Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann

[Munsu]

Here's the commerical and preview of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4310f1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0c2ek0

Series by Gainax, hopefull it'll be good. The last series I liked from them were This Ugly and Beautiful World and Melody of Oblivion.


In the distant future, people build their homes and raise domestic animals in subterranean caverns. As a result, they live in fear of the occasional earthquake and cave-in, and have been for hundreds of years. Jeeha is one such village.

One day, a boy named Simon happens to find a small, shiny drill whilst digging to expand the village. At the same time, Kamina, a guy who believes that there is another land above the village, persuades a gangster to break through the ceiling in order to leave the cavern. Suddenly, an earthquake occurs and the ceiling collapses, followed by a big robot breaking through the ceiling.

Kamina is now sure that there is a world above them. Recklessly, he begins to fight against the robot. At that moment, another person appears from the land above. It is a girl by the name of Yoko. With a rifle in hand, she had been tracking the robot. However, all she could do was distract it. Then, Simon shows what he had found to Kamina and Yoko. It`s a mysterious robot whose head is also its body.

From AnimeNfo

http://www.gurren-lagann.net/
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4575
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6698

[Koyuki]

Nice, I also like his Ugly and Beautiful World and Melody of Oblivion. It sounds interesting. I'll check it out.

[dark maginn]

yea i liked Melody of Oblivian to so i am going to check this out

[Munsu]

First episode by ADTRW:
http://raspberryheaven.net/~adtrw/torrents/Gurren-Lagann_01_ADTRW.torrent


I liked the first episode... It at least has some nice animation and some cool characters (though they may get annoying at times). I think this will become an epic series, which many of you will like... especially when you compare where the show currently is with the opening sequence.

[Arcn3ss]

Ive always been a Gainax fan ever since Evangelion, so when i found out that they are apart of this show I decided to downloaded it. I like it thus far. I love Yoko. Dearest bouncey large breasted Yoko. Red haired, bouncy tittied gun using wonder, Yoko. Frankly, i like all of the main characters.


Iam looking forward to episode two. I hope its Yoko-rific.

Damn morning clock, we know what time it airs now :P

[animus]

Mmm, the subbers didn't make any karaoke. Oh well, not needed but nice nonetheless. Very interesting series I must say, I was kinda irked by how young everything looked. But I'll be following this.

[Yukimura]

Watching the intro I didn't think I was going to like this show much. I wasn't all that wowed, though Kamina seems interesting, but when Yoko showed up I pretty much turned right around. Shallow as it may be I think the main reason I'll dl the next episode is her.

[animus]

I was like thank god she's not one of those Kyaaaaa! girls that go around slapping people when talked about sexually, or when Simon fell onto her jugs.

[eat_toast]

Interesting. Wonder if the scene in space is some sort of flash-forward? In any case this series looks fairly promising story-wise, and I personally love the animation style. And yeah, Yoko is probably my favorite character thus far, probably due to incredibly chill she is. Simon is neck-deep in her tits, and she simply smiles and raises her eyebrows. That's not something you see to often in anime.

[animus]

The future giant-mechazord to be is pretty tight. Drills come out everywhere, and it looks pretty unique.

[animus]

Episode 2 by Nyoro~n Fansubs (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2002.mkv.tor rent)

No idea if this fansub groups any good as they're new.

Edit: Decent subs, a lot of the times the translations are different and replaced with a different phrase, like in Japanese i heard "Give me a break, Aniki" but they put "We actually won, Aniki...." Anyways, this series is really interesting, and it kinda feels like Viewtiful Joe with Mechs and stuff.

[eat_toast]

Man I keep lovin' this series more and more, and it's only ep 2. Killer animation, robot ass- kickery, and bookoo fanservice from Yoko. Too bad though, I was kind of hoping Kamina's dad was gonna come up later. This is the series I wait for every week.

As for Nyoro~n, not bad for someone I've never heard of. Their .mkv version is a much higher quality. Nice to have a karaoke, and the subbing job was pretty good in my opinion.

[animus]

Episode 3 - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2003.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 3 HQ - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2003%20HQ.mk v.torrent)

Nice, new episode! I wasn't expecting one so soon, hopefully Nyoro~n keeps this pace up now. The raw was released on the 15th, not a bad release time.

[Chaos]

Episode 2 was pretty good, though I didn't get the part where Kamina was looking at the skull and then all of a sudden was able to pilot the Gurren.

[animus]

Maybe it triggered his ambition, his willpower, and determination. He always looked upon his dad's bracelet skull I believe. Or maybe since it was his dad's skull it subconsciously triggered something in him? We may never know :(


Edit: Just watched episode 3. Man I love this series. It feels so fresh and unique, and this episode was packed with action. Looks like Yoko has a thing for Kamina, Simon for Yoko and Kamina is indifferent.

[Kaboom]

Out of all the series that have gotten way more attention this season, this is the series I find myself eagerly checking for new episodes. It's really taken a genre and excelled in it, without trying to reinvent everything. The uniting scene was classic. Can't wait for episode 4.

[NeoBear]

yeah this show is made of win and gold, has that same feeling i got watching FLCL

when she shot the hippo thingy in the forehead i loled

[Darknodin]

Kamina is a deity... he basically decides something he does will have some kind of effect and it happens.

[Ryllharu]

This series has really surprised me. It looked like a really generic mecha, but despite the fairly simplistic art, it has a really stylized look that really makes it stand out. In episode 3, where Kamina fights the beast man leader, first off, the katana takes forever to draw out of the sheath, really bringing up the tension.

Then, when he slices all the blades of grass and they just hang for a second before blowing away into the wind. It was such a simple, sometime overdone effect, but for some reason, it really just blew me away.

When Kamina smashed the Lagann into the top of his Gurren, and the drill was sticking out into his cockpit, I just started to laugh. I muttered, "What a moron," right before the beast-guy did.

That, and the hippo-thing getting shot in the forehead. I watched it like 5 times.

EDIT: It's the little details that make the series. Kamina's V-shaped sunglasses, straight out of any dated series from the 80's or early 90's, Yoko's tiny Skull hairpin, Simon...well, being a worthless coward.

[animus]

Simon's never going to get any punani at this rate.

[Munsu]

Did you guy missed the opening sequence of the series? Simon is going to become some badass character.

[animus]

Did you guy missed the opening sequence of the series? Simon is going to become some badass character.

Oh you mean the sequence in Episode 1? Heh I brushed it off, and thought that it was Kamina due to his height. But after rewatching it, yeah that's definetely Simon. However, i don't know if we'll ever see him like that by the end of the series. Maybe it's an end-all be-all pinnacle flash-forward.

[Ryllharu]

Did you guy missed the opening sequence of the series? Simon is going to become some badass character.
Yeah, but that's when I get the feeling, "He's only going to become that way because Kamina died, and Simon stepped up in his place." That's what I get for watching so many GAINAX series, a horrible case of pessimism.

[Munsu]

Oh no doubt, I have a feeling Kamina will also die... That's why people have to go beyond first impressions of the series, I think it'll have plenty of plot twists, emotional moments, and it can even become an epic series.

[Munsu]

Finally caught up to episode 3.

This is a really good series, with good characters. I liked the scene where Yoko wanted to look for provisions alone with Kamina and then Simon tags along. The human-like beast guy was really cool, and his sword fight with Kamina was nicely animated.

The gattai formation was really well done too, he can simply take Ganmen parts and simply assimilate them apparently.

Seems like Simon could develop a crush on Yoko, or he already has... still he seems to recognize that Yoko might like Kamina, so it'll be interesting to see how it develops.

[Ryllharu]

The love triangle is something else I noticed. I think Simon already has a crush on Yoko, and Yoko is blatantly infatuated with Kamina. At the same time, Yoko doesn't hesitate to shove Simon into her breasts, and she has seemed very impressed with him when he gets all determined and does something amazing with the Lagann. Yoko is a nice change from a lot of anime heroines because she's really open about everything. She doesn't scream when anyone touches her. I think Yoko might view Simon as a kid though, but who can really blame her for that.

Kamina, of course, it totally oblivious to everything and only seems to care about his pride as a 'Gurren Squad' leader.

[animus]

It's a love rectangle! Lon wants in on the action!

[AsclepiusZ]

Episode 4 v2 - nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2004_v2.mkv. torrent)

Episode 4 - HQ - nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2004%20HQ.mk v.torrent)

[animus]

Is it me or is there something wrong with the non-HQ version? Everything's all sped up and the audio's all weird.

[AsclepiusZ]

Not just you. i'm getting it too....

Ill edit my post above to note this.

[Ryllharu]

I had no problems with the HQ version, it's just the drop in animation quality. Though that makes the series look even more like classic anime, so if you look at it that way, it's not really that bad.

I loved how Kamina's idea of training for uniting involves dodging boulders for no apparent reason. When Simon said he finally understood (while dodging Ganmen) and then Kamina reveals that wasn't the reason at all, I just started to laugh.

Kamina swatting Simon away every time he tried to climb up to unite, even as he was being beaten by the beastmen, hilarious. I'm surprised how much I look forward to each episode of this.

[Munsu]

I haven't watched the episode, but apparently the episode has provided some controversies between the anime community and the animators. Apparently this was only an experimental episode, so don't expect the animation to continue like that throughout the series, at least we can hope.

You can read more about what's going on here:
http://zepy.momotato.com/

Scroll down till it starts talking about Gainax.

[animus]

Yea I noticed the art of the characters especially, and their animation being different. Episode 4 was good though, and we have 3 more additional Kamina fangirls. Too bad they aren't travelling with the Gurren Brigade.

[Yukimura]

This show is just fun to watch, the outrageousness is done well and makes it that much more enjoyable. And of course the Yoko fanservice is always nice, that scene on the side of the cliff was great, it even managed to establish that she likes Kamina but isn't sure or is in denial while providing plenty close ups of Yoko's assets.

