View Full Version : Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion
Church
Fri, 02-02-2007, 12:16 AM
Ok... my thoughts on the episode...
First up, I found this quite funny...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/-Church-/vlcsnap-84359.png
:D This isn't that big of a deal since this show keeps pushing the envelope *cough*EP12-Nian*cough*
Anyways, Mae looks pretty dead to me, I was kind of expecting a longer plot arc, but I guess this is fine too. Though knowing Sunrise he might miraculasly come back later...
I'm guessing Geass can only be given to certain people, since the power also varies among them.
Personally I'm for the CC x Lelouch pairing, but it's just as well if there are no pairings in this series.
I'm wondering when did CC leave Mao? Since CC was around Lelouch when he was young, does that mean she abandoned Mao a long time ago? Around 7 years, the start of the war? Or was Mao around too, not that it really matters, just curious.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 02-02-2007, 01:35 AM
I think rather than buying time, lelouch is planning to at least be friends again with Shirley to avoid extreme suspicion. Actually, Im surprised no one has noticed yet, since I doubt Lelouch would go around the school saying he had a fight with shirley and to go along with the charade.
Well, Lelouch already made a promise to C.C., and from what weve seen of Lelouch, he keeps his promises no matter what (ie Nunnaly). I am hoping though, that their goals would contradict at a certain point, just to add more spice to the story.
What you said about only certain people being able to receive geass makes sense, and maybe that is the reason she chose both Mao and Lelouch. But we can only assume, since no definitive proof has been revealed yet.
EDIT: the young lelouch and C.C. scene must have been after she went separate ways with Mao (I think she mentioned something about how long ago they split). Also, C.C. was wearing her present clothes in the scene with Lelouch, while different ones with Mao (I know its weak, but it is still something).
Also, my entire assumption that C.C. chose Lelouch from that point would go down the drain if she was still with Mao by then.
animus
Fri, 02-02-2007, 12:46 PM
Villeta has nice jugs.
masamuneehs
Fri, 02-02-2007, 01:11 PM
awesome episode. I'm sad to see Mao go so fast, I really have a soft spot for crazies... He's also provided me with two lol moments, the shotgun in ep14 and the chain-saw in ep15. I love the way he's so dependent on normal technology, even with an ability like his. Flawed characters are the best. Seeing his background made me pity the poor guy, and I was hoping he'd spread some more light on C.C. and her "contract" and goals
I am also baffled as to why C.C. came to give Mao a Geass in the first place. Perhaps she recognizes this potential in people at a very early age (like when she's watching Lelouch and Suzaku climb the hill. they can't be much older than 8 or 9 in that). Her motives are still totally unknown to me... I think there's alot in that first episode that I should go back and pay attention to. But yeah, C.C. giving that kind of power out of pity doesn't seem right. She is quite an emotional character, but I don't think she'd do that.
Viletta hentai will be mine tonight. The amnesia cop-out sucks... unless you're Ougi...
I still think Lelouch handled the Shirley thing poorly.
Where is Orange?
Finally, I was really surprised by Lloyd's being an earl. And yeah, I'm totally with the "anime prophet" Ryll on the Suzaku x Euphie pairing. Pink haired pacifist bitches should die, goddamn. Also convinced me that Viletta's amnesia is the real thing... but if I'm wrong, man she's one hell of an actor.
shinta|hikari
Sat, 02-03-2007, 12:27 AM
Amnesia cop-out sucks totally. It kind of ruined the whole suspense building around Villeta.
Right now, I also agree that Lelouch handled the Shirley thing poorly. I dont have problems with the memory erasal, just how he followed it up. A lie like that wont hold up for long, even if this is anime.
The pink haired pacifist bitch (singular since I love Lacus) should die protecting the oxymoronic pacifist killer, then the damn hypocrite should just commit suicide from guilt.
BTW, ep 16 totally OWNS.
Ryllharu
Sat, 02-03-2007, 07:37 AM
Amnesia cop-out sucks totally. It kind of ruined the whole suspense building around Villeta.
I agree on the first part, but I don't think it ruins any of the suspense around her. True, even Ougi was disappointed when it turned out Viletta had amnesia. But now we're left in the typical, "What moment will she suddenly remember everything?" Sure, it's cliche, it's overused, but this show has surprised us time and time again. Some of the suspense around her is diffused, but the more they show her in an amnestic state, the suspense starts building again. Yes, the suspense has broken once, but rule number one at managing suspense in a series, always relieve some of the suspense, so your audience won't suspect a thing.
Board of Command
Sat, 02-03-2007, 11:49 AM
Where is Orange?
I thought he died getting run over by a truck?
Church
Sat, 02-03-2007, 12:53 PM
I thought he died getting run over by a truck?
The truck stopped in front of him and then he collapsed... we still don't have any idea if he died or not.
MFauli
Sat, 02-03-2007, 05:17 PM
Ah, when is episode 8 being released? :-/
Im still waiting for SHS-Ureshi-version...
.mkv suckz >_<
RyougaZell
Sat, 02-03-2007, 05:24 PM
Ah, when is episode 8 being released? :-/
Im still waiting for SHS-Ureshi-version...
.mkv suckz >_<
With their fame... 2009. :rolleyes:
Get over it.
I wonder when we will see every character that appeared on the first intro... like that girl I assume is the one who is helping the order from Kyoto.
Board of Command
Sat, 02-03-2007, 06:10 PM
Ah, when is episode 8 being released? :-/
Im still waiting for SHS-Ureshi-version...
.mkv suckz >_<
How does MKV suck? Please, explain.
mage
Sat, 02-03-2007, 07:49 PM
MKV is horrible for those that don't know how to play them. :)
animus
Sat, 02-03-2007, 09:09 PM
I hope we get to see more bewbs.
shinta|hikari
Sun, 02-04-2007, 12:07 AM
Whose boobs?
Yukimura
Sun, 02-04-2007, 12:39 AM
People who use a player that can't play mkvs bring it on themselves. Download CCCP and instal MPC and you're all set. The only file I've ever not been able to play was a porn file that was encoded in some weird proprietary format.
@shinta|hikari: does it really matter whose?
shinta|hikari
Sun, 02-04-2007, 12:53 AM
You want Nina's? Go ahead.
Akeruri
Tue, 02-06-2007, 11:21 AM
What's with the sudden descent into boob talk? ... ~.~
But, I might as well bring up Ougi and Viletta again.
How many episodes do you think until Lelouch discovers them together?
Munsu
Tue, 02-06-2007, 11:58 AM
1 episode.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 02-06-2007, 08:07 PM
Im not really complaining, but I wonder why the release of the subbed episodes became really long, from about a day or two to almost a week?
hitokiriender
Tue, 02-06-2007, 08:42 PM
Im not really complaining, but I wonder why the release of the subbed episodes became really long, from about a day or two to almost a week?
Maybe everyone, from the states, is hung over from Super Bowl weekend.
wraith
Tue, 02-06-2007, 08:53 PM
Donno about other subbers, but GG is starting to release their stuff in h.264 format, which caused a big flamefest on their site. The whole topic involved was removed, and an explanation was given. Likely they are 'behind' now because of that. All I know is that episode 16 is in QC currently, which doesn't really mean anything. Other than that, I really couldn't tell you.
Board of Command
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:33 AM
MKV is horrible for those that don't know how to play them. :)
...and whose fault is that?
FFDShow + Matroska Splitter + VSFilter = problem solved
Learn to use codecs and filters before complaining about container format please.
hitokiriender
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:35 AM
Just curious, what program do you guys use for .mkv files? I use Core Media Player now but I'm not impressed by it because it has so many bugs and etc.
Board of Command
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:38 AM
Any player works as long as you have Haali Splitter... After all, it's not the player that's opening the MKV.
Church
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:55 AM
I use Windows Media Player 10 with the codecs listed above. VLC is fail when it comes to softsubs...
RyougaZell
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:57 AM
I just hate when idiots flame fansubbers because they are 'late'. They have lifes. They do this for free. They can decide what damn codec to use.
Can't play them? Investigate what to install.
Can't wait? Learn damn japanese.
GG does a great job, worth the wait. And if they decide to delay because 99% of the supposed 'fans' can't wait, then let them delay the eps. GEEZ.
Oh yeah...
I use Media Player Classic, with only CCCP installed.
EDIT:
Before anyone here feels my post was directed to them... I meant the idiots that flamed GG on their website several days ago.
kooshi
Wed, 02-07-2007, 01:16 AM
I don't think your comments can be directed at anybody here in Gotwoot; nobody ever complains about "late" releases, except for the newbies who sign up just to complain.
Yukimura
Wed, 02-07-2007, 01:20 AM
CCCP with MPC is the way to go in my opinion. I've tried zoom, VLC, and for some dumb reason Windows Media Player 10. MPC was the only one that most seemlessly integrated UI functionality (WMP10 has NO keyboard shortcuts, WTF!), playback functionality (It'll play most anything newer than about 8 years and most stuff older than that, and it works much more consistently then VLC ever did for me), and special features (it takes screenshots, integrates easily with Haali, ffdshow, and such, and has a playlist. Good stuff.
Anyway, H.264 is a bit slower on my computer I've noticed and I don't really percieve the quality difference because I'm numb to most A/V quality variations above a certain threshold, the threshold being does this suck. However no one else is releasing CG so who is anyone to complain about how and when GG does what it does. Fansubbing is free market competition for no compensation other than the producers satisfaction, so if only one group gets enough satisfaction out of fansubbing to put out a particular show then people should be thankful for what they do and stfu if they don't like it.
Death13a
Wed, 02-07-2007, 01:22 AM
.mkv files i found "for me" are playing better in zplayer (comes with CCCP pack), while classic for everything else.
RyougaZell
Wed, 02-07-2007, 01:39 AM
I don't think your comments can be directed at anybody here in Gotwoot; nobody ever complains about "late" releases, except for the newbies who sign up just to complain.
Just being safe.
Several weeks ago I got neg repped in this thread because I pointed out something that was already discussed. I had skipped 3 pages of comments because I had been working late and not posting.
Anyway... my computer runs MKV with H264 fine. And I just have 2.4ghz, 256ram and 64mb video. Its somewhat 'old', I bought it almost 5 years ago already. I think...
And about Code Geass...
There are still many things to see... yet so few eps left... I hope the rumor of a 2nd season is true.
Kraco
Wed, 02-07-2007, 03:06 AM
I used to use Haali + ffdshow for h264, but actually just yesterday I turned off the ffdshow rendering for h264, and replaced it with CoreAVCdecoder. And I couldn't believe me bloody eyes (not literally bloody). It must be 50% faster than ffdshow, at least. Now, my computer isn't the fastest thing on earth, so I was rather pleased. Of course that manner of thing actually requires a bit more knowledge and trials than just clicking "Install", so it might be out of reach for n00bs, but any gotwooters certainly would be able to do it, should they ever feel like performing little experiments.
Oh, and #16 got released...
Episode 16 - gg (http://ggkthx.org/torrents/%5bgg%5d_Code_Geass_16_%5b912110E4%5d.mkv.torrent)
DVD Picture Book 1 - gg (http://ggkthx.org/torrents/%5bgg%5d_Code_Geass_-_Picture_Book_01_%5b75AA33CA%5d.mkv.torrent)
Edit: Damn, there was a fake episode 16v2 floating around... Now with the official link.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-07-2007, 04:17 AM
Like I said before, ep 16 OWNS.
I would never have guessed that Mao would come back. Code Geass just keeps surprising me. And using geass on himself is just pure genius, though I kind of figured it out when he came to play the final game without any plans. Its not that it isnt like Lelouch, since when it comes to Nunnaly he generally becomes stupid (as the episode shows) It would just be too strange for the meddling Suzaku to let him go like that.
What is "the new world" that C.C. mentioned? She actually told Mao to wait, so Im assuming if you die you go there. Is it some kind of afterlife? Or is it C.C.'s goal to die? So far, the second possibility is quite possible since apparently she simply cant die, and is maybe getting tired of living. This would mean that there is a definite separation in the end though, which might indeed be fitting, but I personally would not like.
Im so glad Suzaku (the super human wall running machine gun kicking bullet dodging mad bomb defusing skillz freak) went crazy in the end. If it was Mao that said it, then Suzaku did not really have any decent excuse for killing his father, since Mao would have read that as well. The only thing I liked about Suzaku was his "heroism" and willingness to sacrifice. Now that it has been revealed that it was all about guilt, I like him even less, but pity him more. It kind of balances out and results with the same level of hate as before.
Its also too weird that Suzaku accepted Lelouchs explanation of the matter with Mao and Nunally with such ease. If he still doesnt suspect Lelouch of anything after this, he is an absolute idiot (which he is, so he wont). He went crazy anyway, so it shouldnt matter.
Ryllharu
Wed, 02-07-2007, 07:51 AM
I was still pissed Mao came back, until he went after Suzaku. I really doubt we'd ever have heard that information any other way, since it's akin to Lulu telling everyone he is Zero, and more in addition, a former prince. I'm hoping C.C. shot Mao in the head, but it didn't really look/sound like it particularly, so for now I'll play it safe and assume he's not dead. But for all intents and purposes, he's been neutered. Lulu's impulsive use of the Geass is more than enough to make Mao pretty much harmless. Mao has always used revealing people's thoughts as his primary weapon, and since Lulu muted him permanently, there's only so much he could still do anymore.
At least Ougi isn't that stupid about keeping Viletta. He's got her under constant watch and doesn't really trust her. I was also surprised about Euphie and Cornelia's discussion in the garden. I really didn't know the two of them believed Lelouch and Nanali we both dead. It also didn't seem like Cornelia knew who killed their mother, since they talked about the how Clovis modeled the garden after Lulu's mother's palace. Maybe because she was with her precious Euphie, but I just don't see how Cornelia would know anything.
Milly and Lloyd? Didn't expect that one coming as her omiai. Though, they do have similar personalities...
Looks like next time we get Kallen in her sexy new pilot suit, and the incredibly obvious appointment of Suzaku as Euphie's Knight.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-07-2007, 09:54 AM
Im pretty sure Mao is dead.
Okay I will prove it. First, he got shot in the side of the neck, and judging by the angle of the gun, the bullet would have passed through a majority of his brain cells and nerves.
Second, his geass, which was supposed to be permanent, ceased functioning before he dropped to the ground. I think his geass was supposed to work even when he sleeps, so if its gone, he's dead.
Third, C.C. told him to wait for her in the "new world" (whatever that is), so at least C.C. thinks he is dead. I doubt an old gal like her (with killer moves btw) would make the mistake of Mao not being dead at such a close proximity.
In conclusion, he is mute AND dead.
