Zero no Tsukaima: The Familiar of Zero

[Munsu]

First episode released by Froth-Bite:
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_01%5B6936BD97%5D.mp4.torrent


"When Saito wakes up, a cute girl is looking into his face. Looking around, he finds himself in a strange place surounded by people looking like wizards. Then,he learns that he was summoned as a magic servant by the girl, Louise. While he is embarrassed, Louise kisses him, saying that it is a contract. Soon, strange letters appears on his hand, and he is made a servant."


http://www.zero-tsukaima.com/
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4146
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6660
http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,3584,qpfcjr,zero_no_tsukaim.html

[RPG2000]

The series looks like a mix of Negima Sensei and Maburaho…..kinda.

In all, for any one into magic/fantasy, it might worth checking out. It seems quite fun and easy to follow (very cliché and all, but nevertheless….)

[TheNineTails]

This show is quite interesting I'd really like to find out wats that mark on teh commoner's hand that apeared when he was summoned :D

[Yukimura]

Not bad, I'm intrested, which menas the first ep did it's job. It's funny that I felt this was kinda cliched even though I've never seen a show quite like this. Guess I've been listening to too many stories around here.

[SamuraiOdin]

First episode was definately worth watching. I think the next 2-3 episodes will determine though whether the series will be any good, so here's hoping that the second episode is as interesting as the first.

Episode 2: http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_02%5BDD88E5DF%5D.mp4.torrent

[Yukimura]

If you don't like mp4 (like me, but for no real reason then here's Episode 2 by KuroNeko (http://85.8.4.222:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_02_MQ%5B2D1491C3 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=a2a3e6d08753f0dc48938794 9bf342835ba48b3e) this isn't an HQ release I'll post that when it comes out.

[Ryllharu]

I liked this eps. They got through all of the servant/rebellion stuff, introduced a new character, and gave us a pretty good idea what makes Yuji- er... Saito special as Louise's familiar.

I'll stick with this show.

[Munsu]

Series seems OK to me, I'll keep watching. I wonder why Saito only got strong when he grabbed the sword. Was it because of a new found resolution? Or was it simply the act of grabbing a weapon?

[kooshi]

So far, the series is going just alright. Gotta watch a few more episodes to determine if this would be worth watching or not.

[Dark Dragon]

i like the main character already "i don't care if i have to sleep on the floor, i don't care if i have to eat bad food, i can't help that so i'll live with it, BUT i'm never going to bow down to anyone againts my will." i would've like Shakugan no Shana alot more if the main char wasn't so useless, hopefully this one will be better.

[Yukimura]

Zero no Tsukaima - 03 by KuroNeko (http://85.8.4.222:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_03_MQ%5BD6A6AE48 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=87de734af237d9a6cb9f3ffe 55fef20840cb3d9b)

Lots of laughs in this one, but I wasn't falling out of my chair or anything.

[Everon]

Series seems OK to me, I'll keep watching. I wonder why Saito only got strong when he grabbed the sword. Was it because of a new found resolution? Or was it simply the act of grabbing a weapon?

I suppose the contract rune that burned onto his hand (as explained in episode 3) gave him some strength to fight back effectively with a sword


i like the main character already "i don't care if i have to sleep on the floor, i don't care if i have to eat bad food, i can't help that so i'll live with it, BUT i'm never going to bow down to anyone againts my will." i would've like Shakugan no Shana alot more if the main char wasn't so useless, hopefully this one will be better.

Yeah, but this time its gonna be the other way around - with Louise being useless and Saito saving the day. :-P

[Mr Squiggles]

Zero no tsukaima - 4 (Kuroneko):
http://85.8.4.222:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_04_MQ%5B6E592A01 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=49d6de1a76584686d6662873 c1f538281c40d3b6

wondering what this one's going to be like...

[Kraco]

One fine series. I will most certainly and most eargerly wait for new episodes. While it can't be argued this series wouldn't lack cliches, it still pulls off remarkably well. The personality of the main character matters a lot, if not most. Although he's not exactly a hero, he still has pride, a wicked sense of humour, much spirit, and yet a healthy amount of self-preservation instinct.

But it was quite a family treasure... Totally fitting of course, considering the family, though.

[Kraco]

The struggle of a summoned commoner continues:

Episode 5 MQ - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_05_MQ%5BA3EF4CDA %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=e3c35d7e23406b41f0e72734 0635b485b3fa0ffb)

Edit: Quite a nice episode. And Saito has retained his wicked sense of humour. If he keeps that way through the series, he's going to be pretty high on the fine main character scale.

There was a plot hole the size of a five story building, literally. However, it was so outrageous that it was actually far more hilarious than annoying. What I'm talking about is of course how nobody noticed when a gigantic golem was summoned at the backyard of the school. Weren't there supposed to be even extra guards patrolling the perimeters?

[Ryllharu]

Didn't you see the scene of when the blue haired girl, so tempted to call her Yuki, flew around on her dragon or whatever it is?

The golem was on the backside of the huge tower, in theory directly opposed to the exhibition. Regardless of that, you're still right. It was loud when it came out of the ground, loud when it was attempting to break the tower, and louder still when it first grabbed Yuuji off the ground. One would think people would notice.

Still, it was a good eps. The scenes where Louise viciously beats Yuuji with the horsewhip never cease to amuse me. I particularly liked when he started dodging and taunting her in front of Henrietta after pulling a "cool guy" routine on her and Louise.

[IFHTT]

Episode 6 - Kuroneko MQ (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_06_MQ%5BF592C923 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=42373845c9cc46774b416135 c1c4af0db3f036e1)

[Munsu]

Froth-Bite episode 6:
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_06%5B89B58F8C%5D.mp4.torrent

[Kraco]

The subbing efforts on this series are quite exemplary; three subbers and all are keeping up nicely enough. And all of them would be worth watching, although I have only checked two, but no doubt also the Static-Subs - Ayu coalition is producing high quality.

That being said, the episode 6 (I already watched the Kuroneko release), certainly offered the biggest surprise yet; in the form of the staff of destruction. I supppose it shoudn't have been such a surprise after the family treasure the other episode, but still: I didn't expect the staff of destruction to be something even I've been trained to use...

This is one fine series. But why does it seem to me that almost all fine series these days are half length ones? This is also only bloody 13 episodes. No grander plots for this one, it seems.

[Munsu]

It was pretty obvious who the thief was, and I hope they bring that character back in the future, she was pretty kickass. I'm saddened to think that they already took her out of the picture.

[Everon]

7th is out by Kureneko. avi format only at the moment

Got annoyed by a new character in this episode. It was too over the top to be humerous for me.

[Kraco]

An excellent episode. Beginning right with the intro itself; one more cool guy Saito scene, rivalling the scene in episode 5. Otherwise I have to say this episode was very traditional, but on the other hand this series as a whole is placing its trust on good old schemes, and it suits me just fine.

It's sad, though, that the train has now turned and is heading back home, like a Finnish saying goes; seven of thirteen episodes released.

The link Everon forgot to post:
Episode 7 - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_07_MQ%5BD01B47EC %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=38087094793ab8b8d73b68db b4c9ac21a28de337)


It was pretty obvious who the thief was, and I hope they bring that character back in the future, she was pretty kickass. I'm saddened to think that they already took her out of the picture.
The preview for the next episode had some good news for you.

[Munsu]

Ah that's great, though I'm still waiting for Froth-Bite to release before watching this episode.


Edit: Just watched Froth-Bite's episode 7:

http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_07%5B9B57F096%5D.mp4.torrent

Wasn't too fond of the episode, but it was ok I guess. There wasn't anything on the preview of interest, but right at the end of the episode my favorite character was shown. In my opinion, this series needs a little bit of more action, the fights that have been shown so far have been quite good, they need to do them more frequently, especially with this short series.

[Kraco]

Oh, yes. It wasn't in the preview, but at the end of the episode. That's what I really meant.

Anyway, the next episode:

Episode 8 - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_08_MQ%5BC60A18F3 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=bb7ce59369d9abd95b1a53c8 9409af1270076249)

A good episode. Although it didn't contain anything really novel, mainly some traditional elements, but it had a solid integrity nonetheless, and it developed characters nicely. Zero more than the others and with an unnatural speed... Yet with only 4 more eps to go, I can't help but feel the development of the secondary characters might be wasted, unless that side story becomes the main one in the next episode.

[SamuraiOdin]

For those waiting for Froth-Bite's episode 8, here it is:
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_08%5BBE033C09%5D.mp4.torrent

[Kraco]

It's a crime not to wait for the next Zero episode as if your life depended on it:

Episode 9 - Kuroneko (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_09_MQ%5BE76EA71D %5D.avi.torrent). It's labeled as a temporary link, but that's what they offer.

Edit: An interesting episode to say the least. And the small stories that began earlier are connected to each other nicely. I certainly didn't anticipate the love potion scheme would lead anywhere but indeed it did.

Also contained a scene equal in funniness to the three arrows What's wrong? scene in Utawarerumono...

- "The water level is abnormally high"
- "Abnormally?"
- "Look."

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4632/abnormallyhighwaterxo9.jpg
Well, I guess this wasn't after all just the local style of building houses half underwater...

