Bleach 295

[Killa-Eyez]

[HorribleSubs] Bleach - 295 [480p] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=170239)
[HorribleSubs] Bleach - 295 [720p] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=170242)

Great, a recap. Like we've forgotten what made Bleach once so awesome, it's like the only thing clinging me to this yoga-stretched anime. Aizen's cocky as ever and Itsugo's still boring. Didn't mind watching it though. :o

[David75]

[HorribleSubs] Bleach - 295 [480p] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=170239)
[HorribleSubs] Bleach - 295 [720p] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=170242)

Great, a recap. Like we've forgotten what made Bleach once so awesome, it's like the only thing clinging me to this yoga-stretched anime. Aizen's cocky as ever and Itsugo's still boring. Didn't mind watching it though. :o

Yeah, they remind us how they've been trolling us for so long after the SS arc...

[Kraco]

My vocabulary doesn't stretch beyond utterly ridiculous so I can't comment on this episode and especially what it revealed about Aizen's plans.

[Archangel]

Aizen surely planned a lot, didn't he?

He sure does Kraco, he sure does...

[DarthEnderX]

Oh, now I get it. Just as Aizen planned. That's funny.

Actually it's not but apparently half the board thinks it's hilarious.

[Jessper]

Oh, now I get it. Just as Aizen planned. That's funny.

Actually it's not but apparently half the board thinks it's hilarious.

I always enjoy episodes where the thing we've been told by Manga readers for months suddenly makes sense.

[kmkze04]

Did I catch a glimpse of Ichigo's dad in the preview?
I was wondering when he'd show up, along with Urahara and Uryuu's dad. I mean, Urahara can't possibly have gone that long without coming up with some sort of countermeasure against the Hougyoku.

But, all in all, I'm curious to see Kurosaki's dad's real strength. Hopefully they don't come out with something utterly ridiculous for his Zanpakuto... like another Bazookai or flower petal thing... Given his humor I wouldn't be surprised if it was a giant dildo or something.

[Endrance]

Skipped the recap. Without it I downloaded around 3,5 minutes of actual material. Only 1 minute of that 3,5 minutes showed us something new, namely that Aizen snapped the power-marble onto himself which apparently gives him the ability to heal himself. Everything else was just the usual subarashi jabbering by Aizen.

So I just downloaded 1 minute of material containing new information, which included looking at nude parts of a man's body... .. .


Thinking positive, that's still better than a filler. *shrug*

[Vorlath]

The power marble? HAHAHA!!! I like it.

And Aizen's planning and the comments about them aren't irony. It's an inside joke. Right now, it's just a joke. A bad one. Unfortunately, it does make some sense as to why Aizen let Ichigo live when he left Soul Society.

So I guess Aizen can only be defeated if he loses all his marbles?

OK, I'll bite. Why did Aizen let Ichigo become powerful and get a hollow form?

[DarthEnderX]

Isn't the "Just as planned" line co-opted from Death Note anyway?

[Archangel]

Oh, now I get it. Just as Aizen planned. That's funny.

Actually it's not but apparently half the board thinks it's hilarious.
Anyone ever told you you're a real buzzkill?

[DarthEnderX]

Anyone ever told you you're a real buzzkill?I suppose if going "JUST AS AIZEN PLANNED! HUR HUR HUR!!!" every week for a year gives you a buzz, then yeah, I'm a buzzkill.

[Endrance]

That's still better than genuinely liking horse poo, which sometimes is entertaining to watch, because it's so bad and sometimes is just so bad, it makes me cry instead. Seriously, I rather have people writing those comments, because that tells me if I can laugh about it. It often saves me a 20 minutes facepalm.

I still don't get how you can ignore all the bullshit and actually like it. You must either be really good at self-control or you're really just that undemanding.

[DarthEnderX]

I dunno. I guess I'm just one of the few people that hadn't somehow convinced myself that Kubo was fucking Shakespear during previous arcs.

He's a shounen writer. This shit's no stupider than DBZ, and I like DBZ, so why wouldn't I like this?

[humpburger]

What I don't get is how someone who doesn't "actually" like the show, watches it for 100ths of episodes, even downloading it. It's kind of weird...

[David75]

What I don't get is how someone who doesn't "actually" like the show, watches it for 100ths of episodes, even downloading it. It's kind of weird...

Stockholm syndrome or the likes of it.
You know you hate the thing, you know you are now free if you will, but you can't detach yourself from it.

[DarthEnderX]

What I don't get is how someone who doesn't "actually" like the show, watches it for 100ths of episodes, even downloading it. It's kind of weird...When asked directly, they'll tell you it's for that "so bad it's good" That it's just something for them to make fun of.

