Fate/stay night

[Munsu]

This is one of the series I've been waiting for a while, it's licensed already... I'm not sure when it comes out, but Eclipse released a subbed prologue:

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...4172313%5D.mkv.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%20Curtain%20Raiser%20(h264)%20%5BD4172313%5D.mkv. torrent) = h264 mkv version

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...1262E72%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%20Curtain%20Raiser%20(XviD)%20%5BA1262E72%5D.avi. torrent) = avi version


Point of interest is that this is based on a game by Type-Moon, from the same people that did Shingetsutan Tsukihime... And I think this series takes place in the same world, not sure though...


"The Holly Grail; It is a holly cup to grand ones desire. Grail War is a battle of seven wizards in order to get the grail. Each wizard summons one of seven servants, Saber, Archer, Assassin, Berserker, Caster, Lancer, and Rider. The wizard contracts with a servant, and they fight against other pairs until the last pair survives.

The main character, Emiya Shiro, is an apprentice wizard, but he happens to contract a girl who introduced herself as Saber, and he is involved in the battle."



http://www.staynight.com/
http://www.typemoon.com/fate/
http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/fate/
http://www.animenewsnetwork.co...edia/anime.php?id=5394 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5394)
http://www.animenfo.com/animet...v,fate_stay_night.html (http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1811,jcnygv,fate_stay_night.html)

[kenren]

"The Holly Grail; It is a holly cup to grand ones desire. Grail War is a battle of seven wizards in order to get the grail. Each wizard summons one of seven servants, Saber, Archer, Assassin, Berserker, Caster, Lancer, and Rider. The wizard contracts with a servant, and they fight against other pairs until the last pair survives.

woo...sounds awesome...reminds me of basilisk... cant wait for this to be released.

[Munsu]

Finally found a site I've been looking for all morning...

This is a spoiler heavy site, but it'll help understand the Type-Moon universe, especially helpful in understanding what's going on in Tsukihime...

http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm

This page specifically gives what it seems like a good intro into Fata/stay night

http://www.geocities.com/max3075/fate/index.htm

[aznroyale]

looks nice, i'll watch it
EDIT: its on my list after i seen the preview

[Aeon]

That's the first preview that made me wanna watch a show since Shana so this show must be good.

[dark maginn]

i watched the preview looks awsome

[Darknodin]

Yea! if its the same world as Tsukihime i'm really interested (even it is isn't i am... storyline looks intriguing)

[Hakeem_21]

Wow the story sounds good and i really liked Shingetsutan Tsukihime.

[masamuneehs]

Intriguing.... add another show for me to watch...

[Munsu]

It seems that the first episode will air on January 7... Hopefully it'll turn out to be a good series...

[aznroyale]

2 weekssss

[nests]

Looks like I going to have to add this one to my list as well

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Ep 1 by Eclipse (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/[Eclipse]%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2001%20(XviD)%20[CE062934].avi.torrent)

I have been looking foreward to this.

Eclipse seems to be having tracker problem at the moment. Don't expect Shana to work either right now.

[Aeon]

The first episode wasn't nothing to rave about but it was enough to keep me interested in it. Dunno why but the comedy seems to forced considering it wasn't funny to me .Last night the torrent wouldn't work for me but the one from miinova connected fine maybe it's still that way.

[Munsu]

Yeah, first episode wasn't any great... But I think it is setting up the series nicely... I'm sure we'll see some kickass action in the coming episodes...

Comedy blows indeed, but I've always thought that the comedy shown in anime sucekd anyways so I don't mind it...

[Kraco]

Hmm... I watched Shingetsutan Tsukihime just a couple of days ago, and that series went instantly onto my top anime list. But based on your posts, I think I will rather wait for a few episodes to be released before I download and watch this new series.



Originally posted by: Budweineken
Comedy blows indeed, but I've always thought that the comedy shown in anime sucekd anyways so I don't mind it...
Heh. Isn't that a bit hard criticism?

[aznroyale]

was not intrested for the first eps -_-, might get better on

[Darknodin]

personally... the comedy thing didn't bother me too much as this isn't a funny anime... and yea, it sets up the series quite nicely.. i'll keep watching

[SamuraiX-]

Well, I just watched the trailer, and it looks as if it's going to be REALLY good. I'm downloading the first episode now, hope it's not as bad as you guys have already stated it is. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[Munsu]

No one has said it was bad...

[SamuraiX-]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
No one has said it was bad...

