Soul Eater

[Archangel]

Holy shit, 2000 seeds??

Is the lack of subbers really that bad? I don't think Sef's subs are worthy of such attention -_-

[Nadouku]

Good episode, splendid candidate of misfortune and roundabouts. Medusa is such an overall evil person that she has the need to mess with other people's heads. Wicked.

Looks like Stein can no longer bear the madness within him, so lets see what he does next episode and beyond. :o

[boilerph]

How many episodes are left? They seem to be veering away from the manga significantly enough to be building up to a climax.

[Archangel]

How many episodes are left? They seem to be veering away from the manga significantly enough to be building up to a climax.

The anime is scheduled to air 51 episodes so 11 more.

Here's hoping for either an extension or a sequel.

[Nadouku]

Yea, hoping for another season or so before this season is over.

[Kraco]

Can't really say a whole lot happened in this episode. It was to be expected Medusa would walk away alive, but I was honestly expecting her to have more to do at the Shibusen than this. I mean, Shibusen would fight against both Kishin and Arache in any case so why did she need to go there just to get them to do what they would have done anyway? The Brew might be somehow trapped or Medusa learned something about it to make her to want to give it away. Maybe she knows what Shinigami is planning and plans to seize it later for herself.

Kishin has been somewhat underwhelming of late. He's totally nuts, yes, but still. I thought he would have a bit more active role.

[Archangel]

Lol i loved this episode

The Scene when Shinigami toys with chibi Medusa is hilarious. Chibi Medusa is way more entertaining than her grownup counterpart

Also the new ending is just pure win. The only thing i fear is that they're going for an ending "a la evangelion" and just nuke the place with madness. That would make it harder for a second season to exist.

[Buffalobiian]

I just totally loved the "Okay, let's set her free......SHINIGAMI CHOP!" :p

I agree with Kraco how not much really happened this episode. It felt a bit slow as it's pretty much a given Medusa will get her way. Shinigami and Spirit lightened things up a bit, but in the end was only comic relief. The end result was the same.

What really caught my attention was Spirit saying "Stein, go home. It's off limits here."

I understand that they'd want to keep Stein away in his current state, but talking like that really shows where people stand. Despite how Stein's been portrayed as the most capable Meister in all of Shibusen, and even in his stricken state is still much trusted by Shinigami, in the end it's the Deathscythes who are Shinigami's most trusted guards.

It could just be Spirit's way to snap Stein out of it and get him to leave for his own good. Both Stein and Sid hinted they knew more about what's going on than the average Death City goer. Still, I remember the scene where Sid revealed his loyalty lies with Shinigami, but was wondering himself why the demon tools were being collected at Shibusen.

[animus]

PUMPKIN PANTIES! :D

Maybe it's just me, but I'm kinda getting tired of Medusa's character. I did however like the little comedy moments. She didn't dare act sinister in front of someone like Shinigami-sama. The new ED had everyone, Shibusen and baddies included (even Kishin), except Shinigami. I guess that's a sign?

[Archangel]

Man i just read the manga till the current anime episode and it looks like they're now taking it on a whole different direction.

This sucks because the quality will surely diminish since the following episodes will basically be filler material and because it crushes my hopes for a season 2 :(

[Buffalobiian]

Did anyone else expect Mosquito to be super jealous seeing the Kishin huddle up that close to Arachne? I sure did.

Deviating from the manga always leaves a bad connotation. The last anime I saw that deviated at the end was Claymore, and that sucked hard.

[narutosharingan]

When did it show Maka's black blood disappearing?

[Buffalobiian]

When did it show Maka's black blood disappearing?

I don't remember the exact episode, but I think it was (quite a few eps) after Soul got infected, and a checkup on Maka showed she hadn't a trace of Black Blood in her.

Also, I think the imp commented on that too when they used Soul Resonance against Crona.

[Kraco]

I understand that they'd want to keep Stein away in his current state, but talking like that really shows where people stand. Despite how Stein's been portrayed as the most capable Meister in all of Shibusen, and even in his stricken state is still much trusted by Shinigami, in the end it's the Deathscythes who are Shinigami's most trusted guards.

It could just be Spirit's way to snap Stein out of it and get him to leave for his own good.

After Crona's confession they now know for sure Stein is deeply affected by the madness and more specifically also being driven crazy by Medusa. So, it would make sense to keep him away from Medusa.

[Archangel]

I don't remember the exact episode, but I think it was (quite a few eps) after Soul got infected, and a checkup on Maka showed she hadn't a trace of Black Blood in her.

Also, I think the imp commented on that too when they used Soul Resonance against Crona.

Yeah, it's probably due to her anti-demon abilities

[Archangel]

After Crona's confession they now know for sure Stein is deeply affected by the madness and more specifically also being driven crazy by Medusa. So, it would make sense to keep him away from Medusa.

I would also make more sense to keep him under close watch.


Deviating from the manga always leaves a bad connotation. The last anime I saw that deviated at the end was Claymore, and that sucked hard.

Spolier:

One of the things that already sucks is the Black Stars madness seems to become a more serious problem in the future, while in the anime it's probably not even going to be mentioned again.

Edit to bellow: Better?

[Ryllharu]

Watch it Archie. Just because you have read the manga doesn't mean that everyone still following this series has. I stopped reading after the Kishin was released and Medusa was killed, and I have no intention of going back to it until the anime has ended.

Buff, don't encourage him, you both should know better.

[narutosharingan]

I don't know if this is translation or something, but while I was watching, Medusa mentioned she wanted her and her "team" to be released. I wonder if Shinigami caught that, and I figured she meant Stein.

[Buffalobiian]

Buff, don't encourage him, you both should know better.

Where'd I do that? I simply deviating from existing material usually turns out badly.


I don't know if this is translation or something, but while I was watching, Medusa mentioned she wanted her and her "team" to be released. I wonder if Shinigami caught that, and I figured she meant Stein.

I wonder. I've always thought she mean Frog girl, Mouse girl and Free, maybe even Crona.

Stein never crossed my mind, but if he ever wanted to join her, he would definitely be considered "her team". I have a feeling it's a translation thing, and she probably meant "Me and my people"

[Archangel]

I wonder. I've always thought she mean Frog girl, Mouse girl and Free, maybe even Crona.

Stein never crossed my mind, but if he ever wanted to join her, he would definitely be considered "her team". I have a feeling it's a translation thing, and she probably meant "Me and my people"

But her team is still working undercover for the spider witch... -_-

[Buffalobiian]

Which is why she'd want them to have a safe place to turn to when their cover's blown. SEF's translation said Shibusen is to guarantee the safety of her team, not "release".

[Archangel]

Oh i get it

When they do attack the fortress, she must want to make sure that her team doesn't get in the middle of the fight

[narutosharingan]

Or at least Medusa's team doesn't suffer any retribution after the aftermath of the battle. An Immunity if you will.

[Buffalobiian]

[Hatsuyuki Fansub & Tsubaki Fansubs] Soul Eater - 41 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=47567)

[Kraco]

It was a pretty good depiction of Stein's cracking sanity.

I'm a little disappointed in how sloppily Shinigami seems to be handling things but with the growing emphasis on whatever he's building with BJ, perhaps he's just relying on that a lot.