[Kraco]

Zero is back to her tsundere ways, so let's see what happens next:

Episode 10 - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_10_MQ%5B327DF6D7 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=4a89d8fb59d8d3867b0bb4da 25dc11590eaf2132)

Edit: A splendid episode. The plot still follows very traditional trails, but so it has done all the time, and it has hardly hindered this series. Jolly good as always.

[Ryllharu]

It seemed pretty obvious to me that Ward was Foquet's ally standing in the shadows after Guiche got slapped. I suppose that connects into why he wants to marry Louise and become a powerful Noble.

All in all, a good eps, but I'm left wondering how they will quickly bring in the major conflict and resolve it in only 3 eps.

[Kraco]

Indeed. That's something I have been wondering ever since the real story started... 2 episodes ago?

I have to agree it was probably Ward standing there, in the shadows. Of course it could yet be something else, but right now Ward looks and behaves in such a traditional disguised evil guy's manner that it's hard to imagine he could be anything else. And besides, if he was a good guy, Louise would need to really dumb him without such a strong reason.

So, the reason why Louise is Zero is that she's in fact a void mage, who just tries to meddle with the other four elements ill suited for her? Somehow void magic sounds ominous, dark side and deadly.

[SamuraiOdin]

For those that like the Froth-Bite releases, here are episodes 9 and 10:
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_09%5B612614CA%5D.mp4.torrent

http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_10%5B648981EF%5D.mp4.torrent

[masamuneehs]

since people seem to watch this one I figured you'd all want the link to episode 11 asap.

edit: link removed. my bad Kraco.

...wonder if i should give this show a whirl...

[Kraco]

According to the Kuroneko website, that one is not an official final release.




Some who were not here when it was released, may wonder why its nowhere on the tracker or chan, reason is release has been delayed due to a last-minute error so instead of the multiples nipticking comments ‘dude did ya see that ….’ we cancelled the release and will be delayed till the encoder can re encode and distro re-seed it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

If you dl a release of ep 11 somewhere, it is a fake one… so please don’t complain bout it.

I'm still waiting for the rerelease...

This is a very pleasant little show. Completely cliched, but the story is funny nonetheless (especially if you don't mind tsundere comedy). What makes this show better than many bulk tsundere shows is that the main male character has a pretty wicked sense of humour, made evident every now and then.

[darkshadow]

DDL of zero 11
http://www.lythka.com/dl/F-B/%5bFroth-Bite%5dZero_no_Tsukaima_-_11%5b856893B2%5d.mp4

[Kraco]

Kuroneko also got their final version of #11 out:

Episode 11 - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_11_MQ%5B3991BFD2 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=7faed390d810fd3e10117f31 6d0d1297bb17b4e7)

Quite an episode. But this anime is really far too fast paced. While this was still a good episode, it should have been two or three episodes, not one. The speed is damaging the series. But with only a couple of episodes left, there's not much room for loitering anymore. Unfortunately. I wish this was 26 episodes, or a second season would be coming.

[Church]

I just started this 2 days ago; yes, it's cliched, but it's very well done. I agree with the episode count though, is super-fast paced short animes the fad now? Like FSN and Melancholy/Haruhi, just to name a couple...

[Yukimura]

Zero no Tsukaima - 12 by Froth-Bite (http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_12%5B011CB56A%5D.mp4.torrent) the penultimate episode! How they hell are they going to cram a sensible plot into two more eps?!?! Find out here!

[Kraco]

Kuroneko also got their version out:

Episode 12 - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_12_MQ%5B9AC9D2D7 %5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=38fe9a61db18e89ef6c64adf d42acc383ed7544c)

It's hard to believe the next episode will be the last one. If this and the previous episodes were rushed I don't even dare to imagine how rushed the last one will be. Not only need they to stop a whole war in one ep but also sort out Saito and Zero's fate, plus hopefully explain a few things like what the void magic actually is. That's plenty for one ep...

[Church]

The next episode will either be very very rushed or left open on purpose for sequels. I'm really suprised at this, I didn't think I would like this series this much.

Btw, Chapter 1 is translated.
http://project.baka-tsuki.net/index.php?title=Zero_no_Tsukaima
Something else to read besides Melancholy/Suzumiya

[Kraco]

Grief... The last episode of here. And so one more great series ends:

Episode 13 Final - Kuroneko (http://b-landia.no-ip.com:6969/torrents/%5BKuroneko%5D%20Zero_No_Tsukaima_13_MQ_END%5B1D15 BBDB%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=df136808ee6f5e037db6 7960bebc5150ea363473)

Edit: It's always a bit sad to leave good series behind. But to quote a nameless critic: a story is only good if it knows when to end. This story did know that, despite the fact it was hard to believe just one episode ago. So much to finish in one episode. Episode 13 did succeed in that, although the inevitable consequence was that all the scenes were really short and harshly cut to the point. Yet somehow they still managed to squeeze enough seconds for a little bit of romanticism and a last scene that paid homage to the series's innermost spirit.

A great series. Somewhat hurried towards the end, but can't be helped.

[SamuraiOdin]

For those that wait for F-B's releases, here's episode 13: http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5BFroth-Bite%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_-_13%5B11D77AD9%5D.mp4.torrent

*Downloading now*

[Death BOO Z]

just finished it now, better than i first thought...
though, when i first saw the name i thought it would be a bit less childish style (whenever i see the word Zero i'm thinking of megaman zero and how great the games are...), but still, i was nice, not too many wasted episodes, and even funny at times.

though, i wonder why they bother keeping an army around. twenty dudes got wasted by a silly golem, without even directing thier sword towards it...

anyway, is there a list of the episodes names somewhere? i mean the english names translated by FB..

[Kraco]

I doubt this has been any news for anybody for a good long time, but lets post it here, nevertheless, should some new viewer visit this thread at some point:


The official website (http://www.zero-tsukaima.com/) for Zero no Tsukaima, confirms production of a second season. No further details are available.

I, surprise surprise, welcomed this news with great gladness when I first time heard the rumours. The first season was concluded, though, which leads me to believe the creators didn't plan to make a second season in the first place, but let's hope they can somehow continue it without any dubious solutions.

[Ryllharu]

The books go on for quite some time, I believe the first season covers material in the first 4 or so books. Or it might jump around, skipping stuff here and there. There shouldn't be any dubious solutions. They still shouldn't have rushed the ending of the first season, but I also think the creators had no plans for a second season.

[Munsu]

Finally finished the series, I had stopped at episode 9, it was an entertaining one. I had my doubts at first, but it has some nice characters and some memorable scenes. I thought the ending was good, hopefully a second season won't ruin that (it's rare to have a good ending).

You said this series covered the first 4 book, how many are there total?

[Kraco]

There are some things to look forward in the second season. For example this poster suggests, at least with a superficial analysis, that Zero's family, or parts of, could be introduced. Something I somehow wasn't expecting at all, but the prospect makes me certainly wait even more for the second season!

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6441/zerosmomob2.jpg

[animus]

Just finished watching the series, it was quite good. My favorite scene has to be the part where Zero wins the Tip Race, and tries on the black waitress outfit for Saito and asks for his opinion. He then goes "Tres bien!" with his silly >_< face. I cracked up so hard, and couldn't stop laughing for awhile.

[Munsu]

Series got licensed by Geneon... I haven't heard anything about the second season.


Anime Boston: Geneon Announces The Familiar of Zero
At its Anime Boston panel, Geneon Entertainment has announced the acquisition of The Familiar of Zero (Zero no Tsukaima), J.C. Staff's 13-episode TV series about a young female magician living in an alternate world who summons an ordinary Japanese boy to be her familiar during a magic aptitude test. Release of this series is currently planned for later in 2007.

[Munsu]

Second season coming sooner than expected:


The Familiar of Zero Second Series to Air in July
Moon Phase reports that Chiba TV and other Japanese stations will broadcast the previously announced second television series of The Familiar of Zero magical fantasy anime in July. Geneon Entertainment announced it had licensed the first series at Anime Boston 2007.

[Kraco]

Heh. A few weeks ago some thought (and reported) it would start this month already, but it quickly was revealed it was just a rerun on the first season in Japan and the new season would start in July. Still, July isn't really that far away. It could be much worse, like with Shana that apparently will continue no sooner than in October.

[Kraco]

The show's very near now, and things like previews have appeared:

Zero no Tsukaima: Futatsuki no Kishi Preview - SLF (http://ks2618.kimsufi.com/slf/torrents/%5BSLF%5DZero_no_Tsukaima_Futatsuki_no_Kishi_Previ ew_%5BE0F6AEE3%5D.avi.torrent)

Didn't reveal that much, as usual, but Saito seems to still be attracted by women... The subs of the preview looked like they were written by some Japanese guy in Engrish, but it's not like you'd need special subs for a seconds long preview flick anyway...

[Munsu]

I wanted to post about how nice the second series looks, but man what horrible subs... I couldn't stop laughing. "I not forgive!!"

[Yukimura]

Zero no Tsukaima: Knight of the Two Moons - 01 - [Your-Mom] (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1301)

Plenty of laughs again as Saito and Louise resume their dance of skirt chasing, jealousy, and misery. As well as new characters (who, of course, hate Saito) and some plot developments already.

[Kraco]

Damn, this series is just as great as I remembered. Though they really did make a point out of Saito's skirt chasing ways. A strong start, for sure.

However, wasn't the ring supposed to be returned to the spirit in the lake? Or does my memory totally fail me and I'm mixing some story element here...

