Naruto Chapter 435

[Marik]

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[Psyke]

So one of the Peins DID become a frong. It's going to get interesting..... :p Kick ass chapter by the way.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

I never expected all of these people to really be dead. That is jacked up. And Naruto is getting his ass handed to him right now, looks like his power ups just werent enough this time. Great chapter.

[Paper]

I never expected all of these people to really be dead. That is jacked up. And Naruto is getting his ass handed to him right now, looks like his power ups just werent enough this time. Great chapter.


It seems Naruto is running out of moves with pein, I had a feeling one of the Peins would've turn into a frog :D. I'm still wondering if Kakashi is still alive because they never pronounce him dead but in the begining of the chapter cover it says he "stole Kakashi."

Naruto should make massive shadow clones and locate the real Pein but I don't think he would even give him a chance to do another jutsu but if he pulls it off he can easily retreat find Pein real body and at the same time that will give them and opening to heal the old man frog while Pein is chasing Naruto.

[RyougaZell]

He can't do massive clones because it would mess up the sage chakra gathering. He said he can't make more than 3 currently.

For a moment I was expecting Shizune to stand up as a new Pain.

[animus]

Everyone's dying, pretty awesome.

Something makes me think it's gonna be another stupid "Haha, you're caught in my genjutsu!". Unless the frog really did get owned that badly.

[Uchiha Barles]

It'd be nice to know just what that Rinnegan does pretty soon. I suppose this is Kishi's way of making up for explaining what the other dojutsu do so damned thoroughly, but enough already.

[Death BOO Z]

I've got an unsettling feeling that they're going to find the dead bodies of Payne and use them as mediums to send damaging chackra to harm (or at least interfere) Payne. maybe have inochi set a link to naruto, so that the konoha ninjas could send him chackra and restore his power.
that way he'll have the power of nature (the earth, the plants, and everything on earth) and of the people (who'll lend him their strength), and his victory would be due to teamwork!

also, it's surprising that papa-from never got to use his skill (illusion? what kind), but it's also the first time Payne has used taijutsu (he grabbed naruto and then slammed him to the ground).

great chapter. to sum it up.

[Patriot]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty good too. But we pretty much called the petrification of the Pein, that was easy to see. What i am hoping is that the real Pein gets away, and the reality would be that at any time he could come back reinforced to fight again. And they have to go search him out with no real clue or information.

And abandon this rule the world with the Jinjuriki arc. And start the going after sasuke one. That would be way better in my opinion.

And BOss frog is hurt bad, and the other ones don't look like they are gonna survive. WOW!

[Honoko]

Naruto's in a pinch and for once I'm not angry because he hasn't made any spectacularly stupid mistakes. Can't wait for the next chapter.

[Rikudo]

This would be really bad if Konan or even Zetsu already got to Kakashi's body on his way to become a Pain puppet. Since Pain will need new bodies, you might as well add Jiraiya and Itachi as candidates for the new uber Pain group.

[Uberbaka]

Hmm.. I still don't buy that the illusion failed...

And the "stole Kakashi" thing, any translation comments anyone wants to make on that? Could there be an upcoming KakaPein?

Nice to see some deaths though, I'd say it's beginning to make up for Chouji/Neiji's miracle survivals...

[Assertn]

nah....i'm sure madara is preserving itachi in case sasuke decides he wants his eyes

[Abdula]

Wait so Shizune died? I had to go back to 429 (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/04/) just to see what happened to her and I had to read this chapter twice just to understand what happened to Pa. I thought Naruto was a one trick pony, but for Ma and Pa to try and use the same jutsu they used on Pain before, that was just underestimating him. Pain isn't disappointing at all and although I was hoping for it I really wasn't expecting to see so much death.

The only gripe I have is with the Kakashi situation. With everyone dying what do they mean by Kakashi was stolen?

Btw props to the one who called Naruto reabsorbing more natural energy while he was motionless.

Oh and DBZ

but it's also the first time Payne has used taijutsu (he grabbed naruto and then slammed him to the ground).
This is the third time you've said this and it's the second time I'm telling you about it.

Great chapter overall. I don't know how I feel about Ino's dad suddenly solving the mystery of Pain but we'll see how that turns out.

[Rikudo]

nah....i'm sure madara is preserving itachi in case sasuke decides he wants his eyes


Well, Sasuke only needs Itachi's eyes and Pain only need the body. How about Akatsuki organ donor sharing?

[Assertn]

Great chapter overall. I don't know how I feel about Ino's dad suddenly solving the mystery of Pain but we'll see how that turns out.
It'll probably be something along the lines of "everyone, go find the corpse tower!"

[Archangel]

Man, God Realm's power is just absolutely off the charts. It's no wonder kakashi "died" facing him.

Next chapter is gonna have a talk between them, so it's probably going to be quite dull since all he's gonna do is ramble on and on how pain makes you superior and bla bla bla


It'll probably be something along the lines of "everyone, go find the corpse tower!"

