Manga: Team Medical Dragon

[Death13a]

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=718
"From Nexgear:
Team Medical Dragon focuses around a genius surgeon, Asada Ryutaro, who's methods have made him a bit of a renegade in the eyes of Japanese doctors. The manga exposes the "illness" of the Japanese hospitals and how their system is not designed to care for the patient.

The manga is appropriate for mature audiences and contains blood, nudity, harsh language, and sex."

This manga has very strong GTO feeling; the only major difference is that it set around hospitals instead of school.
The are 14 volumes and continuing, Nexgear latest scanlated v5 c35.
The only backdrop is that Nexgear scanlates VERY slowly (imo).

[animus]

It's more like they just stop doing stuff completely for huge periods of time =/

[February]

Is that the only group that subs this series? I mean, I think up to 16 volumes are out but only 5 volumes have been translated...does any other group sub these? I am desperately in search of it =(

[Death13a]

v6 ch40 is out by ect (http://et-caetera.net/) i doubt speed will improve too much but it something then almost nothing.

[Ryllharu]

The first medical manga I've come across since RAY? Count me in. The art looks good too.

[Munsu]

I had read a couple of volumes of this series about a year ago. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I stopped for whatever reason. Hopefully I can get back on it some time when I get some free time, along with all the mangas that I've stopped reading.

[Death13a]

ch41 is out by ect.

[mage]

55 is out now. I never heard of this series so read the latest chapter to check it out. The art seemed very realistic and reminded me a lot of Shamo, ended up reading all of it in a 4 hour session. Great series, very GTO-ish.

[Augury]

Team Medical Dragon is one of my favorites, but it's one of those series that doesn't seem to get much discussion. The scans were coming out really slowly before, but recently Mauzel picked it up and has been releasing one chapter per week on Sunday.

[neflight86]

By my necro powers, I summon thee... Chapter 110 (edit: whoops I mean 109) just came out. I do love how the author is able to create such palpable tension through the slow pacing and framing of the inner machinations of hospital politics.

I look forward to seeing how Kirihara tries to weasel out now that Noiguchi has taken some morbid interest in Ijujin's attempt to save the patient in a manner that could be 'criticized' (Forgive my spelling). The timing was just right to capitalize on Noiguchi's kick of 'taming' his professor candidate, it seems.

Good intrigue.

[David75]

Just read the 109 chapters after your post, thanks neflight86.

It's a good story.
I'm not sure as to why/how that manga came to be. Is it possible that the flaming of medical care in Japan is in fact real?
If so, the focus is so much on skills/med teams and the hospital internal politics that the patients become background details... when it's precisely something criticized about the medical care.

I also understand Asada is a rare breed among geniuses. But I find it strange other doctors have so low skills (maybe there's a normal one, the one that trained on rats when young). Ok the scenario needs some contrast. But here I think it's really too much.

Then there are the hurdles in the OR, with surprises, anomalies and everything happening at the last time when you have to improvise. Heck, Asada even decides he would do stuff prior to the operation, but without even telling his team.

Last but not least, there's the opposition between highly skilled team and "average" team.

It is the real world. You can't have Asuda teams everywhere, so do what it takes to have "normal teams" being able to come close to the best teams. And that is part of the work of a research institution: designing methods to train/educate med teams into improving.
And another action would to be more selective for surgeon qualification, so that their numbers isn't so high they can't have enough ops to hone their skills.

But that was still a good read.

[enkoujin]

I'm not sure as to why/how that manga came to be. Is it possible that the flaming of medical care in Japan is in fact real?


I also understand Asada is a rare breed among geniuses. But I find it strange other doctors have so low skills (maybe there's a normal one, the one that trained on rats when young). Ok the scenario needs some contrast. But here I think it's really too much.

It was written by a real doctor, so I'm pretty sure the issues are real. There are a lot of issues involved with privatized health care and how the Japanese have structured their organization, which includes how they are trained. The inexperienced Japanese doctors are strongly contrasted with American ones, who have shown to have more experience because of greater surgeries.


Then there are the hurdles in the OR, with surprises, anomalies and everything happening at the last time when you have to improvise. Heck, Asada even decides he would do stuff prior to the operation, but without even telling his team.

That's definitely story dynamics to keep it interesting.

[neflight86]

Yeah, this is definately one of my favorites. I remember a while back it wasn't being actively scanlated, so I wound up waiting 6 months or so per chapter, but now that its on steady release, I'm in hog heaven!