Ryllharu
Wed, 02-07-2007, 10:41 AM
Good enough for me. I just don't want what happened in this episode to happen again. I hate Mao, and I want to see him dead (as in decapitated and on a pike, so we can be sure).
As for the "new world," I think we've heard about it before. Maybe not quite in those words, but at least in reference. Since Euphie and Cornelia brought Clovis back up, I remembered an earlier scene where we saw the Emperor talking to his advisers. They mentioned Clovis' death, and the Emperor said something along the lines of 'I've been talking to him for the last hour.' That's some creepy shit.
I'm not even sure I can speculate about that, but I'm sure C.C. has something to do with it in some way.
RyougaZell
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:05 PM
Quite an excellent episode.
Did someone mentioned Mao coming back because Sunrise loved bringing characters back? LOL
Suzaku killed his father? wow... talk about... what Lelouch wants to do, kill his own.
The scene with Cornelia and Euphemia surprised because of how they spoke of their 'dead' relatives and for seeing a girly Cornelia...
Picture book showed more about the past of Suzaku, Lelouch and Nunnaly... wow... Suzaku was a britannian hater back then... and now he is a Britannian dog...
Yukimura
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Very nice ep, I knew Lelouch had a plan when he went to face Mao but I had no idea he'd Geass himself, clever guy. But with Mao I didn't hear a gunshot, so I initially thought that she had injected him with something that at the least removed his Geass and at best killed him right out.
And now Suzaku is even more hated then ever in my eyes. He killed his dad b/c he didn't agreee with him...at like 10 years old. Wouldn't it be great if all countries could have 10 year old Prime Ministers that would kill anyone they thought wanted to do things a different way from their obviously correct choices. Though I'm guessing that the patricide happened after Suzaku walked through all those dead bodies and that he did it b/c he decided that life as a slaves was better than death.
masamuneehs
Wed, 02-07-2007, 12:52 PM
Triple wow in this episode:
Wow #1: Mao came back. Guess I'm the only one who was happy about this... but then Mao played a pretty weak hand in his attempt to beat Lelouch. I liked him because he wasn't all about crazy elaborate plans and flashy villainery, but then he goes and does cookie-cutter villain shit. Photo of the kidnapped, bomb preventing rescue, climactic showdown in the form of the main character's preferred sport/hobby in order to humilate him... He deserves to be dead, and real dead, this time.
But, I'm confused. At the start, C.C. was going off to China (or somewhere), so how'd she get back so fast and in time to save the day? (this ep is all one school day) Was her killing Mao some sort of symbolic thing? Like Lelouch Geassed him to "become mute, leave here immediately and die"... Thoughts?
Wow #2: Earl Lloyd's proposal. I mean, wow.
Wow #3: Suzaku's past. I didn't see that coming at all, but it shows alot about his character and makes perfect sense for his whole "I've joined Britannia to quell the uprising so no more people die in the fighting" motto. I still think he's a good guy, and I understand where he gets that fighting notion from. I'd disagree with it...
I wonder if Mao exaggerated the truth about Suzaku's motivation for fighting? Mao made it seem like Suzaku is just doing this to make up for his sin and somehow justify killing his father. But I wonder if that's the whole story. To me, Suzaku freaked out because Mao introduced that idea to him, and that he, up until that point, truly believed what he was doing was a noble effort to prevent the loss of life that he witnessed when Japan fell. I see him struggling with it briefly, but ultimately putting the past behind him (unlike Lelouch) and sticking with his convictions that he is fighting so others won't die.
He may be wrong, and on the wrong side, but I still admire Suzaku. I still don't get why everyone hates him. If anything, Lelouch is the one to be hated, using people like objects for his own ends (revenge) and causing strife in the present to make up for the past. I don't buy the whole "make a new and better world so people don't end up suffering like Nanally" bit at all.
well, i suppose part of what makes this show great is how it makes people feel about the characters. That and the absolutely awesome plot.
RIP Mao, for real this time please.
edit - and what of this "new world" indeed... Something for me to think about in class today...
Ryllharu
Wed, 02-07-2007, 01:26 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Lloyd and Milly's Omiai. The two them do have a more similar demeanor now that I think about it. Lloyd uses Suzaku as his toy, and Milly uses the entire student council (and occasionally the rest of the Academy). I do kind of see them fitting together. Milly was acting very formal and unlike herself until Lloyd made the lightning-fast proposal, and then we saw a little bit of her normal self.
Sure, the main plot is great, but it's the tiny side scenes that eventually connect back that make the series excellent.
suckitdry
Wed, 02-07-2007, 03:07 PM
F yeah! This show = the r0xx0r!! But i hate Suzakyu he=kira
Death13a
Wed, 02-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Greatest episode of all times!!!!
I like how Lelouch admited defeat and how praticly shattered when he thought Nanully died (understandbel as he carried her for most of his life on his back). Suzaku didn't know that he killed his father was kinda cheese but news flash and his reaction to it was great.
Church
Wed, 02-07-2007, 10:17 PM
I knew he'd be back... sunrise is so predictable sometimes. Jugding from this then I'll safely sat that Villetta actually lost her memories, but it'll come back later in a very hurried and dues ex machina fashion.
Good episode overall, but some parts felt a little weak, don't know why, but it does.
I was hoping we'd see some of Rakshata, but I guess we'll have to wait. And maybe we'll get to see more of Kaguya Sumeragi, the head of the Kyoto house, which should be pretty interesting considering she knew Suzaku and Lelouch from their childhood times.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-07-2007, 10:34 PM
did suzaku not know? Im thinking he does, but just simply escapes from reality by making excuses to himself for what he did. If he did not know, then he would not become the life-risking daredevil he is now, since that is derived from guilt.
EDIT: just watched the picture book. I understand now why Lelouch is so intent on protecting Nunnaly. He has already done so much for her. I am convinced that the real Lelouch is the one interacts with Nunnaly, and the more twisted version of him is the product of all the hate that has built up inside him for all that has happened.
Suzaku beat Lelouch up... He MUST die. The old suzaku and the new suzaku arent too different. Both talk about things they dont really understand (ie Japan's status then, changing Britannia now), are idiots and charge blindly without really analyzing properly if what he is doing is correct or not.
Someone said Lelouch should be hated, well maybe, but not as much as Suzaku should be. He killed his own father because of sheer idiocy dammit. Lelouch at least has revenge going for him. What Mao said is pretty much true I think. Though Suzaku did indeed have in him a strong sense of justice, now he just uses it to escape from the truth (which is that he want to die).
Also, Lelouch wants to create a new world NOT for the sake of the world, but for Nunnaly's sake.
masamuneehs
Fri, 02-09-2007, 04:26 PM
just saw the picture book short, pretty interesting, giving us how Suzaku and Lelouch first met...
I understand that Suzaku is often wrong, and seldom knows how ill-informed/naive he is. But, I don't know why, I still like him better than Lelouch... and this is coming from a huge Kira Yamato hater...
i LOL'd at the part of the picture book where Lelouch is carrying Nunnaly up those steps and it's the cheap .gif of a still shot of her on his back, moving up and down in the frame. Lelouch has this exasperated look on his face and she's asking "Are you allright brother?" It just looked so naughty and wrong...
also, at the very end, Lelouch: "That was my first encounter with Suzaku. To me, who was always surrounded by rivals and vassals, he was my first friend. And eventually... he would become the man who was my worst enemy."
so, although we all expect it, it's confirmed that Lelouch will soon figure out that Suzaku is the Lancelot pilot... wonder how that'll impact their friendship... I know Lelouch will try to act like everything's normal.... but...
darkshadow
Fri, 02-09-2007, 04:49 PM
he wont kill him, worse he could do to him is geass him to forget all about his knightmare piloting skills, making him useless as a pilot.
Munsu
Fri, 02-09-2007, 09:43 PM
so, although we all expect it, it's confirmed that Lelouch will soon figure out that Suzaku is the Lancelot pilot... wonder how that'll impact their friendship... I know Lelouch will try to act like everything's normal.... but...
I always assumed that he already knew that Suzaku was piloting it. I don't think the Lacelot pilot is a secret. I may be mistaken.
Mae
Fri, 02-09-2007, 10:01 PM
I always assumed that he already knew that Suzaku was piloting it. I don't think the Lacelot pilot is a secret. I may be mistaken.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't know. Suzaku has never said anything about it, and in the last episode Lelouche made some sort of comment about how he thought Suzaku was in the research division.
And interesting ep. Not really in the main plotline but still enjoyable. Oh, and I totally called Suzaku killing his father. Very interesting parallel with Lalouche. I hope this kills the whole Kira comparison, because Suzaku is obviously not just an innocent pacifist. Although he was very young and traumatized by the death he had witnessed so there are some mitigating circumstances. He probably didn't plan it either. Also explains why he is so committed to the idea of coexisting with Britannia. After killing your own father for a cause it's sort of hard to admit you were wrong later.
Also, where can I find this picture book or whatever?
Honoko
Sat, 02-10-2007, 02:06 AM
Also, where can I find this picture book or whatever?
I beleive u can find it rite here: click! (http://ggkthx.org/torrents/%5bgg%5d_Code_Geass_-_Picture_Book_01_%5b75AA33CA%5d.mkv.torrent)
shinta|hikari
Sat, 02-10-2007, 09:06 AM
I actually just assumed since the C.C. mind reading incident that Suzaku killed his own father. I dont know why, but thats the kind of guy I believed him to be. Never even thought about another possibility.
oyabun
Tue, 02-13-2007, 09:27 AM
I assumed back then that suzaku did something stupid that lead to the death of his father, I did not expect that he killed his own father for his weird reasons. He obviously did not understand the situation back then because he is still a child.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 02-13-2007, 10:34 AM
Still, he is some sick child to kill his father just because he thinks he knows what he is doing.
oyabun
Tue, 02-13-2007, 12:06 PM
did suzaku really just charge in and killed his father? maybe there are other factors involve.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 02-13-2007, 08:07 PM
Well, from what the Mao's testimony shows, yes he did. So far, that is the only real evidence we can use to base any guesses. Judging from the kind of person Suzaku was from the picture book (charging in without thinking and resorting to violence), its not really that unlikely.
oyabun
Wed, 02-14-2007, 06:59 AM
that maybe true, but still, you won't catchup to my post count. Because.. I'll keep posting, anyway,if there is no other reason why he ended up killing his father, that is just stupid.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-14-2007, 09:24 AM
Well Suzaku IS stupid. Even the pro-suzaku people will have an impossible time disproving that. He is also naive, which is why a lot of people hate him (for all those who asked why).
On another note, do you guys think they will really finish the plot within 25 episodes? The remaining show time seems too short to properly develop the main plot... Maybe there will be a 2nd season or something. I just hope they dont screw up the ending (like they almost always do) and ruin code geass for me.
oyabun
Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:12 AM
yeap, i think there will be a second season, there are a lot of advertisment posibilities considering how great this anime is, I even know someone who eats pizzahut's pizza everyday because of c2 eating it.
KitKat
Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:20 AM
Ok you two, quit spamming the forum to increase your post count. Remember the very first rule of gotwoot here. We're glad that you want to be active members of the community, but try to increase the quality rather than the quantity of your posts.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:23 AM
Pizza hut everyday? thats incredibly unhealthy, not to mention expensive.
I saw something in a japanese website before about a second season, nothing has been confirmed though. A code geass 2 would make my year, maybe even 2 years.
EDIT : I really dont think there is anything wrong with the quality of my posts though.
Ryllharu
Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:34 AM
Off-topic one last time:
It's the two or three sentence posts in an 15+ threads that is causing the concern. Consider that you [shinta|hikari] typically compose rather long posts, particularly in this thread and the Kanon one, it brings an odd light to your current postings
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:51 AM
Last one:
Thats true, since Oyabin is actually provoking me to top his posts. Im not denying this, but I am still careful in the sense that my posts actually have substance, though not as much elaboration as my usual ones. I cant say the same for him though, but then again he is not my responsibility.(though I also warned him about the senselessness of his posts in some threads and in private message)
I know its silly, but its over now anyway. Sorry if this caused some trouble.
EDIT: I just realized my warn meter went up 10 percent. Guess its about what I deserve.
Yukimura
Wed, 02-14-2007, 01:59 PM
Did somone delete a bunch of posts or something? /me glares at Kitkat...
If so, when deleting part of a flame war it would be nice to remove referances to it in the posts you don't delete, just as a courtesy. I'm not talking about people saying hey stop flaming as much as stuff like:
that maybe true, but still, you won't catchup to my post count. Because.. I'll keep posting, anyway,if there is no other reason why he ended up killing his father, that is just stupid.
This posts makes no sense at all and I can only assume something was deleted that prompted him to say this. So I guess what I'm saying is that this post should have been deleted also (if any deleting took place, it's possible oyabin just randomly started talking about his post count to people who aren't there like C.C does sometimes).
Ninja mod edit:
I didn't delete anything. Don't glare at me. Some people just don't make much sense. :)
-KitKat
Ninja Capitulation Edit: /me withdraws glare and replaces with a cookie basket
Back on topic sort of...Suzaku is a patricidal lunatic with lots of power, lots of angst, and anot enough booze in him. There's prety much no chance he won't be used to progress the story so our hatred of him must be borne in order for the full plot to come to fruition.
Kraco
Sun, 02-18-2007, 06:06 PM
KitKat's cookie basket is the best companion for watching more Geass:
Episode 17 - gg (http://fhdh.org/torrents/%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_17_%5B5CC675ED%5D.mkv.torrent)
Also, the next episode seems to be another recap, 17.5. But on the other hand, since this #17 was so delayed, the wait won't be so long anymore till the real next episode.
RyougaZell
Sun, 02-18-2007, 08:03 PM
About time Lelouch planned an strategy against Lancelot. Too bad for him it all went down the drain the moment he discovered the pilot was Suzaku.
And we finally get to see Kallen again... two eps without her =(
On another matter... like Kraco stated... ep 18 should be around the corner, thanks to ep 17 being delayed. I'll download ep 17.5, but like 8.5 I really do not expect much.
Btw... what did Shirley found? I guess its something she wrote before being geass'ed... or was it a photograph of her and Lelouch?
As less episodes are left I keep hoping the rumors of a 2nd season are true.
Knives122
Sun, 02-18-2007, 08:55 PM
The thing shirley found was the letter she was writting in her room after she found about Lelouch being Zero.
Everon
Sun, 02-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Nice episode. It seems like Lelouch has decided to use his geass on Suzaku.
Looking at the bigger picture, I keep expecting Lelouch and Nunally's identities to be discovered by the royal family.