[AsclepiusZ]

Episode 4 v2 - nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2004_v2.mkv. torrent)

[eat_toast]

Yeah... I kind of don't like the way the animation is done in this ep.... maybe it's personal preference but I like when all of the motion is carried into the animation, that's what I liked about this series in the first place, it had really expressive animation. I was about to suggest (semi-seriously) they had blown their animation budget on the first three episodes and it was going down evangelion style (eps 25,26) Good to hear it was just an experiment though. </rant>

When Boota ripped a chunk out of his ass and offered it up to them, it made my day.
It was like "WTFUX?!?!!?! lolololololol"

This series keeps getting better and better.

[Munsu]

Here's a better explanation of the Gainax controversy with 2channel for those interested:
http://animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-04-27/co-founder-takami-akai-steps-down-from-gainax

[animus]

Assholes just can't enjoy the greatness that is Gurren Lagann.

[eat_toast]

Damn.... guess internet really is serious business.

[complich8]

they .... ate Boota's tail ...

**speechless**

[?igma]

I first decided to skip this series, as I had my fill of Mecha series for quite a while. Today I decided to read up on its progress and when someone noted FLCL I just had to jump in and downloaded them :P

I wubbles it :D

[Board of Command]

I started watching this last night. This series is pure genius.

[animus]

Welcome to the club, good thing you joined early for the series is just gonna get better and better I believe.

[Yukimura]

Episode 05 - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2005.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 05 HQ - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2005%20HQ.mk v.torrent)

[?igma]

Sweet! DL'ing :)

This episode didn't mean very much to me, but I think its one of those episodes where things happen that will have consequences for the future. Not a waste of time, but I missed some humor here and there ^^

[animus]

Oh well, our worst fears came true. Yoko is now one of those girls that DO care if something pervy happens. Maybe it's just cause it's Kamina and she likes him.

[Ryllharu]

I really think it's just Kamina. She's always treated him differently than she has Simon, presumably because she likes Kamina.

[shinta|hikari]

I cant really blame her for not caring whether Simon dives into her boobs or not, since he is a kid, and she treats him like one. I doubt that she wont have the same reaction with Kamina or worse if some other adult guy suddenly smashed their face into her boobs.

I just hope Simon grows up soon and makes Yoko like him instead.

[animus]

Yeah, even though I love Kamina I'm a sucker for the protagonist and lead-female characters to fall in love. It also kinda irked me how she liked Kamina without any development really, we don't know until that hunting scene, or when she leaves the village, and the chief dude says you like him right? Simon will become a fucking G, atleast by the time the flashforward introduced at the beginning of episode 1, but no signs of Kamina, or Yoko.

[Ryllharu]

As for Yoko falling so quickly for Kamina, what more can you say, it's a crush. She saw him be super manly and badass when he fought with pride, and took control of the Ganmen, a tasks though previously impossible.

[shinta|hikari]

I think their gonna go for the female main character has a crush on the hero's bestfriend but eventually falls in love with the hero instead pattern on this one. It is kind of cliche, but I think it fits this series well, and they will probably add a lot of spice and twists to it anyway.

[animus]

It'd be nice if it did go that way. Knowing Kamina, if he learned Simon liked her, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to put them together.

[X-plicit]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but what's the deal with the guy quitting Gainax? Do you guys think it'll hurt Gurren-Lagann or help it?

[animus]

Episode 6 LQ - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2006.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 6 HQ - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2006%20HQ.mk v.torrent)

Edit: A big chunk of the episode was recaps from previous episodes. But what was new was pretty good.

[Yukimura]

Is anyone following Kamina or Order's subs having any issues with them? I don't feel like the higher resolution of Nyoro is worth the huge file sizes and plan to switch.

[neflight86]

I may have missed it, but is there any word on if this is gonna be an epic (52 eps+) series or just another half-season? I really like what we have, but somethings gotta give with animation this good. Of course I hope thats not true with this series.

[animus]

Episode 7 LQ - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2007.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 7 HQ - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2007%20HQ.mk v.torrent)

Just an fyi, the HQ is 512 megs, so yeah. The LQ last week was around 200 megs as well, but the quality wasn't that great. Seems Nyoro~n is terrible at encoding or they're working with terrible raws.

[Ryllharu]

The LQ release this week was pretty good actually. It's about standard resolution. I'd probably classify it as MQ. For a series animated like Gurren Lagann, it really doesn't matter too much.

This episode was insane by the way. Near constant action, flaming death kicks, Yoko...

[animus]

Great nonstop action, and overall good episode. It looks like the giant Ganmen base was what the badass older Simon was standing on in the flashforward at the beginning of Episode 1. And the Gurren Brigade is starting to finally fill out teh ranks and really achieve the name Great Gurren Brigade.

[eat_toast]

Episode 8 HQ - Nyoro~n. (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2008%20HQ.mk v.torrent)
Episode 8 SQ - Nyoro~n. (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2008%20SQ.mk v.torrent)

This episode's HQ is only 190 Megs!

[X-plicit]

YAY FOR 190 MB!!! Can't wait to watch!

[Ryllharu]

*spoliers*






Why did it have to be so soon? I knew it was coming at some point. The first moments in the first episode kind of gave it away, and we briefly discussed it in this thread before. When Yoko kissed him, I knew it was going to happen in this episode. I was a little disappointed, they should have graphically and violently killed that ape-man.

We've all lost something irreplaceable this day....






*end spoilers*

[animus]

Man, that was really uncalled for, and way too early. But overall the episode itself was amazing. I almost teared a bit at what happened. WHY, WHY, WHY?!

[X-plicit]

*SPOILERS*









That was the most epic episode EVER! This has easily earned itself a spot in one of my favorite animes. Kamina was my favorite character so it's sad to see him go.

[Aeon]

That was the most epic episode EVER!

Couldn't agree more, Lord Komina's manliness will never be forgotten. This ep is going straight to my ipod I have to watch it again tomorrow.

[eat_toast]

Episode 9 - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2009.mkv.tor rent).

Don't know what quality it is, download in progress.

Download complete, seems to be lower than High Quality, but not too terrible.

[?igma]

Sweet, downloading :)

[Board of Command]

Black-Order is taking their sweet time.....

[animus]

It looks like they changed the intro a bit, with new clips of new enemies, new friends, Dai-Gurren and Nia and no Kamina =(. Anyways, with the addition of Nia I hope Simon doesn't drop his thing for Yoko. It might turn out that way because Yoko is so obsessed and in love with Kamina, and Nia's around the same age/height (though a little taller) as Simon so it seems more of a match.

[Aeon]

Episode 9 - Nyoro~n (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2009.mkv.tor rent).

Don't know what quality it is, download in progress.
Going by the message on tt I guess they aren't releasing a avi this week :(. I planned on burning this show to dvd.

[rgrintz]

the avi:

http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/

[Yukimura]

Gurren-Lagann - 10 - [Nyoro~n] (http://a.scarywater.net/nyoron/%5BNyoron%20Subs%5D%20Gurren%20Lagann%2010.mkv.tor rent)

[animus]

Already, watched it earlier when a subbed released by an anonymous group or person did it. Anyways, OK episode I guess, more Nia development and more of Simon's annoying brother complex slump, as well as Yoko's overobsessity to give him up. I mean, even though Kamina was so damn awesome, they weren't together THAT long, and he never gave a rats ass for Yoko, until they kissed.

[shinta|hikari]

So true. Yoko is waaaay overreacting on Kamina's death. Compared to how Simon must feel (considering he not only idolized Kamina, but also depended on him on almost everything, as well as the fact that he feels completely responsible for his death) she should be just peachy.

And Kamina never gave a rats ass about Yoko even after they kissed. He just said some irresponsible promise he never intended to keep, since Yoko didnt even cross his mind when he was about to die. It was always Simon, Simon, Simon.

Nia is just great, and considering that she pops up in the opening sequence right after Simon and a few milliseconds before Yoko, she is going to become the main female lead, which is good since I started to despise Yoko the moment she started liking Kamina.

[animus]

Yeah, I'm a sucker for main male lead + main female lead hookups. But Yoko flushed that dream down the toilet when she offered to put out for a dead man.

[Yukimura]

Her relationship with him probably went back a lot further in her mind, and sine he affirmed her affections with a kiss she's sad as if she'd lost a lover instead of just a comrade. Simon needs to get out of this funk soon though, since he's basically dead weight.

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, a dead weight which everyone has needed to survive til now and to survive thereafter. I think he deserves his time to be in the funk, well at least much more so than Yoko (true she isnt as useless as Simon right now, but she never was much use really, except for boob service, which isnt really a bad thing)

Anyway, here is my take on where the series will go:

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb258/shinta_hikari/thelightinshade.jpg

[WRX Sti]

yeah but still it was abit sad when kamina died :( but true he didnt give a rats ass about yoko till that kiss (if it did even mean that much)

[Darknodin]

Watching the beginning of ep1 again... the guy with Simon in the beginning looks a hell lot like a beastman... i really think that the beastmen will stop being the enemies at some point...

which begs the question... is that a 26 ep series?

[shinta|hikari]

It has to be at least 26 episodes long (hopefully more), otherwise it wouldnt be able to finish telling anything it started.

[X-plicit]

I hope Simon starts fighting again soon and takes the position of leader. I don't really like Kittan.

[Darknodin]

wikipedia says 26 eps... i'm not sure more would be better, unless there is another much much bigger story (obviously the Spiral King is not the main villain, or at least its not only the beastmen, but it would need to involve much more than that for it to be interesting for 52 eps...) the pace of this show is fast.

[Yukimura]

Gurren-Lagann - 11 - [anon] (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=22211&name=%5Banon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren-Lagann%20-%2011.mkv.torrent)

Simon is back with one hell of a vengance!

[reminisc]

hrmm...is anyone else worried about how viral suddenly had enough power to fend off the dai-gurren by himself?

lol why does nia give me the lacus clyne feel? man..i won't be laughing if she becomes the leader.. -_-'


awww man i'm really gonna miss kamina's spastic believe in me, that i believe in u that u believe in me that i believe in you speech..lol But i suppose he really did have to go, he was like taking up all the spotlight and was pretty much a complete characteer. Like there wasn't really much growth for him possible since he was already super uber cool haha...

