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NeoBear
Wed, 12-21-2005, 01:59 AM
http://bleachportal.org:6969/t...105b9d11edac94f52ad1bc (http://bleachportal.org:6969/torrents/%5BBleach-Society%5DBleach_-_62%5BXviD%5D%5B8E66AA93%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash= 9842db66aea5962ce0105b9d11edac94f52ad1bc)
sorry im not sure how to change it so it dont look like funky code =/
Jadugar
Wed, 12-21-2005, 02:04 AM
What are you waiting for ?
Bleach 62 - ( DB ) (http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/b62.torrent)
Bleach 62 - ( Bleach Society ) (http://bleachportal.org:6969/)
Bleach 62 - ( DatteBOING ) (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BDatteBoing%5D_Bleach_-_62_%5B16D56D9B%5D.avi.torrent)
Munsu
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:53 AM
Nice episode...
So no Bleach till January 10... and it's an 1 hour special...
Hopefully this small gap will prevent a filler arc from happening.
NeoBear
Wed, 12-21-2005, 05:17 AM
When that fucker took his glasses off and slicked back his hair i fell out my shit, that was pimp lol =)
KoKo37
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:05 AM
hmmm wasn't that good of an espisode imo. It was kinda lame how Everyone lived, they cant even kill off one character -.-", also i found it kinda lame how everyone was all happy and getting healed at the end and how Aizen and his group riggedly teleported out of there, but like "NeoBear" said it was pretty pimp how he took of his glasses and slicked his hair lol. anyways overall i just would of preferd a little sadder / more action type of ending i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif. anyways gotta wait 2 weeks for more Bleach now T.T.
Jadugar
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:56 AM
Aizen lives to fight another day
A lot of things have been explained.
So finally Byakuya came to save her sister or should it be sister-in-law.
Nobody died not even Hinamori. I was looking forward to her funeral.
Aizen did a lot of planning and even joined with Menos. What will he do next?
Kensee
Wed, 12-21-2005, 07:01 AM
I much prefred the way the Manga did it .. there were a few changes in the anime that I thought they shouldn't of changed.
They left out this entire part:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Kensee/manga-rainbleach-ch177-09.png
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Kensee/manga-rainbleach-ch177-10-11.png
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Uhh ... I didn't like DB's translations, here and there, therew ould be a line or two that didn't really match. They made things a bit more confusing then they really are haha but it okay.
Just to clarify ... yes Aizen did a lv 90 blast spell without the enchanemtn which is PISS HARD as helll to do, but he is unable to use the spell at it's full power without the enchanemnt. He's not that skillful .. yet ...
So lil translation buffs here and there .. but I liked the episode, Azien friekn rocked it when he broke his glasses and slicked back his hair. I especially loved his quotes ...
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Kensee/manga-rainbleach-ch178-15.png
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Kensee/manga-rainbleach-ch178-16-17.png
That's a dramatic pose!
All in all, good closure a bit ... and HA! I laugh to all you guys who thought bayaka was a son of an itch jerk who was nit picky on the rules. THE MAN HAS HEART and ya'll judged him bahhh~!!!! FOR SHAME!
He was torned in two, and couldn't shead tears. Would any lesser man done the same? I think so!
To close, we finally comfrim that .. YES the thing was inside Rukia and not inside Ichigo -_- for the recrod that argument went wayy to far then needed.
Wooww cool episode, Menos grandes, slicked back aizen, and an hour special comming up. Good times and hope this delay prevents any fillers from comming =D.
KoKo37
Wed, 12-21-2005, 07:18 AM
All in all, good closure a bit ... and HA! I laugh to all you guys who thought bayaka was a son of an itch jerk who was nit picky on the rules. THE MAN HAS HEART and ya'll judged him bahhh~!!!! FOR SHAME!
He was torned in two, and couldn't shead tears. Would any lesser man done the same? I think so!
To close, we finally comfrim that .. YES the thing was inside Rukia and not inside Ichigo -_- for the recrod that argument went wayy to far then needed.
Wooww cool episode, Menos grandes, slicked back aizen, and an hour special comming up. Good times and hope this delay prevents any fillers from comming =D.
well personly i would of liked Bayaka to stay on his evil side instead of getting all emotional, also i dont really like his background story much -.-, and well um as far as i read *most* people though the orb was still inside Rukia though the powers got transferd to Ichigo. anyways i dont think it'll prevent fillers because its an hour long espisode and it shows in two weeks so i dont get how that could help i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif, anyways hopfully they'll just take a year break but they probally wont T.T.
/.\/0t3 : also i only read a few pages about the gigai thing so maybe lots of other peep thought it was *In* Ichico i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif. and your right about that argument going way to far, it was like half the disscussion actually lol.
3])iT : oh yah and thanks for the manga images XD, man that kinda pisses me off they wouldn't show that. Anyways im gonna go read more of the bleach manga now, at volume 8 atm >: ).
and also to NeoBear to make it change from a funky code just click http not https on the message thing then type in the code then click ok, then type in whatever you want it to say i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif
Munsu
Wed, 12-21-2005, 07:21 AM
It'll still skip over a week, and manga should continue to be released... So it should affect something...
ES
Wed, 12-21-2005, 08:02 AM
Hmm for some odd reason that manga pic reminds me of Iori...
And yes..I did thought of Byakuya as one kick ass bad guy with emphasis on the bad. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
Great ep nonetheless...
DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-21-2005, 08:33 AM
Unbelievably anticlimactic.
"Owp, got my thingy, lets go." The End.
They could have just called this "making a superpowerful badguy for 100 episodes from now".
Aizen is already kicking everyone's ass, and by the time they see him again he's gonna be a Hollow hybrid. Greeeeeat.
It really just felt like this whole arc just ended on a whimper.
Oh, and Byakuya is still an ass.
"It's a good thing you're friend came here and said things that made me change my mind, cause I was totally gonna execute you're ass if he hadn't."
Dionysos
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:27 AM
And after this arc, which will end after the 1 hour special, will come a filler arc, since the next arc isnt finished in the manga?....Yay this will be great!
DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
It'll still skip over a week, and manga should continue to be released... So it should affect something...
But if the episode after is a double, then after two weeks, they are in the exact same spot they'd have been in if they hadn't had a skip.
Munsu
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:42 AM
No, because it airs in the third week...
Have problems in math?
DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:44 AM
Have problems in math?
Just with reading dates apparently.
If they're taking two weeks off then yeah, that's a difference of 1 week.
aznroyale
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:53 AM
sigh no bleach next week
DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-21-2005, 10:12 AM
Or the week after.
RedX1z
Wed, 12-21-2005, 10:13 AM
stop being so dramatic, it's something that happened to you before, and a lot. so, just smile!
el_boss
Wed, 12-21-2005, 10:24 AM
This episode was awesome, there's no arguing that. But the ending of the plot they had built up in the last 61 turned out to be pretty bland. Like Koko said, what is up with everyone being jolly after they have witnessed what will become their downfall i.e. Super Aizen. And Terra was right, leaving Unohana alive was just the worst plot-device ever. Just so that no one would die and so that Aizen would get a snappy exit. And the thing about Byakuya was just stupid, like Darthender said, he just needed a complete stranger to tell him what to do instead of listening to his own "sister". It was kind of surprising though that he came to her rescue, but why did he just stand there and take Gin's blade trough the heart instead of flash-stepping the hell out of there.
