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Munsu
Wed, 11-29-2006, 01:22 AM
Another good episode...
I really think this arc will be a turning point for Rock. Hopefully he'll start killing people soon.
Lucifus
Wed, 11-29-2006, 01:47 AM
Christ, the second season ownz! Bring the violence!:p
Zati
Wed, 11-29-2006, 01:52 AM
Yes second season is awesome. I agree with Bud that Rock needs to get bloody and start killing!
Munsu
Wed, 11-29-2006, 01:56 AM
4 more episodes, I really hope there's a third barrage in the making or something. Mainly because we haven't had enough of the Lagoon Company this season, most of it has centered on the Russians.
Also, I browsed quickly the raws, and it seems to me that Volume 5 ends the current arc, while the raws in Japan are in volume 6 or so.
Honoko
Wed, 11-29-2006, 02:34 PM
I agree. We need more time devoted to Dutch and Benny. Although all this Rock and Revy development is good too :D
Kraco
Wed, 11-29-2006, 03:32 PM
I agree with Bud that Rock needs to get bloody and start killing!
That's an interesting question, certainly. No doubt much of why Revy became interested in Rock in the first place was how Rock wasn't a bloody criminal but an ordinary civilian. Those must have been quite rare for Revy for a long time. However, fortunately this series is so mature in many senses that it's possible they won't force that initial factor to be any necessary continuing, artificially stabile thing. After all, they are living in such a violent world that it would be good for Rock to learn how to defend himself. And who would be a better teacher than Revy...
While I've no real idea or even opinion of whether we are going to see Rock kill people or not, such an event could be used to bring Rock and Revy closer together, for sure. It could help to seal Rock forever into the Lagoon Company, and remove any doubts he might still have of where he belongs.
kAi
Wed, 11-29-2006, 08:03 PM
Yeah, a third Barrage is definately needed, this is an awesome series, but if the raws aren't that far ahead, I hope they stop and wait for more material to be published before starting anything. Which I think would be the case with this.
I love the exchanges with Revy and Rock, it's awesome. I just want them to have sex already. It's good to see Rock get beaten up for Revy so she wouldn't feel the need to draw. It would be cool if 'Romeo' was killed by Rock, that would make my day, and then you'd get to see Rock kill someone finally.
Just seeing these episodes puts back in your head that you don't fuck with Balalaika and Hotel Moscow.
Zati
Mon, 12-04-2006, 02:26 PM
Great just out! :
Episode 21 - Shinsen (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Black_Lagoon_-_21_%5B70FB57B3%5D.avi.torrent)
Sandldan
Mon, 12-04-2006, 03:07 PM
Sweet downloading now, they always manage to catch me "off guard" with the black lagoon releases
Lucifus
Mon, 12-04-2006, 03:07 PM
HellZ Fing YeaH! More ownage. Dling. Will watch when I get back from work.:cool:
Sandldan
Mon, 12-04-2006, 04:27 PM
Very nice episode
Showed some of Balalaikas past, only thing i got annoyed at was her voice as a little girl sounded just like her present self :p
And finally got to see Ginji in action with his katana, not as much action as you've gotten used to but seems like the next episode will make up to that more than enough, cant wait to see how that works out
Kraco
Mon, 12-04-2006, 04:44 PM
Aye, an excellent episode. Rock keeps thinking quite unpractically, but at least that means he hasn't given up hope of still having some control of his own life and whatever short term goals he can come up with. I doubt he has planned his future ahead that much. Why Revy agreed is a more interesting question. Maybe it's because she realized being the senior (criminal) and always keep telling Rock what to do and what not might not actually cultivate any understanding between them. Or maybe it's because she just wanted some action. She hasn't had too much of that in Japan so far.
But I wonder what Rock is going to do in the next ep. I doubt he has even a pocket knife with him, much less a more solid piece.
Munsu
Mon, 12-04-2006, 04:51 PM
I really wonder why Revy told Rock to back them up... I don't remember him having any weapon, so what can he possibly do? I was hoping Revy would hand him one of her guns right after she said that.
Yukimura
Mon, 12-04-2006, 08:24 PM
I guess she just wanted him to feel like he mattered. However from her last line and they way she and Ginji walked into that place I strongly doubt there will be any need for him at all.
The Balilaika flashback was a nice touch, it showed that she wasn't always a ruthless bloodthirsty queen, even her morose right before she went to that funeral made me appreciate her charachter more.
Question though...can someone explain to me what is going on between the Russians and the Washimines? My understanding was that the guy who is now dead was the leader of the Washimine Gang and got in bed with the Russians to take over or at least raise their standing amoung the gangs, but then the Russians did something and somehow the Russians are fighting them. But that doesn't make much sense to me so can someone please clarify.
kAi
Mon, 12-04-2006, 09:52 PM
Another good episode, as other people mentioned it's nice to go into Balalaika's past, and to see how she was before now.
Question though...can someone explain to me what is going on between the Russians and the Washimines? My understanding was that the guy who is now dead was the leader of the Washimine Gang and got in bed with the Russians to take over or at least raise their standing amoung the gangs, but then the Russians did something and somehow the Russians are fighting them. But that doesn't make much sense to me so can someone please clarify.
The Washimines wanted to up their standing with the gangs in Japan and Balalaika wanted to start a base of operations there, but the Washimines thought there way was to extreme, they didn't mind them going on a simple rampage, but the Washimines didn't like the idea of abduction, and I think that's where it all went sour.
