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Munsu
Wed, 10-04-2006, 05:06 PM
Episode one by Eclipse:
http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2001%20(h264)%20%5B41E1F59B%5D.mkv.torrent
http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2001%20(XviD)%20%5B935288A2%5D.avi.torrent

"The long war against Frost Republic scarred many places of the Empire; famine, plague, returned soldiers who become bandits… Worrying about these "war damages" resulting from the devastations of the nation and people`s minds, the Empire Army orgnaizes the 3rd section of Information Bureau known as "Pumpkin Scisors", and they assigned the section for the duty of recovery from the war damage.

Three years have passed since the truce so called "thin ice agreement". The 3rd section hasn`t accomplished their task, yet. Rather, they are absorbed in paper works, and without notice, people ridicule that it is an "Excuse Section" that suppress people`s complaint. However, they strive to achieve their tasks. One day, a man offers a help to them. It was a big guy who used to be a soldier. Dangling an iron lantern from his waist, he handles a heavy gun one-handed."

http://rikujyo3ka.com/
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6552
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4473

RyougaZell
Wed, 10-04-2006, 06:39 PM
Excellent.
I've been waiting to see this series since I saw the trailer on youtube.

Will download later tonight.

Board of Command
Wed, 10-04-2006, 07:54 PM
It's great to see another Eclipse project. I'll check it out because it sounds interesting, has a rather strange title, and because Eclipse is subbing it.

Ryllharu
Wed, 10-04-2006, 10:18 PM
I really like the premise of this series. We've been seeing a lot of shows that are about wars or result in wars and large-scale battles, but we don't often see post-war (or at least cease-fire) themed series. It also has a Eastern Europe post-WWII feel to it.

The "mysteriously strong ex-soldier" is a little overused, but the will-o-wisp Anti-Tank soldier is kinda original, and one who only uses a breach-loading pistol.

I like Alice as well, the overzealous, justice-driven heroine. In the very beginning, you could see she was severely disappointed there was a cease-fire.

Should be good, and the art style reminds me of Solty Rei (another Gonzo title I enjoyed).

mage
Thu, 10-05-2006, 12:12 AM
This seems like a rather below average series.. run of the mill characters, bad humor, but atleast that guy's weapon seems kind of cool :\

Kraco
Thu, 10-05-2006, 06:40 AM
It looked like a decent enough series to watch casually. I have to agree with mage to a certain extent: some things looked a bit cheap content wise, but I'm not really one to stare at such details too forcefully if the story is otherwise good.

I was also thinking the graphics looked somehow familiar, and perhaps it indeed was Solty Rei like Ryllharu said.

Munsu
Tue, 10-10-2006, 10:47 PM
Episode 2:
http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2002%20(h264)%20%5B8DDB4399%5D.mkv.torrent
http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2002%20(XviD)%20%5BA027E4BD%5D.avi.torrent

RyougaZell
Tue, 10-10-2006, 11:42 PM
Episode 2 was good, not as good as the first one, but it tends to happen.

A must-see on my autumn list.

Munsu
Wed, 10-11-2006, 03:21 AM
Just watched the first 2 episodes, I'm really liking it... we'll look forward to the rest.

Really like the facial expression of Oland when he turns on the blue lantern, he looks like a psycho.

Arcn3ss
Thu, 10-12-2006, 12:44 AM
Just watched the first 2 episodes, I'm really liking it... we'll look forward to the rest.

Really like the facial expression of Oland when he turns on the blue lantern, he looks like a psycho.


Indeed, blue lantern + Psycho face = teh win.

Alice reminds me of Saber from FSN. Probably due to the character look, and sense of justice she seems to live by.

Munsu
Tue, 10-17-2006, 12:32 PM
http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/[Eclipse]_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_01_(1024x576_h264)_[14FE0678].mkv.torrent

[Eclipse] Pumpkin Scissors - 01 (1024x576 h264) [14FE0678].mkv Details
Size: 232.92MiB | Date: 2006-10-17 16:22 GMT | Comment: The source is no true HD, but the encode turned out too nicely not to release it :) ... if you have the CPU, give it a try

Zati
Wed, 10-18-2006, 02:20 PM
Episode 3 by Eclipse

XviD Version

http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2003%20(XviD)%20%5B363B618F%5D.avi.torrent

h264 Version

http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2003%20(h264)%20%5B5E6F40E8%5D.mkv.torrent

RyougaZell
Wed, 10-18-2006, 02:55 PM
Thanks for the links.
I'll be sure to download this tonight at home.

Ryllharu
Wed, 10-18-2006, 03:47 PM
"Do commoners drink water?"

Alice has stolen my heart. She's an idealist among the nobles who takes great pride in her position and work, but she's still completely out of touch. She reacts like a child would when her relatives confront her, but she believes strongly enough in her ideals to eventually make it work out well.

Randel's speech and doctor analogies were very enlightened for a Suicide-soldier. A good speech too.

Kraco
Wed, 10-18-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah. Randel's speech was quite accurate and proper, and much needed, indeed. But that fellow has probably seen his own share of suffering, so he has some source from where to draw such thoughts.

Randel's gun is one strange weapon. I just can't figure out what manner of piece it is...

Munsu
Wed, 10-18-2006, 06:38 PM
This episode was boring to me, didn't really offer much to me. Yeah we saw some character development, but it could've been done in a more entertaining manner.

Church
Fri, 10-20-2006, 12:45 AM
Randel's gun is one strange weapon. I just can't figure out what manner of piece it is...

It is probably based off the MRI Lone Eagle. The Lone Eagle is a single shot, rotary breech pistol chambered for the high pressure NATO 7.62x51mm (yes, rifle rounds.)

The pistol in the anime differs in the breech action, using a break-open breech instead of a rotary breech, and it's obviously chambered for a much higher caliber round, probably something close to a 50 caliber, maybe even a 20mm.

Looking at the ammo, it seems there are two colors on the bullet, my best guess is it is a Sabot round. It uses a discarding shell to boost short range velocity dramatically, allowing it to have massive penetration power. The fact that he has to use it at point-blank range seems to comfirm this, as Sabots looses momemtum faster than normal ammunition due to its light weight.

That's my thought...

