Kazuya got kicked out of his own room. I think he left on his own since he was the source of the problem in his eyes. But still.......what the hell was he thinking? Sharing a room with Stella like that.

[Kraco]

I don't think Kazuya got kicked out of his own room. I think he left on his own since he was the source of the problem in his eyes. But still.......what the hell was he thinking? Sharing a room with Stella like that.

I was talking about a cliche, so that cliche kicked him out of the room, not any other character. There are myriad other anime/manga, where a guy and girl have been travelling together, but then from somewhere appear more girls, and they don't allow the original pair anymore such privacy. So, it's always going to be girls sharing a room and the guy spending his time in loneliness (but I guess it's okay, since he doesn't have any balls anyway, so at least that way he can't disappoint a girl).

[Buffalobiian]

Hiryuu - S2 Episode 03 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=484487)


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Stupid scientific labs..

I can see Elizabeth advocating for E-Pandora safety after this fight.

[Kraco]

It looks like the kind of research where sacrifices cannot be avoided if results are wanted quickly for the ongoing war. But you certainly are correct in the sense that it doesn't look like a fully sanctioned project with acknowledged unknowns (like science shoud be), but rather something an organization or a company is doing on a false premise to secure their funding and continuation. The scientist woman's behavior was highly divided as well between trying to meet the progress expectations and at least trying to maintain some principles. But the fact they were keeping so many secrets fundamentally renders the whole thing quite fell. I suppose one problem is that watching the pandora girls swimming and enjoying themselves doesn't really give an impression the humanity is in any imminent danger of annihilation, justifying inhuman experimentation.

[David75]

Freezing is not a stellar anime by any standards.
But at least it does not try to be elitist or something it isn't.
It's a fanservice show, with simple shonen/seinen structure and a simple story line. Yet you can enjoy it for what it is for now. I had my doubts in ep1.
I'm just a little frustrated at Satela, she's a second character for now. But I understand that they have to give some flesh to other characters to try and build a storyline.

It was a bit surprising they used Satela's data. From what I remember, she is an odd one. Number of Stigmata, the way she was implanted and everything is non standard about her. She might just be you 6sigma kind of test subject that survived her stigmata and accessed a huge source of powers she only exploited to a bare minimum as of yet.
So it's a bit strange a scientist would chose that as a model, when Elisabeth and the others among the top seems to be "easier" models to apprehend from a scientific angle.

But again, that might be because it will give Satela a major role in solving the crisis, as she becomes defacto the only one to truly understand some of the specifics of the powers implanted in Gina. Or also she might be somewhat controllable by Kazuya's Limiter.

[Kraco]

I'm just a little frustrated at Satela, she's a second character for now. But I understand that they have to give some flesh to other characters to try and build a storyline.

If Satella seems like a secondary character now, what does that make Kazuya? Barely even a tertiary one. Even Rana, let her name be cursed, seems more important than Kazuya at the moment.

[Buffalobiian]

It was a bit surprising they used Satela's data. From what I remember, she is an odd one. Number of Stigmata, the way she was implanted and everything is non standard about her. She might just be you 6sigma kind of test subject that survived her stigmata and accessed a huge source of powers she only exploited to a bare minimum as of yet.

If Satellizer has 6 stigmatas in her, it might be a good to use her data since the idea with MkIV was to activate the stigmatas in the e-pandoras. I'll agree with you if instead of compatibility we're looking for maximum exploitation - we should be looking at Ms Monster there. She's got... 3 (only)?

[Kraco]

In any case, weren't they just unnecessarily greedy to speed up the process? Normal sense would dictate they use data from a very average but exceedingly stable person (that is, not somebody from this flock of elites they invited). They have a process they clearly understand very poorly and can predict the result of even less, yet they still went for the maximum output right off the bat. While I think the E-Pandora is a very worthy project, despite what we have seen, I think the boss man on the phone belongs in a prison and the scientist lady would deserve a few good punches in the head and a long lecture about ethics.