[Buffalobiian]

Funny that his "way out" led him right to Medusa though. Interestingly enough, Medusa called Stein her "lover". Whether she's simply playing or if she harbors actual feelings towards him, who knows, she's been playing with him since forever. One thing I do know is that she could genuinely love him, since Crona had to come from somewhere.

Medusa probably traded the BREW off to Shibusen after she couldn't crack it. It's really "Medusa-like" to let others do the dirty work, then fish the rewards for herself later. You could argue that it's still a fake, but at least that explains why she was so willing to hand it over.

[Nadouku]

All these past episodes are pretty insane, and this one's no exception. Stein is still battling that crazy madness inside of him while Shibusen is concerned more on opening BREW. Next episode looks like action will be taken again and battle awaits.

[Munsu]

Just wondering, is the series still following the manga fairly closely?

[Marik]

Just wondering, is the series still following the manga fairly closely?

Not at all. It has completely diverged from the manga.

[Munsu]

Not at all. It has completely diverged from the manga.
Really? That sucks. I was hoping to start marathoning this, but that puts me off quite a bit. Do you know around what episode the series started going it's own path?

[Marik]

Started at the end of episode 36. 37 was an anime original and then it all went downhill from there.

[Archangel]

"Downhill" is a bit harsh -_-

The anime has taken some interesting twists that the manga didn't think of

Spoiler:

I didn't like how Black Star's insanity was so quickly dismissed, if they didn't want to follow up on it they shouldn't have presented it in the first place. On the other hand, the Stein-Medusa is sure to bring up some interesting situations in the future.

[Buffalobiian]

Hatsuyuki Fansub & Tsubaki Fansubs - Soul Eater 42 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=48782)

Do excuse me if we're dropping "Episode" from "Episode 42". Old habits die hard :p

[Inazuma]

Not enough DTK in here, meh episode to me.

[Kraco]

A somewhat intermediate episode with only preparations going on for the future action. But at least it looks like there won't be any group harmony or Soul piano playing helping Black Star this time. So, he better synchro with the demonic sword far better.

Even though I never read the manga anywhere this far, it still makes me sad to hear the show isn't following it anymore. It inevitably makes me think this is inferior already.

[Buffalobiian]

BJ is spending an awful amount of time in the basement/dark room I can't help but think he's building something critical to their plan. Desperate for some more Shinigami Chop, I hope it's some machine to uproot Death City or something.

[Nadouku]

Crona finally had the courage to go see Medusa, with Marie tagging along as well. Maka sulking didn't really help much, but I guess that's understandable, since a person like Crona has committed so much crimes that you can't feel anymore than pity for her. Other than that, nice preparation episode, although Giriko versus Justin seems like fate when they meet each other, like they were some rival or something.

[narutosharingan]

A somewhat intermediate episode with only preparations going on for the future action. But at least it looks like there won't be any group harmony or Soul piano playing helping Black Star this time. So, he better synchro with the demonic sword far better.

Even though I never read the manga anywhere this far, it still makes me sad to hear the show isn't following it anymore. It inevitably makes me think this is inferior already.

I've heard that while it's very much diverted from the manga, it still does a good job in comparison. People who've read the manga still like the anime.

I haven't read the manga, so I don't really know. But I certainly am enjoying what I've been watching.

I wonder if they will wrap things up at the end of the season, or continue it further.

[Buffalobiian]

About Justin Law X Rival, I don't know if I should be expecting a Sid vs Mifune fight, or a Mifune vs Black Star fight. I'd rather see the latter, since it'll really show how far Black Star's come along. Sid can tackle 400yr old Mosquito or something.

[Archangel]

I wonder if they will wrap things up at the end of the season, or continue it further.

Only if they go the same way FMA did by making a whole new anime since this version has diverged far too much from the manga for a sequel to be possible.


About Justin Law X Rival, I don't know if I should be expecting a Sid vs Mifune fight, or a Mifune vs Black Star fight. I'd rather see the latter, since it'll really show how far Black Star's come along. Sid can tackle 400yr old Mosquito or something.

It's definetely going to be black star vs mifune. As for mosquito, i have no idea who'll be fighting him, maybe the fire/thunder trio.

I was sure that Maka would be the one to kill the kenshin, it's strange that she just went away to help Chrona at such a critical moment. Then again we still have 9 episodes to go so she might still be there for the final battle.

[Munsu]

Even though I never read the manga anywhere this far, it still makes me sad to hear the show isn't following it anymore. It inevitably makes me think this is inferior already.

Lol, I hate it when that happens, especially in shounen series... it's like shounen type of anime don't know how to make something anime original good. So that one is let known that something is no longer following the manga in this genre is a huge blow.

The discussion for the series has been quite bad for the last couple of episodes. Glad to see that Medusa is still around (fucking spoiled me some), she's awesome.

[Kraco]

Why exactly is Stein so relaxed in Medusa's company now that he's mad? Is it because he really likes Medusa and so being mad, that is, having no mental restrictions, he enjoys her company? In reality becoming mad wouldn't make anybody switch sides or anything like that. I guess there really was much truth in the talk back then about Stein and Medusa making a jolly good pair.

[Archangel]

Now that he's completely cracked up i'm guessing he's enjoying the madness high

I think that has more to do with him being relaxed more than Medusa's company

[Kraco]

Private Investigator Death the Kid:

Episode 43 - Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=49505)

[Nadouku]

It was good to see Black Star go and kick some ass again with Tsubaki. Maka seems calm even though she doesn't even know where she's going, evidented by her blush and calm tone when Soul told her to stop and think about where to go.

When Kidd got the "last" demonic tool and destroyed the two clown guards, I think that the voice that came from the red clown was Eibon himself, since he did create the tools and placed guards for them when he vanished from the face of the world. He also leaves Kidd with the question, "What will you do when you've obtained them all?"

I have to agree with Kidd, though. On what motives does Shibusen have when they manage to collect almost all of the demonic tools? Use it for the good of Shibusen? That's pretty hard to believe in, since Shibusen seems just as corrupt as Arachnophobia.

[Kraco]

What bothers me is the artificial building of some sort of corruption in Shibusen. Kid keeps repeating it and then we have all the theatrics involved in making a deal with Medusa... But that's pretty much all we have. Corruption would indicate internal deviation from the original plan, and I don't see anything contradicting that plan so far. If there's corruption, then it's just a conflict between the ideals of people who don't know all the facts and the reality nobody knows but Shinigami and maybe BJ. If Shinigami has dropped his original ideas, then maybe there really is corruption, but not otherwise.

Well, it was a good episode, even though I'm feeling the series is already hurrying towards some sort of an end now that the limit of episodes is near. That would only mean less character development in favour of developing the plot. I guess Black Star is suffering from that already, not so much the others yet, but honestly it wouldn't surprise me all that much if Soul's black blood would play no role anymore. I hope that's a premature prediction, though.

Edit: Added a bit of clarity.

[narutosharingan]

I don't necessarily think there's any corruption, but Shinigami certainly has a plan for those demonic tools. Kid doesn't understand because he doesn't know what Shinigami has planned, which is making him doubt the reason for obtaining them.