O yeah, the anime is pretty interesting.

complich8
Sun, 10-22-2006, 05:39 PM
military otaku much? :p

I'm wondering how many ways the show can come up with to make him light the lantern and/or square off with tanks... so far we're 3-0 for lantern-lighting and 2-1 for tanks.

Maybe there's some horrible side effects of the lantern that we haven't been told about yet, and he's going to be faced with a Chrno-crusade style conflict -- like, opening up the lantern and using full power might drain his lifespan, or have psychological repercussions or something... I dunno.

Either way, they've got to do more with the gimmick than just lay it out there, and I'm certainly curious where they're going with it.

Also, WTF sorta name is "pumpkin scissors" ... did they just randomly pick two nouns out of their English dictionaries and say "these go together!" ... or were they going for a halloween-type theme? Tim Burton style maybe?

Zati
Tue, 10-24-2006, 10:37 AM
Episode 2 & 3 High-Resolution Pumpkin Scissors Releases caught up!

1024x576 h264

Episode 2 (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_02_(1024x576_h264)_%5B0CAFB71F%5D.mkv.torrent)

Episode 3 (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_03_(1024x576_h264)_%5B7A6E7B30%5D.mkv.torrent)

Zati
Wed, 10-25-2006, 01:31 PM
Eclipse IRC channel topic says this is the "Best Pumpkin Scissors Episode Yet!"

Just released and it looks like it will be good!

XviD Version
Episode 4 - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_04_(XviD)_%5B99259C7D%5D.avi.torrent)

h264 Version
Episode 4 - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_04_(h264)_%5BC4A14123%5D.mkv.torrent)

RyougaZell
Wed, 10-25-2006, 02:48 PM
Also, WTF sorta name is "pumpkin scissors" ... did they just randomly pick two nouns out of their English dictionaries and say "these go together!" ... or were they going for a halloween-type theme? Tim Burton style maybe?

Well, for instance, in my case, the weird name was what first attracted me to this series.

I can't wait to see Alice in this costume as well

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b154/kickinarchive/wordpress/09_06/23_estrenofall/05.jpg

EDIT:
Although... now that I think about it maybe its just a royal dress and not a somewhat-battle-costume.... lol

complich8
Wed, 10-25-2006, 07:09 PM
so, ep 4 was pretty interesting. More info about the gun, the Viscount's tank, some more character development on the Corporal, a bit. Especially his background.

That was a pretty intense episode, especially towards the end of it... this series is definitely shaping up to be something interesting...

I wonder how long until someone develops helicopters -- the natural enemy of tanks :p.

Board of Command
Wed, 10-25-2006, 08:37 PM
Anyone else here who doesn't like the opening song? The tune is good but it just keeps repeating the same line over and over.

Ryllharu
Wed, 10-25-2006, 08:46 PM
I didn't like the opening song at first, found it really creepy actually. But it's started to grow on me. It's not that different from most of Yoko Takahashi's songs really. I kinda like it now.

This show is shaping up very nicely.

complich8
Thu, 10-26-2006, 12:51 AM
I like the first ... umm, 12 seconds of the song. Then she starts singing, and it really doesn't quite match that first 12 seconds, and the tempo/mood change feels a bit ... off to me.

I think the 4 "Gespenst Jager" instances in a 90 second op stands out as ... well ... sounding the same, so I could see that argument's validity. But my main problem with it is that the first 12 seconds should have been more elaborated, out to 2 or 3 times longer even. At least, that's what it feels like to me, I could use more of that creepy choral+techno-scratch layering in with a bit more complexity, then she can break into song later and make it overall better.

Least, that's my opinion :p.

Of course, if you really don't like it, what choice do you have? Bind a key to skip 1:30 forward in $(your_player) (or, if not supported, learn where about a 1:30 skip is) and make it a habit of just skipping it :p.

(... incidentally, the instrumental version of the op on the recently-released op single really highlights just how much the body of the song relies heavily on her vocals ... after that 12-second mark, there's almost nothing beyond rhythm until the 1:30 bridge).

Church
Thu, 10-26-2006, 01:18 AM
hmm, 13mm... I guess I was close .50 caliber is about 12.7mm. So it just relies on brute force rather than KE, kinetic energy, the math behind Sabot rounds.

I'm liking this series more and more now that we have some more background information.
This series reminds me very much of Full Metal Alchemist, in terms of the setting and the technology.

Kraco
Thu, 10-26-2006, 02:34 AM
13mm pistol... It really must take a giant like the corporal to use a monstrous pistol like that. 0.50 Barrett is reported to occasionally cause dislocated bones and ruptured retinae to the shooter. And it's a sturdy rifle. This 13mm pistol is, like the Colt dude pretty much said, not meant for every average man.

I have shot with a 12.7mm heavy machine gun, and it was sitting on a tripod held down by multiple sacks of sand to withstand the recoil...

RyougaZell
Thu, 10-26-2006, 08:47 AM
Episode 4 was awesome.
Machs finding out what the Corporal did before and their chief saying some info is better not known.

The 13mm bullets are overkill.

Zati
Wed, 11-01-2006, 02:44 PM
Halloween Pumpkin Scissors Special releases although its passed Halloween already.

Episode four for anyone that wants the highest quality version :
Episode 4 [h264 1024x576] - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_04_(1024x576_h264)_%5BF083BD10%5D.mkv.torrent)

Episode 5 [XviD] - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_05_(XviD)_%5B5B1C734F%5D.avi.torrent)
Episode 5 [h264] - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_05_(h264)_%5B829B360D%5D.mkv.torrent)
Episode 5 [h264 1024x576 Highest Quality!] - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_05_(1024x576_h264)_%5B4939576B%5D.mkv.torrent)

Everon
Thu, 11-02-2006, 01:42 AM
The whole glass bottle joke was a bit of a surprise. This series seems to be a little more scattered than I would like it to be, but its shaping up to be somewhat interesting.

Zati
Wed, 11-08-2006, 01:31 PM
More Pumpkin!