Well, not in general, but it seems that the majority of the posters consider to comical scenes in the Anime to really blow. XD

[Munsu]

This isn't a comedy series so it shouldn't matter anyways...

[Darknodin]

yea... the show isn't bad at all...

[Coriandria]

ok let's see if I can post this correctly

Episode 1 by Mahou H264 (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_01_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5B9FE29F82%5D.mkv.torrent)

Episode 1 by Mahou Xvid (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_01_%5B46064960%5D.avi.torrent)

[nests]

Yeah comedy in it is not that good but I did not watch this expecting a comedy
the action looks like is goin to be cool though hopefully the next episode has more of it.

by the way wich sub gruop did you guys like the best?

[aznimperialx]

there was comdey in the 1st esp? Anyways the 1st esp bored me

[Ryllharu]

It was an intro eps. They needed to lead us into the situation before introducing Saber and the main plot. Most of the humor surrounded his surrogate older sister "Tiger"-sensei.

This really should've premiered with a double eps, but most of the target audience is well aware of the plot in FSN.

Be patient, it gets better.

[Munsu]

Episode 2

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...F455508%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2002%20(XviD)%20%5BFF455508%5D.avi.torrent)

[nests]

Thanks for the link.
Now will see if it lives up to expectations

[Ryllharu]

If anyone doesn't like this series after eps 2, they clearly don't have good taste in anime.

Rin was a lot nicer than I thought she was. Other than that, there wasn't too much to talk about, lots of little things hinted at, but nothing really said.

And we get to see Saber for the first time.

[aznroyale]

Saber's hot i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gifi/expressions/heart.gif

[Darknodin]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu
If anyone doesn't like this series after eps 2, they clearly don't have good taste in anime.


No joke!!! first was interesting! but this was just great! damn... I'll be following this one for sure!

[Coriandria]

Here's Mahou

Episode 2 Xvid (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_02_%5B636AB292%5D.avi.torrent)

[aznroyale]

Originally posted by: Darknodin


Originally posted by: Ryllharu
If anyone doesn't like this series after eps 2, they clearly don't have good taste in anime.


No joke!!! first was interesting! but this was just great! damn... I'll be following this one for sure!

nah i still found the first eps boring even tho i watched it like 4 times, but 2nd was goodi/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Lucifus]

I think I might like this series, both episodes seemed decent, and bleach has gone to fillers, naruto now has a negative IQ, and Suzuka series just ended. I'm gonna stick with this series for now, it seems promising.

[Aeon]

Ep 2 was a good ep, ep 3 look's to be even better. I can't wait to see the look on Rin face when she see's she saved the life of the person that summoned the card she wanted. Also is it just me or does Rin look like the girl on the Wild Arms 4 cover (http://www.rpgamer.com/games/wa/wa4/packaging/wa4004.jpg)

P.S. Lucifus pick up Shakugan No Shana.

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Aeon
P.S. Lucifus pick up Shakugan No Shana.
Shana pales in comparison to F/SN. Watch Eureka 7 and pick up Magikano instead.

I'm sure some people know, if they've played the game (I can't read Japanese, so I haven't), but who do you think Lancer's master is?

I can't help but think its Sakura's brother, the jackass from the archery club. He's the kind of person I could see being the master of a warrior that bloodthirsty.

Rin's probably going to be more shocked by finding out he's one of the magicians. She obviously saved him for some personal reason, so I imagine that would overshadow the 'he drew Saber' issue.

[Darknodin]

Yea... Shana was getting weird... but last ep was good...
hell watch em all!
Eureka 7 is very good and Magikano is funny..
somehow, Sakura's brother doesn't look like he's a magician... but we'll see

[Munsu]

I wonder how Saber got summoned, cause Emiya certainly didn't do shit...

[Nachtvogel]

Hmm, which is better, Eclipse or Mahou? I know that both are good groups, so can anyone give comments on that?

[Aeon]

Argh I just noticed I messed up on the pic link here is a picture of the girl on the wild arms 4 cover.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/...918840_70384_front.jpg (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/918840_70384_front.jpg)
its the hair.

And I think must of the people here are following eclipse version if that matters any.

[masamuneehs]

Just watched episode 1 because people said this was a pretty good show. Seems to be right in the middle of OK, typical anime plot, typical protagonist. I've never seen the other show that's based in the same 'world', but grasping the idea of Masters and Servants isn't too complicated...

the humorous scenes in the first episode were just downright awful.