Ryllharu
Mon, 12-04-2006, 10:10 PM
Balalaika's motivation from her past was a nice touch, but I agree, her voice as a little girl was definitely wrong. Some people have complained that there's not enough development on the Lagoon members, and a lot more on Balalaika. I think she's as much a part of their life as the Lagoon members are to each other. They seem to work for her the most often, and Dutch seems to have the closest business relationship with her.
I think the point of Revy's speech in the taxi was if Rock goes out and kills someone in Japan and crosses Balalaika while he's working for her, he'll lose any place he has to go back to. Crossing her, he'd end up murdering someone or preventing her from doing so resulting in a bloodbath, and he'd be a criminal in Japan and lose his home. Roanapur will be off limits because Balalaika controls that city, and everyone there knows it. He'd lose the only other home he's ever had. A quick look of sadness on her face before she agreed to go along.
That tied in with her disappointment that he didn't want to go to his parent's house leads me to only one conclusion. Revy has a sore spot, and it's finally revealed. She can't ever go back to her home. Either her parents are gone, she's been banned from the US, or both. More importantly, she probably wishes she could.
Church
Mon, 12-04-2006, 11:22 PM
I really wonder why Revy told Rock to back them up... I don't remember him having any weapon, so what can he possibly do? I was hoping Revy would hand him one of her guns right after she said that.
What Revy said, for me, translated to something like "we'll go in and kill the bad guys and while they're getting distracted you go in and save the girl"
Or maybe Rock will crash the car in...?
Munsu
Sat, 12-09-2006, 08:01 PM
22:
http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Black_Lagoon_-_22_%5BD6AD560D%5D.avi.torrent
Ryllharu
Sat, 12-09-2006, 10:00 PM
A very nice episode. Excellent fights at the beginning, and another person told Rock to his face he's not where he belongs. Yukio told him off really bad. Black Lagoon has really come into it's own during Second Barrage. The plots are a little deeper, they go into moral dilemmas, and carve out a fairly believable view of the criminal underworld. At least the cocky bastard got it in one of the most brutal ways possible, drowned while bleeding out in a pool.
Is it just me, or did Megumi Toyoguchi's (Revy's seiyuu) english get better in this episode? Her pronunciations seemed a lot clearer at certain parts. I gotta admit though, I had to go back and see if she really said "gook." There it was, plain as day at 5:38.
Yukimura
Sun, 12-10-2006, 02:34 AM
Another excellent bloodbath, and the comments Yukio made to Rock were in many ways just as good as the fighting. Revy's VA did sound a lot more clear this ep, several of her lines reminded me of Black Lotus from Command and Conquer: Generals, go figure.
Kraco
Sun, 12-10-2006, 06:23 AM
Some really good fighting indeed. I liked this fight more than many earlier ones, because people actually got hit and killed, and not just hundreds of rounds flying with hardly anybody getting shot. The swordsman was also pretty bad ass, even with the 1/100 chance (if even that) of cutting the bullet.
And like already has been said, Rock certainly had that one coming. I guess it makes sense it was somebody like Yukio, who is, or was, in a somewhat similar situation, yet seems to grasp it far better than Rock. But on the other hand, Yukio had been, potentially, in that situation since her birth, Rock only for a short while and rather suddenly.
It'll be interesting to see how Rock will view and perhaps change his opinions after having thought about things. It seems to me like the rest of the Lagoon company people are quite liking and enjoying what they are doing, so in the long run it wouldn't do any good for the crew if one person feels he doesn't belong there. Even if they don't actually rely on Rock in battle situations or for other really critical tasks.
Lucifus
Sun, 12-10-2006, 08:10 AM
Christ. Pure uncensored ownage.One of the best if not best ep ever. Sword man ownZ. Even with the .000000000000001% possibility of cutting the bullet, the ep owned.
And as always, just quote Kracos thoughts into my post. Loved the ep.:D :cool:
darkmetal505
Sun, 12-10-2006, 11:48 AM
I hope this doesn't turn into a Naruto where Yukio finally "sees the light" because of Rock. The whole "your were forced into this" opposed to "I chose it" was a little vague since she had to think she chose it in order to confirm her resolve, meaning she was kind of forced to do it... Rock seemed quite taken aback, well who wouldn't I suppose. Fighting was good, nothing spectacular of course. After all, all they fought were stupid goons.
Animeniax
Sun, 12-10-2006, 11:15 PM
Awesome episode, great action and that slick bastard got wasted good in the pool by Ginji.
I disliked Yukio's explanation of why she was involved, saying she has to do all she can to protect her people. These people are ruthless gangsters and killers. They definitely need her to lead them back to power :rolleyes: . I was thinking during the entire "strip-bowling" scene that she would realized she didn't have the stomach for this kind of life, but she shows how demented and obstinate she can be, telling off Rock and even convincing herself of the "nobility" of her cause. Let's hope she dies, along with her entire crew and all the Russians too.
Kraco
Mon, 12-11-2006, 03:54 AM
I think you are missing something here. Yukio didn't decide to become the leader of barbarians like the people who kidnapped her, but old school yakuza. They are, at least in stories, quite ritualistic and have a strict code of honor (like Dictionary.com describes it). The Russians and the gang of the bastard drowning in the pool were nothing like the people she's supposed to lead. I deem that's also the reason why they are faring so bad against the Russians. They seemingly aren't used to such open, anarchistic Russian way of fighting (which isn't strange considering the differences between the Russian and Japanese societies).
kAi
Mon, 12-11-2006, 08:42 AM
Oh, and don't forget that the Russians are military, as these Japanese are just street thugs.
Nice episode, great action all round. Love Revy tormenting these goons and them being afraid, it was good to see Ginja in some more action, loved the way he killed the other guy. It was funny seeing him so pissed off from Revy walking away from his, and he was so suprised that she made a run at him and took him down.