Episode 6 (XviD) - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_06_(XviD)_%5B835378A2%5D.avi.torrent)
Episode 6 (h264) - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_06_(h264)_%5B8D653057%5D.mkv.torrent)
Episode 6 (1024x576 h264) - Eclipse (http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BEclipse%5D_Pumpkin_Scissors_-_06_(1024x576_h264)_%5B4A6F2A6F%5D.mkv.torrent)

Munsu
Wed, 11-08-2006, 10:06 PM
This was another piece of shit episode.

Kraco
Thu, 11-09-2006, 02:05 AM
Yeah. I can't really praise this episode. It did nothing to any greater story, the plot was uninteresting, character interaction offered little (the child was a baby and thus far too young to be a real character). No action, let alone blue lanterns or tanks. In short, this episode could be skipped, and you would never notice you missed one episode, if not for the numbering.

Zati
Thu, 11-09-2006, 02:01 PM
Yeah not good episode at all I heard Mentar (one of the admins of Eclipse) say this episode was not in the manga and also next episode is not in the manga either and its a Alice side chapter. Looking forward to it returning to the manga storyline.

complich8
Fri, 11-10-2006, 12:06 AM
Agreed, there wasn't enough freaking out and shooting tanks. We didn't even get graphic cat-on-cat violence, or Mer-kun chomping someone's skull or anything!

I think the whole point of this episode was Alice making a really, really stupid face and totally failing at baby-care.

Zati
Thu, 11-16-2006, 05:36 PM
New episode!

Episode 7 (XviD) - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2007%20(XviD)%20%5b132F260F%5d.avi.torrent)
Episode 7 (1024x576 h264) - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2007%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b49E88F1D%5d.mkv.tor rent)

Mae
Sun, 11-19-2006, 12:59 PM
I decided to try the first few eps of this and Code Geass, and Pumpkin Scissors won out. Appealing characters, nice setting (mix of new tech into a more primitive feudal society and tensions it creates), plot still working up so we'll have to see. The visual style reminds me of FMA, especially the uniforms, so that's not bad.

I dunno, it just appeals to me. Might be the berserker, I've always like berserker characters.

Zati
Wed, 11-22-2006, 02:35 PM
Episode 8 is out but its Bot-release only right now, Eclipse BT is temporarily down.

Edit : Here are the torrents

Episode 8 (XviD) - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2008%20(XviD)%20%5bEF675E53%5d.avi.torrent)
Episode 8 (h264) - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2008%20(h264)%20%5b80C1073E%5d.mkv.torrent)
Episode 8 (1024x576 h264) - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2008%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b6B0467AB%5d.mkv.tor rent)

Kraco
Thu, 11-30-2006, 03:17 AM
Let's cut some more pumpkins...

Episode 9 xvid - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2009%20(XviD)%20%5bB83AD941%5d.avi.torrent)
Episode 9 h264 - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2009%20(h264)%20%5bE7F559E6%5d.mkv.torrent)
Episode 9 h265 (1024x576) - Eclipse (http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2009%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b5C40DA85%5d.mkv.tor rent)

Edit: Not a terribly worthwhile episode at all. I doubt one would notice any difference in the bigger picture even if this was skipped. Still, at least it wasn't totally boring. But certainly not enough 13mm rounds were shot...

Munsu
Thu, 12-07-2006, 02:20 AM
Episode 10:
http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2010%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b5D77D208%5d.mkv.tor rent

Yukimura
Fri, 12-08-2006, 01:23 AM
The required back story episode, nothing was really wrong with it, but on the other hand it wasn't particularly interesting b/c it wasn't anything different from most other back story episode. I was surprised that Machs was a top ranking academy student that got sent to PS for being to righteous. Also the idea behind the name was somewhat lame, but at least it does fit.

Kraco
Fri, 12-08-2006, 01:48 AM
Aye. I agree. What really worries me, though, is that the main plot of this series is getting thinner and thinner. We are already at episode 10, and it looks like they are just pushing it further away all the time with these episodes that taste like fillers.

Munsu
Wed, 12-13-2006, 05:41 PM
Episode 11:
http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2011%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b6967F593%5d.mkv.tor rent

Ryllharu
Wed, 12-13-2006, 06:17 PM
It feels like we're finally getting into a chunk of the main storyline now. I wonder what the creepy scientist lady is after with Orland. It's a two-parter, so we have to wait til next week. This eps was pretty much introductory for a continuous storyline.

Munsu
Wed, 12-13-2006, 06:21 PM
I don't think she's looking for him, rather she wants to hide his existance... at least his origin and background.

Yukimura
Thu, 12-14-2006, 03:44 AM
If Oreld is the one she was referring to when she talked about her 'subject' then I can't think of many plots that would make sense. Possibly she's trying to see what will happen when you pit an ATT against newer technologies like the auto loading tank. She (or her group) might be behind all these advanced weapons that Section 3 has been encountering.

Kraco
Thu, 12-14-2006, 04:05 AM
This was a good episode for a change. The main storyline moved forward nicely. Let's hope this trend will continue for the rest of the series.

Darknodin
Mon, 12-18-2006, 10:59 PM
I've watched 3-11 nearly back to back... and this is really an interesting series. not sure where this is going in terms of storyline but the war-torn country is well done (as far as i know...) and I guess its like Germany was after WWI. not having really lost the war... but not having won either. maybe this is why the setting is such.
one thing though... from the lady on the bridge episode... trench warfare is useless against tanks.

Kraco
Tue, 12-19-2006, 05:11 AM
one thing though... from the lady on the bridge episode... trench warfare is useless against tanks.

I think that statement is an oxymoron since tanks aren't trench warfare weapons. It isn't really trench warfare if only one side is attempting it and the other one is not but sends tanks. It's merely an entrenched defender and an attacker then.

complich8
Tue, 12-19-2006, 11:32 AM
I think what he's trying to point out is that historically, tanks and tank-supported infantry obseleted trench warfare very quickly.

Munsu
Wed, 12-20-2006, 11:10 PM
Episode 12:
http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2012%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b297EFC83%5d.mkv.tor rent


It's a great episode, watch it as soon as you can.