[animus]

Pretty good first episode, though it feels like what was in the first season (being that Saito was the object of many girl's attention) seems to be nonexistant, and now only focused on Saito and Louise and his perversion.

[Ryllharu]

The novels (of which I read the first that only barely gets through Fouquet), Saito is much more perverse than he was in the first season, so this first episode of season 2 is actually more in line with his personality. Apparently Louise is really into S&M (and apparently Saito doesn't really seem to mind too much himself). I had a good laugh the scene where the Firearms Commander walks in on Louise mounting Saito covered in scars, only to immediately walk out.

The glasses are a "family treasure" that Louise had to intently negotiate for? Seems to me that her tendencies run in the family, just like Kirche's sluttiness runs in hers.

As for the ring, the water spirit told Saito that it knew that Gandalvs always fulfill their promises eventually, so it said it would wait. And what's a human's lifetime to something eternal?

[Kraco]

Ho... Yesy also picked up this series. I've been an admirer of their subbing efforts ever since Utawarerumono, so it's quite likely I'll archive their subs. Although that does depend on whether they will release HQ h264 versions (assuming raws will be available). Times have changed and even I'm finally changing with them, now considering h264 the codec of choice, rather than xvid.

Episode 1 - Yesy (http://a.scarywater.net/yesy/%5Byesy%5D_Zero_no_Tsukaima_-_Futatsuki_no_Kishi_-_01_%5Bxvid_mp3%5D%5B0B1A39B6%5D.avi.torrent)

Edit:
Episode 1 h264 HQ - Yesy (http://a.scarywater.net/yesy/%5Byesy%5D_Zero_no_Tsukaima_-_Futatsuki_no_Kishi_-_01v2_%5Bx264_aac%5D%5B1024x576%5D%5BFFD5F81C%5D.m kv.torrent)

I think the game is settled for me, although I still, probably, for objectiveness sake, need to actually watch their sub to check it out with my own eyes...

Edit2: HQ link updated to version 2.

[Yukimura]

Zero no Tsukaima - 01 MQ - [KuroNeko] (http://www.k-neko.net/torrents/%5bKuroneko%5d_Zero%20No%20Tsukaima%20II%20-%2001%20%5b3730E5BC%5d.avi.torrent)

Those of you who remember the first series should remember them, they do good work and also do Widescreen Releases, but they seem to be slow as molasses with them. Still waiting on the HQ's of 11-13 but I'll give them the benefit for a while on S2.

[Kraco]

Those of you who remember the first series should remember them, they do good work...

I used to think so, and archived them, but then not many months ago I rewatched the series, and I realised the Kuroneko subs were horrible. Basically no QC. I have no idea why I didn't see it the first time through. I guess the series was so great I didn't pay attention. Needless to say, I redownloaded the first season from elsewhere (SS-Ayu if memory serves), burned the redownload and changed my Access table to point to the new disk.

[animus]

Episode 2 XviD - YourMom (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1372)
Episode 2 h264 - YourMom (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1371)

I really hate the whole cliche where someone just can't believe something when the evidence is smacking you so hard in the face you'd get whiplash. I find it annoying to absolutely no end how some of these characters can just be so unrealistic when it comes to common sense and logic.

[Yukimura]

Well Henrietta is kind of an idiot and doesn't deserve to be a Queen since she can't control her passions, but at least she sticks to her convictions.

[shinta|hikari]

Well, she did have the cheesy excuse Romeo and Juliet, and probably most eloping characters used.

[David75]

well, watched it all.
Refreshing and nice, even though main characters are so yound... I guess it"s like that for most anime...

thanks for all of you

[rgrintz]

episode 3 is out:

xvid: http://tracker.anirena.com/details.php?id=1437&hit=1

h264: http://tracker.anirena.com/details.php?id=1436&hit=1

[shinta|hikari]

I wonder how strong the blonde guy is. With Saito being able to at least look like he was fighting with that guy, the new guy will stand no chance when Saito's Tsukaima powers are released. With that in mind, he would have to have other skills to be at least useful other than being a love triangle plot device for the show.

[David75]

I'm not on hollydays yet, so I maintain that thread ;)

Ep4
http://www.mininova.org/get/819049

Ep5
http://www.mininova.org/get/830212

c u

Edit 08/09/07:
So no one is watching it for the moment?
Those eps confirm the wicked SM roots we've seen before... and even
some accidental yuri...
This anime isn't really about magic and fantasy I guess... lol

c u

[Bucket]

I watched E4 last week, and I don't know why they'd go through so much trouble to get those two together only to have it fall apart in the last 15 seconds of the episode. Maybe E5 will explain what the hell is going on there...

[David75]

I watched E4 last week, and I don't know why they'd go through so much trouble to get those two together only to have it fall apart in the last 15 seconds of the episode. Maybe E5 will explain what the hell is going on there...

Well, I guess this is the main interrest of the show, having this 2 on the verge of falling in love.
Plus it's funny to have them in their SM mood :D

[Yukimura]

Lol Siesta is not even blinking anymore in her attempts to sabotage Saito and Louise. Add that to the beatings from the sister I can't help but feel even worse for for him then last season.

[David75]

Add that to the beatings from the sister I can't help but feel even worse for for him then last season.
I think Saito actually likes the SM parts a lot... but that's only my opinion ;)

[Bucket]

Maybe the S&M scenes would be funnier if they weren't so predictable I could set my watch by them. Oh well. I shouldn't expect Shakespeare, and I've already got a vested interest in the show, but this is a huge drop from the first season.

[Bucket]

Episode 6 is out.
http://your-mom-fansubs.blogspot.com/

No direct link because they fudged it up. I had to save the file and rename it.

[Church]

Another good episode, plenty of stuff happened, but in the end it's just stuff. WHERE IS MY SAITO HAX?!?! I mean, this season we've seen like what? Maybe 20 seconds of him actually doing anything remotely cool? otherwise it's just random stuff and other characters. Saito needs to kick some ass, badly...
Ok, now I need to go to sleep...

[David75]

Another good episode, plenty of stuff happened, but in the end it's just stuff. WHERE IS MY SAITO HAX?!?! I mean, this season we've seen like what? Maybe 20 seconds of him actually doing anything remotely cool? otherwise it's just random stuff and other characters. Saito needs to kick some ass, badly...
Ok, now I need to go to sleep...

You know what, I feel a bit the same. I'll add that it was as poorly scenarised as a porn for almost all of the ep.
I hope this grudge Anies has can help something interresting to arise.

This princess is really pathetic, we do not even know if she has powers (she can't be a commoner, yet she didn't show anything interresting)

c u

[shinta|hikari]

One of the reasons I liked ZnT is because the main character wasnt a worthless pussy. The second season has kept disproving this. They need to exercise some action animation and make Saito more worthwhile to watch, even for non-SnM fans.

[Board of Command]

There definitely isn't enough sword usage. Need less harem, more sword.

[Church]

yet she didn't show anything interresting

IDK, those boobs certainly looked very interesting ;)

[David75]

Ep7:
http://www.mininova.org/get/848940

Maybe a tad better?

Oh, and I like how french is written :D, the declaration of war is quite funny.
The announcement in the village too, plus I like how the translation Louise makes is so detailed compared to the text.

I know, it's quite low to laugh about this.
Still I have a question: Why do they try and translate things all by themselves, when there are a number of gaijins that could help, coming from many countries.
Why wouldn't they call for help from fans?

It's not the first time I've read totally wrong translations in English, French and even German (Nodame Cantabile for exemple). It's not like these are very rare languages
and help is hard to find.

c u

[Kraco]

It's one big mystery, especially with English. People who know English very well should be abundant enough even in Japan. But somehow those people always seem to totally avoid any contact with the anime industry. I guess for a regular Japanese anime viewer it makes little difference because if you pick a statistical average Japanese person from the streets, his/her English won't be anywhere near excellent, so even crappy Engrish will seem decent to them. And I suppose that's reason enough why they don't want to "waste" half an hour to find somebody who actually knows English to proofread the stuff (or any other language). Sometimes I think they just use Babelfish.

[David75]

It's one big mystery, especially with English. People who know English very well should be abundant enough even in Japan. But somehow those people always seem to totally avoid any contact with the anime industry. I guess for a regular Japanese anime viewer it makes little difference because if you pick a statistical average Japanese person from the streets, his/her English won't be anywhere near excellent, so even crappy Engrish will seem decent to them. And I suppose that's reason enough why they don't want to "waste" half an hour to find somebody who actually knows English to proofread the stuff (or any other language). Sometimes I think they just use Babelfish.

Hum, that was part of my thinking.
They do not bother enough to search even for quick help.
Maybe they don't want to spread any glimpse of a show or ep too soon too.
They probably prepare eps in a quick and very busy batch, no time for such details.
And maybe a bit of pride?
Babelfish or any tool like it, funny sometimes though :D

Thanks

[Church]

wow... I'm hating this series more with each passing episode. Saito is so irritatingly stupid and useless now... I can't even describe in words the shame I have for this series... :(
And I had such great hopes too.

[David75]

Ep 8
http://www.mininova.org/get/858475

Not seen yet.

[Church]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~!!!!
I'm going to go nuts!
WHY?!?! WHY?!?! Where is my Saito HAX?!
I was so ready for it from the start of the episode, but no, they put on a huge cock tease. WTF.
This show completely sucks now... I'm willing to put my money on the next episode brushing the fight off as well <_<

[Kraco]

Hard to believe it's already the 9th episode...