I hope Rock will wake up to himself some more and think about what he is now and stick with the Lagoon company.
Ryllharu
Mon, 12-11-2006, 10:00 AM
This arc has a theme almost the same as the last one. There are villains, and then there are villains in a city of villains. The Cowboy and his boss didn't know what they were getting in to, and it's pretty much the same here. Balalaika and Revy are from that kind of place, so they can devastate the enemies here. The Yakuza have a sense of honor, but compared to Balalaika's militaristic and brutal methods, they don't stand a chance. Honor is nothing on the battlefield.
In the case of Revy and the Punk, he thought she'd play fair and he'd be able to kill her, but that's not how a true villain fights. Kicked right in the face and then didn't even bother killing him herself.
woofcat
Mon, 12-18-2006, 11:15 AM
Are there any subbers that arn't shinsen that are past 22?
Ryllharu
Mon, 12-18-2006, 12:06 PM
Unfortunately, Bakakozou & Conclave are the only other ones doing BL, and they aren't even close to where Shinsen is.
masamuneehs
Tue, 12-19-2006, 10:43 PM
just caught up. i'm liking this Yakuza story quite a bit, even though I never thought it would last this many episodes. Balalaika's past is interesting too, though I do hope we get the same for Dutch as well...
I was so upset when that Yoshida guy (Washahime yakuza with the striped suit) got killed by Chaka. I really liked that guy, even though he was just a two-bit minor character. Fucking idiot should have had a gun though, could have taken at least one of them with him...
Rock's "backup" is like Macauley Kulkin's idea of home security in Home Alone... Slippery floor, knock to the noggin, a mop... One day it's going to catch up with him though.
I really did not like Yukio's bitching out of Rock. She acts like she knows all about him, but she doesn't. She is right, he's still trying to retain his moral dignity and meddle in the criminal underworld, but there's a reason for that: Revy. Rock might have started off being "oh, this criminal shit is badass, let me give it a shot", but if he hadn't fallen for Revy he'd have been out of there a long time ago. He's not cut out for it, he's way too upstanding and "in the sunlight" to actually want to take part in these bad things. He's attracted to the danger, the taboo of it all, but most importantly he does it because that's the only way he can be close to Revy.
Animeniax
Thu, 12-21-2006, 09:57 AM
I think you are missing something here. Yukio didn't decide to become the leader of barbarians like the people who kidnapped her, but old school yakuza. They are, at least in stories, quite ritualistic and have a strict code of honor (like Dictionary.com describes it). The Russians and the gang of the bastard drowning in the pool were nothing like the people she's supposed to lead. I deem that's also the reason why they are faring so bad against the Russians. They seemingly aren't used to such open, anarchistic Russian way of fighting (which isn't strange considering the differences between the Russian and Japanese societies).
Code of honor or not, the yakuza are gangsters and thugs, no better than the mafia or street gangs or politicians that prey on the human vice and bring death and destruction all in the quest for personal gain. She doesn't need to sacrifice herself to "bring them back from the depths". They don't deserve salvation. Anyway, "salvation" in their eyes is becoming the top gang in town.
Ryllharu
Thu, 12-21-2006, 10:34 AM
Compared to the Russian Mafia (instead of killing you they kill you and your family) the Yakuza are always portrayed as noble villains in novels, anime, and stories. Watch any series where yazuka are a neutral party or main characters (Gokusen, Futakoi Alt, etc). They generally don't kill, don't kidnap. They extort money through protection rackets and other less violent means.
Black Lagoon is using the image of Yakuza Pride or Honor to portray them as better than Balalaika and the Russian Mafia. It's no different than always showing Americans as drunk, loud and violent characters in any anime series (Revy being a perfect example). That's why the one leader went off to face Balalaika with only a sword. He was basically committing suicide. The Yakuza you're thinking of are the ones like the Cocky Bastard now lying dead in a swimming pool. Yukio is part of as Kraco said, OLD SCHOOL Yakuza. These are the ones from before the WWII era, where they all treat each other with great respect, all brothers united under a single leader. "Cut off your own thumb in shame" yakuza.
The phrase "No honor among theives" doesn't apply to old school yakuza, all they have is their honor and pride.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza
Yukio and her clan are more of the Tekiya and Bakuto type of Yakuza. The more traditional yakuza. You are thinking of Gurentai, the post war gang-thug yakuza.
Animeniax
Fri, 12-22-2006, 09:47 AM
Sorry but I can't accede to your argument. I'm sure the victims of their "less violent" protection rackets really appreciate that they have a code of honor and mutual respect within their criminal organization, and I'm sure these noble crooks really deserve Yukio's sacrifices to protect their honor (and make them the top criminal organization in town again). But to me, criminals are criminals, and its their effect on the innocents that makes them not worth saving. They can be as polite and respectful within their organization all they want, but even their noble protection rackets ruin people's lives and dreams. They are scum beneath scum, because they pretend to be "noble" criminals and have rules within their organization to respect and honor each other. But when it comes down to it, they're as bad as any criminal, and all deserve to die.
Btw, Revy is Chinese (chinese-american, but I'm guessing she's not a halfer, just a chinese born in the states). Revy's outlandish behavior might be a slight against the Chinese.
Yukimura
Sun, 12-24-2006, 06:54 PM
Black Lagoon - 23 (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Black_Lagoon_-_23_%5B81A371C0%5D.avi.torrent)
The Washimine girl seems to have a decent head on her shoulders, but she's still massively out of her league. Rock is still Rock, but his foolish idealism in this ep was just an excuse for Balilaika to show of how awesome she is. I'm hoping that now he'll pull through and stop trying to get between the too freight trains that are about to crash into each other.
