TV: Battlestar Galactica

[Darknodin]

I never saw the original series of BSG... but this new series is HOT!!! its dark, gritty and you feel their pain... there is a two-hour miniseries (pilot) before season one if you guys wanna make up your minds. right now episode 11 of season two just aired (out of 20).. and season 3 (20 eps) have been greenlighted.

so things to look for : the Miniseries (awesome, special effects are nearly movie grade although the scenes where the ships launch seem like they are reused... but they stopped doing that now)
first episode of the first season (its called 33)... INTENSE... like really really intense (i think even better than the miniseries)... then it goes down a little bit for a couple of eps, then picks up until the finale (season one is 11 eps)...

Season two is good throughout

just watch it!

[Xollence]

Yeah it's an awesome series, much better than the original. I just wish it wasn't on fridays.

[Hakeem_21]

I have been watching this show from the start and love every min of it. So many great characters and great story.

[Xollence]

What episode is it up to now? The only reason I'm still watching this is because of the actress Grace Park. I think she's a hottie.

[Munsu]

I've been meaning to download it... I'll have to wait till i get home on summer, since i can't use torrents here.

[Hakeem_21]

Thats good for you then you can watch the mini plus two hole seasons.

[DarthEnderX]

This...show...is...ass.

I don't get the appeal. Every...single...episode is both A. mindnumbingly boring, and B. cripplingly depressing. Not even taking into account where the sit around talking for 20 minutes at a time sipping champagne, every single episode something awful happens and a shitload of people die. And they never recover from it. It's not like, oh, problem, and then we solve it. It's always, Oh, problem, well, we figured out what caused it at least, but its too late now, everyones already dead, or our water is gone or what the fuck ever.

Season two had like ONE episode that was both interesting, and, for once, had some good happen in it(the end of the Pegasus arc). And it was the first episode that didn't just make me want to go to bed.

[Hakeem_21]

Its sad that you dont get what this show is about. Well its not for everyone.

[Darknodin]

Originally posted by: DarthEnder
This...show...is...ass.

I don't get the appeal. Every...single...episode is both A. mindnumbingly boring, and B. cripplingly depressing. Not even taking into account where the sit around talking for 20 minutes at a time sipping champagne, every single episode something awful happens and a shitload of people die. And they never recover from it. It's not like, oh, problem, and then we solve it. It's always, Oh, problem, well, we figured out what caused it at least, but its too late now, everyones already dead, or our water is gone or what the fuck ever.

Season two had like ONE episode that was both interesting, and, for once, had some good happen in it(the end of the Pegasus arc). And it was the first episode that didn't just make me want to go to bed.


usually, when I don't like something, I stop watching. season one was 13 eps, season 2 had 11 eps before the end of the pegasus arc and you watched all that?
at any rate, i think its normal that a show about the destruction of the human race is depressing. this is closer to reality this way. i think.

[Munsu]

Finally got around to start watching this, and I really like it. Much better than I expected. It has decent to good acting, which is very hard to find in TV Shows, that drama and story are pretty good too. The Cylons are very well done too, I was expecting some cheapass effects to animate them, but they look good. And not to say, the human-like Cylons are not bad to the eyes either. So far seen the mini series and the first 4 episodes of the first season. Hopefully I'll be caught up soon.

[Assassin]

Heh, and i was just thinking of making a thread for this. never even knew one already existed.

Anyways, i also started watching a few days ago, and i've marathoned season 1 and 2, and im nearly halfway through season 3 now. I have to say this show is awesome on many, many levels. I delayed watching this show for so long cause i originally thought it was like star trek (and i cant stand star trek). But BSG is more drama then sci-fi, which is good. I like that even though its futuristic, its also very realistic. That is to say, there are no fancy laser guns, and ships with force shields and all that jazz.

Im sort of confused about the mythology used in the show. Its obviously greek influenced, but its supposed to be pre-earth or something. I guess they're trying to say that the greek culture /religion comes from the survivors who finally find earth.

[Death13a]

But BSG is more drama then sci-fi, which is good. I like that even though its futuristic, its also very realistic. That is to say, there are no fancy laser guns, and ships with force shields and all that jazz.

And thats why i don't dare to come near that show.

[Assassin]

if you want a show with lasers and force shields, watch Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis

[Death13a]

I think i watched every single episode of Stargate(both series)

[Assassin]

rofl. you're my new best friend :p

[Munsu]

Alright, I'm finally done with season 3... I was waiting for dvdrips to come out. Man the final episode was great, especially with the music at the end, it really pumped me up.

So what do you think? You guys think that those 4, and maybe Starbuck, compose the final 5 Cylons?

Well season 4 is going to be the final season, and I think the last portion of the series is going to be shown in 2009 if not mistaken.

Starting in October 1, the Razor "minisodes" will start airing up until November 24, when the 2 part movie/mini-series airs, Razor.

The 4th season should start around February 2008.

[Assassin]

Razor miniso....wha?

whats the deal with this razor business? They're going to do another mini-series before season 4? will it be a separate thing, or is it gonna be like between season 3 and 4?

[Munsu]

The minisodes, are 3 minute episodes that will be airing all through October till November 24. On November 24 there'll be a mini-series/movie kinda like the pilot called Razor.

Season 4 will start on February 2008, there's still no concrete new on wether there'll split the season and show the final episodes in 2009.


Next episode: Razor mini-sode series
In this ten-part series, a young pilot named William Adama uncovers a Cylon weapon during the first Cylon War. Each episode will run about two to three minutes. Sci Fi Channel is calling them mini-sodes. They will air on the Sci Fi Channel in October and November 2007 as a prelude to the special two-hour event, Razor.

For more info:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0991178/
http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/show/23557/story/10190.html
http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/show/23557/story/10133.html
http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/show/23557/story/10088.html

[saman]

*shield her eyes from previous posts to avoid being spoilered*

i just started watching this show recently. was never too interested in it before, but then space started airing it again from the very beginning, so i figured i'd catch it. it's fairly good. almost had to make myself watch it the first couple of episodes because it wasn't really holding my attention, but i enjoy it now. the second season just started a couple of weeks ago.

also, stargate = <3

[Munsu]

First flashback episode (minisode) is out:
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

It seems that the clip only works in certain areas, probably only in the USA. Hopefully youtube or something will have the episode later.

These episodes will air every Friday after Flash Gordon. Here's more info on Razor and on the flashback episodes:
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/razor/

[rockmanj]

I keep forgetting about the pegasus...they were some animals. I mean was all the gang rape really necessary??

[Munsu]

For those of you not in the US, you can download the first flashback episode here:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/927410

[Munsu]

The date has been set for the premiere of season 4:


For Battlestar Galactica fans, the wait for information related to the fourth and final season of the acclaimed Sci-Fi Channel show has been nothing less than excruciating. Finally, the wait is over. Nerds and geeks looking over their shoulders for the final disguised Cylon can now mark their calendars because an official premiere date was just announced by Sci-Fi.

Season four of Battlestar Galactica will premiere on April 4, just over one year after season three concluded. (The second part of the season-three finale aired on March 25, 2007.)
http://www.tv.com/story/10680.html

As an aside, anyone seen the Razor movie yet? I haven't, so was wondering if it was any good.

[Y]

I watched Razor. It is a pretty fun sidetrack that wraps up some issues people were wondering about while acting as a teaser for Season 4. Don't expect it to do anything but add one or two new wrinkles to the plot, though, since it's entirely pre-season 4 material.

[Munsu]

Well, watched Razor... it was quite enjoyable, but nothing spectacular.

Anyways, as some of you may know already season 4, the final season, begins tomorrow.... so keep an eye out for it.

Here's something to get you in the mood in the meantime:
http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?p=374237&postcount=345

[Animeniax]

Do they use the same theme music from the original series? That music kicks ass. I think they could gain a lot of viewers by hailing to the old series. Also, do the Cylons talk with the cool machine voices like in the original series?

[Munsu]

No, to both questions.

[Kusanagi]

original series blew goats..this one is the best television series in a long time
cant wait

[Animeniax]

I think the original series compared to the new series is like Episodes 4-6 compared to Episodes 1-3 of Star Wars. The modern versions have cooler special effects, but weak storylines. Personally I prefer the more mechanized and less sleek versions of the spacecraft used in the original series.

[Assassin]

0.o

Glactica is anything but sleek. its a run down piece of shit...dirty and wet and cold

[Inazuma]

Nothing but shiny, not even cordless phones.

[Assassin]

Well the first ep of season 4 aired last nite. How many of you watcehd it?

I thought it was really intense, as always. Colonel Tie shooting Odama in the eye was fucked up....i was like "HOLY SHIT!!". And the battle was awesome too...quite a few casualties this time around. The whole thing with Anders (or is it Sanders?) hesitating, and the cylons pulling back....friggin intense.

Can't wait to see how this all turns out. And to find out what the deal is with kara.

[Kusanagi]

so...who's the 5th of the final five

and how is it some ugly nerd like baltar gets to bang every chick he runs into

[Jessper]

so...who's the 5th of the final five

and how is it some ugly nerd like baltar gets to bang every chick he runs into

I'd bet it isn't Starbuck, Adama, Lee, Baltar, or Roslin. Beyond that it is hard to say.


The whole thing with Anders (or is it Sanders?)

Ya, Anders.

This show is amazing!

[Assassin]

Its not gonna be Starbuck for sure...not gonna be Adama either. That would be too obvious. It mite be Roslin, what wit her massive hatred of cylons...would make for good irony. But again, she's kinda too obvious just like Adama.