Deadfire
Mon, 02-19-2007, 12:14 AM
Two things I loved about this EP
1. That Zero and crew totally owned everyone.
2. That we are seeing a little conflict involving the thoughts of the princess involving elevens and the empire. It gives this all a interesting 3d look it to the entire story
Two things that bugged me about this EP
1. Everything simply blew up.. even when there wasn't anything around it or anything near it...it blew up.
2. The animation in parts were very subpar, I don't know what it was but some of the action parts had degraded animation.
Yukimura
Mon, 02-19-2007, 12:46 AM
Damn, Suzaku is majorly overpowered. He managed to attack 4 targets simultaneously and disarm all or them with no injury to their pilots. I mean come on, we all know their ripping massively from Gundam Seed (and improving, I won't sell it short) but that was just plain unforgivable.
Anyway, I realized after watching episode 17 that Suzaku is one of the main things that makes this show new and different for me. If he didn't exist this would just be another genius high underdog high schooler vs massive evil organization, with 26+ episodes of him wining victory after victory against an opponent he should have no chance against. Instead we get the genius high school student coming up with all these awesome plans that would work perfectly if not for his childhood friend and his Strike-God-ZZ Gundam Zero ruining his plans at nearly every turn. Lelouch seems to always achive his tactical objectives but Suzaku is single handedly keeping him from the strategic victories his genius plotting should be providing.
I'm not sure what the future holds but I can't think of a reason for Lelouch not to geass Suzaku into following any orders he gives the next time he sees him.
Kraco
Mon, 02-19-2007, 01:19 AM
CC didn't look overly amused when listening to Lelouch laugh alone in his mecha. Maybe she was afraid she's foreseeing another Mao... But then again, it was pretty crazy laughter. Lelouch took this much needed discovery much harher than I thought. Also, I hadn't really noticed or thought before Lelouch was trying to get Suzaku and Nunally married. I guess I underestimated how honestly he really was fighting for his sister's future (as he thinks it should turn out - I doubt Nunally shares that vision), and not just for revenge.
Well, it'll be interesting to see if Lelouch can handle the new situation. And what manner of geass he's going to use against Suzaku. And I guess Shirley's not completely out of the picture yet, after all, due to the letter.
shinta|hikari
Mon, 02-19-2007, 01:45 AM
I dont think he is going to use geass on Suzaku just yet. Using it immediately would actually be a tactical miss, since geass can be used on him at anytime, which would give him the flexibility to adapt to certain situations (ie turning lancelot against the empire in a key battle). Im betting he has a plan though, which involves manipulating Suzaku without the use of geass on him directly.
I think that simultaneous attack was not Suzaku but the lancelot. Maybe its a self guiding disarming system, since it would be humanly impossible to target four targets and actually not damage any of them. Suzaku obviously didnt have qualms about destroying the enemy, as seen when he threw his sword and damaged a unit in the battle.
I think Suzaku is the ONLY plot hole in Code Geass. This has been mentioned before, but why did Lelouch not plan against Suzaku in all the previous battles? Why now? It just doesnt make sense, until you consider the fact that they just want Suzaku to be part of the plot. If it wasnt the case, Lelouch would have devised a plan against him after their first meeting, (and defeated the bastard too) since he is a tactical genius after all.
Suzaku is soooo lucky Lelouch wasnt Kira (Death Note), otherwise he wouldve been dead.
Ryllharu
Mon, 02-19-2007, 08:20 AM
It's been mentioned over and over during conversations with Suzaku that everyone thought he was in the Research Division, in a non-combatant role. He never lied to anyone about it, he always just said "research division." Everyone simply assumed the rest. This became clear when his cockpit was cleaved open and the reporters were all in shock that an Eleven was piloting a Knightmare, not to mention the most advanced one. It would be a huge shame upon Britannia if Euphie hadn't to saved it by declaring him her personal Knight. I'm sure she wanted to do it anyway, but there was not better time.
So Lulu hasn't been ignoring Suzaku, he honestly didn't believe his friend would be piloting a Knightmare, since he had no reason no to believe Suzaku's story about being a non-combatant.
Is it just me, or does Rakshata's voice not really seem to fit? I kinda expected her to have the typical lower-toned voice (like Atsuko Tanaka) associated with characters of her type, but we get Shinobu from Love Hina instead. I suppose there really is no end to the ways this series can surprise me. I do kind of like it though, since it is so atypical for characters like her.
shinta|hikari
Mon, 02-19-2007, 07:10 PM
It's been mentioned over and over during conversations with Suzaku that everyone thought he was in the Research Division, in a non-combatant role. He never lied to anyone about it, he always just said "research division." Everyone simply assumed the rest. This became clear when his cockpit was cleaved open and the reporters were all in shock that an Eleven was piloting a Knightmare, not to mention the most advanced one. It would be a huge shame upon Britannia if Euphie hadn't to saved it by declaring him her personal Knight. I'm sure she wanted to do it anyway, but there was not better time.
So Lulu hasn't been ignoring Suzaku, he honestly didn't believe his friend would be piloting a Knightmare, since he had no reason no to believe Suzaku's story about being a non-combatant.
Im assuming I wasnt clear enough. Lelouch has been ignoring the the lancelot itself in all the previous battles, not really thinking of ANY countermeasure against it. It doesnt matter if he knew Suzaku was the pilot or not.
But the fact that Suzaku was the pilot is probably what caused such an inconsistency, to prevent a main character from simply dying like he logically should have.
And Suzaku lied like crazy, saying that he wasnt exposed to combat and danger, clearly untrue.
masamuneehs
Tue, 02-20-2007, 09:20 AM
i don't see anything wrong with Suzaku's lying about being the Lancelot pilot. Hell, Lloyd and all of Britannia told him to keep quiet about it. Ryl mentioned that he never elaborated on his role in the Research Division, and I can't imagine you'd expect him to go to all his friends and say, "Yeah, so I'm the new ace pilot for Britannia".
I thought this episode was sorta blah. None of the new characters struck me as anything special, the climax is something we've seen coming for a long time, the animation did look a little sloppy... I was actually interested in which picture Euphie would pick to be the winner, hoping she'd snub that ugly propaganda piece...
Seeing how nervous Suzaku was about the execution was also a cool part, along with Euphie finally making Suzaku her knight.
Oh! and that note Shirley found in her room... looks like alot of our hunches were right, Lelouch's Geass memory-wipe appears to be an inadequate move after all. I really want to see what becomes of that. And where is Orange?
obviously hoping for more episodes, but only if they don't beef the story up with fan service and stupid crap. So far this show is awesome. And I'd rather it be 26 episodes of awesome rather than 39 with a diluted second half.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 02-20-2007, 12:00 PM
I never said Suzaku lying about it itself was wrong, just that what Ryl said about Suzaku never lying about it is wrong.
Is geass memory loss reversible? If it isnt, then the greatest danger that can be caused by Shirley finding the letter is exposing her memory loss, which I admit is a big deal, but not as big as knowing Zero's identity.
Ryllharu
Tue, 02-20-2007, 12:45 PM
He never once blatantly said he wasn't exposed to danger. If I'm wrong, please, episode number and timestamp. Or at least a screen cap.
Not saying anything is not the same as lying. He's only ever said he's in the research division and at most, "It's nothing too dangerous". Which is true, to a point. He's only ever been close to danger against Kallen and just now. It really isn't as if he's going out on missions with Cornelia and cleansing everyone in sight. Most of the time, he's on standby sitting with Lloyd and Cecile. The series shows him in a lot of combat, but compared to Cornelia, who's always on one extermination or another, he really hasn't seen all that much combat.
No one has anything to say about Raksharta, the evil scientist with the voice of a grade schooler?
Church
Tue, 02-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Is geass memory loss reversible? If it isnt, then the greatest danger that can be caused by Shirley finding the letter is exposing her memory loss, which I admit is a big deal, but not as big as knowing Zero's identity.
It's reversible, otherwise Lelouch wouldn't have remembered how he geassed himself in the last episode. I was sort of hoping it would be like a mental block, where as soon as one remembers or starts to feel something, then it's erased from their head again...
RyougaZell
Tue, 02-20-2007, 02:24 PM
I don't think thats the same case.
Lelouch Geass'ed himself to forget he gave himself an order. He didn't order himself to forget all about Geass.
At most Shirley will get uber headaches trying to remember something erased from his brain.
Sure, both orders are similar, but Lelouch remembered just by knowing he has Geass. Shirley didn't react at seeing Lelouch at the tombstone nor at school. Her note will most likely confuse her, and may even drive her crazy, but she won't remember that easily as Lelouch.
In Lelouch's case it didn't have a side effect. In Shirley's case it may brake her down once again.
Edit to below:
You are right. I had forgotten about the red around a Geass'ed individual. That was the best way for Lelouch to notice. While Shirley's case will be more complicated.
Deadfire
Tue, 02-20-2007, 03:28 PM
I don't think thats the same case.
Lelouch Geass'ed himself to forget he gave himself an order. He didn't order himself to forget all about Geass.
My thought on that one was that he noticed that he had been geass'ed by seeing the red around his own eyes and from there asumed what had happened.
So yes my thoughts exactly
shinta|hikari
Tue, 02-20-2007, 07:19 PM
Not saying anything is not the same as lying. He's only ever said he's in the research division and at most, "It's nothing too dangerous". Which is true, to a point. He's only ever been close to danger against Kallen and just now. It really isn't as if he's going out on missions with Cornelia and cleansing everyone in sight. Most of the time, he's on standby sitting with Lloyd and Cecile. The series shows him in a lot of combat, but compared to Cornelia, who's always on one extermination or another, he really hasn't seen all that much combat.
Oh come on. A half truth is a whole lie, and its not just an expression. Lying doesnt have to involve saying the exact words. By simply saying things that would provoke the understanding of something different from the truth on purpose is lying. Suzaku implied that he was a non-combatant, which he wasnt, which was in effect lying. Doesnt really matter much though.
RyougaZell
Thu, 02-22-2007, 12:47 AM
From Code Geass DVD 2
WARNING - NOT WORK SAFE
http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0102.jpg
http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0103.jpg
Wonder if they decided to censor that scene because the series was just beginning and then decided to not censor anymore (Viletta's scene a few eps ago)
Second screenshot is from the 2nd Special or something.
Knives122
Thu, 02-22-2007, 07:33 PM
Hmmmmmmm CG got new op. clips actually makes the song seem more enjoyable....notice how I said seem.
Fast paced super actiony (http://rs51.rapidshare.com/files/17765929/CODE_GEASS_-_OP2.5.avi)
Yukimura
Sat, 02-24-2007, 04:10 AM
I must agree whole-heartedly with Knives. I like this song 100 times more now because the new OP sequence went so well with it. It seems like part of it wasn't complete but they wanted to switch to the new song anyway so they just tossed in what they had and left out the rest until now.
shinta|hikari
Sat, 02-24-2007, 12:03 PM
I loved this song from day 1. Well, at least much more than colors, which I felt was too... normal for code geass. Oddness is what fits in with this series.
Board of Command
Sat, 02-24-2007, 01:46 PM
From Code Geass DVD 2
WARNING - NOT WORK SAFE
http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0102.jpg
http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0103.jpg
Wonder if they decided to censor that scene because the series was just beginning and then decided to not censor anymore (Viletta's scene a few eps ago)
Second screenshot is from the 2nd Special or something.
OMG THANK YOU SIR
Elyne
Sat, 02-24-2007, 03:03 PM
hmm.. Sort of forgot about this serie, but now I've picked it up again and of course I run into trouble..
After ep 14 I can't get subs to work.. I've been using VLC and up until episode 15 I've had no trouble(except for an crash every now and then), so hoping that someone might be able to help me.
Kraco
Sat, 02-24-2007, 03:29 PM
I suggest changing to some other player. VLC has a broken softsub rendering engine, and certain type of subtitle formatting causes the program to crash. And that certain type is occassionally used in Geass (and other animes. It's normal, VLC is abnormal). I think gg tried to avoid it to an extend before ep 15, but then got bored of it, mainly because some VLC users continuously blame subbers for something that's VLC's own fault.
Or at least that's how I've understood the situation, and I doubt I'm misinformed.
Board of Command
Sat, 02-24-2007, 04:48 PM
VLC sucks. I can't believe so many people still rave about this piece of shit. What you want is the following:
- Media Player Classic / BSPlayer / anything other than VLC or WMP
- FFDShow (recent version from Afterdawn or something)
- Haali Splitter
- VSFilter
Learn to use these things in conjunction, especially FFDShow, and you can play any format you want. A one-solution player (like VLC) is almost never the best option.
Death13a
Sat, 02-24-2007, 05:52 PM
I use Z player that comes with CCCP pack for Geass and mkv files and Classic for rest. And rarely VLC for 'abnormal' files.
Elyne
Sat, 02-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Thanks for the replies. Never had any trouble with VLC before I started to watch Geass so I wouldn't say it suck that much.
masamuneehs
Tue, 02-27-2007, 05:08 PM
The second recap episode is out from gg... now i just wish we'd get a real episode!
Code Geass _ Episode 17.5 (Recap episode#2) _ ggfansubs _ .mkvformat (http://lesbianocracy.com:54321/torrents/ee20c0143833205eba0c2c0ad7d65ba4a31a2631.torrent)
Lucifus
Tue, 02-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Shinta got me hooked on this anime and I'm absolutly loving it. Probably the first "Mecha" I can say I truly enjoy. Now where the f*cks the next episode!:rolleyes: :(
shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-28-2007, 02:18 AM
Lucifus - Glad to see that you watched and liked it. Still cant find a scanner, but when I do I will post some code geass fan art on my crossover thread.
I agree that code geass isnt really the typical "mecha" type anime, and is probably why everyone likes it. Hell, who wouldnt? Even a retarded friend of mine who couldnt remember the name of the main character (Lelouch) after marathoning 13 episodes still liked it.
mage
Fri, 03-02-2007, 10:17 PM
I use WMP to play this series and it works just fine.
(referring to the posts on the previous page, for the person who neg repped me. Thanks!)
eat_toast
Sun, 03-04-2007, 09:35 PM
Wow.... I've been debating whether or not to pick this up, because it looked like another generic mecha anime .... but after Lelouche does that evil smile in ep. 1, I was hooked. Since I'm under the weather, I basically just marathoned through all 17.5 episodes..... awesome series, can't wait for more!
shinta|hikari
Sun, 03-04-2007, 10:21 PM
That is exactly the experience I had when I watched episode 1. That Lelouch evil grin sold this anime for me (as well as the fact that the main girl character !!!yes she is!!! got shot in the head in the very first episode)
Yukimura
Sun, 03-04-2007, 10:50 PM
Code Geass - 18 by Your-Mom (http://diditfor.thelulz.com/%5BYour-Mom%5D_Code_Geass_-_18_%5BB5E144AC%5D.avi.torrent)
We al know You-Mom sucks, but Gode Geass doesn't suck so if you don't care about dling twice join me in checking out this ep.