Board of Command
Mon, 12-25-2006, 01:00 AM
An excellent episode to build up to the finale.
Uberbaka
Mon, 12-25-2006, 08:15 PM
Great episode, but was it just me or did the characters proportions mess up alot and the perspectives seem odd more often than usual?
Honoko
Mon, 12-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Good ep-- I was wondering what the point of this arc was but if it was to show Rock's resolve to keep living as a dead man, then great.
@Uberbaka: if you mean the way the characters are drawn, I feel like Revy's character is getting drawn more softly to make her more girly. If you look at how she's drawn in the first ep versus during this arc, I feel like there are subtle differences... well, that and the fact that sometimes she's got her hair in braids, or wearing a cute hat and (gasp) a skirt.
Ryllharu
Tue, 12-26-2006, 02:36 PM
I'd really put it more on the animators running out of budget finally. It's typical in series like BL that was planned as a 12 eps series. There wasn't much of a break between the first half and 2nd Barrage, so I imagine their budget has gotten pretty tight. Pretty standard in series that are 24-26 eps and don't have a huge following before they air.
You could also attribute it to running into deadlines leading to rushed work, evident by the stock frames of Yukio in the car. They were poorly drawn and reused 3 times in this episode.
?igma
Tue, 12-26-2006, 06:20 PM
Can anyone name a subgroup for this anime that'snot Shinsen and has decent quality ?
I've downloaded the Shinsen 1-12 pack , but I cant seem to open them at all. And no thats not a codec problem.
Ryllharu
Tue, 12-26-2006, 07:36 PM
Shinsen is the only group that did the series decently if not well. The other groups all have horrible ratings. I've only heard of one of them.
For 2nd Barrage, you could try Bakakozou & Conclave, but they are a very slow joint-group lately.
See for yourself (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3395&showallag=1)
And for 2nd Barrage (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4597&showallag=1)
?igma
Wed, 12-27-2006, 05:16 AM
Shinsen is the only group that did the series decently if not well. The other groups all have horrible ratings. I've only heard of one of them.
For 2nd Barrage, you could try Bakakozou & Conclave, but they are a very slow joint-group lately.
See for yourself (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3395&showallag=1)
And for 2nd Barrage (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4597&showallag=1)
Hmm I now downloaded a single file of their releases ( nr 1 ) and it runs fine ( Shinsen )The problem there is, that they miss from ~4 to 12 ..its all packed -_-
Ryllharu
Wed, 12-27-2006, 07:15 AM
If I understand what you're saying, you can't get the eps you downloaded from a batch torrent to work. You try their IRC channel. I see at least two bots with the all the season 1 episodes. Many bots have the 2nd Barrage eps.
?igma
Wed, 12-27-2006, 12:04 PM
If I understand what you're saying, you can't get the eps you downloaded from a batch torrent to work. You try their IRC channel. I see at least two bots with the all the season 1 episodes. Many bots have the 2nd Barrage eps.
Im IRC naab :) thank god tbh..thank god ..losing my sanity to IRC as well as to WoW would make an official pc addict -_-
But I seem to have fixed the problem, had the torrent files checked and they were both corrupt, so I reDL'd them :) I like the series ^^
Bucket
Fri, 12-29-2006, 08:46 AM
I just started watching this (yeah, I'm that guy who waits for a batch torrent)... the gun labeled "SWORD 9mm" in the OP reminded me of the late 90's remake of Romeo & Juliet. Also, do you think the ED was meant to sound like the Platoon theme?
More comments later...
Zati
Sun, 12-31-2006, 03:32 AM
Awesome just out!
Episode 24 Season 2 FINAL - Shinsen (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Black_Lagoon_-_24_%5BFINAL%5D%5BCC4D0823%5D.avi.torrent)
?igma
Sun, 12-31-2006, 12:06 PM
Awesome just out!
Episode 24 Season 2 FINAL - Shinsen (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Black_Lagoon_-_24_%5BFINAL%5D%5BCC4D0823%5D.avi.torrent)
Well, this ending was to be expected, but I hoped for the ending to be slightly more interesting :E
Anyone know if a third season is planned ?
Death13a
Sun, 12-31-2006, 12:43 PM
Words from V.N.Vasilinov (don't know it her real name but i'm 90% sure it is) "You'll become a good villian" to Rock. So if budget will hold up then there willl be more Black Lagoon.
Kraco
Sun, 12-31-2006, 12:50 PM
Yeah. While there unarguably were some elements in place to make this an ending, I was expecting a bit more stern conclusion. Maybe that is indeed a sign of a third season to be made, or maybe it's simply a continuation of the slice of (pirate) life feeling this series has been giving out, even if there have been clear arcs and arc conclusions. But it's not like this series could ever end in a much different manner than this, unless they sink the boat and kill off the people. After all, there's no world to save from three-eyed aliens nor a demonic villain to defeat.
Still, I had higher hopes of getting some concretic progress for the Revy-Rock pair. I don't think much happened during this whole second season. Maybe Rock got some more balls and realised his own position better, and thus could earn a bit more respect from Revy, but I was expecting some romance, no matter how rough.
Yukimura
Sun, 12-31-2006, 02:37 PM
Wen you take into account that the manga is still ongoing it's they had to where they did. From what I can gather there's only one arc that wasn't animated and it's the one going on right now. Unfortunately I can't find anyone who's scanslated the manga past volume 2 so I have no idea what that arc is about, but there is probably more development and what not in there.
If the manga stays popular enough maybe they will make a third season who knows...