My money is on the final cylon not being anyone we currently know. They've already played that card with the 4 from last season. Im thinking it mite be Zack, Lee's brother who died before the war. That would be one hell of a surprise, and he was mentioned in this ep (could've been possible foreshadowing, since he hasn't been mentioned like, ever, in the past 3 seasons)

[Inazuma]

Well ... If it's Roslin, it gives Starbuck a good reason to take the shot and explain her behavior.

Btw; The show is getting way too many Messiah-Like chars.
Baltar should just die, Roslin is just a bitchy scoolteacher playing big, only Starbuck got a real Hero profile.

As for the "Sander effect" I bet our scared robot friend sent an Abort order that made the fleet go away.

[rockmanj]

Im putting my money on Gaeta being the final one; if you look at his history, its pretty compelling. Him, or Tom Zarek.

[Inazuma]

At his history ?
Can you be more explicit ?

[Assassin]

Hmm Geata/Gaeda would make an interesting choice. He's not as 'big' as some of the other ones, but still had a major role in the series and aboard the galactica. enough to cause a big commotion.

But the final cylon has to be someone monumental since its such a big mystery now. I dont think Gaeda will be able to fill that 'leader' role with all the other major players already in the field.

[Jessper]

Im putting my money on Gaeta being the final one; if you look at his history, its pretty compelling. Him, or Tom Zarek.

Zarek would be a interesting choice.

[Inazuma]

Not Zarek, not possible.He's a sidekick playing the internal political ideological clusterfuck. He done his time.

Gaeda ? What about Dee, the comm officer gal.

[saman]

it's going to be one of the bigger characters in the show. remember d'anna's reaction when she saw who it was? my money's on roslin, bill adama, or lee. it could be zach too, though i'm pretty sure d'anna doesn't know who he is. it may also be admiral cain, the former admiral of the pegasus. that'd be quite a twist.

[rockmanj]

it's going to be one of the bigger characters in the show. remember d'anna's reaction when she saw who it was? my money's on roslin, bill adama, or lee. it could be zach too, though i'm pretty sure d'anna doesn't know who he is. it may also be admiral cain, the former admiral of the pegasus. that'd be quite a twist.

I think Gaeta, Zarek, or Dee would be a good choice. Im not sure if you know about any of the recent press, but there was a promo photo taken with Roslin, Adama, and Lee in it, and apparently the producer of the show said that no one in that photo is the final Cylon. Also, it was said that the Final Cylon (whom ill call FC). Also, the FC (according to the producers or whatever) is someone that isn't dead (which eliminates Ellen Tigh; my original 1st choice)

Lee would be hard to explain as the FC, due to him having a father that raised him from birth, and there's only one skinjob left, so it wouldn't make sense that they're both cylon agents (unless we get crazy, and think they're the same cylon, only aged more :o ). Roslin, I don't agree with because she's always sick with cancer, and like I stated earlier, like Lee and Bill, was said (by virtue of the photo) not to be the FC. And also, the Last models of the cylons aren't able to be reproduced (or so I have read), so it shouldn't be a character that has already died.

Now, the reason I think Gaeta is because, for one, all of the other 4(?) were involved in the insurgency (if you remember, he was their inside man); and in this role he was quite instrumental, as he gave information on the cylons activities to the resistance. The other reason I think it could be him, is because of his relationship with Baltar. Gaius seems to be sort of close with the Cylons for some reason, and not only that he's sort of an authority on cylon physiology (remember the detector that they made?) Maybe he's still playing the role of "inside man" even now. And of course, since he helped develop the cylon detector, it would make sense that it wouldn't pick up himself, or the other cylons aboard the Galactia. So, IMO that puts him in excellent position to be the FC. Although not my only pick, I'd say he's my best bet.

I'll post later on why I think it could be one of the others...but for now; this picture shows a sketch of the final 5: http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/2/25/FFSketches.jpg

what do you all think of that?

[Assassin]

Now, the reason I think Gaeta is because, for one, all of the other 4(?) were involved in the insurgency (if you remember, he was their inside man); and in this role he was quite instrumental, as he gave information on the cylons activities to the resistance. The other reason I think it could be him, is because of his relationship with Baltar. Gaius seems to be sort of close with the Cylons for some reason, and not only that he's sort of an authority on cylon physiology (remember the detector that they made?) Maybe he's still playing the role of "inside man" even now. And of course, since he helped develop the cylon detector, it would make sense that it wouldn't pick up himself, or the other cylons aboard the Galactia. So, IMO that puts him in excellent position to be the FC. Although not my only pick, I'd say he's my best bet.


Alot of what you said makes sense, but just a few things i wanna point out. for one, the cylon detector did work...it picked up boomer as a cylon but baltar just lied about it, so the whole fleet thought it was a failure. second, if gaeta is the final cylon, he wouldn't be aware of it rite now (or at the very least, wasn't aware of it at the time he helped with the cylon detector), so theres no way he could've programmed an 'immunity' for himself and other cylons.

As for the 'final 5 can't ressurect' thing, where did you hear that? so far it hasn't been mentioned in the show at all, has it?

[Inazuma]

I'll post later on why I think it could be one of the others...but for now; this picture shows a sketch of the final 5: http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/2/25/FFSketches.jpg

what do you all think of that?

Well hotlinking failed my friend but I managed to see what you were talking about
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:FFSketches.jpg

Well for me that sketches excludes Gaeta, and the second to left guy's haircut really makes me wonder who it can be. I mean, V shaped hair coming to the forehead ?

[rockmanj]

Alot of what you said makes sense, but just a few things i wanna point out. for one, the cylon detector did work...it picked up boomer as a cylon but baltar just lied about it, so the whole fleet thought it was a failure. second, if gaeta is the final cylon, he wouldn't be aware of it rite now (or at the very least, wasn't aware of it at the time he helped with the cylon detector), so theres no way he could've programmed an 'immunity' for himself and other cylons.

As for the 'final 5 can't ressurect' thing, where did you hear that? so far it hasn't been mentioned in the show at all, has it?

But remember, Gaeta is a specialist in like Biogenetic engineering, plus its beed shown that he's quite adept at using computer systems; I think he could have easily planted some sort of program in there to shield himself and/or the others. And I never said it didnt work, due to Gaius, like everyone in the fleet besides Doc Coddle thought it was a crock.

as for your other concern:


As the Seven do not hold (or appear to desire) knowledge of the Five, and with their special nature, their ability to resurrect and the existence of multiple copies for any of the Five are uncertain based on aired events and official responses.[3] This failure to recognize could be due to a mental block programmed into their minds or simply because the Final Five left the Cylon homeworld before the Seven were created.

from:http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Final_five#_note-2

I should have said that 'its not likely that they can resurrect', but I am sure that Ronald D Moore said that the FC was someone that is alive now, and that they have left clues along the way to his/her's existence. And as for the photo...hmm Tyrol kind of has a V shaped hairline...and I think if the fc isn't gaeta, then its most likely a woman.

[saman]

Im not sure if you know about any of the recent press, but there was a promo photo taken with Roslin, Adama, and Lee in it, and apparently the producer of the show said that no one in that photo is the final Cylon.


hmm, i can't say i knew that. it's interesting news. roslin's cancer does complicate the her-being-final-cylon theory. although, ignoring your news for a second, i'm having a hard time discounting lee from being a cylon just because he has a dad. i'm sure the rest of the final five all had parents too. or think they did. false memories, maybe?

about the ressurection topic, as it makes sense to me, the final five can be ressurected, but this is only their first life, so they haven't ressurected yet, which is why no one knows who they are yet. a theory that has its' holes, i know: when they die, what would they ressurect into if no one knows who they're supposed to be and so haven't made copies for them?

another question to ponder is, if the final cylon is on galactica, then why didn't they hear the music and meet up with the other four at the end of season 3?

[rockmanj]

hmm, i can't say i knew that. it's interesting news. roslin's cancer does complicate the her-being-final-cylon theory. although, ignoring your news for a second, i'm having a hard time discounting lee from being a cylon just because he has a dad. i'm sure the rest of the final five all had parents too. or think they did. false memories, maybe?

about the ressurection topic, as it makes sense to me, the final five can be ressurected, but this is only their first life, so they haven't ressurected yet, which is why no one knows who they are yet. a theory that has its' holes, i know: when they die, what would they ressurect into if no one knows who they're supposed to be and so haven't made copies for them?

another question to ponder is, if the final cylon is on galactica, then why didn't they hear the music and meet up with the other four at the end of season 3?
there's this:

http://io9.com/340986/secrets-of-battlestar-season-four-betrayed-in-new-photo

And also...
Well, the thing with Lee is, that Bill knows that's his son; I mean he wasnt the greatest father in the world, but he was around when Lee grew up. Although you do raise an interesting point; if you remember the conversation Lee and Bill had; Lee raised the possibility of his brother being a cylon, and asking if that were the case, would he be loved any less.

And resurrection has many limits, one of them being distance. If one of them dies, there has to be a resurrection ship within fairly close proximity; otherwise, they won't be brought back to life.

I guess now would be a good time to pose another question...Based on what we know, the cylons have placed 5 additional long term sleepers in the human civilization, in varying roles. The four we know of are a high ranking military officer (Tigh), a politician (Tory), Chief Petty officer on the BSG (if he's not there, those raptors arent flying [Tyrol]) and a rank and file soldier (Anders). Assuming that the five should have fairly different jobs and backgrounds, what isn't represented there? Maybe it is indeed another person in the military (which would make sense too), but maybe its someone who's position is quite different (not sure if that makes much sense).

[Inazuma]

Interesting Rockmanj

What about Cottle ? The 'Doc ?
Who would be in better position to fuck things up, I mean the old can " Sabotage " the president if he wants to.