[animus]

Man finally we get to see Simon back to his senses, and in total badass glory during the fight scene with Genber. This show just gets my goosebumps out at it's best.

[masamuneehs]

after hearing much and being highly recommended, I took a look at this show, watching eight episodes in two sittings.

i'm not sure what it is, but I really felt that there was something missing up until the 8th episode. The 50 person village intrigued me, and Boota makes me laugh, but other than that, I just couldn't get into the plot, the characters or the comedy. Part of it was the almost insane lacking of the prospective of death, which came to an end when Kamina dies. Otherwise, all the explosions and cave-ins are all sound and fury signifying nothing.

I'm not a huge fan of zany, hyper action or fanservice or super upbeat "YOU CAN DO IT!" attitudes. Someone once said that Eureka SeveN was an emo mecha show, all on a moody blender of depressants and stimulants. Well, this show seems to be primarily a sugar rush sustained by cocaine. The only thing I like is that it's almost campy, almost making fun of itself and the absolutely typical shounen mecha that it embodies.

Well, that's my two cents. And, as usual, it looks like alot of other people disagree and really enjoy this show. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose

I will casually continue to watch this, but don't be surprised to not see me saying a whole lot, and I think the odds are high that I'll drop it somewhere along the way. Black Order does a great job, I'll be sticking with their subs.

[animus]

I love it, it's so absolutely off-the scale with the action. One of the reason why I liked it so much, is because of the art. You have to take it for what it is. It's not deep, it's a crazy action packed mecha anime. I'd compare it to 300, which is what came to mind.

[Ryllharu]

I was just thinking of making a "This is SIMON!" image in Photoshop. The art on the explosion of Guame's Ganmen was truly beautiful. Galaxy in the background, reference to Simon's line about drilling a hole to the heavens, and each explosion in the sequence comes out as a cross.

Nia is also very likable. Despite her total naivette about almost everything, she identified the problem with Simon almost immediately, and began to make the efforts to get him out of Kamina's shadow right away. It took a while for it to get the message through to him, and now he and she can both live their own lives. I loved her little tear-filled gasp when he came through for her, and her resolve to provide a proper burial for the other "dolls."

[Darknodin]

kickass ep... I hope Simon gets as much confidence as Kamina had... because this is what made the show for me (even though for some obscure reason, Simon has always been my fave character)

[reminisc]

Well, this show seems to be primarily a sugar rush sustained by cocaine. The only thing I like is that it's almost campy, almost making fun of itself and the absolutely typical shounen mecha that it embodies.



haha yeah that's pretty much the only reason i kept watching this show, it just seemed really different from the typical mecha anime. Like at first i was very reluctant to watch it cause it all just seemed so...spastic. But ten episodes later it turns out that it's the silliness that acutally keeps me watching.

the last few mecha series i've watched seemed to have really annoying slow and clumsy moving mechas which kinda bugs me...so this series makes me happy chappy

[Splash!]

after hearing much and being highly recommended, I took a look at this show, watching eight episodes in two sittings......

I'm not a huge fan of zany, hyper action or fanservice or super upbeat "YOU CAN DO IT!" attitudes. Someone once said that Eureka SeveN was an emo mecha show, all on a moody blender of depressants and stimulants. Well, this show seems to be primarily a sugar rush sustained by cocaine. The only thing I like is that it's almost campy, almost making fun of itself and the absolutely typical shounen mecha that it embodies.

Well, that's my two cents. And, as usual, it looks like alot of other people disagree and really enjoy this show. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose



Yeah, I have to agree with you that this show is really lacking in terms of character depth and plot. Watching 8 episodes in 2 sittings, I can see where you are coming from. I couldn't possibly watching more than 2 -3 episodes of this show in succession as there would definitely need to be a more engaging storyline to keep me into it. But I actually enjoy watching this show on a weekly basis. 20 or so minutes of this 'sugar rush sustained by cocaine' every week isn't all that bad. Its not the kind of thing of thing to go crazy over but it is decently entertaining in small quantities.

Anyways, pretty good episode with Simon back to his senses again. I really hope though that there is more to this series than simply bringing down the spiral king. 4 of the 5(?) spiral king subordinates have already been quite unsuccessful against the Gurren Brigade, so hopefully they are sufficiently close to taking down to king.
Also, I was dissappointed that Kittan simply handed over leadership to Simon. Personally, I would have liked to have see Simon fight for that position as well as some sort internal conflict within the brigade. I really didn't like how all the confusion and despair over Kamina's death was resolved for everyone as soon as Simon turned normal. There should still be feelings of resentment over a kid taking charge, regardless of how close he was to Kamina. Maybe I am just asking too much?

[animus]

There would be no Gurren Brigade without Simon. There would've been no Gurren-Lagann, there would've been no Dai-Gurren if not for Simon. Even though, Kamina was the figurehead I'd say, the motivational speaker, and the leader. Behind the scenes, it was all Simon. It's only natural that he became the leader, he's now ascending and gaining the leadership status on his own merits. Kittan knows his faults, he lead the whole Brigade into a trap even with obvious warnings. There's no one more fit atm than Simon.

[Ryllharu]

If you think about it, this show isn't much different from Mazinger-Z (anyone familiar with Nadesico should be familiar with Mazinger-Z plot and style). Simple, combining-robots mecha with an Evil Force versus a "family" of heroes. Kamina's death ("Joe!" from Gekiganger 3), his death occuring right as his relationship with Yoko turns serious, the evil cackles from the enemies, made beastmen or aliens to increase our distaste towards them. Showy Super Attacks that destroy the enemy completely and are easy to repeat. Even Nia is not unlike the Aquamarine subplot of Gekiganger 3 in Nadesico.

It's the simplicity of the cocaine sugar rush that makes Gurren Lagann great. We can go into each episode not expecting too much from it, but being pleased when they add a little depth to everything. Unlike Gekiganger 3, we know there's no chance of Kamina (Joe) being resurrected for a final showdown with an overpowering final boss thus forming the Dragon Dai Gurren Lagann Platinum. Yoko has become an extremely bitter heroine since Kamina's death and their ultra-short romance. No brief period of grief and then happily moving on. Yoko probably won't be the same for a long time. Nia identified what was wrong with Simon right away, and has been approaching him for days, unlike a quick conversation that fixes everything in an instant.

Vapid simplicity makes Gurren Lagann decent, but sneaking in depth beyond that base level, and a good rock soundtrack too, makes it great.

[animus]

It's a shame now. The Simon-Yoko relationship won't take off anymore with the introduction of Nia. Her lines now are reduced to "Kamina, why'd you have to die idiot T_T" and "I've got your back Simon!". I see no chance for her character to become anymore than a side character anymore. Her heroine role now belongs to Nia. If she's still solemn and obsessed with Kamina, her character would be dead to me. Her overreaction over the past couple episodes was necessary in a sense, but also completely unnecessary at the same time to the watchers (or atleast just me).

[Shadow Skill]

Finally! it's gotten awesome again. :)

I watched Nadesico (I found it boring), I see no similarities.

[Ryllharu]

Not Nadesico, but the anime within the anime, Gekiganger 3. Gurren Lagann is very much in line with older, more traditional mecha from the 70's and 80's.

[Everon]

Man, am I late to the show or what? Just got into this series (finally had the free time to watch a few episodes) and its got some great scenes.

After episode 11, we can get less emo Simon and a little more comedic sillyness.

[animus]

Episode 12 - anon (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=22470&name=%5Banon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren-Lagann%20-%2012%20%28704%20x%20396%29.mkv.torrent)

Beware, the file is just about 400 megs for some odd reason.

[Arcn3ss]

You guys need to download the raws and Anon's .ass files so much better then their actual releases. ( tho its the exact same everything script wise)

This is the raw you should get:

[GFX-BETA]Tengen_Toppa_Gurren_Lagann_12[D-TX][DivX6.6][1024x576][24fps][mp3][RAW].avi

Its awesome quality, 500mb but awesome nonetheless.

[Ryllharu]

I really enjoyed the part where the guys complained that Yoko was wearing more than usual. I knew it would happen too. For how slutty she dresses all the time, Yoko has been pretty embarrassed when it comes to showing more skin.

Kind of sad to see Adaine go, she was more interesting than some of the other villains because she openly hated Nia so much.

Nia's hair looks terrible short by the way. But maybe it will grow on me.

[shinta|hikari]

Im pretty sure Yoko aimed for Nia's hair out of jealousy, the bitch.

[animus]

Not even halfway through the series and it's moving at a pretty amazing pace. I'd guess that they'll defeat the Rasen-Ou in like episode 16 or so, and possibly enter a new journey into space. Assuming that the flashforward we saw at the beginning of episode 1 wasn't so far ahead that it'd be after the ending. However, I don't think there would be a timejump as he looked a lot taller, and a lot cooler in that flashforward, though I wouldn't put it past them if they did have one.

[animus]

Episode 13 - YouSubs (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=22712&name=%5BYouSubs%5DTengen%20Toppa%20Gurren%20Lagann %20-%2013.avi.torrent)

No idea if these subs are any good. Downloading to see. Still at 1 seed, and almost 300 peers.

Edit: Subs weren't very good, but they weren't that bad either I guess. It just seemed pretty juvenile, due to their lack of grammar, like capitalization, bad tenses, etc.

Episode 13 - anon (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=22729&name=%5Banon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren-Lagann%20-%2013%20%28704%20x%20396%29.mkv.torrent)

[Darknodin]

i'm not sure if i'm the only one but... I really liked that episode. Viral has always been one of my favourite characters, i kinda hope he joins the Gurren-dan. and apparently, for those of you who wanted a Yoko/Simon relationship... i guess such a thing might still happen.

[Ryllharu]

If everyone else has that reaction to Nia's cooking, what's wrong with Simon that he thinks it great?

