Book: The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe [Archive]

darkmetal505

Wed, 12-14-2005, 12:47 AM

its not a crappy rip, maven actually makes the best rips out there. Not enough to get the theater experience, but good enough not to spend money to go see it in the theater.

heres some screen shots:

http://www.vcdquality.com/inde...ge=sample&id=57482 (http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?page=sample&id=57482)

Mr Squiggles

Wed, 12-14-2005, 01:32 AM

Well, I saw the movie in theatre with my friend (I know, shame on me for not downloading it), And it was good, but i didnt think it was "awesome" as darkmetal said. I dono, It seemed like they tried to cram in all this info in such a short time, and some of the stuff seemed like it could have been done better, if the movie was maybe 30mins-1hour longer I think it would have been better. Also, some of the acting I found to be kinda bad, like the oldest guy, He just, I dono, had a bit of an empty stare that I guess was supposed to be pride or thoughtfullness but just made him look like a dimwit(the screenshots show this well). Plus, The movie was full of people that looked like child molesters. Finnally that emo kid really bugged me at first =p.

SPOILERS

a few funny inconsistencies I spotted:
- a potion that "can heal all wounds" completely heals a lethal sword wound but leaves the small cuts on his face
- a sword, which is supposed to be very heavy, can be twirled around like it was just a hollow aluminum chopstick.
- when you say "I come to meet Aslan", you also have to lift your sword up in the air for some obscure reason.
- emo kid doesnt get a present, but the other 3 do, sucker!
- if the the winter has lasted 100 years, wouldnt everything be, i dono, DEAD by now.
- Why the fuck doesnt the stupid witch kill the emo kid(I forget his name) when she has the chance, cuz if he was dead, wouldnt that foil the prophecies, since it says all 4 have to rule. God, if your gonna be a villain, DO IT RIGHT!

END OF SPOILERS

Id give the movie maybe, 3.5/5 It was pretty good, but nothing special. But then again, it was meant for kids, so that would explain its simplicity...

FrogKing

Wed, 12-14-2005, 01:42 AM

I personally thought it was terrible. I read the books and thought Disney blew it; too much 'dramatic' music and I felt like I was getting my hand held thoughout the moive. Should have known. Yeah, your first spoiler...thought the exact same thing. 2/5 (for some 'nice' computer effects).

Winged Dancer

Wed, 12-14-2005, 01:15 PM

I liked the movie in a different way than the books. The movies are definitely much more dramatic, epic-like, while the books are written to be a well thought Christian-fairytale.

C'mon, you mean to say you people haven't realized Aslan is Christ???

He died for the child's sins and then came back to life!!

And I'm not making this up, this was something the author himself said. So some of the inconsistences Mr. Squiggles mentioned up there can be atributed to that... like, it wasn't a real winter but a moral one, and the witch can't kill the boy as long as he may be useful to ensare the others into sin, and the potion is supposed to heal mortal wounds but still they must retain a mark of their acts blah blah blah.

I dunno, I'm not into deciphering that kind of thing, heh.

Well, religious alegory aside, I liked the movie. I guess it was simplier than most fantasy movies that've been playing recently but I don't really mind that. It was better than most movies that played this year =P
And Aslan is so cool, in a geeky-goody-two-shoes way, I just love him. And the fox. And the beavers. Fine, so I liked the talking animals.

But why was that boy riding a unicorn?? That's impossible!! Unicorns can't be touched by anyone but pure maidens or they become corrupt. Or something. Mmmh, up 'till now I've never wondered what a corrupt unicorn would be. An evil horse, I guess, which is a pretty funny idea.

XanBcoo

Wed, 12-14-2005, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
I liked the movie in a different way than the books. The movies are definitely much more dramatic, epic-like, while the books are written to be a well thought Christian-fairytale.

C'mon, you mean to say you people haven't realized Aslan is Christ???

He died for the child's sins and then came back to life!!

And I'm not making this up, this was something the author himself said. So some of the inconsistences Mr. Squiggles mentioned up there can be atributed to that... like, it wasn't a real winter but a moral one, and the witch can't kill the boy as long as he may be useful to ensare the others into sin, and the potion is supposed to heal mortal wounds but still they must retain a mark of their acts blah blah blah.

I dunno, I'm not into deciphering that kind of thing, heh.

You're right. C.S. Lewis is primarily a Christian writer, and what I've read of the Chronicles of Narnia are all Christian allegories.

Haven'ts seen the movie yet, though.

darkmetal505

Wed, 12-14-2005, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by: XanBcoo

Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
I liked the movie in a different way than the books. The movies are definitely much more dramatic, epic-like, while the books are written to be a well thought Christian-fairytale.

C'mon, you mean to say you people haven't realized Aslan is Christ???