[rockmanj]

Yea, I also think that's a good guess. He's also a character with kind of a fuzzy background, plus he's pretty eccentric (he chain smokes cigars!). But I don't know..it wouldn't really be all that shocking if it turned out that he was the FC; I'm thinking the writers might pick a character that would have a bigger "wow" factor once revealed.

[Jessper]

it's going to be one of the bigger characters in the show. remember d'anna's reaction when she saw who it was? my money's on roslin, bill adama, or lee. it could be zach too, though i'm pretty sure d'anna doesn't know who he is. it may also be admiral cain, the former admiral of the pegasus. that'd be quite a twist.

She saw one of the five, maybe not the final cylon. I figured her saying sorry to the one she saw was Tigh because of the whole eye deal.

Cottle is a good guess but I agree that he wouldn't be shocking enough just because he isn't a big player, but then again there are only so many options and with this kind of a wait we are over analyzing each, so the revelation might not be as amazing as we hope it to be. In fact I'd be really surprised if the Final Cylon revelation is as much of a wow moment as the other 4.

[Inazuma]

Episode 2 is on and ...

Lots of Cylon Plot Uncovering

Enjoy

[Assassin]

i loved starbuck in this ep....she was awesome. odama as well. him and starbuck's little chat in that cell was wicked.

as for the cylons, what can i say...they're become more and more human with all this arguing and betrayal....and now the centurians (atleast those two) have free will...wonder if that'll stay that way.

But why did the rest of them try and run when they were getting shot? they'll just ressurect in the next room anyway. still, this is getting really interesting.

[Inazuma]

Well if all Centurions have free will and shares consciousness there is a good chance that the models that wanted the raiders lobotomized are going to be ... spawncamped.

[rockmanj]

http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/04/03/exclusive-caprica-casting-info-revealed/

some tidbits about the Caprica spin-off

Oh, and I have a new candidate for the FC...Romo Lampkin. What do you all think about that?

[Assassin]

who the hell is Romo Lampkin?

[Jessper]

who the hell is Romo Lampkin?

Baltar's Lawyer (the real one, not Lee).

[rockmanj]

Yea, the guy that defended Baltar; he was also a student of Bill Adama's father; who we have found out was one of the parties instrumental to building the Cylons. I say this because he's quite a mysterious character, and it seems that he's not really all that old; yet he's been around for a while it seems. Another guy on a fourm that I visit has a similar theory (but his is kinda...iffy) ...but now that I see this stuff about the Caprica series, I'm starting to doubt things a bit, especially with this Zoe-A through Q business.

[Assassin]

when did we find out anythign about bill adama other then that he was a lawyer...i dont recall anyhting about him helping with the cylons (within the context of BSG i mean).

Is this all from the Caprica interview thing? and if so, lets keep that info out of this thread. Make a new thread for it if you like.

[rockmanj]

Understood. FYI, that's not really an interview, but a casting sheet for the show; When more info comes out, I'll make a separate thread^^. Actually, one thing I noticed about the last episode that I kinda thought was...quirky was the whole "let's whore out Tory" plan. She went along with that surprisingly easily. Not quite sure how I felt about that (or how lame Baltar was trying to pick her up).

[Assassin]

hey Tori's hot....they can whore her out anytime they want, i'll still watch

[Munsu]

i loved starbuck in this ep....she was awesome. odama as well. him and starbuck's little chat in that cell was wicked.

as for the cylons, what can i say...they're become more and more human with all this arguing and betrayal....and now the centurians (atleast those two) have free will...wonder if that'll stay that way.

But why did the rest of them try and run when they were getting shot? they'll just ressurect in the next room anyway. still, this is getting really interesting.
They probably have a way to turn off the resurrection shit or a way to tell the resurrection shit not to revive someone.

[rockmanj]

They probably have a way to turn off the resurrection shit or a way to tell the resurrection shit not to revive someone.

Yea, its called "boxing" a line; like what they did with number 3.


hey Tori's hot....they can whore her out anytime they want, i'll still watch

Sexist -_-;; Come on, she got picked up by a guy in a NECKERCHIEF. He lives on an old ass battleship put together with gum and spit, and still has the gall to wear a motherfrakkin neckerchief?! Not to mention that he starts talking to himself in the middle of "wooing". I'm ashamed for her, Baltar, and the 4 on ship cylons. Bad form. Bad form, indeed.

[saman]

so. tori now officially needs to die

[rockmanj]

Cally and that baby were so annoying...Im almost glad Tory airlocked her. She was running around looking like a meth addict or something. And i guess now Adama knows that one of his crew's a skinjob.

[badass]

Come on, she got picked up by a guy in a NECKERCHIEF. He lives on an old ass battleship put together with gum and spit, and still has the gall to wear a motherfrakkin neckerchief?! Not to mention that he starts talking to himself in the middle of "wooing". I'm ashamed for her, Baltar, and the 4 on ship cylons. Bad form. Bad form, indeed.

Stop being a hater. Baltar is a punani prophet. Deal with it. I'm with you on being glad Cally died, though. Her shitty acting makes babies cry. As far as the final cylon goes, the more it gets built up, the less I give a shit. It might as well be Jimi Hendrix. That would at least make the stupidity of the "All Along the Watchtower" plot device more passable.

[Jessper]

Stop being hater. Baltar is a punani prophet. Deal with it. I'm with you on being glad Cally died, though. Her shitty acting makes babies cry. As far as the final cylon goes, the more it gets built up, the less I give a shit. It might as well be Jimi Hendrix. That would at least make the stupidity of the "All Along the Watchtower" plot device more passable.

Do you even begin to understand what they were doing with the All Along the Watchtower song? It is a major point in the plot, and one that we have seen again and again (this is a hint).


And i guess now Adama knows that one of his crew's a skinjob.

He does?

[badass]

Do you even begin to understand what they were doing with the All Along the Watchtower song? It is a major point in the plot, and one that we have seen again and again (this is a hint).
Yes, I get its purpose, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. Thanks for the hint, though.

[Assassin]

what purpose? i dont get the hint. explain!

any, ya, how does adama know anything? as far as he knows, cali was crazy, probably due to the meds. I wonder how tori's gonna explain her being there, or having the baby since a few ppl saw cali carrying the kid rite before.

[Munsu]

Only watched 5 minutes so far... I've just completely lost all respect for Boomer, you all know why.

Edit: Cally is a complete whackjob. Glad she's dead, but it was a complete waste of an episode. They should've just killed her right off the bat. And yeah, Adama knows shit.

[Inazuma]

so. tori now officially needs to die

In horrible conditions with no means of resurrection.

Now while they could have an very interesting ep about a complete clusterfuck with the FIRST 3 Way battle of the series,(Free Cyclons-Bad Cylons-Colonials ) they just go 40 minutes over Cally finding out then dying together with some couple drama.

My point being Chief cheating on Cally then her dying ... WHO GIVES A SHIT.

[Munsu]

Other than Chief didn't cheat... Cally was delusional and imagining things that weren't there.

[Inazuma]

Yes, but that's my point. Him cheating or not wouldn't change the fate of the universe.
So, what was up with this ep ?
Are we trying to make Galactica for 40years old household womens ?

[rockmanj]

Yea, I know he doesnt know. He was probably just telling Tyrol what happened.

[Assassin]

Yes, but that's my point. Him cheating or not wouldn't change the fate of the universe.
So, what was up with this ep ?
Are we trying to make Galactica for 40years old household womens ?

The purpose was character development for Tori and Calli, as well as to her death, which inturn will affect the chief. We're bound to see the ripples of this episode later on.

[Jessper]

what purpose? i dont get the hint. explain!


"All this has happened before and will happen again." The All Along the Watchtower song connected the BSG universe with ours. This series is not supposed to be like Startrek, or Aliens or what ever, this show is happening as a repetition of our time line. A Hendrix song is there to help us relate to this iteration of history.

It is in no way out of place, and that the Cylons heard it might be a hint that perhaps even if the Cylons win history will play out the same (hence them knowing a human song) to the next cycle.

Also, if you think the Chief losing his wife won't effect the series given that he is one of the final five and one that seemed to be hell bent on staying with the human cause, then I disagree. This could either cement his position (if he finds out Tori did it for example) or could turn it around and he could become like Tori and for the Cylon cause.

There is more to plays, movies and tv than action scenes. BSG happens to require this insight as well.

[Inazuma]

I didn't say it wouldn't affect the plot at all.
I just said that Tori-Chief-Cally matter isn't like the second big bang.

This sucked 40 minutes while it deserved 10 or 20 at max.

The screen time that matter got opposed to the Cylon internal fighting got was just totally out of proportions, as if BSG sucked Desesperate Housewife ass to get a boost in audience by having some slow sorry ass action completly not in phase with the series as a whole.

I always praised BSG for this when I've been asked why people should be watching this ; " BSG is well balanced, having action, sci-fi, char dev, plot dev, suspence and drama ".

This one was like 88%Drama10%Char Dev2Plot Dev.

To me it really was like some asshole pourred mustard in my 70 years old bourbon and as for the ones who wrote that eps, they can really go and die in a fire. One more eps like that, and BSG will loose it's Perfectio.

[rockmanj]

I kind of agree with Inazuma on this one. It just seemed to drag on, and while it showed some important plot development, I think all that Cally/Tyrol stuff could have been handled in much less time, and in a much less annoying manner. And the Starbuck/Anders scene...yuck. He needs to grow a pair, and she...well the whole basis of Starbuck is that she's supposed to be kinda nutty. (Also Cavil and that number 8? yuck!)