RyougaZell
Sun, 03-04-2007, 11:30 PM
I was totally tempted to download this one from your-mom but... I decided to wait for gg... yet the ep is still at "editing state" according to the status section of their page...
Lucifus
Mon, 03-05-2007, 12:15 AM
Bab Jesus. Great fing ep! Loved it. So cant wait for the next one.
Death13a
Mon, 03-05-2007, 12:33 AM
ep18 I watched RAW; i watched You-mom release; and i will watch GG release.
Same for ep 19 when i subbed
shinta|hikari
Mon, 03-05-2007, 12:53 AM
Finally a sub came out. Ive been waiting to comment on this episode since I watched the raw. This episode just didnt do the trick for me, mainly because it is a Suzaku episode (just saying that makes me want to puke).
I also think Lelouch is being too soft on Suzaku. I take back what I said earlier about using Geass on Suzaku is a tactical miss. Being aware of Suzaku's extreme stubborness and idiocy, normal persuasion and logic just wont do the trick. Suzaku's hardheadedness is to the extent that Geass might not even work on him (But it should, and probably will). The only reasonable action to be taken is to Geass the fucking bastard and get it over with, but I guess even Lelouch has a weakpoint other than Nunally.
Will they really be able to pull so many loose strings together in the remaining few episodes? Or will there be a season 2?
Yukimura
Mon, 03-05-2007, 01:05 AM
Wow, first off, Your-Mom managed to make something I didn't find any immediate faults with, Impressive. Second, episode 18 was excellent from start to finish. The new OP scenes imply that Jerimiah is coming back with a vengeance and a new evil looking outfit. Kallen definately head over heels for Zero if we weren't sure before, and Euphemia is a crazy fool who just might be in love as well.
Lelouch clearly wants to convince Suzaku with reason to join his side, while Suzaku is a twisted lunatic clinging to his totalitarian ideology of, "I'm right and even if I'm not I should never change my mind about anything". Then we have cool strategy and technology employed by the OotBK and a tense face to face confrontation between Zero and Suzaku, with the Geass window finally opened....What more could we ask for, how about a new royal family member with a Destroy Gundam, a giant airship, and most likely, an axe to grind against Area Eleven. Wonderful.
Oh and I think the Emperor may know about Lelouch being alive.
EDIT: Spelling and...Code Geass - 19 - [Your-Mom] (http://diditfor.thelulz.com/%5bYour-Mom%5d_Code_Geass_-_19_%5b2391AADA%5d.avi.torrent)
OMG there was actually a mental elevator....
eat_toast
Mon, 03-05-2007, 03:02 PM
After watching 18, I only have one question. Is Code Geass really just the biggest Pizza Hut ad ever?
mage
Mon, 03-05-2007, 03:26 PM
I didn't even notice any Pizza Hut ads in 18. Guess they were pretty subtle.
eat_toast
Mon, 03-05-2007, 03:35 PM
What, besides the fact that the entire party in 18 was catered by Pizza Hut? Or that all C.C eats is Pizza Hut?
Post ep. 19 edit: wtf?! Explanation is needed.
masamuneehs
Mon, 03-05-2007, 05:49 PM
christ almighty....
i told myself i'd be patient and wait for GG's releases... told myself that no matter how good this show is, it's best to just wait for a reputable fansub group to release the episodes... But now Your-Mom has two new ones out and people are saying that they're not awful?
What do i do? What do i do?
Knives122
Mon, 03-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Your-mom said at the bottom of the screen that they would stop when GG gets back on track....so you can do that I guess...
Church
Mon, 03-05-2007, 08:20 PM
lol, when fansubbers compete, you win :P
RyougaZell
Mon, 03-05-2007, 09:42 PM
WARNING! Skip if you desire to wait for GG and won't watch Your-Mom's release
OMG OMG OMG!!!
I fell to the temptation and saw both episodes and WOW!!
Kallen Fanservice...
Identities revealed...
Geass unleashed...
New black Knightmare...
Kallen Fanservice...
seriously... I don't have words for it... I'll keep getting this guys releases and then simply download gg for saving.
Season 2 is a must... there are still characters on the opening that haven't been introduced... or re-introduced.
Oh yeah... does the emperor's scene... wow...
And Kallen Fanservice!!!
RZ <-- Is an idiot for Kallen
EDIT:
messed up... said geass instead of knightmare
Lucifus
Mon, 03-05-2007, 11:27 PM
Don't read if you haven't watched the Your-Mom subs version!
Yes...I am now totally in love with Kallen and the last two eps of Code Geass.
Seems like Lelouch has finally gotten himself a kickazz Knightmare to own people with. Now whats up with this Geass......:D :rolleyes:
animus
Mon, 03-05-2007, 11:47 PM
This series just keeps throwing twists and turns. I'm thoroughly happy that such a out-of-the-norm mecha series developped. I haven't watched an anime in a looooong time that has me seething for more and more.
Church
Tue, 03-06-2007, 01:45 AM
I am in awe at the two episodes... and totally lost...
My thought on the episodes
SPOILERS
Well... the island was the biggest GS flashback ever... only differences are the characters weren't totally clueless, and it was much more interesting.
Euphie's brother kind of reminds me of Lelouch a bit, with the "I've got everything in control" and "nothing can go against me/over-confident" mentality...
It's about time we start seeing some division in the order of the black kights, it's inevitable as their numbers are growing and different people start joining.
C.C. was awesome... I had actually totally completely forgot about the voice in her head. I'm starting to question her loyalty.
Mental elevator? WTF? I feel like I just completely missed something important...
/SPOILERS
Is it just me or did the last two episode seemed a little different? I can't exactly place my finger on it, but the style? seemed to be a little different than normal... Might be just the lack of Geass lately ;)
Yukimura
Tue, 03-06-2007, 02:11 AM
@RZ What is this new/Black Geass you're talking about? I didn't notice anything involving Geass other than the symbol appearing on the 'mental elevator' as it activated. And Amen to the Kallen fanservice. Where was she hiding those things the first 18 eps I hardly even noticed she had breasts till 19's bounty.
animus
Tue, 03-06-2007, 08:05 AM
@RZ What is this new/Black Geass you're talking about? I didn't notice anything involving Geass other than the symbol appearing on the 'mental elevator' as it activated. And Amen to the Kallen fanservice. Where was she hiding those things the first 18 eps I hardly even noticed she had breasts till 19's bounty.
She's had them during the shower scene at like episode 3 or 4? Anyways I think what RZ meant by black geass, is the Black Knightmare named Gawain or something?
RyougaZell
Tue, 03-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Yeah... I was like too shocked after 2 great episodes on a row and said geass instead of Knightmare... oops!
I need this series on dvd...
PS: I you guys find good Kallen wallpapers XD... I have 3 of them at home... well... actually two... because 2 out of the 3 have the same image in different styles...
DON'T READ BELOW HERE IF YOU WILL WAIT FOR GG's SUB
EDIT:
Oh yeah... damn Suzaku... he pinned a naked Kallen to the wet floor...
What's with Shirley's expression? Does she remember?
The emperor's scene was mis-translated by your-mom according to what I readed in a blog. He talked about Shineizel (or whatever you spell it...) and not a Lamperouge
animus
Tue, 03-06-2007, 10:09 AM
Yeah... I was like too shocked after 2 great episodes on a row and said geass instead of Knightmare... oops!
I need this series on dvd...
PS: I you guys find good Kallen wallpapers XD... I have 3 of them at home... well... actually two... because 2 out of the 3 have the same image in different styles...
DON'T READ BELOW HERE IF YOU WILL WAIT FOR GG's SUB
EDIT:
Oh yeah... damn Suzaku... he pinned a naked Kallen to the wet floor...
What's with Shirley's expression? Does she remember?
The emperor's scene was mis-translated by your-mom according to what I readed in a blog. He talked about Shineizel (or whatever you spell it...) and not a Lamperouge
Maybe it's a letter as stated earlier by someone in this thread that indicated that Lelouch was Zero.
Phoenix20578
Tue, 03-06-2007, 10:49 AM
WARNING! Skip if you desire to wait for GG and won't watch Your-Mom's release
Wow. That Geass symbol has to mean something, especially if you add it to the visions Lelouch had in episode one of the priests o_O
And yea, experimental Knightmares are complete rapage.
@RZ: Your not the only one who <3 Kallen.
animus
Tue, 03-06-2007, 12:38 PM
I wonder if there'll be a romantic relationship between Lelouch + any of the girls by the end of the series. Hopefully it'll be Kallen but i'd be happy if C.C. ever developed into that type of character.
RyougaZell
Tue, 03-06-2007, 01:20 PM
Many will root for CC definitely. But I think it won't happen, since it seems CC still has her own agenda and is using Lelouch. Although she softened after her called her by her name.
I hope Kallen, but looks difficult now. Because she idiolizes Zero, not Lelouch.
Shirley a big no thanks to her father's death and geass.
Zati
Wed, 03-07-2007, 05:05 PM
Great news, the second season has been officially confirmed!
From MT :
According to Moonphase and the April edition of Newtype Magazine, a second season of “Code Geass” has been formally announced — voice actors from the series have also shared their thoughts and comments on the upcoming expansion. In addition, there’s also to be a special broadcast of episodes 24 and 25 of the current season.
Mae
Wed, 03-07-2007, 09:22 PM
So the Geass is linked to mysterious artifacts scattered about the world, huh? And the Britannians are interested in them? Suspicious... So, who wants to bet the Emperor has a Geass?
Weird that Suzaku just blurted out his confession to Kallen. Seems somewhat of an unstable guy, although definitely capable. And was that the Geass working when he froze up during Zero's escape? I didn't see the red eye effect, but I don't know what else it could be. This could be a pretty big handicap to his career as a soldier if in every dangerous situation he is compelled to first save himself...
And CC was completely not intimidated by the Black Knights. And she has mind reading abilities now? We already know she's quite hard to kill. I wonder what she could do if pushed.
Lucifus
Wed, 03-07-2007, 09:23 PM
HellZ ya, great find Zati. Though not much of a surprise good to know.:cool:
eat_toast
Wed, 03-07-2007, 09:33 PM
I wonder what she could do if pushed.
Well, she fucked Suzaku over without even touching him, and she hands out mind powers like welfare checks so I think she probably doesn't need to worry about any of the humans.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 03-07-2007, 09:44 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!! I never thought the confirmation would come, I just kept hoping and hoping for a second season... AND NOW ITS HERE!!!
This just literally made my year. (better not be wrong information though)
My predictions since there will be a season 2, (and consequently more time to develop relationships)
C.C. and Lelouch will definitely have romantic feelings for each other, though they may not parade it around since the series just wont fit it. I mean, all the C.C. episodes are developed by making her closer to Lelouch, and so many hints are given that she is starting to have feelings for him, just that she is afraid to "make the same mistake" (probably because of the Mao thing). But Im thinking that issue should be over because Mao is dead, and Lelouch promised that he will not end up like him in their new contract.
Also, Lelouch only made (with an expressed intention to keep) 2 promises so far, which is with Nunally and C.C. And so far, he seems to be doing a good job of keeping them, well except for the fact that he still doesnt kill Suzaku. This just goes to show how he actually cares for C.C., at least much more than Kallen.
He really didnt have to make that contract, but he willingly did so, leading C.C. to question his motives (to comfort her, pity, or attachment), all of which point to the fact that Lelouch does not view C.C. as a mere tool as he views almost everyone else. Im willing to bet its attachment though, judging by his looks when C.C. pretended to leave him for Mao.
In Kallen's case, she still would probably like Lelouch even after his identity is revealed, probably even more so since that would be confirmation that the guy underneath is a bishounen, and not some ohgi lookalike or an old man. The problem is, to Lelouch, Kallen is not much more than a pawn, and that makes their relationship almost impossible to develop. The series also never gave time to bring them closer together. Dammit, Kallen is closer to Suzaku now than Lelouch.
Shirley is no longer a factor, at least on the relationships side, for as long as geass is irreversible, she will only serve to complicate the situation, not advance it.
question - is there any information on when the 2nd season will be out?
Also, does Lelouchs order to live towards Suzaku a lasting one? I get the feeling it was directed for that situation alone, though Geass rules are hardly as specified as Death note.
Deadfire
Thu, 03-08-2007, 01:30 PM
GG Code Geass 18 (http://tsukitenshin.net/gg/%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_18_%5BD599E264%5D.mkv.torrent)
BananaFob
Thu, 03-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Spoilers: (What I think)
The background of when the King/Lord of Britannia looked like one of those Greek-myth type of places...he's definately the biggest mastermind of the operation here, since he might have the Geass powers (that CC might have gave him). We can also all assume that he's trying to take over the world so he can activate these Mental Elevators for something...
From what Euphie said, this means that Cornelia probably didn't kill Lelouche's mother because she was an idol to her. I have a strong feeling the King probably killed Lelouche's mother.
Can anyone confirm if CC was talking to herself? For what we know, she might have telepathy powers, and that she might be affiliated with the King (so he could find the mental elevators for CC). It would make sense, because the military captured CC, and are trying to look for it back. Maybe all that CC wants is to go home with her Geass friends? I don't know...
I also have a feeling that Uranium that Lloyd and Nina talked about will play a big role in those Gawins...
What bothered me the most about the episode was Lelouche's piloting skills. I understand how he would be able to pilot a Knightmare, but a Gawin? He even knew what buttons to press and how to fly.
I wonder what's going to happen to Suzaku. Second offense of treason should be a bigger punishment.
As for the romance part, I support Lelouche and CC. Suzaku would go well with either Kallen, Cecile, or Eupie. I hope Euphie doesn't have any feelings for Lelouche, considering they're both half-siblings.
I liked this part the most:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/xSharinganx/vlcsnap-174053.png
Schneizel should have fun with this statement.
END OF SPOILER
Anyway, I'd recommend watching the Your-Mom episodes for now, although there was something that wasn't quite right around 19:13-19:22 in episode 19.
Deadfire
Thu, 03-08-2007, 10:00 PM
Well It looks like Shinsen-Subs is going to try to catch up releasing 3 eps today (rather 2 days ago, but noone noticed)
[SHS]Code Geass 8 (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Code_Geass_-_08_%5B1360F22F%5D.avi.torrent)
[SHS]Code Geass 9 (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Code_Geass_-_09_%5B6437A9C3%5D.avi.torrent)
[SHS]Code Geass 10 (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Code_Geass_-_10_%5B0739FFF6%5D.avi.torrent)
Darknodin
Thu, 03-08-2007, 10:51 PM
Spoilers: (What I think)
The background of when the King/Lord of Britannia looked like one of those Greek-myth type of places...he's definately the biggest mastermind of the operation here, since he might have the Geass powers (that CC might have gave him). We can also all assume that he's trying to take over the world so he can activate these Mental Elevators for something...