Shirou Emiya is the same guy as Sasuke (Naruto) and Ishida (Bleach), right? Damn that guy is friggin busy.
Archer looks like Deakka and Yzak had a love child and dressed him up like Knives from Trigun. The voice is very familair too. Isn't he Friagne from Shana? I feel like I've heard his voice alot in recent animes...

edit: just checked ANN, Archer is also Sting Oakley (GSD) and Vino (Blood+) He was also Fuuma in X.

[Darknodin]

most people didn't like the show after episode 1...

watch ep 2 and you'll see

[Lucifus]

Fack Episode one dude, go to ep two.

[AnimePunk]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
I wonder how Saber got summoned, cause Emiya certainly didn't do shit...

I agree with you Bud; Emiya couldn't have done it b/c he is too weak. As explain by the girl in ep 2 who summon saber must be a high level wizard (masters). All i am saying that he had help with his summoning of saber.(couldn't be his father b/c his dead)

[masamuneehs]

Watched episode 2.

Yeah, that seal on the floor of the storage room basement seemed to appear by itself. I feel we're going to get a cheesy explanation for how Emiya summoned Saber. Something along the lines of his great warrior spirit calling out for justice awoke her, blah blah blah. Or maybe something like his father sealed her there for him to use crap crap crap.

This show seems ok, but I had thought the Servants were supposed to HIDE their identities, to gain a tactical advantage over others. But Lancer comes rushing in with just a lance (not employing any High Jump moves btw) and Archer's Master frigging calls him 'Archer' still, even though she was the one who brought up the point of keeping his identity a secret. Stupid girl.

Seems like an okay show. i'll stick with it for a couple episodes more. The animation is good, premise is acceptably cliche. This show has upper-mediocrity tier written all over it... I also can't stand that teacher bitch. She is just not funny, not funny at all. Oh, and I find it hilarious that Sasuke's VA has a girl named Sakura who is totally hot for his character in two shows now

[Darknodin]

uhm... I think the identity thing was about its real identity (his name), not his class...
so Lancer coming with a lance is not saying anything about his identity, even though archer seems to know him.

[Ryllharu]

The reason Rin was irritated about not being able to know his real identity is why she said it will ultimately keep him self until they do.

When she knows who he was, she will know his specific strengths. On the same token, when the enemies don't know who he is, they don't know his specific weaknesses, namely what got him killed in the first place. The Achilles heel, basically.

[Munsu]

AonE version

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...30C0048%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_01_%5B230C0048%5D.avi.t orrent)

[nests]

Wow AonE is subbing this finally a decent group

[Knives122]

I thought AonE died, hmmmm. I guess I'll check them out b/c right now I'm using the Eclipse version.

anywho, ep. 1 was alright, it wasn't great and it wasn't bad so I guess it leaves me obligated to continue watching it.

[nests]

Fate-stay night - 03.avi (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2003%20(XviD)%20%5B11DF8C37%5D.avi.torrent) by Eclipse

[Lucifus]

Yes!, Thanks Nests =)

[Coriandria]

If no one wants the Mahou releases I'll stop posting after this. But just incase

Episode 3 Xvid (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_03_%5B683ADCB6%5D.avi.torrent)

Episode 3 H264 (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_03_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5BAF4F69E7%5D.mkv.torrent)

and

Episode 2 H264 (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_02_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5B49F4F142%5D.mkv.torrent)

[Yukimura]

Is there something wrong with the Mahou subs? I haven't compared them with Eclipse yet but they didn't seem bad to me, is Eclipse doing something better than the other group?

[Ryllharu]

I downloaded the Mahou version because it seemed to come out first this time.

I know a lot of people have a lot of complaints about Mahou being so slow, but they do high quality work. They do amazing karaoke (like they do on SnA), and their translations are good. They put a lot of effort into their subs. I was watching Eclipse until now, and they seem to be equal quality to me, excepting Mahou's vastly superior karaoke effects.

[aznroyale]

im gonna stay with Eclipse i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

[Aeon]

Reason I go with Eclipse is for the simple reason that they do Shakugan No Shana :/. Anyways time to download ep3.

[Munsu]

Episode 4 by mahou

xvid

http://tracker.mahou.org/torre...C6C162A%5D.avi.torrent (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_04_%5BAC6C162A%5D.avi.torrent)

h264

http://tracker.mahou.org/torre...5214595%5D.mkv.torrent (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_04_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5B35214595%5D.mkv.torrent)

[Darknodin]

what is H264?

[Munsu]

Just another codec, supposedly better quality but more cpu itensive...