Darknodin
Sat, 12-23-2006, 06:47 PM
Wow... freaking good episode... i have a question... do the invisible 9 only include 901-ATT? or are there other divisions? and is Oreld the only one left... and what the hell was he doing at the beginning of the show (ep 1)?
Oh, and i bet a sister as the mystery figure with the fiancee

Mae
Sat, 12-23-2006, 07:28 PM
Yay for conspiracies! There aren't enough assassins with poisoned back teeth in anime. I'm glad that the series looks to be heading into the main story line. The background eps were nice enough, but I want to enjoy some political intrigue.

Munsu
Thu, 12-28-2006, 03:24 AM
13:
http://www.dreality.net/Deidryt/Torrents/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2013%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b83C3FF98%5d.mkv.tor rent

Munsu
Tue, 01-09-2007, 06:30 PM
Haven't seen 13 yet since it seed like a piece of shit episode, but here's 14:
http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2014%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5b2CAC01CA%5d.mkv.tor rent

Ryllharu
Tue, 01-09-2007, 07:22 PM
Eps 13 looked like a filler eps from the preview, but it actually had a lot of information on a neighboring country, and went into the depressed, still-destroyed outskirts of the city where law is generally ignored. It was a deeper eps than I thought it would be.

It was a hell of a lot more interesting than the snow episode, I thought that one was worthless.

EDIT: Looks like 14 is the first part of the main storyline. We learn that Orland's squad wasn't the only one of the Invisible 9 projects.

Munsu
Tue, 01-09-2007, 07:59 PM
Eps 13 looked like a filler eps from the preview, but it actually had a lot of information on a neighboring country, and went into the depressed, still-destroyed outskirts of the city where law is generally ignored. It was a deeper eps than I thought it would be.

It was a hell of a lot more interesting than the snow episode, I thought that one was worthless.

EDIT: Looks like 14 is the first part of the main storyline. We learn that Orland's squad wasn't the only one of the Invisible 9 projects.
Thanks, I guess I'll watch 13 followed by 14 now.

High Wind
Tue, 01-09-2007, 09:54 PM
Just watched 14.

Overall I felt that it was a somewhat uneventful episode besides the introduction of another Invisible 9 unit. HTT? Human Torch Trooper maybe? I was a bit disapointed that he didn't have a jetpack =P

I have the sudden urge to play some Metal Gear Solid 3 now.

Edit: @ Yukimaru below

I know. I was referring to the fact that we now know of another unit in addition to the ones we've already seen, not that this was the first time another Invisible 9 unit was shown. Sorry if I worded my post awkwardly. My english isn't exactly stellar.

Yukimura
Wed, 01-10-2007, 03:02 AM
We learned about another 9XX unit in the first episode. Those guys with the poison gas were from the 903-CTT unit (Chemical Tactics Troop)

complich8
Wed, 01-10-2007, 02:25 PM
Just watched 14.

Overall I felt that it was a somewhat uneventful episode besides the introduction of another Invisible 9 unit. HTT? Human Torch Trooper maybe? I was a bit disapointed that he didn't have a jetpack =P

I have the sudden urge to play some Metal Gear Solid 3 now.

MY SUIT!!!

Mae
Sun, 01-14-2007, 09:42 PM
That was reasonably creepy. The Darth Vader breathing thing is more commonly used now but is still effective. And the "Samui... samui..." thing too. I hope there's a decent fight scene with the flamethrower :cool:

Kraco
Wed, 01-17-2007, 08:57 AM
I think there are still a couple of pumpkins unscissored in the basement (or dungeons)...

Episode 15 HQ h264 - Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2015%20(1024x576%20h264)%20%5bCEB0B273%5d.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 15 h264 - Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2015%20(h264)%20%5b71DE24EF%5d.mkv.torrent)
Episode 15 xvid - Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bEclipse%5d%20Pumpkin%20Scissors%20-%2015%20(XviD)%20%5bAB4E40C2%5d.avi.torrent)

Ryllharu
Wed, 01-17-2007, 03:27 PM
The "pumpkin" and "scissor" analogies are starting to get a little heavy handed. Alice's use of it here was a bit of a stretch. I can honestly say I've never cut a pumpkin with scissors during halloween, it's messier and more dangerous.

Hmm, maybe it is a fairly appropriate analogy. If Section III used a real carving knife, they wouldn't be having so many problems.

Jokes aside, it looks like someone other than Orland is going to get into some serious action. Not so surprisingly, Alice.

I imagine they'll play up the scene where she opens the box she brought along quite dramatically, so for now I'll consider this a spoiler for the next episode. Alice PVC figurine (http://www.amiami.com/shop/ProductInfo/product_id/67985)

Kraco
Wed, 01-17-2007, 04:01 PM
I had no idea what she had just said once she closed her mouth after the speech. "A bit of a stretch" was very appropriately said.

A box? I guess I didn't pay enough attention. I thought it was an rpg launcher...

NeoBear
Wed, 01-17-2007, 05:01 PM
the fact that you can take off the dress is odd to me...but im still happy about it =/

Shadow Skill
Wed, 01-17-2007, 08:09 PM
I've used Scissors to carve a pumpkin before, no more dangerous than using a knife. :/

Kraco
Wed, 01-24-2007, 12:00 PM
Cavernously carved pumpkins are served in three variations:

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Munsu
Wed, 01-24-2007, 03:08 PM
What a great episode. Alice as the Slayer was awesome, and the member of the Silver Wheel seems like a very formidable enemy.

Next episode looks even better.


Sadly, at the moment this only looks like it'll be a 24 episode series. I really hope there's a second season in the making or something.

Kraco
Wed, 01-24-2007, 04:18 PM
There was much good in this episode, indeed. Unfortunately also something bad: The actions of the strike team. Unless they purposefully left the silver mask walk away, that part made no sense. And also they had a tank (or was it an APC) with them, so why didn't they use the 30mm, or so, gun to deal with the flame thrower dude? That made little sense. But fortunately that was the only weakness of this episode, while the rest was just as good as you said.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 01-25-2007, 03:26 AM
I think their mask's vision is so narrow that they just didnt notice the silver masked guy leaving.

Kidding aside, that scene is really strange, and lots of things were out of place. But Alice made up for that and more. I hope that the next episode shows more action than the recent ones, and I want some lantern berserk mode too.