[Buffalobiian]

You know, given the state the world is supposedly in I'm wondering why there's so much resistance to the e-pandora project before this. They haven't told us anything about a competing project. Cutting funds to line pockets isn't going to save people from the Nova, the cut funds should have gone to another rival department.

[David75]

As Kraco (I think) mentionned before, we do not have any useful background on the state of their world.
Things I remember tell me that there are cities, research facilities and strong states still there with army and lots of equipment that suppose the world can still operate freely enough.
I guess that's the maximum we get get from a show which purpose is elsewhere ;)

We even totally forgot about Kazuya's sister and his sister complex. And the fact that some of the Stigmata she had are now implanted in Satella, explaining their natural pairing.
Doesn't matter in the end, boobs and ass do!

[Buffalobiian]

Things I remember tell me that there are cities, research facilities and strong states still there with army and lots of equipment that suppose the world can still operate freely enough.

The only thing that works against the Nova when they get in close are the Pandoras because the Nova freezes anything else. They also said a few episodes ago that Pandoras die left, right a center. All that leads me to believe that pandoras are the last line between humans and their destruction..

But yeah, just keep feeding me more Mably and I'm happy.

[Buffalobiian]

Hiryuu - S2 Episode 04 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=487257)

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WHAT the FUCK did you do to my Eli!?

I haven't been so furious in a long, long time. At first I thought maybe Chiffon did it, but she seemed just as surprised. Now I really want to watch the episode, but I might break something if I do.. FFF------


edit: post-rage, and now using my brain. Perhaps it was a forceful stigmata extraction.

[Kraco]

I guess this was the reason why she didn't Satella to follow her; she foresaw this conclusion of the likely one. I suppose Chevalier will lose one investor after this.

Kind of funny to only talk about the preview like it already happened, but it's not like this ep had that much content in it. But it's really evident Satella might not even be ready for the baptism herself: She still can't inherently comprehend the role of freezing in battle and thus got so easily stopped by her peers.

[Buffalobiian]

But it's really evident Satella might not even be ready for the baptism herself: She still can't inherently comprehend the role of freezing in battle and thus got so easily stopped by her peers.

I thought that's what the support roles are for. The Nova are capable of Freezing, so you need your supports to counter-freeze. Pandoras themselves aren't inherently immune or resistant to its effects.

[Kraco]

I thought that's what the support roles are for. The Nova are capable of Freezing, so you need your supports to counter-freeze. Pandoras themselves aren't inherently immune or resistant to its effects.

I'm not really sure what your point is, in relation to my comment.

I was talking about the scene where Satella intended to intervene but was frozen by Eli's support, whom Eli naturally had with her. But where was Satella's partner, Kazuya? Nowhere in sight because Satella's such an untouchable queen she doesn't fully get, deep down, their role in battle, to her detriment. This is why I said she might not be ready for the baptism herself. She would only go for it (if she wasn't so shy) because she likes Kazuya as a man and because her pride tells her all the other top Pandora obviously have a Limiter. But she hasn't wrapped her head around the fact she can't perform at 100% as a Pandora without a Limiter at hand.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm not really sure what your point is, in relation to my comment.

I was talking about the scene where Satella intended to intervene but was frozen by Eli's support, whom Eli naturally had with her. But where was Satella's partner, Kazuya? Nowhere in sight because Satella's such an untouchable queen she doesn't fully get, deep down, their role in battle, to her detriment. This is why I said she might not be ready for the baptism herself. She would only go for it (if she wasn't so shy) because she likes Kazuya as a man and because her pride tells her all the other top Pandora obviously have a Limiter. But she hasn't wrapped her head around the fact she can't perform at 100% as a Pandora without a Limiter at hand.

I thought you were saying that Satellizer got stropped (frozen by Andrei) because she couldn't comprehend the idea of having a partner.