[nests]

Fate-stay night - 04 by Eclipse
Link to H.264 version (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2004%20(h264)%20%5B4963E7A6%5D.mkv.torrent)
Link to Xvid version (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2004%20(XviD)%20%5BD0A7FC40%5D.avi.torrent)

[Darknodin]

ok... I'll try it later... about the episode... its was nice. and for some reason, Saber is starting reminds me of Sagara Sousuke. oh and she smiled once in this episode.

[Coriandria]

ok one person said they used Mahou that's good enough for me ;-)

Episode 4 by Mahou Xvid (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_04_%5BAC6C162A%5D.avi.torrent)

Episode 4 by MahouH264 (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_04_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5B35214595%5D.mkv.torrent)

[lukeloh]

Hmmm, in this entire thread I'm surprised no one has come out to bat for AoNE.

I've actually downloaded and watched all three - Eclipse (both H.264 and XviD), Mahou (both H.264 and XviD) and AoNE for both Episodes 1 and 2.

This is how I would rate them:

The H.264 versions are superior in picture quality to the XvIDs for both Eclipse and Mahou. However, subbing wise Mahou seems to better than Eclipse. So for instant gratification I am downloading Mahou's H.264 as they come out.

AonE however has excellent picture quality (as good as the H.264 for either of the alternate groups) but superior translation, which I feel gives more nuance and depth and is actually closer to the actual FSN game.

So as AonE releases (slower, admittedly), I delete the Mahou version and watch it again to get a better understanding of the story.

AonE, keep it up - your work on FSN is excellent and I wouldn't want you to drop it simply because no one appreciates your work. I joined the forums specifically just to thank you for your good work.

Note - I haven't watched KuroNeko so I can't comment.

Links:

Fate Stay Night - Ep 01 - AonE (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_01_%5B230C0048%5D.avi.t orrent)

Fate Stay Night - Ep 02 - AonE (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_02_%5BE0D980F6%5D.avi.t orrent)

[t1no]

What do i need to watch the h.264 version? And what do i need for the audio?

[lukeloh]

I use the Matroska Pack Full (Matroska is the name of the mkv format). It has worked on every single release by every single group out there. The audio is included.

Just a note - what you probably want to do prior to installing this pack is delete / uninstall every codec that you already have in your system. Occasional conflicts with older versions, particular Direct VobSub can arise. The Matroska pack has all you need.

Matroska Pack Full v1.1.2 (http://packs.matroska.org/index.php.en)

[Kyuuzou]

Originally posted by: lukeloh
I use the Matroska Pack Full (Matroska is the name of the mkv format). It has worked on every single release by every single group out there. The audio is included.

Just a note - what you probably want to do prior to installing this pack is delete / uninstall every codec that you already have in your system. Occasional conflicts with older versions, particular Direct VobSub can arise. The Matroska pack has all you need.

Matroska Pack Full v1.1.2 (http://packs.matroska.org/index.php.en)

Matroska works fine for me as well.....But still some people can't play all the files... Try VLC 2 just in case...

Blah.....it won't dl direct so.. Just use their site...>.>http://www.videolan.org/

[masamuneehs]

AONE 's version of Episode 3 is out
Fate/Stay Night Episode 3 - AONE (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_03_%5B1D22E26A%5D.avi.t orrent)

i am going to switch over to this group, since its been so highly talked about by some people.

[kooshi]

I've been sticking with AonE this entire time, mainly since I've been watching other anime to keep me occupied. However, I can't really judge them since I don't know Japanese and haven't seen the other fansubs. Still, they're always trustworthy, based on what I've seen with their past projects.

As for up to episode 3, this series has become really interesting. I was really surprised to "see" that Saber's sword was invisible.... if it is a sword. Can't wait to see more battles i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

[Darknodin]

Originally posted by: kooshi
I've been sticking with AonE this entire time, mainly since I've been watching other anime to keep me occupied. However, I can't really judge them since I don't know Japanese and haven't seen the other fansubs. Still, they're always trustworthy, based on what I've seen with their past projects.

As for up to episode 3, this series has become really interesting. I was really surprised to "see" that Saber's sword was invisible.... if it is a sword. Can't wait to see more battles


she's called saber... but then again, archer is using two short swords... anyways, you find out what the weapon is next episode

[Munsu]

Episode 5 Eclipse

h264

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...BB9ADD4%5D.mkv.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2005%20(h264)%20%5B6BB9ADD4%5D.mkv.torrent)

xvid

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...E91741B%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2005%20(XviD)%20%5B6E91741B%5D.avi.torrent)

[Lucifus]

This episode kinda sucks, the anime has potential, I hope the speed picks up soon, or I might just drop it.