Episode 9 - Your-Mom (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=1941)

- - - - -



Edit: Oh... Somehow I didn't see this coming. One of the better episodes so far, no doubt. Little comedy but other aspect more than made up for it. While it was obvious from the previous episode Colbert is the Captain, I still didn't foresee him getting killed.

[animus]

I really hated this episode. I don't know why, maybe it's cause the series thus far has been so boring and then they bring this in. I wasn't really surprised when it happened, but I was really really aggravated. I seriously don't know why, but that's what I was feeling the whole episode especially once Anies decides to attack Colbert. I couldn't count how many things just annoyed me for apparently no reason, like Kirche getting annoyed when Tabatha told her to wait more, Louise blushing because she untied ropes, Anies' deranged and crazed face the whole episode, when the teacher told them not to engage to enemy but they did anyways, the bad guy's "I can feel your temperature!" shpiel. Maybe I'm just PMS'ing or something because normally these things happening in another series wouldn't bother me, but this put me in a bad mood.

[David75]

I really hated this episode. I don't know why, maybe it's cause the series thus far has been so boring and then they bring this in. I wasn't really surprised when it happened, but I was really really aggravated. I seriously don't know why, but that's what I was feeling the whole episode especially once Anies decides to attack Colbert. I couldn't count how many things just annoyed me for apparently no reason, like Kirche getting annoyed when Tabatha told her to wait more, Louise blushing because she untied ropes, Anies' deranged and crazed face the whole episode, when the teacher told them not to engage to enemy but they did anyways, the bad guy's "I can feel your temperature!" shpiel. Maybe I'm just PMS'ing or something because normally these things happening in another series wouldn't bother me, but this put me in a bad mood.

I had quite the same feeling, as if the scenarist were waking up after puting the audience in such a sleep... and having audience rates hitting bottom hard.
But I guess it's not that, since it's probably impossible for a show to be modified quickly enough to adapt to audience figures.

[Kraco]

Despite the fact I kind of liked this episode, I do understand what you fellows are talking about. I think one of the big reasons is that this second season hasn't generally delivered as well as the first did, in my opinion (and I think in other people's opinions as well). When it has been a slope for so long, you get used to annoying details failures. Many of those things Animus mentioned indeed bothered me as well, but I'm really a fan of important characters dying in a meaningful manner, so it was a big remedy for me, personally.

[Church]

WORSTEST EPISODE EVAR (including the fact Colbert died)
wow... I didn't think it could get any worse, not just the episode, the whole show fails.

[David75]

Ep 10
http://www.mininova.org/get/882755

I'm getting it right now.

[Kraco]

This season is starting to look really worse than the first one. That's too bad. I had such high hopes for the second season. It feels like there's little direction in all of it, story or otherwise. And I can't help but feel that the relationship between Saito and Louise is developing too artificially: It's pushed forward by external circumstances but when the situation calms down it seems again very bland.

[shinta|hikari]

I agree. They could have done so much more with the second season. This is quite disappointing.

[Ryllharu]

This episode was a total waste. They could have gone through the whole thing with Henry, Louise and Saito in 10 minutes. Instead they dragged it out over the entire episode.

I'd read the novels (which are reportedly worlds better), but Baka-Tsuki is too slow with the translations.

[David75]

Another point struck me, I wonder if I'm correct but:
-The art was awful, especially Louise very badly drawn on number of ocasions.
-The voice actor for Saito has changed, with a deeper tone or what?

[Ryllharu]

Correct on the first, wrong on the second. The art did degrade a bit, but it's the same Saito as always.

[shinta|hikari]

I wonder if they are having budget problems with this show. Even if the script is badly written, it doesnt have to affect the art. Though I do think that the first season's art also slowly devolved as it advanced.

[animus]

10 episodes in and we haven't seen Saito kick ANY ass, except for 2 dragons in his plane. And that's barely anything.

[oyabun]

Even the magic sucks... I wanna see how strong the void magic really is.

[David75]

Even the magic sucks... I wanna see how strong the void magic really is.
Well, if the sword is correct, we'll have to wait for quite a long time before we see void magic at its full potential again...

The first and only time we saw it, it was mainly a hughe explosion of energy, wiping everything around. Effective in a way, not very precise and easy to use.

There's a point I think is strange. In the first season, it seemed that Saito had to play a role in the use of Void magic.

This time, Louise was trying to invoke it on her own without help from Saito... maybe that's why it didn't work. If I remember correctly, she was in a kind of hypnotism, and Saito used her as if she had been a weapon meant to fight. Don't you think so?

I may be wrong, but maybe we'll discover that Love is the main power source required for the use of Void magic...

[Kraco]

The void magic is slow to initiate. Saito's role in it is to protect Louise while she summons the void power and is pretty much defenseless until it's completed.

[David75]

The void magic is slow to initiate. Saito's role in it is to protect Louise while she summons the void power and is pretty much defenseless until it's completed.

In my memory, the way Saito was holding Louise when they first used Void magic, was very much like if he used a weapon. But maybe it's an erroneous impression left in my memory.

[oyabun]

Well that sucks if the "love" is the power source of void magic.. I mean come on.. And just as Kraco said, Saito's role is to protect Louise while she cast her magic.. He has a role alright.. But in a logical way. I want louise to use cool magic not just random wave of her wand resulting in a big explosion.

[David75]

Well that sucks if the "love" is the power source of void magic.. I mean come on.. And just as Kraco said, Saito's role is to protect Louise while she cast her magic.. He has a role alright.. But in a logical way. I want louise to use cool magic not just random wave of her wand resulting in a big explosion.

She has been able to remove ropes on the hands of the girls in the previous incident.
That's quite remarkable, no one was hurt, no explosion :D and it worked for at least 20 ropes :eek:

Well, that aside, since void magic is so uncommon (1 in a milenia?) and so powerful, it's only normal Louise needs a lot of time to master it...
After all, no one around has experience for Void magic and to date there's no data on how to use it, no one to teach her. I guess though that they'll find some trick to help
her mastering part of it quickly.

What I really miss is to see a square mage in action, probably the only category able
to approach Louise's potential. So basically we would have a high power and control of that power, versus Louise's tremendous power and no control...

[Kraco]

Louise has that book. And she used a bit fancier void magic when she defeated the ghoul prince who was about to kidnap the princess. Though I don't remember the specifics, so maybe it was also nothing but a good explosion. But during that time it was demonstrated perfectly how Louis needs a (meat) shield while she weaves the magic and that glorious role belongs to Saito.

[shinta|hikari]

@Oyabin - If that were the case, they would have to rename the show to something other than "Zero" no Tsukaima. Well, if you think about it, she has pulled off I think 2 spells effectively, and one on intention, so technically Zero wouldnt apply even now.

Personally, I only want her to be able to use her magic once in a season, as long as it destroys an entire army, or maybe a castle. That would fit her character best, I think.

[oyabun]

Exactly!!!

[animus]

Episode 11 XviD - YourMom (http://66.90.118.104/007/allowed_torrents/872039973_%5BYour-Mom%5D_Zero_no_Tsukaima_2nd_Season_-_11_XVID_%5B1B6F23AF%5D.avi.torrent)
Episode 11 h264 - YourMom (http://66.90.118.104/007/allowed_torrents/1141486256_%5BYour-Mom%5D_Zero_no_Tsukaima_2nd_Season_-_11_H264_%5BEDA3CA27%5D.mkv.torrent)

[Yukimura]

This was the penultimate episode!? Apparently they're not going to resolve the non romance part of the plot at all then. Well, the fanservice was fun, though this is a far cry from the goodness of the first season.

[Kraco]

This series has seriously started to rot. It's hard to even imagine this is still supposed to be the same story as the first season.

Sad. Just sad.

[Kraco]

Actually it's good it's over. Who knows how low it would have fallen if it had been allowed to continue:

Episode 12 Final h264 - Your-Mom (http://66.90.118.104/007/allowed_torrents/1629384939_%5BYour-Mom%5D_Zero_no_Tsukaima_2nd_Season_-_12_-_END_-_H264_%5B1A968BA1%5D.mkv.torrent)
Episode 12 Final xvid - Your-Mom (http://66.90.118.104/007/allowed_torrents/1142945894_%5BYour-Mom%5D_Zero_no_Tsukaima_2nd_Season_-_12_-_END_-_XVID_%5BD2AC6C44%5D.avi.torrent)

[Yukimura]

I can't believe I'm actually going to wait for the SS-Ayu and burn this...other than the fanservice and Colbert's backstory did anything actually happen in these 12 episodes?

[Kraco]

Well, well, finally it's over. This last episode at least offered a little remedy for Saito but I can't say it would have offered anything else. I was getting seriously pissed off with his "run and don't die" attitude - and then he himself tries to get himself killed with a no-plan attack. Seriously, these 12 episodes would have been better off never made. And like you said, so little happened that it's amazing in itself. I at least expected them to get the ring finally back but they never even faced the witch who stole it. Unbelievable.

[Ryllharu]

I keep hearing how dramatically better the novels are, but no of those critics go out of their way to help Baka-Tsuki translate the novels. They're too focused on the Haruhi light novels. If I knew any Japanese, I'd probably be working out the chapters.