It indeed appears that a new love triangle with Yoko in it may have started. I think Nia definitely has the upper hand in this one though. Not only does he love her cooking, he thought her haircut was cute right away. It does look a lot better in this episode than when Yoko had just finished hacking at it.

Even though it was short, I haven't seen aerial mecha fights that well done since Macross. I was really getting into the Viral-Lagann fight. Sweeping angles and all sorts of nice effects.

[animus]

That episode was simply amazing. It's so fucking zany and off the chain with all the random uniting and stuff. I love it.

[shinta|hikari]

Is it just me or was there an episode before this one that showed Simon liking really weird food?

Im not sure how I feel about Yoko starting to like Simon. On one hand, that was the scenario I wanted from the first time I laid eyes on this series, on the other, I like Nia much more than Yoko as of now. I am also unsure whether Yoko suddenly switching from Kamina to Simon with one spin of a drill cheapens her character or not.

What exactly did Yoko want to convey when she said "I liked Kamina."? Was it in past tense because he died? Or was it a roundabout way of saying "I dont like Kamina anymore and Im switching to you now"?

Love triangles are welcome, I just hope they actually have some effect on the main story and not just some filler scenes. A good example of what I mean would be the love triangle between Simon, Yoko, and Kamina before, in which Simon's jealousy and confusion actually led to Kamina's death, and progress in the main storyline.

[Yukimura]

The action in this show is still fresh and intersting, I love it. As well as the Gurren-Lagann's unparallelled ability to literally Deus Ex Machina itself out of sticky situations. But before the hijacking the use of the other flying Ganmen as Spider man uses buildings was brilliant and looked awesome.

My subs (anon) used Loved instead of liked for the Yoko scene, and I took it to mean that she was trying to reconcile their feelings for Kamina which Viral had stirred up. I don't think the two of them had yet sat down and talked about it calmly since he died. As to potential romance I don't see Yoko shifting her relationship eye to Simon for a while, it would just be weird. It would make more sense for her to withdraw from that kind of thing and focus more on her sibling type relationship with Simon and the rest of the Brigade.

[animus]

Was I the only one who thought Yoko was going to have a Kamina death scene for a second there when they fell, and Simon held Yoko in his arms? I have a feeling she might die later in the series as well.

[Ryllharu]

The only one around here to die would be Simon, since Yoko's is the Kiss of Death. But since we saw him alive in the opening moments of the series (also notably with some Beastmen in his crew...), I'm hoping for Nia x Simon. He's the only one in the world who likes her cooking.

You could even say she was...made for him.

[Darknodin]

I just watched the preview and... is Nia Leaving?

[MFauli]

Gurren Lagann got licensed 0_o

[Y]

Episode 14's out and about. As usual, it's more crazy ass fight scenes and badassery from the Gurren-dan. I really wonder how the series is going to keep that manic energy in the second half, considering it appears from previews and from the end of this episode that the current arc is wrapping up pretty soon. I can't wait to see what the hell they cook up to defeat Teppelin and the Helix King.

[X-plicit]

Ever since episode 14 I've decided I want to keep these episodes to watch for years to come. What format's better quality to keep? .mkv or .avi?

[Y]

.mkv and .avi aren't what you need to be concerned with (unless you're planning to burn them to DVD video, in which case Black Order's .avi is probably better since .mkv is a hassle to get working there).

The highest video quality is the 1280x720 x264 clockless raws released by various groups and the anonymous softsubs are generally pretty good translation-wise (the dialogue in Gurren Lagann isn't exactly poetry).

[X-plicit]

I'm not planning on burning them onto a DVD. Just storing them. But since it's licensed I might buy the DVDs if I can find them?

[MFauli]

Episode 14's out and about.

Where?
Cant find it :-(

[Yukimura]

Gurren-Lagann - 14 - [anon] (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23006&name=%5Banon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren-Lagann%20-%2014%20%28704%20x%20396%29.mkv.torrent)

Check Tokyotosho, the RAW's have been out for a while and the anonymous group releases their subtitle file pretty quickly after each ep comes out.

[X-plicit]

Did Nyoron stop?

[animus]

Don't think so, they're just a lot slower compared to anon and others.

[Tetsu]

Nyoron did drop the series. They announced it on their site (http://nyoronfansubs.org/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1183335489) yesterday.

[animus]

Touche. They were a good fix for awhile, subs were decent I guess, the karaoke font sucked though.

[Bread-sama]

who fucking cares about karaoke when the subs are watchable? lol

[X-plicit]

Hey! Some people like singing to the OP. Not me though. lol

[animus]

who fucking cares about karaoke when the subs are watchable? lol

Obviously I care, if i pointed it out.

[Y]

That's ok, Nyoro~n was really bad compared to the 4chan subs.

[shinta|hikari]

What makes a good sub anyway? Is it the actual translation? Or the techincal stuff (like font and the like)? I doubt its the translation though, since anyone who can point out errors from a sub group shouldnt need subtitles in the first place, but Im not really sure.

[Munsu]

I can point out many errors in translation and editing, and I still need the subs.

[X-plicit]

Removed spoilers. Please read our spoiler rules

[Yukimura]

Removed spoiler I really didn't want to know that, but thanks!

[shinta|hikari]

That spoiler label isnt doing its job, since the spoilers are pictures and just scrolling down quickly gives you an idea of what it is. Its not that big of a deal though, especially in a series like this.

[Y]

BSS subs for 15 are out.

This is the big turning point in the series, and with some fairly predictable but cool twists manages to set up the third act of the series in an exiting and capable way. Apparently next week is a clip show that isn't a numbered episode, and the week after is episode 16. Looking forward to it as always.

[animus]

They don't have an encode out? I'm not sure which raw they timed their subs too =/.

[Death13a]

episode 15 Raw 466.57 MiB (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23224&name=%5Banon-RAW%5DTengen%20Toppa%20Gurren%20Lagann%2015%20%28D-TX%20DivX6.6%201024x576%20120fps%5BED60%5D%20mp3%2 9.avi.torrent)

episode 15 soft subs to torrent above. (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23237&name=%5BBSS%5D_Tengen_Toppa_Gurren_Lagann_-_15.ass.torrent)

[animus]

Thank you, sir.

[X-plicit]

Episode 15 to me is the best episode out so far. Wow, I didn't think it'd get any better than 8 but it did! Now I can't wait to see the final episode.

[Munsu]

Episode 15 was very kickass. Helix going barehanded against Gurren was great. Can't wait for Simon to grow and go into space. Helix said a lot of things while dying, like he was a protector of some sorts and a plenty of other things... I wonder the meaning of all those things. I also wonder on who was the person that last tried to fight Helix which he mentioned to Simon. Maybe one of Simon's ancestors or someone from the underground city he grew up in... not sure if it'll have any importance in the storyline.

[Yukimura]

TT Gurenn-Lagann - 15 - [BSS] (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23271&name=%5BBSS%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren%20Lagann% 20-%2015%5Bh264t2%5D.avi.torrent)

Same (mediocre) subs as above but hard coded into an avi half the file size of the raw.

Wow...this episode would have been an amazing final episode to an anime but instead it's only 15. I can only imagine what they'll pull out for the true finale.

As to the Spiral King's last words, I got the impression that he was keeping the humans down because he and probably others on par or above him, knew that Humans possessed a dangerous potential for chaos and destruction. I'm thinking that with him gone whoever he was watching over humans for will eventually show up to try and wipe them out once and for all out of fear, which could explain the giant battle we caught forming in the first episode.

[Shadow Skill]

I can't get the .ass subts to work. The Hardsubbed one doesnt play correctly for me, it's like the subs lag by half a second. :/

Nevermind, I figured it out. I had to rename something, lol.

[animus]

That was an amazing episode, I enjoyed that so much. Anyways, since BSS is pretty mediocre, does anybody know what the text that came up at the end said?

[shinta|hikari]

Recap episode?

[?igma]

Ill wait for a proper version..BSS, BS indeed.

[X-plicit]

Anon's subs are out. Anyone notice in ep 15 the Autobot and Decepticon Emblem Gunmen?
Found this while searching for Anon's subs.

http://inorpo-b.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/c1/c1d05620a70a07311782dcbc1944b9f2362b9677.jpg

http://logan-1.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/3a/3ad2ec7e030ad5ec227e99c95e074d3495d4354a.png

[NeoBear]

^ that is so freking pro lol

[oyabun]

@ X-plicit - LOL COOL!!! with the transformers movie "fever" going on!! hahaha nice one!!

The most funniest part in the episode is where each mothership from both sides where like fighting hand to hand!hehe

[Foomanchew24]

This episode is what I would have liked to see in Star Wars, big huge air battles with lots of explosions and shit flying everywhere =)

[Yukimura]

Link to ep 16 removed as it was fake.

[Y]

Guren Lagann - 16 by some anonymous party (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1360)

Download this link only if you really enjoy songs by Rick Astley.

[oyabun]

WOw just like Kamina said. A true recap episode! hahaaha I love time skips in anime, it seems that Simon is looking cool and Nia grew her hair back(duhh). How many years do you think since the Tenpelin battle?

[animus]

Man, never thought I'd get rickrolled by someone in an anime. Ouch, it hurts, it hurts so much :(

[Foomanchew24]

Man, never thought I'd get rickrolled by someone in an anime. Ouch, it hurts, it hurts so much :(

Not to go offtopic but what the heck is rickrolled, and is episode 16 out or not? Baka updates seems to be failing me recently, they don't show when new groups pick up series =(

[NeoBear]

Not to go offtopic but what the heck is rickrolled, and is episode 16 out or not? Baka updates seems to be failing me recently, they don't show when new groups pick up series =(

just think of rickroll as bullshit

IE: "aw man i went to a party last night, it was rickroll"

[Y]

just think of rickroll as bullshit

IE: "aw man i went to a party last night, it was rickroll"

... no.

It's the 4chan meme based on getting people to view the Rick Astley music video for "Never Gonna Give You Up" when they're expecting something else, and I don't know why you would reply to that question if you just wanted to make something up.