As for the patient focus, it is a little odd that the patients are almost universally victimized and pitiable... I believe that that may be the author's way of focusing on them without a use or possibly overuse of panel space.

As far as the criticizm of Japaniese medicine goes... this series is truely scathing. Compared to the sheepish patients, the majority of the featured medical staff are portrayed as very... clinical, pardon the pun. The oppressive atmosphere reminds me of the first few episodes of Monster, in a good way.

[neflight86]

110 is out. That was an intense chapter for there being next to no movement from any of the characters.

As an aside, whenever Noiguchi's eyes go dark like that while thinking to himself, I always image a rising rattlesnake sound that comes to an abrupt stop in the next non-negative panel, which is kind of unsettling; like his character.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 111 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/171052/iryuu-team-medical-dragon_v14_ch111_by_lively-scans)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 112 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/172647/iryuu-team-medical-dragon_v14_ch112_by_lively-scans)



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What the shit? Yaoi?

[Augury]

Things are getting weirder in the past two chapters. I don't remember the story focusing so much on psychology. The spilt milk : pride analogy was odd, and it's piling on with more like the armor and savages.

My initial reaction to 112 was that the last panel could've been a mis-translation, since "respect" or "admire" would fit better (I haven't seen the raw and don't know Japanese, though). If anything, a meaning like "I want to be his friend" wouldn't be too unexpected, but a sudden homosexual reference feels very random.

It's pretty funny how Ijuuin assumes the best of Kirishima with the small talk because that's the behavior he's seen with Asada, even though Kirishima is actually tweaking out while working on this high-profile patient.

Also:
http://imageshack.us/a/img27/180/tmdnoguchicreeper.png

[enkoujin]

Things are getting weirder in the past two chapters. I don't remember the story focusing so much on psychology. The spilt milk : pride analogy was odd, and it's piling on with more like the armor and savages.

Yeah, I think the mangakas were trying to make the dialogue dramatic to make it interesting, but it turned out to be really melodramatic.

[neflight86]

I didn't feel that "I always liked you" seemed homosexual given its place after the backstory. It (this chapter) just seems like standard character development.

I do find it interesting that Kirishima mentioned the idea that Noiguchi might 'abandon' him for Kaito. He does not seem to be privy as to why Noiguchi had him brought in, if he feels like that is a viable option for the good professor.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 113 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/174620/team-medical-dragon_v14_ch113_by_lively-scans/3)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 114 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/176112/team-medical-dragon_v14_ch114_by_lively-scans/3)


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Hopefully, Kihara can start developing his character from his chapter. Despite being an asshole at times, it's a bit sad to see him be a victim in these events...

[neflight86]

He should be happy that his mother was saved. In my opinion, that should be enough to balance out the plot karma.

Kirishima is my main focus of attention these last few chapters. While certainly portrayed as an adversary or 'bad person' sided with the corrupt medicine practices, his character has been fairly drastically sculpted these last few chapters. First, he is contented with his mediocre skill set to properly care for his patents, and will adjust their treatments to accommodate, then he reveals not a hate, but deep, genuine admiration for Asada and comes to peace with it. Lastly, until given evidence to the contrary, I believe he is trying to help grow the intern properly; an admirable goal.

I also smiled at his remark about making mistakes being a privilege of interns.

[David75]

He considers himself mediocre by contrast with Asada... but he seems to be quite skilled.
When faced with such a genius, he lost confidence and wanted to create himself a secure zone, when he probably has room for progress.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 115 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/177153/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch115_by_lively-scans)

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EDIT: Okay, I thought it was cool that Kihara somewhat redeemed his character. But was it really necessary to put down his mask? He's going to be in deeper shit than he already is with Noguchi.

[neflight86]

Agreed. This is TMD's version of a dramatic death scene.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 116 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/178425/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch116_by_lively-scans/3)


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http://i.imgur.com/wvN55nj.jpg

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

[neflight86]

Yeah... that was more awkward than intended, I believe.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 117 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/180182/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch117_by_lively-scans/3)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 118 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/181127/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch118_by_lively-scans)
Chapter 119 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/182262/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch119_by_lively-scans)
Chapter 120 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/183430/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch120_by_lively-scans)













http://i.imgur.com/hWCmK8r.png

Hahaha, the last thing on my mind if I was performing surgery on a guy would be the adverse side effect of erectile dysfunction on him...

[David75]

And that's at least one of the reasons you're not a surgeon...