There wasn't a whole lot to this season. It was mostly fluff. I did enjoy it, but it lacked the focus they had last season, a developed plot, and anything else other than fanservice. Actually, the Saito x Louise S&M humor was much improved compared to last season. From what I've read (material only partway through season 1 of the anime), Saito's mind is a lot more perverted in the novels, and it reflected well this season. The scene where Agnes burst into their room early in the season to see Louise mounted on top of Saito, panting still makes me laugh.

[animus]

I like how the introduction of Louise's sisters which have such huge heads in the intro which emphasize importance have almost nothing to do at all in these 12 episodes.

And by the looks of it no season 2 I'm guessing. How long did the mangas/books go for? That elf plot device was ridiculous, but atleast she was hot.

[David75]

Well, the silly "I'm dead, but I'm not" plot was obvious from the start...
We don't know exactly what happened with the army, maybe the power of the potion controlling the guys faded at the right time... In fact I don't care since there's no meaning in Saito being alive.

At least the very last scene had me a very large grin :D

Just a shame the combat scene was so short and in the last ep also. Saito showed nice movements. And he said exactly what we're all thinking "Why didn't I do this before"

[Yukimura]

Well the last ep was kind of funny, so it wasn't a total waste, but it's the same joke over and over and even I eventually get tired of it. I"m much more interested in whatever was previewed after the credits. Nanoha StrikerS is almost over and that show looked like it could slack my need for Magical Girls pretty well.

[Death BOO Z]

well, during my few days at home, I downloaded the 2nd season and wathced it all...
my thoughts?

Best part of the series is obviously Colbert's story. a decent plot done in an extraordinary way. too bad the musketeer girl never showed what she learned from it, but who cares...

Other than that, most of the series was just stalling for time, none of the side charecters got enough development to explain it's role in the story (mainly Julios, who had 2 lines limit for every episode, but also the rest). I can understand that the charecters from last season are in to inforce the conuinity, but there's no excuse for slacking off with the new ones...

Despite that, I liked the theme of not fighting, it's a refreshing attitude that represnts more modren values, and they cared to make notice that Saito has no reason to care about the two countries, other than the fact the people he cares about live in one.

more so, I enjoyed the way they portraid the 'good guys', espically since thier action were complerly similar to those that the 'bad guys' would have done if given the chance, just shows that life's a bitch and then you die. the princess asked louise to lay ruin of a fortress, AKA. cheat with her invicible magic user. Louise failed and got to know that the enemy was even a more decent guy than the person she was dating (who else thought the princess would end up with the dragon rider from the 2nd kingdom?), and had good morals to top it.

FAR too much fanservice, which was hardly even good fanservice.. they just stalled for time...

I liked the cutscene, though, step by step they start showing the neko Louise, and i've been thinking "what's with the furr panties?"... too bad Louise's idea got nowhere... it could have at least been funny...


is there a 3rd season planned?

[Kraco]

Despite that, I liked the theme of not fighting, it's a refreshing attitude that represnts more modren values, and they cared to make notice that Saito has no reason to care about the two countries, other than the fact the people he cares about live in one.


I might have tolerated the don't fight a little better, considering Saito is Japanese, if it had been don't fight, because... but now it was just don't fight repeated a hundred times. It's not like the Japanese wouldn't fight if North Korea suddenly attacked. It was totally stupid and unbelievable of Saito not to be able to project that much.

[Death BOO Z]

is there an episode name list somewhere? I'm planning to burn the anime into DVD tonight, and i'm not entierly in the mood to write down the titles, not when I can copy paste everything from the web...

[Ryllharu]

http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4915

Full listing of the names of each episode.

[Death BOO Z]

I might have tolerated the don't fight a little better, considering Saito is Japanese, if it had been don't fight, because... but now it was just don't fight repeated a hundred times. It's not like the Japanese wouldn't fight if North Korea suddenly attacked. It was totally stupid and unbelievable of Saito not to be able to project that much.

what's wrong with simply don't fight. Saito doesn't have a reason to fight, he wouldn't have even fought unless he had the familiar powers (he never trains, he never shows any intrest in tactics, he hardly touched the sword this season). He fights becuase he can fight, he fights becuase it's easier for him to fight and kill than to think and conversate.
The moment he decided that he shouldn't fight, he made his life much harder (if boh he and louise were around, they could've used the power of love to kill everybody), more than that, when the anime diverts itself from action, it gives the viewer the time to focus on the plot, like the part that the good guys (queen) is the one making the agression towards the bad guys, and that the army is taking shelter in the school and making it into a military institute, and there was probably a reason why the evil witch told the army to take away the food from the captured town (though, the true reason was probably cencored).

that aside... the sister with the pink hair and the big breasts had a terminal disease, didn't she? and that's why she wasn't next in line for marrige, right?

[animus]

The action took a sidetrack to plot development? What plot development? They're about the same as the end of the 1st season, after a full season of 12 episodes. The only thing this season did was introduce Anies, Louise's 2 sisters, Saito's shitty boring pacifist whining, Colbert's death and past. There's prob a bit more, but there seriously wasn't much of anything in these episodes besides drawn out S&M humour and ecchi moments.

[Death BOO Z]

which is exactly why you need to focus on all the small parts, since the charecter based plot was so inexistent...
I'm not saying that it was good, or even made on purpose (more likely that they were just lazy about trying to get the plot somewhere), but it's still a chance to focus on less relevent (or less intersting) points, which was the overall politics of the anime.
the fact that the queen gave in to the army's idea of being offensive, the fact that she used civilians in order to attack and spy at the enemy (I can't remember the exact term, but i'm pretty sure it's condemed by the Genova treaty), the fact that the bad army took the food with them (I thought that they wanted to make the tristan army steal food from the citizens and create a rising against them), and the nobles unexplained desire to get themselves killed for no good reason...

sure, It's been a turn for the worse from the first season (which wasn't a masterpiece by itself), but it's not completly horrible...

also, the part with Anies riding Colberts back was a complete ripoff/homage/remake of Trigun 06 - when the girl from July is taken by Vash.. Trigun is probably the best anime ever...

[animus]

Because carrying a girl on your back from a destroyed village is totally original?

[Death BOO Z]

I'm not sure what you're remarking off, so I'll answer anything..
it's an homage/remake/ripoff becuase it feels the same way, I can't pinpoint everything, but I think it's something about 'camera' angles, or lengh of 'shots' inside the panel, I'm guessing it's more a technical/visual recogniziton than anything else...

I'm not sure the Trigun was the first series to use this plotline (hero 'accidently' destroys city, hero saves girl, girl comes to kill hero later on), but I cannot remember any other series to do so..

and Trigun is the best simply becuase it is the best. and probably since it was the first serious anime i've seen after Dragon Ball Z...

[Kraco]

the fact that the queen gave in to the army's idea of being offensive,

They were practically speaking in a war already. Albion had tried to kidnap their ruler (the queen), which under absolute monarchy is the same thing as attacking the country itself. It is said that offense is the best defense. And furthermore, some wise man has once said that in a war making no decision is much worse than making the wrong decision.


the fact that she used civilians in order to attack and spy at the enemy (I can't remember the exact term, but i'm pretty sure it's condemed by the Genova treaty),

Civilians in a total war is a pretty hypocritical idea anyway (just look at Iraq). And it's not like spies could wear uniforms anyway. They are spies, after all. Besides, I doubt that medieval alternate dimension has ever heard of any Geneva Convention.


the fact that the bad army took the food with them (I thought that they wanted to make the tristan army steal food from the citizens and create a rising against them),

That would have been nice. But in reality they probably only wanted to deplete Tristan's resources and make their supply lines more strained as they knew they wouldn't let the conquered citizens starve. The Queen is a much nicer person than the witch ruling Albion.


and the nobles unexplained desire to get themselves killed for no good reason...

They had a good reason. It was to fight for their Queen and their country. If you get familiar with the concept of Noblesse oblige (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige) you will understand why, idealistically, they behaved just like nobles should have.

Saito was written to be too stupid here (it could have been he was too worried for his loved one, Louise, and lost his mind, but it didn't give me that kind of impression. After all, he was chasing all the women all the time, so he's not that much in love with Louise, just somewhat). In Japan that Noblesse oblige was probably stronger than anywhere with the samurai who were a social class of their own above the mundane people but who were always willing to lay down their life for their daimyo and their honour without a moment's hesitation (idealistically anyway but oft in practice as well). Makes Saito a pretty poor Japanese not to know even that...

[Death BOO Z]

Civilians in a total war is a pretty hypocritical idea anyway (just look at Iraq). And it's not like spies could wear uniforms anyway. They are spies, after all. Besides, I doubt that medieval alternate dimension has ever heard of any Geneva Convention.



well, neither Satio nor Louise were 'drafted' to the army, and she did tell them that they could use thier identity as students to get themselves out of trouble. don't forget, the two kingdoms were in a state of truce.
I'm not innocent to say that they should fight one-on-one at the battlefield like idiots, and I'm not saying spying is 'bad'. I'm just pointing out that the good kingdom is just as "cheap" as the bad kingdom. which means that Saito has no moral reason to become an offensive soldier for the kingdom.




They had a good reason. It was to fight for their Queen and their country. If you get familiar with the concept of Noblesse oblige (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige) you will understand why, idealistically, they behaved just like nobles should have.



stupid nobles and thier inbreeding, it makes them stupid.