[rockmanj]

bump

SO how about Tyrol's meltdown?? I mean, of course most guys would pick Boomer over Cally, (And I don't even find Grace Park all that attractive, but compared to Cally...no contest) but that's just harsh saying what he said so soon after her death, and then getting himself quickly demoted. And what about that mess between Tigh and Caprica 6? A little weird, very gross, but also interesting. Pretty good episode, IMO.

[Jessper]

I wonder if Anders and Tori will have similar break downs. It is harsh what he said but clearly he is having some large issues, though I think he really wanted to have someone tell him he screwed up like in the earlier scene. He seems to be wanting to prove he isn't perfect so he retains his humanity.

Great episode, as always I can't wait for more.

[Assassin]

i saw he whole screwing up thing as confirmation that it was just a mistake, and not some subconscious cylon plan, like boomer shooting adama. but the melt down was definately fun....i was expecting adama to have the guards escort him to his room or something to kool off, but he just friggin demoted his. thats both sad and awesome at the same time.

[rockmanj]

Yea, I saw the screwup as an honest mistake...but he was being way too hard on himself. Its not like Adama knows everything hes going through...but that was still kinda rough of him to demote him like that.

[Assassin]

so....leobin's with the demetrius now, the chief is likely going to start following baltar, and starbuck's been relieved of command with a mutiny.

[rockmanj]

I don't know how I'm feeling about that chief lately...his character is changing a lot (I like it, but..); much like Tory and Tigh are (even though he is loathe to admit it). Speaking of Tigh...i wonder exactly how he was made, if he's supposed to be like 71, but the cylons were created about 40 years ago. (it seems that he has aged, since they've shown him in his younger days) I could understand the creation of the other 3, as they seem to be in their 30s, but Tigh is much older than them; and even older than Cavill (the perverted cylon). I just find that a bit odd.

[Jessper]

The final 5 seem to pre-date the other 7, that is the impression I always got as well. From the previous incarnation of the story line perhaps...

[rockmanj]

Are you referring to the Original series?

[Jessper]

I don't think I am but it is possible. While I didn't watch the original much at all I don't recall them having human looking Cylons? Perhaps the first series is supposed to be the start of this all and the final five were created then?

I'm not sure really, but my theory is just that these five are from the last go through of this play, they talk constantly about how all this has happened before and will happen again, I choose to believe for their universe this is truth.

To clarify, I think that the final five predate the Cylon war at least; Tigh should have been heavily involved and I don't find it reasonable that they replaced him.

What do you think?

This is why I like this series so much, so many interesting questions.

[Kusanagi]

the first series was not the time period for the creation of the final five

the story of the first series was basically the same as this one "a fleet lead by a man named Adama captaining a battleship named Galactica looks for Earth"

this series just made everything better, the old series was bad, and i mean bad, terrible writing, terrible stories, terrible acting

As far as predating the other 7, I agree, they do seem to do that. I'm thinking more that they might be "more human" than the other 7. I'm still not sure if they have other models to resurrect to.

[Jessper]

Why not? I'll admit my knowledge here is minimal but Starbuck being a girl rather than a guy is to indicate that we are in a different time line. Did they have human Cylons? If not I think it is an interesting idea at least. =)

I'd bet the final five can not resurrect.

[Assassin]

im pretty sure it was stated at some point that this series was a remake of the original...i dont think they've got some parallel timeline going here.

I agree with the final 5 predating the other 7....im under the impression that they were the first 5 human looking cylons created, but were too human and too different from their machine brethren, so the next 7 models were manufactured differently, and programmed to never think about the final 5. The hybrid is also very interesting, since alot of the jibberish it spouts has to do with god and destiny and such. I wonder at what point the hybrid was created, between the 5 and the 7, or after the 7.

Also, how does starbuck fit into all of this, with her visions of that swirly thing since she was a baby...it would all make sense if she was a cylon and those were pre-programmed memories or something, but i dont think the writers will make her a cylon.

ps: i think after the season 3 finale the "omgwtfbbq" surprise factor is gone....i can't think of any revelation for the final cylon that will make me go "holy shit, i didn't see that comming" like with the reveal of the 4.

[Jessper]

im pretty sure it was stated at some point that this series was a remake of the original...i dont think they've got some parallel timeline going here.


Sorry time line was a bad phrase to use, I mean rather that they are not in the same time period as the original, but rather they are at some later point in time. (earlier is a possibility but not one that I think is right)

My impression that making Starbuck female was to distinguish this from the first series, I could be wrong and I would probably be disappointed but whatever.



Also, how does starbuck fit into all of this, with her visions of that swirly thing since she was a baby...it would all make sense if she was a cylon and those were pre-programmed memories or something, but i dont think the writers will make her a cylon.

Ya, I really doubt she will be a Cylon.

I don't have any ideas that I consider good enough to talk about concerning why she has had those visions.



ps: i think after the season 3 finale the "omgwtfbbq" surprise factor is gone....i can't think of any revelation for the final cylon that will make me go "holy shit, i didn't see that comming" like with the reveal of the 4.

Ya, I doubt anyone thinks the revelation of the 5th will be as surprising as the last season's finale.

[rockmanj]

Ya, I really doubt she will be a Cylon.

I don't have any ideas that I consider good enough to talk about concerning why she has had those visions.

Interesting thing about visions...There are some theories being tossed around on other fourms about there being another player (other than the humans and cylons), and that this 3rd party may be responsible for all these visions and such. For example, we have Rosalin, who has phophetic visions, Baltar and 6, who see visions of each other (and we recently found out that head 6 is real!), and Kara who has visions about how to get to Earth. It would be something if a 3rd party is revealed that's capable of such manipulation.

[Assassin]

when did we find out she was real?

[rockmanj]

About 2 episodes ago, when Baltar was being beat by the cops. He didn't stand up on his own; Head 6 kept lifting him up. If you have it, watch it again...the way he got up was physically impossible to do unless he was being lifted like the 6 was doing.

[Assassin]

oh ya, i remember that...that was pretty weird.

so do you think then, the 6 that appeared back in like season 1 (for 1 ep) and framed baltar, and then disappeared was really head 6? Cuz head 6 says she'll prove something to him, and walks out as they're doing it, and thats when the 'real world' 6 appears as some scientist.

[rockmanj]

That's a possibility, but the thing is, is that 6 really a 6, or something else?

[Inazuma]

Cylon 6 Got ThermoOptical Camouflage ?

The Heeeeelllll ?

[rockmanj]

Nothing like that...the same thing would apply to Head Baltar also.

[Turkish-S]

i wanna watch this.... could someone make a list for me in which order i should watch this show. i know there are 4 seasons... if i look on IMDB i get this:
1.
"Battlestar Galactica" (1978) (TV series)

2.
Battlestar Galactica (1978) (TV)

3.
Battlestar Galactica: Razor (2007) (TV)
aka "Untitled Battlestar Galactica TV Special" - USA (working title)

4.
"Galactica 1980" (1980) (TV series)
aka "Battlestar Galactica" - USA (syndication title)

5.
"Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance" (2006) (TV series)
aka "Battlestar Galactica: Crossroads" - USA (working title)
aka "Battlestar Galactica: The Webisodes" - USA (informal title)
6. Battlestar Galactica: The Second Coming (1999)
7. Battlestar Galactica: The Story So Far (2006) (TV)
8. The Cylons of 'Battlestar Galactica' (2004) (V)
9. Remembering 'Battlestar Galactica' (2004) (V)
10. Working with the Daggit of 'Battlestar Galactica' (2004) (V)
11. Battlestar Galactica (2003) (VG)
12. Battlestar Galactica: Revealed (2008) (TV)
13. Battlestar Galactica: The Phenomenon (2008) (TV)
14. Glen Larson on the Creation of 'Battlestar Galactica' (2004) (V)
15. Stu Phillips Composing the 'Battlestar Galactica' Score (2004) (V)
16. Battlestar Galactica: Space Alert (1978) (VG)

[Jessper]

First you have Battlestar Galactica the Miniseries (2003)
Then you have Seasons 1 and 2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407362/episodes
Battlestar Galactica:Razor seems to fall between season 2 and 3 in the time line but it was shown to us after season 3. It is a movie (not standalone at all though)
After Razor you watch up to the current episode in season 4.

Everything pre-2003 was the old series which is the same idea but you do not need to watch that one to understand this one at all. Also it is pretty painful to watch.

Edit: Oops ya, the webisodes are redundant.

[Turkish-S]

owww nice man. Couldn't have hoped for a better explenation.. downloading miniseries now.

[Assassin]

the webisodes are just clips from Razor...you can skip those since you'll be watching Razor anyway.

[Assassin]

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whats the deal, no comments on last nights ep? I though it was freaking awesome...one of the best this season, and thats saying something.

The standoff on the demetrius was great, and Anders shooting Gaeda in the leg....man what can i say. I love the fact that this show is so gritty and realistic. And all the actors are so friggin great. Same with that 6 killin that chick, and then being killed by the other 6. so much awesomeness in one ep, its hard to believe.

We also finally find out some more stuff about the events of last season...so the president will 'know the truth of the opera house'...whatever that means. But since it involved the final 5 cylons and the baby, it should be interesting to see what that vision actually meant. As for the final 5, it seems they'll soon be revealed, once Diana is unboxed.

