Naruto Chapter 374

[conquistaDan]

Spoiler pic:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_VkIbHKDK5Dg/RwtRq2aigOI/AAAAAAAAA-Y/DchJovl4X5A/s1600/%C3%A7%EF%BF%BD%C2%AB%C3%A5%C2%BD%C2%B1374.jpg



Enjoy

[Assertn]

I get a forbidden error message

[mage]

this is the picture he linked

http://bp2.blogger.com/_VkIbHKDK5Dg/RwtRq2aigOI/AAAAAAAAA-Y/DchJovl4X5A/s1600/B1374.jpg

[RyougaZell]

Broken Link.
Had to copy paste the link in orden for explorer to prompt me saving it.

Reuploaded it somewhere else... direct linking is a pain.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/B1374.jpg

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Broken Link.
Had to copy paste the link in orden for explorer to prompt me saving it.

Reuploaded it somewhere else... direct linking is a pain.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/B1374.jpg


Wow, showing his first form huh? Nice. Cant wait for the whole thing. I still want to know about Naruto and Sasuke though!

[Idealistic]

Ummm that is odd. It double posted for me. Sorry. Only hit the button once. Can someone delete this for me. K Thanks!

Lies. Your post is clearly nonsense.

Anyways, we finally see Pain's true form? Or is that a flashback?

[darkshadow]

judging from the backdrop, it looks like all 6 bodies are "awake"

[dsh1202]

maybe he can control each of the bodies, without having to actually be in them, kinda like a puppet but different.. i know just another one of my crazy theories that never come true, but its still fun to make them lol.

[Death BOO Z]

he's an emo whiney goth that feels bad about killing people so he revives them with his mega eyes...
the first puppet is Yahiko, and there's also the Sanzo (Hanzo, Salamander, whatever his name is), and a few more no names.
something like Sasori puppeting his parents, only lamer,

[conquistaDan]

sorry everyone. I didn't have any problems loading it myself. So I don't know what the image problem was. Again sorry.

[Genma]

First Sasori's puppets, then Kuzuku's hearts, now Pein's control over multiple bodies...

*sigh*... meh, I guess I'll just wait to see how it pans out.

[dsh1202]

being immortal or obtaining immortallity seems to be becomeing a major theme in this manga, with at least the bad guys. Its starting to get kinda played out though, i want to see one powerfull badguy that isnt like immortal in some way, Deidara was like that, he only would have been better if he didnt kill himself! oh well, I guess konan isnt immortal..

[Idealistic]

^^ Eh.. For me I just want to see a bad guy who is strong just because he's strong and not because he has some bloodline or mutated crap.

Booo!

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

^^ Eh.. For me I just want to see a bad guy who is strong just because he's strong and not because he has some bloodline or mutated crap.

Booo!


Umm cry about it? You have to have sinister villians or then they arent villians!

[Idealistic]

Umm cry about it? You have to have sinister villians or then they arent villians!

Your posts are a bunch of nonsense.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Your posts are a bunch of nonsense.


Very original. And yet not so much at the same time. Tool. Too stay on topic, like someone else cant. Nagato kind of looks like Jason Schwartzman from Slackers! I dont see any percisings on him from this angle either. Wonder if he has any.

[Assertn]

^^ Eh.. For me I just want to see a bad guy who is strong just because he's strong and not because he has some bloodline or mutated crap.

Booo!
You mean like Kisame?

[FullMetalAlchemist]

Broken Link.
Had to copy paste the link in orden for explorer to prompt me saving it.

Reuploaded it somewhere else... direct linking is a pain.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/B1374.jpg

On mangahelpers.com they are calling it a fake so we can't say it's 100% true right now especially with all the scripts that have come out so far, one does go with this pic though while another that sounds like it can be true to doesn't go with it. time will tell hopefully by tomorrow we will have the scan :),

[Yukimura]

You mean like Kisame?

Have you seen that guy's face, eyes, and teeth? There has to be something unnatural about him for him to look like that. However if Zabuza and Suigetsu are any indication there might some standard process that all the Mist ninja's go though through that distorts their bodies and makes them more 'fishy'.

[conquistaDan]

On mangahelpers.com they are calling it a fake so we can't say it's 100% true right now especially with all the scripts that have come out so far, one does go with this pic though while another that sounds like it can be true to doesn't go with it. time will tell hopefully by tomorrow we will have the scan :),



I didn't say whether it was real or not. If it is fake sorry.

