Naruto 339

[RyougaZell]

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A very good chapter. I'll post other opinions after several posts.

[nests]

Thanks RyougaZell

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[jing]

Thanks guys. It was an o-kay chapter... Didn't Naruto took out his trump card abit too quick? After all this time he still cant do a single hand rasengan...I think Yamato exagerated alot when he said hes like a new person lol...Naruto most of the time has trouble hitting people with his normal rasengan already because his taijutsu isnt good. If they suddenly give him the golden flash technique and land one in kazuku's face.. I'm going to crap my pants.

[Knives122]

Pretty good chapter, I have a pretty good idea on the noise the Rasengan-Shuriken makes and it's probably going to hurt my when ever that comes around.

But at least we now know what caused Kakashi to bandage up his hand way back when(dir!!).

I didn't want to say it but I'll do it anyway....destructo disk..

[jing]

that makes sense now! Naruto's father is Krillin from dragonball! big mystery solved.

[Munsu]

For some reason I think that he'll actually throw his Resengan.

[Necromas]

Destructo Disc!

[edit] Danm, Jing beat me to it.

[toonice714]

I really hope this is the end of Hidan. If he resurrects when sakura and sai get there i'll be pissed. I was hoping that the new wind rasengan would retain a circular shape but the spinning inside it would just be blades. oh well i guess this is just as good.

[nests]

THere is also the other three clones so maybe his got a plan to get him distracted and than either trow it or hit him directly with it.
Shikamaru wasted a perfectly good head when he buried Hidan. I know the point of this misssion wasnt to capture one akatsuki for information but I think it was back when they faced them with Asuma. He should of just staved him with a kunai rigth on the forhead and pull out the head, then give it to Tsunade so she can interogate him.

One question for the rest of you. Who do you think is the weakess Akatsuki so far is it Hidan or maybe Tobi?

[Assertn]

THere is also the other three clones so maybe his got a plan to get him distracted and than either trow it or hit him directly with it.
Shikamaru wasted a perfectly good head when he buried Hidan. I know the point of this misssion wasnt to capture one akatsuki for information but I think it was back when they faced them with Asuma. He should of just staved him with a kunai rigth on the forhead and pull out the head, then give it to Tsunade so she can interogate him.

One question for the rest of you. Who do you think is the weakess Akatsuki so far is it Hidan or maybe Tobi?

Well, shika at this point wouldnt care to spare a hostage....and I doubt Hidan would've talked anyway. What are they gonna do, torture him? The guy's fighting style revolves around torturing himself!

Also, Hidan is by no means near the weakest akatsuki. He took down Asuma, which is more than what Sasori could say. I'd almost say Hidan is among the deadliest, just because a single scratch and your fate is sealed.

(now if you're asking about the DUMBEST akatsuki member, then its a toss-up between Hidan and Tobi)

[jing]

THere is also the other three clones so maybe his got a plan to get him distracted and than either trow it or hit him directly with it.
Shikamaru wasted a perfectly good head when he buried Hidan. I know the point of this misssion wasnt to capture one akatsuki for information but I think it was back when they faced them with Asuma. He should of just staved him with a kunai rigth on the forhead and pull out the head, then give it to Tsunade so she can interogate him.

One question for the rest of you. Who do you think is the weakess Akatsuki so far is it Hidan or maybe Tobi?

I think exploding clay guy is pretty weak.

[Kensee]

So Naruto acutally used his clones to learn about his enemy's fighting style? O.o little Naruto is using skill!

About the new attack, I'm so glad it doesn't look like an oversized rasengen, and it acutally surprised me. I would of never thought blades (ala destructo disk), and it's quite big. In the flashback Kakashi has, you see a small, miniature version of Naruto's current attack, which means if he's only at 50% right now, his 100% will be some friken huge disk.

edit: I remembered how much people didn't like my "art" last time, so I removed the picture. =(

[RyougaZell]

I actually see Hidan returning later on... after all he is buried alive.
My guess is Zetsu will get him out... after all... he can travel underground.

Naruto's Shuriken Rasengan is nothing like kuririns tech... whatever.

[DDBen]

my guess is that the clones can play catch with the "destructo disk". Thus the reason for the three clones is so they can get him off balance and hit him with it.

Also I'm starting to think that while Hidan is clearly beaten that another Akatsuki likely the leader will show up to retrieve the head. Considering all of them were just together sealing the 2 and 3 tails it would stand to reason that he could be in the area. Plus from what we have seen of him passing through the ground wouldn't be an issue.

