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animus
Wed, 06-06-2007, 07:22 PM
Episode 128 - Flomp-Rumbel (http://weedy.1.vg:8394/torrents/%5BFlomp-Rumbel%5DBleach_-_128%5BXviD%5D%5B816B963E%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash =25523713fc558b85948d8c770caee122e633c8c5)

I've never watched their subs, but I've read comments that say their video quality is better than DB's, but their translation and flow of their words needs work, or rather just not as adept as DB's.

redcat
Wed, 06-06-2007, 07:56 PM
DB - http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/b128.torrent

big_ac
Wed, 06-06-2007, 09:55 PM
FILLER!!!!!!

All I can say is....yuck.

BioAlien
Wed, 06-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Really? This episode is filler?

12345p
Wed, 06-06-2007, 11:01 PM
Yep, as I figured it would be.

BioAlien
Wed, 06-06-2007, 11:12 PM
Is it just me, or is the DB tracker not working?
(Did i got banned without knowing?)
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5870/errsn0.th.png (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errsn0.png)
Before that it said the tracker was offline, now it is closed?
Edit: Nevermind, it is fixed now.

Off-topic, Ooooh, i just learned there is a IRC client in Opera.
They sure don't talk at all on #DB..

LobsterMagnet
Wed, 06-06-2007, 11:23 PM
Looks like we've got ourselves a mini-filler arc. You can tell by the complete lack of anything interesting.

Seriously why else would you have a generic hollow battle. The hollows were always such uninteresting villains that fricking Aizen had to go hueco mundo to slap them into shape.

I guess they need the filler. Bleach anime is yet again dangerously close to catching up the manga. I mean the new opening shows of scenes of the arc that the manga hasn't even finished up yet.

animus
Wed, 06-06-2007, 11:41 PM
Adding the fact that Bounto's exist is one thing, but going ahead and making up the fact that the hollow is a new-type of Arrancar is preposterous.

Crash
Wed, 06-06-2007, 11:59 PM
Adding the fact that Bounto's exist is one thing, but going ahead and making up the fact that the hollow is a new-type of Arrancar is preposterous.

I believe they said it was an "incomplete" Arrancar, which would make him the same type as Grand Fisher was at the beginning of this arc and thus not really a new type.

In any case, this filler ep was pretty uninteresting.

masamuneehs
Thu, 06-07-2007, 12:55 AM
...Grimmjow had both arms in the post-episode "Encyclopedia of Arrancar" bit... An oversight, perhaps? Would seem so, given what Ulquiorra said last episode...

Rehashed stuff we already know, subpar animation, characters doing their normal "this is what makes me unique" bits from previous episodes, brand new story that pales in comparison with what it's interupting, and the knowledge that more is on the way next week...

I am currently trying to forget that this episode even happened.

DarthEnderX
Thu, 06-07-2007, 01:50 AM
Looks like we've got ourselves a mini-filler arc.You HOPE it's mini.

StillAlive
Thu, 06-07-2007, 04:13 AM
An overall uninteresting episode for sure and the depressing feeling that there will be more fillers waiting for us... although I'd like to know how they are going to connect playing this flute and the appearance of that hollow/incomplete arrancar.

Nintendo
Thu, 06-07-2007, 04:37 AM
i think that filler arc will continue in all june and i hope when it ends they do not start another one but continue the current.my grat fear is that they give us fillers till september (winter) like what the captain of the 1st squad said that aizen will attack on winter.

Harima Kenji
Thu, 06-07-2007, 04:41 AM
I can only hope that this will be a very short filler arc. When I saw the ep I just knew it was filler, for reasons posted above. This arc is doing great atm, so it would be a shame to kill it with lame filler.

Kraco
Thu, 06-07-2007, 04:55 AM
...Grimmjow had both arms in the post-episode "Encyclopedia of Arrancar" bit... An oversight, perhaps? Would seem so, given what Ulquiorra said last episode...