[RyougaZell]

Have you seen that guy's face, eyes, and teeth? There has to be something unnatural about him for him to look like that. However if Zabuza and Suigetsu are any indication there might some standard process that all the Mist ninja's go though through that distorts their bodies and makes them more 'fishy'.

Or maybe it was just a malformation?
Look at Kidoumaru and Sakon/Ukon. I really do not think these two were like these because Oro expermimented on them... because if he did... why didn't he did so as well with Jiroubu and Tayuya?


Zabuza wasn't fishy at all.

[conquistaDan]

Here are some more pictures. Some are confirmed some aren't. Be warned


Real:

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/29540/2004487349963184543_rs.jpg

Fakes:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6383/22uh0.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4549/11ey1.jpg


Enjoy

[itadakimasu]

it's getting good... i didn't want to sit there and examine the spoilers too much. but i couldn't help but notice the one picture looks as if there is a giant hand grabbing the ledge in front of pein.

[mage]

Looks like he's just standing on some pipes to me.

[dsh1202]

well it looks like the fight between pein and Jiraiya will finally take place, and if Jraiya is going to die, it'll probably happen soon. like either next chapter or the one after it.

[joker-kun]

Looks like he's just standing on some pipes to me.

Agreed. I'm pretty sure they're just pipes.

[Assertn]

Have you seen that guy's face, eyes, and teeth? There has to be something unnatural about him for him to look like that. However if Zabuza and Suigetsu are any indication there might some standard process that all the Mist ninja's go though through that distorts their bodies and makes them more 'fishy'.
Well, but so far the fishy-ness hasn't given Kisame any distinguished strengths that ordinary ninjas wouldn't possess.

[Yukimura]

@Assertn: You're right his fishiness hasn't really been shown to be beneficial as far as we can tell, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out his face gills let him breath under water or something.

@RyougaZell: Way way back in the day Zabuza revealed his teeth for a short period and they were pointy much like Kisame's (and I believe Suigetsu's). It is possibly that they all just filed them to be that way but it seems unlikely that all three of the former Mist ninja would have done the same thing to their teeth without some sort of common reason.

[mage]

Kisame was able to swim quite well vs Gai.

[animus]

Their teeth must be that sharp for a reason. Maybe since they're in the line of assassination, and they're de-armed they'd have a last resort of weapon using their teeth.

[Assertn]

Yeah but the ability to breathe and swim underwater is of relatively minor significance, since ninjas can already walk on water and hold their breath for a really long time anyway.

[LobsterMagnet]

I'm so dissappointed in you guys. The Raws out at naruto fan and no one posted a link. Anyway enjoy the more coherent pictures.

http://www.narutofan.com/

I guess scanlation shouldn't be too far behind.

As amused as I am with with Pein's Crab Monster and Death Chamelean I'm still expecting a lot more seeing how he's been hyped up so much with his keyser sosee attitude and ubber death eyes.

Also with Jiraya's hair was anyone reminded of the yugi oh Abridged Series?

"MY HAIR IS ATTACKING YOU!!!"

Although I can't help but wonder if Jiraiya has anything else besides frogs and hair, I know those tend to be the two mainstays of all his jutsu's but the guy has to have something else up his sleeves, right?

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Out scooped by Naruto Fan! How sad. What is the Woot coming to? Why does every guy with piecings have to have crabs? I mean come on now!!! Looks like Jiraiya called the wrong Toad or something. He looked kind of mad. I guess I will have to wait and find out.

[tehlegend]

there was that shadow control thing he used to hide in that minion ninja's shadow to control him with...

and the fire jutsu... but everyone knows the fireball jutsus are relatively useless when a main character uses it...

[Yukimura]

Jiraya's hair and frogs serve a large number of roles which would reduce his need for lots of other techniques. He also seems to have a good intrinsic understanding of the nature of things, as evidenced by the sealing of the black fire from Amaterasu and his perception of Oro's Five Elements Seal. Having enough insight and experience to make the best of the tools he has seems more ninja like than having tons and tons of jutsu just to have them.