Until you realize they've probably wasted more of their lives on this series alone than the MST3K guys did on a whole career of mocking bad movies. And at least the MST3K guys have something to show for it.

[Dark Dragon]

I think the soul society arc just fooled a lot of people into thinking that this series is better than it actually is. Then they just didn't take it very well when the plot revert into DBZ level silliness.

[Endrance]

I dunno. I guess I'm just one of the few people that hadn't somehow convinced myself that Kubo was fucking Shakespear during previous arcs.

He's a shounen writer. This shit's no stupider than DBZ, and I like DBZ, so why wouldn't I like this?
DBZ is different. It never even tried. It was all about manliness, solidarity (in a way that is uncomplicated but makes sense, unlike the ingenuius plan of Orihime for example) and gar. And it was really good at that. Be honest. Who hasn't tried this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhhnN2Nlo28) at least once?
Bleach is based on this stupid pseudo-intellectual psycho talk and really, really weird fights. DBZ had stupid talk, too. No doubt. But it never tried to be intellectual. That's not what this anime was about and that's also why the teamfourstar parody is so awesome. And everybody knows the over 9000 scene, which pretty much described the whole anime. You'd even think I'm wasting my time posting here also, but it's entertaining to me, too. As long as that's the case, why stop doing it?


When asked directly, they'll tell you it's for that "so bad it's good" That it's just something for them to make fun of.

Until you realize they've probably wasted more of their lives on this series alone than the MST3K guys did on a whole career of mocking bad movies. And at least the MST3K guys have something to show for it.
Hey! I've always skipped the intro and outro! Bleach sometimes entertains me, just in a different way from yours. If you call this wasted, then you've wasted your time as well.


What I don't get is how someone who doesn't "actually" like the show, watches it for 100ths of episodes, even downloading it. It's kind of weird...
Schadenfreude. I even watched the last Bleach filler arc together with a friend and it was so bad, fucking hilarious. Especially how Byakuya has planned stuff and shit or how Kenpachi could suddenly Shunpo around lmao. We laughed so hard that episode. Or the one the captains closed the Garganta with their Reiatsu and the one which had this super dramatic/awesome background music for killing a few menos you expect to happen in the final duel between two main characters. LOL


Stockholm syndrome or the likes of it.
You know you hate the thing, you know you are now free if you will, but you can't detach yourself from it.
I know what you mean, but that's not the case with Bleach for me. I really only watch it because it's so ridiculous, which often (not always) makes it hilarious. Trust me, I dropped alot of anime because they were simply non-entertaining. These past two episodes were real garbage though. But I couldn't know that, so I watched them anyway. Although I dropped all of the recap, which kinda made 7/8 of the whole episode. So maybe I can't even say I watched them. Funny thing is we dropped the Bleach filler episode not long ago (the oriental one) which was supposed to be funny, but really wasn't. Well, I watched some parts of it, but decided not to recommend it to my friends, you know, for the lulz.


I think the soul society arc just fooled a lot of people into thinking that this series is better than it actually is. Then they just didn't take it very well when the plot revert into DBZ level silliness.
I don't think it fooled me, because it was good. But they went overboard after that with pretty much everything. Aizen should have died in an epic battle back then, but they decided to stretch the chewed gum that had lost it's flavor at that point.

[DarthEnderX]

DBZ is different. It never even tried. It was all about manliness, solidarity (in a way that is uncomplicated but makes sense, unlike the ingenuius plan of Orihime for example) and gar. And it was really good at that. Be honest. Who hasn't tried this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhhnN2Nlo28) at least once?
Bleach is based on this stupid pseudo-intellectual psycho talk and really, really weird fights. DBZ had stupid talk, too. No doubt. But it never tried to be intellectual. That's not what this anime was about and that's also why the teamfourstar parody is so awesome. And everybody knows the over 9000 scene, which pretty much described the whole anime.I really just never saw Bleach that way.

I mean, you describe something like the "over 9000" scene, and I don't see any difference between that scene and the one where Ichigo shows up to save Rukia and beats 3 Vice Captains with his bare hands in a matter of seconds.

[humpburger]

I think the soul society arc just fooled a lot of people into thinking that this series is better than it actually is. Then they just didn't take it very well when the plot revert into DBZ level silliness.

I guess people had high expectations for Bleach and it didn't measure up. To me, Bleach has always been the same. Aizen/Gin is the new Bakuya/Rengi and Soul King is the new Aizen of the Rukia arc, and most likely all (survived) foes end up allies. Not to mention Ichigo's ridiculous level-ups throughout the entire show.

Also someone out there is seriously trolling my "rep" panel. I love it. ^_^

Bring it on BIATCH!! Papa needs me some of dem red boxes! LOL

[DarthEnderX]

Hah, you actually read your rep panel? I think the last time I even saw mine was whenever I last changed my avatar.