[Buffalobiian]

I agree with Kraco on this. Though I don't know when this show diverged from the manga, or how it does it, but if kind of feels like something filler writer would do. Adding things in that really doesn't go anywhere, and gets resolved by something really simple (like an explanation?). Considering all the things that's happened (secret only Staff know about, and the willingness of the people to know to help, and how it's all meant to help fix this "Kishin" problem), I'm going to throw a hypothesis in there that these tools will somehow uproot Shinigami's soul and let him go mobile again.

The actual episode had some pretty good battle scenes too. Kid's was entertaining, and they managed to throw in his symmetry weakness in as well. Patty and her twisted ways never gets old neither :D

I think that voice is Eibon too, and from his warning, he doesn't seem that evil person, despite creating "demonic" tools. (What evil person warns people destruction will come if not used properly?!)

Finally, Soul Eater EDs just keep getting better and better.

[Buffalobiian]

Soul Eater - 44 by Hatsuyuki Fansub & Tsubaki Fansubs (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=50478)

[Kraco]

A pretty intensive episode, but based on this Crona will surely never amount to anything. But on the other hand, she was never anything but a research item and a cheap tool to Medusa, so I guess it makes sense. She was never supposed to be a fighter. Quite a lousily devised attack plan by those two in any case.

Soul is a funny fellow: Even though they retreated from the main battle, he still remained in the scythe form, forcing Maka to carry him around. Surely the dude could have run on his own...

I wonder if Black Star will get any development anymore. I have a feeling the anime cut that one short immediately after he let himself get beaten by Kid. Possibly he will face one or two enemies still, with no big deal, but it's kind of a letdown, considering how Black Star and Tsubaki are my favorite characters. I guess I'll need to restart reading the manga.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, intensive as it was, Crona was frustrating to watch. I was expecting some solid resolve and a "I will not be your bitch anymore!" attitude, but she was still stuck with her half-assed determination. At least Mary knows what she's doing, but it doesn't look like she'll want to hurt Stein, even if she was a match for him. I'm also hoping they'll follow through with Mary's special ability that activates when she makes contact with you, rather than simply slipping it in to sound cool.

Your point regarding Soul is indeed a funny one. I can't think of a reason other than:

a) Both running together in black would look even funnier/bad.
b) Featuring Soul as a Scythe directs our focus on Maka, her expressions and her thoughts.

We still haven't seen Mifune yet, so there's still room for a final Black Star showdown. If it follows standard anime plots, he'll show how he's tapped into Tsubaki's powers by using an awesome move, while Mifune goes down saying something about "children are like that".

Rather, after the last episode, I'm thinking Kidd's the one who'll get no more action or any real story for the rest of the series. The only thing he can really "develop" is to get over his OCD, which would honestly make him a boring marksman. Maybe he'll have some sort of enlightening discussion with Shinigami when he gets back, but I'm not expecting too much action from him.

If Justin takes off his headphones, his fight might actually get interesting. It's still (sort of) cool to watch though.

[Kraco]

I'm not really that interested in regular Black Star fights. The developing, and cut short, madness aspect was so interesting it really make this series shine for me. I have seen people call Tsubaki a boring character, and while she isn't on her own any bright star, the fact this series is all about pairs, a weapon and a master, is what makes her interesting for me. I have really liked the interaction between those two, and the things they haven't said aloud but have let understood nonetheless, like during the demon blade arc, and how well they understand each other.

So, I'm infinitely sad the series ends so soon and any further interaction between those two will probably be nothing extraordinary. We won't be seeing how far Tsubaki would have followed Black Star down the path to madness, or whether she would have reacted soon to try to save him. Honestly, the fact there is that pair made Black Star's budding madness far more interesting to me than Stein's.

[Xelbair]

And i had hopes for a Death the Kid action here. Interesting episode but what sane person would charge into enemy's lair without plan or resolve to fight? And indeed Black Star's madness was really interesting - i hoped to see him more than Maka(which annoys me deeply).

Overall: good ep, but i really need to read the manga now.

[David75]

Well, the thing that's interresting about Black Star/Tsubaki is when they get to the uber level. They approached it only once, but BS feared the darkness to come... Tsubaki is probably the strongest weapon we've seen yet.

Soul isn't that strong, maybe even weak. But with Maka he's sometimes able to control black blood's power and get back. There's that Hax move they've yet to master too.

Other than that, I've loved Medusa from the first time I've seen her. She's the only character I root for, eventhough I know she can't win in the end.

[Kraco]

They approached it only once, but BS feared the darkness to come...

What incident are you specifically referring to?

[Buffalobiian]

Are you talking about the time when Black Star saw a Stag as he meditated with Demon Blade?

[Nadouku]

Even with Marie's help, Crona can't come to a strong conclusion for more determination, since her resolve was already weakened in the past and slowly began to repair itself before crumbling again by Medusa's hand. I thought it was interesting to see Medusa cuddle herself against Stein while pissing Marie off even more. Overall, good episode.

[David75]

What incident are you specifically referring to?


Are you talking about the time when Black Star saw a Stag as he meditated with Demon Blade?

Ep 33 beetween 4'20" and 6'01" roughly

BS is in fey blade mode, concentrating because he wants to know more about another spirit there is when in fey blade, seeking for more power. While he's in "Tsubaki's inner world" he meets some kind of monster spirit with which he talks about his seek for power. That spirit tells him it is of a ogre.
At that moment Black Star suddenly gets out of synch and it seems his body is at a limit.

For some reason, I think he desynched because he feared something.

[Kraco]

I wonder what sub of that ep you watched. I have actually watched that particular episode about five times, it being my most favorite episode of the whole series so far. However, the lats time was the AllHailExcalibur release, and honestly their translation differed from the one I had before so much that some scenes looked quite different - in a good way. That particular scene was one of them.

The spirit asks Black Star why he seeks power, and BS answers (like he always does) that it's in order to surpass God. The spirit answers that while BS speaks of God, he himself has a face of a demon (Black Star's most demonic face is shown at that point). And then Black Star is pretty much kicked out of the sword's soul world.

As a translation that's quite an opposite to the old shittier sub I had, and made 500% more sense, so I opt to believe this sub instead of the older ones. In short, the spirit might not have been satisfied with Black Star's answer, as honest as it was, or it decided to have Black Star prove his worth. Who knows. But as things are going in this series, I fear we will never find out, or it'll be a very unsatisfying anime original solution.

So, I don't think Black Star feared anything.

[David75]

Yup, subs were are to find for 30 to 34 eps I remember. It may well be that BS isn't fit to use the uber mode yet. Or that mode could kill him as a one time use for the end battle for example.
That would give meaning to the "I want to surpass God" line, he'll be able to, but only once and will consume himself doing so. Very much in line with stories of the same kind. But since it's me guessing, it's me puting my ideas in line, scenarist may think of something else.

[Archangel]

I think the moment you guys heard the anime wasn't following the manga anymore you just subconsciously started looking at faults in the show that you hadn't noticed before.

I think you should just forget about it and enjoy the show as it is.

The way i see it this just means that after the anime ends i have even more soul eater to enjoy in a completely different way even if it's in the form of a manga

[Kraco]

Nah, it was anything but subconscious for me. I already remarked a thread or two ago that as soon as I hear a (shounen) show diverges from the manga path, I can't help but expect the worst. So heavy have the lessons been in the past. Besides, it's not altogether unwarranted in this case in any case, because this show is running out of episodes. No helping that.