He probably just have had enough time already to grow himself a new arm. They can do that, after all, so I don't know why he wouldn't.

animus
Thu, 06-07-2007, 06:57 AM
They can't. Remember in the episode where Ulquiorra was talking to Espada #10 that got his arm lopped off? He said that he was lucky that they could retrieve his arm and reattach it, and that he was lucky his situation wasn't like Grimmjow's where he had his lopped off and his arm destroyed. And once that happened, he would be kicked out of the Espada.

Kraco
Thu, 06-07-2007, 08:55 AM
Actually anything like they couldn't wasn't explicitly said. Espada #10 was saying he would have rather have left it to heal by itself like Ulquiorra let his eye to heal. To that Ulquiorra commented #10 would have been kicked out if he had opted to do that. It could be growing a new arm takes that long a time - for the number #10 at least, and being the weakest already, it could have rendered him too weak in the mean time to stay in Espada.

However, we know nothing about Grimmjow's situation, but I'd believe he could beat that number 10 guy even with one arm, so he can take his jolly time and grow a new one in any case (well, it's the only option with the old destroyed). He wouldn't be kicked out due to lost power. Maybe he lost a position or two, though.

Inazuma
Thu, 06-07-2007, 09:23 AM
Hopefully, there is other show to watch.

Buuuutt, Matsumoto Gigai gave enough hentai lead for a decade.

DB_Hunter
Thu, 06-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Hey, ho! Back to One Piece we go!

Now all we need is for Naruto to enter in to a filler arc about how he came up with his massive yet still useless against agile targets rasengan.

DeathscytheVII
Thu, 06-07-2007, 04:03 PM
maybe its a good thing i didnt' read the manga. For a filler it does its job of keeping me entertained while I wait for the 'orohime gets into trouble' stuff. Most notably the 'booby smothering' by Matsumoto and the kid calling the 11th squad guys names hahaha

Hollows are interesting, and this partial arrancar did a decent job of putting some action in, i prefer them over bountos. The hollow/arrancar is probably some relative/murderer from the kid's past.

And god damnit, enough arrancar research time, i want the shinigami cup back! Love the part w/ grimmjow though hehe. Its so true.

LobsterMagnet
Thu, 06-07-2007, 08:41 PM
Hate ruin everyone's day but it looks like for the next month we're going to be stuck with nothing but filler. Checkout the episode titles. No manga material in sight.

128 "The Nightmare Arrancar! Team Hitsugaya Moves Out"
"Akumu no arankaru! Hitsugaya tai shutsugeki" (悪夢のアランカル!日番谷隊出撃) June 6, 2007
129 "The Swooping Descent of the Dark Emissary! The Propagation of Malice"
"Maiorita yami no shisha! Zōshoku suru akui" (舞い降りた闇の使者!増殖する悪意) June 13, 2007
130 "The Invisible Enemy! Hitsugaya's Merciless Decision"
"Mienai teki! Hitsugaya, hijō na ketsudan" (見えない敵!日番谷、非情な決断) June 20, 2007
131 "Rangiku's Tears, the Sorrowful Parting of Brother and Sister"
"Rangiku no namida, kanashiki kyōdai no wakare" (乱菊の涙、哀しき兄妹の別れ) June 27, 2007

Darknodin
Thu, 06-07-2007, 09:27 PM
shouldn't have read this thread... while the ep was kinda bad, I was massively intrigued by it, since it comes out of literally nowhere...

big_ac
Thu, 06-07-2007, 10:06 PM
Actually anything like they couldn't wasn't explicitly said. Espada #10 was saying he would have rather have left it to heal by itself like Ulquiorra let his eye to heal.

What Yammy actually said was that he WISHED he could grow his arm back like Ulquiorra did with his eye. He has to have the old one reattached because he lacks Ulquiorra's regenerative abilities. We don't even know if Ulquiorra can regenerate anything besides that eye.