He died for the child's sins and then came back to life!!

And I'm not making this up, this was something the author himself said. So some of the inconsistences Mr. Squiggles mentioned up there can be atributed to that... like, it wasn't a real winter but a moral one, and the witch can't kill the boy as long as he may be useful to ensare the others into sin, and the potion is supposed to heal mortal wounds but still they must retain a mark of their acts blah blah blah.

I dunno, I'm not into deciphering that kind of thing, heh.

You're right. C.S. Lewis is primarily a Christian writer, and what I've read of the Chronicles of Narnia are all Christian allegories.

Haven'ts seen the movie yet, though.

yea there was a debate on my news about if the movie was Christian related or not. No shit sherlok, C.S. Lewis was a hardcore Christian, so wouldnt he have included some elements? I think they had nothing else to do...

Winged Dancer

Wed, 12-14-2005, 08:17 PM

Heheheheheheh

Well, I used to be a BIG Tolkien fan (as in, cosplaying, reading EVERY SINGLE LotR book even published, discussing it every day) and I remember someone in the "club" once tried to say that LotR, too, was a Christian allegory, like Galadriel was Virgin Mary and Frodo was Jesus, but nobody believed him.

Lewis was Tolkien's best buddy, but when he published Narnia they kind of got into a fight because Tolkien hated allegories. But truth to be told, beyond Aslan being Christ and the Witch being Satan or something like that I can't see much more.

I just read that supposedly they're already starting to plan the sequel, Prince Caspian, which is my favorite book for reasons I don't even remember, so I'm happy they're doing it.

dark maginn

Wed, 12-14-2005, 09:26 PM

this movie might be good from what i heard i reading the series of the book right now lol

aznimperialx

Wed, 12-14-2005, 11:49 PM

the book is really good, and i bet the movie would be good too. I guess It was the most popular out of all the other 7 books by C.S Lewis

Honoko

Wed, 12-14-2005, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Lewis was Tolkien's best buddy, but when he published Narnia they kind of got into a fight because Tolkien hated allegories. But truth to be told, beyond Aslan being Christ and the Witch being Satan or something like that I can't see much more.
Hmm.. i thougth tolkein disliked the narnia stuff b/c the metaphors were "too obvious."

in any case, i love picturing these two literary giants in room just talking about their writing processes. "that last paragraph you read there sucked like crazy, tolkein, old buddy." etc... hehe i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

and i will go see this movie after i hand in my thesis paper tomororw. woo!

Winged Dancer

Thu, 12-15-2005, 10:03 AM

LOL, it'd be as watching two highschool rival teens trying to sound friendly to each other. "Lewis, like, talking animals? He--llooo, that's like SO ten centuries ago! I mean, as a friend, I'm just tellin' you it's like so DUH!"

Anyway, the movie is perfect if you want to have a nice time and it's a good adaptation... well, they've fleshes out the Pensieves (or however that's spelt) which is something I don't mind... in the books the characters all seem to talk with the same accent and style and truth to be told of all the four brothers only Edward (emo without present) and Peter show some degree of personality while the two sisters are either "cute little girl" and "older sister who does nothing".

That's fine for a fairy tale/allegoric book because it fits but it would suck in a movie.

So I liked how they modified the brothers personality and made them more... brother-like, always arguing and worrying about the others and not being able to reach an agreement. For me, in the book Edward sometimes came off as a moron who wanted to sell his family for OOOH magic chocolates/drugs, with the new backstory his situation seems much more plausible.

masamuneehs

Thu, 12-15-2005, 02:02 PM

i must have read these books almost a dozen times when i was a kid. I remember not even seeing the religious parallels to my mom pointed them out to me.

I liked the way they portrayed Edward. In the book he was so stupidly selfish that you sometimes wanted to smack yourself.
The movie was pretty darn good, figured they'd dull it down for younger audiences. Very little blood, way too many stupid lines, the music...

I hated the way they did the Wolves. In the books I remember being scared by the Captain, but (maybe its just that Im older now) onthe screen they seemed a little retarded and way too overdramatized with the voices...

XanBcoo

Thu, 12-15-2005, 02:36 PM

Well, I'm just hoping it's better than the movie adaptations that have already been made. The ones where the animals are just people dressed up.

How many of the books are being planned to be made into movies?

darkmetal505

Fri, 12-16-2005, 04:45 PM

so I watched it again and skimed through a couple of parts. It wasnt as good as the initial time I saw it, I think I was too excited. Some parts were cheesy, and they needed better characters.