[Aeon]

Ep 5 was nice I guess,seeing her own the teacher lady was pretty funny. Anyways when it showed a closeup of Rin's hand did she only have 1 summoning mark left? And I'm guessing the cool summon thats in the trees belongs to the teacher?

[Ryllharu]

You mean Rider, the top subject of hentai/ecchi for F/SN? I think the running theory by most viewers is she's the Servant of that a-hole archery team member, Sakura's brother.

[Aeon]

Yup Riders her name, I'm a little upset that I was looking at wallpapers for this show and one of the walls had Rider and her master i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif.

[masamuneehs]

AONE has released Episode 4.

Fate/Stay Night Episode 4 - AONE (https://http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_04_%5B825C4AA2%5D.avi.t orrent)

[Prof. Chaos]

Always updated with all fansubs (http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=fate+stay+night)

[Kraco]

I suppose I belong the minority by watching subs from Mahou. I have liked that group a lot ever since I watched their Moon Phase. Even though AONE is considered some sort of an elite group, I'm not going to switch over to them.

Episode 5 - Mahou (xvid) (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_05_%5B6F43EA82%5D.avi.torrent)

Episode 5 - Mahou (h264) (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_05_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5B8512E4F2%5D.mkv.torrent)

This is a nice enough series. Not nearly in the same league as the previous Type-Moon series Shingetsutan Tsukihime, but good enough. And what's this... Ishida/Shiro has given up the bow in two series already... It's a good thing Sasuke never practiced with a bow, or this would have become a joke.

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Kraco
This is a nice enough series. Not nearly in the same league as the previous Type-Moon series Shingetsutan Tsukihime, but good enough.
The funny thing about that, is that most fans of the Type-Moon games would say the exact opposite about the games.

I'd still say give F/SN time. Tsukihime was rushed terribly. They are taking the time the series is owed this time around. Admittedly, there are parts where the fans complain about some of the adaptations of the game (Rin's pop gun magic spells, the comedic take on the 'death chase' in eps 5), but there were a lot more complaints about Tsukihime.

I like them both, but so far people have been giving F/SN a hard time because it's starting a little slow.

[Kraco]

Well, I haven't seen the games (I don't know if I gave the false impression I have. Sorry if I did). It's possible what you said about Tsukihime and feedback, but I liked that series a lot because of the peculiar mood and feeling it had. It reminded me a little of Elfen Lied and Berserk, which both had a very strong, single-minded atmosphere and gave the main characters a very plausible and interesting history that defined their current identity. There are a lot of good things about F/SN, and overall it could indeed gain higher quality, but I'm pretty sure already it won't achieve such a unique feeling. It looks like just another series with a tournament idea (like Rozen Maidens, and such) with a main character fighting against it.

Well, I have basically no troubles with how this started. The main character himself might be the little slow part of this show, but that's something to be expected in anime...

[masamuneehs]

Bump for Eclipse releasing Episode 6

Eclipse - Fate/Stay Night - Episode 6 (h264 format) (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2006%20(h264)%20%5B2BD9F924%5D.mkv.torrent)

Eclipse - Fate/Stay Night - Episode 6 (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2006%20(XviD)%20%5B11B718BA%5D.avi.torrent)

Get it while it's hot!

[Lucifus]

Sure took Eclipse took awhile with Fate/Stay night and Shakugan no Shana this week, same with Naruto too, downloading em.

[Aeon]

If Rin and Rider weren't so cool I really think I would drop this show. It really hasn't cought my attention the way I thought it would.

[auron]

i support aone sub, now i watch elipcse first. When aone 1 out then download again =)

[Munsu]

I'm liking the series...

These episodes still feel like they are introductory to what is going on... I suspect the action to pick up a lot after 3 more episodes...

[TheNineTails]

i agree with budweineken. I also think the episodes will get batter after couple of episodes

[Lucifus]

The vibe I'm getting from this show is that its starting off really slow like bleach, But the animation is awesome and the storyline has quite some potential, I was contemplating giving it up, but I wanna keep with it for a few more episodes and see if teh speed picks up.

[Board of Command]

This series is pretty interesting. One thing didn't make sense though. The day after Saber gets summoned, Emiya said he couldn't take off her armor. But every scene after that Saber has her armor off. What gives?

[Munsu]

Humm, I think you misunderstood...

It was more like she didn't want to take it off, so Emiya might have said something along the lines of "I couldn't make her take it off"

Unless you are talking about something different...