Kraco
Fri, 06-08-2007, 02:31 AM
Yeah, well, you can interpret it that way if you want, but we just saw Grimmjow with two arms, so unless you really believe the only explanation is a glaring error by the animation team and the director, it makes somewhat sense to keep your eyes open to all possibilities.

masamuneehs
Fri, 06-08-2007, 03:43 AM
i personally put more stock into the previous episode, which was apparently not filler, including the discussion between yami (Espada 10) and Ulqiorra, where they make it quite clear that Grimmjow won't be growing back his arm, since Tousen burned it.

i simply see all filler as hastily made drivel that the studio doesn't care much about in getting right, they just want something to fill the timeslot and get maybe OK ratings... So I honestly do believe it is a "glaring error" on the part of the fools who were in charge of this week's installment. I mean, look at the rest of the episode and tell me you think those guys aren't capable of fuckin up like that? (honestly, they probably used exact animation of Grimm from previous episodes and pasted it in to make this week's Arrancar Encyclopedia, as the majority of that sequence has been literally clips of previous footage)

Kraco
Fri, 06-08-2007, 04:24 AM
I don't know. Before I made my initial post, I rewatched the part of the episode (DB's translation), and I for sure couldn't draw any such conclusion that it would be impossible to regenerate his arm (Grimmjow or even Espada 10). And if you grow a new arm, where do you need the old one, anyway? So, it matters little if it's unspoiled or pure ashes.

Well, if in a later episode Grimmjow still is without his other arm, then it'll be settled. Until then I deem it careless to summarily dismiss any evidence just because it doesn't support your hypothesis.

DarthEnderX
Fri, 06-08-2007, 05:05 AM
You're not seriously trying to pretend that the Arrancar Encyclopedia encyclopedia is something that's actually happenening, and thus, the things happening in it are real?

Because Gin is standing around giving Arrancar lessons to...who exactly?

Kraco
Fri, 06-08-2007, 06:43 AM
Har har. I'm not. My prime argument is that DB's translation, at least, gave me a different kind of impression from what a few people here are advocating, although I'm keeping both doors open. And now when that Arrancar Encyclopedia presented Grimmjow with both hands, some decided to dismiss it outright as carelessness of the director. I'm just saying, however unreliable it is, even I admit that, it's still there until proven otherwise.

Though I didn't rewatch that part, but if Grimmjow had lost his arm for good, somehow I think he would have been a bit more pissed off, unless he's another airhead like Deidara from Naruto. Tousen should watch his back... Well, he should if he had functional eyes to watch anything...

Animeniax
Fri, 06-08-2007, 01:20 PM
I should have seen it coming, but somehow I expected more praise for this episode. I wasn't sure if it was filler or not, but it was so entertaining I didn't care. I like the light-heartedness of this episode. It was like early episodes with the goofiness mixed in with serious action. The Rangiku shopping scenes were hot, and the gigai scene was hilarious. The first arrancar fight was interesting, though I figured a vice captain could take it (of course I thought it was just a hollow at the time). The kid was hilarious, making fun of the SS guys and getting pummeled in return. The soul burial/investigation scene was really well done, stretching it out but keeping the dialogue and deductions logical and interesting. It wasn't like typical filler discussions, where the obvious is questioned and repeated, with weird pauses and taking forever to resolve. I didn't like hearing the filler bounto background music, gave me an uneasy feeling.

The preview dialogue was hilarious!

Though I miss the Shinigami Golden Cup (where's Kon??), the end of the Arrancar class was awesome, with Gin asking who they should use next time to block Grimmjow's release scene. Too funny.

Episode rating: B+/A-

Nai
Fri, 06-08-2007, 02:53 PM
Oh joy, a filler arc focusing on the airheaded breast queen of the show. So, when did Bleach turn into VIP? Seriously, I couldn't stand this episode at all. Rangiku is okay in small doses and that mainly thanks to her ample cleavage but when we have her acting like a retard for the entire episode it just grows extremely tiresome... especially so when she's paired up with an extremely obnoxious brat. Should have done that soul burial, Hitsugaya.

As a side note, why the hell did she need Ikkaku's ( yeah, I know he's a suave bastard and all but still ) help to dispatch random filler beast #1? Considering he downed it in two normal blows it couldn't have been especially powerful. Those amazing filler powers also seems to have healed up Grimmjow just fine. I guess Kariya wasn't smoking shit after all when he proclaimed their awesomeness.