But the biggest wtf moment was finding out the final 5 are from earth. I wonder how that all works out. My current theory is that the final 5 were actually the first 5 cylons created, but not recently....im thinking they were created on earth when/before the 12 tribes left and settled on Kobol or whatever. That explains the whole "all of this has happened before and will happen again" thing. As for how they're still around, since they obviously age, well....it could be that they either grow up and die, and are then downloaded into an infant body, going through the cycle over and over again, living thousands of lives over the years. OR maybe these 5 are just descended from the original 5 cylons, and thier 'cylon heritage' was passed on through each generation.....this could also explain why the cylons were so hard pressed to be able to procreate naturally. it would make sense that its something only the original 5 and thier descendants can do.

man, so many theories, so many questions.

[rockmanj]

Sorry, I mean to post, but I was a bit busy. So, yea great episode, looks like things are getting back on track. And it seems Kara might start to reevaluate some things, now that the hybrid has basically called her the 'harbinger of death'...although those words could be construed so many different ways. I really liked the grittiness, and man, were there a crapload of deaths! I guess in tense situations like that, things get out of hand pretty easily...and I'm not quite sure if i should be aroused by the 2 6's kissing...

[Jessper]

The 13 tribes lived on Cobol first and the 13th colony left and found earth, they didn't come from earth.

The scene with the Sixs was great. Lots of good stuff going on, can't wait until they get back to the fleet.

[Inazuma]

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whats the deal, no comments on last nights ep? I though it was freaking awesome...one of the best this season, and thats saying something.



For me that reaction to the ep was " Eehhhh ".

Yes a lot happened and at the same time, nothing really. At the beginning of the ep I knew,(Everyone else too I think) that Starbuck was about to get to the Cylon ship and bring it back. At the end of the ep, she is back with the base star.

It gives that impression that you found water inside what was supposed to be a surprise candy.
Producers really tend to think that by sugar coating everything with loads of drama, everything will just slide.

Well not for me, if it wasn't stamped with the Battlestar Galactica trademark, I wouldn't have watched it to the end.

[Assassin]

are you fucking high? geada got shot, the other chick and the 6 died, the president did a 180 on her beliefs, the hybrid went psycho and then told kara she be the death of them all, her prophecy foreshadowed the reveal of the final 5, it also furthered the baby/opera house plot, we found out that the final 5 were from earth.....how can you say nothing really happened.

Im not sure what you think the producers are sugar coating with drama...there was major plot and character development in this ep. hell, we see the cylons spazzing out over thier 'deaths' and see how they react to actually dying, when they know there isn't a resurrection ship around.

[rockmanj]

I kind of liked the little things...like the 6 killing that chick because she killed her before, and it caused trauma. Maybe resurrection ships aren't all they're cracked up to be. I mean, dying has to be pretty traumatizing to one's psyche, cylon or not.

[Inazuma]

are you fucking high? geada got shot, the other chick and the 6 died, the president did a 180 on her beliefs, the hybrid went psycho and then told kara she be the death of them all, her prophecy foreshadowed the reveal of the final 5, it also furthered the baby/opera house plot, we found out that the final 5 were from earth.....how can you say nothing really happened.


Thats what I said, a lot happened and at the same time, nothing.
Plot uncovering always feels great because it's something that comes out every now and then. Here they just shat out a shit load of it and moved on.

It's like ice cream, you eat some you're happy, you eat a whole lot of it you'll run to the toilets in the middle of the night.

Show lost it's balance. Drama, Fighting, Plot Dev, Space Warfare, ... It was all plot dev and drama and some people forgot that BSG isn't the best show ever and start to think that no matter what they do, no matter how they produce/write/handle the series, everything will just slide. Partially true, but they better don't fuck anymore with their fans.

[Assassin]

....so, your argument is, there were too many good things in one episode. seriously.

anyways, my vote for 'best show on tv' is currently up in the air for BSG, House and Supernatural....lets see if this weeks ep puts BSG in front or not.

[Inazuma]

Yeah to much information to assimilate, too much plot dev to have the usual plot dev impact.
It's lost it's rarety, so it's not good anymore.
You get gold necklace, the day after you hear on the radio that water can be turned into gold on a 1:1 ratio.
Gold rarety lost, gold is shit thus your beloved necklace is shit.

Thats the way I see it, they poured too much dev, it's lost a good part of it's value, thus the show lost it's value.
For me, BSG shot itself in the foot.

[rockmanj]

That makes almost no senses, especially since the show isn't even done with yet. Probably the best measure of something like BSG can't be measured until the end. And I'm not sure...(well, if it's too much info for you, then that's your opinion.)

[Inazuma]

That episode 7 is some epic shit.

[Assassin]

damn...those last 10 min with the opera house stuff were fucking intense. Sharon shooting 6 was awesome..too bad its the mind-6 that takes hera. And now the base ship has jumped with baltar and the president aboard.

The 6 that was shot, was the the rebel 6 or the prisoner 6? i would think it was the prisoner 6, but i didn't see rebel 6 on the base ship anywhere. Also, i wonder where the base ship jumped to...you think it went to the hub?

And lastly, Gaeda.....it was strongly implied that he could be the final cylon. Whether thats true or not remains to be seen. Im not sure if i want him to be the final cylon or not. One the one had it would be great, but on the other hand, i want a big reveal, with someone we never expected.

[Jessper]

I think Gaeta would be the most interesting to be the 5th at this point, he has a reason to hate at least some of the other 4. Not to mention the "trial" he was put through over the New Caprica stuff.

Tyrol, Anders, and Tigh all had a large part in the resistance on New Caprica and so did Gaeta, just in a unique way. I don't think it is coincidence that they were involved in that way and that Gaeta was as well just in a slightly different manner.

The six that was shot was the rebel cylon's leader, not the prisoner. She was on the way to talk to Adama to give Leoben time to get the centurions to agree to the new plan of not double crossing the colonials.

I'm wondering if the line of, the dieing leader finding out the truth of the opera house, might actually be the six instead of Roslin.

As far as the jump goes it seems more logical that it would have just jumped to a random position rather than anything specific, just the quickest route out. Jumping to the hub would be an interesting turn of events though.

Overall an amazing episode, and we should have a great space fight in the near future. I can't wait.

[rockmanj]

Hmm...this strengthens my whole "Gaeta is the final one" theory all the more, but now that so many people think that, I'm guessing the producers might go in a totally different direction...but who knows. But we'll have to wait a couple of weeks to see what happens...there's no new one this week.

[Inazuma]

But at the same time, the president having the same dream as boomer at the same time is fishy isn't it ?

Btw Felix's song is really sticking to my brain.

[Jessper]

This aired today in Europe for reasons unknown to me, it is out and about on torrent sites.

[rockmanj]

Freakin intense episode! but I wont discuss until everyone has seen it...

[Inazuma]

Cockteasing motherfuckers ...

I can't fucking believe what Diana said that and then said that and that.

[saman]

someone please tell me the whole "next week episode's the last one till 2009" deal is just Space being colossal jerks, and the show's still continuing on other stations

[Jessper]

This is a midseason break, the writers strike messed up their schedule. It will be back... I wanna say fall 2009?

[Assassin]

......

i have to wait a fucking year to finish the season?

[rockmanj]

3 and Baltar really stole the show this episode, but I'm not sure if Lucy Lawless used her actual accent in previous episodes or not (tell me I'm not the only one that noticed that). There was a fair amount of action, and I also thought Baltar was a goner for sure (also his scenes with the centurion and his admittance of guilt were brilliant.) Roslin's still a bitch, but it looks like the Old Man (playing it cool with his 'It's about time") might give her some of that Latino Heat soon.I'm not sure when the final season starts, but there are talks about possible BSG tv movies: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/05/more-battlestar.html

[Inazuma]

Well that wasn't expected on my part.

Watch 10, it's worth it.

[rockmanj]

Of Course...and Tigh and Adama were great....i.e. the way he just broke down when he found out his best friend in the world was a skinjob, and that scene between Lee and Tigh, and Tigh 's about to be airlocked. Just wow.

[Inazuma]

But who the fuck is the five ?!
He's not on BS75 ? Then where the fuck is he ? Could he be Zak, Lee's brother, coming back from the dead ?

[Assassin]

man, what a fucking great episode. I loved the 'semi-ending' and then the final scene on earth. I wonder what that was all about. it seems earth is in a post-apocalyptic state. I guess the 13th colony had a war and the planet was destroyed, resulting in humanity leaving to form the 12 colonies. Or maybe they left a long time ago, and those who remained destroyed themselves recently. I still dont know if the BSG timeline is set in the future or in the past. Are they our descendants or our ancestors?

As for the fifth cylon, Diana said he/she wasn't in aboard the galactica/fleet....It could be zack, but it could also imply that the 5th one was on the baseship as one of the hostages. Alot of the big players were there like Roslin, Baltar, Helo etc.

[Jessper]

Or maybe they left a long time ago, and those who remained destroyed themselves recently. I still dont know if the BSG timeline is set in the future or in the past. Are they our descendants or our ancestors?


I doubt we will ever know for sure where this falls in our time line given that earth is not current day or near it. I love the ambiguity of the time line in BSG.

Amazing stuff.

If they bring Zak back as the 5th that would just be stupid. It needs to be someone we know.

[Munsu]

Well, I can't read much of the thread since I'm not up-to-date, but there will be no more episodes till 2009:
http://www.tv.com/story/11383.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=news&tag=headlines;title;3

[Kusanagi]

The end made it look to me like the Earth had suffered a nuclear holocaust, radiation detectors and blackened soil, destroyed buildings and to be honest...I thought I saw the remains of a suspension bridge in there at the end.

I'm really itching to see how that one is explained.

[Inazuma]

All has happened before and will happen again.

[Munsu]

Here's some news on a BSG movie, etc:


Actress who plays Sharon on Sci Fi's hit says Battlestar movie has been given green light.