Harima Kenji
Mon, 01-01-2007, 07:07 PM
I only hope that if there are plans for a 3rd season, that they'll wait until the manga is far enough.
This series really keeps me hooked.. not a single boring episode so far.
kAi
Mon, 01-01-2007, 10:30 PM
Another good episode, I thought it finished rather well, and like Kraco said, you couldn't really finished this with anything much different, also this way it leaves things open for a third series, hopefully after the manga has gone far enough and they can do another 12 episodes. As there is plenty of stuff they can go through, especially the big one that I would want to see is with Eda (including the Church of Violence maybe) and the FBI.
I liked the little chat between Eda and Revy at the end, concerning her relationship with Rock.
vladimier
Fri, 02-09-2007, 10:57 AM
WOW..I knew the details of the basic story and had seen the artwork but I had no idea how f^%$ing good it was going to be! I delayed watching it so I could catch up on some of my other anime and so it could gather a few episodes in case I got into the mood to see more than one at a time which is my usual mode. I will never get bored of wholesale violence, as long as the action is good and people are dying im not bored of a series, the story goes a long ways as well but something has to be said for death by the dozen. Besides that the loner/vigilante code always works for me, I have been a fan of pirates since I could read. There are a mix of pirate and mercenary attitudes in the story, both great mindsets for any story. I know most of you have seen this series already but if you havent you gotta watch it!!
later
vladimier
Good Job at using the search feature...
Thread merged, user warned, and I need some coffee- MOD
Munsu
Fri, 03-02-2007, 11:37 PM
Another good episode, I thought it finished rather well, and like Kraco said, you couldn't really finished this with anything much different, also this way it leaves things open for a third series, hopefully after the manga has gone far enough and they can do another 12 episodes. As there is plenty of stuff they can go through, especially the big one that I would want to see is with Eda (including the Church of Violence maybe) and the FBI.
I liked the little chat between Eda and Revy at the end, concerning her relationship with Rock.
Downloaded the raw for volume 5, and it ends exactly where season 2 ends. The manga is currently in volume 6, so I don't think we'll get a continuation any time soon. Though, I hope it gets a continuation eventually.
Edit: It's also apparently a bi-monthly manga, so it'll be a while before we get enough content.
Munsu
Fri, 03-30-2007, 05:59 AM
I just downloaded the KAA version of this series... Browsed the first episode a bit, and I think it's worth it to replace the Shinsen version. It even has karaoke, and of course uses a dvd source.
animus
Fri, 03-30-2007, 07:04 AM
I've been meaning to finish the Second Barrage. But after watching I believe the first 3 or so episodes, about those creepy blood-crazed twin children I got kinda bored and weirded out. It just didn't have the feel of the first series. Does it get any better down the line? Or is it just filled with Rev dual-pistoling 30 men with assault rifles over and over in various episodes?
Munsu
Fri, 03-30-2007, 07:08 AM
You're asking the wrong question in the wrong place... Everyone here thought the whole series was awesome, so for us there's no "it gets better", it was always good.
KrayZ33
Wed, 10-24-2007, 12:01 PM
*graverobber*
Wow... great series, there wasn't a single boring episode. the OP and ED were the best i've seen so far (well i think these deserve credits too)
btw are there some news about a third season by now?
and did the manga end too? ive only seen 6 volumes(via google) and if i m correct, the anime ended after the 5th, didn't it?
i would love to see a "badass" rock 8[
Munsu
Wed, 07-16-2008, 12:08 PM
Third anime series confirmed for production for Black Lagoon:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-07-16/third-black-lagoon-anime-project-confirmed
Announcement made on cover of first Black Lagoon novel adaptation
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The wraparound jacket band on Gen Urobuchi's novel adaptation of Rei Hiroe's Black Lagoon adventure manga has confirmed that a third anime project has been green-lit for production. The story revolves around a typical Japanese businessman who gets caught up in the escapades of modern-day pirate mercenaries off the Asian shores. Geneon Entertainment released part of the Black Lagoon anime in North America, but Funimation has since agreed to take over distribution of the anime. Funimation has confirmed that it will reissue the first anime series and start the DVD release of the Black Lagoon: The Second Barrage series on August 19.
darkshadow
Wed, 07-16-2008, 12:49 PM
nice stuff, i was hoping for this after second barrage.
Kraco
Wed, 07-16-2008, 12:51 PM
Third season? This is joyous news indeed!
Maybe we will finally see something concrete between Rock and Revy
Sapphire
Wed, 07-16-2008, 01:28 PM
Oh snaps!!!! That's freakin awesome. Okay. I so need to finish this series now.
Inazuma
Wed, 07-16-2008, 02:24 PM
It's like having a Second season of Cowboy Bebop, it's 10/10 on my awesomeness scale.
Shinji Ikari
Wed, 07-16-2008, 03:35 PM
Still, what's this third season gonna be? Is it gonna re-enter the manga story (that at least to my knowledge hasn't gotten that far at all since the animes spinoff with fillereps around ep 15 or so)? Or is it just gonna be a bullshit story going totally off from the manga trail and into something new?
Yukimura
Wed, 07-16-2008, 03:42 PM
This is awesome but slightly annoying at the same time. Third Season is awesome, soon to be available second season DVDRips also awesome. However now I'll have to wait for third season DVDRips as well :( Maybe by the time they come around Blu-Ray burning will be affordable and I can burn the whole thing on one disk.
Ryllharu
Wed, 07-16-2008, 03:54 PM
Each season of Black Lagoon was only 12 episodes, so there's actually a fair amount of the season filled up by whatever current arc the scans are on. It's considerably longer than most of the arcs that have preceded it. I don't know how far it goes but it is at least twice as long as the Calamity Jane arc (the Indian girl persued by half of Roanapur, protected only by Black Lagoon and the swindling Eda) that appeared in Second Barrage.