[Kraco]

Vector arrow!

Episode 45 - Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=51610)








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A decent episode, though at one point I was thinking the fight sucked. But it ended pretty well all in all, after Stein recovered. Medusa couldn't really show any new tricks, but that's somewhat understandable seeing how she clearly didn't understand Demon Hunter and the anti-demon wavelength. Well, at least she had a chance to utter ominous last words...

I hope the next ep's Black Star vs Mifune fight will be decent as well.

[Nadouku]

I'm glad that Stein decided to come back to his senses after Marie got in touched with him via Soul Resonance, and Maka almost succumbed herself to the madness if Marie didn't stop her as well. Well, that was a horrible end for Medusa, but something tells me that it isn't the end for her. She will probably come back and...

I'm pumped up for Mifune versus Black Star rematch #3. Hopefully, those two will fight without any interruptions since Mifune is one of my favorite characters in the series. :p

[shinta|hikari]

If Marie had that purifying skill, why didn't she use it before Stein went insane and defected?

[Archangel]

If Marie had that purifying skill, why didn't she use it before Stein went insane and defected?

Because that part wasn't filler

Seriously don't overthink things, you'll only ruin the show in your mind

I enjoyed the episode but i have to say i expected Medusa's death to be something more flashy and with her screaming "I dont want to die"

This could mean that we haven't seen the last of her , so here's hoping.

[poopdeville]

I don't think it was a purifying skill. I think she just brought Stein back to his "senses", like he was before he totally flipped out and left Shibusen. He was never sane, and he can still go crazy again. But at least now he remembers who his friends are.

They make that resonance of souls thing sound like having sex, and while Mary and Stein know each other, Stein was kind of distant when she first arrived. She might not have wanted to pressure him. But now she "had to" do it.

At least, it doesn't have to be a plot hole...

[Buffalobiian]

Because that part wasn't filler

You're not saying Marie's Purifying Wavelength ability is filler-introduced, right? (It's kind of funny that her ability is one that'll flatten your face and heal your soul :o)


They make that resonance of souls thing sound like having sex,

What gave you that idea?

I'm with Kraco that this fight felt fairly decent. It resolved well and all, but there just wasn't any tension or suspense.

My hopes are up for the next fight though. Black Star's "I'll surpass God" attitude just keeps things from stagnating. Whether he wins or not is another issue though. Last time we saw him he just recovered from his ego-collapse, and the time before that he just barely tapped into Tsubaki's ability. Without much improvement really, Mifune should still be stronger.

[DarthEnderX]

So, I finally decided to watch this series, I finish all the current episodes and I come here and find out I'm already watching filler?

When did this "filler" start? Because all the stuff thats going on seems pretty heavy.

[Archangel]

So, I finally decided to watch this series, I finish all the current episodes and I come here and find out I'm already watching filler?

When did this "filler" start? Because all the stuff thats going on seems pretty heavy.

See?

He didn't know it was a filler so he enjoyed it.

I'm telling you guys, you need to just forget about all that filler bs and focus on how awesome this anime still is

[Ryllharu]

It's not filler, it's an anime adaptation, like the original Full Metal Alchemist was. It's similar, but it doesn't follow the manga point for point.

A little bit of the variation starts around episode 25 (manga chapter 23, vol 7) but the series shifts to its own direction at episode 37 (don't know the chapter, I stopped at ch23). The smaller variations are mostly to accomodate the difference later on. From comments on anime blogs and from Archie, I've heard they exclude only a few major events between ep25 and ep37 (to my knowledge), shorten up a few, draw out some a little to fill an episode, and there is only one true filler episode. The rest of the episodes that seem like filler are actually canon to the manga omakes.


Hey...look at that, both FMA and Soul Eater are done by BONES. Two really well done adaptations, not a coincidence I'm sure.

[Archangel]

It's a bit more complicated than that. Basically, they're using manga material out of context.

For example, the clowns weren't supposed to be referred to in the plural and the one lown who did exist in the manga had a much more important role to the story

[Ryllharu]

But that's already after they break from the canon storyline, is it not?

Either way, that's exactly what they did to FMA and Angelic Layer.

[Archangel]

But that's already after they break from the canon storyline, is it not?

Either way, that's exactly what they did to FMA and Angelic Layer.

Actually they did create new character in FMA's case ( never watched the other one ) like Wrath while Soul Eater seems reluctant to introduce a single one who was created exclusively for the anime.

I'm just saying it's quite interesting to watch the characters you know from the manga acting in a completely different fashion :)

[Kraco]

I'm telling you guys, you need to just forget about all that filler bs and focus on how awesome this anime still is

Despite my general misgivings about shounen anime original content, in this case I'm simply worried character development will be cut short because we will run out of episodes, and I have a feeling they seek some sort of a final conclusion before the end. I mean, we have here the black blood corrupting Soul and Maka, the whole deranged history of Black Star's clan and the demonic blade Tsubaki absorbed. I was never that interested in Kid, but there's always the possibility of him turning against his old man as well. This all under the increasing madness and the gathering demon tools. It would be easily enough for 100 episodes, surely. Instead, we have a few eps left that must still accommodate important fights.

[Archangel]

That's inevitable kraco, but since a second season is unlikely i think we should all stop thinking about what this how could have been and enjoy it for what it is: one of the most entertaining animes still running today ( in my opinion at least )

We still have the manga after this is done after all

[Buffalobiian]

I do think Soul Eater's been enjoyable, diverged or not.

But I'm also with Kraco on this. Since, as Archie said, second seasons are unlikely when they make something so anime-original, the studio should really do something to tie it all up. To make it a completed anime in its own right. That shouldn't be a problem since they've got no qualms about adapting from (and making up) material anyway.

The problem that I, and I think Kraco as well, see with how things are going is that then they make endings that don't really resolve previously introduced topics (such as tapping into Tsubaki's powers), it leaves a sense of incompleteness and the "anime original ending is subpar" idea. I understand they haven't finished with the series yet, but considering we're in the "finishing up" part now, you can really see that some things have been cut short.

You can say that it's inevitable, since the manga mightn't have left things unresolved for later since it's still running, but just as inevitable, if the studio doesn't make up an ending that ties up everything that's been said or started, you can't help but feel unsatisfied if you disregard all and evaluate it as a "standalone" anime.

[poopdeville]

They make that resonance of souls thing sound like having sex,


What gave you that idea?


All the talk of unions and intimacy, miesters living with and usually marrying their weapons, etc.

[Buffalobiian]

Intimacy? Living together is to grasp each other's rhythm. Asuka and Shinji had to do it in NGE.

As for marrying their weapons, Spirit and Maka's mum is the only pair I know to do so. It's not like Shinigami's a bisexual pimp or anything.

[DarthEnderX]

So is it as obvious to everyone else as it is to me from his hair that Asura is also the Grim Reaper's son?

[Buffalobiian]

That wasn't obvious to me, nor am I certain it's his son. Interesting idea though.

[Kraco]

I have to say such an idea never crossed my mind.

If we assume that's the case, do you figure that's why Shinigami dropped the demon tool development - so that Kid wouldn't end up the same way?