Munsu
Tue, 01-30-2007, 05:16 PM
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Kraco
Tue, 01-30-2007, 05:46 PM
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Ryllharu
Tue, 01-30-2007, 08:02 PM
Nice footwork by Alice, I really liked her Cavalry blade skills. Watching what the 901 use when the run out of ammo (or lose their Door Knocker) is also very impressive. Bolt Cutters, with Orland's strength. I was wondering what those were when he pulled them out of his pocket before shoving them back in.

Also interesting to note how deeply entrenched the Silver Wheel is in all aspects of the Empire.

Looks like the next episode will be a comedy relief episode starring Stekkin, the nearly useless member. I love Kana Ueda though (Stekkin's voice actress).

shinta|hikari
Wed, 01-31-2007, 01:12 AM
Do you guys think there will be romance developing between Orland and Alice? Thats kinda what I get from the opening theme, but so far they havent really gotten really close.

Kraco
Wed, 01-31-2007, 03:31 AM
I guess that's what usually would happen, but I hope not this time. It wouldn't be very realistic. Alice belongs to some nearly royal family, as they often enough remind us, and Orland is practically nobody (which is also probably why he became a bearer of the blue lantern). I hope they will just remain friends who respect each other.

Kraco
Wed, 02-07-2007, 03:07 PM
I'm a little pumpkin
Orange and round.
Here is my stem,
There is the ground.
When I get all cut up,
Don't you shout!
Just open me up
And scoop me out!

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complich8
Wed, 02-07-2007, 10:28 PM
What a great set-up and delivery at 7:00-7:20 or so.

The first half of this episode is stupid. But a well-executed stupid... it manages to be cute, in its own slightly embarrassing way.

Second half was interesting and good, as a character-builder.

Outtro was ... umm ... downright fucking gold. Especially with the section-3 baritone accompaniment :p.

So saith complich8!

Munsu
Thu, 02-15-2007, 02:34 AM
What a great set-up and delivery at 7:00-7:20 or so.

The first half of this episode is stupid. But a well-executed stupid... it manages to be cute, in its own slightly embarrassing way.

Second half was interesting and good, as a character-builder.

Outtro was ... umm ... downright fucking gold. Especially with the section-3 baritone accompaniment :p.

So saith complich8!
Yeah, I agree with everything here... And now let's see this wedding that's talked about at the end of the episode.

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complich8
Thu, 02-15-2007, 03:36 AM
Schultz seems to almost sort of get it now, which is interesting. He almost seems like he could actually develop into a plausible rival given some time. Sadly, with only 6 episodes remaining, I don't think he's going to have the time, and I'm not optimistic about getting the whole story behind the story with the "silver wheel" crowd.

Still, I liked this episode as a whole. Good war relief, more reasonable character development, and a set-up for some potentially excellent action next week. I'd love to see Alice break out the "slayer" sword and kick some ass in her formalwear (except she'd need to change back into those boots).

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shinta|hikari
Thu, 02-15-2007, 04:51 AM
Finally, some references to a romantic relationship between orland and alice. I knew they would eventually reveal some sort of feeling between them, but they delivered it really well I think.

Ryllharu
Thu, 02-15-2007, 07:07 AM
I think an enormous chunk of the storyline was revealed during Alice's discussion with Leonir about her little brother (who we just heard about for the first time). Since Alice was the successor, anyone who married her would become the head of the family, one of the 13 families, and gain all the power that that titles holds. I've always thought the Leonir was a member of the Silver Wheel, even before the organization was ever named, and his confusion over Alice's opinion only added to my suspicions. I can almost see the Silver Wheel going after Alice's little brother to ensure that she remains head of the family. What better way for an evil organization to gain ultimate power but take over one of the most noble families?

It was nice to see that Schultz understands that Alice most enjoys using her political power and position to help the people, and deserve the title of "Noble." Alice sees herself as a warrior to protect the country and it's people, and at least one of her fiances understands that.

Her abusive sisters, as always, amusing.

Kraco
Thu, 02-15-2007, 07:30 AM
Finally, some references to a romantic relationship between orland and alice. I knew they would eventually reveal some sort of feeling between them, but they delivered it really well I think.
I still can't see anything romantic between those two. It just doesn't seem fitting. I think Alice is just an important person for Orland, but not really in a (mature) romantic way. More like an idol or angel who gave a meaning to Orland's life, and showed that despite being a soldier he can actually help people. During the war he was a mindless killing machine with the blue lantern, and I don't think he really likes that state and feeling.


I think an enormous chunk of the storyline was revealed during Alice's discussion with Leonir about her little brother (who we just heard about for the first time). Since Alice was the successor, anyone who married her would become the head of the family, one of the 13 families, and gain all the power that that titles holds. I've always thought the Leonir was a member of the Silver Wheel, even before the organization was ever named, and his confusion over Alice's opinion only added to my suspicions.
Yeah, I've been thinking about the same thing. However, I hope he's not simply after the noble name and position. While him being a villain would indeed be cool, I would prefer a humane villain and not some cliche machine. Maybe a villain who really fell in love with Alice.

Ryllharu
Thu, 02-15-2007, 08:48 AM
I think his original intentions may have been to simply take over the family for the Silver Wheel (assuming he is in fact, part of them), but especially after her words to him about why she still tries so hard, I think he may in fact be genuinely in love with her as well.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 02-15-2007, 09:10 PM
Like was mentioned in the episode, Orland probably needs Alice more, and feels more for her than just being in love, precisely because of what you mentioned above. It probably wont develop into anything convrete, since the series is probably going to be cut short, but at least they hinted on it, with Orlands reaction, and Alice turning to him before going to the ball.

Maybe not genuinely in love, but genuinely impressed. He is most probably evil anyway.

Mae
Sat, 02-17-2007, 07:43 PM
I kind of like the whole mutual trust and respect thing between Alice and Orland, and I don't really want them to turn it into a romantic thing. Not every relationship between and a man and a woman needs to be about that, and it's kind of nice to have a break from all the harem/romantic comedies out there. Alice saves Orland from being just another unemployed bum, and he fights for her, and does a decent job of it too. That's enough.

And yeah, Leonir is pretty obviously a bad guy. It's hard to tell exactly what he wants to get out of marrying Alice. If it's just the political power than he could certainly arrange some sort of "accident" for her little brother. But then again he might actually like her and wants to recruit her for his side. Or maybe both.