[?igma]

... no.

It's the 4chan meme based on getting people to view the Rick Astley music video for "Never Gonna Give You Up" when they're expecting something else, and I don't know why you would reply to that question if you just wanted to make something up.

What he said.

[NeoBear]

... no.

It's the 4chan meme based on getting people to view the Rick Astley music video for "Never Gonna Give You Up" when they're expecting something else, and I don't know why you would reply to that question if you just wanted to make something up.


i didnt make it up its what people on my wow server use it as if you dont agree thats fine if it bothered you well i dont care your just some (rickroll) to me anyway

see worked for me lol

[animus]

If the people on your WoW server use rickroll for that, then they're stupid, because that's not what a rickroll is. It's like the WoW players using QQ when they have no idea what it means in the first place, and think that it means crying.

Anyways, off-topic aside, there's a link by BSS for episode 16, that says RICKROLLD at the end seeing as how if they want to rickroll us, they shouldn't put it in the title. I'm not sure if it has a rickroll in it or not, has someone dl'd it yet, before I bother to? Suspicious Episode 16 - BSS (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23578&name=%5BBSS%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren%20Lagann% 20-%2016%20%5BRICKROLLD%5D.avi.torrent)

[?igma]

i didnt make it up its what people on my wow server use it as if you dont agree thats fine if it bothered you well i dont care your just some (rickroll) to me anyway

see worked for me lol

It's not a matter of having to agree with you, it's a matter of what is the truth. Rick Roll is simply what Y said and not what you or your friends/guildies seem to think it is. Not that you should believe so in the first place, when you realize most of the people only barely speak proper English..

[animus]

So, I just downloaded that file, and it is indeed a subbed episode. Though it wasn't worth watching anyways since it was all flashbacks. However, the preview is worth it. 7 Years pass, and we see a couple characters grownup like those 2 little kids. And apparently Nia is now engaged to Simon? What happened to Yoko? Did something happen to her, she leave, die, etc.? There's no signs of her in the preview. A character as big as her should have a precedent, when all they show is Kittan's mug shot.

[Yukimura]

I thought it was worth watching, it rehashed most of the best parts of the series for me and reminded me yet again why I like this show so much. Can't sayi've ever minded as little as I minded this one, but then again, if things feel rushed later on I'll be that much more ticked off.

[Ryllharu]

I thought it was actually the most well executed recap I've ever seen. Start from their shameless announcement that it was a recap episode at the end of 15. Most other series try to make it sound important by calling it something like, "memories in the rain" or try to sell it off as some important transitional episode with 10% new material. Not here. Kamina: "This is a true summary episode!"

I like the way they presented it. I watched it raw (kind of unnecessary to see it subbed) so I don't know what the text said, but the penciled drawing of the title was really neat to see. Then they presented it exactly how the series progressed. Looking back at some of the title images, you can separate Gurren Lagann into two Acts (so far). There is the Kamina Act, ending with his death, and it has appropriately garish and thug looking text for each title. Then there is the Nia Act, with it's flowery title font. She's now the main support in Simon's life. The music fit really well too with each part.

The midway eyecatch screens were a compliation of all the eyecatches thus far.

Lastly, the storyboards as the ending was a really nice touch. It was very interesting to see how much more mature looking Nia was drawn originally.

[shinta|hikari]

Just because of what Ryll said about Nia being the new support of Simon's life, Im starting to get the desire to see her dead just to see Simon suffering and in despair.

Dont get me wrong, Nia is one of my favorite characters, but wouldnt it be really interesting to see how Simon breaks down, never to get up again?

[Ryllharu]

That won't ever happen exactly that way though, since we've seen him and his crew in space fighting whatever force the Helix King was referring to. Nia may stay behind, or leave him. They've already killed off one beloved character, Kamina. Another would belittle his death I think.

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, I know. I dont really want Nia to die. Right now, she and Simon (with her leading by 15 points) are my favorite characters in the show. Just had the urge to see Simon suffering again. Its always nice to see people in despair. Belittling Kamina's death is only a bonus for me.

Nia leaving him is quite unlikely, but that would be an interesting point in itself. Or maybe Simon just thinking that she died, only to show up later, or something to that effect.

[Ryllharu]

BSS has released an .ass file for episode 17 that works with the majority of the raws.

About the episode:

The time jump was very interesting indeed. Kiyal (the blond sister) gives birth pushing the population over 1 million, Kinon (brown hair) grew longer hair and allied with Rossiu, who has grew a bigger stick up his ass, Nia got her pretty long hair back, Simon...still badass, Darry is a better pilot than Gimmy, the old man was actually a beastman all along, and Yoko...went off somewhere.

I'm deeply concerned for Nia though. She got possessed by whatever the new things are. I have a sinking feeling right now, that Simon won't be able to save her. I hope for now it just means that she has an evil dark side while possessed, but it doesn't look good now.

Rossiu and Simon will probably fight soon, as Rossiu attempts to take power with his loyalist bunch of assholes (and Kinon, who I hope can be turned around).

[oyabun]

Is it allowed to talk about the episode even with just the .ass? The fansub isn't out right?

[Munsu]

I'll allow it for now. Don't see why it would be any different than what goes on currently.

Here's the .ass of 17:
http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23869&name=%5BBSS%5D_Tengen_Toppa_Gurren_Lagann_17%20v2. ass.torrent

Here's the raw:
http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23794&name=%5BFreelance-Raws%5D_Tengen_Toppa_Gurren_Lagann_-_17_%28D-TX_DivX6.6_1024x576_24fps%20mp3%29.%5BYS2YSUOe1cLt f%5D.avi.torrent

[animus]

Ooh, the new intro is pretty amazing. What happened to Yoko =(? I was looking forward to a Love Triangle, but I guess that was completely demolished. Anyways, it's really interesting to see it's been 7 years, and everyone's older with their relationships, etc. The new mecha's/ganmen look pretty sweet. I love this series a lot.

[Ryllharu]

I'm not a fan of BSS's encoding. The raw is much larger, but it just looks better. Like Munsu, I really don't see why it's an issue. A subtitle file is still a fansub. You can easily edit the file too, which is a plus when it comes to BSS.

Back to the episode:

I'm surprised to see the second verse of the song instead of a new song for the OP. After Kamina died, Yoko wasn't much more than a side character. The most significant thing she did was shoot Nia's hair and accepted her. It's a little sad she wasn't of much use outside the Kamina Arc.

I wonder how long Rossiu has been like this though. Since the fall of the Helix King? His organization within the government is huge, and comprised exclusively of people that were not prominent with the Gurren-Dan (excepting Kinon). He certainly seems to want to take control instead of Simon, and keep him only as a symbol. A return to his perfectly regulated underground society. Nice to see Simon thinks more like Kamina, even if it got a lot of people killed. What was Rossiu going to do, let it kill half the population with its laser?

More confusing to me at least was Rossiu's line "You don't understand at all," right after Simon accused him of wanting to turn the world into a large version of his old town.

[oyabun]

Im just asking..:D

I don't like the copy version of gurren lagan... Guns are not in vibe with this anime

[Eulogy]

could anyone tell me how to use the .ass file? i am a total retard when it comes to all this.

i downloaded both the raw and .ass file so just need to know what to do next heh. Sorry to bug yall with my question.

[animus]

Change the raw to the name of the .ass file. If the .ass file name is say, Tengen1.ass and the raw is named [Raw]Tengen1.avi, rename the raw to Tengen1.avi

[Splash!]

I love time skips. This episode was awesome. I was waiting to see some internal conflict amongst the humans and this episode delivered just that.

Things have gotten a lot more serious, just the way I like it :D

Judging from the intro as well as what happened in this episode, it seems like we might also be dealing with some sort of evil Nia alter ego. This is great, given the goody goody princess character can only go so far.

@Eulogy
Once you have downloaded both RAW and the .ass file, make sure to rename them to the same name. Put them in the same folder and just play the RAW. If you have CCCP installed on your computer, it should work perfectly

[Eulogy]

thank you!

[shinta|hikari]

Yoko love triangle going poof... WHYYYY!!!!

I was so looking forward to Yoko throwing herself at Simon and getting completely owned by Nia.

Well, I guess I can always think of it as Yoko giving up because she stood no chance anyway.

[eat_toast]

Episode 17 xvid by Bullet Speed (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23906&name=%5BBSS%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren%20Lagann% 20-%2017%20%28xvid%20clockless%29%5B02B51BA8%5D.avi.t orrent)

[Dubazlar]

Ahh, about time, I couldn't get the raw+sub to work properly.

Was a great episode, lots of new material for a new arch.

[Foomanchew24]

No one else noticed that Rossu was trying to resurect the spiral king? Looks like he wants to revive him to get some answers. The new bad guys look pretty advanced, wonder if the gang has much hope if only Simon can kill them. Doesnt look good for the 1 million monkeys.

[shinta|hikari]

I actually didnt notice, since I was too busy admiring the new GL world after the time skip, and wanting to kick Rossu in the face everytime he shows up... and talks.

Im not sure if Simon actually "defeated" the enemy. It seems that the goal of the new enemy is to eliminate as many monkeys as possible, which it achieved to a certain extent with its body broken into pieces and self destructing.

[Darknodin]

anyone else thinks Viral would do better in Rossiu's place?
and i guess the ppl that wanted Nia to die (in a way) got their wish.

[?igma]

What if Nia was never actually meant to be dumped, but instead purposely tossed in the hands of the Gurren, as a fail-safe ?

To me it's no coincidence that she responds to the new invaders in such a way.

[Y]

I just assumed that the Spiral King didn't use Nia as a "daughter" but as his communication/liason with the Great Dimensional Government. It would definitely explain why he throws them away when they start asking about who they are.

[shinta|hikari]

Id agree with that assertion. Creating that many "daughters" would be pointless otherwise.

Still, Id have to question the efficiency of actually giving a personality to a mere communicaton tool.