One good thing came out of this episode though, we now have some more clues towards solving the mystery of Ichigo's hollow. Apparently Urahara was an expert (or at least adept) at grafting things to souls. Well I guess we indirectly new this already since we knew about how Rukia got the hougyoku. But I think this strenghtens the idea that Urahara wanted Ichigo to become hollowish. It's not impossible that Urahara "planted" a hollow spirit inside Ichigo and used the pit to awaken it.
@Kensee: That giant fight was rather ignorable. I guess they just tought it wasn't worth it to animate the for a 5 second fight.
Some random notes:
Aizen plant arm was cool.
The lvl 90 spell was sort of similar to Byakuya's shikai/bankai which renders his whole speciality somewhat useless.
Gin actually didn't smile.
Aizen really likes to reveal all the details of his plans. Maybe he likes the sound of his own voice.
Whithout his glasses, Aizen looks like Guts (from berserk).
ES
Wed, 12-21-2005, 10:50 AM
I dont mind having no bleach for 2 weeks if it means less fillers I guess...
darkmetal505
Wed, 12-21-2005, 11:03 AM
finally the truth comes out
nests
Wed, 12-21-2005, 11:29 AM
wasnt there some more story with Tousen Iliked the episode though I would of like seen those big guys.
Aizen looks rather cool with his hair back and no glasses also I wonder whats the real story behind Matsumoto and Gin
RedX1z
Wed, 12-21-2005, 11:36 AM
wow, what a touching relationship with rukia and byakuya. a round of applause to the enemies, aizen, gin, and tousen. their roles seem to suit them very well. anyways, when gin said "i'm sorry.." with a kind face, it gets me wondering if gin is also brainwashed or does he have his own intentions. and on further note, i'm sure the wait for the next episode will be worth it.
naruto22
Wed, 12-21-2005, 11:38 AM
I wonder why everybody hates Unohana taichou so much that they want her dead?
Sigh.
Anyway, I take all my hate towards Byakuya back. The guy is just a confused kid after all. And it took a stranger stronger than him to finally prove him wrong.
I wished all the Captains would have a go at trying to kill Aizen. That way they can make Aizen even more uber cool by defeating all of them and then walk away from Soul Society, rather than having his ass saved by Hollows.
Bloody faggot, I wonder how many captains does it take to take him down. OK, apparently two as Yoruichi and Soi Fon has shown.
Guess the Bleach team will get a vacation.
Jadugar
Wed, 12-21-2005, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by: naruto22
Next episode, Ikkaku and Ichigo gonna have some smashin fun while Kenpachi eagerly waits his turn.
I guess you havent read this.
Next person to post a spoiler in this forum gets banned (http://forums.gotwoot.net/messageview.cfm?catid=51&threadid=17078&enterthrea d=y)
naruto22
Wed, 12-21-2005, 12:11 PM
Changed. Sigh, its not like we're spoiling the manga, we're talking about an episode that has already happened.
Ah well, another 3 weeks before next Bleach.
Giboc
Wed, 12-21-2005, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by: Jadugar
Originally posted by: naruto22
http://img381.imageshack.us/im...013/1jspspoiler6tp.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8013/1jspspoiler6tp.jpg)
I guess you havent read this.
Next person to post a spoiler in this forum gets banned (http://forums.gotwoot.net/messageview.cfm?catid=51&threadid=17078&enterthrea d=y)
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8013/1jspspoiler6tp.jpg
Edit: Editting out a http://img381.imageshack.us/im...13/1jspspoiler6tp.jpg? (http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8013/1jspspoiler6tp.jpg?)
darkmetal505
Wed, 12-21-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by: naruto22
I wonder why everybody hates Unohana taichou so much that they want her dead?
No one hates Unohana. Whered you get this from?
Turkish-S
Wed, 12-21-2005, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by: darkmetal505
Originally posted by: naruto22
I wonder why everybody hates Unohana taichou so much that they want her dead?
No one hates Unohana. Whered you get this from?
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i hate Unohana taichou
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i hate Unohana taichou
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Originally posted by: naruto22
i hate Unohana taichou
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i hate Unohana taichou
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LMAO @ giboc
mage
Wed, 12-21-2005, 12:58 PM
haha to all you people that thought unohana was with aizen
Jadugar
Wed, 12-21-2005, 01:19 PM
I hate Unohana taichou.i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 01:53 PM
did it surprise anyone else that after aizen finger raped like 5 people he got taken hostage by 2, who werent even released or using bankai
Edit=for the record, i knew aizen couldnt be so nice with his gigantic size, look at him, hes as big as zaraki
Knives122
Wed, 12-21-2005, 02:08 PM
well in the situation Aizen was in he was going to get owned in every meaning of the word so he decided to wait till his "backup" arrived
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 02:16 PM
yes, but i thought since there was tousen, aizen and gin, tousen would bankai so no one can see then gin would extend his sword through everyone. captain #1 would break free of the bankai and have a 1 on 1 duel wiht aizen THEN aizen would run away
Originally posted by: el_boss
Gin actually didn't smile.
what are you talking about? he always smiles
thar
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1880/sdgfdsgfdsg0ep.jpg
look closely
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4614/fdgdfgdfs2gi.jpg
Turkish-S
Wed, 12-21-2005, 02:36 PM
watch the 13:14 minute of the ep agean.
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 02:53 PM
interesting, i think it would have been better if he had opened his eyes tho
Kensee
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by: Fudgeman
interesting, i think it would have been better if he had opened his eyes tho
If he opend his eyes .. that would be very freaky. Ithink he looks badarese when he opens them.
And yes I still think they should of added the giants in, because they looked cool and you actually get to see our freindly lil giant throw a punch that connects instead of getting beaten (by ichigo when they first met).
Uhh ... not much else to say but I think bayaka opening up was good because nwo you know he had a purpose and internal struggle (makings of a good and remembered character), and just didnt do everything because he HAD to follow the rules.
Anyone else find Tossen's logic a little off? " These eyes only see the path pathed with less blood or something like that ..... blah blah ... so whatever path I walk is justice" ... -_-
This guy needs a drop kick then get his arse handed to him again by Kenpachi.
Hey, Gin is actually quite strong ... I mean think about it, Ganji was able to stand under Bayaka's restu and he was strunging the same under Gin's (im not saying that abyaka and gin are same strength .. ) which makes me believe Gin could possibly a crazy arse mofo (and a dangerious one at that), we never did see his full power as the only time he fought he was playing around.
Is it me or in the flashback ... Aizen said he was the Vice-Captain? :i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gifun dun dunnnnn::
K i'm done ... hooohaa merry holidays all.
XanBcoo
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:42 PM
I thought this was a really good episode. At least it provides some closure to how Rukia got to SS.
I really liked seeing more of Tousen's past, but now I really hate the guy. He seemed like such an awesome character at first (one of my favorite captains), now he's just confused himself with weird logic. I'll have to rewatch his scenes to see if I can figure out why he's on Aizen's side.
I also liked Byakuya's revelation. I was suprised Rukia had a sister, and now I think Byakuya's character has been more fully fleshed out. You get to see why he was such a jerk, but understand that he truly cares for Rukia, and was willing to do anything to fulfill Hisana's dying wish.