From what Euphie said, this means that Cornelia probably didn't kill Lelouche's mother because she was an idol to her. I have a strong feeling the King probably killed Lelouche's mother.
Can anyone confirm if CC was talking to herself? For what we know, she might have telepathy powers, and that she might be affiliated with the King (so he could find the mental elevators for CC). It would make sense, because the military captured CC, and are trying to look for it back. Maybe all that CC wants is to go home with her Geass friends? I don't know...
I also have a feeling that Uranium that Lloyd and Nina talked about will play a big role in those Gawins...
What bothered me the most about the episode was Lelouche's piloting skills. I understand how he would be able to pilot a Knightmare, but a Gawin? He even knew what buttons to press and how to fly.
I wonder what's going to happen to Suzaku. Second offense of treason should be a bigger punishment.
As for the romance part, I support Lelouche and CC. Suzaku would go well with either Kallen, Cecile, or Eupie. I hope Euphie doesn't have any feelings for Lelouche, considering they're both half-siblings.
I liked this part the most:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/xSharinganx/vlcsnap-174053.png
Schneizel should have fun with this statement.
END OF SPOILER
Anyway, I'd recommend watching the Your-Mom episodes for now, although there was something that wasn't quite right around 19:13-19:22 in episode 19.
those weren't spoilers... those were your thoughts. btw gg is up to episode 18 now... and yea, the uranium is puzzling to me too. the earl guy is also shady.
oyabun
Fri, 03-09-2007, 11:41 AM
gg needs to keep their game on because yourmom is here! :D fast subbing, i heard they had some wrong translation.
Deadfire
Fri, 03-09-2007, 12:20 PM
gg needs to keep their game on because yourmom is here! :D fast subbing, i heard they had some wrong translation.
Wrong translation, encode issues, Timing is off, and well... I think their raw is a lower quality as well...
This is why I don't watch them..
Yukimura
Fri, 03-09-2007, 01:33 PM
those weren't spoilers... those were your thoughts. btw gg is up to episode 18 now... and yea, the uranium is puzzling to me too. the earl guy is also shady.
Code Geass is up to 19, just because Your-Mom is an inferior group doesn't mean their subs don't exist.
Church
Fri, 03-09-2007, 11:52 PM
I think the reason nuclear power isn't as prevelant in CG universe is most likely because there was no need for it. We know WWI probably happened, but maybe WWII or an equivalently large scale war never occured for a race to complete a nuclear weapon. Not to mention they seem to have an aboundance of substitute energy source, sakuradite.
RyougaZell
Sat, 03-10-2007, 01:39 AM
Prepare for massive nosebleeds...
Code Geass Picture Book 3.25 by GG (http://lesbianocracy.com:54321/torrents/3667336e253d42ac45fa42b1489ad641a0f990a1.torrent)
Yukimura
Sat, 03-10-2007, 03:45 AM
Man that class president sure knows how to have a good time. And these little vignettes introduce very interesting back story. If the Ashford family used to develop Knightmares it might be another reason why Lloyd wanted to marry Milly (besides the obvious reason that people would stop disrupting his work by asking him if he'd gotten himself a wife yet).
Lucifus
Sat, 03-10-2007, 12:56 PM
Code Geass 20 - Your-Mom fansubs (http://fourzerofour.us/t/cg20)
DLing
RyougaZell
Sat, 03-10-2007, 02:08 PM
Do not read if you wish to wait for GG's Ep 20 release
This episode was so-so after the previous 2 great episodes. Things were predictable, like Euphemia telling Suzaku her feelings (and breaking Nina in the process? I hope). Zero arriving at battle against those fake Japanese...
What I liked was that Kallen believes she can not return, yet is unaware that Suzaku hasn't returned either (right?). Shirley knows once more who is Zero, but is mad at herself for not remembering.
The most interesting part was that when Euphemia told Suzaku to live... Zero's order reactivated. WTH? Permanent order?
Death13a
Sat, 03-10-2007, 03:53 PM
The most interesting part was that when Euphemia told Suzaku to live... Zero's order reactivated. WTH? Permanent order?
Zero didn't specified time frame and ordered Survive. It same as ordering Mao to "shut up"; no time frame at which point to finish. It also can be shown that Lelouch's geass becomes more powerfull.
Lucifus
Sat, 03-10-2007, 04:00 PM
OmG. These last three episodes have been like cream my pants holy fing shyt amazing!
I'm like so in love with C.C.:D :cool:
Suzaku and Euphemia. Guess that leaves Kallen/C.C for Lelouch. Lelouch's Gawin totally pwnZ everything.:D
It was so awesome seeing C.C. own everything with Gawin and Lelouch sitting like a king in the back chilling. B)
Phoenix20578
Sat, 03-10-2007, 04:13 PM
Suzaku and Euphemia. Guess that leaves Kallen/C.C for Lelouch. Lelouch's Gawin totally pwnZ everything.:D
Im sorry, but Kallen pwns C.C.
Speaking of Kallen pwnage, I really need some pics and/or renders of Guren MK. II If anyone can help, I would be grateful.
animus
Sat, 03-10-2007, 04:16 PM
I liked it, I felt it was kinda cheesy and I was getting Gundam Seed flashbacks of Asuran + Kira.
Board of Command
Sat, 03-10-2007, 04:41 PM
CC is a whore.
But I like her (not because she's a whore).
Lucifus
Sat, 03-10-2007, 05:00 PM
Dont you make me take out my pimp stick and whack you with it! Hows C.C. a whoreZ?! >.>
Board of Command
Sat, 03-10-2007, 06:09 PM
CC is totally a whore. Can't you see it??
Lucifus
Sat, 03-10-2007, 06:37 PM
Whacks the Board of Command with his PiMP stick. O noeZ you didn't. Give me proof! C.C. is no whore! If anythingZ Kallen is a whore. =P:rolleyes:
masamuneehs
Sat, 03-10-2007, 06:40 PM
well, i'm sticking with the gg fansubs, so I just saw episode 18. I like the new animation for the OP, glad that Orange is going to be making a comeback.
Lloyd and the Student Council president getting married, good lord. I think he's due to become a larger player, especially if he's figured out what Lelouch has Nina doing for him. I like how he was the first to support Euphemia's decision of knighting Suzaku. (The second man who clapped, the military guy with the scar, who is he again?)
Diethard is one of the more interesting characters in this show. I don't know if you could call him either "good" or "bad". I have one word though: "overzealous". When he was describing his admiration of Zero and how he wanted to be the one to personally record his major impact on history, one line stood out that troubled me: "There is nothing more emotionally moving than this." The man who speaks about recording history should have no business in making such a recording a personally satisfying experience. For if he starts pursuing it for his satisfaction, he'll start seeking to write history. Big difference between faithfully documenting and constructively authoring.
Kallen jumping into the sand pit... Bitch you must be smokin' rocks! Didn't you hear them say your mech would get disabled if you tried that? I honestly thought better of her.
Speaking of stupid bitches, how about Euphemia rushing out into the middle of a battle in that crappy Knightmare to save her love interest? Worse than Cagalli in GSD... It makes perfect sense for Suzaku to sacrifice himself if it means getting Zero. These pink haired, soft-hearted, idealistic anime women, they are like locusts laying waste to all that they find.
It was a nice touch, Lelouch using his knowledge about Suzaku's murderous past. Rub some salt on that wound! Now he's got to get past that rubbery one he has for Suzaku and accept the fact he has to kill his "friend"
Yukimura
Sat, 03-10-2007, 10:36 PM
God damnit Lelouch, why would you save stupid Suzaku!!!!! He(Zero/OotBK) better get something really good out of the underground press for helping out, since the chance to capture the Lancelot and/or kill Suzaku shouldn't have been ignored unless the gains are to be massive.
And as to the Suzaku/Euphie love affair, I am even more disgusted than I was with the Kira/Lacus affair. At least there Lacus was right in telling him to fight for what he believed (which was that protecting his friends and defending the defenseless was a good thing). Euphie is saying the same thing, but in this case Suzaku should be hating himself because he's WRONG!
@BoC & Lucifus, neither are whores yet, though KAllen is further down the whore path, as she'd very likely give it up to Zero wearing a blindfold if he requested it. (Not that that ought to make her a whore, but some might not agree with me)
Board of Command
Sat, 03-10-2007, 11:13 PM
Kallen might be more desperate but CC has way more experience ;)
Lucifus
Sun, 03-11-2007, 12:44 AM
Lucifus shoves his PiMP stick all the way up BoC where the sun don't shine. Where is your evidence? C.C. is the shytZ.:cool:
Dark Dragon
Sun, 03-11-2007, 03:34 AM
Speaking of stupid bitches, how about Euphemia rushing out into the middle of a battle in that crappy Knightmare to save her love interest? Worse than Cagalli in GSD... It makes perfect sense for Suzaku to sacrifice himself if it means getting Zero. These pink haired, soft-hearted, idealistic anime women, they are like locusts laying waste to all that they find.
I don't see anything wrong with wanting to save the person you love. Would it be better if they just stay back and watch the person they love blow up and die without lifting a finger?
Sacrificing yourself for the well being of many is all nice and good but in the end you are still dying for a bunch of peoples you don't really know or care for, commendable? yes, stupid? quite possibly.
And as to the Suzaku/Euphie love affair, I am even more disgusted than I was with the Kira/Lacus affair. At least there Lacus was right in telling him to fight for what he believed (which was that protecting his friends and defending the defenseless was a good thing). Euphie is saying the same thing, but in this case Suzaku should be hating himself because he's WRONG!
Everything suzaku has done up until now has fit his personality perfectly. Suzaku was willing to kill his own father because his dad was stubborn and insist on "defend till death" after it was apparent that japan had lost the war, he was willing to sacrifice his dad in order to save the life of many peoples. Suzaku is indeed very stupid for killing his own father but it was because he was kind and did not want to see many people die from the action of one man, it came down to a choice between his father or the peoples and he chose the peoples. I don't see how he is wrong and why should he be hating himself?
He join Britainia military in order establish a connection between britainians and japaneses, rather then start a full blown rebelion suzaku believe that it is better for the 2 side to learn to live together and for such a significant change to happen it will have to start from the inside.
Lelouch only care about his sister and getting revenge, yes i realize he want to construct the "ideal" world but that is only because he wishes for his sister to live in such a world. Lelouch uses peoples that put their faith in him as stepping stone for his goals. He killed his half brother who really had nothing to do with his mother death (heck euphie and cornelia conversation reveal that clovis respect lelouch and see him as a rival). Lelouch is also responsible for the death of many innocent peoples (Shirley's Father for example). Yagami Light started out with good intentions of only killing criminals but that eventually change to anyone that oppose him, Lelouch however thinks of his soldiers as chess pieces from the start (in the 2nd episode, the only thing he said was "damn useless terrorist" when his troops was being destroy by Lancelot). I personally like Lelouch and thinks that if he achieve his goal the world could become a better place but the methods he is using to achieve that goal is quite cruel.
Everon
Sun, 03-11-2007, 05:30 AM
Lelouch only care about his sister and getting revenge, yes i realize he want to construct the "ideal" world but that is only because he wishes for his sister to live in such a world. Lelouch uses peoples that put their faith in him as stepping stone for his goals. He killed his half brother who really had nothing to do with his mother death (heck euphie and cornelia conversation reveal that clovis respect lelouch and see him as a rival). Lelouch is also responsible for the death of many innocent peoples (Shirley's Father for example). Yagami Light started out with good intentions of only killing criminals but that eventually change to anyone that oppose him, Lelouch however thinks of his soldiers as chess pieces from the start (in the 2nd episode, the only thing he said was "damn useless terrorist" when his troops was being destroy by Lancelot). I personally like Lelouch and thinks that if he achieve his goal the world could become a better place but the methods he is using to achieve that goal is quite cruel.
spoiler alert for anyone who's sticking with GG translations
Lelouch doesn't just care about revenge. Its important to him, yes I agree, but he does care a lot about the people around him. Various times he's risked his bigger goals to save those around him. In the end, he's just one person - and things one way or another are going to come crashing down on him. With the most recent episode 20, his sister is stuck in the hospital and surprisingly Lelouch isn't beside his sister's side. Even with super powers he can't save everyone.
Board of Command
Sun, 03-11-2007, 09:48 AM
Lucifus shoves his PiMP stick all the way up BoC where the sun don't shine. Where is your evidence? C.C. is the shytZ.:cool:
Evidence? CC has been around for a long long time. She was there during WWII (?). The armies consist of many men who are probably desperate for some action. Go figure.
Dark Dragon
Sun, 03-11-2007, 09:55 AM
I should've said those that are close to him instead of just sister. I'm not trying to say that Lelouch is an evil person (because he's not), i just have a problem with the way he treats his soldiers who put their lives in his hand. His methods is questionable (even though they produce desired result) and directly involve many civilians. Suzaku method is slower, produce less result but at the same time the casualty is significantly less compare to Lelouch rebellion, it's kinda hard to say who is right or wrong.
animus
Sun, 03-11-2007, 06:59 PM
Their goals are different if you think about it. Lelouch is for the total liberation of Japan from Brittania which in turn leads to peace atleast in his views. Suzaku is however to join the army, stop all rebellion and produce peace in turn as a result through domination.
shinta|hikari
Sun, 03-11-2007, 08:57 PM
Suzaku is not as nice as you made him seem. Yes he believes he is right, but unfortunately, he isnt. Lelouchs method might be killing people, but in the long run, it will save more. Suzakus method is not supposed to be effective, well unless he included making a princess his love slave and using her influence to change britannia in his plans. Without that wild card, he would have absolutely no influence in politics (where it matters) whatsoever.
Its not really a matter of which method kills less, since Suzakus method will not work in the first place, so it cannot be up for comparison with the more realistic and calculated approach Lelouch has adopted.
EDIT - C.C. is no whore. Just because she was around for a long time doesnt make her one. The logic doesnt follow. Evidence I would give for the con position would be her actions and personality, and the fact that she said in episode 18 that it has been a while since someone actualy talked to her disrespectfully. That implies she doesnt take shit from anyone, and with her powers and mad skillz, she wouldnt have to. She also doesnt seem to be the type to be playing around, since she has the weight of her mission (whatever it is) on her shoulders. If she was, she and lelouch would have been screwing around a while ago.