[Necromas]

Naruto's Shuriken Rasengan is nothing like kuririns tech...

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3412/destructorasenganxd4.jpg

It's even the same pose.

"Destructo Rasengan!"

[kimbap629]

lol...yea

a. pose is same
b. hand position is same
c. even holding up the technique with the same arm
d. body is weighted down in the same direction as well

kishimoto is taking the db/dbz/dbgt route

anime
dragon ball = naruto
dragon ball z = naruto shippuden

manga
db = naruto
*includes z as well as naruto shippuden

[marusu]

hehehe, after seeing how kakashi looks at naruto being similar to the fourth, and just after watching deja vu, i hope kishimoto doesn't do a time travel story arc where an older naruto goes back into the past and actually becomes the fourth hokage... :P hehehe...

[RasenDori]

narutos use of kagebunshin was really cool. i guess hes matured a bit

[JaySee]

my guess is that the clones can play catch with the "destructo disk". Thus the reason for the three clones is so they can get him off balance and hit him with it.

Also I'm starting to think that while Hidan is clearly beaten that another Akatsuki likely the leader will show up to retrieve the head. Considering all of them were just together sealing the 2 and 3 tails it would stand to reason that he could be in the area. Plus from what we have seen of him passing through the ground wouldn't be an issue.

Didn't they do the ceremony through some remote transmission technique?

[LobsterMagnet]

They did do the technique through there remote transmission holographic display thingy but I think it's still reasonably for Zetsu, the Akatsuki's official scout and cleaner to pop up and pick up all of the pieces of Hidan.

[eternal_spring247]

What I still don't understand is why Shika did not finisch Hidan completely. He's so smart and yet he let Hidan still be alive. If I would be Shika I would also made his head explode :D or burn his whole body till ashes. That would be the perfect kill.

[Assertn]

They did do the technique through there remote transmission holographic display thingy but I think it's still reasonably for Zetsu, the Akatsuki's official scout and cleaner to pop up and pick up all of the pieces of Hidan.

At the very least I'd expect him to go get Hidan's ring

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

At the very least I'd expect him to go get Hidan's ring

Maybe he did! You never know!

And it does have similar attributes to the Destructo Disc but come on now, it is so much more explained and involved then any of the DBZ moves. So all in all I dont mind if the moves look the same as long as they have some sort of smart explanation. Also nice catch on the bandage on Kakashi's hand. -dg-

[Death BOO Z]

So all in all I dont mind if the moves look the same as long as they have some sort of smart explanation

I wonder if you could still say that once they go Kamehameha all the way...
they'll say when you combine too many opposing chackra types, it starts to become unstable, and if you keep pushing it, it becomes a blast of destructive power...

see, it took me about two mintues to come up with an explannation, so are you willing to see it in the next chapter?

[TheNineTails]

Doesn't really matter if they show stuff from other anime... Come on people y are u even watching anime if you know that all anime are copies of each other... wow this is stupid why argue about some thing that was in dbz or any other show... enjoy it or just stop watching the show...

[Death BOO Z]

I'm invoking the 'we at gotwoot' rule from last week thread!

we at gotwoot here, have things we like to do, and things we really like to do.
reading our favorite mangas is the first, bitching about them is the 2nd.
you could give us plot twist one after the other, and we'll still find something to complain about, that's just who we are, and that's exactly what we like to do...


ah. the hell, don't pay much of attention, it's simply that one of the best weeks i've had in the past year is about to end. so I'm crancky.

[FullMetalAlchemist]

Doesn't really matter if they show stuff from other anime... Come on people y are u even watching anime if you know that all anime are copies of each other... wow this is stupid why argue about some thing that was in dbz or any other show... enjoy it or just stop watching the show...


Exactly, it is kinda hard to come up with new material when there are aso many diffrent anime. Can any of you really come up with something that hasn't been done before? Wind shuriken makes sense to me since wind is good long/mid-range, and it has great cutting power. Also how else did you want him to hold it? What i think is people have to find any excuse to complain sometimes.

Just put it this way, if it would have been a hurricane or tornado some people would have complianed that it wasn't anything special. If it was wind armor some would have said it is to much like sasuke. What naruto has learned hasn't been seen in the show and makes total sense. I like it myself, but i don't know about the rest of you.

[animus]

I wouldn't complain cept, Krillin and the Destructo Disc are pretty lame through and through.

[Munsu]

Rather than viewing Kishimoto as a copy and unoriginal, I rather view this as a homage to his idol.