I'll agree to an extent since Satellizer didn't bring Kazuya along, but she also moved on her own accord since she's supposed to be on standby. Getting someone else to break the law with her doesn't sound all that plausible either. This is particularly the case since it was an emergency and she came along just because she had a hunch.

[Kraco]

I thought you were saying that Satellizer got stropped (frozen by Andrei) because she couldn't comprehend the idea of having a partner.

Exactly. It's like she didn't realise it could happen - because in her head she doesn't count for the existence of a Limiter. It's all fine during the bouts and such, but this situation was a real battle situation. The combat unit is a Pandora+Limiter. Having only a Pandora is less than a single unit. That's what she doesn't fully realise yet.


I'll agree to an extent since Satellizer didn't bring Kazuya along, but she also moved on her own accord since she's supposed to be on standby. Getting someone else to break the law with her doesn't sound all that plausible either. This is particularly the case since it was an emergency and she came along just because she had a hunch.

I find that just sad. It's made all the sadder by Satella begging Eli to allow her to participate in the protest (meaning, Satella should be allowed to break the law for the greater good, but Kazuya not even given the chance). I'm not sure it's pure consideration on Satella's part to not even ask Kazuya. On one hand Satella likes to behave as if they were a real combat unit already, like with her reaction to the initial room arrangement (that the thrice-cursed Rana broke), but on the other hand Satella forgets Kazuya and thus also Kazuya's feelings whenever it suits her.

[Kraco]

Episode 5 - Hatsuyuki (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=489501)





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Looks like the Mably family hadn't run their business altogether cleanly if they were brough down this easily. After all, governments wouldn't give an organization like Chevalier any extra powers considering how powerful Pandoras alone make it. On the contrary, if an organization like Chevalier tried to do anything shady, their leadership would be brought down swiftly.

Looks like Elizabeth is finished in any case. Severe brain damage or something. I wonder how they are going to justify that...

[Buffalobiian]

I had forgotten that Satella was against baptising because she was abused as a child.

As for Elizabeth.. I'm hopeful at the moment. Somehow this actual episode didn't bring about as much dread as the preview from last week did. As for the scandals, I wonder how truthful they are, or whether they were set up. If Chevalier can hide their dirty work, it's not impossible to create some dirty evidence for the Mably family either.

Amelia's scene really shouldn't have ended without seeing Eli personally. The whole family thing is drastic and all, but the mindbreak's what symbolises the self-sacrifice.

[Kraco]

If Chevalier can hide their dirty work, it's not impossible to create some dirty evidence for the Mably family either.

It's true we only saw some headlines and that's pretty much it. But the episode did give an impression the company was done for. Fabricated evidence alone doesn't really lead to that, at most to a fall in stock prices (if it's a corporation), loss of revenue, and investigations, unless we are talking about China or something. Although this story is written by a Korean, and South Korea used to be ruled by a military junta up till late 80's, so I imagine it's possible Koreans could have a bit different world view with lots of extrajudicial actions being taken against individuals and business. I'm no expert on Korea, though, so who knows.

[NeoCybercoin]

Hmm seems they mixed two arc into one. Because the whole Bali thing was supposed to have happened before Alaska, not during. I wonder how dark it will get in the anime. Because she obviously fears her brother.

[Kraco]

I wonder how dark it will get in the anime. Because she obviously fears her brother.

I began to really hope Kazuya will get a chance to shine when the brother appeared. After all, we are 5 eps in, and he might as well not have appeared at all, for all his impact on the stuff going on.

[NeoCybercoin]

Pfff nobody cares about Kazuya anymore. Not until he shows he has the balls.

[David75]

He didn't show his power
We were not reminded anything about his sister and her stigmata being implanted in Satella.
Truth be told, even Satella wasn't really a MC during all those eps, Eli had more flesh, monster and the e-pandoras too.