He's probably gonna recover the black piercings off of pain's bodies or the ones he used as weapons to locate where the chakra is coming from

And ofc, i had to post this


Did he really say Pain was going to turn into a toad and did you really agree with him. Now thats the kind of crap that makes me wonder why I even bother to read these threads. Do you guys even know why Naruto turns into a frog in the first place. Freaking moronic ideas.

[Strider]

If you didn't, I was.

I'm liking all this death that is going around.

Kakashi returning as a body of Pain seems too good to be true. I'll continue hoping. Although, how would the body have been stolen? Is that what Konan has been doing all this time?

The dead bodies are still radiating with the chakra waves used to destroy the village. Ino's father is going to follow that frequency back to Nagato.

Or somehow his mind interrogation technique will work on the dead Pain they brought back at the beginning and we will see how that body became one of the six in the first place, along with Nagato's face.

Those are my completely useless theories.

[poopdeville]

Kakashi with a Sharingan and a Rinnegan and a backup supply of chakra would be epic. If Jiraiya and Kakashi become Pein bodies, Naruto really will have to surpass the previous generation.

And now that Pein has been exposed to natural energy, he might learn some senjutsu. Ouch.

I don't like that Pein is just one guy and a "puppet master". I hoped his story would be more interesting.

[Dansetsu]

Kakashi with a Sharingan and a Rinnegan and a backup supply of chakra would be epic. If Jiraiya and Kakashi become Pein bodies, Naruto really will have to surpass the previous generation.

And now that Pein has been exposed to natural energy, he might learn some senjutsu. Ouch.

I don't like that Pein is just one guy and a "puppet master". I hoped his story would be more interesting.Not to mention him also wearing an akatsuki coat. That would be the best thing for me to see. Although one rinnengan and another eye being sharingan would indeed be epic. I have to say that most of the people he grabbed as bodies don't seem to be that good at what they do. They each specialize but, it doesn't seem like they were chosen for that reason. I mean, whose to say that once the fat absorption body wasn't a specialist in something else all together? Do we even know if Nagato gave him that ability or was an ability that his village/clan etc was known for. That always bugged me ever since I saw that they were each good at something and had their own 5p3cl4lti35.

I would think that the certain abilities that they have are from previous times and were already there when they died and were brought to the Rain village for Nagato to stuff into a tube and slap an akatsuki coat on them.

[Assertn]

I've considered that as well.

After all, we've never seen Yahiko perform the god realm moves in Jiraiya's flashbacks.

[Death BOO Z]

Actually, I'm guessing towards six bodies being his limit. we already saw him having only six tubes of paynes, and if he was actually a puppeteer, then he's arsenal would probably be wider and he'd make sure to collect special ninjas a specimen, like how Sasori acted.

so far, the only important body we've seen was Yahiko's body, and nobody recognized the rest of the bodies (other than Inochi saying "that girl! she's a no name dead girl!"), so my guess is that Payne can divide his abilities between up to six bodies, and he needs some sort of cool-down time or a special surgery to get new payne-bodies running.

still, I think a Jiraya body would better fit Payne than Kakashi.

[Dansetsu]

so my guess is that Payne can divide his abilities between up to six bodies, and he needs some sort of cool-down time or a special surgery to get new payne-bodies running.

still, I think a Jiraya body would better fit Pein than Kakashi. That could also be true. Although that would mean his rinnengan gave him a huge portfolio of abilities instead of getting good at controlling other really talented ninjas with special abilities. I actually think that those ninjas were chosen for their abilities and skills and not just because the way they look or something. Like the one with the pure taiutsu and soul sucking, has that ability already in him when the corpse was sent to pain and he just happened to choose him because of that because it was essential to his recon, fighting and over all portfolio of strong jutsu to have.

I don't agree with you on the last comment. I still don't think Jiraiya would be stronger than a Kakashi body. Kakashi knows so many jutsus that he's able to fight anyone on almost any playing field no matter what ability they have. The best would be to have both at his disposal and then just go nuts with either of them. Having the two of them, would probably be the greatest thing in Naruto ever to happen in terms of a bad guy getting a power up. I mean could you imagine the shock when the two are summoned like when pain summoned the fat one and the long haired one with the soul sucking ability only Jiraiya and Kakashi? It would be epic. Plus, he would have another set of eyes to copy jutsu from. Granted we don't know if that would be pointless because of the rinnengan. But I still think having both would be best, but in the end, I think he'll end up getting one of them as a new body.

[poopdeville]

Jiraiya recognized several of the bodies as being people he killed.

[Death BOO Z]

Ok, my mistake, it wasn't a well conceived sentence.
what I meant to say is that the people Payne gathered as his bodies weren't special by themselves, they weren't famed for any sort of power or abilities they might have had (and no one in Konoha recognized the bodies as being famed ninjas), they were chosen because of previous knowledge and acquaintance they had with Payne (or someone close to Payne).

Sasori (and one piece: Moria), being a Puppeteer, gathered special ninjas as trophies for his doll army, that's not similar to Payne's behavior.

[Sidnne]

Either theory is plausible.

It kind of makes sense, and for an interesting story, if Pein chose bodies based on the abilities they possessed. How cool would that be if he just went around encountering ninja with useful abilities and making them his own? And it explains why Pein had grunts bringing a particular body to him, instead of just using one of the random grunts as a new body.