[Edort4]

What I don't really understand is why do you need a rasengan inside a wind shuriken. I mean if it hits it will cut anything (is just a way of speaking, I'm sure that some element or chakra wont be cut). The shuriken should go through and the rasengan wouldn't have anything to impact against, wich is the way it works. Push it against something to blew it away or if it stays just pierce through.

Edit: this hypothesis is based on the rasengan being thrown, I presume that if its called shuriken is for some reason. If the futon rasengan is going to be used the same way of the plain rasengan forget everything I wrote.

[Assertn]

What I don't really understand is why do you need a rasengan inside a wind shuriken. I mean if it hits it will cut anything (is just a way of speaking, I'm sure that some element or chakra wont be cut). The shuriken should go through and the rasengan wouldn't have anything to impact against, wich is the way it works. Push it against something to blew it away or if it stays just pierce through.

Edit: this hypothesis is based on the rasengan being thrown, I presume that if its called shuriken is for some reason. If the futon rasengan is going to be used the same way of the plain rasengan forget everything I wrote.

The rasengan is the incomplete form of the shuriken rasengan. The point is the have a concentrated ball of whirling chakra, and its this core which allows the large shuriken blades to grow out of.

Think of it this way....most wind-chakra attacks we've seen involved the chakra expanding out of the form of something else...ie. Asuma's knuckle blades and Baki's hand. Here the blades use the rasengan to develop their form.

[RasenDori]

oh my god! kishi ripped the rasengan of of andy bogards geki hisshouken! <end sarcasim>

[Edort4]

The rasengan is the incomplete form of the shuriken rasengan. The point is the have a concentrated ball of whirling chakra, and its this core which allows the large shuriken blades to grow out of.

Think of it this way....most wind-chakra attacks we've seen involved the chakra expanding out of the form of something else...ie. Asuma's knuckle blades and Baki's hand. Here the blades use the rasengan to develop their form.

Sounds possible but wouldnt some shurikens made from the same material of asuma's knuckles serve the same purpose? Maybe is a very rare material but I still fail to see all the trouble of making a rasengan and injecting wind just to make a wind shuriken. I'm just judging from one picture, but the shuriken seems pretty normal, isnt wildly spining or doing anything strange.

Maybe when we see it in action it will make much more sense for me, im just an incredulous person. :rolleyes:

[EpyonNext]

I'm curious about one thing here. Is Naruto still using his shadow clones to mold the rasengan or did he do it on his own this time?

Its a little confusing in the pics. I cant tell if the point they show where he is froming the rasengan is Kakashi thinking back or the present battle.

[Assassin]

he used the clones.

as for the new attack, i think he'll use it like a conventional weapon. use it to attack the opponent like asuma used his knuckle blades, and if the opponent tries to counter it, they get hit with a rasengan. so the only option left is to completely dodge it. Im going to assume that the blades serve to keep the enemy from nullyfying it like kakashi did in the flashback.

You either try to parry it and get a hole in your stomach, or you try to cancel it out and have your arm cut off. So all you can really do is run from it.

[Yukimura]

I think the wind blades are indicative of the Rasengan's new cutting strength. Before it was just a spinning force, so if it hit you it scrambled you up inside via concussion. Now it's probably more like spinning knives so if it hits you not only will you get scrambled from the concussion pushing parts of you out of the way, you'll also get cut everywhere that the force was applied. I think it's just that much more destructive then before, which fits Naruto's style but can still be seen as an improvement.

[Assertn]

Sounds possible but wouldnt some shurikens made from the same material of asuma's knuckles serve the same purpose? Maybe is a very rare material but I still fail to see all the trouble of making a rasengan and injecting wind just to make a wind shuriken. I'm just judging from one picture, but the shuriken seems pretty normal, isnt wildly spining or doing anything strange.

Maybe when we see it in action it will make much more sense for me, im just an incredulous person. :rolleyes:

Just the same, you could say "why not use one of those giant shurikens like Mizuki had in the first episode?" The simplest of attacks is enough to kill an enemy, but if an enemy can cancel it, then you need to try something stronger. Under normal circumstances, water beats fire, yet Kakuzu's wind-fed fire simply overpowered Kakashi's water wall. Sure I can't see why shurikens made of the same material as asuma's blades can't be used to create wind shurikens, but I bet they wouldnt be as strong as a wind shuriken being continuously fed super-concentrated, super-accelerated chakra from something like a rasengan.

...where am I getting all this from anyway? :P


@EpyonNext: It takes 3 to make the wind shuriken rasengan. 2 to make the rasengan and a 3rd to infuse it with wind chakra.