Edit: Typo

[Buffalobiian]

Not that everybody out there is a good parent who raises good kids, but it really makes me wonder how Kishin would end up with such a feeling of insecurity. Surely being the son of the almighty Shinigami would be some insurance of safety, no?

Eibon and Shinigami also had connections, but I'm not sure where Kraco made the link that he directed a C&D at Eibon. Regardless, the current harvesting of Demon Tools seems like "continuing the development" in that sense. I've got an unexplainable feeling that it's to uproot Shinigami's soul.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, maybe that's just a side effect of being the Reaper's son.

I mean, Kid is also mentally unstable. He has crippling OCD.

Perhaps mental defect is something that just comes from being the Grim Reapers children, and Kid was lucky that his wasn't as harmful as Asura's.

[poopdeville]

Asura is Majin Buu/Voldemort, right?

Anyway, I'm sure being so close to death -- essentially being a Shinigami and a mortal human scared the crap out of him. He's clearly afraid of dying. That is, he's afraid of his father, and started eating souls to become stronger than him.

[Buffalobiian]

Haven't heard of this group, but it's out.

[UGS]Soul Eater 46 avi (http://www.mininova.org/get/2322344)

[Nadouku]

Awesome episode, mainly because of how the fight ended and a little history report to boot. I didn't realize Mifune delved that far back in time to fight against him.

As for the fansubbing, they have horrible translation and don't obviously do Quality Checking, so I wouldn't recommend them at all. You can wait for other subs for better definition, but this episode interested me on a whole new level to even whisk away the bad fansubbing.

[David75]

comments @ mininova:


If you are someone who DOES NOT require quality translations in your anime, then this one should be fine for you.

HOWEVER, for those of you who DO like QUALITY subs, then be aware that this release is of poor quality. Spelling, grammar and punctuation is quite lacking. Furthermore, there are several lines missing completely, on several occasions.

[UGS], this is a half decent effort, but you guys really need to have a good grasp of the English language (yes this includes spelling, grammar and punctuation) before you guys release any titles (be they quick or not), if you really want to make a (good) name for yourselves. On the up side, they (UGS) were very quick with this release. On this note, there IS a reason why the more known "quality subs" take just a little longer for their releases.

Quality over speed: this sets apart the difference between the standards of a ten to twelve year old, and those of whom possess the intellect that know the meaning of Quality.

Thanks for the link, but since I'm leaving for work, I'll wait for tsubaki that are average, but enough most of the time ;)

[Archangel]

Wish i had read that before watching it -_-

Seriously Bill, please don't post the first shitty sub appears on the web, not without a warning of how crappy it is at least

[Kraco]

The real thing:

Episode 46 - Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=52676)

[David75]

Well well well.
We got a bit of BlackStar development, otherwise it would have been a filler.
Like Maka, BlackStar is always on razor's edge, Mifune is there to remind him and take measures should he choose the wrong path. Interresting how Mifune could in fact be sent by Shinigami to prevent the birth of a new Kishin...

[Kraco]

Based on this it looks like Black Star faked his healing from his great collapse some eps ago. He's basically no different from when he fought against Kid. I mean, Mifune might be a badass mofo, but he pushed simply back Black Star's demon blade technique with one of his mass production blades. This keeping in mind how some more eps ago Stein called Black Star the strongest attacker in the team. I'm actually very happy Black Star is still suffering from his serious case of identity crisis.

Still, it remains to be seen how this all is solved. It would suck if Maka appears there to save the day - come on, she already saved Crona, Stein, and Marie. She doesn't need to save even more people. I see as the only viable way Black Star encountering Tsubaki's other aspect in the soul world and finally realising a better answer to the question. Or a better way to give the answer; I don't know if it Black Star could be Black Star without that trademark phrase.

Good stuff on White Star in any case. Quite an asskicker, and somewhat different from the solely money hungry mercenary image we previously were given. This one was eerily like Black Star himself.

[Buffalobiian]

Seriously Bill, please don't post the first shitty sub appears on the web, not without a warning of how crappy it is at least

It was that bad? I didn't know. I waited for Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki :p.

I liked this episode, though nothing special really happened, besides revealing Black Star still hasn't come to grips with himself. Like Kraco, I'm sort of happy it turned out this way, only because nothing will convince me that Black Star's finally stronger unless we get see his answer in the Soul World, not some fight with Kid.

Other than that. I'm just happy Shinigami will be coming out, not in person like I expected, but as a Death City walker...

[Inazuma]

47 Incoming, brace for epic.

[David75]

[Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki]​_Soul​_Eater​_47[1280x720][ce4cc1df].mkv 240Mb @ nyaatorrents (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=53319)

Have fun

[Kraco]

Hmm... So, if I got this right, Tsubaki's other half, the demon blade, was feeling sorry for all the people, who regretted getting killed by the blade (that is, got slain by Masamune, Tsubaki's brother). The blade hadn't been previously impressed by Black Star's desire to only get stronger and surpass the god, but now when Black Star announced he would remove the regrets of all those souls or their shadows lingering in the blade, he instantly won it over. It was a bit flimsy but I suppose I can live with it. It's a blade, after all, so it's fitting it's simple enough.

Another thing is how you can lift the regrets of the dead. Normally you'd think all they want is justice and revenge. That Black Star can't very well give them since the blade is now a part of Tsubaki. Though if those souls are already satisfied with Masamune's defeat, I reckon the high-spirited ones among the ghosts could be happy if Black Star turned the blade into an instrument of justice. The rest might rest more happily if Black Star gets really strong with the blade, because then they could feel like they lost to such a badass mofo opponent.

I also got the feeling Black Star could now easily deepen his relationship with Tsubaki - in many interesting ways.

Other than that, I surely share the disbelief of most of the characters when they watched Shinigami turn the town into a giant mecha... Only to have Arachne's castle turn into another one. Arachne herself was quite funnily sidestepped in all this.

[Inazuma]

The first part, with Black Star, was a disappointment, it's getting old, getting defeated then out of nowhere POWER UP. Very much like Bleach Ichigo/Zaraki first encounter.

Shinigami Sama is after everything that went on, still ultra awesome, the Mecha fight if we can call that mechas was something unexpected and good as it felt for me as a parody for gundam late shows.

[Buffalobiian]

S.S. Black Star certainly didn't end as I'd hoped. It's conclusive enough I guess, but the reason for his revival certainly wasn't convincing to me. The idea that a bigger, red Fey Blade suddenly defeats Mifune also wasn't terribly believable, but I don't feel like complaining any more.

Then again, believability certainly wasn't what this episode was about. The ridiculour scenes with Death City playing squash-the-spider had me laughing for the entire second half.

Given I've wanted to see another Kishin vs Shinigami showdown, I'll looking forward to next week. with 3-4 more episodes to go though, I wonder where they'll take this. Being a bit too early for a "final" showdown, I can't help but think Shinigami's going to lose, letting our main trio take the stage. As for how these three (or 7) will somehow succeed where Shinigami failed though.....

[poopdeville]

Maka has the Demon Slaying blade or whatever.

[Nadouku]

First time I've seen Black Star tear up, but sadly, Mifune got defeated. At least, he's given the chance to teach at Shibusen and start anew. The rest after the Black Star climax was hilarious, especially when Death City fought Baba Yaga's Castle. Mildly entertaining episode.