I won't be able to download Bleach for a while, so I'm glad there's gonna be a break i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:46 PM
i think rukia needs a major buff, rewatching the episode i realized how weak she is compared to everyone else now. i bet someone from 4th squad could own her
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:46 PM
Edit=sorry for double, post there was a posting mixup
Turkish-S
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by: Kensee
Anyone else find Tossen's logic a little off? " These eyes only see the path pathed with less blood or something like that ..... blah blah ... so whatever path I walk is justice" ... -_-
This guy needs a drop kick then get his arse handed to him again by Kenpachi.
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am i the only one thinking tousen has lost on purpose and it also was in the masterplan of aizen.. Like getting deafeated by kenpachi then saying "ow i'm gotta get some medicene from that uber people that can revive dead people".. and then catching rukia without getting cought...
anphorus
Wed, 12-21-2005, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by: Fudgeman
did it surprise anyone else that after aizen finger raped like 5 people he got taken hostage by 2, who werent even released or using bankai
Edit=for the record, i knew aizen couldnt be so nice with his gigantic size, look at him, hes as big as zaraki
I think that Aizen just knew his back-up was coming, so he decided not to do anything. I'm sure that Aizen could have annihilated both Yorichi and Soi Fong without breaking a sweat, he's already wasted Ice-Dragon-Hitsugaya with one slash, stopped Ichigo's bankai with one finger and caught Fox-dude's giant-hand-shikai attack.
I like how Aizen's plan came off absolutely perfectly, he had planned for every possible complication, I'm sick of seeing villains who form huge complex plans and get beat by a team of unlikely heroes out for adventure. Love the symbolism of the hairstyle change and the glasses crushing, casting off the old guise of the Gotei 13 captain and finally embracing and announcing to the world his true self and all that.
I've said it before, and I'm gonna keep saying it until the message is burned into the back of everyone's retinas: Aizen Sousuke is the man!
Originally posted by: Kensee
Is it me or in the flashback ... Aizen said he was the Vice-Captain? :un dun dunnnnn::
K i'm done ... hooohaa merry holidays all.
Well what did you expect, that he just showed up at the Gotei 13 recruitment office one day and was instantly promoted to captain? i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif All of the captains must've been vice at one point.
Concering Gin: I've always liked Gin, as a character. I loved how he just fired up his reiatsu and Team Good-guys were totally overwhelmed. I think that Gin's apparent inability to hurt Matsumoto will eventually be significant when time comes for the Final Showdown, because he didn't even try to do anything once Matsumoto caught him he just said "I'm captured" and gave up! He's obviously a lot more complex than he first appears.
As much as I like the main characters, I'm secretely rooting for the bad team.
Except Tousen, he's just a complete asshole.
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by: anphorus
As much as I like the main characters, I'm secretely rooting for the bad team.
Except Tousen, he's just a complete asshole.
same here
but to symbolize hes not a captain shouldnt he throw off his white cloak? they look so damn cool but it does mean hes a captainand not a villain
also back somewhere was aizen as a captain and foxface-gin as his vice captain, which suggested gin didnt murder aizen before we found out he was still alive
mage
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:11 PM
in the manga it seemed like aizens hadou 90 spell would have been more dramatic. i was disappointed.
DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by: Fudgeman
i think rukia needs a major buff, rewatching the episode i realized how weak she is compared to everyone else now. i bet someone from 4th squad could own her
To be fair, that thing on her neck keeps her from doing anything power wise. And even that's just IF her powers have ever come back.
Basically, we don't know how powerful Rukia is, because she hasn't had her powers since the first episode.
anphorus
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by: Fudgeman
also back somewhere was aizen as a captain and foxface-gin as his vice captain, which suggested gin didnt murder aizen before we found out he was still alive
Well, most people are killed by people who are close to them. If Gin was insane enough he could've done it. Or he could've just hated his captain, think about a more extreme version of the Byakuya- Renji relationship
masamuneehs
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:24 PM
Next episode is in January? I CANT WAIT THAT LONG!!! Oh the humanity!
Tousen = worst SS character. They tried to portray him as a badass, but I feel his motives come off as forced. He doesn't seem to have any direction, just a lackey.
Gin = stupid in the past two episodes. Not lifting a finger to help Aizen all those times? Come on man! He did look sympathetic towards Matsumoto... I still want to hear that story...
Byakuya's story was not what I expected at all. The whole Hisana being related to Rukia I sorta saw (i mean, they look exactly alike), but his vowing never to break the rules again... They should've done more backstory on his upbringing and parents, because I felt like his decision to just let Rukai get executed (rather than uphold the promise to Hisana) didn't fit at all with his character in this episode.
DarthEnderX
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:34 PM
So if Hisana and Rukia are sisters and they look alike maybe Ichigo and Kaien are brothers.
Ichigo have a brother that died when he was too young to remember?
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by: DarthEnder
To be fair, that thing on her neck keeps her from doing anything power wise. And even that's just IF her powers have ever come back.
Basically, we don't know how powerful Rukia is, because she hasn't had her powers since the first episode.
the fact that rukia even HAD to transfer her powers makes her weak, ichigo had no training at all and he beat the same hollow, it wasnt very powerful.
since she has the neck thing and even without it her powers still wouldnt come back, theres no way she could have gotten any stronger since day 1
so to conclude, if rukia ever gets her powers back, which i suspect because the thing was removed from her, she will only be a strong as in ep 1, which was really weak to start with
Edit=
Originally posted by: Fudgeman
the fact that rukia even HAD to transfer her powers makes her weak
woah i sound liek sumone from bleach who is displeased with rukia
Terracosmo
Wed, 12-21-2005, 05:07 PM
I didn't find this anticlimatic at all. It finishes off the SS arc by giving an explanation to everything. Aizen kept owning everybody so it would probably keep up that way until he killed everyone unless he left. Which he did. Also, he is so incredibly awesome. The glasses-crushing scene is still one of my favorite moments in Bleach.
Speaking of awesome, there is also Byakuya. When I read this in the manga, it sealed my Byakuya fandom i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
FrogKing
Wed, 12-21-2005, 05:17 PM
Checked out this episode and thought it was good at parts and kinda a let down at other times. Byakuya back story, good. Aizen throwing away his former SS trinkets, good. Bad guys 'beam-me-up-Scotty' exit, letdown. None of the Captains getting a good shot at Aizne, letdown. All-in-all I was still very entertained by the Soi Fong/Yoruichi/Shiba entrance! Love those ladies!
@Darth: like the Kaien/Ichigo connection. It is the only one that makes sense now.
@Kensee the Manga Prophet: The , "I laugh to all you guys who thought..." or the "for the record the argument went on waay too long" comments bug the shit out of me. First off, not all of us are incredibly wise and read the manga ahead of time to know what is going to happen in the anime, so no need to gloat in the anime forum. Second, I bet that you were just as surprised as we were that Byakuya actually had motives beyond being a simple rule stickler, so again no need to gloat. Just because you read the manga doesn't make you a superior intellect and all of us retarded cavemen. Sorry I am venting at you, I guess I am still bent at what somebody posted in another forum with a big spoiler just to show that he knew what we didn't.
Thanks for the pics btw; its always nice to see how the anime differs from the manga.
@Jadugar: I was wrong. I thought for sure that Hinamori would bite the big one and that Hits would make it. I really wish she would die dammit! Her dead body surrounded by all the captains and vices would have made a nice ending. Also, the plot device formerly known as Unohana can die too.
