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DarthEnderX
Tue, 12-14-2010, 12:51 PM
Bleach 301


[HorribleSubs] Bleach - 301 [720p].mkv (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=179849)
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DarthEnderX
Tue, 12-14-2010, 12:51 PM
Ah. Now I get all the snide Hyperbolic Time Chamber comments people were making a couple months ago.

NeoCybercoin
Tue, 12-14-2010, 05:23 PM
I'm not even watching the story. Just Yorouichi in her new outfit.

Archangel
Tue, 12-14-2010, 06:51 PM
Ah. Now I get all the snide Hyperbolic Time Chamber comments people were making a couple months ago.
Oh that's just the tip of the iceberg, we've been dropping sarcasm on these anime threads for a while now.

DarthEnderX
Tue, 12-14-2010, 06:56 PM
Well, Hyperbolic Time Chamber and Just as Aizen Planned were the two that kept jumping out at me and those seem pretty obvious now. If you guys were doing others I didn't notice.


It sounds though like Isshin is going to teach Ichigo a Shinigami powerup. Which, frankly, I find annoying because Ichigo JUST got a Hollow powerup that he has no control over, and has barely used. I expected at the very least he would have to use that on Aizen before moving on to ANOTHER powerup. But so far they're skipping it.

Although, granted. Aizen is mostly ignoring Ichigo. And I guess he'd probably have to kill Ichigo for that powerup to manifest again.

Shadow Skill
Tue, 12-14-2010, 09:42 PM
So with people waking up and Aizen apporoaching the town and such, is it really a Hyperbolic time chamber?

I know what Ichi's dad said but it's like they completely ignored it and real time still passed on the other side...

Only way I can see them making it true is if the gate opens right infront of Aizen. :/

That plus, if his dad new Ichi could read Aizen's "It's over 9000" power level, why did he act surprised? :P

DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-15-2010, 01:06 AM
That plus, if his dad new Ichi could read Aizen's "It's over 9000" power level, why did he act surprised? :PI don't think he knew for sure. Probably just suspected.

Remember they set it up in this episode that "Aizen's pressure is so strong now you can't even feel it unless your on his level."

And then when Ichigo goes "Can't you feel that guy's pressure?! How can I beat that!"

To which Isshin is like in his head, "Oh, so he IS on Aizen's level, I just need to teach him something to do with all that power."

Penner
Wed, 12-15-2010, 05:31 AM
Are we back to non-fillers? and if so, at what ep did it switch back?

Shadow Skill
Wed, 12-15-2010, 05:40 AM
Ohhhh I see :)

DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-15-2010, 07:22 AM
Are we back to non-fillers? and if so, at what ep did it switch back?It was only filler for two episodes.

Harima Kenji
Wed, 12-15-2010, 08:37 AM
There is something that kind of bugs me in this episode. The fact that Isshin uses the Getsuga tenshou makes me think that it's just a 'basic' zanpaktou move, and not a Zangetsu specific one. Nobody was surpised when Isshin used it. No 'how the hell did he use MY technique' type of expression at all.
If my memory doesn't fail me (and it regularly does) the person telling Ichigo the name of the move was Urahara. So either the moves are inherited, or it's a pretty standard move. Since Ichigo is (I'm guessing here) the first half blooded saiyan shinigami, it's still weird that nobody is surprised, not even Aizen or Gin.. Gin talks about it like it's the most normal thing in the world.
And if Isshin know's that 'final' version, why the hell didn't HE use it against Aizen? Even though he probably was too weak compared to Aizen, the fact that he didn't use it is weird.

I always thought that Isshin was this badassly powerful shinigami. Somehow his cape made me think he was some sort of royal guard or something. I can only hope that his powers haven't completely awakened or something, since he supposedly lost them or something.

-end of rant-

lelouch
Wed, 12-15-2010, 01:14 PM
Zaraki is the only one to have ever made Captain level without bankai.



......Where is everyone elses bankai? None of the vaizards used it, Urahara isn't using it, Ishin isn't using it...

UChessmaster
Wed, 12-15-2010, 01:57 PM
Ukitake didn`t used it, Kyoraku didn`t used it.

David75
Wed, 12-15-2010, 02:34 PM
Aizen didn't use it either...

DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-15-2010, 03:18 PM
There is something that kind of bugs me in this episode. The fact that Isshin uses the Getsuga tenshou makes me think that it's just a 'basic' zanpaktou move, and not a Zangetsu specific one. Nobody was surpised when Isshin used it. No 'how the hell did he use MY technique' type of expression at all.I guess you're right. It didn't even occur to me to question it. In fact I'd assumed we'd seen him use it already. I guess I just assumed it was hereditary.



......Where is everyone elses bankai? None of the vaizards used it, Urahara isn't using it, Ishin isn't using it...Is Youruichi even carrying her Zanpaktou?

Seems like they wanted to make is feel like everyone was going all out, but are saving the Bankai's of the most powerful characters for some future arc.

Do we even know if the Visoreds have Bankai's? I suppose some of them have to since they used to be Captains...

Archangel
Wed, 12-15-2010, 03:39 PM
Seems like they wanted to make is feel like everyone was going all out, but are saving the Bankai's of the most powerful characters for some future arc.
It's called bad writing.

anime nomad
Wed, 12-15-2010, 04:32 PM
Zaraki is the only one to have ever made Captain level without bankai.
......Where is everyone elses bankai? None of the vaizards used it, Urahara isn't using it, Ishin isn't using it...