[itadakimasu]

i hope all that dialogue is going to be revealing, otherwise it will be a slow chapter. It does look like he didn't get the frog he wanted, but at least that one isn't tiny.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Jiraya's hair and frogs serve a large number of roles which would reduce his need for lots of other techniques. He also seems to have a good intrinsic understanding of the nature of things, as evidenced by the sealing of the black fire from Amaterasu and his perception of Oro's Five Elements Seal. Having enough insight and experience to make the best of the tools he has seems more ninja like than having tons and tons of jutsu just to have them.


That would be a good plot device to seperate him from Oro even more. Considering all Oro wants is every Jutsu, and Jairaya is content with what he has.

[LaZie]

Scan out by MangaShare

http://s02.mangashare.com/releases/Naruto_374%5BMS%5D.zip

[Assertn]

haha niice.....

A little bit of an A-bomb analagy with Pein's goal? It's actually pretty clever....
I wonder how this aligns with Madara's goal.

[Death BOO Z]

well, Payne is stupid.
sucsk, eh?
I think Nouvelle (I still don't know how his name is spelled) is the one who said the same thing about his dynamite, and so did the people of Manhaten project, didn't Jiraya teach them history?
I can't understand what kind of beast does Payne summon, it increadibly stupid looking...
also, at least we know that a person can summon more than one type of cretures, might turn out as a useful information.

the new frog, Kensan, I wonder whether he is the bigger toad king, or just a warrior type toad, while Gamabunta is still the 'leader'?

also, Perhaps Madare supports Payne's plan becuase something will happen when all beasts are together, maybe it'll cuase more demons to come and overflow the earth, maybe they'll point at a legendary tresure of porn mags, maybe they'll grant him a wish (to revieve Rin, maybe?).

last thing, it might be a translation thing, but the scan says yahiko has been dead for a long time, which could imply that his death is a continous state, such as being a vegteble, or being 'morally' dead, or being 'animated zombie' dead. rather than saying Yahiko has died a long time ago, which would make his death a perremnt fact.
but that's probably a translation thing.

[Idealistic]

@Deathbooz, Pain's summon looks to be a crawfish or something like that. It makes sense, water type summon for someone from the rain village.

Anyways, perhaps Madara wants to control the Kyuubi which is why he's going along with Pain's plans.

[RyougaZell]

Well... this chapter should calm the hordes who thought the Akatsuki's 'plan' of using bijuu to be the most hired shinobi was crap.

Is Pain saying another lie?

Does he has his own agenda?

Or does Madara/Tobi approve of this???

[kAi]

After reading this chapter I got the feeling that Jiraiya isn't going to die for some reason, but he will get really hurt with it.

Pain's going to keep things in line with fear, but there will always be someone who'll go against it.

[DB_Hunter]

I don't see Jiraiya dying here. There is too much of a 'teacher faces badass student but defeats him because he knows his mental/fighting weaknesses' situtation.

Nagato seems to be quite naive. Unless he is also a cunning strategist, thinking that he could fulfill his aim like this whilst having the rest of Akatsuki on board seems unrealistic. Although some of them are now dead, I can't believe that they would all be working towards the same goal i.e. that of Nagato. Unless he has decided in his mind to kill them all once the bijuu are gathered.

[Genma]

Ah, lots of hair attacks, summoning, and dialogue. And it looks like the goal is a massive A-Bomb.

I hope Ero-Sennin doesn't die, srsly. :( He's a cool character.

[animus]

This kinda makes me think of Metal Gear Solid

[February]

lots of weird looking summons in this chapter, the last summon by Nagato seems kind of like a Chimera to me, because of the snake tail. Not really any unique new jutsus shown, but I have great hopes for Nagato's jutsus....and i wonder how his multiple bodys will turn out for combat. Im still desperate for the Sasuke v Itachi confrontation rather than this

[KCMmmmm]

This kinda makes me think of Metal Gear Solid

Why? I love MGS. Best game series ever.

I thought the chapter was good. Total teaser though, wasn't it? We need to find out how Yahiko died. No doubt the pain from losing his friend resulted in his becoming a "god".

Yeah, I am more hyped up on the Itachi/Sasuke confrontation than this one. Not that this isn't great, but the other has been so long in the making, we need to get some closure on it.

[animus]

Why? I love MGS. Best game series ever.

I thought the chapter was good. Total teaser though, wasn't it? We need to find out how Yahiko died. No doubt the pain from losing his friend resulted in his becoming a "god".