The Sci Fi Channel's Battlestar Galactica may currently be shooting the series' final episodes, but that doesn't mean the sci-fi hit is done for good.

In May, The Chicago Tribune unleashed a tidbit of information that made BSG fans' heads spin--there was talk behind the scenes of making up to three made-for-television movies set in the Battlestar universe. The series already had success with a pair of telefilms: the two-hour pilot and Razor, so the idea wasn't completely alien. A follow-up by The Tribune in June reported that at least one of the new movies was "looking likely."

The latest on the prospects of a BSG movie comes straight from the mouth of Grace Park, who plays Sharon in the series. Speaking with The Los Angeles Times, Park said, "I just heard about the first Battlestar movie being greenlit. A TV movie, but still!"

Apparently the news is so fresh that none of the cast's managers or agents have been contacted. Production is currently scheduled to begin in August.

As for those still reeling from the series' midseason finale, be prepared for some more mind blowing when Battlestar wraps in 2009. According to Park, "There's one episode where everything is explained and I had to read it three times," Park told the paper. "I had to sit down with [series creator] Ron Moore and he had to break it down."

The second half of Battlestar Galactica's final season is expected to air sometime early next year.
http://www.tv.com/story/11441.html?tag=story_list;title;9

[Jessper]

Now, we have not seen the rest of the season but from here it doesn't really seem right to continue. Plus I thought Ron Moore said that was the end of the story? I'm hesitant to say the least.

[Munsu]

Here's a column on the spin-off Caprica:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Caprica-Battlestar-Galactica/800043570


Caprica: The Battlestar Galactica Prequel Explained

"The end of humanity has a beginning."

So goes the not-so-cheery tagline for Caprica, the Battlestar Galactica prequel. The two-hour TV movie about the pre-apocalypse may or may not be a backdoor pilot to a new series, according to Sci Fi Channel's president, Dave Howe.

Caprica stars Esai Morales as Joseph Adama (father of BSG's Admiral William Adama) and Eric Stoltz as Daniel Graystone, who meet when their daughters are killed in the same terrorist bombing. The trouble/fun starts when Graystone, who is an entrepreneurial inventor (a la Bill Gates) decides to bring back the dead girls as robots. Paula Malcomson (Deadwood) has joined the cast as Stoltz's successful surgeon wife, and Polly Walker (Rome) plays the headmistress of a school that secretly teaches monotheism. Walker admitted that she was not a fan of science fiction in general before she was cast in Caprica. "I am a foster child of [the genre]," she said. "I watched all of Battlestar Galactica on DVD. "And now," she said with some resignation, "I'm a huge nerd."

Interestingly, even though the movie clearly takes place in the future, it has a 1950s look, in which men wear suits and hats, for example. "We made a choice for it to feel retro," said producer Ron Moore. "Even though it's a completely different world [than BSG], we are looking back," he said. Fans will probably be sad to learn that, other than the presence of a young William Adama, the new movie will not contain any winky references to the BSG mythology. "Caprica is a different animal," said Moore.

Are the cloned daughters the first Cylons? While the question wasn't answered directly at Sunday's Sci Fi session, it sure seems so. "This series is about our lack of control of technology," said Remi Aubuchon, Caprica's writer and co-executive producer, "how we take for granted the service class around us."

Sci Fi prez Howe says he'll see the completed movie next week, and then decide whether or not to order up a series. — Mickey O'Connor

[Munsu]

Just watched episodes 5-10... pretty good stuff. I have to say that there were a healthy dosage of boring, repetitive, and redundant scenes this season, but there were a ton of kickass moments. Good stuff.

So we made it to Earth, and this really seems like the beginning of a whole different series or big arc at the moment now that it's apparent that the final goal of the series wasn't to arrive at Earth. Sadly, all we have left is half a season. I'm in anticipation mode waiting to see the new direction the series takes.

I wonder mainly who the enemies are going to be, now that everyone seems to be getting along. Will they be an external force or an internal force? Will it be a force that both the Cylons and Humans have to fight together? Or will this be a 3-way...

With that said, as for when this scenes take place in regards to our era and history, I can only place it after this one because of all the architectural structures and skyscrappers. There's nothing to say that this Earth is an alternate universe Earth, with its own set of history. With that said, one has to wonder if they'll try to tie its history to ours. If they do, I hope they tell us who won World War III so that I can make the proper arrangements while I still have time.

Also, I don't think we've seen the last of Boomer. She should be alive and kicking and ready to cause some trouble. Now that the Chief's wife is dead, maybe she'll come and seduce him... some Cylon lovin'. The six who was in prison got pregnant. So, if she really got pregnant with Saul's baby, it means that these new Cylons make it possible to have Cylon + Cylon babies... I can see Boomer trying to get her own little monster.

The whole opera thing is pissing me off... hopefully we'll get that out of the way soon.

Here's some news about the next half of the season:


Battlestar Galactica: Super-Frakkin'-Sized Episodes


TVGuide.com confirmed with Sci Fi today that Battlestar Galactica's final season beginning in 2009 will air "extra-long" or extended episodes.

Executive producer Dave Eick told the audience at this year's Comic-Con that the final episodes have become so critical to the series arc that they couldn't possibly wrap them up in toaster-sized hour-long installments.

Does this mean we'll get multiple two-hour episodes — more than the 10 remaining planned — from Sci Fi? Eick didn't reveal the exact method of lengthening the episodes, but that should keep us fans frakkin' happy during the long hiatus.

Will the idea of super-sized episodes keep you toasty and warm while you wait for new Battlestar episodes? — Erin Fox
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Battlestar-Galactica-Extended/800044499

[Jessper]

Longer than an hour episodes is going to be amazing.

[Assassin]

friggin awesome.....even more galactica goodness.

[Munsu]

I wonder what they'll do though. Are they going to split the episodes in order to make a longer season? Are they going to do the same experiment FOX is doing with less commercial breaks? Are we going to get 2-hour specials constantly? Or are they simply adding 5-10 minutes of footage here and there...

I'm hoping that they still have plans for that movie after all is said and done.

[Munsu]

Hmm, Battlestar Galactica keeps pumping out good news after good news:


Battlestar Galactica Special in the Works

Battlestar Galactica may be wrapping up for good soon, but fear not: There is still more space drama to come.

A two-hour Battlestar Galactica special is set to air following the series' end in 2009, Sci Fi announced Thursday. The as-yet-untitled episode will be directed by star Edward James Olmos and will feature familiar BSG faces Michael Trucco, Aaron Douglas and Dean Stockwell. The network will name-drop more stars in the forthcoming weeks. No details yet on plot, but longtime sci-fi and BSG scribe Jane Espenson will pen the script.

Currently on mid-season hiatus, Battlestar will return to airwaves with its final 10 episodes after "the first of the year," executive producer Ronald D. Moore told TVGuide.com.

In the meantime, the Peabody Award-winning show will vie for six trophies at the Emmy Awards next month. — Joyce Eng
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Battlestar-Galactica-Special/800044707

So let's recap what I've understood from all of this:


We'll get longer episodes next season, 10 in total.
We'll get a 2-hour special episode after the season is over.
There's speculation that a movie is in the works as a sequel for the series.


Sounds good to me.

[Jessper]

Is the movie the 2 hour special they are talking about? That's how razor was right? Or was it longer?

[Munsu]

Is the movie the 2 hour special they are talking about? That's how razor was right? Or was it longer?
I don't think so, the 2-hour special seems like the conclusion of the series.

I think there was mention of more than one movie being planned taking place in the BSG universe, so it doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be sequels as I previously alluded to.

[Jessper]

Right, might be an opener to the spinoff series, I can't wait either way!

[Munsu]

Well, looks like I might've been wrong about the special... I guess it was all hopeful thinking. Here are more details:


Sci Fi releases first details of stand-alone two-hour movie that will be premiere after the series concludes.

While all Battlestar Galactica fans knew another stand-alone movie was coming down the pipeline, nothing was ever made official. Well, now it is.

Sci Fi Channel today announced "an all-new Battlestar Galactica special event" (fancy talk for telemovie) that's set to air in 2009 after the fourth and final season of BSG concludes. Like Razor, a previous Battlestar movie, it will be released on DVD shortly after it airs.

The two-hour flick will be written by Jane Espenson and directed by actor Edward James Olmos, who plays Bill Adama. However, Olmos may only be behind the camera; currently the only cast members announced for the film are Michael Trucco (Sam Anders), Aaron Douglas (Chief Galen Tyrol), and Dean Stockwell (Brother Cavil).

The "event" will take place just before the events of the miniseries that started everything off. According to Sci-Fi, the unnamed movie will show the aftermath of the destruction of Caprica and concentrate on two Cylon agents trying to clean up the mess after human spaceships manage to escape.

The Chicago Tribune asked Sci Fi head of original programming Mark Stern about the possibilities of more cast members joining the project, and naturally, it all comes down to money.

"The cast are lovely," Stern told the paper. "That's not to say we're not getting phone calls from their agents saying, 'They're huge now.' And we're respectful of that. We're not expecting anyone to do it because they owe us. There are actors that have come to some prominence; they're helping us out because they want to do it."

No Six? No Starbuck? No Sharon? No Adama? No worries--it's Battlestar...it will still be brilliant. Agree?
http://www.tv.com/story/11537.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=news&tag=headlines;title;1

Well some more news for those interested... It looks like the second half of the season will start on January, instead of April as it has been speculated around the internet. And some casting news for the movie:


Battlestar Movie Casting News

The two-hour Battlestar Galactica movie that fans have been salivating over begins shooting Monday in Vancouver.