[KoKo37]

Episode 18 - BSS & anon (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=24188&name=%5BBSS%20%26%20anon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gur ren-Lagann%20-%2018.mkv.torrent)

[Darknodin]

whoa @ that episode. the mood is completely different than before (a bit like when Kamina dies)


spoilers below




I guess Nia becomes the enemy now. my guess is Rossiu will too for a short while. also, it seems that there are other Spirals in the universe uh...could get interesting.

[Yukimura]

Well I guess this was inevitable with the way Rossiu was acting before. He seems to be focused more on politics then the giant aliens that keep showing up and destroying things. He needs to just tell the people to shut the hell up and appreciate the borrowed time they are all living on.

The people are somewhat justifiably mad since they have come to rely on the government for support. It's been 7 years since most of them came out from their holes but it's most likely the people who never encountered Ganmen while underground that take their security for granted and are the rioting. Unfortunately this is probably the majority of the people in the city.

I can't imagine how Rossiu thinks he's going to end up in a better position if he makes Simon take the fall and puts him in jail. WIthout GL the next time the badguys show up they'll just destroy everything with their chain lasers and that will be that for Humanity, who can he not see that?

[shinta|hikari]

Im not sure, but I think he is going to let Simon go in the next episode, at least thats what the preview seems to show.

I do agree that its idiotic to lock up your only fighting force. If they need a fall guy, why not himself (Rosshu) or some other prick under him?

I loved how they depicted the disgusting nature of human beings. They really were like monkeys, not even realizing the foolishness of their actions. Unfortunately, that is true even in reality. Im glad GL is trying to handle more gritty and real situations, instead of the uber idealistic feel it had before.

[Y]

Good episode, mostly setup for future stuff (both Viral and Simon are going to jail...) and some pretty easily inferrable exposition from Nia and the extremely goofy decapitated head of Lord Genome. Here's hoping for a prequel OVA with him piloting Rasengan against the anti-Spirals sometime!

[shinta|hikari]

Simon is going in and out of jail as fast as... well, his drill?

[Yukimura]

Gurren-Lagann - 11 - [Order] - XviD (http://tinyurl.com/2g97pb)
Gurren-Lagann - 11 - [Order] - H.264 (http://tinyurl.com/2zyjhd)

Gurren-Lagann - 12 - [Order] - XviD (http://tinyurl.com/ywy8k8)
Gurren-Lagann - 12 - [Order] - H.264 (http://tinyurl.com/24bate)

Gurren-Lagann - 13 - [Order] - XviD (http://tinyurl.com/yt5e8d)
Gurren-Lagann - 13 - [Order] - H.264 (http://tinyurl.com/ys98cc)

[Ryllharu]

Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 19 (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=24526&name=%5BBSS-Anon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren-Lagann%20-%2019%20%5B704x400%5D%5BXviD%5D%5BFE9930A6%5D.avi. torrent)
[BSS-Anon] Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 19 [1280x720][x264].mkv (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=24522&name=%5BBSS-Anon%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren-Lagann%20-%2019%20%5B1280x720%5D%5Bx264%5D%5B418C08FC%5D.mkv .torrent)
There's also a standalone sub file.


[B]Episode Content:

Wow, Rossiu is the biggest asshole in this whole series. It's one thing to make a power grab by blaming everything on Simon. It's another thing entirely to take advantage of Kinon's devotion by strapping a huge amount of bombs to her and making her a hostage to reign in Simon. "What Rossiu has gone through"??!?! We all know exactly what he's gone through. He lost his mother to stupid asshole laws he's enforcing right now. His ass was saved by Kamina, Yoko, and Simon. He sat while Simon did all the work from the cockpit. He secretly plotted to control the world from the moment of Dai-Gurren's victory over the Helix King. He's gone through nothing. Simon and Kamina have taken a beating for him, giving their all to make it safe for everyone. This is how he repays their actions? They should have left him to die alone on the surface, but I'm glad they are better people than he is.

You felt a little despair of your own seeing Kittan miss him. I was convinced he would connect. What an asshole. Kiyoh and Kiyal are going to be pissed when they find out what he did, even if it is Kinon's choice.

As a side note, the mushroom cloud was badass. So was Lon creeping Gimmy out.

My speculations
I think it should be obvious that loyalists will side with The Asshole, while Simon's rescuers will include Viral, Yoko, Gimmy, Darry, Lon, and probably Kiyal (the one who didn't give birth) and a few others. Then Simon and crew will steal the Lagann back and steal the Arc ship right from under Rossiu, blow up the moon, and continue the war.

EDIT: Two things I totally forgot.

1) Kinon getting bounced around by the acceleration of the Gurren-Lagann. Totally unnecessary, a bit distracting, and totally awesome.

2) More importantly, ninja-Nia is still wearing the ring.

Simon may have come to the conclusion she's no longer who he knew, but she's in there. Whether it is to make him more tortured, or a small part of sweet Nia still exists, we don't know.

[animus]

I hate dumb bitches like Kinon, that follow jackasses that say one-liners that he intends to have oodles and oodles of meaning but are totally retarded.

[Darknodin]

ha... i personally really liked the mood of this ep. and no matter how much ppl may hate Rossiu, it was really cool the way he dodged Kittan's punch (also says that he knows what he did).

to be technical... no matter how deep they dig, the moon falling on the Earth would kill them (well unless they get to the mantle but... then they would die from that). the moon would probably evaporate the crust where it lands, and liquefy the rest of it, i doubt bacteria would survive this.

[rgrintz]

IMO Rossiu is a coward. that's why he avoided being hit and the reason why he made simon take the fall for what has happened. if he were a real man he wouls take his share of the responsibility and work through these issues. just my 2 cents.

[Yukimura]

Wow..I don't think it's possible to hurl enough insults at Rossiu to express the depths of how despicable he is. I would swear to follow Suzaku forever if it meant I could strangle Rossiu to death.

The only thing he can even remotely take credit for is the Lord Genome computer and thus ,vicariously, discovery of the ship. Everything else about him he has stolen outright or obtained without actually earning it. All the while he's making himself out to be some kind of destined hero/leader just because he's convinced of his own superiority. I seriously wish something would just blow up in his face before the end, but since Simon is such an awesome guy I suspect that even after all he's done when the shit hits the fan for Rossiu Simon will be there to save his undeserving ass again.

[Foomanchew24]

Rossiu and Kinon are disgusting, I hope they both die. Lets hope theres a Viral-Lagaan in the future.

[?igma]

It's the perfect set-up for a new season. The greatest strength of the series at the beginning was the underdog position. They never had that anymore after the first 10 episodes and now he's basically back at square one. Which only benefits the greatness of this show :D

Man Rossiu is one bastard..

[Darknodin]

funny... the show makes you hate Rossiu and he makes completely stupid mistakes... but the people seem to love him. that's kinda telling

[Yukimura]

Well he's giving the people the easy solution. Just like living underground was the easy solution to the Ganmen problem. If a powerful person offers a mob an easy solution they'll generally just take it without thinking. Rossiu is offering short term safety via running away, while Simon represents the idea of long term safety by facing the danger head on and eliminating it (which involves short term danger). Unfortunately mobs tend to be hill-climbers, only wanting to take paths where every step moves them towards their absolute goal, which in this case would be safety. Therefore they see Rossiu's plan, which only moves them away from danger, as perfect. While Simon, who's plan would lead to more danger is vilified.

[eat_toast]

Well, I hope Kinon and Rossiu both die in a fire. And it's a funny thing, because when Rossiu was first introduced, I didn't like him. Somehow, deep down, I knew he was off.

MAYBE IT WAS THE RANDOM-KILLING THING



Though after all that anger building up, it was great to see Viral,as it made me laugh imagining him and Simon in the same jail cell. Stereotypical jail-humor ensues.

[Shadowflame]

Well he's giving the people the easy solution. Just like living underground was the easy solution to the Ganmen problem. If a powerful person offers a mob an easy solution they'll generally just take it without thinking. Rossiu is offering short term safety via running away, while Simon represents the idea of long term safety by facing the danger head on and eliminating it (which involves short term danger). Unfortunately mobs tend to be hill-climbers, only wanting to take paths where every step moves them towards their absolute goal, which in this case would be safety. Therefore they see Rossiu's plan, which only moves them away from danger, as perfect. While Simon, who's plan would lead to more danger is vilified.
Haha, hill-climbing for the win! Dr. Amy would be so proud...

But yeah, now that I'm caught up, seeing how Rossiu and Kinon have changed (well, Rossiu more, since Kinon was mainly scenery before--another great thing they've done with the show in terms of character development) is just so amazing to the point of being surreal.

Although you kind of knew he was going to become like this. Sure, he could ride coattails with the best of them, and when it was out-in-the-wild, survival of the fittest Ganmen vs. Ganmen mentality, he was right there with Simon riding shotgun because there was no time or space to play at politics. But now that things have settled into an ordered civilization, he's gone right back into the way of thinking that he was immersed in at youth. That's why Simon's line about him looking like his old chief in the village was so powerful.

Story-wise, though, I love him because he's so hate-able. Look at all the haterade already being poured on him--it's because he's such a well-written douchenozzle. I guess it's a side effect of wanting to be a writer myself, but I love-love-love a good villain/antagonist that makes you actually hate him rather than see him as an obstacle. Rossiu, in this regard, does not disappoint.

[Yukimura]

Guren-Lagann - 20 (1280x720) - [BSS-Anon] (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1690)

Gurren-Lagann - 20 - [BSS-Anon] Sub File (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=2983)

[Ryllharu]

Rossiu is a coward. Surprise, surprise. Kittan was pretty badass with his shotgun. Rossiu is made the fool by the head of Genome. "Of course they work [against anti-spirals]." Shows him for decommissioning so many as "obsolete."

Once again, the ring on ninja-Nia remains dead set in the middle of the frame. Foreshadowing much?

Yoko's entrance was very well done, right through Nia's hair.

Preview: Yoko-sensei??? Will a Megane-Yoko win me back from the Nia camp? Probably not, but it's a very good start!