I'm actually kind of cheering for the blond dufus. He's a dufus, sure, but he seems to genuinely care for her and would probably not mind if she wanted to pursue her ideals and continue her work at the military.

Kraco
Wed, 02-21-2007, 06:02 PM
Evil guys steer the silver wheel.

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shinta|hikari
Wed, 02-21-2007, 10:13 PM
My romance theory finally has some solid evidence. (I told you so).

RyougaZell
Thu, 02-22-2007, 12:49 AM
I watched several eps together, so I hadn't commented before.
Thank god the 'new' ending was a one time only... is was horrible...

Anyway... I hope Machs or Oreld brought Alice's weapon for next ep.

Darknodin
Fri, 02-23-2007, 07:43 PM
My romance theory finally has some solid evidence. (I told you so).

true...

on another note, anyone else was laughing as hard as me at the marquis predicament?

Yukimura
Sat, 02-24-2007, 04:16 AM
I never noticed how buff Alice looks before now, I guess it comes from swinging that death blade around all the time but she's got some serious shoulders, very nice...and another reason she's one scary chick. I wonder what they Marquis will do in response, I'm guessing a goon shield or something along those lines.

Munsu
Wed, 02-28-2007, 09:20 AM
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Death13a
Wed, 02-28-2007, 12:52 PM
Nice episode but mostly was putting more gunpowder in the barrel. Now we need little more and a fuse and we are ready to sit on it and lit it up.

Kraco
Thu, 03-01-2007, 05:09 AM
I wish Orland hand't got hit in the head with the shovel a couple of episodes ago. Apparently something broke in his brain, turning him into a total chicken. It's painful to watch, remembering how he used to be a badass dude who walked alone to face tanks and automatic weapons. Now he can't do anything but run and whine. Like wtf...

Munsu
Thu, 03-01-2007, 09:25 AM
I wish Orland hand't got hit in the head with the shovel a couple of episodes ago. Apparently something broke in his brain, turning him into a total chicken. It's painful to watch, remembering how he used to be a badass dude who walked alone to face tanks and automatic weapons. Now he can't do anything but run and whine. Like wtf...
I agree, there's something going on and it's pissing me off... Hurry up and turn on the blue latern damn it. I have a feeling we might be getting a second season or something, I think this arc is going to extend a couple more episodes, and this arc surely doesn't involve the Silver Wheel.

Ryllharu
Thu, 03-01-2007, 12:14 PM
The problem is that the people he's trying to protect hate him and are trying to kill him. He's obligated to defend himself (and it's inbred into him through the lantern).

However, I thought they covered this during the Flamethrower arc, and the drill train episode, and the blizzard and bandits episode. He should be over defending himself from people he's trying to protect.

How far he's wussed out all of a sudden just seems really off, considering the situations he's already been in involving the common people.

Prediction though, the flail guy said threaten people with more primitive forms of pain, and it's more effective. Hmm, I wonder what kind of feeling the lantern gives off? The lowest base, the most primitive. The unrelenting, inevitable, basic threat of death I'll bet.

Yukimura
Fri, 03-02-2007, 12:33 AM
I don't know what's going on but the amount of cowardice demonstrated by Orlan(or Oreld, i get them mixed up) was mind boggling. He must know that he can't do anything without the lantern by now, regardless of whether he wants to or not. If he wants to keep being useful he needs to not be his normal self, because his normal self is a cowardly wimp searching for redemption...those types of people don't belong in combat situations.

Alice was looking on task, though she still seems to be acting a bit naive, thinking that fighting a duel will somehow appease the peasants. Little-Or's comments were very helpful, since I wasn't sure if they mob would buy it in their hearts or not, I'm guessing in the end Alice will win, and somehow calm the crowd down, but I'm hoping that somehow they go crazy and at least kill the sniveling guy.

Munsu
Tue, 03-06-2007, 05:32 PM
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RyougaZell
Wed, 03-07-2007, 09:20 AM
Good episode. A little better than previous. But I wish they stopped dragging this arc already... dunno if this is a 24 or 26 ep series... but I don't see Alice meeting the Silver Wheel at this rate...

Munsu
Wed, 03-07-2007, 09:26 AM
Good episode. A little better than previous. But I wish they stopped dragging this arc already... dunno if this is a 24 or 26 ep series... but I don't see Alice meeting the Silver Wheel at this rate...
And I really hope she doesn't... If that doesn't occur, that means that they are probably planning on a sequel or a second season. Think about it, if they would've really wanted to finish the story this season, they would've pitted Section 3 against the Silver Wheel by now and arrive at some sort of conclusion. Yet, the anime has shown no signs of rushing the story, not even in these final episodes, and it's apparently 24 episodes long... at least that was anidb shows.

RyougaZell
Wed, 03-07-2007, 12:43 PM
Well I do hope they do have plans for a 2nd season. At the rate the series advanced, they really need one. Several episodes on the middle were just plain painful... I haven't searched this series manga, but I guess it must not be that long so they dragged the series like this. I hope the final episode has some announcment like "season 2 next autumn" like Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle did on its time.

Death13a
Wed, 03-07-2007, 01:41 PM
At almost begining of show i found and i skimed through RAW Pumpkin Scissors manga.


And it little after the ball arc which as i understood was information about Silver Wheel and cliffhanger.

Darknodin
Wed, 03-07-2007, 10:52 PM
The pacing is actually really good if this lasts 50 eps.. Althought there were some slower eps than others... none were utterly useless..

animus
Mon, 03-12-2007, 09:29 AM
So far, I've only watched up to episode 6 and stopped cause I felt kinda bored. Does it get any better, better development of characters, etc? Is it worth it?

Kraco
Mon, 03-12-2007, 11:59 AM
I guess there isn't a clear answer to that question. There haven't been any remarkable moments in this series yet, and I doubt there will be. But it has been tolerable enough that I've kept watching it, though, so it's not all bad. But I wouldn't say it will get significantly different if you decide to keep watching it.

If somebody asked why I'm watching this series in the first place, I doubt I could give one solid answer. The only thing that comes into my mind is 13 mm...