[Archangel]

Soul Eater is a mecha anime now, spread the word :D

I wasn't a huge fan of such an abrupt ending to the Mifune/Black Star rivalry but it's not like anything i haven't seen before in a shonen anime so i can live with it

Lol i totally called it, i knew they were gonna add legs to the city ever since Stein suggested it many episodes ago but they went ahead and turned it into a mecha for extra awesomeness.

The fight between the 2 robots was incredibly stupid and i loved it. I laughed through all of it till the point the kishin God was eaten by the city, after that i fell from my chair ( true story )

Haven't enjoyed a Soul Eater episode like this in a long time, i hope they keep the quality to these standards for the next final episodes

[gos27]

how many eps they making of this does anyone no ?

[Nadouku]

The series should end around episode 51, and a second season is unlikely, but... :o

[gos27]

k thank you !

[Archangel]

The series should end around episode 51, and a second season is unlikely, but... :o

I'm hoping for something along the lines of what they're doing with the second season of FMA but it's really only wishful thinking

[Buffalobiian]

The thing is FMA deviated quite early, so that anime for the most part was significantly different from the manga, meaning that a remake would be less of a repeat.

As for shows that follow through, then come up with an anime-original ending, chances are less likely IMO.

[poopdeville]

So wait, if Eibon's tool made the Shibusen a giant mecha out to destroy Asura, does that mean Shibusen is a "weapon" now? I mean, it is, in an obvious sense. But is it a weapon capable of sealing souls?

[Buffalobiian]

I don't believe it's a weapon. It's as you say, a walking mecha, much like Baba Yaga Castle. It's not capable of performing soul resonance or anything, so I wouldn't consider it the same type of being as Soul or Patty.

[narutosharingan]

I didn't really mind the fight in the beginning, but it feels like they're rushing it a bit. It's too bad there won't be a 2nd season likely, because it feels like they need it.

[Kraco]

The beginning of the end:

Episode 48 - Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=54599)

[Nadouku]

Awesome episode between the gods, although Asura did a very "good" move by aiming for the weak. How ruthless of him! Black Star's entry was kind of dummed down this episode, so he didn't get much action to boot.

[TheBladeChild]

Someone forgot to put this into the En Fuego section.

[Kraco]

Someone forgot to put this into the En Fuego section.

It has been, for a few months now, the custom to have the latest thread of the En Fuego series here in General Anime, and the older threads in En Fuego. This is the latest until the next episode (a week from now).


Interesting enough episode, even if Asura's move was to be expected. Black Star certainly appeared a little bit more stupid than he normally is (like a shuddering reminder of Naruto), but I suppose that's mainly because he didn't have much of a role in this episode anyway.

[Buffalobiian]

Though I like seeing Shinigami fight in pissed-off mode, I love how he switches back and forth between that and, well "normal"/dorky mode. It helps create some dynamics in an otherwise fairly alright fight. He did bring out a new move, so that was pretty cool I guess.

I agree with the Black Star comments. It's almost like they're trying a bit too hard to show his "straighforwardness".

The cheap shot was to be expected, though I still think Shinigami could have put up another yellow shield, had his defeat not been necessary to make way for our main trio.

[poopdeville]

Excalibur was pretty awesome this episode.

I lolled when Black Star took one in the balls.

[David75]

Last night I found that link on TokyoTosho:

Soul Eater - 49 [1280x720 - H264]​.mp4 279.98MiB @ nyaatorrents (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=54834)

Be aware that it isn't a high quality sub, with words missing, mispells or unfinished sentences. Also some seemingly strange translations at times (though I'm not one to understand enough)

But for a dose of Soul Eater, that translation was ok, it was more than possible to extract some pleasure from it.

You've been warned though, have fun!

PS: will update whenever Tsubaki is out

[Kraco]

With less words missing:

Episode 49 - Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=55575)

[David75]

I think I do not need to update my first post, as yours is right after.

I'll watch that one this evening, thanks

[Nadouku]

Fine episode, and a strong one to boot. Asura is just toying around with them, as he could have gotten serious and tried to finish them off. Soul's in a pinch right now, as his soul has been consumed by the madness. Lets see if Maka can rescue him from it.

[Kraco]

Asura is just toying around with them, as he could have gotten serious and tried to finish them off.

That's not actually guaranteed. Power wise I have no doubt he could have finished them, even though he seemed to be spending a lot of effort to build the barrier, but it seems to me like he's losing screws from his head a bit faster than normally. So, whether he could have mentally controlled himself enough to kill them, is another matter. Toying with them might have been just an aspect of his madness.

In any case he's one tough dude.

[Nadouku]

I guess because Azusa was saying that Asura was preparing to take a long nap to replenish his broken body from Shinigami's fight so that might be why he was concentrating more on the barrier than on the fighting. I like how she remarked that "Asura could rule the whole world without fighting". :p

[Buffalobiian]

Well as they say, he's a coward. Insanely powerful as he was, he still gobbled another witch's soul to get rid of her (and power up in the process). Adding to the fact that he was wounded, you'd think protecting himself would be his top priority.

The fights were pretty good I guess, though it didn't really get me started. I noticed Black*Star doesn't have Shadow Tattoos on his face when he's using Fey Blade now, and his attacks didn't look terribly spectacular for the "strongest attacker".

Anyways, I'm looking forward to next episode. From what I gather, Shinigami dies, giving the title of THE Grim Reaper to Kid, as well as any power that comes with it.

If/when that happens, I can guess exactly what will happen. He'll win and reorganise Shibusen, starting with the Death Room.

Clean. Tidy. Symmetrical. :p

[David75]

Since I don't want to spam the section with low quality subs, I inform everyone that Ep 50 is available at tokyotosho with same fansud as the one I posted for ep 49. So low quality is to be expected again.
I do not post a link, since if one is desperate enough, they'll get it easily at tokyotosho.

[Buffalobiian]

[Hatsuyuki Fansub & Tsubaki Fansubs] Soul Eater - 50 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=56229)

[Kraco]

Interesting episode for sure. Though I'm not too pleased it proceeded in real time, and thus during the time the camera was following Maka in Soul's soul world, Black Star got defeated (and possibly also Kid assuming he even managed to get up). Even if that was to be expected, assuming it's indeed Maka+Soul who will need to deliver the last hit, it's still kind of cheap, considering all that those five went through while Maka was rescuing Soul. The other thing that bothers me is that it still hasn't been explicitly stated what Black Star gained when he got, apparently, the Nakatsukasa clan's blessing and the full control over the demon blade.

An excellent episode, though, no less. The ending of this show is looking good.

[Buffalobiian]

Regarding the feeling of Soul Eater (the show) "losing it" in the past few eps, this episode was a turnaround point. They did a good job building up the whole atmosphere just before Kid got skewered. In parallel, Maka's scenes also did well with building up tension

I chuckled when Soul just ate the little guy.

Black Star's defeat was the only disappointing part. I didn't like how he suddenly got some speed boost (why didn't he use that before?), then got defeated like some nameless grunt by the time Soul woke up. BONES ain't doing him justice at all.

Interestingly though, at 14:19, the subs say "there's one more crack on Mr. Reaper's corpse.", implying that he's already dead. It doesn't make sense that the medics would look so worried rather than sad if it was the case though, so I'm settling with the term body instead.