That's at least six episodes right there, half of the season. Plenty of canon material.
Though I would not mind one of the omakes out of the manga volumes to appear in an episode (maybe a dream sequence after a night of really hard drinking). The one where they regress the ages of the characters (Rock & Eda as high school age, Balalaika in elementary, Revy as junior high age, etc.) was pretty funny.
...and Shinji, to my knowledge, there haven't been any filler episodes outside of the one visit to the Church of Violence and the market that left Revy and Rock in a police car together, sharing a light. The arcs have just been presented out of order.
Kraco
Wed, 07-16-2008, 04:18 PM
Those were fillers? I thought they were good eps...
kAi
Wed, 07-16-2008, 04:36 PM
This is awesome news, can't wait for this to start back up. Might have to re-watch the series.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 07-16-2008, 04:46 PM
@Kraco - Those were some of my favorite episodes. If they keep the quality of this "filler" material up, then I would not mind at all.
Koyuki
Thu, 07-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Third season, awesome news! Black Lagoon is really great, the story, setting, characters, I just love it all.
I might have to download the manga.
The Heretic Azazel
Thu, 07-17-2008, 08:24 PM
Great news. I think this is the best shoot 'em up anime ever made. Also the first two seasons didn't have enough Eda,
Board of Command
Thu, 07-17-2008, 08:27 PM
Hopefully this starts in the fall. ef and Black Lagoon in one season would be pure awesome.
Lucifus
Thu, 07-17-2008, 10:52 PM
This is sick! Damn I missed Revi. :cool: Gotta rewatch the first and second barrage.
Uberbaka
Thu, 07-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Hell yes, I love the fact that they're taking their time to get it right instead of ruining it *cough* NarutoBleachClaymore.etc*cough*
Ryllharu
Thu, 07-16-2009, 04:50 PM
Update:
Black Lagoon's 3rd Anime to be an OVA project, instead of a full television series.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-07-16/black-lagoon-3rd-anime-to-be-video-project-in-2010
The August issue of Shogakukan's Monthly Sunday GX magazine will confirm on Saturday that the third Black Lagoon anime project will be an original video anime (OVA) project in 2010. Director Sunao Katabuchi will return from the first two Black Lagoon anime projects, along with character designer Masanori Shino and the Madhouse anime studio. Megumi Toyoguchi will reprise her role as the female pirate Revy. The story revolves around a typical Japanese businessman who gets caught up in the escapades of modern-day pirate mercenaries off the Asian shores.
Viz Media will publish the seventh volume of Rei Hiroe's original adventure manga next month. Geneon Entertainment released part of the Black Lagoon anime in North America, but Funimation has since agreed to take over distribution of the anime. Funimation reissued the first anime series and started the DVD release of the Black Lagoon: The Second Barrage series last August.
I find this a little strange, as the Dance of Death arc in the manga (which isn't even over to my knowledge) could fill 12 episodes with what they've released so far. Maybe we will be lucky and they will be uncensored 40 minute OVAs like Mnemosyne.
Penner
Sun, 11-22-2009, 09:12 AM
So, i have not yet seen this anime, but i plan to sometime in future, so i'm just wondering.. is there any sub-group that is releasing or has released this in 720p versions?
If not, whats the best quality available? (or perhaps someone has an ETA on any eventual HD releases? :P)
Ryllharu
Sun, 11-22-2009, 09:55 AM
There are supposed to be Blu-ray versions of seasons 1 and 2 coming out, but they first set doesn't come out until late (http://www.amazon.co.jp/BLACK-LAGOON-001-片渕須直/dp/B002TPFM0M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1258901419&sr=8-1) December (http://www.amazon.co.jp/BLACK-LAGOON-002-片渕須直/dp/B002TPFM0W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1258901419&sr=8-3).
There might be some mediocre upscales around, but DVD is the best source currently.
It's kind of a gray area since you're specifically asking about quality, but doesn't this kind of request belong in the Downloads section?
Penner
Sun, 06-13-2010, 07:53 AM
So i'm downloading season 1&2 1080p by "OZC Anime" (http://www.ozc-anime.com/2010/06/black-lagoon-complete-seasons-12-batch.html) at the moment, and i just thought i'd ask if anyone here has had any experience with that sub-group, are they good/bad?
1080p video quality is going to be awesome though :D
darkmetal505
Sat, 07-03-2010, 01:14 AM
[Anbu-umai]Black Lagoon - Roberta's Blood Trail 01.mkv (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=141130)
Lucifus
Sat, 07-03-2010, 03:31 AM
Goddamn! Love and miss both Revy and Roberta! =D
Kraco
Sat, 07-03-2010, 04:37 AM
Haha. Yellow Flag is a real Hard Luck Cafe. I wonder if the owner dude still intends to rebuild it. Probably, no matter how much he always complains.
This looks like a fine season.
Penner
Sat, 07-03-2010, 06:08 AM
Why the "TV Edit".. is it censored in some way?
If so, is the non-edited version getting released by anyone? :P
Inazuma
Sat, 07-03-2010, 07:21 AM
It is awesome as always.
Archangel
Sat, 07-03-2010, 02:22 PM
As news of licensing came only as we were about to distribute the finished product, we felt we’d at least do the people who worked on this episode justice by releasing this episode. However, as both ANBU and Umai Fansubbing would like to honor the licenses (albeit to a compromised degree), we will cease distribution of this episode as of July 6th 1300 PST.
Fastest drop ever
The episode was great but short, with only 4 left will they really manage to faithfully portray this arc?
