TV: Doctor Who

[Archangel]

http://i.imgur.com/08mWM24.jpg


Doctor Who is a British science fiction television program produced by the BBC. The program depicts the adventures of a mysterious, humanoid alien known as the Doctor who travels through time and space in his spacecraft, the TARDIS (an acronym for Time And Relative Dimensions In Space), which normally appears from the exterior to be a blue 1950s British police box. With his companions, he explores time and space, faces a variety of foes and rights wrongs.

Anyone else familiar with the show? Season 5 just started and i loved the premiere, felt like discussing it with other fans.

[Death BOO Z]

I've been watching for some time... mostly the 1-3 seasons, and bits of the 4th.
but like StarTrek, Starwars or Buffy\Angel, there's far too much material (40 seasons total? too many books and radio scripts?) for me to make the effort to follow it.

it's still a great show. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDn1PLzQvGo)

[poopdeville]

Yeah, I've seen all of the new stuff, except this season. It's really good. Cheesy sci-fi, but they get away with it because the characters are good, and the story lines are interesting enough. Some of the longer arcs are just plain excellent.

You should try to watch the first seasons (of the new stuff), though I guess there's been a big enough break in continuity since those that season 5 could make sense on its own.

In short, the Doctor is like a cat. He has 10 lives. Each time he dies, he is re-incarnated with a new body. I think this is the 9th or 10th. They went through a couple of lives in the last few seasons. Also, semi-spoiler... the Doctor fought in a 'time war' against the Daleks. The Time Lords and the Daleks basically wiped each other out. The Doctor is thought to be the last of the Time Lords.

There's also a couple of spin off shows. Torchwood, and a show meant for kids. I haven't watched the kids show, but the characters show up in Doctor Who at key moments. Same with Torchwood (in fact, you find out the origins of Torchwood in the first season after the "reboot"ish thing that happened)

[poopdeville]

I kind of figured the Doctor would come out of the Pandoricum, not go into it, since it supposedly contained the most feared warrior in the universe.

[poopdeville]

That was a nice happy ending, but it was too much like the Bad Wolf arc.

[Archangel]

I felt the finale made time travel more confusing than ever

I think there were paradoxes inside the paradoxes on this one

[poopdeville]

Season 6 opened on Sunday with a great episode. "The Impossible Astronaut, pt 1". Looks like at least a two-part arc.

[Archangel]

It was great yeah, but compared to the last premier...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arAjbSkKF-Q

I mean come on, how do you compete with THAT?

[Animeniax]

I want to get into this show but I'm tired of British accents. I do want to get one of these though:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/tardis_hub.gif

[Sapphire]

Watch from Series 1 Ani.

[Animeniax]

Unless they aren't British in series (season?) 1, I'll have to wait until my current "British accents are obnoxious" phase.

[rockmanj]

Unless they aren't British in series (season?) 1, I'll have to wait until my current "British accents are obnoxious" phase.

What sort of weird shit is that? You sound like my English friends who say that Americans don't speak "English".

I am thinking about getting into Dr. Who, but not sure if I want to go down that rabbit hole yet. I did watch "Torchwoord Children of Earth", and I enjoyed that a lot, so I may give the show from which it was spun off a try.

[Sapphire]

Just don't watch the Sarah Jane series, its terrible. Doctor Who is fun until Series 5, then it just goes off the rocker amazing.

Series 1-6+ is the "reboot," the "seasons" are the old episodes. There's some interesting clips of that, so I ought to check it out...

[Animeniax]

What sort of weird shit is that? You sound like my English friends who say that Americans don't speak "English".

Not really the same thing. It's not what they say, it's how they say it with their snooty accents that bothers me.

[rockmanj]

Not really the same thing. It's not what they say, it's how they say it with their snooty accents that bothers me.

Well, to be fair, they did create the language and by that definition, we (non-English English speakers) would have the "derivative" accents.

[Animeniax]

Well, to be fair, they did create the language and by that definition, we (non-English English speakers) would have the "derivative" accents.

While that may be true, it's still irrelevant to my transitory preference against British accents. Weird thing is, I think it's because of some recent videos I've seen with Ricky Gervais, whose material I usually like. Plus Gordon Ramsey, and any of the other smarmy Brits on TV.

[poopdeville]

Just don't watch the Sarah Jane series, its terrible. Doctor Who is fun until Series 5, then it just goes off the rocker amazing.

Sarah Jane "really" is a kids show.

I get kind of annoyed by some of the "fillerish" episodes, especially in S5. We didn't really need a two-parter about dinosaurs in S5. And the S3 episode about the stone angels was way better than the S5 one. But the arc episodes in S5 were awesome. Bad Wolf is the only comparable arc (and BW might relate to the paradoxes in S5).