Yeah, I am more hyped up on the Itachi/Sasuke confrontation than this one. Not that this isn't great, but the other has been so long in the making, we need to get some closure on it.

I forget which game it was, but I think it was 2 where they were like "We'll sell Metal Gears to the highest bidding country so they can easily get rid of their opposition." Payn's plan made me think of it.

And yeah, I'm a total fan of the MGS series. Too bad I got a 360, if I had money I'd get a PS3 just for MGS4, and maybe FF 13 on the side. But, oh well besides those 2 there's nothing much to look forward to unless I'm mistaken. /end offtopic post.

[joker-kun]

I thought the chapter was good. Total teaser though, wasn't it? We need to find out how Yahiko died. No doubt the pain from losing his friend resulted in his becoming a "god".

I think Madara got Pein to kill Yahiko in the same way Itachi supposedly killed his clan for the mangkeku sharingan. He had to kill his closest friend in order to become a "God".

I'm also thinking that maybe what Itachi wanted to tell Naruto was that Jiraiya is in danger and he better haul ass to help him.

The latter prediction is much more based on speculation though.

[Assertn]

Would Konan support Pein if he was the one who killed Yahiko though? It seems both of them have experienced a similar change, even though Pein's might be more noticable.

[TwisT]

I wanna know what happened to Zetsu. Since they usually fight and die in the order of strength and position Zetsu should fight before Pein. At least if you look at most shonen series. And since Tobi turned out to be Madara one could ask himself if Zetsu is actually stronger or considered "higher" in rank then Pein by Madara himself. I mean Tobi was introduced to Akatsuki by Zetsu. They knew each other from before. So did Zetsu know Tobi as weak Tobi or did he know he was Madara? I've been thinking ever since Tobi turned out to be Madara that Zetsu might be his secret partner. Because we have seen everyone fight so far except Zetsu. And if Pein would be defeated and/or killed in this arc that would mean the leader of Akatsuki would go down before all subordinates. I know Kisame and Itachi are still alive but they are linked to the Utchia-storyline. But Zetsu isn't linked to the story in any way so far. And if the leader is defeated the group should disband and scatter. And i don't see why they would introduce a character like Zetsu and then he would just disappear without even showing anything. Well this have been on my mind for a while now so i just had to ask :)

This of course assumes that Pein will be defeated in this arc. Even if not by Jiraiya then someone else.

Also Zetsu seem to be much cooler then Pein at this moment because Zetsu has many traits that are interesting and cool where Pein only seem to be cool in the "awesomely powerful" way. But now that we know much of his backstory and history, his character and personality isn't that great IMO. Well at least the fight is on. I hope we get to see allot of jutsus rather then just a big summon war like the Sannin-fight. Also i hope we get to see what that eye can truly do that makes it stronger then the Sharingan and Byakugan. Although Peins chimera summon are pretty cool. That a summon isn't just a fixed species. It looks like a chameleon with a snake-tale and a talk/tentacle that seem to be coming out at the base of the neck which seem to be pieced by several spikes.

[February]

I wanna know what happened to Zetsu. Since they usually fight and die in the order of strength and position Zetsu should fight before Pein. At least if you look at most shonen series. And since Tobi turned out to be Madara one could ask himself if Zetsu is actually stronger or considered "higher" in rank then Pein by Madara himself. I mean Tobi was introduced to Akatsuki by Zetsu. They knew each other from before. So did Zetsu know Tobi as weak Tobi or did he know he was Madara? I've been thinking ever since Tobi turned out to be Madara that Zetsu might be his secret partner. Because we have seen everyone fight so far except Zetsu. And if Pein would be defeated and/or killed in this arc that would mean the leader of Akatsuki would go down before all subordinates. I know Kisame and Itachi are still alive but they are linked to the Utchia-storyline. But Zetsu isn't linked to the story in any way so far. And if the leader is defeated the group should disband and scatter. And i don't see why they would introduce a character like Zetsu and then he would just disappear without even showing anything. Well this have been on my mind for a while now so i just had to ask :)

This of course assumes that Pein will be defeated in this arc. Even if not by Jiraiya then someone else.