[NeoCybercoin]

Episode 6 - Hiryuu (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=491798)

Glad that went a lot faster than I thought it would. It will most likely be over by the next episode already. Which is good.
And it seems Kazuya does have some balls after all.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 6 - Hiryuu (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=491798)

Glad that went a lot faster than I thought it would. It will most likely be over by the next episode already. Which is good.
And it seems Kazuya does have some balls after all.

I really wished Kazuya's stand happened half an episode earlier. The cliffhanger too... he's bound do his signature super-freeze. They can redeem this cliffhanger by giving us a full episode of downed-beating by Kazuya. (Won't happen ofc, he'll just walk away with Satella)

[David75]

Usually Kazuya doesn't care approaching Satella. So the 2 scenes where his hand is shown wanting to touch her felt artificial in the first place.
But all in all, it was a much better episode than what we've been served before.

[Kraco]

Usually Kazuya doesn't care approaching Satella. So the 2 scenes where his hand is shown wanting to touch her felt artificial in the first place.

Perhaps he only tried to touch her now because he saw the brother touch her and Satella didn't resist (although it takes a genuine Japanese man not to notice the look of absolute terror on Satella's face). It's not like he wouldn't want to touch, or at least I hope so. But he wouldn't touch because she always looks so uncomfortable. Still, he does need to break the ice sooner or later, as Satella herself likely will only try to postpone it indefinitely, unless something major happens.

I'm very glad Kazuya showed some balls here, finally. Although I'm disappointed with his lack of kung fu and thus getting punched by the evil brother. He's Asian, for crying out loud, so he should know at least a few good moves as a birthright.

[Buffalobiian]

I'd actually say that the Japanese should be better at reading faces and non-verbal cues than others since their society seems to rely on it so much in order not to step on each other's toes.

[Kraco]

I'd actually say that the Japanese should be better at reading faces and non-verbal cues than others since their society seems to rely on it so much in order not to step on each other's toes.

Ten thousand harem series male main characters beg to disagree with you.

[Buffalobiian]

Hiryuu - Vibration Episode 07 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=493651)


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That was painful to watch. I can see the desire for the writers to make Satella settle this all by herself and turn Louis/Holly into good people to end the arc.. but it was still painful. Kazuya was all but useless. Satella said she'll protect me, so I should just stand here and let her do that! He didn't even counterfreeze the other duo.

Staying up to watch this episode just doubles the disappointment for me.

[Kraco]

Although I fully agree on the painfulness of watching this episode, and especially the miracle curing of the evil brother's rotten personality, I can somewhat understand why Kazuya decided to take such a passive role. Under normal circumstances the kind of situation Satella was in would be most efficiently broken if she does it herself. She was sickly dependent on her brother for most of her life, so she needed to get rid of those chains and stand up for herself. Yet on the other hand loneliness was her second curse, and that's where Kazuya stands to help. I reckon he did it sufficiently by encouraging her as much as was possible. And he did break the freezing, which is naturally something only he could do and thus impossible to leave to Satella herself.

The weakest part of this ep was the brother not dying when he jumped. I knew he was going to jump as soon as they began to show the waves rolling against the rocks like in some horror movie from the B/W days. But that he survived the jump destroyed any stylistic theme, let alone victory, those scenes were hoped to produce. I mean, in the old movies the jump would surely have been lethal. This show is otherwise so cruel and bloody that it's hard to see why the abysmal brother needed a sugary ending.

[David75]

Sure Last ep was better, as it was darker and they had to end everything by the end of today's ep.

Holly is a good girl, but there's no reason why Louis should change that much after having a fresh salt water bath.
The proper routes would have been a good beating by both and the elder sister ending it all for good measure with Louis losing his edge on Satella.

WTF the scene with the father not knowing anything about his daughter's life and he think he likes her?

[NeoCybercoin]

Well we don't know anything about the father/daughter relation they have ( at least I think )
For all we know she was treated like a normal daughter and the guy just didn't know about his scumbag son.