I watched AonE's ep. 3 at 10:30

[Darknodin]

yea... I have eclipse and it says the same thing (as Bud said)

[kooshi]

Episode 5 by AnimeOne (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_05_%5B7DEB9714%5D.avi.t orrent)

[Munsu]

7 by Eclipse

http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...9D3656E%5D.mkv.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2007%20(h264)%20%5B39D3656E%5D.mkv.torrent)


http://www.point-blank.cc:1638...C79EEF1%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2007%20(XviD)%20%5B8C79EEF1%5D.avi.torrent)

[Darknodin]

so... it seems that Shinji will propose a sort of alliance with Emiya...
and it seems Emiya is stronger than we think (...that's kinda cliche though)

[Aeon]

Emiya is really starting to annoy me, and I still wanna know why Rin only has one summon mark left.

[Yukimura]

Where did you see Rin with only one mark. She only used the one to make Archer disappear, though I don't get why that required a mark. As to Shinji, why was it so obvious...he's shifty, the nhe up and vanashes and weird shit starts happening. Maybe it's to make the suprise or Issei or Sakura or Fujimura/Tiger being a Master more explosive. Speculation only of course, but Fujimura knew Shinji's dad and could concievably be a magician, magic seems to run in familes so Sakura's got potentia, and then Issei being a Master would just be funny. As to the series as a whole...Let Saber Fight, I want to see her kicking ass with the invisible sword.

On that note, anyone know why Saber and Rider's weapons are invis but not Lancer or Archer or Berserker. So many questions, so slow a pace.

[Darknodin]

I think it was the episode where Emiya learns about the marks, you see Rin with only one mark and Emiya comments about it. so yea, i also wanna know why!

about the weapons, I don't think Saber's is meant to be invisible. I think its a fluke cuz Emiya is not a good magician. and Rider, I think its part of its abilities. (or maybe all of them can make their weapons invisible, which is not THAT useful in their fights as Lancer was keeping up with Saber)

[Aeon]

I think they also showed her summon marks this ep also, not sure though. Anyways what's everyone guesses on the secret identities for the characters so far.

Berserker=Hercules(that was a given)
Saber=Joan of Arc(She just reminds me of her)
Archer=Musashi(Only reason is that he used two swords)
Lancer=(dunno)
Rider=(dunno)

[Ryllharu]

I've heard that Saber is definitely NOT Joan of Arc, but after she does something, it will be very obvious who she is.

Lancer they said in the eps when his attack and the name of his weapon gave it away, he's the Irish folk hero Cúuchulainn. (Wiki page) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuchulainn)

Berserker we obviously know.

Rider, I got spoiled by fanart, but if you look at her carefully and the way she attacks it's actually pretty obvious and would have been my guess. Interesting take on the identity too.

Archer, I have no clue on in the slightest. Lately I've been thinking Odysseus.

As for the one we only caught a glimpse of, the hooded Caster, I was thinking Morgan Le Fay.

[masamuneehs]

Aone has released apisode 6

Fate/Stay Night Episode 6 - AonE (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_06_%5B62AE7383%5D.avi.t orrent)

[Lucifus]

[Eclipse] Ep 8 Fate/Stay Night (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2008%20(XviD)%20%5BD157A5C6%5D.avi.torrent)

[masamuneehs]

Fate/Stay Night 6
What the hell is Emiyas problem? Toshaka almost got killed by a throwing dagger, so instead of just shutting the door and banding together with her he runs out into the open courtyard? The idiot should have been dead right then...

And could someone explain to me what exactly happens if a Master is defeated/killed? Does that mean the Servant is done for that particular Grail War also? Emiya trying to fight the Assassin all alone in the forest was so asinine. If he really cared about Saber hed summon her (or better yet, just keep her around him regularly) so theyd have a shot at getting the Grail, which shes probably after anyway.

Finally Toshaka decides to put away her indignation towards Emiya and call a truce. The girl is pretty smart. Its obvious Emiya is a natural and has great power. His Servant is also very tough. Pairing up with the naive Emiya to defeat other Masters one at a time is a great move. In the end it will leave her and Emiya, who is so easy to betray that its laughable.

This show is pretty good, but Emiya is really one annoying character. I wonder if/when anime will get tired of the selfless, upright hero protagonist... Theyre so one-dimensional, and unless the story is a tragedy their ideals will always prove to be the right course of action.