Death13a
Mon, 03-12-2007, 01:07 PM
The series doesn't really have it up moments but nor downs either. Except when Orlen turns his latern on and when he have transision in his character. The series kinda grows on you and you keep watching.

Munsu
Tue, 03-13-2007, 08:04 PM
So far, I've only watched up to episode 6 and stopped cause I felt kinda bored. Does it get any better, better development of characters, etc? Is it worth it?
In my opinion it does get better. Of course, there are still those slow episodes that you really want to fast forward through, but there are some good character development episodes as you go on, plus there are some cool action scenes too. The story does get better too, and the series gets a plot, so that might be something to look forward to.

Kraco
Wed, 03-14-2007, 02:14 PM
The pumpkins have all but rolled down the hill already:

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Edit: A pretty decent episode. Probably because it was somewhat solely sword fighting (or rather dagger / machete), and no Orland chickening anymore. Alice presented more very interesting blade handling skills. No question of what manner of toys she spent her childhood with...

Munsu
Wed, 03-14-2007, 05:03 PM
Yeah, it was a nice episode... I wanted an all out battle for the final episode, but it doesn't seem like we'll get one. Hopefully a second season will be made.

complich8
Wed, 03-14-2007, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I'm definitely hoping for a second season. There's too much unresolved that's clearly not going to get resolved in an episode.

I have to say, my favorite bit of this episode was when Leonir realized "I've forgotten ... to breathe ..."

Kraco
Wed, 03-14-2007, 06:04 PM
I have to say, my favorite bit of this episode was when Leonir realized "I've forgotten ... to breathe ..."

Indeed. That scene also strengthened my view that Leonir might honestly love Alice, and it could be he's not only there because of some plot. Alice would never approve the Silver Wheel, but otherwise they would kind of fit together. Too bad we never saw Leonir throw that knife. I bet he would have had wicked skills...

Munsu
Wed, 03-14-2007, 06:45 PM
Lol, it would've been nice to see him throw the knife, especially when it looked like a freaking BUTTER KNIFE!!

Ryllharu
Wed, 03-14-2007, 07:07 PM
There is still one more episode, if we're lucky he may still have the opportunity. Watch the butter knife wedge like 2 inches into someone's skull.

I really liked the fluidity of the animation (or at least the illusion of fluidity from the dagger trail) during Alice's fight. Her sister's comment about Alice being a poor dancer but being able to move like that was perfect. It really enhanced the whole scene.

Here's to a second season.

Chaos
Thu, 03-15-2007, 12:06 AM
Yeah, I'm definitely hoping for a second season. There's too much unresolved that's clearly not going to get resolved in an episode.

I have to say, my favorite bit of this episode was when Leonir realized "I've forgotten ... to breathe ..."

I agree completely, there are too many loose ends to tie up in one episode. I also liked that part too with Leonir and they animated the fight scene really well.

Munsu
Thu, 03-15-2007, 08:17 AM
When they are explaining the name of the new skill, I heard "hidari" somewhere, so I think it's a skill meant to be used with the left hand only. I was wondering why the need to change hands, but apparently that's the reason... I think Eclipse left some detail out of the explanation.

RyougaZell
Thu, 03-15-2007, 09:38 AM
When they are explaining the name of the new skill, I heard "hidari" somewhere, so I think it's a skill meant to be used with the left hand only. I was wondering why the need to change hands, but apparently that's the reason... I think Eclipse left some detail out of the explanation.

Well... since I got curious thanks to your post I did a rapid search...



Hidari Jingorō (左 甚五郎, Hidari Jingorō?) was a Japanese artist, sculptor and carpenter, active from 1596-1644. Jingorō is known to have created many famous deity sculptures located throughout Japan. His famous nemuri-neko ("sleeping cat") carving is located above the Kuguri-mon Gate amidst the sacred mountain shrines and temples of Nikkō, Japan. Amongst these shrines and temples is Nikkō Tōshō-gū, a shrine that honors the Shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu.

Hidari Jingorō was a famous left-handed Edo period artist, designer, sculpturer, carpenter, and architect. His name Hidari (左) means "left" and "east".

Many stories have been written about Jingorō. According to one, he once saw a woman of such exceptional beauty that he made a sculpture of her. Jingorō begins to drink in the company of the sculpture, and it begins to move, following Jingorō's lead. At first it had no emotion and could only imitate Jingorō's movements. However, when he places a mirror in front of the sculpture, the woman's spirit enters and it comes to life.


The artist itself isn't of importance, but the translation of his name. Hidari in fact is left.

Munsu
Thu, 03-15-2007, 10:15 AM
I know "hidari" means left, I just don't know in what context it was used in the sentence. Maybe they used it simply to make notice that she was using her left hand, or maybe it was used to say that it's a skill meant for use by the left hand only. That's why I think Eclipse left some details out of the sentence. I myself think that it was used to describe a skill that can only be used with the left hand, else there's no reason or meaning behind her changing the blade to her left hand.

Edit: Apparently Main-gauche in itself means "left hand" in French, so there you go.

Kraco
Thu, 03-15-2007, 11:46 AM
Didn't they also say it was an entirely defensive technique? So, in that sense one might assume it's a special technique for using two blades, in fact: The one in left hand would be used to deflect the attacks of the opponent (like a shield), and the one in the right hand normally for attacks. Alice of course only had one blade, so she actually needed to change the hand just before the final attack.

Munsu
Thu, 03-15-2007, 11:50 AM
Speaking of the last attack, I like how she bitch slapped the guy. It was also ironic how Orland responded: "That had to hurt", when the dude has been through hell and hurt in unimaginable ways.

Board of Command
Sun, 03-18-2007, 09:20 PM
Seeing how the final episode will be released this week, I'm somewhat disappointed by the progress of this series. Around the halfway mark it was pretty clear that this series was about the Invisible 9. Everything up to the flamethrower part was about the Invisible 9. Then at the end it was suddenly about commoners vs. nobles and it looks like that's how the series will end. What gives? What happened to the Invisible 9? What's the deal with Alice's "sixth sense?" It's as if they just abandoned that storyline altogether.

complich8
Sun, 03-18-2007, 11:10 PM
I don't think they've so much abandoned the storyline as they're not done setting it up yet.