Kraco
Sat, 07-03-2010, 02:50 PM
The episode was great but short, with only 4 left will they really manage to faithfully portray this arc?
The Finnish releases of the manga aren't this far yet but it would need to be a grand arc indeed if five episodes weren't enough.
Too bad about ANBU dropping this. I hope something decent appears to take their place.
Archangel
Sat, 07-03-2010, 02:55 PM
The Finnish releases of the manga aren't this far yet but it would need to be a grand arc indeed if five episodes weren't enough.
It's 33 chapters long >_>
Death13a
Sat, 07-03-2010, 05:17 PM
25 of those chapters are about bullets flying.
The Heretic Azazel
Sun, 07-04-2010, 09:32 PM
I love how Revy can engage in banter with Rock without pulling a gun on him. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Kraco
Sun, 10-17-2010, 02:43 PM
All warm and fuzzy:
Episode 2 SD (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=166069) | 720p (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=166070) | 1080p (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=166071) - TastyMelon
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A highly Rock centered episode. I might have wondered if that's a good idea in light of the past seasons but certainly the dude surprised me positively. No matter how gloomy he was throughout the episode. Serious brainwork in Black Lagoon is not entirely novel but it's a bit different, especially underlined so thickly that there wasn't a single bullet shot in a whole fricking ep of Black Lagoon! All in all, this episode did as much to explain the situation in the city and world as half a season before.
I also liked the scene between Rock and Revy in Revy's apartment. While Revy wasn't drawn in an overly cute manner in the scene, it was still nice fanservice, har har. Apparently Revy also loves that manner of talk from men. Rock's a smooth talker. Despite his gloomy face.
masamuneehs
Thu, 10-21-2010, 05:52 AM
wait there's more black lagoon to be had?
sleep with justice
i just wanna feel you
DOWNLOADING LIKE A MAN WITH TWELVE HANDS
Belial
Thu, 01-20-2011, 12:48 PM
The 3rd OVA is finally out and subed 720p (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=187488) ... finally some great action in this episode, but now the wait for the new one jsut when things got good :(
Archangel
Thu, 01-20-2011, 01:20 PM
That was some hot tongue action, too bad the guy wasn't more careful or he could have had some before he died
Inazuma
Thu, 01-20-2011, 03:11 PM
There is no limit to how awesome Black Lagoon can get ....
shinta|hikari
Thu, 01-20-2011, 07:16 PM
Save that comment for next episode.
Kraco
Fri, 01-21-2011, 03:30 AM
I only bought the manga volume this was based on a couple of weeks ago. So, the manga still fresh in mind, this somehow seemed even better. Great stuff indeed. It feels like Roberta is a lost cause based on these events. Although after a year of rehab she might get better, who knows. Assuming she survives...
shinta|hikari
Fri, 01-21-2011, 04:07 AM
They censored too much of the erotic kiss scene. That should have been shown in full, not just sounds. Roberta was 10x sexier in the manga in that scene.
NeoCybercoin
Fri, 01-21-2011, 07:59 AM
Okay Shinta you just made me want to read that bit of the manga.
KrayZ33
Fri, 01-21-2011, 08:01 AM
has Blacklaggon always been *this* bloody? I remember a few scenes especially during the end of the series but a smashed head like this? ewwww.
I enjoyed the series more than these OVA's though.. and I was really dissappointed by the FARC and the way they slaughtered everyone without much resistance.. the US army soldiers were cool though (that door scene, wohooo)
Inazuma
Fri, 01-21-2011, 09:28 AM
The SOC team really feels american while the FARC just feels sloppy, but I guess they're here just to delay the arrival of one Balalaika and her army.
It is getting Hellsing gore, the series haven't been this bloody, but I can't really dislike it. It goes well with the psycho delusional blood thirsty overtrained Roberta
Kraco
Wed, 03-23-2011, 02:12 AM
The next episode that comment should have been saved for (according to Shinta):
Episode 4 SD (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=201372) | 720p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=201370) | 1080p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=201371) - TastyMelon
shinta|hikari
Wed, 03-23-2011, 04:13 PM
Apparently not, since this one was pretty stretched. Either that, or reading through their long dialogues is just that much faster than listening to it. We didn't get to the good part.
KrayZ33
Wed, 03-23-2011, 04:37 PM
This one was far more enjoying to watch than the first 3 OVAs
and the action-scenes (the little there were) were even better than in the actual series.. no cannonfodder this time.
one of the few times were the watcher is actually able to believe that these soldiers are capable to fend off all these superhuman-hitmen in that town
Kraco
Wed, 03-23-2011, 05:36 PM
Rock is developing in interesting ways. I think that was one of the most important things about this episode - and this whole arc, obviously, but it became far more clear in this episode. You could say tables are turning funnily when Dutch is giving up in front of Rock's machiavellian plans...
shinta|hikari
Wed, 03-23-2011, 08:14 PM
I'm actually surprised that Revy is actually looking for a sanctuary in Rock. She wasn't able to deny the accusation, so at least to a certain extent it must be true. What would happen if her sanctuary turned into a wasteland like their town? Will she lose interest in him? Or is the bullet already loaded into the gun?
Kraco
Thu, 03-24-2011, 04:47 AM
It would be infinitely unfair to expect Rock to remain all clean and innocent while living in such a city for an extended period of time. However, maybe Rock's general goodwill be sufficient for Revy, even if his methods may be getting darker. At least I think Rock is still seeking outcomes that "will make the world a better place". In fact I think it should be sufficient. People like Revy hardly consider even brutal methods out of the ordinary, but using them not to make money or seek power but to save someone "irrelevant" or make the city safer should be an ample distinction.