Honoko

Sun, 12-18-2005, 05:37 AM

i finally saw it and loved it. the unicorn was defintely a bit too distracting tho. and some of the added scenes were good and others not so good =P

for some odd reason, there was this one scene i was looking forward to that i read in the book AND saw in the other Lion,Witch,Wardrobe movie that didn't show up in this one! the part where the white witch comes across a bunch of animals having a party and all-around good time and when she asks why, one of them was like, "santa was here!" and in a fit of rage she turned them all into stone. i always liked that scene, if only for showcasing the pure evilness of the character. sigh... too bad it didn't show in this one. but i still loved the film. it was a lot of fun.

darkmetal505

Sun, 12-18-2005, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by: Honoko
i finally saw it and loved it. the unicorn was defintely a bit too distracting tho. and some of the added scenes were good and others not so good =P

for some odd reason, there was this one scene i was looking forward to that i read in the book AND saw in the other Lion,Witch,Wardrobe movie that didn't show up in this one! the part where the white witch comes across a bunch of animals having a party and all-around good time and when she asks why, one of them was like, "santa was here!" and in a fit of rage she turned them all into stone. i always liked that scene, if only for showcasing the pure evilness of the character. sigh... too bad it didn't show in this one. but i still loved the film. it was a lot of fun.

yea, they took out the scene, but it showed the stoned animals. It was right after they escape from the beaver's house and they come too the clearing and Mr. Beaver sees them and gets sad.

Honoko

Sun, 12-18-2005, 03:59 PM

^ yeah, i figured that... but it's just not the same! hehe

darkmetal505

Sun, 12-18-2005, 04:25 PM

the battle scene was amazing though. Par with lord of the rings

el_boss

Sun, 12-18-2005, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by: darkmetal505
the battle scene was amazing though. Par with lord of the rings
You're kidding right? That was just about one of the lamest battles ever depicted in a movie.It was like 1 minute and nothing happened during that short time.

The whole battle was like: Attack!... Retreat!... Yay we won! <-(The battle actually went on about as long as it takes to read this sentence.)

The entire movie was way too short and everything went by too fast. It felt more like a summary than an actual full movie. I felt like they didn't take the time to let me get to know the characters so I just didn't give a shit what they did or what happened to them.

The music was just horrible. It sounded like they took the soundtrack of some generic Jerry Bruckheimer action movie and just copy/pasted it.

I would say that this movie is up against Harry Potter 4 for the title of worst adaption of the year.

darkmetal505

Sun, 12-18-2005, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by: el_boss

Originally posted by: darkmetal505
the battle scene was amazing though. Par with lord of the rings
You're kidding right? That was just about one of the lamest battles ever depicted in a movie.It was like 1 minute and nothing happened during that short time.

The whole battle was like: Attack!... Retreat!... Yay we won! <-(The battle actually went on about as long as it takes to read this sentence.)

The entire movie was way too short and everything went by too fast. It felt more like a summary than an actual full movie. I felt like they didn't take the time to let me get to know the characters so I just didn't give a shit what they did or what happened to them.

The music was just horrible. It sounded like they took the soundtrack of some generic Jerry Bruckheimer action movie and just copy/pasted it.

I would say that this movie is up against Harry Potter 4 for the title of worst adaption of the year.

I dunno, I liked it. I will watch it again. The effects were good.

el_boss

Sun, 12-18-2005, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by: darkmetal505
I dunno, I liked it. I will watch it again. The effects were good.
Yeah they overall design was quite good and creative (altough almost everything was inspired/stolen from greek mythology). Though there was something that bothered me. In almost all parts where there was a real person, you could clearly see that the background was fake i.e. computer generated. This really ruined the experience for me.

Honoko

Sun, 12-18-2005, 10:08 PM

well, i dun think it was on par w/ LotR but considering that the battle written in the book was like, ONE paragraph, i thought they did a good job extending that scene in the movie.

i loved lucy. such a cute girl! ("we have to help them!" *whips out dagger*) hahahahaaa... so cute!!!

Xollence

Fri, 12-23-2005, 07:54 AM

The movie was good, I liked it. It would've been a lot better if the battle lasted longer at the end.

Raven

Wed, 12-28-2005, 08:02 AM

Generally I thought it was good. I'm a huge fan of the books and such, so I was looking forward to it no matter what. I thought it was cast fairly well, especially Lucy who had bucketloads of personality for someone so young.

Mae

Wed, 12-28-2005, 10:16 PM

Yeah, I think that the kid who played Lucy did pretty well with her acting considering her age. I thought the movie was ok. The story sometimes felt a bit rushed, but the scenes were really nicely shot, very pretty, especially when they first entered Narnia, and the CG wasn't bad. I remember that their was some controversy about the "Christian content" when it first came out, but that kinda died down. Yes, there are Christian elements, but that's only part of the story. Decent movie, worth watching, especially if you read the books as a kid (like me), but as usual the book was better.