Animeniax
Fri, 06-08-2007, 10:39 PM
This filler arc has potential. It will possibly show some character development, focusing a bit on the humorous aspects of the SS members. I hope it's more than just boob jokes for Matsumoto, but I think they already accomplished that a little in this episode. Maybe during this filler run they'll take some creative liberties and elaborate on Yumichika, Ikkaku, and Hitsugaya too.

Ikkaku beat the arrancar easily, but he didn't have to worry about the soul kid, and he's probably stronger than Matsumoto anyway, even if he's the 3rd seat and not a Lieutenant.

Like DE said, the encyclopedia isn't happening real time. Look at it like an archive and imagine it was filmed before Grimmjow lost his arm, then recorded to DVD for later viewing. Isn't that so much better than going into fanboy rage mode because they missed a detail?

Harima Kenji
Sat, 06-09-2007, 07:34 PM
This filler can prove somewhat useful if they show the process of Rangiku realizing that she is too weak right now and needs to train. I don't see Matsumoto being a character that will be followed in the regular storyline, just like Yumichika. So if they show them training or realizing that they have to train then it won't be a complete waste..
Since all the main characters are training, it's up to the side-characters to do it..might be refreshing.

I'll keep thinking about it this way: Maybe this filler will be very cool and a good addition to the rest of the story. Verbally killing it before we actually see it is a bit useless I think.

DarthEnderX
Sun, 06-10-2007, 02:21 PM
Of course! Because Matsumoto is a girl, which of course means she sucks in battle and needs to realize she's not strong enough.

No. I don't think so. She's a vice captain, and one who's only been in one non-filler so far in which she obliterated her opponent as soon as she was allowed to use her full powers.

masamuneehs
Sun, 06-10-2007, 02:32 PM
she also schooled Kira (Ichimaru Gin's Vice-Captain) once she started using her Shikai Release. Funny thing though, we've really never seen her fight. She's explained her Shikai, and we've seen her swinging her unreleased Zanpaktou, but never actually utilizing her Shikai release. They always cut away and never show it...

still, she's one of my least favorite characters. I know there's going to be something with her and Gin that'll probably become important (alluded to in cryptic flashbacks in the SS arc), but I just don't like her personality. Too happy-go-lucky and ditzy. And even though she might not actually be that way, the fact that she chooses to act that way usually annoys me. I don't find her shopping or slutty dressing to be humorous at all.

DarthEnderX
Sun, 06-10-2007, 08:29 PM
It's not supposed to be funny, its supposed to be HOT!

Mission accomplished!

Animeniax
Sun, 06-10-2007, 10:30 PM
They characterize Isshin the same way, as a goofball and comedy relief side character, but it's just a mask for someone who probably holds amazing power and is important in the bigger picture. Matsumoto probably isn't as important, but her ties to Gin will play a part in the story, so I like that they're developing her character more, even if it's in filler episodes. I can't wait until they show Isshin's true self, but I love the way they've portrayed him so far.


Of course! Because Matsumoto is a girl, which of course means she sucks in battle and needs to realize she's not strong enough. No, it's because they do that with every character in a shounen anime. Every good guy is too weak and needs to train more, but every bad guy is as strong as they can get already.

animus
Mon, 06-11-2007, 08:59 AM
Matsumoto's always throwing herself at Hitsugaya, but bats away any guy wanting to get in her Shinigami robes. She's either a total ringer for authority, a shotacon, or just likes to tease kids with her Goddess Valley.

mage
Mon, 06-11-2007, 04:09 PM
Or a paedophile.

animus
Mon, 06-11-2007, 04:24 PM
That's what I implied when I said shotacon (well I implied pedophile).

WRX Sti
Wed, 06-13-2007, 12:45 PM
anyone have any idea how long this arc will last?

Animeniax
Thu, 06-14-2007, 04:29 AM
anyone have any idea how long this arc will last?
I heard they're going to stop basing the anime on the manga since they keep having to wait for the manga, so the rest of the series will be filler.