Also Zetsu seem to be much cooler then Pein at this moment because Zetsu has many traits that are interesting and cool where Pein only seem to be cool in the "awesomely powerful" way. But now that we know much of his backstory and history, his character and personality isn't that great IMO. Well at least the fight is on. I hope we get to see allot of jutsus rather then just a big summon war like the Sannin-fight. Also i hope we get to see what that eye can truly do that makes it stronger then the Sharingan and Byakugan. Although Peins chimera summon are pretty cool. That a summon isn't just a fixed species. It looks like a chameleon with a snake-tale and a talk/tentacle that seem to be coming out at the base of the neck which seem to be pieced by several spikes.

o my god..my eyes are bleeding...please use smaller paragraphs! And I didnt know that someone noticed Zetsu THIS much...I only thought about that guy when I saw him in the manga which totals to less than a minute

What you might be saying could be true, that Zetsu and Tobi secretly know each other, but have you thought of the other alternative? Pein could have told Zetsu to invite Tobi in. So Zetsu doesnt have to have had past relations / strong connection with Tobi, after all.

And I disagree about Zetsu being cooler than Pein. Pein is a rain-making student of Jiraiya who has multiple bodies. Zetsu is a piece of venus fly trap

[Assertn]

What you might be saying could be true, that Zetsu and Tobi secretly know each other, but have you thought of the other alternative? Pein could have told Zetsu to invite Tobi in. So Zetsu doesnt have to have had past relations / strong connection with Tobi, after all.
Well that wouldn't make sense...
Why would Zetsu imply that Tobi might not be accepted to the club if Pein was the one who personally requested him?

[dsh1202]

Zetsu will probably fight sometime soon but he shouldn't be much of a threat, he seemed like he was only for observation missions, like a spy. One of the main characters like, naruto or sakura will defeat him in like a couple minuets of fighting.

[Idealistic]

Zetsu will probably fight sometime soon but he shouldn't be much of a threat, he seemed like he was only for observation missions, like a spy. One of the main characters like, naruto or sakura will defeat him in like a couple minuets of fighting.

Are you kidding me, he must have a venus fly trap jutsu that holds the opponent and sucks their chakra or some crap.

Or itll have teeth like a Victorybell or whatever that pokemon is and eat up the enemy.

And tentacle/vine rape people.

[Tobydelaroka]

meh.. Pein summon a lobster or crab ?? o.o
looks liek a lobster to me D: yummeh
the toad demon? another secret weapon? omg..
is that the next chapter title ?
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8108/nextchapterhk9.jpg

[Assassin]

i like the backsotry on pein and konan. finally some decent plot development, instead of just introducing a shitload of strong characters with werid powers who never get any backstory.

Also, jiraya is a badass mofo. He's trained like every super leet shinobi in the naruto world.

Still curious to see what madara has to do with it all. maybe he wants pein's eyes, since they're supposedly even stronger then the sharingan. And on that note, how did he get pein to even obey him? if pein see's himself as a god, why take orders from a 'lesser' being.

[Darthmoe]

Unless Tobi is Pein's third partner who supposedly "died" and was "re-born" by taking sharingan from some sucka.

[DB_Hunter]

Which leads to the question why was Orochimaru still after the Sharingan without ever mentioning the Rin'egan?

[Idealistic]

Which leads to the question why was Orochimaru still after the Sharingan without ever mentioning the Rin'egan?

He probably didn't know there was someone who was alive with that bloodline.

Which makes me think..... That since we all know Oro isn't dead yet, he will see the Rin'egan and then try to take over Pain's body!!

dun dun dun!

[Abdula]

You people seem to be forgetting that Orochimaru's goal was to learn every jutsu in existence
something the Sharingan would have easily given him the ability to do.

Don't get too excited about Rin'negan most likely it is so highly regarded because it must be extremely rare.I mean up until Itachi the Sharingan and Byakugan were not only famous but also very common the latter of which still is.

While i may not be able to dispute the fact that it is the most powerful at the moment, i remind you that "POWER" especially in the Naruto world doesn't mean much. I mean its been said that the Byakugan is more powerful that Sharingan but i doubt a Hyuuga would stand a chance against an Uchiha simply because of the different abilities each doujutsu gives the user. Abilities>Power

[animus]

It's never been said that the Byakugan is more powerful than the Sharingan, I'm pretty sure.

[KCMmmmm]

It's never been said that the Byakugan is more powerful than the Sharingan, I'm pretty sure.