[Ryllharu]

When the Master dies, the Servant no longer fights in the Grail War. Tohsaka said that they could kill the Servant, but it is a lot easier to kill the squishier Master.

Emiya is...chivalrous. He doesn't want to put Saber in danger if he doesn't have to. Saber is still hurt from the Berserker incident, even if it doesn't look like that. He still has illusions of hero-dom.

There's a lot more to him than they've shown so far.

[masamuneehs]

Aone has released apisode 7
AonE - Fate/Stay Night - Episode 7 (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BAonE%5D_Fate_stay_night_07_%5BDE08521E%5D.avi.t orrent)

Come and get it!

[Aeon]

Finally Saber has had enought of Emiya's bs, now maybe this show can live up to the hype I gave it after watching the trailer. Also it seem's like Saber fell for Shinji's plan, while she is fighting the witch's servent it looks like Rider is gonna fight the master.

[Yukimura]

@ masamuneehs: I think I read on that page Bud posted near the beginning that a Masterless Servant can hire out to a new master for a period of time before going back to where servants come from. So if you manage to kill a Master, but he or she's Servant kills yours, then you might make a contract with their servant. Though if what Tohsaka said about personalities is true then there might be tension in such pairings requiring wasted command spells.

[Kraco]

What Tohsaka said about the personalities must be true: Emiya never listens to Saber, and heedlessly loiters around alone, just begging to be attacked or be tricked by other masters, and Saber shows the same headstrong disrespect by undertaking the battle Emiya didn't yet want to initiate. They are a perfect match, even though in this case it looks like they are a perfect match for a disaster, not for a success...

[Yukimura]

It'll be fine, Emiya probobly has secret hidden away powers, maybe something that could be evil and thus his dad didn't want him to develop it. And Saber is awesome...because she's Saber. I wonder if she has an awesome finishing move like Lancers...since this came from a game it's very likely that she does... I hope it's good.

[NeoBear]

this came from a game? anybody have a link to info on that handy?

on the side not i hope the next eps is good cause i have been getting pretty angry with saber just sitting in the house shes pretty much why i watch the show all the other people other then the teacher are boring to me

[Ryllharu]

The link to Typemoon's F/SN site is here (http://www.typemoon.com/fate/)

However, unless you can read/speak Japanese and buy the game, there is no way you'll be able to play it. As a TypeMoon game, just like Tsukihime there is over 60+ hours of text to read. People have tried to make translational patches, but its just so much that they've been working for years on the two games with no real progress. (I believe the Tsukihime work began first, and almost a year later they are 6% done.) If someone professionally was translating it, it might not take as long, but...the market for these games isn't THAT viable, so they don't really put too much effort into licensing and translating these games. Pity.

[NeoBear]

thanks for the feed back i think yur right about the market but i wish i knew more about the workings of game translations as i have seen this done for quite a few games buy fans of course most of them wear console games and a game with 60+ hours of text is well alot of damned text

[aznroyale]

eps 9 (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2009%20(XviD)%20%5BD04133AE%5D.avi.torrent)
Eclipse

[masamuneehs]

was wondering, if i wanted to post something about the games, would it go here?
or in the Video Games section?...

[Darknodin]

Originally posted by: masamuneehs
was wondering, if i wanted to post something about the games, would it go here?
or in the Video Games section?...

I guess it depends on if the content applies to the show as well...

anyone about the ep. well its confirmed (whether it was hidden at all) that saber is much stronger than showed. and I HATE the assassin for interrupting saber when she was saying her name!

[t1no]

is Eclipse a good sub? Anoe 1-4 are down i think.

[Board of Command]

I don't recall AonE ever subbing this series. And to answer your question, yes Eclipse is very good.

[masamuneehs]

Well, this time you're absolutely wrong Board. AonE does sub Fate/stay, as I should know since I've been watching their releases i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif
sorry t1no, no clue what's going on with the tracker, Eclipse is pretty good and thats the version i started out with at first.

[Board of Command]

Oh darn, because I thought mahou and Eclipse were the only two big names that subbed this series. I guess AonE is just pretty slow then.

[NeoBear]

Man when she fell asleep she was so cute. I want my own saber i would hug her and brush her hair and buy her candy =)

I like to watch rider move around, and with the exception of lancers master who hasnt been shown has anybody else noticed that all the servants are the opisite sex of there masters?

[Munsu]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Oh darn, because I thought mahou and Eclipse were the only two big names that subbed this series. I guess AonE is just pretty slow then.

They haven't been slow at all... they are on episode 7


Anyways, episode 9 was pretty good...