The Sci Fi Channel told TVGuide.com about which favorite humans and toasters — er — Cylons would be featured in the yet-to-be titled movie. The network confirmed that, as of today, Edward James Olmos (Admiral Adama), Michael Trucco (Sam Anders), Aaron Douglas (Chief Tyrol) and Dean Stockwell (Brother Cavil) Tricia Helfer (Caprica/No. 6), Grace Park (Boomer/Athena), Callum Keith Rennie (Leoben), Rick Worthy (Simon) and that surly Michael Hogan (Tigh) would appear in the project.

Battlestar series scribe and co-executive producer Jane Espenson wrote the script, and Olmos will be directing the story — which as fans can tell from this cast list — is Cylon-centric.

As for rumors floating around the Web that the final season of Battlestar was being pushed to April 2009, take a deep breath and let it out, because it's not true. That's right, everyone will be watching how the Cylons and humans will recover after discovering Earth was a pile of radioactive wasteland in January of 2009.

Are you excited to get two more hours of Battlestar love? What do you think of the cast list, and who do you wish had made the cut? — Erin Fox
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Battlestar-Galactica-Movie/800046229

[Munsu]

January 16 bitches, and here's a preview:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=62432

[Munsu]

Webisodes for the series will start airing this Friday. There'll be two every week:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Battlestar-Galactica-Webisodes-1000704.aspx

[saman]

so new bsg's starting this friday. you guys excited?

[Assassin]

no way, this friday? friggin awesome

[rockmanj]

Wow, didnt realize it was so soon.

[Assassin]

im trying to rewatch all of BSG before watching the final 10 eps. its been so long, and with all the stupid breaks its easy to forget stuff.

[Penner]

what the frack, it airs today? awesome :P

[Inazuma]

The Fifth revealed. And a cornerstone char dies. Definitly not a Sunrise show

[rockmanj]

I think Dee's death was done very well. Even though it was heavily foreshadowed, it was like...perfect. And the rest of the episode was also great. And Ellen Tigh...wow! I can't wait to see what happens when she and Saul meet again. I mean, I wonder if she knows that he had her killed. And where is she, anyway? (I'm guessing Cavil might have an idea). More questions than answers, but an otherwise excellent episode.

P.S. And Kara finding her dead body...what the hell? That was so creepy, and Leoben's reaction was incredible.

[Munsu]

Just watched last week's episode... I'm still not convinced that Ellen is the final Cylon, that X factor with Kara is still there. Well Kara has to be since Tigh has always been delusional. Good episode overall, but I think it was a bit on the slow side. Hopefully tonight's episode will have more excitement on it.

[rockmanj]

I think RDM confirmed that Ellen is indeed the 5th Cylon. The thing is, nobody knows what Kara is exactly (not even Kara). But Ellen Tigh is the last Cylon:http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html

[Penner]

Oh man this is getting pretty fuckin' sweet now, latest ep(s4e13) was damn good.

[Munsu]

Oh man this is getting pretty fuckin' sweet now, latest ep(s4e13) was damn good.
Yep, I loved the last episode. Action packed. I also liked Gayda's expression when Baltar called him. Adama was awesome in this episode, quite kickass.

[poopdeville]

http://torrent.zoink.it/Battlestar.Galactica.S04E14.HDTV.XviD-0TV.[eztv].torrent

[Penner]

I used to only half-like this show the first 3 seasons, too little action, too much drama.
Then the first half of the 4th season it got better but now, man... this is pretty damn awesome.

[poopdeville]

I hoped the coup would work. While getting to Earth was a worthy goal, and required Cylon help, in the end, the presidency and military failed their people. The president stopped doing her job in a time of crisis. Bill Adama was guilty of those charges.

[rockmanj]

Well, I wouldn't say just Adama was. For one, he had no idea that Tigh was a Cylon, and even though its quite shocking, he was still basically the same person. I thought the last episode was really good, with Gaeta and Zarek getting what they deserve. I was quite surprised that he murdered the whole quorum...that wasn't totally unexpected, but...wow. I wonder how the fleet will handle this now, with all the reps being dead. Does this mean Lee will become the VP; or will the government just like, disband?

[Penner]

Well, i still liked the latest ep, sure it wasnt as awesome as the previous ones but u can't have all awesome all the time, u need some less awesome eps to make the awesome ones even more awesome.... ya dig? :P

[Assassin]

i thought the latest ep was brilliant. we got a lot of back story on how things played out, and some nice plot advancement towards the end.

im still a little lost on how it all fits together. From what i can tell, heres how things played out:
the 13th tribe (of cylons) leave kobol
the original cylons learn how to make babies and forget about resurrection
the final 5 realize its all gonna end and reinvent resurrection
after being resurrected on a ship orbiting earth, they head out to find the other 12 tribes and warn them to not create cylons
since they dont have FTL technology, they travel sub light speed towards the 12 colonies, reaching a few thousand years later.
At the colonies the first cylon war has started already and the centurions are trying to evolve
The 'final 5' offer to help the centurions evolve if they stop the war. first cylon war comes to an end.
the final 5 (rather, the first 5) create john/brother cavel. he's a dick.
cavel doesn't like being human, so he kills the final 5 and sends them to the colonies to fuck with them.
cylons, under cavels command, attack the colonies again and BSG starts.

But theres still the question of how it all started on kobol. was there a war there as well...why did they all leave. and why did the cylon tribe leave for earth.

And also, who the fuck is this Danial? i thought all the models had been seen already. I guess theres a 13th model? but why do they call him a 7? And, why is ellen being a cylon a known fact all of a sudden...last episode no know but sol knew. i guess he told everyone after that?

All this time, i was thinking starbuck would be the 13th model and we'd find out that more then just the final 5 survived the original war on earth....but that doesn't seem likely.

[Penner]

i also thought Starbuck was a cylon since she came back from wherever, and then when she found the crashed ship with another Starbuck in it, i was pretty sure she was one...now i have no clue tbh.

And that Daniel model...the "7", i too wonder who the hell that is, and he was more "artistic" and sensitive than the other models apparently..

Starbuck painted and whatnot before they went to war?
What if the '7' Daniel was her father and shes like a human/cylon hybrid kid?
That could somewhat explain some of the weird shit thats been going on with her o.O

Confusing stuff this -.-

[Munsu]

I'm pretty sure Saul revealed that Ellen was the other cylon... I think they made refferences to it in the last episode. I remember a line like "the last of the final 5 is dead" spoken by some people or someone.

I also think Starbuck is someone related to the Daniel model.


Also, something to wonder... since Sam isn't "there" anymore, where is he? There are no more resurrection ships right? But if there were, could he be resurrected while his old body was technically alive... so that there would be two Sams instead? Or does that ship they currently have still have the capabilities of resurrection? I forget.

[Animeniax]

I just started watching the first movie from 2003. Pretty good so far, but I have a few comments:

Why is Starbuck a manly woman?
That is the cutest Korean woman I think I've ever seen.
Lots of extras, helps add to the realism.
Apollo looks like a weenie, not as cool as the original.
Lots of CGI, but what else would you expect from a sci-fi show?

Here's hoping the series is as cool as everyone says.

[rockmanj]

[QUOTE=Animeniax]I just started watching the first movie from 2003. Pretty good so far, but I have a few comments:

Why is Starbuck a manly woman?
She pulls it off well; and she also sleeps around a lot

That is the cutest Korean woman I think I've ever seen.
I might have to disagree with that...but she gets some decent storylines

Lots of extras, helps add to the realism.
Apollo looks like a weenie, not as cool as the original.
Just wait til he gets fat! And as for the original....

Lots of CGI, but what else would you expect from a sci-fi show?
Yea, but it doesn't really hit you over the head with it that much

Here's hoping the series is as cool as everyone says.

[Animeniax]

Why is Starbuck a manly woman?
She pulls it off well; and she also sleeps around a lotMaybe, but regardless, a whore woman is less appealing than a stud with game.


That is the cutest Korean woman I think I've ever seen.
I might have to disagree with that...but she gets some decent storylinesWell it all depends on my experience (or lack thereof) with Korean women :D.

I really like how they hearken back to the original series with the old Viper and images of the old Cylons. Makes me nostalgic, though I wasn't that big a fan of the original series with that obnoxious kid and his stupid robot dog.

And where's Athena? She was one of my favorite characters from the original series.

[Penner]

Grace Park is indeed one of the cutest, and hottest, korean women ive seen aswell :P

We can't really answer your 'Where's Athena?' question without spoiling stuff, unless u want us to that is :P

[Munsu]

I just started watching the first movie from 2003. Pretty good so far, but I have a few comments:

Why is Starbuck a manly woman?
That is the cutest Korean woman I think I've ever seen.
Lots of extras, helps add to the realism.
Apollo looks like a weenie, not as cool as the original.
Lots of CGI, but what else would you expect from a sci-fi show?

Here's hoping the series is as cool as everyone says.
Grace Park gets hotter throughout the series. You should check out her Maxim photoshoot and her in the series The Clearner... she looks amazingly hot.

[Animeniax]

Finished the mini-series, it was very intense and really interesting. Unfortunately they introduced Boxey with the 70s throwback haircut. I'm dreading the appearance of Muffit.

The visual effects they use for the space and flight scenes are amazing. If that's CGI, it's really impressive. It looks more like a combination of models and computer graphics.

@Penner: ok thanks, please no spoilers then.

Anyone else dislike the pilot helmets? The original series helmets with the cool Egyptian pharaoh cobra look were much cooler.

[Penner]

Latest ep was great, not awesome, but great :P

Also, i find Ellen to be a total douchebag.