I believe this comes from the battle between Neji and Hinata (the introduction into the power of the Byakuugan), when Kakashi stated that "the Byakuugan's power of insight is greater than that of the Sharingan."

Meaning that the Byakuugan can see through objects, something that the Sharingan cannot (or only has limited ability) to do. It has never been formally stated which is more powerful...but based on what we've seen, I would assume the Sharingan to be the more powerful of the two.

Byakuugan allows the user to see through objects - with only a single blind spot in a 360° range, without even turning their head. It also allows them to see chakra currents (as well as organs) within the body. The final major ability of Byakuugan is that it seems to help enable the user to better manipulate their own chakra stream....culminating in the ability to focus at specific points and interrupt another's stream by injecting their own chakra into it.

Sharingan can see chakra - though not as detailed as Byakuugan. It can also be used to cast Genjutsu - with and without the Mangekyou power-up. It's ability to break down all actions in near-slow-motion allows the user to see and even copy any jutsu automatically (which is why Orochimaru wanted it). This is not even to mention the abilities it is given with the Mangekyou upgrade.

So...Byakuugan and Sharingan are completely different, and neither is an extension of the other.

[Honoko]

Apparently, no one thought the animal Pein summoned was a chameleon?

edit: oh wait, TwisT did. He snuck it in the second monster paragraph. My bad.

[Idealistic]

Apparently, no one thought the animal Pein summoned was a chameleon?

edit: oh wait, TwisT did. He snuck it in the second monster paragraph. My bad.

Well considering it had claws and looked like it shot out bubbles....

[February]

And the thing about Byakugan is that it isnt as effective unless you learn juuken (gentle fist palm fighting style of the Hyuuga clan) Of course, Byakugan will let you be alot more aware of the things around you and let you spy on others but other than that, I dont really see Byakugan as a useful combat tool if you cant spit out huge amounts of chakra through your palm to damage other people's inner organs.

Sharingan has so many abilities that it seems unfair :
- gives chakra different color/ chakra vision
- Jutsu copying function
- ability to predict/see incoming movements (taijutsu)
- genjutsu power
- Mangekyu Sharingan abilities
- and the nifty ability to turn it off while Byakugan users are stuck with a huge white eye =)

but from watching the entire series, it leads me to believe that the sharingan is more chakra tiring, especially when the MS is activated.

But I do know that Byakugan can't tell the real bunshin from a group of kage bunshins but I dont remember if Sharingan could or not (it was during the Chuunin exam when Sasuke tried to see the real bunshin from the ninjas attacking them in the forest)

My guess is that a
Beginner level Byakugan user > Beginner level Sharingan user
Medium level Byakugan user < Medium level Sharingan user
Expert Byakugan user <<<<<<< Expert Sharigan user

But I guess this all depends on the situation of the fight, the abilities used, and the chakra, strategy and all that.

[Idealistic]

Why do people keep comparing Sharingan and Byakugan for. So what if one is the evolution of the other? The two of them are almost, if not COMPLETELY different.

And with what February said, it's pretty much safe to say Sharingan > Byakugan. You lose striking Chakra points and seeing into the distance, but you gain so much more.

[KCMmmmm]

Why do people keep comparing Sharingan and Byakugan for. So what if one is the evolution of the other? The two of them are almost, if not COMPLETELY different.

And with what February said, it's pretty much safe to say Sharingan > Byakugan. You lose striking Chakra points and seeing into the distance, but you gain so much more.

The whole point of my post was to highlight the differences between the two so that people would stop comparing them. Although, I like how you followed your complaint about people's tendency to compare the two by immediately doing just that.

[Assassin]

just a few things i wanna comment on. a few posts back someone said that oro couldn't have known about the renigan or whatever, but the eyes are clearly visible in the hologram of the akatsuki leader nearly everytime we've seen him, so oro must have known.

second, sharingan > renigan. as much as i hate to say it, its true. sure, they said that renigan was the most feared of the 3 eye techniqus, but becuz kishimoto gets an orgasm every time he see's a sharingan, it'll always be the better of the 3, despite what the 'real' case may be. Its the reason paine is taking orders from uchiha madara.....no matter what happens, somehow a sharingan user (ie: and uchiha) will come out on top....its fucking retarded.