DarthEnderX
Thu, 03-24-2011, 01:34 PM
I was surprised Revy let herself get disabled by basically a faceless henchman. I know those guys are supposed to be elite troops and all, but still, Revy is one of the resident crazykillgods.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 03-24-2011, 03:54 PM
It makes perfect sense since it was a sniper. An elite sniper with superior positioning that can be detected easily is more surprising.
DarthEnderX
Sun, 03-27-2011, 03:40 AM
It makes perfect sense since it was a sniper. An elite sniper with superior positioning that can be detected easily is more surprising.Yeah...I kind of stopped thinking in those terms when they had a guy cutting bullets in half in mid air.
shinta|hikari
Sun, 03-27-2011, 07:36 AM
You just have to think about it in relative terms. Maybe that sniper can shoot flies from 1 kilometer away. He is elite after all. :P
Lucifus
Sat, 07-16-2011, 03:53 AM
Roberta's Blood Trail Ep 5 1080 (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=228425)
Archangel
Sun, 07-17-2011, 08:35 AM
So what was the significance of that last part? Who was Roberta meeting with? Family? Also lolcripple
Marik
Thu, 08-04-2011, 10:03 AM
[TastyMelon] Black Lagoon OVA - Roberta's Blood Trail - 05 - BD: 1080p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=234010) | 720p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=234009) | 480p (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=234008)
Archangel
Thu, 08-04-2011, 11:19 AM
I'd appreciate if you gave us a heads up when Tasty Melon's batch release is out Marik
Kraco
Thu, 08-04-2011, 01:54 PM
So what was the significance of that last part? Who was Roberta meeting with? Family? Also lolcripple
It looked to me like they were meeting the major's family. Though I'm not sure what the relevance or benefit of that would be. How exactly would that help Roberta heal?
Quite a decent arc all in all. Rock got a little over his head with his plans, but it was refreshing to see him do, or try to do, something grander. He can't really develop without trying anything. Revy also received a bit of development on the side, even if she didn't receive it too well. She had remained quite unchanging from the beginning, aside from the jolt of Rock joining the company, so it was long overdue. Not that I'd expect her to really change significantly because of this.
KrayZ33
Fri, 08-12-2011, 06:41 PM
Tastymelon's subs are out since last week
watched it today and I have to admit that I barely understood what was happening there, so much time has passed
since I watched ep4.
Its been so long that I can't remember the important stuff in the slightest
So Rock wants the US to invade Roanapur and kill "el Presidente"
Chang and the others of course don't want that to happen
so what I don't get (maybe because I can't remember it)
1. isn't Balalaika yearning for a war with the US?
2. why did they let Roberta escape and did not finish her off when they had the chance?
Rock says they want to hide Roanapur from the "public eye" (wtf?) and thats why they let Yankees go directly to the drug-production facilities? HUUUH? I don't get Roberta's role in all this...
3. Since the US army is already there so arn't they doing their anti-drug campaign"-thing already, doesn't that mean they know about whats happening in this town?
really, I don't get what happened there...
makes no sense to me. is someone able to sum up what happened?
edit: ok the ending of ep2 answered some stuff
1. SOCOM tries to get to the opium fields and get that General Sun Yan "whatever" guy to court, but when they were about to move out -> Robertas Mercenaries and herself attacked them
2. Chang can't do shit without the drugs and wants the US military to go away
3. However, If Roberta kills SOCOM, the US will be mad...so he can't kill them in Roanapur
4. Balalaika covers their retreat
so far so good, but now I don't get the conclusion :D
so basically they let SOCOM go to the opium fields...and does that mean they want Roberta to kill them there? Would that have changed anything? I don't think so.
5. Rock wants SOCOM to be successfull which is why he came up with his plan to kill Roberta, or to turn her back to normal, so far so good.
6. SOCOM was able to capture that Opium-General
7. months later: Nothing changed because Eda's CIA group was able to cover everything up(?)
8. Rock sinks into depression again, because he can't do shit to help anyone.
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point 7. did Chang pay her/them to do all that? So she or rather the CIA is the "Leviathan" Rock was looking for in ep4?
Kraco
Sat, 08-13-2011, 01:22 AM
I believe Rock's only aims were to reduce the amount of drugs in Roanapur and to make Roberta go home with the brat. However, thinking eliminating one big boss would stop the drugs from flowing was quite overoptimistic. He did manage to save Roberta, though, with his gamble. It seemed to me a part of the game was some internal power struggle within the American agencies, though (CIA, NSA?).
Archangel
Sat, 08-13-2011, 03:07 AM
It seemed to me that Rocks purpose was simply to play his hobby, saving women out of the blue. He succeded this time though so i guess practice makes perfect
Marik
Sun, 01-01-2012, 02:01 PM
Happy New Year!
All episodes have been v2ed because I modified the styling and stuff.
Changes made: removed kfx and credits, changed to American English,
added margins, and made previews consistent with following episodes,
among other things.
[TastyMelon] Black Lagoon OVA - Roberta's Blood Trail - BD 1080p: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=272853)
[TastyMelon] Black Lagoon OVA - Roberta's Blood Trail - BD 720p: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=272852)
[TastyMelon] Black Lagoon OVA - Roberta's Blood Trail - BD 480p: Torrent (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=272851)
Patches (http://www.mediafire.com/?6c3vjzers3c8544)
DarthEnderX
Tue, 07-22-2014, 04:20 AM
So, I just now got around to watching the last OVA, on account of constantly forgetting about it due to the release schedule.
Was weird having a big climactic battle with Revy sidelined.
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