Board of Command
Sun, 03-11-2007, 09:10 PM
She whored herself by secretly living with Lelouch.
Lucifus
Sun, 03-11-2007, 09:43 PM
Omg. Shinta. We need to get Deadfire in to burn this damned board down. C.C. is no whore! Thats the gayest evidence ever.
oyabun
Mon, 03-12-2007, 05:41 AM
I think the true whore is the one who lost her memory, what is her name again? LOL
" She whored herself by secretly living with Lelouch. " makes no sense.
RyougaZell
Mon, 03-12-2007, 09:16 AM
Ok... last pages have been painful to read... I prefer Kallen... but CC is no whore... so... can we please discuss the series once again?
Death13a
Mon, 03-12-2007, 11:48 AM
GG episode 19 (http://tsukitenshin.net/gg/%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_19_%5BE878BC2B%5D.mkv.torrent)
Ryllharu
Mon, 03-12-2007, 06:33 PM
Just caught up.
Episode 19:
Overall, I found this episode somewhat uneventful, but it was a great episode for character development. I enjoyed the uncomfortable-at-first reunion of Lelouch and Euphie, and it developed into a really odd atmosphere around them, as if there had never been any falling out, and Lelouch hadn't killed Clovis. Strange as it felt, Euphie would be the type of person who would be happier to see her (older?) half-brother than hate him for killing one of her other siblings.
Kallen and Suzaku...that was pretty much exactly what I expected would happen if they ever found out about each other (since Kallen already knew about him). He just acts too nice around everyone, the eternal placater.
What I thought was the most interesting was that Cornelia really liked and admired Lulu and Nunnaly's mother, and had been investigating her wrongful death. Despite the fact that Euphie is clearly coddled and sheltered, Cornelia would have undoubtedly told the sister she loves so much the truth about that (since we can safely assume Cornelia liked Lulu's mother from a pretty young age).
Stop reading if you only watch gg's releases.
Episode 20:
I wasn't really fond of this episode, Lulu and Suzaku fighting side-by-side came off really cheesy to me. Maybe it's just me.
At least Nina got beat down by security though. And her little confession only came off to Euphie that she loves someone else. She didn't even give what Nina said that much thought!
What I did like was Llyod's response to seeing the Hadron Cannon completed. He seemed really disappointed (in himself) and then pretty angry. Raksharta was really calm about losing the Float system, and disgusted she completed the Hardon Cannon based off his work. A technological arms race between geniuses, the makings for an excellent and amusing side story.
shinta|hikari
Mon, 03-12-2007, 09:28 PM
Dont read if you want to wait for gg and all that crap
I personally thought that the team operation between Lelouch and Suzaku was fairly decent. I probably liked it because of the background insert song that played during their rampage. What pissed me off and made the whole thing go cheesy is Euphies comment about the two of them fighting together, partly because I hate her, and partly because her reaction was overshadowed by the comments of the two geniuses the moment before.
I agree with Ryll regarding Lloyds response. That was probably the more interesting part of the episode.
Back to C.C., I know its too soon to tell, but at least judging from what we have seen so far, how good of a pilot is she? Even having lived a long time doesnt make her an ace, since knightmares are supposedly a new development, and she couldnt have had a lot of experience with one. I also believe that talent and reflexes are key in piloting, not only experience. That being said, I wonder how she could be ranked. Also. how exactly are the controls divided between C.C. and Lelouch?
Lucifus - What is with the sudden C.C. fanboyism? Im supposed to be the C.C. fanboy. <stares with jealousy at the really cool C.C. sigs> Been one ever since she appeared out of that tank in episode 1. Great job BTW.
RyougaZell
Tue, 03-13-2007, 12:07 AM
If Code Geass was a harem anime...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI2gBXfLQvM
Edit:
Edited out examples of Harem anime because some people got offended :rolleyes:
seriously... a story about one guy and lots of girls, with the story only revolving around them, however good the story is, its harem. period.
Dark Dragon
Tue, 03-13-2007, 12:40 AM
If Code Geass was a harem anime... (Kanon, To Heart, Love Hina, etc...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI2gBXfLQvM
i wouldn't be surprise if they made something like that after season 2 (fumoffu anyone?).
Yukimura
Tue, 03-13-2007, 01:43 AM
Lol @RZ: I'm surprised it took this long for someone to post a link to that. It was very well done, and if it's not something official that was released as a joke with a DVD or something than I'm 100 times more impressed with whoever did it. Very funny.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 03-13-2007, 03:54 AM
Wow, that rocks. Im pretty sure it was just fan made though, since all the visuals are either scans or clips. To be honest though, I wouldnt rate a code geass gone fumoffu too highly, since the comedy in code geass is of a different nature (more serious and situational rather than slapstick). I would still watch something like that though.
Dark Dragon
Tue, 03-13-2007, 03:59 AM
well it doesn't have to be comedy, fumoffu just took FMP mostly serious tone and turn it into a great comedy. Code Geass could be a decent romance/harem anime (with pizzahut) if done correctly.
animus
Tue, 03-13-2007, 07:00 AM
The comedy amount in the first season of Full Metal Panic is MUCH MUCH higher than it is in Code Geass.
RyougaZell
Tue, 03-13-2007, 09:16 AM
Lol @RZ: I'm surprised it took this long for someone to post a link to that. It was very well done, and if it's not something official that was released as a joke with a DVD or something than I'm 100 times more impressed with whoever did it. Very funny.
LOL.
I just saw it yesterday, so I added it as soon as it was over.
Never did watch pass ep 1 of FMP... therefore, didn't see Fumoffu either.
Kraco
Tue, 03-13-2007, 09:57 AM
If Code Geass was a harem anime...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI2gBXfLQvM
Heh. That was pretty funny indeed. And well made like has been said already.
Never did watch pass ep 1 of FMP... therefore, didn't see Fumoffu either.
Ho... FMP is among my TOP5 anime, seriously. But I guess we all have our preferences.
animus
Tue, 03-13-2007, 10:00 AM
Fumoffu is a whole different entity than FMP itself, and it's amazing. I can't recall the last time I laughed so hard watching something. Bonta-kunnnnnn
RyougaZell
Tue, 03-13-2007, 10:46 AM
Heh. That was pretty funny indeed. And well made like has been said already.
Ho... FMP is among my TOP5 anime, seriously. But I guess we all have our preferences.
Well... I didn't see it mainly because at that time my HDD was only of 4.5GB and did not had a cd-burner.
Now... I find a pain to find old series to download and then watch.
Anyways...
I already downloaded that Code Geass video from youtube. Later I'll convert it to avi, mp4 or whatever... so I can keep it for when I burn Code Geass to dvd.. Lolz
Lucifus
Tue, 03-13-2007, 12:39 PM
Wow. That was awesome. Very impressed with the creators and I seriously wouldn't mind watching that at all.:rolleyes:
orion4096
Tue, 03-13-2007, 11:19 PM
There is a (more easily) downloadable version at:
http://stage6.divx.com/members/193123/videos/1121324
Illrenmazou
Wed, 03-14-2007, 06:06 AM
Episode 19 By GG (http://tsukitenshin.net/gg/%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_19_%5BE878BC2B%5D.mkv.torrent)
Deadfire
Thu, 03-15-2007, 12:54 AM
Episode 19 By GG (http://tsukitenshin.net/gg/%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_19_%5BE878BC2B%5D.mkv.torrent)
This has been posted already :p
to bad it's not EP 20..
masamuneehs
Thu, 03-15-2007, 03:19 AM
episode 19 thoughts:
Euphie knew since the Hotel? Now she's even more stupid and selfish in my eyes. Letting a major terrorist run around just because he's your cousin is selfish as hell, and alot of soldiers and innocent collaterals are dying because she doesn't want to be the one to bring him down. How she hasn't resigned her post yet is also mind-boggling. Then again, that's what happens when you allow ancestry as a basis for assigning seats in public office...
Don't get me wrong, I actually really liked all the scenes with Euphie and Lelouch. They were sorta funny, but still wistful and showed alot about the two of them. I just think she's a retarded, naive, idealistic Lacus.
Will Suzaku get Kallen expelled from the university? I can't imagine she can go back now... Cover is blown to hell... All the stuff between them gave me Gundam Seed flashbacks like woah. God her tits are magnificent!
Thought Elevators. Finally some rationale behind Britannia's invasions. I couldn't figure out who the guy is (the one who flashed on the screen for about a split second before the floor collapsed under Lelouch, Euphier, Kallen and Suzaku. Looked too small to be Clovis... but he was definitely dressed up like Britannian royalty.
speaking of, this Schneizer guy (lol at the name) is a pretty big player. He was crushing on Lloyd's sidekick something fierce. Also seems to be quite down to Earth and in touch with his emotions. Good first impression of him. Why didn't Lelouch kill him, I wonder? Not enough time?
I call deus ex machina bullshit on Zero and Kallen escaping. Euphie and Suzaku are clearly out of harm's way about two seconds after the General tells his men not to shoot. I understand they prioritized protecting Euphie and that Kallen kicked some major ass, but there were just too many holes. Nobody is in those Knightmares we saw at the excavation just a minute before the roof fell in. No one guards the awesome, frickin flying, Knightmare. No one guns them down as they make an escape. Kallen doesn't get a scratch from the fight or Zero firing that crazy cannon. I know, I know, I should just let it go. But part of what makes this show great is that usually it takes some diabolical plot or slick strategy for Zero to get by, not just your typical anime hero favoritism.
Finally, the most important thing revealed in episode 19: Lelouch used his Geass on Suzaku! And, wow, I am disappointed in him. You get one shot with the Geass, and he commands his sworn enemy, the wrench in all his plans, to "Live"... Live? Looks like I was right, Lelouch's got a hardon for Suzaku something fierce. Giving special treatment to your childhood friend, placing their lives over everything you've fought for so far, possibly over your own life. Hah! All the good strategies in the world can't make up for such shortcomings of will power...
Couldn't he have made it so he couldn't use a Knightmare anymore? I don't care why he didn't want to use it on Suzaku. I don't even care that he tried to protect Suzaku's life. But to pass up an opportunity like that...
The only bright spot in that whole Geassed Suzaku thing is that it looks like he won't be as good in battle any more. He completely froze up during the gunfight, and even if he didn't have the Geass eyes, he was almost certainly under it. Nothing else explains it.
If you Geass someone and tell them to "Live!" what does that exactly make them do? Will Suzaku always be so useless in battle? Or will he still be in asset so long as his life isn't on the line? To what extent will he live "above all else"? Would a person under such a Geass avoid fatty foods and automobiles in order to make their life as long as possible? Where do you draw the line? I can see that becoming a continuity problem.
edit - screenshotted the guy who appears as the floor collapses. (probably caused it himself). Still no clue who he is..
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4571/snapshot20070315035836mn2.jpg
Kraco
Thu, 03-15-2007, 04:00 AM
Euphie knew since the Hotel? Now she's even more stupid and selfish in my eyes. Letting a major terrorist run around just because he's your cousin is selfish as hell, and alot of soldiers and innocent collaterals are dying because she doesn't want to be the one to bring him down.
Maybe she just felt like it could be Lelouch, but didn't really know. And certainly had no proof. She seems like a person who wouldn't use the power of her social status just to accuse somebody with no clear evidence.
I call deus ex machina bullshit on Zero and Kallen escaping. Euphie and Suzaku are clearly out of harm's way about two seconds after the General tells his men not to shoot.
Yeah. That has to be one of the weakest parts of this show so far. It's true the Britons certainly didn't expect Lelouch and the others just to drop down when they messed with the artifact, and in that sense it makes sense they weren't actively guarding the nightmare (which was used to activate the artifact, or something, wasn't it?). Stil, like you said, there was plenty of time to secure it once they realised Lelouch was right there.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 03-15-2007, 05:16 AM
I think the very idea of that stupid stupid stupid flying robot is stupid. I wouldve been happy with the knightmares just staying on ground. This development is actually scaring me into thinking the quality of the show might go down the drain if it doesnt recover soon. The whole point of code geass is strategy over power level bullshit. Now, all of a sudden Lelouch gets an overpowered mech that can fly. I really hope they handle this carefully, or else it might become a gundam seed mech battle fest.
I have always liked the scenes in code geass without the mechs, especially the Mao arc, which is my favorite. (C.C. was in it, Lelouch was damn cool, and there was a psychopath, what else could I wish for?)
I kind of guessed Lelouch was gonna end up using the Geass on Suzaku in such a wasteful manner. Otherwise, the story would end there. I do agree that it is a strategic failure on Lelouchs part, but I give him plus points on being less like Light in death note, and more likeable too. Anyone who actually has a bestfriend (since he has no other real friends, Suzaku takes the cake) should be able to at least understand him a bit.
BananaFob
Thu, 03-15-2007, 07:45 AM
he's your cousin is selfish as hell
Half-brother. Their fathers are the same.
You get one shot with the Geass, and he commands his sworn enemy, the wrench in all his plans, to "Live"... Live?
If you remember the scene correctly, Suzaku had a gun pointed at Lelouche, while they were inside the cockpit. Suzaku was going to kill Zero, and die along with him (kind of like a kamikaze-technique). However, Lelouche told him to survive, so that Suzaku wouldn't die along with Zero, Suzaku escaped. By telling Suzaku to survive, Lelouche was able to live longer.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 03-15-2007, 09:28 AM
Well, if Lelouch had wished it, he could have just ordered Suzaku to escape and then kill himself or forget about all his memories or whatever. He gave him that order mainly because of his concern for Suzakus well being, since he was so eager to die and all. Of course he considered that it will also save his life, because it wouldnt make sense for him to get himself killed over nothing.
I think that order just emphasizes how serious Lelouch was when he said he didnt want to use the Geass on Suzaku at all, reflecting his sincerity in their friendship. He was considering Suzaku as Nunallys knight after all, a choice that shows complete trust.
masamuneehs
Thu, 03-15-2007, 10:04 AM
Of course he considered that it will also save his life, because it wouldnt make sense for him to get himself killed over nothing.
I think that order just emphasizes how serious Lelouch was when he said he didnt want to use the Geass on Suzaku at all, reflecting his sincerity in their friendship. He was considering Suzaku as Nunallys knight after all, a choice that shows complete trust.
I think you're right on the second point, but I'm still saying that's Lelouch's number one weakness right now.
As for the "he had to tell him to live to escape the attack"... Where's the logic in that? Suzaku could have just blown his friggin head off and THEN ran to escape! Like I said above, it's very vague how Suzaku will respond to the Geass order to live. Now, if I'm a soldier in Japan, and the leader of the group I'm fighting against, risking my life daily to defeat, is right in front of me with my gun pointed at him and my number one priority is to secure my own life, what do you think I'm going to do? Kill him of course! Sure sure sure, "there wasn't enough time". Or "the Geass command to live doesn't work like that". I don't think it would have taken a significant amount more time to kill Zero and it would certainly not violate the Geass command. Hell, it'd be following it.