Saito was written to be too stupid here (it could have been he was too worried for his loved one, Louise, and lost his mind, but it didn't give me that kind of impression. After all, he was chasing all the women all the time, so he's not that much in love with Louise, just somewhat). In Japan that Noblesse oblige was probably stronger than anywhere with the samurai who were a social class of their own above the mundane people but who were always willing to lay down their life for their daimyo and their honour without a moment's hesitation (idealistically anyway but oft in practice as well). Makes Saito a pretty poor Japanese not to know even that...


actually, he did the smaurai thing. he saved his master's life, and then got himself killed for disobeying her.


Saito was hardly wrriten this season, other than the usual pervertness, which is a shame, but it's not like he was the deepest charecter before...

is there a 3rd season planned?

[Kraco]

actually, he did the smaurai thing. he saved his master's life, and then got himself killed for disobeying her.

Aye, he did at the end, which is of course a good thing. But I find it hard to accept that the very last episode would compensate for all the nasty ones before it. Besides, Saito might have accepted that principle, in a way, for himself but it doesn't really look like he would have accepted it for Louise. That makes sense from the point of view of him protecting his woman but it's unfortunately also very disrespectful, considering she is a noble who knows her own worth and responsibities very strongly.

[David75]

Aye, he did at the end, which is of course a good thing. But I find it hard to accept that the very last episode would compensate for all the nasty ones before it. Besides, Saito might have accepted that principle, in a way, for himself but it doesn't really look like he would have accepted it for Louise. That makes sense from the point of view of him protecting his woman but it's unfortunately also very disrespectful, considering she is a noble who knows her own worth and responsibities very strongly.

In other words, Saito is a macho that doesn't understand women can lead their own lives and go to the front line when needed. Am I correct?

[Kraco]

Nah, I don't think so. I wrote he might have accepted it, but I don't think he really did. He just made an easy and weak choice imagining he did something great. It's well illustrated by the way how he, for most of the series, preached the virtue of not fighting unnecessarily and staying alive but at the end he thought he would randomly sacrifice his own life to save others. That's not any true strength. It just shows he has no bloody idea what he was talking about for most of the time and he was just throwing his life away without a clear plan in a momentary thrill of the idea of martyrdom.

Till the very end Saito just couldn't comprehend that the nobles are privileged under normal circumstances because under abnormal circumstances they must be ready to lie down their lives to protect the kingdom, even against impossible odds. Without second thoughts.

Honestly, macho doesn't represent Saito. A baka dog, though, is very fitting.

[Death BOO Z]

Kraco, you're setting the bar far too high, Saito is a 12 years old idiot, not a 20+ scholar.

as for what you said about nobles, I have to call bullshit on that.\

in the anime, Nobles are mages, who have much better chance of survivng than any of the melee frontline commoners troops.

in the real world, common soldiers would have been lucky to recieve a helmet from the 'army', they'd have to loot one from a dead soldier (friend or foe) after the battle. Nobles, on the other hand, had full plate armor and a medic standing next to them. more so, if they fell in prison, they'd still be given the luxcury of servents, and even that's until the prisoners exchange is done, when they'll be released back to thier families in no time, and transported by the 'enemy'. Normal exchange troops would have to walk back home, a matter of several months, or even years.

Novillity is just a form of the powerful keeping the power in their own hands, there's nothing "noble"about it.

baka dog is fine, but he's just a charecter that never outgrew his initial 'supergift' to make the ending satysfinig.

he came to the world, recived a set amount of super powers, and died when confronted with something stronger, no charecter growth, no perssonal development.

[Kraco]

Heh. What you say is indeed true. I was just talking about the idealistic situation. It's not entirely irrelevant in this case, though, because Louise seemed to honestly believe in that and was trying to act in accordance to it, even if it was in a large scale affected by the enormous respect she had for the Queen.

Still, you are mistaken if you think the wars were nothing but sport for the nobles and nothing changed no matter who lost. The nobles had to arrange the armies to be there and it has never been irrelevant who won and who lost. Nor did the nobles always keep their heads. The real world is no anime where the enemies are left alive as a rule.

[Death BOO Z]

Idealistic situation is when people aren't involved in wars, and when the army doesn't forcefuly draft 12 years old and turns school into a military trainning camp.

compare the war to racing cars, people often die during it (I'm not so much intrested in the sport, but i'm guessing someone dies every two years, on avarge?), but that condition is 'accepted' by the participants and the viewers.

War sucks. even without getting to the argument whether certein wars were justified (and they were).

[jaguar04p]

Third season of 0nT confirmed, Air Date not known

[animus]

Ugh, let's not hope it's the same lame crap for 11 episodes and try to funnel everything at the end to a weak finale.

[Death BOO Z]

third time's the charm?

maybe something good will happen, though not likely.
Jag, can you link to the announcement (english source, not the japanese original)

[Kraco]

The third season started and the first sub is out:

Episode 1 - Minori-Osu! (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=9393)

If Anirena times out, try the Mininova page (http://www.mininova.org/tor/1574177).

[Kraco]

Isn't this series getting a higher class subber at all?

Episode 2 - Minori-Osu! (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=9855)

[High Wind]

How's the overall quality on the Minori-Osu subs? I haven't seen any other subs by the groups so i have no frame of reference as to their work.

[Ryllharu]

Isn't this series getting a higher class subber at all?
I think after the disaster that was ZnT 2, subbers don't want to bother with this one.

[David75]

I think after the disaster that was ZnT 2, subbers don't want to bother with this one.

Speaking of which, did someone try those first 2 eps from season 3 and have an opinion?
Because even though I have gazillions of disk space, I do not want to spoil it like I did with season 2, eventhough I watched it fully in some kind of masochist state :cool:

[Kraco]

Season 2's beginning wasn't so bad, if you check back to the posts from those times. I did and noticed I thought it started promisingly. Likewise, these two first eps of season 3 have been promising and pretty funny in my opinion. However, I will retain the right to be skeptic until I've watched the last episode of the season. The second season taught me that much.

Well, if these two eps hadn't been promising at all, I wouldn't be wishing for a decent subber. I wouldn't be able to speak enough Japanese to save my life if stranded in Japan, and so when I find myself disagreeing with a subber, it's not a good sign.

[David75]

Reading your comments, Kraco, I did give it a try.
I do hope they get serious at key moments, with flashy fights, it may happen... or at least the door is open for that.
Average ecchiness of the show is still very present, but it isn't that bad when it's not the only thing there is in the ep.

[Kraco]

Well, well... Who would have thought we would get these two subbing this series as well?

Episode 1 HD - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2001%20(1280x720%20h264)%20%5b9B3DBD00%5d.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 1 xvid - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2001%20(XviD)%20%5b173CE718%5d.avi.torrent)

[David75]

[Minori-Osu!] Zero no Tsukaima - Princess no Rondo - 03 (h264 1024x576) [38C290A4] mkv 175Mb @ mininova (http://www.mininova.org/get/1620366)

we'll see...

[Idealistic]

Well, well... Who would have thought we would get these two subbing this series as well?

Episode 1 HD - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2001%20(1280x720%20h264)%20%5b9B3DBD00%5d.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 1 xvid - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2001%20(XviD)%20%5b173CE718%5d.avi.torrent)

Ep 2 and 3 subbed yet?

[animus]

Not by SS-Eclipse no

[Ryllharu]

You're right about episode 3, but they subbed episode 2 on the 19th:

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[Munsu]

Just watched season 2 of the series... wasn't as bad as you guys made it out ot be. I think you guys have the wrong expectations of this show, and are way overrating the first season. The second season was as good as the first season, which doesn't say much in my opinion. I mean, you guys are complaining about the episode in which Colbert died? Come on... Sure, it had one or two crappy episodes towards the end, but that's about it. The rest was quite enjoyable, at least most of it.

Will start the third season next week hopefully.

[Ryllharu]

I believe most people were complaining about the entire second half of season 2. Between people complaining about cut-outs from the novels (Saito getting a much more...suggestive experience from Henrietta, etc) and the entire last war arc being as horribly compressed as the final episodes from season 1 (which a lot of people complained about then too)...there were a lot of different complaints thrown around.

The end of the first season felt incredibly rushed, and the entire latter half of season 2 got the same treatment.

The buzz from fans of the novels raised a lot of expectations for this franchise, and both seasons 1 and 2 disappointed a lot of people. I loved the first season, but the second season completely soured for me. Too many third party characters got introduced and were never really developed. One in particular never really got a name until the very end (Sheffield) and she is only now being developed in season 3.

Given that season 2 was not well received during its run, most of us were not expecting a season 3. That made the unexplained parts towards the end of season 2 that much worse.

[Yukimura]

Lol. If you look at both seasons from the perspective that the franchise is a typical fanservice riddled harem comedy about a typical harem loser, and a bunch of typical haremettes playing out a typical story then both seasons are pretty much equal in how little they resemble say Seirei no Moribito or some other 'good' anime. If you don't buy into either on a level above what they appear to be then they will both satisfy on that level.

However, I recall marked differences in the quality of the story telling and the quality of the characterizations between the first and second seasons. I don't see anything wrong with caring about these elements even when watching a typical harem-comedy and if one does so one should notice the difference between the two seasons.