[shinta|hikari]

Megane Yoko sucks. Loli Yoko (like a flashback, or a kid???) might give her points though. I hope Yoko uses this chance to try and take Simon back, only to be horribly beaten again when Nia comes to.

[Yukimura]

Since I don't see Yoko-Simon as viable I've never really felt like pitting her against Nia. They should represent different roles for Simon, Nia the mate and Yoko the sister. That being said Simon certanily needs a sister figure right now, someone to help him out but not make demands on his heart and stuff.

And Rossiu...I think his despicable level has peaked and he's moved on into the pathetic range. You can see his reasoning for wanting to definately save something instead of risking everything to potentially save everything. I liked how Kittan's speech basically reminded Rossiu that he'd never had a Gurren-Brigade mentality but that the Gurren-Brigade mentality couldn't just be swept under the rug. If he doesn't want to fight then I say let him tuck tail and run, but he made the right decision in returning the key, as it's not up to him to deny those who wish to fight the means to do so. I no longer hope that he dies out in space, but I do hope he is never given authority over anyone with a backbone again.

[Darknodin]

cool... they actually explained that running underground would be useless.

so... is anyone else thinking this won't get back to the beginning? or that if it does, it'll end there?

[Everon]

They've got a enough episodes to wrap it up nicely. I'm sure we'll see the final battle too.

[masamuneehs]

dunno if people here know about this or not (or care) but the TTGL character songs are available here:
Nipponsei - TTGL - Character Songs (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BNipponsei%5D%20Tengen%20Toppa%20Gurren%20Lagann %20Character%20Song%20%5BVarious%5D.zip.torrent)

essentially, they're songs that the voice actors and actresses do, but are almost never included as part of the actual soundtrack or show. Just figured I'd drop this here for whoever wanted

[Ryllharu]

Class 3-B? Yomako-sensei???!?
Yeah, yeah...

[BSS-Anon] Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 21 [1280x720].mkv (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1770)
[BSS-Anon] Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 21 [704x400].avi (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1771)

[Yukimura]

Just when I was over Yoko's outfit, new Yoko shows up with an even better outfit... She makes the cape work quite well (better than the old scarf). Yomako-sensei was nice as well to in a Yomiko Readman sort of way.

I'm ashamed to say Viral's role snuck up on me, I mean who else would it be other than that...

[Splash!]

Good episode even though it only really got exciting near the end.



I'm ashamed to say Viral's role snuck up on me, I mean who else would it be other than that...

You are not the only one. I was expecting viral to pilot his own ganmen and fight alongside the Dai-Gurren Brigade. I too forgot that there was already a place for him in Gurren's cockpit. During the last few episodes, I didn't even care about who was in there anymore. Simon seemed to perform well enough on his own, regardless of whether Rossiu, Kinon, Yoko or even Kamina himself were present. In fact, I don't even think they showed anyone in the cockpit when Simon fought the very first mugan that ended up taking most of the city with it, leading me to believe that Gurren Lagann didn't even need a 2nd pilot.

Anyways, Viral was the most obvious choice ,but yeah, it totally slipped my mind. Viral actually has some skill and experience with Ganmen, whereas for Kamina, it was all about Impulse and being caught in the spur of the moment. Therefore, it will be interesting to see how much more Gurren Lagann can now accomplish.

On another note, this episode was the first time they actually mentioned that spiral energy worked through will power and morale, although most of us already figured that would be the case. No wonder Kamina was having such success with machines he had never even handled before.

[shinta|hikari]

I think that the GL can be piloted by Simon alone. But it always helps to have someone with something other than just guts (ie. skills) to handle half of the work.

[Darknodin]

I think that the GL can be piloted by Simon alone. But it always helps to have someone with something other than just guts (ie. skills) to handle half of the work.


actually... it gives them more spiral energy.


good episode, setting things up nicely for the next battle. i actually still don't really like Yoko but she freed Simon, so she gotta be somewhat useful.

[shinta|hikari]

Does it work that way for the GL? I thought only Simon can give the GL spiral energy (ie Kamina's death just because Simon was distracted, Kamina was burning with fighting spirit but it didnt help a bit)

[Ryllharu]

Force of will alone did get the Gurren to start up when Kamina first hopped in. We know now from the Genome that they run off spiral energy too, and were built for the sole purpose of fighting anti-spirals ("Of course they work." - best line to shut up Rossiu). The graphics always responded to Simon, but Kamina fed the GL a lot of energy. The Giga Drill super attack was mostly him.

Simon was a large factor, but the Gurren-Lagann always worked best when the Simon and his copilot were in concert. Viral isn't the best match, but if they could never kill him before, and now you literally can't kill him...

[animus]

Wasn't it said that the beastman aren't a spiral race or whatever? Wouldn't that mean he wouldn't feed the GL any energy?

[Darknodin]

they are spiral beings. but they were probably sterile or something not to get past the 1 million mark

[KoKo37]

[BSS-Anon] Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 22 (1280x720) (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1841)

[oyabun]

ARC GURREN LAGAN KICKS ASS!!! so maybe the AGL(arc gurren lagan) will also combine with the new ship in the future?

[shinta|hikari]

thats a safe bet I think.

[animus]

God I love this show, I thought it was fucking badass before. Now it just keeps breaking these levels over and over. Love it.

[Splash!]

Arc Gurren Lagann literally PUNCHED a hole in the space time continuum :eek:

One can only imagine what a Cathedral Terra Lagann will do.

[Yukimura]

This show is just purified awesomeness. Every time you think they've hit the pinnacle of the screw-logic-all-you-need-is-heart attitude they just explode to another level. And somehow all the cheesy things they throw in like the Shout Outs before attacks and stuff fit in perfectly well. I can't even begin to imagine how they're going to end it.

[GurrenLagann]

Last episode can be defined as



"HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WHAT THE HELL!! "

[Death13a]

Last episode can be defined as



"HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WHAT THE HELL!! "

That would be wrong definition since this anime already uses that definition.

[GurrenLagann]

That would be wrong definition since this anime already uses that definition.
You're right



the ending will be beyond any definition

[Ryllharu]

Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 23 [1280x720 x264][4007292D].​mkv (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1939)
[BSS-Anon] Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann - 23 [704x400 XviD][AE32ED93].​avi (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1940)

[b]episodic content below


Wow. It's hard for a series to turn me around so easily on a character I've grown to hate, but Gurren Lagann does it again with Rossiu. He falls so far, and even comes to a point where I'm thinking, "Do it." A punch to the face and a hug from Kinon changes everything (I did always like her new look).

I really loved the technobabble sections, where everyone just kind of starts drooling and not paying attention, like several members of the audience do when it starts to go way over your head (...looking at you Ghost in the Shell).

Nice 70s mecha inspired costumes too at the end.

It's really the little touches though, like Kiyal making faces at her infant niece while important conversation is going on in the foreground.

[animus]

Haha another episode that was simply superb. Honestly, I was doing what Kittan was doing the whole time when he saw Yoko's new outfit.

To be honest, some of this is so over the top and crazy that normally you'd dislike it, but when it's done in TTGL you just can't help but love it. Such as pulling out the F'ing moon by using dimension ripping drill anchors. It just oozes awesome.

[Yukimura]

Some how this series just pulls it together EVERY episode. I thgought this was going to be a boring reflection ep and then it turns out to pretty much redeem Rossiu, revive the Kamina Fist of Self-Respect, and give the costume designers another chance to go crazy. All while staying interesting and fresh the whole time.

P.S. What is up with Yoko's space outfit? She looks like she should be hanging off (Black) Michael Jackson's arm back in the 80's, which isn't actually such a bad look, but it's just totally random.

[Ryllharu]

Yoko's outfit is very 70s mecha inspired. It's almost reminiscent of Grendizer, like this "reinvisioned" figure below:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3884/68360595ep2.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=68360595ep2.jpg)
But with a lot more holes cut everywhere.

A lot of this series is a spiritual successor to Mecha's past. Death of a mentor and brother figure, giant bosses which always carry the title of King. Extradimensional foes, sexy female leads that the main hero never gets with, the lost princess corrupted by the enemy (last time I remember that was G Gundam), etc.

There's just updates everywhere. Most recently Rossiu's attempt to kill himself meant not jumping into a nearby ocean, but blowing his head off. A super punch that isn't a flaming fist, but rather punches a hole in space-time. Genetic manipulation instead of some made up technology.

[GurrenLagann]

Dare i say Yoko outfit reminds me of Meer from Seed Destiny

[Shadowflame]

This anime has done what it set out to do, and I predict it will continue to do so for the final episodes. It's repeatedly smashing through whatever limits of awesome I think it's going to reach. It has truly earned the name Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

And I was astounded as well at the character turnaround of Rossiu. That punch though, it was even more than what Kamina gave Simon when he was in his slump. Simon literally flew fist-first into Rossiu's face. Dude must have a tough jaw or something.

The star theme on Yoko's outfit does kinda point toward Meer, so I see where you're coming from, GL.

[AbstractTheorem]

Blackorder and KickAssAnime Released a subbed DVD rip version of episodes 1 & 2.

Here is a link to the torrent for anyone interested:

[Order-KAA]_Tengen_Toppa_Gurren-Lagann_01-02.DVD.torrent (http://kaa.animeconnection.net/torrentpage/torrents/%5BOrder-KAA%5D_Tengen_Toppa_Gurren-Lagann_01-02.DVD.torrent)

Quick Note: a lot of the TTGT releases that groups are doing come from HD 720p sources, so if you get the h264 version of episodes mostly and they lack a timecode (that annoying ass clock in the upper left) there is a good chance you might have a better than DVD quality copy already.