I mean, Suzaku had the time to flap his gums and talk back to the military while he was escaping. Where in the Geass order to live does it tell him to explain himself to others? Hell, where in Suzaku's mind does it not click that publicly announcing insubordination like that might cost him his life? But eliminating the number one threat to your life isn't in the command to "live"? Can anyone seriously think this out and not see the problem?
No, no I just think the creators had to bend to alot of plot convienence/necessity restrictions in this episode. Suzaku probably is the kind to tell others why he's acting how he is in such situation, and the Geass order is obviously very crude and poorly acted upon by common human intellect. But, for the record, i still say it's plot convienence.
was still a good episode.
Munsu
Thu, 03-15-2007, 12:00 PM
20 by gg:
http://tsukitenshin.net/gg/[gg]_Code_Geass_20_[7C487265].mkv.torrent
Knives122
Thu, 03-15-2007, 03:07 PM
Hmmmm, the guy who sings the insert song sounds like the same person who did like all the Scryed songs..interesting.
Narasho
Thu, 03-15-2007, 06:40 PM
Hmmmm, the guy who sings the insert song sounds like the same person who did like all the Scryed songs..interesting.
Scryed, like Code Geass, is a Sunrise production. So I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same guy.
RyougaZell
Fri, 03-16-2007, 01:19 AM
Oh Heck... Nina (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8954/1173809954780do4.jpg)
Bad bad news...
Code Geass will be aired until ep 23, finishing this march 29.
It is still undecided if eps 24 and 25 will be released as DVD only releases, or in Tv. Both options have no date. Season 2 is confirmed on the same official blog entry.
Source: http://geass.at.webry.info/200703/article_3.html
Kraco
Fri, 03-16-2007, 02:36 AM
It would be slightly strange if they are going to continue with season 2, yet would finish season 1 only on DVD. There are surely series that are finished with a few or more ovas released after the last aired episode, but so far I haven't seen a series, or at least I'm not aware of seeing one, that would have ovas integral to the story in the middle of it.
Or perhaps I just don't remember... I guess it could happen.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 03-16-2007, 04:55 AM
They want more money dammit. I hope it doesnt happen, the DVD release I mean. Its really plain stupid with a season 2 coming out, and will only serve to piss off many fans.
Deadfire
Fri, 03-16-2007, 10:17 AM
Well lets go over 19,
It was bull, that the machine that had so much tech, and was needed so bad for what ever they were doing....just flied right away...with the person that is bring them down.The fan service I admit was nice, however like most fan service unneeded. I really don't get how the 4 of them got there, however I'm going to pin it on it being...an Anime.
On 20,
Did I just see C.C. piloting that thing with lulu? That was very interesting. It possibly has something to do with what that machine was for... The other thing is why Zero decided to attack them. Didn't he at first want the Chinese help? I mean that was a fair bit of fire-power that they had on that island. Why didn't Zero want to use it? And the Suzaku and whats-her-name thing I felt rushed. I mean how many times have they really met each other and talked? All we have ever really seen is Suzaku blowing up shit and getting blown up himself. There was only one time in memory that they really had a time to just the two of them. However before the fanboys and girls attack me yes I know it was going to happen anyway, better soon then later.
Lucifus
Fri, 03-16-2007, 10:39 AM
However before the fanboys and girls attack me yes I know it was going to happen anyway, better soon then later.
? Most of us hate Euphemia and Suzuka to the core. :rolleyes: And it did feel rushed, and I'm glad, cant stand watching em....
I really don't get how the 4 of them got there, however I'm going to pin it on it being...an Anime.
Yeps....Had the same question when I started watching the ep. How the hell did they end up on an island?
Narasho
Fri, 03-16-2007, 10:42 AM
Bad bad news...
Code Geass will be aired until ep 23, finishing this march 29.
It is still undecided if eps 24 and 25 will be released as DVD only releases, or in Tv. Both options have no date. Season 2 is confirmed on the same official blog entry.
This seems like good news to me. Season 2 is confirmed, and even if the final 2 episods of Season 1 are released only on DVD, they will still be subbed by someone, it just might take a little bit longer.
Plus, as stated previously, it doesn't make any sense for them to release the last 2 episodes of the season on DVD only and then start season 2.
Yukimura
Fri, 03-16-2007, 10:55 AM
@DF & Lucifus: I believe the party line is that they ended up on the island b/c the hadron cannon literally blew them off the first one (while it shouldn't have really done much of anything unless they've got more quarks than the sun pumping out of that thing).
This news about the last to eps doesn't make much sense to me. Is the show not as popular in Japan as it is within fansub community? Withholding episodes seems like a waste of advertising money, though the company that makes the eps won't see that $ anyway, which could explain why they want to cut a DVD deal to get more profit.
RyougaZell
Fri, 03-16-2007, 12:19 PM
The thing is... eps 24 & 25 WERE going to be released on DVD as the final episodes. Like it has happened before with other series, like Ah Megami Sama or Kashimashi. Thanks to this ep 25 and 25 NEVER had a television schedule. With the announcement of Season 2 they don't know what to do with this episodes now, since they no longer want to release them on DVD... yet since they don't have a tv slot to air them...
THATS the problem. It is not something decided days ago, but since before the series started airing.
Kraco
Fri, 03-16-2007, 01:22 PM
They could use them as the first and second episodes of the second season. Or an extra long first episode. Sure, it might not be editing wise that splendid, perhaps, but they would automatically get an airing slot.
RyougaZell
Fri, 03-16-2007, 01:28 PM
If we are lucky season 2 will be aired in autumn... if not until next year. So that would be even worst. It its released on dvd it would be released in summer.
I hope they find a free slot on tv soon though.
masamuneehs
Fri, 03-16-2007, 03:12 PM
well 20 is probably my least favorite episode so far, mostly because it was so Euphie and Nina intensive.
I thought Suzaku was pretty good. (i'm one of the few who still likes him). Each time he talks more and more about it, I think he's progressing beyond the patricide and becoming a reasonably rational person. His response to Euphie's completely out of place request was actually the most understandable thing in the episode. His explanation of his feelings for her make sense and weren't too mushy. It certainly is rushed between them, but mostly on her part. I thought his response was quite tempered.
Euphie, on the other hand, is the epitome of relationship-obsessed women in anime. "All I want is to see people smile" and her interrupting a battle to command Suzaku to love her... Commanding someone to love her... Just about every line she had, outside of her 'talk' with Clovis, made no sense.
Well, looks like Suzaku's Geass command is only a very basic one that doesn't take account of anything except immediate factors. It let him run out of energy, but not self-destruct...
I'm still not decided on Zero's aiding Suzaku against the Chinese. I think it was just a way to keep Suzaku alive (for the show's creators). I think it's strange to see Lelouch take the high and mighty route and fight against a potential ally. Even if they weren't really representative of Japan, those forces could have helped him. And he had sent C.C. to gauge China's interest earlier on. Lelouch seems to be very different from earlier in the series. He used to be more ruthless and deceitful. Now he's saving his buddy's life and talking up a storm about the legitimate right to govern.
what's the word for when a person (female or male) acts only based on her own personal feelings and emotions? That word, or expression, describes Euphie.
lol @ that pic RZ
shinta|hikari
Fri, 03-16-2007, 06:47 PM
Zero didnt really change. I think he was like that all along, its just that he didnt know that Suzaku was the enemy pilot. Suzaku as he said was his first friend, and it seems he values him more than even he realizes.
Aiding Suzaku in battle wasnt really that bad of a move since their enemy wasnt really much of a force to reckon with. They wouldnt have made a good ally, and it would have been risky to keep so many uncontrolled factors around (as seen in how Zero made allies with all the elite and useful in the show, and killed off all the less useful ones).
I honestly dont want Suzaku fighting Lelouch anymore, since it seems to be so hard for Lelouch to do so, while Suzaku just keeps enjoying his ignorance of the enemy's identity. Though it is supposed to be Lelouchs advantage, his being soft on Suzaku has proven it the opposite. I agree about Suzaku being Lelouchs greatest weakness next to Nunally, and though this episode made Suzaku less hateable, this fact just made up for that and more.
EDIT - And oh yeah, Euphie is the plague of stupidity that has infected code geass and must be rid of immediately. She is even worst than Suzaku, since she is brain dead and a fucking naive idealist, and to top it off, she LIKES Suzaku *damn slut*. I like NIna more than her right now. I like CLOVIS more than her right now, and he only showed up for 2 episodes.
Lucifus
Fri, 03-16-2007, 09:07 PM
And oh yeah, Euphie is the plague of stupidity that has infected code geass and must be rid of immediately. She is even worst than Suzaku, since she is brain dead and a fucking naive idealist, and to top it off, she LIKES Suzaku *damn slut*. I like NIna more than her right now. I like CLOVIS more than her right now, and he only showed up for 2 episodes.
Preach Shinta. 100% agreement. Someone needs to just have her assasinated.....>.<
Yukimura
Sat, 03-17-2007, 01:16 AM
Lol, it's refreshing to see how the reactions to Euphie' are so similar to the reactions to Lacus were back in the days of SEED. However, in my opinion Euphie has her beat in every was as an annoying pink haired girl. Yes Euphie is also an idealistic, self-indulgent, love struck klutz who's in a position of power and authority that she's not at all suited for, but she's royalty, so she should know better. Lacus was a pop star with a famous dad and had little to know political skills so at least I can give her the benefit of ignorance and just hate her for that. Euphie has been raised around all this crap and still clings to her nonsense notions. even if her sister tried to shield her from it, that's no excuse. Euphie should know better but doesn't, which makes her that much more irritating and deserving of an assassination attempt (which will probably be stopped by Suzaku in the Lancelot, who will look on calmly as the would be assassins commit suicide after he owns them all).
shinta|hikari
Sat, 03-17-2007, 01:57 AM
I like Lacus much better than Euphie. She looks and acts better, and cooler. Euphie is liked a preschool child given a nuclear weapon. Talk about a power trip. I hate her stupid voice too.
Everon
Sat, 03-17-2007, 04:10 AM
It was a lot harder for me to swallow popstar turned underground nonviolent protestor than Euphie. Lacus always seemed more naive
At least Euphie seems to understand her limitations as a figurehead. She has admited that she doesn't have talent and charisma like her brother and sister. I don't think she really has the power to start negotiating peace either, especially when she is backed by a facist country.
Yukimura
Sat, 03-17-2007, 04:46 AM
[Your-Mom] Code Geass - 21 (http://fourzerofour.us/t/cg21)
Wow, after seeing that I think I know how Chairmen Zala and Durandal felt. All those careful plots and machinations brought low by a single bright-eyed pink-haired girl with delusions of grandeur.
Euphie once again manages to throw the plot into an unexpected and interesting twist, what will become of this new plan of hers?
masamuneehs
Sat, 03-17-2007, 06:40 AM
It was a lot harder for me to swallow popstar turned underground nonviolent protestor than Euphie. Lacus always seemed more naive
the other reason why Euphie isn't as annoying is that she's actually aware that she's "useless" and that her notions aren't fitting of someone in her post. And she doesn't act like everyone should follow her half baked notions of justice. So, and this boggles even my mind, I have to say that Euphie isn't quite as bad as Lacus... not yet at least...
However, like mentioned above, she really should know better because she was raised in a massive hereditary royal family, not just the daughter of politicians who could choose her area of interest, politics, music or otherwise.
on the other hand, Euphie hasn't tried to pull the "nobody needs to die in war" idealistic crap that I hate oh so much about recent Gundams. I totally think she will, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
christ, i thought Your-Mom wasn't going to sub once GG got back on track? I never liked those guys, always struck me as less talented Dattebayo-types who didn't have the reputation/bandwith to warrant pulling YHBT stunts... Are those turds actually doing a decent job nowadays?
Ryllharu
Sat, 03-17-2007, 08:52 AM
One more note in defense of Euphie, like masamuneehs said, in episode 20, she realized exactly how worthless she is. She fully realized that she was being coddled and protected by everyone. Cornelia has been doing it to her for even longer, but since she came of age, Cornelia and all the others have been telling her "It's okay, we'll take care of it, you don't need to do anything."
There's a big difference between pacifists who don't do anything but whine, pacifists who know they can't do anything, and pacifists who can act on it by mediating. I believe Euphie will turn into the third type, now that she's fully realized how sheltered she was being.
Sure she's still annoying, but if she started throwing her power around, only Cornelia, her brothers, and her father could really question her. That would make her a lot more interesting.
Narasho
Sat, 03-17-2007, 01:15 PM
Ok, funniest part of the series so far was when CC said "pizza" in this ep. That was hillarious.
Darknodin
Sat, 03-17-2007, 02:14 PM
Ok, funniest part of the series so far was when CC said "pizza" in this ep. That was hillarious.
Hell yea... I kinda felt her pain when the dough fell on the tree! she really looked like her whole plan since the beginning of the series was to have this giant pizza made. and the pink haired girl destroyed it all!
anyone think that the maid will have to be in on Zero's identity? unless zero himself won't know who she is?
Lucifus
Sat, 03-17-2007, 02:28 PM
Omg rofl at C.C. reaction to the loss of Pizza. xD!!
So loved that part. AnywayZ, I was so ready for Lelouch to Geass the bitch or for someone to snipe her. Christ! >.>
Church
Sat, 03-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Wait... Lelouch's mom was an ace pilot...?
How many ways can things go wrong? It seems like everything is going against Lelouch now. And I'll never have guess the maid was working with Diethart, unfortunately Lelouch already used geass on her.
I guess Suzaku will have the Geass forever, seeing how the other girl was still carving the wall... It'll be like SEED mode all over again...
Darknodin
Sat, 03-17-2007, 05:15 PM
Wait... Lelouch's mom was an ace pilot...?
How many ways can things go wrong? It seems like everything is going against Lelouch now. And I'll never have guess the maid was working with Diethart, unfortunately Lelouch already used geass on her.
I guess Suzaku will have the Geass forever, seeing how the other girl was still carving the wall... It'll be like SEED mode all over again...
true... i never thought of it that way. this possibly makes Suzaku kinda powerful although unreliable.
and something i hadn't said before... Orange is BACK!
Church
Sat, 03-17-2007, 06:11 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Suzaku will have some moment like when he would have to save Euphie, but the Geass prevents it...
animus
Sat, 03-17-2007, 06:44 PM
Man did I love Lelouch's reaction at the end. It was so full of hate and angst. It was total bliss, then I saw Euphemia's smug little mug and got pissed. To relieve that anger, I backtracked to when Nina got trampled. Ahhh, that was amazing.