In season 2 just about everything seemed laughable from the actual jokes to the treatment of more serious content like war and death and even love. However, in season 1 while things were still generally laughable they at least managed to foster a better and more believable sense of emotional involvement (compared to season 2 not Seirei no Moribito).

Season 1 certainly isn't going to win any prizes, but when I watched it I was entertained, emotionally engaged, and excited about the prospect of a season 2. When season 2 was over I was entertained but I was relieved I wouldn't have to spend any more time on the series since I wasn't really engaged in the story by then.

A hamburger may taste like a hamburger when you're hungry for filet mignon, but when you're hungry for a hamburger McDonalds doesn't taste like Five Guys.

[Munsu]

I guess the negativity describing the second season was exaggerated in my opinion. The storytelling aspects of the first season were marginally better... not enough to just label the second season as a complete failure as I've seen many around categorizing it as such. Sure it was underwhelming in some aspects, but it wasn't much of a departure from what Zero no Tsukaima had already established itself as. The first season might look a bit better because it's all new and refreshing, but when you sit down and take a look at it as a whole, it suffered from many of the same things that the second season suffered from.

From season 2, I only recall 3 episodes that I didn't like... the Underground document one, and episodes 10 and 11. The rest where fairly enjoyable and consistant with the rest. Sure not many of the new characters were well developed, but at the expense of what would you have them develop them? At the other side of the equation, if they had developed them, we'd probably hear a lot of complains about them getting too much screen time.

Anyways, my comments are stemming from the exeggerated negativity the second season received. It wasn't great, but it wasn't abysmal either... when I look at all the complains about the Colbert's dying episode, which was quite decent if not good, it tells me that many had expected too much from this series and it summizes to me how unfairly this season was judged (and it summizes my disagreements with the conclusions of others regarding the season).

It's like a setting up a straw man argument... people focus on one small fraction that bothered them about an episode/series, in an attempt to draw a conclusion on it. From looking at how the comments for the series were, people were fairly happy with the first half... then a couple of bad episodes came, and suddenly it's all worth garbage. Don't see a lot of validity in these kinds of judgements. Just because we get a couple of disapointing episode is not enough to make the season a disapointment in my opinion.

That's my take on the situation. On to season 3.

[Ryllharu]

I felt that most of the problems could have been solved by simply making the series a full 26 eps series rather than the short, half-season.

ARIA after all was three seasons as well, 13 and then 26 and then 13 again. The middle season allowed them to get in the overwhelming majority of the material in, and allowed the writers to finish up and polish everything off neatly in the third season. If they had simply made either season 1 or season 2 of ZnT a little longer (it would have helped season 2 more), then I do not see where any of my complaints would exist. I cannot say a whole lot for the complaints of others though.

Moving on...
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I'm certainly liking the stupidity of Saito always staring at Tiffania's breasts to the dismay of both Louise and Siesta, but I am wondering what is going to happen with Tiffania if she really turns out to be the third void mage in the series.

Which does bring me to a problem. We were under the impression that *a* Void Mage appeared only a few hundred or thousands of years. I could understand Sheffield's master being another one, but Tiffania being a third extends a bit too far over my suspension of disbelief of the history that the series itself laid out.

It is a fantasy series, so I suppose I can ignore it for the most part, but it still bothers me.

Anyway...moving back to Tiffania, I wonder if she will pick up her own familiar. The little song she sang does hint at something though. The Gandalfr is the left hand of the void mage and a warrior and shiled, and the other, the right hand, Windalfr is kind at heart.

Seeing that we've already got a Gandalfr, and a Frzzugabstulblatz (whatever the hell Sheffield is), I wonder if Tiffania will just become Louise's Windalfr, or if some one else...*cough* Siesta *cough* will become Tiffania's Windalfr and her familiar.

[Yukimura]

Lol good fun this ep, and Tiffania is certainly more than she seemed, though it was kind of obvious she ws going to be important just because she is a new character and she's in the OP.

One thing about this series that still gets on my nerves is the seeming lack of sufficient back story for the bad guys as well as the world the story takes place in outside of Tristain (Trysting or whatever SS-Eclpse is using just looks weird). Who is this Albionion royal guy who's pretending to be incompetent? Do we know him already or is he new? I've never been able to glean a good picture of the politics of the world ZnT, especially the Albionions who seem to be the major adversaries of the story since so often the serious discussions are overshadowed or interrupted by random Typical Harem Moments :(

[Dark Dragon]

Who is this Albionion royal guy who's pretending to be incompetent? Do we know him already or is he new? I've never been able to glean a good picture of the politics of the world ZnT, especially the Albionions who seem to be the major adversaries of the story since so often the serious discussions are overshadowed or interrupted by random Typical Harem Moments :(

I was having WTF moments with this new season "villian" until yesterday when i rewatch some of the older episodes with a friend.

It could just faulty subbing but from my understanding the new villian is from Galia and not Albion.

At the end of episode 2 Shefield refers to him as "Joseph-Sama"

Episode 10 of the first season, we learn that Tabitha is from the Galian royal family.

The current king of Galia name Joseph is Tabitha's Uncle. Tabitha father death and mother going insane was apparently caused by Joseph or his followers.

It seems we are going to get some more back story on Tabitha this season so there's some potential to be good.

[Ryllharu]

We've gotten a good amount of Tabitha's backstory already (thanks Dark Dragon for all the reminders), so where is all of Kirche's background? I recall her mentioning something about the reasons she was studying here and not in her homecountry as well. Of course those reasons were never expanded upon.

[Yukimura]

After spoiling myself something fierce on Wikipedia I confirmed I was wrong about Joeseph. He is King of Galia not Albion, I must have read it wrong. I think he did say that Tristain, Albion, and Germania were coming to meet with him to try and take over his country so it stands to reason he's not from Albion.

Tabatha is also from Galia and from what I remember of season two she's got an interesting past there.

[Kraco]

Just the right temperature:

Episode 4 HD - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2004%20(1280x720%20h264)%20%5b1645DB64%5d.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 4 SD - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2004%20(XviD)%20%5bCB70C11C%5d.avi.torrent)


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A somewhat low content episode what comes to the greater plot but funny enough otherwise. Things move just as slowly between Saito and Louise as always.

[oyabun]

I find this season's face much better than the previous season... Maybe the addition of Tiffa "gift" was the cause?...

[oyabun]

Here you go. Episode 7 by Osu!

http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=12148

[Kraco]

Episode 6 - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2006%20(1280x720%20h264)%20%5b70A927CF%5d.mkv.tor rent)

Mostly recycled material (not flashbacks but the plot), but a couple of minutes of it could have some significance. Still, the bigger plot of the season really should appear more often, instead of these random events.

[Kraco]

Zero familiarity:

Episode 7 h264 - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2007%20(1280x720%20h264)%20%5b8AF4DFE1%5d.mkv.tor rent)
Episode 7 xvid - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2007%20(XviD)%20%5bE505D8F0%5d.avi.torrent)




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Edit: Hmm... I thought that guy was dead. My memory surely isn't what it used to be... Or maybe he's a zombie. That would be cool.

[David75]

Episode 8 on anirena by Osu! but not in HD

[Osu!]_Zero_no_Tsukaima_-_Princess_no_Rondo_-_08_(h264_848x480)_[98E695B4].mkv 185 Mb @ anirena (http://tracker.anirena.com/download2.php?id=12656)

[Death BOO Z]

I'm an idiot.
I have time to watch anime, and this is what I choose to watch.
I could be re-watching berserk, of checking some of the new and awesome animes that came out since 2006, but I choose to watch re-tales of ranma.

(impressions, after 5 episodes).
the loss of the musketeer story from season2 has caused great impact on the story total IQ count. it's now below 0.000000001 combined.

it seems like no one can keep talking about the same subject for more than two sentences. and no one cares about anything other than the half elf (did I mention that I hate anime elves even more than I hate anime vampires and fantasy elves?).

I know I'm not the target audience (I'm twice the target audience age, more likely), but seriously, are kids buying into it?

I think that the moment I started getting into breasts was the exact moment I stopped caring about cute things. them Japanese need some purieten republicans in the anime industry.
enough random rants, more to the point.

the season is bailing out of each potential point of interest. again.
instead of letting Saito and Louise dealing with the new situation ("oMG! we aren't magically connected anymore! we might need to put some effort into each other!), they bail out and go for the worst solution possible.

The order of pussy knights, rather than continuing the 'serious' tone of last season (life's a bitch and then you die. and get resuscitation by a girl with huge knockers!), they become the order of pussy knights.

instead of keeping bitch#1 a whiny bitch, they turn her personality 180* around, so she could show more skin.

not to mention that they never show any decent character from season 1 anymore (everybody from s2 has died, anyways), other than the idiots.

biggest bail out of all, has to be the re-telling of Saito's epic battle against the hordes of foreigners. the sword magically transports him away. case closed, nobody cares to ask anything about it (such as: "since when can you do it?")

future plot:

we all know that bitch #1 is void user, and bitch #2 is her thought-to-be-dead mother, why not say it already and get it over with? even if not, stop the school drama, it's a 13 episode series, push the plot forward.

more in the future, when I catch up with the current episode.