That is, of course, that being dead is the pathway to becoming a true Shinigami (hence the Three Rivers), in which case, corpse is ironically appropriate.


Final episode sure looks cool. Had I not known Ashura is a Meister rather than a Weapon, I would have thought she converted.

[Nadouku]

Good episode, shows a lot of madness going on left and right. Kid having a huge power-up when he got struck was awesome, and Black Star speed-crazing his way to victory was cool. The preview has me hyped up for some kind of super move that will probably finish Asura off.

[Inazuma]

Meh, next to Kid and BS, Make looks just ... Meh.

[narutosharingan]

That was a good episode, though I definitely think they could have made the series longer and added more character development. That said, it's been good.

[Archangel]

The other thing that bothers me is that it still hasn't been explicitly stated what Black Star gained when he got, apparently, the Nakatsukasa clan's blessing and the full control over the demon blade.

Actually i was very surprised, seeing how they seem to be squeezing the manga's content till the very last drop, that his true powerup wasn't shown during this fight.

[Buffalobiian]

All that seems to have changed is that Fye blade mode now doesn't give him Shadow Tattoos, not taxes his body like before (where he'll get heart attacks from prolonged use).

[Yukimura]

I thought someone would have posted this by now...

Soul Eater - 51 (720p) - [Aasasubs] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=56723)

- I watched this sub, it had some jarring grammar flaws but was watchable if you just want to know what happens.

[David75]

I hesitated posting them, or rather even downloading them, as poor quality fansub would ruin the experience. So I don't even know if they're good or not, but didn't want to have a bad experience for the last episode.

[Archangel]

I wonder why the last episode is taking so long and why so many shitty groups decided to sub it out of nowhere

[Buffalobiian]

I wonder why the last episode is taking so long and why so many shitty groups decided to sub it out of nowhere

Don't they normally take 1 or 2 days more, or are they a week behind? I haven't been keeping count. I know that some quality groups will use someone who's familiar with the manga, or cross reference things with the manga so anything "new" or "hidden" will make sense should people read on.

[Kraco]

Soul Eater - 51 (720p) - [Aasasubs] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=56723)
- I watched this sub, it had some jarring grammar flaws but was watchable if you just want to know what happens.

I downloaded this group's Queen's Blade ep1, and could watch it for about 30 seconds, before I gave up. It was honestly one of the absolutely worst subs I've ever seen. The font alone was so ugly that whoever created it probably did it just before taking her own life, so shamefully ugly it was. Furthermore, as if that wasn't enough, the subber did his best to contribute to the abysmal looks of the font by a style straight from hell. The bright side is that the quality of translation wouldn't have mattered, because my eyes would have been bleeding too much to read anything, had I kept watching it.

Nah, I think I'll take something else.

[Yukimura]

Personally I don't think it would have mattered what subs I watched (beyond Kraco's comment about the font potentially hurting my eyes). Even without any dialogue the ending ultimately left me so underwhelmed I had to go and calculate how much time I had spent watching it to think about if it was even worth it. For the first 15 min or so everything was going pretty great then it seems like they couldn't figure a way to overpower or outsmart the bad guy so they just phoned it in that shounen heart solves all problems without it even having to make sense.

The final resolution just drops everything the show built on top of its basic shounnen foundation and just Deus Ex Positivia's its way to the credits with the tried and true the good guys win because they are good and the bad guy loses because he is bad formula. I knew what I was getting myself into from the beginning but still, I thought the final resolution would at least make me feel some pride in the main characters accomplishments. But apparently not only can you not fight Shounen Heart, it doesn't even have to fight you to beat you.

Also according to someone on IRC those Reapists subs are just rick rolls, so out with them.

[The Heretic Azazel]

Cliche shonen nonsense in its worst form.

[Dark Dragon]

Cliche shonen nonsense in its worst form.

This is the result of studios trying to create anime of popular manga way too early. The last few seasons were filled with this type of tripe and the trend continue. I don't understand why they don't bother to animate older, more popular and completed manga instead (3x3 Eyes). There were plenty of anime that started good then started to suck half way because they ran out of the material and ended in a half-ass manner (Rave Masters, FMA).

I have a feeling that the FMA reboot might end like crap too since the manga is still not finished and it's might or might not end anytime soon. The same situation with last season Skip Beat! and this season Cross Games since the manga for both of those are only half done.

I'm sorry about the rant but Soul Eater was my favorite show when it debuted and the anime script monkeys managed to completely bastardized the story in 15 episodes.

[DarthEnderX]

Whoa whoa whoa.


FMA reboot?

[Yukimura]

Lol Darth: Have you not been paying attention to the threads in the General Anime board other than these Soul Eater ones?

Anyway I'm starting to think maybe Tsubaki & Hanatsuki are rebelling against the lameness of this ending by not subbing it, I think that would be hilarious.

[Buffalobiian]

Anyway I'm starting to think maybe Tsubaki & Hanatsuki are rebelling against the lameness of this ending by not subbing it, I think that would be hilarious.

That'll still be a bitch though. :(

[Marik]

[Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki]Soul Eater 51[1280x720 x264 AAC][MP4] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57613)
[Tsubaki-Hatsuyuki] Soul Eater 51[1280x720][E3C330EB].mkv (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=57916)

[Yukimura]

Rats! Well at least now you can all enjoy the pretty awesome first 3/4 of the finale.

[Kraco]

Quite a disappointing end. While you could say courage is the perfect poison against fear driven demon gods, it still does little to explain how it all worked. Right now Asura made a lot more sense, despite being the insane one, than Maka - or what actually happened.

If they had at least left the other ones dead and Maka alone alive with her courage, it would have been a lot more badass and meaningful ending. It would have given this courage a lot more emphasis as well if she could have kept going after burying her team mates. But this way... It was an ending worse than some Naruto fillers have had.

I guess I'll eventually return to read the manga.

[Nadouku]

Well, the beginning was good, lots of action. The only thing I'm confused about is why Maka had scythes protruding from her body. Did she inherit it from Spirit? If so, doesn't that make her a weapon, too? Anyway, Asura went on a philosophical route and monolouged all episode about the concept of "fear", only to be beaten by "courage". Now, I can't get the word "courage" out of my head. :(

[Buffalobiian]

Well, the beginning was good, lots of action. The only thing I'm confused about is why Maka had scythes protruding from her body. Did she inherit it from Spirit? If so, doesn't that make her a weapon, too?

Asura just said she's a weapon who chose the path of a Meister, which explains this well enough. Like Yuki said, the first 3/4 of this episode was awesome. Evil monologue, trump card doesn't work, hidden ability release!, all that sort of stuff that gets you going.

It does suck how everything just seemed to end with courage. I wouldn't have minded if they went for a different Deus Ex Mama route, coming in with an anti-madness wavelength? At least that makes more sense.

I'll just settle with their point of To Not Understand = To Fear, and having Asura lost his power due to losing certainty in the whole thing. Seriously, who else got annoyed when he cracked like some kid?

Summary: Meh ending to a solid series. I'd still recommend it, and I'll probably move onto the manga in a week or so.