Lastly, Tousen is not the most likeable character right now, but I think that Komamura will pound the shit out of him and he'll see the error of his ways.
January doesn't seem so bad to wait. Now I am wondering if there will be fillers shorty because this arc is almost over. Guess we'll have to wait till after the 10th.
ChaosK
Wed, 12-21-2005, 05:24 PM
ahh byakuya's step in was great. aizen's plan was flawless. Gin's emotions for once were priceless.
Yukimura
Wed, 12-21-2005, 05:37 PM
@ Fudgeman
If you remember, Rukia got hurt because she ran in to take a hit for Ichigo, we never saw her do anything other than swing her sword around and use her body for shielding, so there's no way to know if she's got some goods or not, and also, Ichigo took her powers initially so something of her must have been contributerd to him before he got whipped by Byakuya.
That reminds me, was that giant katana Ichigo used to have Rukia's Soul Slayer beeefeed up by Ichigo's power? Zangetsu didn't show up until after Byakuya killed the powers Rukia gave him, I wonder if Ichigo had trained more would Ichigo have eventually released Zangetsu or whatever Rukia's Soul Slayer is...
Back on topic, Aizen is so pimp that even the hollows do what he wants, though I'd guess he might have had previous arrangements with them from all his weird experiments...Can't wait to find out, Please no fillers, or if theyre must be fillers...lets see some good fillers! Make up something about things we didn't see, Ichigo achieving Bankai, Aizen dominating people, or maybe send Ichigo and Rukia back to earth and let's seee if she's actually got any juice.
Assertn
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:21 PM
How disappointing....I don't even look forward to the next bleach ep now.
Bleach always struck me as a show with an unusually large amount of plot devices
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:23 PM
the giant katana ichigo had was his own, its the same one as zangetsu, its just that ichigo doesnt control his spirit power well so zengetsu is always released. if he learned to supress his power it would look like it originally did
heero
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by: Kensee
Is it me or in the flashback ... Aizen said he was the Vice-Captain? :un dun dunnnnn::
now it makes me think Gin can only shikai and the only reason he became a captain is because of Aizen's hypnosis.
el_boss
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:26 PM
@Yukimura: We discussed the Ichigo zanpaktou issue in the ep 61 discussion thread. I think you could find some useful info there.
Why is everyone hating Tousen so much? I think he still is cool. I mean he's a total psykopath. He wants to deliver his justice to the world without any regard to what anyone else says/wants/thinks.
I'm really psyked about seing the trio of evil as hollows. Wonder if Tousen's hollow-mask will be black.
Paithan
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:42 PM
Is it me or has Rukia been VERY small since the failed execution? o.O
heero
Wed, 12-21-2005, 06:51 PM
lol its one of the side effects for shinigamis when they lost their powers for too long i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif
el_boss
Wed, 12-21-2005, 07:03 PM
Maybe the guys at "shinigami bodies 'R' us" gave her a smaller body just to mess with her.
V
Wed, 12-21-2005, 07:53 PM
It's funny that I had a sigh of relief when I saw that there was a 2 week hiatus istead of fillers. Fillers scare the life out of me.
Aizen and Gin, especially Gin, are the coolest bad guys ever. But the blind guy seems gay. Not sure what it is, but if I saw him in a bar, I'd be watching my back pocket.
Wasn't the guy (store-owner) who had Kon and helped Ichigo train early on know about this soul thing. Is this the person that Aizen was talking about? I had a hard time following considering I can't remember all the names. He seems to have quite the reputation. Did they not say he was banished or something? So what's in that diamond? Looks like that thing that "creates" Kon. Is that another soul that was created specifically for fighting? A half-soul/half-hollow crazy fighting machine? That would rock.
This hellish world also poses some mysteries as we haven't seen much of it since the start of the series. Who controls it? There seems to be something pulling all the strings. Moreso than this Aizen posse. Can't wait for next episode even if it is a while off.
Fudgeman
Wed, 12-21-2005, 08:13 PM
im not even gunna answer that, watch the version with subtitles, not the raw nub...
Assertn
Wed, 12-21-2005, 08:17 PM
Tousen is the very definition of "rebel without a cause"
el_boss
Wed, 12-21-2005, 08:22 PM
@V: I'm not trying to be condecending now but it seems like you haven't seen the last couple of episodes. You can find answers to most of your questions in the the previus discussions and some in the Ichigo hollow thread?
But a brief summary (taken from the Ichigo hollow thread)
-Urahara (the shop manager) creates hougyou tries to destroy it but fails so he seals it inside Rukia.
-Urahara gets exiled for creating a gigai (faux body) that's untraceable and drains spirit power instead of restoring it.
-skip a few days/months/years however long it was since then
-Rukia is wounded by Hollow
-Rukia transfers powers to Ichigo
-Ichigo wins, runs off to check on family
-Urahara comes up to a beat up Rukia, and asks if she needs/wants a gigai.
-Rukia goes into said gigai, but unbeknownst to her, it slowly starts making her into a human. So that the location of the hougyoku will be lost forever.
-Aizen finds out about the Hougyouku being inside Rukia.
-Aizen makes it so that Byakuya and Renji are sent to retrieve Rukia and the wheels are set in motion.
FrogKing
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:09 PM
Man I love using this pic (special thanks to Xan).
@V:
Originally posted by: XanBcoo
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ES
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by: DarthEnder
To be fair, that thing on her neck keeps her from doing anything power wise. And even that's just IF her powers have ever come back.
Basically, we don't know how powerful Rukia is, because she hasn't had her powers since the first episode.
I believe she mentioned something about being a excellent user of demon magic at one of the starting episodes...
darkmetal505
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:41 PM
she could use spells, she said that when fighting the hollow that ate the bird's mom. She said that even a simple spell like that had little effect or something.
darkmetal505
Wed, 12-21-2005, 09:41 PM
she could use spells, she said that when fighting the hollow that ate the bird's mom. She said that even a simple spell like that had little effect or something.
ES
Wed, 12-21-2005, 10:31 PM
Oooh...Double posts..
Anyway..I may need to rewatch a few episodes to get back to you on that then.
Vegechan
Wed, 12-21-2005, 11:47 PM
Byakuya mentions how his story is 15 years long. 15 years ago, Rukia was just a baby, putting her in the 15 - 16 range. But didn't she claim to be much much older in the first episode? Saying she was hundreds of years old or something?
The back story of Byakuya was interesting. Explained it perfectly I thought. Even with the fight with Ichigo I still didn't totally get him.
Also seems as if Gin wanted Masumto to go with him, as with the "Ah, if you didn't move away so soon..." But when he apologized to her... His face seemed so sincere. It was, freaky actually.
I'm wondering what's up with Inoue's healing powers. I mean, the 4th Squad captian seems surprised by it for some reason.
Aizen smashing the glasses and slicking the hair was pretty awesome. That line, "I will be the one to stand in heaven." So cool.
Shame to hear Bleach will be on a two week hiatus, but can't wait for the hour long episode.
Kensee
Wed, 12-21-2005, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by: FrogKing
@Kensee the Manga Prophet: The , "I laugh to all you guys who thought..." or the "for the record the argument went on waay too long" comments bug the shit out of me. First off, not all of us are incredibly wise and read the manga ahead of time to know what is going to happen in the anime, so no need to gloat in the anime forum. Second, I bet that you were just as surprised as we were that Byakuya actually had motives beyond being a simple rule stickler, so again no need to gloat. Just because you read the manga doesn't make you a superior intellect and all of us retarded cavemen. Sorry I am venting at you, I guess I am still bent at what somebody posted in another forum with a big spoiler just to show that he knew what we didn't.