[February]

just a few things i wanna comment on. a few posts back someone said that oro couldn't have known about the renigan or whatever, but the eyes are clearly visible in the hologram of the akatsuki leader nearly everytime we've seen him, so oro must have known.

second, sharingan > renigan. as much as i hate to say it, its true. sure, they said that renigan was the most feared of the 3 eye techniqus, but becuz kishimoto gets an orgasm every time he see's a sharingan, it'll always be the better of the 3, despite what the 'real' case may be. Its the reason paine is taking orders from uchiha madara.....no matter what happens, somehow a sharingan user (ie: and uchiha) will come out on top....its fucking retarded.

I dont think its confirmed that the sharingan is one of the 3 eyes. The bolded part of your paragraph makes it seem like you were talking about the sharingan as one of the three eyes. In fact, its probably unlikely that it is.
Sharingan deserves to be orgasmic....its badass. (excuse my fanboyness) .

[animus]

I dont think its confirmed that the sharingan is one of the 3 eyes. The bolded part of your paragraph makes it seem like you were talking about the sharingan as one of the three eyes. In fact, its probably unlikely that it is.
Sharingan deserves to be orgasmic....its badass. (excuse my fanboyness) .

Do you even read the manga? How painfully obvious was it when the Rinnegan was introduced as the strongest of the 3 Doujutsu eyes, that the other two were Byakugan and Sharingan? What would be the point of introducing another 2 Doujutsu types when there are already 2 famous, and extremely potent doujutsus.

[February]

Just because they didnt introduce the other possible eye bloodlines doesnt mean they don't exist. And just because they're famous doesnt mean they are the other 2 eye types.

And also, byakugan doesnt have doujutsus.

And yes, I do read the manga

EDIT: Spelling

[mage]

Just because they didnt introduce the other possible eye bloodlines doesnt mean they don't exist.


And also, byakugan doesnt have doujutsus.

Just because they didn't introduce possible byakugan doujutsus doesn't mean they don't exist.

There are also 25 tailed demons in Naruto, they just haven't been introduced yet. Just wait.


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[Assassin]

dude, you're a fucking idiot. you honestly think they were talking about some completely new set of eye bloodlines, and NOT the 2 that we've been introduced to?

Besides, it was my understanding that doujutsu meant 'eye technique". I believe kakashi mentions it during team 7's first mission, when they encounter the 2 mist nin hiding in the puddle.

[Yukimura]

And also, byakugan doesnt have doujutsus.


So when Hinata and Neji say 'Byakugan' and veins pop out around their eyes and their vision expands to be telescopic and panoramic you don't consider that an eye technique.

Also, In reference to your post about expert Sharingan users being better than expert Byakugan users, we've only really seen Neji fight a serious life threatening battle, we've never seen his uncle face an opponent that would make him push his Byakugan to the limit. There's no way to know how much more he might be able to do or if the Byakugan has deep secrets of its own and knowing Kishi we will probably never find out. However, there has to be a reason the Hyuuga's are considered nobility while the Uchiha's were generally just highly respected civil servants.

EDIT: Nothing has been revealed so far that can distinguish a shadow clone from an original since shadow clones are living physical bodies and the only difference between them and the original is that they disintegrate upon being struck. But I I wouldn't put it past Kishi to give the Rin'negan the ability to tell them apart somehow.

[Psyke]

Just to clear up some terms:

忍術 - Ninjutsu - Ninja arts/technique
体術 - Taijutsu - Body/physical technique
幻術 - Genjutsu - Illusion arts/technique
瞳術 - Doujutsu - Eye techniques
呪印術 - Juuinjutsu - Curse techniques
封印術 - Fuuinjutsu - Sealing techniques

:)

[KCMmmmm]

Just to clear up some terms:

忍術 - Ninjutsu - Ninja arts/technique
体術 - Taijutsu - Body/physical technique
幻術 - Genjutsu - Illusion arts/technique
瞳術 - Doujutsu - Eye techniques
呪印術 - Juuinjutsu - Curse techniques
封印術 - Fuuinjutsu - Sealing techniques

:)

Thank you. We've needed this for a long time.

I think we should drop the Byakuugan/Sharingan dispute. It always comes down to individual ability. Itachi would still be a genius and a badass without Sharingan. The point is to make do with what you have. Accent your strengths to counterbalance your weaknesses. That sort of thing.