I'd say .... 2, maybe 3 more seasons to tell the whole of the story they've set up here. The current crisis is interesting, but in the storyline I'd say we've seen all of act 1 and the first scene of act 2. There's still the whole rest of the play before us.

Board of Command
Mon, 03-19-2007, 04:37 PM
Oh I didn't know there will be more episodes after this season.

complich8
Mon, 03-19-2007, 09:39 PM
oh, we don't either. Haven't you been paying attention to the last page or so? :p

Munsu
Tue, 03-20-2007, 04:36 AM
Yeah BoC, haven't you read what we've been posting about for the last few pages?

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The final frame of the episode:


So that we may meet again!

By the way, great episode. I didn't have high hopes for this episode, but the episode ended up being quite nice.

complich8
Tue, 03-20-2007, 06:00 AM
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As expected, Leonir defines the term "badass with a butterknife" ...

I was happy with this episode. Definitely hoping they pull out another season or two for the rest of the story ... it seems to just sort of beg to be told.

Munsu
Tue, 03-20-2007, 06:20 AM
Hehe, I was waiting for someone to mention Leonir and the butterknife. And did we get a glipse of the low tolerance to alcohol from Alice in any earlier episode, I don't quite remember but I think it has been mentioned before or something?

I really can't wait to see Orland against the Silver Wheel, I wonder how he's going to handle them. Orland is too slow, and not only are these guys fast, they seem very destructive. I can't expect to see any other members of Section 3 "powering-up", so at the moment their future seems very bleak.

Ryllharu
Tue, 03-20-2007, 07:44 AM
It does seem that section 3 is overloaded with strength. Orland is obvious, and Alice needs a lot of room to use her stronger sword techniques.

Oreld and Machs seem more like intelligence officers than being able do to much of anything physical. Maybe that will help Section 3 more than anything.

Munsu
Tue, 03-20-2007, 08:08 AM
Wait, you actually think Section 3 is overloaded with strength, especially compared to the Silver Wheel?

Ryllharu
Tue, 03-20-2007, 11:32 AM
Strength versus speed. I didn't mean actual numbers, where the Silver Wheel is FAR superior. Just combat styles between the individuals we've seen.

The masked guy and Leonir are both very fast blade fighters, while Orland is overwhelming (via the Lantern and the Door Knocker), and Alice's double blade is not particularly fast in comparison to the Silver Wheel members we've seen, but due to its weight, is very powerful.

I was speculating on a lot of one-on-one fights.

complich8
Tue, 03-20-2007, 02:13 PM
I think the silver wheel is a little more subtle than to end up in what amounts to a tournament with Section 3. At least, I'll give them more credit for it than that ...

I'm interested in what their real motives and intentions are. It's pretty obvious that they're not particularly in favor of the status quo, and they're not particularly in favor of Alice's reconstructed world either. Are they just discordians?

Ryllharu
Tue, 03-20-2007, 03:38 PM
I wasn't implying a tournament, but this season was all single fights in isolated areas, so I assumed the rest of the story would be the same. One flamethrower guy, single tanks, etc.

Kraco
Tue, 03-20-2007, 03:56 PM
The greatest question left in my mind after this episode was what Leonir really felt and wanted. In the earlier episodes it had indeed looked like he was genuinely interested in Alice romantically, but what he said in this final episode made it look like he is looking forward to having her as an opponent in the schemes Silver Wheel seems to exists for - and Pumpkin Scissors fights against.

Of course it could be for Leonir those two are the same thing. He certainly gave the kind of impression he wants challenges and not easy victories. Maybe fighting against Alice (in a broader sense and not sword fighting) would be for him what more traditional courting would be for some regular guys. I hope the next season, if such is really coming, would have something along those lines. I still simply can't see Alice and Orland together as a romantic pair.

Board of Command
Tue, 03-20-2007, 08:06 PM
I really hope there's another season.... So many things left unanswered.

RyougaZell
Wed, 03-21-2007, 09:14 AM
A good final episode. Although at first I was dissapointed Section I didn't interfer. But then to be revelead that not only Leonir, but also the Marquis where in league with Silver Wheel saved the episode.
Overall good series, that desperately needs a 2nd Season.

RPG2000
Sat, 03-24-2007, 06:55 PM
In the end…I didn’t get the feeling of completeness at all, just like with Trinity Blood…..but still….

As far the animation production went, everything went neat.

Character development was done fine (at least for Randel and Alice). However, Randel’s dark past was never fully explained for some un-holy reason. Quite a disappointment, since he was the most interesting character of the bunch. Alice was fine, but uninteresting. I wasn’t really that interested in her past or her. The other characters were OK, but nothing especial…well except the wacky woman doctor (The one that made Randel the way he is; she seemed quite interesting character, but…she was just lost somewhere in the middle) and Leonir (he looked stable most of the time, but at the end…he just seemed quite mess up rather than well)

In all, the series started great, but in the end nothing was fully explain; a lot was left in the air which was quite a disappointment (that’s if a second season isn’t made)…still there is no doubt I enjoyed it.

MFauli
Sat, 03-24-2007, 10:19 PM
um, do you really think there wont be another season`?
lol

MFauli
Wed, 05-07-2008, 06:29 PM
Woah, thats a long time and noone replied ^^
Anyway, being remembered by that new anime, is there word about a 2nd PS-season? The ending really wasnt a conclusion at all, so i would have thought somethings coming.

Munsu
Thu, 05-08-2008, 01:53 AM
Hard to say, you never know they've plans to do something until they announce it. Anime seem content to leave stories unfinished. The other thing, was the anime loyal to the manga? From what I can tell, only 9 volumes have come out in Japan and I'm willing to bet that that's just about enough content to make one season (which we already have).... so until Japan releases more content, I can't see a second season coming, and that's assuming that the anime was loyal to the manga.

Library War is reminding you about this right?

complich8
Thu, 05-08-2008, 08:28 AM
Anime covered a little more than 5 volumes of manga content, so if it's to continue, I'd imagine they'd need another 5-6 volumes. Which means about the time volume 11 wraps up would be a good time to start, depending on how dense the material is.

If only 9 volumes are out ... no idea, but that'd probably be like 2 more years before we'd see that next set animated, minimum.