On the other hand, some of the fillerish stuff is great. I really liked the episode that introduced Dr. Sung, for example. The first stone angels was really good. The Ood episodes are cool.

[Sapphire]

The Bad Wolf arc was terrible compared to some of Davies later stuff.

The episode where they were on their way to the crystal city, and everyone was paranoid, was excellent.

[Archangel]

Episode 2: Amy is such a hoe

[poopdeville]

Eh, the Doctor already has a daughter. It could be her instead of Amy's kid.

[Archangel]

Yeah, and the pregnant/not pregnant scan was just a red herring? I'm not buying it.

[poopdeville]

I didn't say Amy wasn't pregnant. I said the mystery girl could be the Doctor's daughter -- i.e., the one we know about already.

This show is FULL of red herrings.

[Sapphire]

It's totally Amy's daughter. Amy was all "well my kid can have a...time head or something." Try time LORD body!

We're forgetting the fact that Amy's like ...WHO ARE YOU?!?! And has this hardcore dramatic connection with the girl, so she's probably her daughter. Babies are boring, though, so maybe they'll just age her like a mofo...

And what's up with Amy treating Rory like crap?! Hands off Doctor Who, bitch, he belongs to River Song!

My roommate thinks it's The Rani (apparently the female enemy of the Doctor).

Fuck! My roommate just told me a choice River Song spoiler.

[poopdeville]

I'm about to watch "The Doctor's Wife". I'm excited to see it. My long-term long shot guess: River is Amy's mom (remember, Amy grew up with her aunt and uncle). The kid is Amy. Amy is half Time Lord.

This explains how they got out of the paradox when the Tardis blew up. It explains how Rory-the-robot remembered Amy. Amy is a fixed point in time, because she causes herself to be born.

The Doctor already said that the whole saga is about what makes Amy special, and why the Tardis found her in particular.

Also, Rose Tyler will be back, because Bad Wolf is not over yet. (It "can't" be, because Rose touched all of space and time)

[Archangel]

... they made out you sick fuck!

And Rose Tyler will most likely not be coming back, she's done.

[poopdeville]

I've heard that before. And it was always wrong.

[Archangel]

Looking forward to the next episode, we'll finally find out River's true identity.

[Sapphire]

I'm about to watch "The Doctor's Wife". I'm excited to see it. My long-term long shot guess: River is Amy's mom (remember, Amy grew up with her aunt and uncle). The kid is Amy. Amy is half Time Lord.

That's pretty amazing. Also, The Doctors Wife episode was brilliant.

[Archangel]

Well can't say i didn't see that one coming and neither can i say i'm happy that prediction came true. Kind of creepy...

I wonder how the Doctor took the Time Lord out of her, she was definitely a human when we saw her die.

[poopdeville]

Watching it now. Holy shit Rory is a serious bad ass.

[Uchiha Barles]

That link DeathBooZ posted on the first page had me laughing almost to death. Downloading the series now, beginning with the 2005 season.

[Animeniax]

I just started watching this series at season 5 with the 11th doctor and his companion, Amy Pond. The first two episodes were underwhelming, but likeable. I think this show is a lot like Quantum Leap, but without the compulsion to save the day before moving on to the next episode.

I'll admit that the Amy Pond character is a big reason I enjoy this episode, as she is hot and likeable whereas the Doctor is cold, scientific, and "holier than thou". But I hope there's more to this series that will make it worth watching than just the babelicious eye candy.

[Shadow Skill]

I keep hoping that will explore the Time Lord myth and let the doctor return to a time days before the war starts and manage to save more of his people. Who knows what the final doctor will do or what they write about the so-called last doctor. Probably be sort of continuity error that lets the doctor live on forever.

[Animeniax]

With a mythos as wide and varying as Doctor Who explores, I'm sure it will be easy for them to explain new Doctors in new series until the end of (real) time. It's kind of like the reboot of Star Trek with the new young cast. A time travel/space anomaly event changes the space/time continuum and now a new history is told.

Sadly, I hear Amy Pond will not return for season 7 of the show.

[poopdeville]

S7E1 is out. What the hell is up with Rory and Amy?

Ah, well that answers that.

[Shadow Skill]

Not sure what this episode means. A future continuity climax that the doctor will undoubtdly "Fix" by making them remember. :/

[poopdeville]

"Only my balls"

*facepalm*

[Archangel]

I'm about to watch "The Doctor's Wife". I'm excited to see it. My long-term long shot guess: River is Amy's mom

Haha, epic fail.