[Kraco]

Don't worry, DBZ. Episode 8 reveals such a gigantic plot device that it will wipe other plot inconsistencies from your mind for good. This series is so incoherent that if it was told every episode had actually its plot written by a different person who knew nothing about the plots of previous episodes, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[Death BOO Z]

I stand corrected. the wrecked off the only good story they made. shit, shit, shit!
(it's one thing to kill the best character in the story, but to bring him back?!)
did Tabitha even appear in those episodes?

have to stop ranting... stop ranting, change direction...

so, they built a ff airship B-52 bomber? heck, it's been a while since we saw any modern day items in the series (since the end of season 1, if I recall correctly), too bad that the two fire mages couldn't produce a decent relationship between them (one that isn't crap in a crapburger).

god, three episodes, and maybe 15 minutes of plot, which can be summarized into "bitch can magic", "other bitch knows about the third bitch being a bitch", "bastard ain't dead!" and "we found the hanger where the climax will take place at".

while the last scene explains why everybody coward away when they see elves, I still hate it. no chanting, the girl and the dragon didn't even put up a fight, I'd be fine if the girl could get a scratch on the pussy's face, but that's too much to ask for. I hate anime elves.

honorable mention of suckage - teacher mage falls to hypnobell like all the rest, wasn't she supposed to be at least half decent?

screw this, I'm too damn old for this ranma cloning

[Pandadice]

hey, the ~Princess no Rondo~ OVA is out subbed by [SubDESU]

[SubDESU] Zero no Tsukaima ~Princess no Rondo~ OVA torrent mp4 (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20~Princess%20no%20Rondo~%20O VA%20%5BSubDESU-Osu!%5D.mp4.torrent)

I'm downloading it now.

[Kraco]

This ova, folks, is rougly 100 times better than the series itself, and definitely worth watching. It has none of the stupid "story" the last two seasons of the series tried to present failing miserably. Instead, it's all fanservice and comedy.

It has even got tentacles!

[David75]

167Mb, for an ova? is it 25 minutes, or the 60 minutes format?
Because if the later, well quality is bad is it?

Thanks for the reply ;)

[Pandadice]

its like 24ish minutes. quality seemed fine to me.

[David75]

Like Kraco:
Go straight to the point, if you can't do a proper scenario, just get rid of it and do pantsu and ecchi all the way!:D

[Kraco]

Here's a better version (gotta see all the hot details...):

Princess no Rondo OVA - SS-Eclipse (http://torrents.no-sekai.de/eclipse/%5bSS-Eclipse%5d%20Zero%20no%20Tsukaima%20-%20Princess%20no%20Rondo%20-%2006.5%20(h264)%20%5bE07D8DCA%5d.mkv.torrent)

[Death BOO Z]

special note: (the only thing I noticed before my mind exploded from all the breasts)
the fat kid looks more rough and manly now, he got himself a decent jawline.


they should have kept the octopus an eel for maximum fanservice.

I could say something else, but that would be wasting air... download. watch. delete. or better yet: porn.

[Ryllharu]

When they first mentioned the beach, I thought Siesta might be the one wearing the school "priestess outfit" because of her experience with the school uniform from an earlier season, but then I knew it would end up being Tabitha.

I think the part I liked best was Tifa licking the seawater and her ears wiggling up and down with pleasure.

[Archangel]

I just started this and the first episode was pretty fun

God, what is it Rie Kugimiya and loli characters ??? Is this one a tsundere too?

[Ryllharu]

God, what is it Rie Kugimiya and loli characters ??? Is this one a tsundere too?
There is a reason the phrase, "Rie Kugimiya character" (or similar) exists. It is not to say that she doesn't do other types of characters, Alphonse Elric being one of her most well known. But there are really only a handful of her roles that aren't lolis, and the majority of those are tsunderes.

[Archangel]

I've read comments on how the series gets worse progressively with each new season, is this true? And the guy stops being useless eventually?

[Pandadice]

I've read comments on how the series gets worse progressively with each new season, is this true? And the guy stops being useless eventually?

well, i thought the first season was pretty awesome. the second was much less cool, but it still had its moments, and the ending was pretty awesome. but then the third? no, i wouldn't even bother watching it, honestly.

[Archangel]

Ok, now for a much more important question:

- In 3 seasons, does this guy EVER change his outfit?

[Kraco]

No, not really. He must like his gear a lot.

However, he isn't a useless guy. He even has some cool moments. Some have been mentioned in this very thread, I believe.

[Archangel]

I've been weary of reading the comments since i spoiled myself of Colbert's death here

Btw wtf is up with Eclipse's raws? They're all censored! Where can i can the DVD edition?

Oh God, episode 8... I literally screamed LAME! ( in portuguese ). What a dick move, and the way they explained it...

[Archangel]

Ok, so here it is:

Season 1

Pretty entertaining. I was annoyed on how i called every single event before it happened for being so obvious and cliché but the comedy was good, the action scenes were nicely animated and the romance was developing nicely.

Season 2

Meh... They decided to take action to add more harem i guess because the otakus bring the big bucks, but they hurt the series in a very bad way by doing so. Especially in the last episode, it was like they were rubbing it in our faces saying: "This is what you've been missing all along, enjoy <3!"

Another thing that bothered me was how they almost completely abandoned the characters from the last season so they could develop the new ones. There was no need for that, they could have played a role here too without stealing the thunder.

Even after being spoiled, Colbert's death really added a serious tone that the show was lacking but... well, YA KNOW!

They also did a pretty lame portrayal of what a war is supposed to be, the moments of tension ( apart from the last episode ) were null. On that subject, the fairy with the huge knockers was a great excuse since it had been mentioned before and it had me laughing for a good while

Season 3

Season 2, with enhanced problems.

After 3 seasons the jokes are getting stale and the tsundere is getting ridiculous: You've said you love him like 10 times and kissed 100, get over it.
On the other hand the maid never gets old, she just goes at it harder and harder with each passing episode and i love it.

Action scenes... remember those? They sure were awesome back in the day. After the last episode of the second season i was hoping for A LOT more.
And what's with this counter haxx? As soon as 1 guys uses it then every enemy has it and it can only be broken by void magic... what the hell did they do before void magic was discovered a couple of months ago???

Obviously my biggest bitch was bringing Colbert back in that lame ( LAME ) way and with a hint of pedo in him too...

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This is why i hate catching this shows after they aired, i got all this stuff to discuss but nobody to discuss it with. Anybody care to indulge me even after all this time? There's a cookie in it for you

[David75]

Well, there isn't much to say.
The show was interresting in the beggining and really turned awful.
I do not remember many things, but they didn't really develop the huge void attack Louise can output when in sync with the guy.
They've been from a show with some magic, mysteries and nice contrast beetween our world and a magical world stuck in a semi-medieval time, to almost nothing of interrest.

[Ryllharu]

You should probably read the novels then. They are fairly popular still, and I read the first one translated by Baka-Tsuki. They are considerably different from the toned-down anime seasons, so start from the beginning.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Zero_no_Tsukaima

[Archangel]

You should probably read the novels then. They are fairly popular still, and I read the first one translated by Baka-Tsuki. They are considerably different from the toned-down anime seasons, so start from the beginning.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Zero_no_Tsukaima

Would reading the manga have the same effect? I hate reading off wiki, had the same problem with fate/zero

[Archangel]

Something fun i found, might please some fans

Zero No Tsukaima - I say Yes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0kLTcAkQNM)

[Pandadice]

whoa, that was awesome. thanks man.

i wonder if they did a version of the full song, in stead of just the 1:30 TV version?

[Archangel]

Zero no Tsukaima's Final Series Gets TV Anime in October (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-08-20/zero-no-tsukaima-final-series-gets-tv-anime-in-october)

And

Zero no Tsukaima to End in 22nd Volume in 2012 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-02-21/zero-no-tsukaima-to-end-in-22nd-volume-in-2012)

If both news are true, then i guess we'll be looking at a long ass 4th season

[Kraco]

Let's hope Saito really gets some already like select fans expect according to Sankaku.

[Death BOO Z]

First problem with the news. the front picture is of elf-tits. I Can't believe she's still a character, and that she gets front seat in sales (I know it's not the cover of the final volume, but still).

anyway, how far along the manga was the series so far (in terms of volumes)?

[Marik]

The final fourth season won't be starting in October. The one that starts in October is Zero no Tsukaima Kessakusen, which is a selection of episodes from previous seasons.


Zero no Tsukaima light novelist Noboru Yamaguchi reported on Sunday that the previously revealed fourth season of the anime adaptation is slated for next year. He had reported earlier this week that he left the hospital without incident after his surgery this month for cancer.

Author: 4th Zero no Tsukaima Season Slated for 2012 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-08-20/author/4th-zero-no-tsukaima-season-slated-for-2012)

[Marik]

Final Zero no Tsukaima Anime Titled, Slated for January (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-09-27/final-zero-no-tsukaima-anime-titled-slated-for-january)

[Archangel]

Did this shitty last season even have a thread of its own? This was so fucking awful, i can't believe i managed to finish it.

[Kraco]

I dropped it after the first episode, if memory serves. It was simply too horrid. Although I'm pondering if I should have a look at the last episode, just to see how the story ends. I'm sure I wouldn't be particularly slowed down by missing whatever happened or didn't happen between the first and last eps...

[Archangel]

No, you wouldn't. You don't even need to watch the final episode either, just imagine to most cliché and obvious scenario and you got it.

[Ryllharu]

It was better than the previous season, at least until the final two episodes.

[Archangel]

It was better than the previous season, at least until the final two episodes.
They exist within the same spectrum of shit.