But, if that were the case, why would he need Akatsuki? Since he is so much stronger than everyone else (except maybe Madara), why doesn't he just kill them, take their bodies, and use their abilities? He could already have the sharingan if he wanted it because he could have killed Itachi and used his body.
Also, he doesn't seem too concerned that his bodies are being destroyed. If the bodies' themselves were the source of the abilities, then you'd think he would be a little upset to lose them; especially the one that resurrects the others. I'm sure he'd be more pissed if he just permanently lost the ability to resurrect his bodies, because the ability belonged that body alone.
Plus, Jiraiya encountered a few of the bodies before. He fought and killed them. If the abilities belonged to the bodies, while they were alive, wouldn't Jiraiya have already known their abilities?

[Dansetsu]

But, if that were the case, why would he need Akatsuki? He could already have the sharingan if he wanted it because he could have killed Itachi and used his body. Also, he doesn't seem too concerned that his bodies are being destroyed. Plus, Jiraiya encountered a few of the bodies before. He fought and killed them. If the abilities belonged to the bodies, while they were alive, wouldn't Jiraiya have already known their abilities? He doesn't need them. None of the agents in the group need the akatsuki. Does a rebel need a rebellion group? No, but they believe in the cause, and he's clearly S rank, so he joined. So far he's been fine in the choosing of bodies and getting stronger abilities from each one forming a well balanced team. So I really don't think he'll be having problems with people that he needs in the future if any at all (although I have to say, it's about time he used Jiraiya or at least get someone new for his roster) And Jiriya didn't say that he didn't remember or anything, he's old, and it's been a while. For all we know he fought those guys when he was in his mid 20's or 30's. That's a long time ago. Especially since he isn't in his prime anymore. Most of all, he was just worried about not being killed by them and their abilities. So I don't think he cared to have a mini flash back about his past battles. Although it is odd that he didn't recall any of their abilities I'll give you that one.

[Rikudo]

Jiraiya recognized several of the bodies as being people he killed.


I don't recall Jiraiya saying he killed those people. I thought he just had an encounter wiht them but not kill them.

[Rikudo]

He doesn't need them. None of the agents in the group need the akatsuki. Does a rebel need a rebellion group? No, but they believe in the cause, and he's clearly S rank, so he joined. So far he's been fine in the choosing of bodies and getting stronger abilities from each one forming a well balanced team.......

What makes you say Pain or anyone in Akatsuki don't need each other. Didn't they recruit Dedeira by force? Also, I think they needed strong enough people to collect all the bijuus(sp?).

I think everyone in Akatsuki have their own personal agenda. Joining the group at least makes it easier for them to achieve that goal.

As for Pain, I think he has a major weakness and Madara knows about it. Or either Madara is a master of manipulating people to do his bidding.

[Patriot]

Lots of ineteresting ideas out there. I remember when Inochi, was examining the captured ninja (the one Jiraya caught) while he was in his mind there was something about carrying bodies up into the Tower. So I am thinking something along the lines of a broadcast tower. Or if nothing else a tower that is the epicenter of his power. In other words, he can't control the bodies unless he is in that tower as something there augments it. Otherwise he would be too powerful. Or he would have swapped Jiraya's body with another Pein already. We also know that he can't just use a body that is dead and do a ninjitsu on the spot, either for convience or for another reason, it has to be brought to the tower before it is turned into a body of Pein, so at the very least, we know that Kakashi is not going to be a Pein body instantly. (I assume) I have some other ideas, but i want to see how this one pans out first.


http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-424/page006.html

About 4 pages confirms that it was Inochi and that conversation while they were in that guy's brain, first about carrying bodies and second about how no one else is allowed in there, and third that a rumor exits that Pein lives there.

Since we know that the 6 Pein bodies are not the "real" Pein, the above three things are beginning to carry weight until proven otherwise.

[Dansetsu]

Lots of ineteresting ideas out there. I remember when Inochi, was examining the captured ninja (the one Jiraya caught) while he was in his mind there was something about carrying bodies up into the Tower. So I am thinking something along the lines of a broadcast tower. Or if nothing else a tower that is the epicenter of his power. In other words, he can't control the bodies unless he is in that tower as something there augments it. Otherwise he would be too powerful. Or he would have swapped Jiraya's body with another Pein already. We also know that he can't just use a body that is dead and do a ninjitsu on the spot, either for convience or for another reason, it has to be brought to the tower before it is turned into a body of Pein, so at the very least, we know that Kakashi is not going to be a Pein body instantly. (I assume) I have some other ideas, but i want to see how this one pans out first.


http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-424/page006.html

About 4 pages confirms that it was Inochi and that conversation while they were in that guy's brain, first about carrying bodies and second about how no one else is allowed in there, and third that a rumor exits that Pein lives there.

Since we know that the 6 Pein bodies are not the "real" Pein, the above three things are beginning to carry weight until proven otherwise. I like the idea of getting control of the bodies through the tower. It makes sense. And I also think that it takes him a long time to do a jutsu on a body to get it as a new body with the rinnengan.