[Kraco]

I get a feeling the father is so busy doing business all over the world he hardly meets the children at all (just like any regular father should be in the Japanese culture). The nefarious brother probably also made sure Satella lost as many chances to meet the father as possible and couldn't say anything at all during the meetings she got. No doubt her stepmother did the same.

[Kraco]

Episode 8 - Hiryuu (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=495889)





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It was nice to see Satella face an opponent with Kazuya by her side, like a real team of a Pandora and a Limiter.

I'm not sure I get the situation right now, though. The evil Chevalier boss had the right idea: This development allows them to monitor a bunch of Mark IV subjects at the same time, gaining statistically stronger data. Plus they took the injections by themselves, so there's no need to face the irk of the remaining ones and their whining. Also, if they all happen to die, the new batch of E-Pandora to arrive won't have the old ones around agigating them, spreading rumours and discontent. A total victory for Chevalier, if anything. Which brings me to the unexplained part: Why the tool-Pandora faced the E-Pandora like some criminals.

[Buffalobiian]

A total victory for Chevalier, if anything. Which brings me to the unexplained part: Why the tool-Pandora faced the E-Pandora like some criminals.

Amelia is going to take the records (of failed experiments) from Dr Oohara and release them to the world (what Eli tried to do). She'll also die in front of them during the process to make it all the more believable. Chevalier seems like they need a whole lot of public support for this project, so the E-pandoras are kicking it where it hurts.

I don't like nor know why Eli was dark like that. Shouldn't she be pale instead? I know she's normally white already so it'll be difficult, but darkening her like that doesn't really work.

[Kraco]

That isn't exactly what I was talking about. Since Chevalier actually wanted to see what happens with these new Mark IVs (assuming they are new versions), they got now exactly what they wanted. Instead of beating the E-Pandora and treating them like criminal scum, the real Pandora should just usher them somewhere. But then again, I suppose they could have been adviced to treat them exactly like that and provocate them into fights to see immediately if they are any good and how soon they turn into Novas. But that would seem like pretty hasty and careless science.

[NeoCybercoin]

Episode 9- Hiryuu (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=498219)

For all the Elizabeth fans.

I'm looking forward to the next episode the most. Going to see some actual Chiffon action.

[Kraco]

It's good to see Elizabeth didn't turn out permanently brain dead. Though it's strange she's so suddenly up to heavy fighting.

One funny thing here is all that talking that still doesn't appear to have any results whatsoever. But I suppose they would hesitate ever so slightly to attack other Pandora and thus they waste time talking in their hesitation.

[Buffalobiian]

It's good to see more Eli again, though seeing her back in action so quick cheapens her trauma at the same time. If we saw her slowly and painfully recovering that would highlight even better the amount of sacrifice she had put in.

I don't get how Mach 3 ultrasonic waves meant anything as far as avoiding Mach 3's Quad-accel goes. If your attacks are faster, you'll simply hit the enemy first. You have to break their follow-through or dodge the follow-through to still avoid the attack. So did Godspeed miss without realising?

[NeoCybercoin]

Maybe when she got hit first she got nudged off-course and missed because of that?

[David75]

I thought I read Quattro Accel is mach 2 and the defense mechanism was mach 3

[Kraco]

How does a sonic attack travel at Mach 3, though? If it's sonic, it ought to travel at Mach 1, obviously...

[NeoCybercoin]

Stigmata science. Let's just leave it at that =\

[Buffalobiian]

I thought I read Quattro Accel is mach 2 and the defense mechanism was mach 3

Yep, my typo. I meant Mach 2.


Maybe when she got hit first she got nudged off-course and missed because of that?

But Godspeed didn't realise..? Meh, she'll win anyway. :3

[NeoCybercoin]

Episode 10 Hiryuu (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=500320)

Get it while it's fresh.