[rockmanj]

Grace Park gets hotter throughout the series. You should check out her Maxim photoshoot and her in the series The Clearner... she looks amazingly hot.


i agree (http://rocketfuel.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/grace-park-cover-story-2-420.jpg)

darn message limits

[poopdeville]

Starbuck is a young version of Ellen. Tigh just doesn't remember.

Edit: Saw S4E17. Starbuck remembers the Earth Cylon song the final five were all going crazy over. I take this as evidence for last week's claim.

Am I the only one watching this?

[Penner]

Just watched it myself and it was damn good, alot of stuff happened :o

[Board of Command]

Goddamn it... Boomer is such a bitch. She's a true villain.

[rockmanj]

I wouldn't go that far. I think she's kind of representative (i.e, a victim) of the larger problems in both the human and cylon civilizations. Before she knew she was a cylon, she was fairly normal. Then she turns out to have this 'programming' that made her to bad things; yet she wasn't aware of them, which confused her, and you should remember that 8's tend to be more emotional than other cylons. When she finally finds out what she is, she's spurned by the "man" she loves, tries to off herself, and was basically thrown to the wolves.
When she rejoins her people, they try to box her for going against their crazy genocidal plans (which on the other side. many endorse, including Roslin; but that's another story). So she tries to help the humans, who spurn her, she see Helo and Athena with something she could never have, and is basically Cavil's fuck doll, which is just creepy, and enough to drive one crazy in itself. I'm not saying she didnt do bad things, because she totally did. But I wouldn't go so far as to say she's evil. She's more just like a product of her environment.

[Board of Command]

Maybe she didn't start out as someone evil, but everything she's doing right now is under her own accord. She deceived the Chief and played with his feelings, and that wasn't because she was confused or anything. She straight out betrayed the only person who actually cared for her and fought for her freedom, and none of that was programmed into her brain.

[Animeniax]

I've seen through episode 9 of season 1 and I'm completely not feeling this series. I watched the miniseries and thought it was awesome and really looked forward to this show, so then I watched the first 8 episodes almost in a marathon. I kept watching and watching waiting for this magic that everyone said exists in the show, but so far it just lacks any plot or characters that I really care about.

Basically it's humans being dumb and messing with each other just with a sci-fi backdrop instead of the usual Beverly Hills backdrop. None of the characters are particularly appealing (including the cute Korean chick who I admit was one of the main reasons I started watching this show). The first episode was intense with the 33 minutes plot, but after that it's just been blah. I'm fully expecting Muffet to show up and I'll give up on this show.

Please please please someone tell me season 2 makes this series worth watching.

[Penner]

Yeah um...i disliked this show and thought it was almost completely damn boring the entire series with the exception of Gaius Baltar, man that guy delivers ;P..anyway.. it gets somewhat better later on but not much...but season 4 has completely rocked the fucking pants of the previous ones by miles, especially the later half of it...if u stick with it its totally worth it imo ^^

Edit:
I had not seen the original BSG so i did not know any of the characters before i started watching this.

[poopdeville]

I've seen through episode 9 of season 1 and I'm completely not feeling this series. I watched the miniseries and thought it was awesome and really looked forward to this show, so then I watched the first 8 episodes almost in a marathon. I kept watching and watching waiting for this magic that everyone said exists in the show, but so far it just lacks any plot or characters that I really care about.

Basically it's humans being dumb and messing with each other just with a sci-fi backdrop instead of the usual Beverly Hills backdrop. None of the characters are particularly appealing (including the cute Korean chick who I admit was one of the main reasons I started watching this show). The first episode was intense with the 33 minutes plot, but after that it's just been blah. I'm fully expecting Muffet to show up and I'll give up on this show.

Please please please someone tell me season 2 makes this series worth watching.

If you don't like it by now, you probably won't. It's more than just "Melrose Space" though. There will be some sweet military victories soon. And some of the Cylons will repent. And some will be revealed. There is always the threat of sleeper agents. The last season has been pretty intense, too.

[Animeniax]

I've seen the original series and it was pretty cool with the exception of some of the stuff targeting the younger audience (Boxey and Muffett), but essentially it was the same thing: people do dumb shit on different planets that gets them in trouble.

Episode 11 of season 1 was pretty cool with the discovery and character development (especially with Boomer and Helo on Caprica). Waiting for disk 5 to arrive with its one measly episode to finish season 1. I'm going to try season 2 and hope it's more compelling.

[Assassin]

Oh my god....im speechless.

Greatest show EVER!

[Inazuma]

It's like having ...

No it's like nothing else.
What an end ...

[Assassin]

This series probably had the best, most closure inducing ending ever. Extremely well done.

[Inazuma]

Assassin, you'll agree that, having the closure unfolding as a theory of evolution (Macross Zero Style) is pretty bold and brought with style.

Too bad, the Special Effects Sucked.

[Animeniax]

I'm in the middle of season 2.5. The show has really picked up and been pretty fantastic throughout season 2 and 2.5. Definitely worth watching.

[animus]

Did you download the series or streaming it? Since I saw the Caprica pilot I felt the urge to want to watch the series, though I don't have the HD space or patience to download it in bulk.

[Animeniax]

Renting them from Netflix.

[Animeniax]

Wow, just saw the season 3 finale, pretty amazing stuff. What a bomb, 4 of the final 5 Cylons revealed (or is it a hoax) and you get a good idea of who the 5th and final Cylon is.

So in summary so far, season 1 is so-so, season 2 is kick-ass, season 3 had its ups and downs but starts and ends kick-ass. Here's hoping season 4 is as awesome as the previous two.

[Penner]

Season 4 is in my opinion by far the best season :P

[Assassin]

just out of curiosity, who do you think the final cylon is?

[rockmanj]

You mean "Daniel", the one that was boxed? I'm pretty sure he is, well, boxed.

[Inazuma]

Too bad this show had poor SFX

[Y]

You mean "Daniel", the one that was boxed? I'm pretty sure he is, well, boxed.

Daniel was not boxed; we do not know what happened to the Daniel model.

[Animeniax]

just out of curiosity, who do you think the final cylon is?

Well I thought it was Starbuck but of course that's wrong.

I finished season 4 and the series today. Pretty amazing series.

It's not the complete end though. According to tv.com there's a movie coming out on SciFi in Nov 2009 about the lead up to the Cylon attack on Caprica.

[rockmanj]

Glad you stuck with it! I didn't like the way a few things ended (starbuck) but overall, great series. And Cavill didn't box Daniel, per se, but rather, corrupted his genetic code, so that no more could be made. Interestingly, the creator of the cylons' name is Daniel.

[poopdeville]

Don't forget about the series "Caprica". It's the story of the creation of the Cylons on Caprica and leads up to the first war. We will be seeing "Daniel" there. Kind of cheesy, but the Adama family is involved...

[Animeniax]

Glad you stuck with it! I didn't like the way a few things ended (starbuck) but overall, great series. And Cavill didn't box Daniel, per se, but rather, corrupted his genetic code, so that no more could be made. Interestingly, the creator of the cylons' name is Daniel.
I thought the spirits thing was out there but worked somehow. I love how the visions of Hera tied everything together in the end. Starbuck's farewell was eerie and supernatural, but again, it worked somehow. I do like how everything was concluded and the fate of the fleet.

I don't know if I could get into these pre-war side projects. I imagine anything from these writers and producers would be fantastic, but I'd miss a BSG without the characters we've come to know and care about.

[Inazuma]

Caprica needs action, I nearly fell asleep watching it. Doesnt have the heart warming atmosphere of Eureka, nor the action package of BSG. Just drama revolving around future, tech, and bots.

[Assassin]

does any one know when caprica will actually start? There was the pilot ep that aired a while back, but i haven't seen anything since.....maybe that was just a leaked version.

[rockmanj]

No, I'm pretty sure the actual DVD has been out. It starts in 2010; not sure when. http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Caprica-Press-Release/11265

[David75]

zombie thread attack!

I warn you guys, If you liked stargate, and watched all the eps from SG1 to Universe and even watched the movie (I've seen it in a theater, original run...).
If you thought the darkness of Universe was nice but too diluted in fillers and sex body exchanges.

Well BSG might be for you.
You get darkness
You have almost no eye candy, just the minimum needed to remind you this is a Sci-Fi show. And even there, you keep wondering how they are so low-tech at times. You get plenty of mind/body switches, but nicely done.
Nothing is pure white or pure black, always shades of grey and dark. No pure evil, no pure good. Just two races fighting one for survival, the other for some kind of redemption or ascension.

Ok, to tell you the truth, this show has many if not lots of things I do not like in the details, some plot shortcomings and all.
But the main sotry, the strong line connecting all events, really is something. You tend to easily forget the shortcomings and really go deep into the story.

I wonder how it is possible I didn't watch it sooner. I guess that's because we had a run of eps here in France and I thought it was not that good in special effects and the atmosphere felt lacking. Just because the eps were not in the right order... so it was impossible to get the accumulation from seemingly totally unrelated eps.

I'm in the 10 first minutes of Season 2 ep 18. And I love that show. I know I'll take some time to finish it, because it can be a little boring at times, some eps do feel underpowered. But in the long run I keep loving it more and more.

If you don't know about BSG and like Sci-Fi, give it a try or you'll regret every minute you postponed your first contact to that universe.

[Y]

Stargate SG1 is fucking hideous man.

[Animeniax]

BSG is indeed an awesome series worth watching. You can't really compare it to SG1 beyond the fact they are both sci-fi shows. BSG was a great re-imagining of an original series. SG1 tried miserably to expand on a so-so movie. Regardless of how you feel about SG1, watch BSG. Even Razor is worth seeing.