[big_ac]

For some reason I think that he'll actually throw his Resengan.

Almost all fuuton jutsu that have been revealed so far are designed to attack from a distance, so you are probably right, but...this is just a theory, maybe this is the power of the completed form of the jutsu. Since it requires multiple kagebunshin just to execute the fuuton rasengan shuriken justu in its present state, it is safe to assume that it also requires a tremendous amount of chakra and concentration, and this is all with the rasengan shuriken still held in the palm of his hand. I think that even more focused chakra would be required to make the jutsu stable enough to hold together after it leaves his hand.

In short: The current jutsu is unstable when compared to the finished product, so Naruto has to remain in contact with it to keep it together, restricting him to swinging it around like a conventional melee weapon...well, as conventional as blades made of chakra and wind get, anyway. Once complete, the jutsu should be stable enough to be thrown.

Disclaimer: This is only a theory and based on absolutely nothing more than a hunch.

Edit: @AssertnFailure - True, I was wrong about the range, but it was an error in terminology. What I meant was that fuuton justu are generally used to attack from some degree of distance rather than in direct hand-to-hand.

[Assertn]

Almost all fuuton jutsu that have been revealed so far are designed to attack from a distance
Not true....
Kakashi specifically said wind is a short-medium range jutsu, which further complements Naruto's fighting style.

[lookitsdanman]

does anyone know where to d/l a hq scanlation of this chapter?

[chet_chetty]

i'd imagine the shuriken form was what naruto intended from learning chakra shape manipulation. he's taking advantage of wind chakra's insane piercing ability as asuma showed him. after the blades get through whatever kakuzu uses to block the attack, the wind chakra infused rasengan is free to meet its target.

[February]

I think that this new move of his wont work out.

Why? Kazaku still has two hearts left. Lets say that Naruto lands this new skil on him and takes out 1 of Kazaku's hearts. Naruto didnt look like he wasted lots of chakra/tired from making that new move, so he should be able to make another one. If one works to take out one of Kazaku's hearts, another wind rasengan should be used to take out another right? Wrong, Kishi doesnt make his manga material that boring. My prediction is that, Naruto's new move, because it is still imcomplete, will not take out Kazaku's hearts. Naruto and the gang work desperately together to take out 1 of Kazaku's hearts, and for the last heart, Naruto "finalizes" the move in battle and take out the last one, thus having a grand ending and awesome achievement-type-of-feeling that Kishi might write

[Assertn]

I expect kakuzu to lose one more heart and then run away...

[kAi]

Yeah, that might be what happens, so Itachi can say "I told you so."

[Knives122]

I don't know, it would sort of have to be like Deidara was with the whole "end of the line kind of thing". So running away when he has two hearts really wouldn't do it for me.

It needs to be one heart left or he dies, plus you can't really run away with all those people there...

[Assertn]

I don't know, it would sort of have to be like Deidara was with the whole "end of the line kind of thing". So running away when he has two hearts really wouldn't do it for me.

It needs to be one heart left or he dies, plus you can't really run away with all those people there...

Well, he managed to run away from the 1st ;)

.....probably

[Knives122]

For all we know, the 1st was the one running away...

[FullMetalAlchemist]

For all we know, the 1st was the one running away...

I truely doubt that one lol. I seriously doubt any of the akatsuki can beat the konoha kages when they where at thier prime. Only one would be tsunade. She is powerful but mainly a medic ninja, and we haven't seen anythiong really special from her, also jiraya and orochimaru are stronger then her. The first four hokages where said to be the most poweful of thier time so i doubt kakuzu at that time could beat him, not even now. especially if naruto ends up beating him. We all know he isn't at the level of the first 4 hokages.

[Assertn]

I truely doubt that one lol. I seriously doubt any of the akatsuki can beat the konoha kages when they where at thier prime. Only one would be tsunade. She is powerful but mainly a medic ninja, and we haven't seen anythiong really special from her, also jiraya and orochimaru are stronger then her. The first four hokages where said to be the most poweful of thier time so i doubt kakuzu at that time could beat him, not even now. especially if naruto ends up beating him. We all know he isn't at the level of the first 4 hokages.

Also one could assume that the hokages mostly just fought to protect their own people. A loss for the 1st would've meant a loss for konoha itself. I don't think running away wouldve been an option for him.

Now that I think about it.....
It would be interesting to see how Kakuzu reacts to Yamato's fighting style, considering Yamato's the same as the 1st