Thanks for the pics btw; its always nice to see how the anime differs from the manga.
Haha well when I said " I laugh" I didnt mean that i was chuckling in the background cause I read ahead. I acutally like Bayaka a lot because he's quite the soldier. He's not the most phsyical person of all the capatinas, but hes very skill ful in magic spells, footwoork, and sword skill which makes him one of my top villans .. well he's considered good now, but before he was pretty badarse =D.
I figured before I read something was up, but no no I never intended to portray the image that I am more intellegent or superior to anyone (no one is and should think that they are), so I apologized if you got that vibe off it. I'm just saying I felt bad for bayaka when I read it because I thought from the begining he was misunderstood (just in general, back from when we first saw a picture of the lady who looked like ruika .. that tiped me off big time that this guy had a lot of character development in play).
^_^ I try my best not to post any spoilers and stuff like that, I acutally get anxious to see how poeple will react to different scenes (trust me .. manga people STILL are anxious about how the anime will turn out because heck .. its animated =D). And yes .. Frogking .. you dont have to apologzie for venting =P its a Fourm, you got the right to speak what ya want n stuff.
Note: yes you guys are allowed to reply to this with that LAST WEEK picture that keeps comming up since this is a reply to something that happend about 2 pages ago ^_^. Once again ... to conlcude, bayaka rockies, Aizen pwns, and Kepachi is sexy. Back to playing UT2k4 laterss all.
Edit: Can you PM me what was the spoiler someone posted in the other thread was about? I didn't see anything like that.
Fudgeman
Thu, 12-22-2005, 01:25 AM
what made bayaka a villain? last i checked untill aizen was discovered ichigo was the villain breaking in the soul society
i jsut realized, aizen said god nor angels came to heaven first or sumthing but isnt soul society heaven?
RedX1z
Thu, 12-22-2005, 01:29 AM
no one was ever a villain until they revealed aizen, everyone before that just had different point of views. ichigo and the others were enemies, because they broke into soul society and attacked the death gods. death gods were just their enemies, because they had no choice and they kept getting in their way.
Cal_kashi
Thu, 12-22-2005, 02:14 AM
this is exciting.. we now have a super villian. an arch enemy even! awesome.
Sandldan
Thu, 12-22-2005, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by: Vegechan
Byakuya mentions how his story is 15 years long. 15 years ago, Rukia was just a baby, putting her in the 15 - 16 range. But didn't she claim to be much much older in the first episode? Saying she was hundreds of years old or something?
Wasnt it 15 years ago that his wife died, and they could've been togheter many years before that. That's just how i got it but
Kensee
Thu, 12-22-2005, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by: UltxDarkRedX1
no one was ever a villain until they revealed aizen, everyone before that just had different point of views. ichigo and the others were enemies, because they broke into soul society and attacked the death gods. death gods were just their enemies, because they had no choice and they kept getting in their way.
Yes what he said. At one poitn Bayaka and SS was SORT of viewed as villians seeing how Ichigo and gang were being opposed by them.
But yes, now hes viewed as one of the good guys or at least not trying to stop Ichigo and crew.
Originally posted by: Cal_kashi
this is exciting.. we now have a super villian. an arch enemy even! awesome.
Hrm ... does this mean a future battle with Foxface and Tossen will occur?
Cal_kashi
Thu, 12-22-2005, 05:14 AM
I doubt it, as soon as Aizwn is strong enough, I forsee him wither slaying tousen and GIn, or possibly experimenting with them to see what a captn/hollow looks like (before he try's it on himslef) in what way has he demonstrated that He won't jus tuse the two like he did SS in general
Kensee
Thu, 12-22-2005, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by: Cal_kashi
I doubt it, as soon as Aizwn is strong enough, I forsee him wither slaying tousen and GIn, or possibly experimenting with them to see what a captn/hollow looks like (before he try's it on himslef) in what way has he demonstrated that He won't jus tuse the two like he did SS in general
That could be a good possiblility as well ... maybe he only wants Gin and Tossen there so they could be test subjects ... hrm.
Edit: or .. maybe hes a lonely guy .. deep down inside.
oyabun
Thu, 12-22-2005, 07:07 AM
i dont know if this is a spoiler, the episode was out so im not sure,
ill tell it anyway.. tell me if its a spoiler:
*SPOILER???
i think in the manga jindanbo or whatever his name is, defeated the other 3 gatekeepers? it did not show up in the anime right?
Kensee
Thu, 12-22-2005, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by: oyabin
i dont know if this is a spoiler, the episode was out so im not sure,
ill tell it anyway.. tell me if its a spoiler:
*SPOILER???
i think in the manga jindanbo or whatever his name is, defeated the other 3 gatekeepers? it did not show up in the anime right?
Yeah thats right (check the first page of this thread .. I posted the manga strips of that). Well It's not really a spoiler since the time period passed and nothing is really reveiled lol so you're good.
oyabun
Thu, 12-22-2005, 08:30 AM
ph okay, too lazy to browse the first page.. hehe well tnx kenshee
kinda wierd though.. maybe for them it was unnessesary.. .. my friend says "who cares"
Fudgeman
Thu, 12-22-2005, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by: Cal_kashi
I doubt it, as soon as Aizwn is strong enough, I forsee him wither slaying tousen and GIn, or possibly experimenting with them to see what a captn/hollow looks like (before he try's it on himslef) in what way has he demonstrated that He won't jus tuse the two like he did SS in general
I dont think Aizen is the kind of guy to murder his lackeys, except hinamori cuz she wasnt evil enough
maybe tousen, but definatly not gin, hes been behind him 100% since the start
DarthEnderX
Thu, 12-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Yeah, I definatly think Aizen will make the two of them Hollow hybrids also. Every supervillain needs his leutenents to fight the hero's lower powered allies.
ChaosK
Thu, 12-22-2005, 07:21 PM
lol, aizens not gonna kill anybody, he might make them hollow hybrids...but it seems he only has one hoykauygu...thingy and i dont think he would waste it on anybody but himself...unless he has urahara's notes on how to make another, then he'd power boost tousen and gin but we know tousen and gin are still stronger than memos which he has on his side so he wouldnt kill his 2 strongest allies.....and also, i think gin is stronger than tousen, for one thing he hasnt taken a fight seriously yet, and another thing is he's never released past shikai.
anphorus
Thu, 12-22-2005, 07:50 PM
Well it was never once stated that the crumbling treasure is used up when making a hollow-shinigami hybrid, I'm guessing it works just a catalyst, because even with Aizen as a Shin-hollow (and, lets face it, if it was one-time use, he would save it for himself) he wouldn't be able to take on the entire of SS at once.
Fudgeman
Thu, 12-22-2005, 09:35 PM
Tousen sucks menos grande's balls, thats how they escaped
Master_Shikamaru
Fri, 12-23-2005, 02:51 AM
Gah, I hate those freakin menos thingies. They look SOOO stupid! They remind me of those uber lame native shadow puppets that you sometimes see on television! How can you be scared of something that's always smiling and has CURLY SHOES!! OH NOOOEESS!! They may kill you with thier abmormally long and silly looking bodies!