[poopdeville]

Haha, epic fail.

You mean replying to an 18 month old post? Or disagreeing with yourself? Either way, not so hot.

[Archangel]

I never agreed with you, and i just noticed it now so yeah 18 months too late on calling you out on YOUR FAILURE.

It fails because you were so close and yet so far :/

[poopdeville]

...and neither can i say i'm happy that prediction came true...


"So close" is good enough for you to agree. I suppose you just have problems with reading comprehension, and that would excuse your post. Fair enough, I can't blame you for that.


so yeah 18 months too late on calling you out on YOUR FAILURE.


Yes, 18 months too late. But whatever, it's just the internet, and "MY FAILURE" was better than you did. Also note: I called it a "long term, long shot" guess. But hey, feel free to confirm your reputation.

[Archangel]

I love how you're trying to make a big deal out of this, talk about petty.

Aaaaaanyway, the first episode of the new season was great if a bit too obvious. Second episode was fairly average and i was a little surprised to how eager the Doctor was to kill that guy. Long gone are the days of the 10th i guess.

[poopdeville]

I love how you're trying to make a big deal out of this, talk about petty.

That is such an obvious rhetorical ploy. Accuse me of doing what you yourself have done, in order to deflect the situation you created. Now you are "free" to claim the moral high ground, since I am "continuing" the argument. Except, I am calling you for your rhetoric.

I'd call derailing the conversation by quoting somebody and saying nothing but "haha, epic fail" 18 months after the fact very petty. Responding to point that out is not. Responding to point out that you agreed at the time is not. Quoting your agreement is not. Calling me petty for an appropriate response and then ending the conversation by switching back to the topic I was already talking about (i.e. current Doctor Who) petty.

But, this is the internet, and you are free to say what you want. Continue confirming your reputation.

[Archangel]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d700aee30f222e2455341067c76189d3/tumblr_mpc5z6vmt61qa0x69o1_1280.jpg

[poopdeville]

Bad wolf...

Peter Capaldi as Doctor 13 is pure win.

[Animeniax]

Seems a little old to be the next doctor... plus he's on a bit of a short leash with only 13 episodes. If fans don't like him, he'll be replaced after one season.

On a side note, Karen Gillan did a terrible job this season on NTSF:SD:SUV. Whodathought she could almost ruin a show?

[poopdeville]

Capaldi's age is a pretty good point. I was thinking that he might bring on a more serious Doctor, like Eccleston did. But now that they've finally explained how the Doctors fixed the Time War and actually saved the Time Lords from extinction, the Doctor should actually be happy-go-lucky and fun, with no reservation.

Actually, while the Time War was handled in an alright manner, it makes the End of Time specials (the one with the Master and Timothy Dalton) a little weird. Yeah, we knew Gallifrey was locked in a moment of time in a pocket universe. But it seems like the showrunner didn't know that being locked up would clear the Doctor's conscience. Especially since he didn't even consider setting the Time Lords free.

But, Capaldi is a huge badass. Check out "The Thick of It", a BBC show about British politics (or even "In the Loop", a movie about British/American politics). I hope he was type cast.

[Shadow Skill]

I enjoyed it. Have to remember, took 50 years in our time for this conclusion, now he can search for Gallifrey which is now apparently lost. :P I think that might open up a lot more possible story lines and maybe/hopefully interesting story lines.

400 years for the doctor and I like how they used that to pass down the centuries to work out mathemathical calculations lol.

[Archangel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpVUCv6q5Lg

[poopdeville]

Doctor Who S08E01:









Capaldi is the man. What the heck is going on with "heaven"? And another girlfriend?

[rockmanj]

The "attack eyebrows" are pretty amazing. I dig the darker tone it seems the Dr. is talking. Capaldi really hit his stride toward the end when he brought up murdering that robot. It is like he is actually starting to embrace who he is instead of pretending like he is a young man. I feel like 10 & 11 were almost "breather" incarnations to help rid himself of all the guilt he felt after the time war stuff. I know it is early, but 12 seems like he has realized what kind of person he is and is acting accordingly.


I also liked the end where The Doctor said that Clara looked at him and couldn't see him...that was some good acting from Capaldi.

[Shadow Skill]

Agreed! ^

[rockmanj]

Has anyone caught the new ep? It was pretty damn good. I like how utilitarian 12 is. Also, best line: "I am not a good Dalek...you are a good Dalek."

[poopdeville]

Didn't know it was out. Downloading now.

I really want 12 to go all Malcolm Tucker on some asshole villain. He doesn't even have to swear. But some really absurd, slickly written insults would be great.