[enkoujin]

You're right.

I mean I would do my very best to see that my patients wouldn't suffer from any adverse side effects of the surgery, but if I was in a strenuous situation like that where the patient was leaking a shit load of blood everywhere and I've only got one fix, erectile dysfunction would be the last of my worries. It's a simple trade-off - a healthy sex life or your life (and possibly becoming impotent).

[enkoujin]

Chapter 121 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/184649/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch121_by_lively-scans)

Shit just got real.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 122 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/186029/team-medical-dragon_v15_ch122_by_lively-scans)

[neflight86]

I'm guessing some protocol is about to get side-stepped.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 123 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/187094/team-medical-dragon_v16_ch123_by_lively-scans/6)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 138 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/214848/team-medical-dragon_v17_ch138_by_lively-scans/4)

Been a while!

[neflight86]

I was a bit lost during the last couple chapters...We go from maternal discrimination to a flashback of people I don't recognize and... spies?

[enkoujin]

Flashbacks in the most recent chapter seem to be about Masaykuki (Noguchi's son) and Katou's previous relationship. He still likes her, but he already has a wife that he's committed to. Unfortunately, he wants to divorce his current wife because they've been having miscarriages and/or abnormal pregnancies.

And yeah, there's a lot of gossip in the workplace. It's small talk with co-workers, but the small talk does have a lot of career consequences. Since there's a huge pressure in such a competitive workplace, it's easy to see why other non-familial doctors have contempt for familial ones if they're not pulling their own weight because the non-familial doctors would rather have family themselves.

[neflight86]

Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me. I must have been out of it or skipped a segway chapter somewhere to get so lost.

A rock and a hard place indeed, if even Kaito is councelling confused/conflicted pregnant women with 'Why no protection?'

[enkoujin]

Chapter 139 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/216536/team-medical-dragon_v17_ch139_by_lively-scans/4)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 140 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/217838/team-medical-dragon_v17_ch140_by_lively-scans/4)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 141 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/219109/team-medical-dragon_v18_ch141_by_lively-scans/4)

[neflight86]

It may just be the coloring of the 3rd to last page (mixed with my desire for it to be so), but it almost looks like Noiguchi is tearing up at the weight of his decision to let his grandchild perish and for the reasons he did so.

Of course, he's still depicted as a snake in the preceding pages...

[enkoujin]

Chapter 142 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/221732/team-medical-dragon_v18_ch142_by_lively-scans/4)

[enkoujin]

Chapter 143 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/224884/team-medical-dragon_v18_ch143_by_lively-scans/4)

[neflight86]

Kaito isn't as cold-hearted as I may have been led to believe, and Noiguchi's power base is essentially just for show now; seems like anyone can cross him.

[enkoujin]

Chapter 144 [Batoto] (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/226067/team-medical-dragon_v18_ch144_by_lively-scans/4)

[David75]

I'm sorry for upping that thread when there's no new chapter... but I'm watching Doctor X and felt like the synopsis/MC's background and episode events are very close to the beggining of the manga.
Of course it's not a direct copy as the MC is female vs Male, still it's very close.
After googling a little, there is a drama for TMD, so it might just be Doctor X really is mimmicking TMD.

I don't know if some of you watch drama, and if among those, some watched TMD or/and Doctor X

[David75]

Double post, for a good reason since a new chapter is available:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/246685/team-medical-dragon_v18_ch147_by_lively-scans

Did not read it for now, as I have to go to work.

[neflight86]

Only TMD could turn Noiguchi around and make him almost pitiable. As if this decaying power base weren't enough, his health is following and he sees this intrinsic weakness as something to be exploited should someone else find out, as he would have no doubt done if the situation were reversed. I also like how his fantasy of the humiliation and heckling by other staff portrays them with the same dead eyes that he is usually displays. Karmaic.

[neflight86]

149 after a long wait (and hopefully more to come):


Looks like Noiguchi is in full self destruct mode now, but I wonder what for? He's declared last chapter that he has one last gambit to play, and these dinners only serve to allow his enemies to openly identify each other...

[rockmanj]

I just started reading and just caught up....wow, these are scanlated at a glacial pace, eh?

[neflight86]

Chaper 155


Noguchi's grand scheme is a both more far-reaching and well reasoned than I initially expected it to be. Like he says, as he's got nothing to lose, it couldn't hurt to gamble it all on a plan like this, since the worst failure state would simply be retirement. Looking forward to future developments!