Pfft!
And another annoying thing! I get that Aisen and pals were unreachable when the menos used thier 1337 wall haxxs on them, but why the hell didn't the people in the soul society...I dunnooo...attack the menos using the technique!? Better yet, why the hell didn't yourichi and siphon (sp?) just fucking KILL Aisen when they had him by the balls!? No no no! We must take him prisoner so he can have a trail....Oh wait! He killed all the people in room 46...so no one can judge him....Mmmkay! You're free to go!
RWAR!! This just felt like they were trying to end the arc!! Sloppy!
And I swear....if Rukia's bro doesn't die, I'm going to somehow squirm into SS and kill the bastard myself! Seriously! Someone needs to die in this series! I think that Unohana has some dragonballs in her hair somewhere cause she's brought Renji back from the grave FORTY FUCKING TIMES!! Just die already! Please! I beg you!
Maybe people in SS CAN'T die but everyone pretends like they can cause it's just more dramatic that way...
Kuchiki's wife has just been pretending to be dead for the last 15 years. She takes it very seriously. She rots and everything..
*rot rot rot*
Ok, I'm done ranting.
GOOD EPISODE!! XMOMGG!! BLEACH IS TEH ROXXOR!!!
Fudgeman
Fri, 12-23-2005, 03:14 AM
they kill aizen, then....i have no explanation but there was no way to kill the menos grandes they were so high only gin could reach them and hes on their side, unless they use demon magic but i dont think it would pwn them plus everyones "dead"
and next episode should be when aizen comes down and kills that girl with the gigantic boobs then the white haired kid and zaraki are like bitch, that bitch made us pie we gun make ya scream
(just watched fake episode 60)
(this is the worst post evar)
aznimperialx
Fri, 12-23-2005, 05:36 PM
so much plot twist i/expressions/rolleye.gif
6Zabuza9
Sat, 12-24-2005, 12:39 AM
when byakuya was telling rukia thats she's the sis of his wife. intsead i thought byakuya was gonna say Rukia, i'm your father!!!!!!!! lol
masamuneehs
Sat, 12-24-2005, 01:18 AM
plot devices are a critical foundation of popular anime.
see DBZ, Naruto, Gundam Wing/SEED/Destiny and many others for other examples.
you cant always get what you want.
Yes, I would have made Aizen's blood run directly after pinning him down, but then there wouldn't be any more episodes of Bleach if rationality was a continuous function of anime characters!
DarthEnderX
Sat, 12-24-2005, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by: 6Zabuza9
when byakuya was telling rukia thats she's the sis of his wife. intsead i thought byakuya was gonna say Rukia, i'm your father!!!!!!!! lol
Yeah really, that wasn't exactly the most shocking revalation in history.
"Rukia, you may think I'm just your adoptive brother but I'm actually.........YOUR BROTHER IN LAW!"
GASP!
Kensee
Sat, 12-24-2005, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by: DarthEnder
Originally posted by: 6Zabuza9
when byakuya was telling rukia thats she's the sis of his wife. intsead i thought byakuya was gonna say Rukia, i'm your father!!!!!!!! lol
Yeah really, that wasn't exactly the most shocking revalation in history.
"Rukia, you may think I'm just your adoptive brother but I'm actually.........YOUR BROTHER IN LAW!"
GASP!
Rofl ahh man, Too bad he didn't say that.
BTW hrm ... I don't think Yo and song would have been able to kill Aizen. I know they got him pinned down but he didn't even flinch nor did he looked worried. So I don't know ...
Munsu
Sat, 12-24-2005, 04:28 AM
Cause he knew that the menos would be arriving...
Kensee
Sat, 12-24-2005, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
Cause he knew that the menos would be arriving...
Makes sense, but I'd like to think his neck is chop proof!
Jessper
Sat, 12-24-2005, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
Cause he knew that the menos would be arriving...
or maybe he was completly safe from them due to the illusion? Since everyone that could contend with a captain, except for ichigo, was put under the illusion it would be safe to say that Aizen couldn't have lost to that group, imo.
Munsu
Sat, 12-24-2005, 02:01 PM
Aizen wasn't the only one that was calm and cool about it... all of them were...
mage
Sat, 12-24-2005, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by: Jessper
Originally posted by: Budweineken
Cause he knew that the menos would be arriving...
or maybe he was completly safe from them due to the illusion? Since everyone that could contend with a captain, except for ichigo, was put under the illusion it would be safe to say that Aizen couldn't have lost to that group, imo.
what makes you think ichigo wasnt under the illusion as well
ChaosK
Sat, 12-24-2005, 03:08 PM
and if ichigo wasnt put on, he would be once he saw aizen's blade. and even if that didnt put him on, dont u think ichigo would be like "yoruichi-san! wtf are you grabbing onto? he's over there!"
The Heretic Azazel
Sat, 12-24-2005, 03:19 PM
I think his shikai has already got to Ichigo, I remember a couple episodes back Aizen did a little minor thing of moving his sword from pointing down to pointing up, or something like that, and it made a little sound.
DarthEnderX
Sat, 12-24-2005, 05:16 PM
I don't think he did. I imagine when Ichigo sees him release his shikai they will make a point of making it obvious, like, having Aizen actually call his blade's name.
The Heretic Azazel
Sat, 12-24-2005, 06:36 PM
They could have made it subtle, hypnotiing Ichigo without him even being aware of it. Did Ichigo not see his sword? I think that's all it takes.
DarthEnderX
Sat, 12-24-2005, 08:28 PM
"And the condition for it's use is to show the enemy the moment of Kyouka Suigetsu's release"
That's what Aizen says. In in order for it to fool someone, they actually have to watch him release his shikai. Not just seeing the sword when its already released.
SamuraiX-
Sun, 12-25-2005, 02:24 AM
I've been wondering, what will happen to Rukia now? She is one of, if not, my favorite character(s) in Bleach. I hope we will get to see her just as often in the upcoming epsiodes as in this last arc.
Oh, btw, since Aizen took the Hougyoku out of Rukia's soul, does that mean she will end up becoming a human spirit? I remember Aizen saying something like that, but maybe I didn't fully understand correctly. i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif
On another note, I can't wait to see Ichigo beat the living hell out of that bastard in the next arc. i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif
After what he did to Rukia... at first, I thought he had killed her when taking out the Hougyoku. i/expressions/brokenheart.gif i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif
Munsu
Sun, 12-25-2005, 03:01 AM
What was making her become human was not the hougyoku, but the gigai she had... But she is no longer wearing that, so if she hasn't become human by now, there's no reason to believe she would become one later...
SamuraiX-
Sun, 12-25-2005, 04:13 AM
Yeah, the Gigai, that was it. I didn't really understand fully about what that particular thing was. I know Urahara gave it to her, sometime soon after she gave Ichigo her Death God powers, I believe, but what exactly is it?
Is it something like a soul or a spirit? Thanks in advance! ^_^
Munsu
Sun, 12-25-2005, 07:14 AM
Gigai is the faux body that Rukia used in the real world... It's what she wore so people could see her...
SamuraiX-
Sun, 12-25-2005, 12:05 PM
Ok, that makes sense. So, did Aizen somehow take that away from her as well, or just the Hougyoku?
Munsu
Sun, 12-25-2005, 12:10 PM
The gigai was removed from her when she left the real world...