Aizen is still fighting @ Shikai level, by Shonen Rules - the first one to power up losses the battle , i.e. its always the bad guy that uses his power up first, then the hero comes along with his super power up to blow him away. besides its bad form to fight a Shikai with bankai - makes you look weak.

Proof that Gins Eyes are not just folds of skin in his head.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj179/lycantha/asdCapture.jpg

Kraco
Wed, 12-15-2010, 05:57 PM
The only fricking thing Ichigo excels at is to listen to his enemies' words and take them to heart.

Jessper
Thu, 12-16-2010, 01:54 AM
Proof that Gins Eyes are not just folds of skin in his head.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj179/lycantha/asdCapture.jpg

This shot was awesome, I'm more of a Gin fan each week as of late.

Killa-Eyez
Thu, 12-16-2010, 04:54 AM
If something's filler, does that mean it isn't necessarily true? Cause if I recall right, the DiamondDust Rebellion movie showed that multiple identical Zanpakutous can co-exist, i.e. Hyourinmaru. Wouldn't that explain Isshin's use of the Getsuga Tenshou-move? But everyone not using their Bankais is kinda peculiar. Though a reasonable but lame explaination could be that since they can't feel Aizen's reiatsu anyway, they find it useless to use their Bankais? Yet that reasoning should keep them from fighting at all.
It doesn't make sense. And wtf's up with Aizen's Tarzan hair? Apparently the Hōgyoku is a hair growth agent. SSJ much?

@anime nomad: I wanted to post a screen of that too. Epic moment! :p

Archangel
Thu, 12-16-2010, 08:23 AM
This shot was awesome, I'm more of a Gin fan each week as of late.
You're in for a real treat :D

redcat
Thu, 12-16-2010, 12:14 PM
not feeling aizen's pressure is just more kubo writing anyway. whenever someone has been far above someone elses level they've collapsed under the heavy weight of their spiritual pressure they've felt. like when nanao was there when the captain commander was going to fight those 2 captains.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 12-17-2010, 07:55 AM
not feeling aizen's pressure is just more kubo writing anyway. whenever someone has been far above someone elses level they've collapsed under the heavy weight of their spiritual pressure they've felt. like when nanao was there when the captain commander was going to fight those 2 captains.Yeah, that's like saying that sun is SO bright you can't even see it!

Although, if it was bright enough, it would make you go blind, so then you wouldn't see it...

David75
Fri, 12-17-2010, 11:59 AM
Yeah, that's like saying that sun is SO bright you can't even see it!

Although, if it was bright enough, it would make you go blind, so then you wouldn't see it...

You could always use the radioactivity parallel... with usual reiatsu levels being Bêta(-) radioactivity and Aizen+Ichigo being in the gamma type at high energy levels. Both types are very different.
But that's really spliting hair and way too much thought, just as Kubo never planned :D

Vorlath
Sun, 12-19-2010, 02:06 AM
I like how they're not even hiding the fact that Ichigo is weak. But unfortunately, he's also very strong that he can sense Aizen's spiritual pressure. Soooo.... Ichigo is a coward is what they're trying to tell us. The hero of 300+ episodes is a coward. Thank you very much!

"Just go home, man. You're boring the hell out of me. Just go." -Gin (paraphrased)

Kraco
Sun, 12-19-2010, 05:08 AM
Trying to tell? Your standards are far too high. As far as I'm concerned, Kubo succeeded with 100% efficiency. I have rarely witnessed a shounen main character as unwilling to do what must be done so far along the road, despite having unheard of power. Or so demented that he already forgot in this fight there are only two choices: Win and save everybody or lose and die with the rest. There's no third alternative.

DarthEnderX
Sun, 12-19-2010, 05:49 AM
Or so demented that he already forgot in this fight there are only two choices: Win and save everybody or lose and die with the rest. There's no third alternative.I dunno, so far Aizen hasn't actually killed very many people(the only ones I can think of for sure are a few nameless people during the 100 years ago arc). I get the distinct impression he would probably kill a lot less people if they'd just stop getting in his way.

Well, except the people in Karakura town that he's going to melt down into a key of course.

Kraco
Sun, 12-19-2010, 07:53 AM
I can't deny the truthfulness of that but still I'd like to think it's only due to the fact this is a mainstream shounen show, where too few named characters die (on the good guys' side anyway). But still, Ichigo is a human (though with a hybrid engine) so why wouldn't he get melted with the rest of the folks if Aizen actually got down to it?

Harima Kenji
Mon, 12-20-2010, 05:11 PM
I dunno, so far Aizen hasn't actually killed very many people(the only ones I can think of for sure are a few nameless people during the 100 years ago arc).

Didn't he squash Tousen a few episodes back?
Now he wasn't that big a character, but still..

Vorlath
Tue, 12-21-2010, 03:53 PM
Trying to tell? Your standards are far too high. As far as I'm concerned, Kubo succeeded with 100% efficiency.

True! I'm just in shock that Kubo would go this far. In the past, you could always ignore that he was a coward because Ichigo used to win his fights with Hichigo, or somehow pulled through. But now, he's just standing still. You gotta admit that before this, he'd at least attack or DO something. I seem to remember him having a "never give up" attitude even if he kept getting pushed down.

But you're right. There's no way to deny it anymore. Can't even make excuses.