[AbstractTheorem]

Each week BSS (Bullet Speed Subs) and ADTRW (For those who re interested orgin of name here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_rape)) duke it out over who is gonna spit out the next episode of TTGL the fastest; as of late BSS has been a bit slower (by a few hours), but does a better quality job subbing.

for those of you who dont want to wait ..... here is the ADTRW sub file link, and the Raw they worked it from:

http://www.raspberryheaven.net/wiki/Gurren-Lagann_24 sub file (just cut and paste it into a txt file)
http://tracker.anirena.com/details.php?id=2004 link to RAW torrent

When BSS releases, should be located at:
http://bss.110mb.com/
or
http://groups.google.com/group/bssfs (in the files section)

or they might release at both sites..... anyway I am off to watch #24 enjoy

[animus]

ADRTW subs are god awful. I tried watching the one they had for 22, and the raw or codec they used were terrible, their subs sucked, it was filled with grammatical and spelling errors, odd phrasing, lack of any karaoke. And their subs were pretty juvenile. I honestly understood the episode with a better understanding without the need for their subs with my extremely limited knowledge of the Japanese language, by just listening to the audio.

[shinta|hikari]

A show like Guren Lagann doesnt really need subs for more experienced anime watchers. Even the "really" technical explanations are reexplained in more simple terms (most anime shows do this),and even have images just in case you get confused. Half of it is just explosions, not that its a bad thing.

[AbstractTheorem]

Well thank you for the random bit of negative rant.... but if your going to complain please leave it with what makes sense....


ADRTW subs are god awful. I tried watching the one they had for 22, and the raw or codec they used were terrible...

Its a SUB FILE we are talking about here.. the raw looks fine...in fact probably one of the best cut raw's anon has released. A Sub File is just TEXT ----> you don't need a codec....depending on the player you might need a filter to see the subs with the video.


their subs sucked, it was filled with grammatical and spelling errors, odd phrasing, lack of any karaoke.

Its RARE for any Speed Subbing group to have a karaoke....but your right about the spelling/grammar; considering that they sub it normally in about an 1-2 hours after the raw is released the grammar errors are not that bad.

I am surprised that over the course of 1-2 hours a nearly random group of people passing around a subtitle file in a forum (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2407916&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=123) (which is how they sub TTGL) can actually create a passable subtitle; if someone were to tell me how they made it I would expect it to look like a 3 year old monkey banged on the keyboard until the screen filled up with characters.


And their subs were pretty juvenile.
Your post is juvenile, and if you're going to complain about grammar, don't begin a sentence with the word "AND". Far be it from be to be a grammarian, but seriously, spitting piss poor random venomous remarks about grammatical USING poor grammar kinda makes it.. lack punch.


I honestly understood the episode with a better understanding without the need for their subs with my extremely limited knowledge of the Japanese language, by just listening to the audio.
Well my friend, if you don't need the sub... then....... DON'T DOWNLOAD IT! It's as simple as that! I even mentioned the quality in my post, but I was trying to be diplomatic about it.


Wanna make a Remark about the quality of ADRTW.. then here is an edit of your random post:

"ADRTW subs are god awful. I tried watching the one they had for episode 22. The sub was filled with grammatical errors, spelling errors, odd phrasing, and the lack of karaoke."

..now if you posted that you would have gotten your point across; also "filled with ... the lack of karaoke" almost sounds poetic. :D

so in closing if your going to rip on some fansub/speed sub/group of random people in a forum's Sub's, then please do it with some dignity, after all even ADTRW's sub's are better then yours.

[animus]

They have encodes if you didn't notice. And they encoded it bad, or whatever. I don't know.

BSS has Karaoke. They didn't have it when the lyrics weren't out, but now that they ARE out I see no reason not to have them.

The words "but" and "and" are considered poor grammar to start a sentence with. However, it's perfectly understandable to have them there, even in literacy pieces. Editors don't change it, even in major works like Harry Potter.

I couldn't care less about my grammar on an internet forum. You're mighty defensive for someone who concedes that their subs are terrible. These are criticisms, live with it. They're putting out files to the public, though free, people still have standards. I don't care if they're speed subbers, I allow a certain degree of mistakes, but in the outline of a subgroup which ADRTW is, there needs to be QC'ers that do their work. In case you don't know what QC stands for, it's Quality Control.

I didn't say I didn't need it, the subs just didn't help the understanding process much if any at all.

I don't call myself a grammar expert, and grammar on an internet forum is hardly the top of my priorities, but I could easily have corrected all of the grammar in your post.

I've never made subs, so clearly your last point is moot. If you're going to flame me, do it with dignity. I don't know why you're riding on their sacs so hard, but you need to grow up. In closing, the internet is serious fucking business.

[AbstractTheorem]

They have encodes if you didn't notice. And they encoded it bad, or whatever. I don't know.

BSS has Karaoke. They didn't have it when the lyrics weren't out, but now that they ARE out I see no reason not to have them.

The words "but" and "and" are considered poor grammar to start a sentence with. However, it's perfectly understandable to have them there, even in literacy pieces. Editors don't change it, even in major works like Harry Potter.

Yes what you say about "and" and "but" is well google'd. Nothing is wrong with breaking the rules of grammar... like I said I am not a grammarian. I use ellipses for pauses, tend to capitalize for emphasizing a word, and I take sentences I make from a complete sentence and a fragment and I join them with a semicolon...there is a difference between breaking a rule or two and vomiting a pile of disorganized misinformation onto a forum page.

I am not going to play the "your defensive game"..... this is a trick statement which has no winning come back. If I say anything then I am "being defensive" just as you claim, if I say nothing then your statement stands, attack me with something that ACTUALLY MEANS something please.

Yes BSS is a better quality Sub.

No, I didn't correct you on grammar.... I was saying you were the pot calling the kettle black.

And lastly.....

I've never made subs, so clearly your last point is moot. If you're going to flame me, do it with dignity. I don't know why you're riding on their sacs so hard, but you need to grow up. In closing, the internet is serious fucking business.

you seemed to miss it....that was the joke....I assumed you hadn't made subs which leads to "Subs are better then nothing"

I think you need to read your last paragraph and heed your own advice.

[animus]

I'm clearly not the one flaming. Hopefully a warn is not coming my way.

It's funny how you said I was attacking you. I didn't. You attacked me, sir.


"ADRTW subs are god awful. I tried watching the one they had for episode 22. The sub was filled with grammatical errors, spelling errors, odd phrasing, and the lack of karaoke."


That was a correction. You should really stop trying to argue with me. I couldn't care less if I win or not, but you are definitely not clever as you seem to think you are. Read my last paragraph and heed my advice? Again, if you want to flame me, do it better. No offense, but you aren't clever, so stop trying to accuse me of stuff I didn't type.

"If you assume, you make an ass out of u and me". Have a good day.

[Y]

I don't care if they're speed subbers, I allow a certain degree of mistakes, but in the outline of a subgroup which ADRTW is,

No they aren't. Stop posting.

[animus]

No they aren't. Stop posting.

Yes, they are. They have groups for other things as well, like manga. They have staff.

[Y]

Yes, they are. They have groups for other things as well, like manga. They have staff.

ADTRW is not Studio ADTRW. Stop posting about this, you're completely wrong.

The level of edits I made on my own copy of BSS subs for episode 15 surpasses anything I have ever had to do to retouch ADTRW's subs. Spellchecking ADTRW's episode 22 results in two errors.

[Yukimura]

Getting back to the topic of Gurren-Lagann....this was a pretty sad episode, though not on the level of episode 8 in terms of emotion..but from the ashes of despar shall rise Mega-Giga-Tera-Peta-Exa-Trans-Hyper-Ultimate Epic Gurren-Lagann Supreme

[Y]

I can kind of see Simon failing in the end. He barely defeated Lord Genome, who got completely bitched out and cowed by the Anti-Spirals back in the day.

[shinta|hikari]

Simon was still a brat then. He is definitely many times more powerful and dependable now.

[animus]

ADTRW is not Studio ADTRW. Stop posting about this, you're completely wrong.

The level of edits I made on my own copy of BSS subs for episode 15 surpasses anything I have ever had to do to retouch ADTRW's subs. Spellchecking ADTRW's episode 22 results in two errors.

Ok, I was wrong about that. But, not being a lurker of there how could I have known. Upon, just 1 minute of inspection I found out that they named their subs of anime with the same tag,
Studio ADTRW's site lists Tengen Toppa as a project, though under dropped.

I only found out I was wrong due to some hard searching into their wiki. Learned that ADTRW is a anime subforum of SA, and that Studio ADTRW is a group of subbers from there. The connection's still confusing, but whatever.

[shinta|hikari]

You were wrong nonetheless, excuses are just that. So can we get back on topic please?

[animus]

I said I was wrong already, those were just explanations for why I was wrong, not an excuse into why I should've been right. You posting that was clearly not on topic either.

Episode 24 - ADTRW (http://www.nyaatorrents.org./?page=torrentinfo&tid=3587)

This was a near perfect job than what I had perceived of 22. Anyways, the odd's look bleak for the Super Galactic Gurren Brigade. Lost a lot of people and what took the Super Galactic Gurren Lagann forever to charge up for was completely dissipated within seconds in some special water it seems.

[shinta|hikari]

Excuses ARE explanations why you were wrong.

Dont get me wrong, I can get your complaints. I just think that when you do make a mistake, explaining it is kind of pointless, especially if no one is asking for the reason.

They were really foolish to think everything will be ok as long as they have fighting spirit. Its nice to see that they actually crumbled in the face of actual strategy, since they themselves uaully have none.

[Yukimura]

Flame War 2 cents: Admitting a mistake and offering the reasoning that led you down the wrong path doesn't nullify the mistake but it gives people the ability to judge you based on more than just your flawed result, it's just like getting partial credit on a test for showing your work.

Anyway

They were really foolish to think everything will be ok as long as they have fighting spirit. Its nice to see that they actually crumbled in the face of actual strategy, since they themselves uaully have none.

Why are you bothering watching this show if you want them to face realistic consequences for their actions? Pretty much every event in this show has been "Screw reality or odds or reason, fighting spirit is all you need to conquer all". Sure it's completely bogus and fantastical premise, but it's a fun fantasy to step into, partly because it's so enveloping and always works within the show. I wouldn't want the show to deviate from that and have them fail miserably in the end, if I wanted to see misery and failure I could just watch the news.