SamuraiX-
Sun, 12-25-2005, 12:20 PM
LOL! When did we see that?! Did it just happen automatically when she transcended into Soul Society, or did it happen a bit earlier when we were unaware of it?
All I recall was Ichigo sort of saving her from Renji, but then getting beaten down by Byakuya, then Renji opens the doors to Soul Society, and they step through. Did it happen when they were passing through that one dark place that is between the Human World and Soul Society?
Kensee
Sun, 12-25-2005, 01:31 PM
They didn't show Rukia's gigai being removed ... Aizen tells us it happens instead.
SamuraiX-
Sun, 12-25-2005, 02:19 PM
Booo!! That's no fun. :/
Munsu
Sun, 12-25-2005, 04:26 PM
It was made more obvious in the manga, the anime skipped some portions that talked about the gigai, as it has been mentioned thousands of times already in this forum...
SamuraiX-
Sun, 12-25-2005, 08:02 PM
Yeah, I don't really read any of the Manga. :-/
I just think that it's more enjoyable to watch the Anime in moving pictures. ^_^
Thanks for all the info though. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
Mae
Sun, 12-25-2005, 09:43 PM
I actually liked this ep. Aizen was great as a fallen angel, like a cheerful Lucifer. "Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven" and all that. Rukia's backstory was kind of interesting, but I feel like it turned out a little too simple after all the hype. Tousen's story seemed a little lacking... we have no idea who his friend was or why he died, so it's hard to tell what kind of "justice" the guy might be after. And still no clue why his buddy has a fox head instead of a regular human head. But still, not bad at all.
The Heretic Azazel
Sun, 12-25-2005, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by: Mae
"Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven"
But which way I fly is Hell; myself am Hell
Milton in Bleach, rock \m/
el_boss
Mon, 12-26-2005, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by: Mae
we have no idea who his friend was or why he died, so it's hard to tell what kind of "justice" the guy might be after.
Didn't they say a while back that it was his sister? Like around the time he fought Kenpachi.
Munsu
Mon, 12-26-2005, 08:16 AM
I don't think the anime really said who she was in the anime...
If not mistaken, she was simply a friend who he was in love with or something...
hitokirigirl
Mon, 12-26-2005, 02:29 PM
Hell, too many stuff in one episode ^_^
The fest with all captains and lieutenants was too cool.
Damn, Aizen that freak...when I've seen the sky crumbling, I was 99% sure a Menos would appear , hehe.
But first, I thought Aizen wanted to destroy that hougyoku : the way he was relating the whole story makes me think Kisuke was the baddy after all
And the whole part with Byakuya and his mea culpa, bleh... I was afraid he would tell he loves her, since she looks like his dead wife, but gladly it was his crappy "should I obey or not" dilemma again...
Now, we can bet everybody is going home ? I'm pretty sure Aizen will lead his plan outside SS. If I were him, I'd prefer face one Ichigo on Earth rather than 10 captains at full power in SS, though he looks unbeatable by now.
lilphatboi88
Mon, 12-26-2005, 04:40 PM
How the hell did Aizen become so strong? I mean, he's stronger than the 13 Court guardians...what's levels are beyond that?
SamuraiX-
Mon, 12-26-2005, 05:51 PM
I actually think that we will be seeing Ichigo fighting and defeating Aizen ( somehow i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif ) in the next arc. Also, I believe that the big fight will be taking place in "Hell", where all the Hollows basically live. Who knows, maybe it'll take two arcs to actually defeat Aizen. O_o
el_boss
Mon, 12-26-2005, 08:00 PM
At least 2 arcs. There will probably be a filler arc after they leave SS.
Assassin
Mon, 12-26-2005, 08:37 PM
aizen's gonna be the next orochimaru. Hes gonna keep escaping no matter how many times they fight, and eventually ichigo is gonna have to rasengan him.
lilphatboi88
Mon, 12-26-2005, 09:57 PM
hahahha, that's funny. But don't EVER bring naruto and his rasengan into bleach. Words can can't describe how disappointing Naruto is.
ChaosK
Mon, 12-26-2005, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by: Assassin
aizen's gonna be the next orochimaru. Hes gonna keep escaping no matter how many times they fight, and eventually ichigo is gonna have to rasengan him.
unfortunatly, its coming kinda close...
hollow ichi=kyubi naruto
ichigo's crimson moon fang attack=rasengan
aizen=orochimaru
and before, rukia did= sasuke
SHIT
The Heretic Azazel
Mon, 12-26-2005, 11:39 PM
Aizen is Orochimaeu? That's unbelievably ignorant.
Oh noz!! Two shows with a main villain in them, where will the similarities end?!
Dezalanel
Mon, 12-26-2005, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by: SamuraiX-
IAlso, I believe that the big fight will be taking place in "Hell", where all the Hollows basically live.
Hollows do not live in "Hell". They live in Hueco Mundo. Hell is a completely different place.
heero
Tue, 12-27-2005, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
hollow ichi=kyubi naruto
ichigo's crimson moon fang attack=rasengan
aizen=orochimaru
and before, rukia did= sasuke
SHIT
you make no sense dude. make sure ur not drunk the next time u post
SamuraiX-
Tue, 12-27-2005, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by: Dezalanel
Originally posted by: SamuraiX-
IAlso, I believe that the big fight will be taking place in "Hell", where all the Hollows basically live.
Hollows do not live in "Hell". They live in Hueco Mundo. Hell is a completely different place.
Yeah that's kinda what I meant, thanks forclearing that up. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
hitokirigirl
Tue, 12-27-2005, 06:12 AM
Somethin else is bothering me : when Aizen and his buddies are surrounded by that yellow gates made by the Menos, Yama-ji said "Menos use it when they are saving one of their own".
Does it mean :
-Aizen used his illusion on them, so he "looked" or "smell" like a hollow or a Menos ?
or
- Aizen has really some part of hollow in his aura/or body ???
Same question applies to Tousen and Gin....
Munsu
Tue, 12-27-2005, 07:44 AM
It just means that they are buddies...
Kensee
Tue, 12-27-2005, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
It just means that they are buddies...
Yeah it would seem as Aizen is pretty much in charge and so him and the hollows are in alliance. Sounds like he might experiment on a few with that lil treasure he dug out of Rukia since his whole explanation about limits of shimagami was leading towards that idea ... a hybrid.
Fudgeman
Tue, 12-27-2005, 08:27 PM
i think we should all just die in our chairs right now and never live again
masamuneehs
Tue, 12-27-2005, 08:50 PM
In regards to an Aizen/Hollow alliance:
Originally posted by: Kensee
Originally posted by: Budweineken
It just means that they are buddies...
Yeah it would seem as Aizen is pretty much in charge and so him and the hollows are in alliance. Sounds like he might experiment on a few with that lil treasure he dug out of Rukia since his whole explanation about limits of shimagami was leading towards that idea ... a hybrid.
I've forgotten the episode, but it was quite early. We got a glimpse of Hueco Mundo and they showed a sort of conference of Hollows. They mentioned that 'the time was close' or something like that.
Since Aizen has already done expirements to give Hollows greater power, it seems he's had some sort of deal worked out with them for awhile (the ones that could hide their prescence were when Renji, Kira and Hinamori had just entered Gotei 13). Naturally they are as intrigued as he is about the Crumbling Treasure's possibilities. They've been getting their asses whooped by the Shinigami for centuries now.