It's pretty much just a way for dipshits to call you names anonymously.

[humpburger]

I think they're hilarious. Somehow I'm such a significant to someone that they had to spam my rep with the same comment over and over just to clarify it's the same person doing it.

Also being the only person with 10 red bars look pretty badass too but I'm not really aiming for anything. Underachiever all the way baby.

[Kraco]

All that rep talk got old years ago so save it to the Pit if you must insist on doing it.

Edit: In case somebody failed to understand my cryptic message above (like he who got his spam post deleted did), this is a Bleach thread, not a reputation discussion thread.

[Endrance]

I really just never saw Bleach that way.

I mean, you describe something like the "over 9000" scene, and I don't see any difference between that scene and the one where Ichigo shows up to save Rukia and beats 3 Vice Captains with his bare hands in a matter of seconds.
You're completely right. I see why you might still like Bleach, because you did not understand to differentiate the impact of genuinely well made, although simple, plot structures and those that are just plain fucking stupid. Bleach was like DBZ before and that was fine. But it turned by 180° and seriously overdid it with all it's pseudo-intellectual crap talk. It feels like Kubo is trying to give us the impression that Bleach goes really deep with all this overly emotional crap (kinda reminds me of FFXIII), but he fails so fucking hard it hurts. At the beginning, almost every new episode was actually well balanced in terms of explanations, fights and social acts. A little drama here and there, but now people turn all emo in seconds (especially Ichigo). It didn't need all of this really poorly made relationship drama crap. Now it's turned into some kind of abstracted hotchpotch of ridiculous (the bad /faceplam kind) reasonings and is even worse in the execution of that.

In DBZ people either just protected a planet or intended to destroy/rule it. Simple stuff, but it worked. In Bleach... nobody really knows. And even if something is sometimes explained, it usually either doesn't make any sense at all or makes me think that everyone but a few exceptions such as Kenpachi or Yamamoto are fucking morons. Especially Tousen (how was he able to use someone else's Katana that is made of one's soul and can only by used by that person again?) and Orihime. Granted, we knew from the start she wasn't Einstein, but her ingenius plan of getting catched by Aizen on purpose made me spit out my soda.

[DarthEnderX]

You're completely right. I see why you might still like Bleach, because you did not understand to differentiate the impact of genuinely well made, although simple, plot structures and those that are just plain fucking stupid.Yeah, maybe that's what happened.

Bleach has been full of melodrama since all the way back with the first appearance of King Fisher. And that was back when everyone still thought it was amazing.

If your complaint is now suddenly "Bleach was better back when it was more like DBZ", well, Bleach is more like DBZ now than ever before. As evidenced by the "hundred episodes of nonstop fighting with almost no plot advancement"

[Archangel]

DarthEnder's point is that, unlike some of us, he never did have much expectations for this show. When you think about it his was probably the smartest approach.

I will say this though, no matter how low my expectations were i never could have predicted how randomly shitty this series would become.

[DarthEnderX]

DarthEnder's point is that, unlike some of us, he never did have much expectations for this show.Well said.

From the beginning this series has been "DBZ + swords + much better animation" to me.

Well, maybe not since the very beginning, but by the time Kenpachi vs. Ichigo rolled around, that's the opinion I'd cemented in my mind. That this series was about awesome sword fights and a very loose excuse to have as many of them as possible.

I felt this way way more about Bleach than I did about, say, Naruto or One Piece, both of which I considered "DBZ + ninjas/pirates + much better stories and characters". I've never felt that way about Bleach. I've always felt Bleach's storyline was mildly more involved than DBZ's, but that even that was just a pretense for the fights.

[Vorlath]

Well, I gave up on Naruto once it went to fillers and then they got older or something. I really don't care on going back. There are similarities between the shows. Rasengan vs. Getsuga Tensho. The allies that hate him, but are still more powerful (Sasuke and Byakuya). The friend that is way powerful (Lee and Kenpachi). The girl sidekick (Sakura and Rukia). The large chested teacher or Lieutenant. The evil super powerful bad guy (Orochimaru and Aizen). You can mix and match several different ways, but the recipe was the same. What I did like about Naruto was that they actually learned new techniques from time to time. In fact, there was a time when they showed different characters learning. But unfortunately, Rasengan was seemed to be the only game in town just like Ichigo is a one hit wonder.

For me, I stuck with Bleach because of the fights. I was hoping for something more from the Vizards. Disapointed, but there was a lot in the Bleach universe that held promise at the time. Now, I'm just gonna see what happens since I'm this far into it.

[DarthEnderX]

The evil super powerful bad guy (Orochimaru and Aizen).We call that guy Madara in Naruto. Orochimaru turned out to be less of an Aizen and more of a Szayel Aporro Granz.