(Oh, and I lolled at some guy's comment of betting on a manga-faithful remake 2-3 years later :rolleyes:)

[Archangel]

Jesus Christ that was disappointing :(

And what really pisses me off is all the potential it had. Midway, while he was torturing her, i was already envisioning a black blood crazed Maka fighting back insanity with insanity and somehow becoming the new kishin after his defeat

And then it all ends with a sucker punch :/

Anyway. I'm going with she busted her anti demon wavelength through that punch just like Black Star does and the internal damage made him explode

It also explains how he seemed to "crack" from the damage

Now back to reading the manga

[narutosharingan]

It was an ending worse than some Naruto fillers have had.



Harsh but probably true.

I can't really disagree that the first 3/4 were good, followed by an anticlimactic ending. I mean, just courage? I wouldn't mind if it was courage along with a little bit of badass Maka move, but apparently that wasn't possible. They could have done so much more, and it's a shame, as most of the series was highly entertaining.

[DarthEnderX]

It's been said, first 3/4ths was good.

But I actually didn't mind the end either. The fact that the demon god is such a coward and he can't understand someone who really has courage. The thing that ruins it is Asura's personality change. If they'd just has him go apeshit before falling apart, that would have been cool, but instead, they had him regress to a snotty 10 year old, and that kind of ruins the tension. If they'd just had Asura fall apart mentally you would still be afraid he might just obliterate everything around him or something instead of letting himself get hit, you wouldn't know until the end.

Instead it's just like, "Wow, that guy's a douche. Would you just hit him or something."

I liked the message though. Asura: "You can't fight insanity. It's inside everyone." Maka: "So is courage."


It was dissapointing though that this big reveal that Maka is a Weapon didn't actually amount to anything. It was cool and all, but she still got beat in 15 seconds.

[Archangel]

Lets use this as an excuse to start reading up on the manga

http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?t=7810

If you liked, let's say, the first 30 episodes of this anime and parts of the following eps then you might enjoy this ( just try it since the manga thread is dying and needs help )

[Sapphire]

Wow, everyone hates the ending? I loved it. Besides the fact that he was weakened considerably after everyone had their piece of him, courage beating out the influence of fear/ambiguity makes perfect sense to me. I wouldn't call that a deus ex machina. Maka waking up to find out that she had passed out and it was all a dream would be a worser ending. The fact that the show used forces (fear, courage) that are found in everyone to influence the mental state of the world was amazing. The whole time fear and insanity were going to take over the world, and we completely forgot about the antithesis of that.

I also thought the various twists and power ups were AMAZING! I wondering when Kid would get that much needed power boost.

What, you guys expected Maka to hit him really hard with a scythe to win the battle?

<3 Soul Eater. I'd love a second season, but according to Yuki it's diverged from the manga. I guess I'll just start reading the manga then..!

[poopdeville]

Quite a disappointing end. While you could say courage is the perfect poison against fear driven demon gods, it still does little to explain how it all worked. Right now Asura made a lot more sense, despite being the insane one, than Maka - or what actually happened.


I think it is important to remember that Asura's motivation was his fear of dying. He only conquered this fear by eating souls. Fear was his biggest weakness, and he thought he completely eliminated his fear when he became strong enough to beat Reaper-sama.

Maka did succumb to Asura's insanity. But her insanity made her strong against Asura, since her insanity manifested itself as irrational courage. This freaked Asura out. He thought he was the only one strong enough to not fear death. He realized Maka wasn't afraid either, and began to fear her strength. His fear undermined the basis of his powers.

[Kraco]

Asura was strong enough to defend against Shinigami's punches. One punch from Maka broke him. That's the one thing that I say makes no sense. At most Maka's courage should have made her able to face Asura but I fail to see how it makes her powerful enough to beat a dude of his calibre. A coward could be driving a tank and be mortally afraid of a mofo rifleman, but the coward is still inside a tank and the mofo outside of it, and no matter how brave the mofo is, his bullets only scrape the paint from the surface of the tank.

[Archangel]

If you go with my theory that the punch containing her "courage" allowed her to project her anti-demon wavelength and cause internal damage, much like Black Star and Stein are able to

The way how his head sort of implodes after the hit supports this

[David75]

If you go with my theory that the punch containing her "courage" allowed her to project her anti-demon wavelength and cause internal damage, much like Black Star and Stein are able to

The way how his head sort of implodes after the hit supports this

Asura was a coward and needed to check everything and details to have enough confidence.
He needs to be sure he'll win before engaging a fight.

When Maka showed courage when she's so weak, his confidence broke immediately since he's got so little of that.

When his confidence breaks, he loses control and his fears weakens him. It's as his fears consumed his powers.

[Kraco]

That sounds somewhat plausible, but considering he used to be a dude fighting alongside Shinigami in ye olde times, he should have had some baseline power level probably far above the kids'. It's somewhat unlikely his whole sum of abilities was 100% tied to his confidence, plus his confidence 100% broken at that moment.

[David75]

That sounds somewhat plausible, but considering he used to be a dude fighting alongside Shinigami in ye olde times, he should have had some baseline power level probably far above the kids'. It's somewhat unlikely his whole sum of abilities was 100% tied to his confidence, plus his confidence 100% broken at that moment.

Of course Maka progressing during the fight is probably also another factor.

These are only speculations for a particular event that seems a little weak, but was almost obligatory to end a shonen show on a positive win.

[Archangel]

When his confidence breaks, he loses control and his fears weakens him. It's as his fears consumed his powers.

To be weakened enough that a "Maka punch" completely destroys him?

I find that hard to believe.

[Sapphire]

Operating on the assumption that Shinigami is powerful as hell, there is no way that Kishin got out of that battle completely unscathed. The previous battles established the plausibility that he was weakened enough to be pushed around by the Shibusen students and actually be negatively affected -at all-. Maka's huge powerup and "mood change" was evidently enough to finish him off. Makes sense to me~

Personally, I think if you can believe the plot point that 'insanity' slash fear is spreading throughout the world and is literally destroying awesome, strong characters like Stein, then to me it's not so irrational that the demise of a completely insane and frightened character was because of a simple thing such as courage.

Anyone remember how the Chrona Maka fight ended? A hug for God's sakes. lol!!!!

[Archangel]

Soul Eater (Repeat Show)

Opening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhcGylaN18) & Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfdhmgyGb4w&feature=related)

For those who didn't know, Soul Eater is re-airing in japan with new OPs and EDs, i felt they were nice enough to share even though i can't find a decent HQ copy anywhere on youtube

[Kraco]

The old series already had jolly good OPs & EDs. I wonder why they needed to make new ones. To make people buy the series again?

I wish they had instead made the whole ending of the anime anew and then continued with new manga material for as long as it lasted...

[Buffalobiian]

These OP/ED are meant to make people watch the show more than the first one?

The first song sucks. The second song was decent/alright, but hardly felt fitting for the story.

Every single OP/ED from the first airing trumps this, even that horrible ED1 (I WANNA BE, I WANNA ARGGGGGGGGGH)

[Archangel]

Kuzo Boshi~ I liked it.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd2dMvkoQeI) is the best one though

[Buffalobiian]

Kuzo Boshi~ I liked it.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd2dMvkoQeI) is the best one though

lol, the clip was labelled ED5 (when there were only 4 EDs), and I scrambled my head for a sec trying to figure out what I'm forgetting.

Soul Eater EDs just kept getting better and better, I agree.

Until now.