Those Hollows from the episode I mentioned above seem to be the bigshots in Hollow Society. I'm pretty sure that the big purple scar that was visible when the Negative Aster light protected Aizen and his cronies is their leader. Hollows getting organized... scary...
Oolite
Thu, 12-29-2005, 02:40 AM
Seems like Aizen only cares about himself (used people around him) and only seek to gain ultimate power. Once the Hollows served his needs, he'll probably turn on them too.
SamuraiX-
Thu, 12-29-2005, 03:06 AM
Most likely Aizen doesn't give a damn about Ichi or Tousen. So, I'm guessing they have some kind of secret agendas of their own and probably already know that Aizen doesn't care about them. I also assume that there is WAY more to Ichimaru and Tousen than meets the eye, we have absolutely no evidence as to why they would want to betray their comrades.
I just can't wait to see how the rest of this Anime turns out, and I hope they decide to start releasing an episodes a week like they used to. ^_^
aznroyale
Thu, 12-29-2005, 01:06 PM
DB said it was a 15 year old story
and Lunar said it was a 50 year ols story
when Byakuya was talking to Rukia
-_-
Munsu
Thu, 12-29-2005, 06:22 PM
Well obviously DB had it wrong... I had picked up on that when I watched their version back then, forgot to mention it here...
SamuraiX-
Thu, 12-29-2005, 06:52 PM
So wait... does that mean Rukia is nearly 40 to 50 years old? I'm wondering why she looks so young then... I had the empression that "spirits" don't get old, but then how would she have grown up since she was a baby?
The Heretic Azazel
Thu, 12-29-2005, 07:21 PM
She stated in episode 1 she's hundreds of years old, same as the SS alumni.
SamuraiX-
Thu, 12-29-2005, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
She stated in episode 1 she's hundreds of years old, same as the SS alumni.
Yeah, I just checked that out, she said that she has "lived 10 times as long as he has". Meaning that she would be around 150 years old. O_O
Another question, I'm guessing that Hisana and Rukia both died in the human world and ended up in Rukongai? What doesn't make sense is that... if they're already dead, how can they die again (like Hisana-sama did), or grow older (such as what Rukia went through)? It looked as if that Rukia grew from eight or so years old to about fifteen to twenty years old, but after that, she didn't seem to get any older from when we first saw her. Could someone explain? ^_^;;
anphorus
Thu, 12-29-2005, 10:05 PM
The whole dieing in SS thing is something that was explained in the manga back when Ishida first appeared, but was left out in the anime leading to mucho confusion among everyone.
In the manga it was explained that when normal people die they become souls which then pass onto soul society (either by being sent by a Shingami right away, or becoming a hollow and being destroyed by a zanpaktou).
When someone dies in Soul Society they are reincarnated as a newborn child in the normal world in order to repeat the whole process again.
Unless they are killed by a Quincy, in which case they apparently either cease to exist or are reincarnated, it was never said which.
Manga Pages:
Here (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2720/bleach0603038ed.png) and Here (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/465/bleach0603045ta.png)
As for aging, considering that Rukia and Yachiru both semmed to be babies when they entered Soul Society, and that we've definately seen younger versions of Renji, Kira, Hitsugaya, Soi Fong, Shunsui, Ukitake and so on and so on, it looks like people age in soul society, albeit at a slower rate that normal humans.
SamuraiX-
Thu, 12-29-2005, 10:52 PM
That pretty much clears everything up, damn the Anime. XD
Thanks a bunch there, anphorus. Just one more question, what would happen if Rukia was left in that Gigai and actually turned into a human? I know this is probably taking a wild guess at it, since we don't have enough information at this point, but maybe you know something more than me, from reading the Manga. Anyways, do you think she would age normally as Ichigo would, and/or would still have her Death god powers and would have to be turned into "Spirit Form" to become a Death god, like the process that Urahara did with Ichigo by hitting him on the forehead with the end of the cane?
Also, to get more on topic, what do you guys think the deal is with Urahara? According to this episode, it seems as if he betrayed Rukia, not caring if she turned into a human and lost all her powers, but only thinking about fully concealing the Hougyoku within her. What do you think will happen when the crew finally returns to the human world? Will they look at Urahara as an enemy, or will he tell them some kind of story that will allow them to forgive his sort of "betrayal" towards Rukia?
Jadugar
Thu, 12-29-2005, 11:25 PM
Urahara is very calculating man. He must have known that Ichigo will find out the truth so I am sure he has a plan to deal with Ichigo and team when they get back.
SamuraiX-
Thu, 12-29-2005, 11:56 PM
Exactly, but I really enjoy Kisuke Urahara as a character, so do you think his story will be true, or some kind of cover up story, allowing him to manipulate Ichigo and Rukia in the future? =/
Jadugar
Fri, 12-30-2005, 12:01 AM
His story is believeable but the reasons behind his actions are unkown. Maybe we will find out about those in the next 1 hour special or when the team finally returns to earth and face him personally.
DarthEnderX
Fri, 12-30-2005, 12:04 AM
I imagine he'll come clean at this point. Not like he's got anything left to deny at this point.
Besides, he was doing it for the "good of the world". Of course, everything he tried to do has failed now, so...
Oh well.
Vokalyzd Harmony
Fri, 01-06-2006, 02:01 AM
here's a question..why don't people ever die in this anime..so many people have been sliced up and had their vital organs torn to pieces and still live..Renji EXPLODED..and he still lived..damn they're stubborn haha and without having to read the manga..it's simple enough..Aizen will achieve the hollow hybrid and Ichigo will learn to control his hollow hybrid and fight and stuff..what i DON'T get is why ddid the people jsut jump out of the light..why not stay inside the light and still have Aizen at sword point?
Assassin
Fri, 01-06-2006, 03:09 AM
because then the 376 hollows waiting on the other side would kill them
Aramis
Sun, 01-08-2006, 03:48 PM
it's pointless to do anything against aizen. for all you know he might have faked the whole ascension scene and simply be hiding somewhere. his hypnotism is just too overpowered.
if they had stayed in the shafts of light and cut aizen's head off, well...he could actually have been in another one.
Kraco
Sun, 01-08-2006, 05:14 PM
It seems likely to me that Yoruichi even wasn't under hypnosis. She had most likely already left the place, when Aizen gathered the people to ensnare them. Though I could be wrong, but I got the impression Aizen's real shikai does have some sort of visible effect, even if he masked it with something else. Otherwise he would have just walked around the place, his hand on the hilt and people would have never even known he was using his shikai. No need to fabricate any story to display this-or-that type of shikai to everybody. Well, of course it's possible he did it to make everybody think he has some other type of shikai, but in the end it wouldn't have mattered either way, with his fighting style, so why bother...
DB_Hunter
Mon, 01-09-2006, 10:39 AM
Cos he is an arrogant pimp?
ImitationSanen
Mon, 01-09-2006, 04:38 PM
Yeah, I have to say, thats a sweet ability. I think I would use that hypnotism to make some robes fall off if you know what I mean!
heero
Tue, 01-10-2006, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by: SamuraiX-
Exactly, but I really enjoy Kisuke Urahara as a character, so do you think his story will be true, or some kind of cover up story, allowing him to manipulate Ichigo and Rukia in the future? =/
Up to this point, I still think Urahara is the good guy of the story.
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