[Kraco]

These fights are really poorly executed, rendering their meaningfulness somewhat moot. Sure, a defeated one is down and the winner walks forward, but they might as well have played rock, paper, scissors if the fights don't need to make any sense. Like Charles's Limiter suddenly stopping doing anything when Andre went all out. Or Kazuya doing absolutely nothing when Satella (and Rana) were bleeding, despite Chiffon not having her own Limiter anywhere in sight and thus Kazuya's freezing would have gone unchallenged. Does Kazuya enjoy watching Satella bleed or something?

[NeoCybercoin]

Yeah I have to agree that the fights are poorly done because of what you said. At least Chiffon really is the monster they say she is. Would have been even better if she fought while under effects of the Freezing. Still...she hasn't opened her eyes yet. If a closed eyed character opens their eyes then shit is about to go down.

[Kraco]

Would have been even better if she fought while under effects of the Freezing.

Not like that, but rather the moment Kazuya had tried to freeze her, Chiffon would have jumped in and knocked Kazuya down, or at least thrown something his way. Kazuya is supposed to be a Limiter monster, after all, so it wouldn't make sense to be able to fight under his freezing. But aside from that, he's nothing more than a man, not a fighting machine like the Pandora. I wouldn't have wanted to see him badly hurt, though, just shaken enough he couldn't have interfered for a while.

[NeoCybercoin]

Yeah but she is also supposed to be the strongest Pandora ever. Fighting while under Freezing of that guy would just reinforce that fact. Ahh well..she is still gonna whoop ass.

[Buffalobiian]

I loved how either a win or a loss works out for Julia. She was so quick to give up for Cassie to have her way with her. xD

I wasn't aware that Limiters even had Stigmata in them. Perhaps I simply forgot or something.

[NeoCybercoin]

From what I remember the Limiter get's a Stigmata from their Pandora which allows them to use Freezing and Ereinbar Set. Why the hell they aren't able to use Volt Weapons and Textures I have no idea. Don't think that has ever been explained.

[NeoCybercoin]

Hiryuu-Episode 11 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=502399)

Double post, but w/e.

[Kraco]

Kazuya is a failure of a man. He couldn't even save the woman he loves, and thus Satella's love rival actually had to do it. In fact he needed another guy to tell him to do something before he launched his failed attempt. It can't get much more pitiful than that. He better pull off a miracle in this battle if he ever wants to be worth anything again.

[NeoCybercoin]

At least Chiffon decided to go all out and open her eyes. Which were pretty much the same as the cloned Maria ones. Plus she calls herself a True Pandora. Just bragging or does she mean something else?

[David75]

At least Chiffon decided to go all out and open her eyes. Which were pretty much the same as the cloned Maria ones. Plus she calls herself a True Pandora. Just bragging or does she mean something else?

If she's not on par with Maria Lancelot, then she's just bragging.

[NeoCybercoin]

Did they ever say what she could do? All we know is that she is the mother of all Pandora due to the stigmata that are made from her. Maybe she is the actual mother of Chiffon.

[David75]

It's very true we do not know much about Maria Lancelot.
We do not know much about Nova and how they came to be. And now there's that cheap religion link.
We do not know why baptism is necessary for a limiter to be paired with a pandora and keep her in check. Why said limiter has to be younger than said pandora and why Kazuya is the exception that did not need to receive his baptism from Satella... Yet he is probably one of the stronger limiters around.

But who cares when there's boobs and panty shots? :D

[NeoCybercoin]

Hiryuu- Freezing ep 12 (http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=505020)

Final episode for this season. Not sure if there will be a third season but then again we didn't know if there would be a second either.

[Buffalobiian]

Sucks that Chiffon died so quickly.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10261206
Aside from that, Elizabeth Mably fanservice was the best thing that came out of S2. :3

[NeoCybercoin]

Not as hardcore of a Eli fan as some of you but that is one nice looking mousepad.