Yukimura
Sat, 03-17-2007, 07:12 PM
Lol I was so shocked at how much shit hit the fan I'd forgotten about C.C.'s pizza reaction. Priceless!
animus
Sat, 03-17-2007, 07:26 PM
Haha, yea me too. I was sitting here, giving the same T_T reaction.
BananaFob
Sun, 03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Oh Heck... Nina (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8954/1173809954780do4.jpg)
I didn't understand this joke, what was it about?
masamuneehs
Sun, 03-18-2007, 01:33 PM
think about it banana. think back to that scene where Nina was all alone in the school late at night, and she was, well, enjoying the table... The joke of the comic is that she's ranking the different kind of tables based on how intrusive they'd be.
...i still think it's a fucked up way to masturbate. Does anyone know of girls actually doing that? and it's gross as hell because it's Nina.
eat_toast
Sun, 03-18-2007, 08:29 PM
Euphemia needs to die. Suzaku should do it, right before being shot by Nina, who then throws herself off a bridge.
Okay then, back on topic, don't read if you wait for GG.
Euphemia really, really needs to die. In fact it would have been 100 percent better if the pizza dough from hell had landed on her instead. Or if by some freak accident, Nina goes batshit insane during the mad rush and kills Euphemia out of some sort of wierd love triangle jealousy. Doesn't matter how, or who does it.
Maybe some of you don't hate her, heck, I didn't until about 5 minutes ago. Before then she was just the pink haired girl who loves to be in everyone's business. But now, now she's done and fucked with Lelouche's plan.
He's got enough on his plate, with Cornelia and the other older brother (forgot his name, call him Blondie) whippin' out some sort of death squad, not to mention the fact that everyone and their brother seems to be finding out who he and Kallen are. Plus, Orange-kun?! Hilarity will ensue.
T.T ....... pizza.
Church
Sun, 03-18-2007, 08:39 PM
I think it's a universally accepted fact most pink-haired peace-loving air-headed royalty needs to die...
If the pizza dough had killed her, this anime would be epic and probably win the title of most amusing/anti-climatic death you've never seen coming...
Ryllharu
Sun, 03-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Anyone else find it funny that Jeremiah was floating in a vat of orange liquid?
I can't possibly see any way that wasn't intentional.
animus
Sun, 03-18-2007, 08:49 PM
The Britannian Royal Family has some potential-incest affairs. Euphie + Lelouch in the past, and Schneizel + Cornelia. Though the latter can seem to be just royal-family sized flattery, it seems like it isn't. Don't tell me I'm the only person who felt it.
shinta|hikari
Mon, 03-19-2007, 12:14 AM
Agreed about Cornelia and Schniezel. Euphie and Lelouch was probably just a childhood crush, just like how even Nunally wanted to be her brothers wife.
Pizza death for Euphie is a grand idea.
Narasho
Mon, 03-19-2007, 04:22 PM
When I first saw the guy in the vat I thought it was Clovis. I must not have looked carefully enough.
itadakimasu
Wed, 03-21-2007, 06:34 PM
Hello... i have downloaded two sets of episodes (1-13) by 2 different sub groups and both are in french... wtf... can somebody help me out, it looks like cool series but i dont read french. *sigh*
masamuneehs
Wed, 03-21-2007, 06:57 PM
Hello... i have downloaded two sets of episodes (1-13) by 2 different sub groups and both are in french... wtf... can somebody help me out, it looks like cool series but i dont read french. *sigh*
GG Fansubs Torrent Tracker (http://lesbianocracy.com:54321/index.html)
and, for your convienence, Code Geass__Episodes 1-12__ggfansubs (http://lesbianocracy.com:54321/torrents/203b83ae070ad9f7092348174cc96d38d2cebbbf.torrent)
Death13a
Wed, 03-21-2007, 08:02 PM
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before downloading any subs check groups at anidb.net
itadakimasu
Thu, 03-22-2007, 11:27 AM
masamuneehs, thanks. I will have to dl when i get home tonight in another....... 10 1/2 hours... wow... this going to be a long day.
Illrenmazou
Fri, 03-23-2007, 03:08 AM
Oh shi~! Ep 22 will blow you away. I can't wait for the subs.
BananaFob
Fri, 03-23-2007, 07:34 PM
I didn't like this episode too much, probably because it had Nina, Ougi, and Viletta in this episode. Well, obviously, everybody hates Nina, that racist bitch. I don't like Ougi that much, considering I feel that he might betray the Order of the Black Knights by revealing Zero's identity. And Viletta just annoys me, really badly with her innocence. I wonder if she'll use Refrain.
And yes, Euphie just annoyed me a lot this episode. I wonder how Lelouche will handle her. Highly doubt it, but I hope Lelouche unlocks greater Geass power by using his power more.
EDIT: Episode 22 was just pure GOLD.
Darknodin
Sat, 03-24-2007, 12:32 AM
Oh shi~! Ep 22 will blow you away. I can't wait for the subs.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN.... (mild spoilers following i guess, although this ep is so surprising in the end that i don't think you'll be able to guess what's coming from that)
I downloaded the crappy 4D sub (seriously, half the sub is translated... but i've been watching enough to meet the guy who did this halfway... i thank him tho since its a single, or two people's effort).... and WOW, seriously i think this is the BEST episode so far. Geass is NOT Gundam Seed at all right now...and Euphie is slightly different from Lacus... slightly.
I personally think that Rakshata and Diethart are evil... and that the emperor wants to destroy the world for some reason... and seeing that annoying prince completely shocked was PRICELESS!
And I like the fact that Zero did take advantage of the situation. also, Kururugi is fucked... seriously fucked... hell, the whole of Japan is fucked, and, with the emperor's reaction, the whole freaking world is fucked...
I just want to say... Euphemia is my favourite character right now :D!!
end mild spoilers
Seriously... best ep so far in my opinion... throws the show in another direction (or maybe, back to what it was?)
Yukimura
Sat, 03-24-2007, 02:17 AM
OMG OMG OMG OMG The letters O, M, and G were clearly invented for crap like this. Who could have possibly seen this coming? That was an awesome episode, crappy subs be damned.
I'm guessing Euphie has lost a lot of status already by losing her Crown bid, but she's still a member of the royal family and will be trying to kill Japanese people for the rest of who knows how long. Even if they take her away, she might start trying to use indirect means like paying people off and such in order to get them to kill Japanese people. Props to Lelouch though for having the brass balls to make lemonade out of his own half sister. And yes, the Gundam SEED parallels are now just similarities to me, this twist pretty much changes everything.
masamuneehs
Sat, 03-24-2007, 06:24 AM
words do not express my disatisfaction with the "4st" fansubbed episode of episode 22.
i stopped watching after 4 minutes, simply because i'd rather not watch an awesome episode of Geass than watch it half-translated, half guessed-at. That was probably the worst fansub i've seen in a very very long time.
animus
Sat, 03-24-2007, 08:34 AM
WOWOW, that was amazing. Definetely a twist from hell, that I never would've saw coming.
Yenkaz
Sat, 03-24-2007, 08:45 AM
Holy crap that was unexpected, and definiatly the best episode in a long time.
This had to happen sooner or later, and now the Elevenese.. I mean Japanese public is so going to do everything in their power to get rid of the Britannian occupation force... I'm seeing an unavoidable massacre on both the Britannian citizens and the Ele.. Japanese sides.
Insanely genocidal Euphemia with a machine gun plowing down eleve.. damnit, JAPANESE people FTW!
hitokiriender
Sat, 03-24-2007, 09:39 AM
http://fourzerofour.us/tor/cg22.torrent - Your-Mom Episode 22
Inazuma
Sat, 03-24-2007, 10:41 AM
That's what I'm talking about !
Code Geass just made one step toward perfection.
23 - 30 Eps : Where Code Geass caught up to Cowboy bebop and became a legend ?
Everon
Sat, 03-24-2007, 10:41 AM
Bleh, thats way too twisted. Its terrible that the only way Lelouch can "fix" this situation is by killing Euphiemia. If only he commanded her to Kiss Suzaku on the cheek!
I can't imagine whats going to happen next. Probably something utterly depressing.
How many episodes are left? I heard that they've announced a second season.
eat_toast
Sat, 03-24-2007, 12:13 PM
Holy Damn......... I think this wins the 2007 "Things you don't say casually when you have the power to control peoples minds" Award.
As for how it's going to turn out.... half of me says "YES DIE EUPHEMIA DIEEEE" and the other half says "Sucks to be Lelouche." Especially after seeing him give the order to have her taken out :'(
I'm beginning to think these writers are yanking stuff from greek tragedy. That, or M. Night.
Darknodin
Sat, 03-24-2007, 12:36 PM
Holy Damn......... I think this wins the 2007 "Things you don't say casually when you have the power to control peoples minds" Award.
As for how it's going to turn out.... half of me says "YES DIE EUPHEMIA DIEEEE" and the other half says "Sucks to be Lelouche." Especially after seeing him give the order to have her taken out :'(
I'm beginning to think these writers are yanking stuff from greek tragedy. That, or M. Night.
you want euphie to die? c'mon, the best part of that ep was the "Kill all japanese" in her extremely cheery voice!
by the way i just realized... the elevenese might be spared and only the people which are officially japanese will die?
Sandldan
Sat, 03-24-2007, 12:59 PM
by the way i just realized... the elevenese might be spared and only the people which are officially japanese will die?
Dont think there'll be much time to see that since the order of the black knights went in to end it all, hopefully. And there was a scene where the imperial knightmares broke out of the stadium charging forward towards the ones outside.
Quite a turn of events indeed in this episode. A bit curious what lelouch's geass will turn to if he will be able to overcome it or end up as Mao.
Did anyone else find a resemblance between Kon from bleach and the dead stuffed animal in one scene?
Dead kon? (http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8913/bscap0000gu6.jpg)
eat_toast
Sat, 03-24-2007, 01:03 PM
you want euphie to die? c'mon, the best part of that ep was the "Kill all japanese" in her extremely cheery voice!
While that was fairly amusing, there is no love lost between Euphemia and myself, mostly because of how she's just so f'ing annoying.
Also, lulz at the dead Kon doll.
Inazuma
Sat, 03-24-2007, 01:21 PM
Wait ..
Something is odd ...
Did Euphie actually resist the geass before going haywire ?
Sandldan
Sat, 03-24-2007, 01:27 PM
Something is odd ...
Did Euphie actually resist the geass before going haywire ?
It looks more like lelouch interrupted it before giving away any orders, or it could have been malfunctioning due to the "attack" he and C.C shared
animus
Sat, 03-24-2007, 02:08 PM
Euphie probably won't die, and I bet Lelouch is going to have some way of retracting his absolute order from Euphie, granting him entry into season 2 with better control/strength of his Geass, I'd assume.
Illrenmazou
Sat, 03-24-2007, 02:34 PM
I think its possible that Euphie may die in te hands of Suzaku.
Euphemianator wants to kill all japanese. Suzaku's "you must survive" geass is still on and he's japanese. They'll have and encounter then BAM! Result: Dead Euphie and a fucked up Suzaku.
Inazuma
Sat, 03-24-2007, 02:56 PM
Nope, it's smells like a Suzaku vs Cornelia fight
Lucifus
Sat, 03-24-2007, 06:38 PM
Counterstrike Style: Holy Shyt! (Echo)
My god, Code Geass so totally made my Top 5 Best Shows ever with that ep.
"Euphemianator" xD!!! Lmao.
So could never have seen this coming. I wonder how things are gonna turn out now.:cool:
Death13a
Sat, 03-24-2007, 06:58 PM
This is the first anime that i know made 90* turn in 2 minutes with cheerful voice.
mage
Sat, 03-24-2007, 07:37 PM
LOL @ Euphie: "Make Japan with me!"
RyougaZell
Sat, 03-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Holy Hell... awesome episode.
I believe the Geass got finally fucked (it was already hurting Lelouch and CC) when Suzaku touched CC.
Damn... actually I am a loss for words with this ep... awesome...
animus
Sat, 03-24-2007, 09:18 PM
It's all Suzaku's fault. Why does he have to touch everything? He brings the ruin for his people full-fledge now.
Darknodin
Sat, 03-24-2007, 09:38 PM
It's all Suzaku's fault. Why does he have to touch everything? He brings the ruin for his people full-fledge now.
haha. I think this may have something to do with the pizza. CC needs an awful lot of pizza to keep the geass in control for her subordinates... therefore it IS Suzaku's fault since he messed up the giant pizza dough!
eat_toast
Sat, 03-24-2007, 09:56 PM
haha. I think this may have something to do with the pizza. CC needs an awful lot of pizza to keep the geass in control for her subordinates... therefore it IS Suzaku's fault since he messed up the giant pizza dough!
Yes - the conspiracy is finally unveiled. Forget all of the international war/ oppression/ massacre of the Japanese people, this anime is really all about Pizza.
In the first episode we get a glimpse of C.C looking on as Lelouche and Kururugi climb haphazardly up cliffs (where are their parents? oh wait lol), seconds before the invasion begins. Coincidence? - or cover for the real takeover of Japan, by Pizza Hut! The contract for power? C.C just wants some fucking Domino's. The whole Geass-eye-power doodad is really the newest form of pizza-making system. And, the series was really supposed to end at ep. 18, but Kururugi had to mess up her plan for the Ultimate Cheesy Goodness (TM). Now C.C has decided to sacrifice the entirety of Japan to appease the Pizza gods.
Is this a *Pizza* anime? I think so.
Church
Sun, 03-25-2007, 12:55 AM
I think this is an appropriate poster (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4788/5a570bb32edaa602d3c0bc2al6.jpg)
Well... 22 was good... nice to see that there are many different factions and they all have different agenda's and methods. Sucks for Lelouch, but I guess he'll have to stop going to school, or get an eye-patch...
Mae
Sun, 03-25-2007, 01:43 AM
Daaamn.... Poor Euphie. Even if she survives this it's a rubber room for her now. I didn't really like her character, but this is a pretty awful fate. And god knows what will happen to Suzaku now. I'm even more convinced that CC and her geass powers are evil, and that the Emperor knows all about them.
As a side note, I was wondering if "Geass" isn't based on the word "geis" (I think that's how it's spelled, not really sure, google got me something but it could be an alternative spelling). A celtic word ( I think) meaning an unbreakable obligation. As in you have a geis put on you and you have to do what it says no matter what. Could refer to Lelouch's ability or his deal with CC. Anyways... looking forward to the next ep.
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