Sasaki Kojiro, known as one of Musashi's greatest rivals... I read about him in the manga Vagabond, though I don't know how much of it has historical facts.... In the manga he was born deaf, doesn't seem like he is in this anime.

For more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasaki_Kojiro

[NeoBear]

wtf so this anime is based of a game but is it based of an H-game? cause i am finding all kinds of H crap out there its blows my mind how often some one will go "this is a great H-game lets take out all the H and turn it into a good anime, I rember when my friend told me that KGNE was based of a H game i almost beat his ass on the spot.

[Kraco]

A composite/manipulation/edit from a past episode, just for the love of Saber:

http://www.gotwoot.net/d/1725-1/Wounded_Saber.jpg

[Aeon]

Always wondered while Saber sword was cloaked, guess it's only that way till she draws it. If I was assassin I would've killed her for taking me lightly. Archer doesn't seem that strong anymore, he's been on the sidelines for like 5eps now.

[Kraco]

Mahou caught up also:

Episode 9 AVI - Mahou (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_09_%5B2D92CBF8%5D.avi.torrent)

Episode 9 MKV - Mahou (http://tracker.mahou.org/torrents/%5Bmahou%5D_Fate_stay_night_-_09_%5Bh264+AAC%5D_%5B4B1C4F91%5D.mkv.torrent)

Edit: A fine episode. Not a bad fight, even if it contained a bit much talking and less swordplay. But assassin's master seems to be quite badass. The next episode might be strange based on the preview.

[Aeon]

Eclipse Ep 10 AVI (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2010%20(h264)%20%5BA62CB1D3%5D.mkv.torrent)

Eclipse Ep 10 MKV (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2010%20(h264)%20%5BA62CB1D3%5D.mkv.torrent)

Fate Stay Night 10 avi and mkv files, we need an auto link button again or am I missing it?

Edit I figured it out.

[Board of Command]

I'd have to say that Fate/stay Night has the second favorite OP, next only to Elfen Lied.

[masamuneehs]

I totally disagree with you BoC. I hate the OP in this show. The music just doesn't do it for me, not at all...

And then the ending theme is also really light, alittle more fitting (as an ending), but there's almost no animation to speak of. Like they got lazy or something...

Actually, I'm sorta glad they focused more on animating the show (which is done beautifully) and not on extra stuff like the ending...

[Board of Command]

I think the opening song blends in nicely with the animation.

[Munsu]

No good action in episode 10, but I really liked the episode.

Saber was funny in this episode.


Next episode looks like we'll have an awesome fight though.

[Viperdragon]

Eclipse Ep 10 AVI (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2010%20(h264)%20%5BA62CB1D3%5D.mkv.torrent)

Eclipse Ep 10 MKV (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2010%20(h264)%20%5BA62CB1D3%5D.mkv.torrent)

Fate Stay Night 10 avi and mkv files, we need an auto link button again or am I missing it?

Edit I figured it out.

hello, both the links are the MKV version, can you correct this cos i only want the avi version, also does Eclipse have a site?

[Munsu]

http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2010%20(XviD)%20%5B7A3A8694%5D.avi.torrent

Avi version...

They have no site, they post their torrents in point-blank

[kooshi]

I find it kinda hard to believe that someone with Ilya's personality is controlling Berserker. I thought it was implied that a Servant's personality would be similar to the Master's. But then again, Ilya could've just simply been giving a fake face.

[masamuneehs]

for above
Fate/Stay Night Episode 10 avi format (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2010%20(XviD)%20%5B7A3A8694%5D.avi.torrent)

I don't think Eclipse has a website. But they're on irc , Rizon.net server #eclipse

edit: goddamn Bud beats me all the fucking time...

[Munsu]

I find it kinda hard to believe that someone with Ilya's personality is controlling Berserker. I thought it was implied that a Servant's personality would be similar to the Master's. But then again, Ilya could've just simply been giving a fake face.
I don't see what's hard to believe...

Berserker is Hercules you know... He's not some evil guy like you seen to think he might be.

[Lucifus]

Llya and Saber rulzors........

Anyway, Saber was pretty funny this ep and I kinda liked it. Never thought Llya would have that kind of personality at all. Weird... But pretty kool ep.

[Aeon]

Rin, Rider and now IIya are my favorite characters. For Shiro to be such a nice guy he was being rather mean to her at first. Also what happened with the link was ummm and then yea.

[Munsu]

I hate characters like IIya... I hope she dies a painful death.

[Board of Command]

I think Rin is a traitor and will turn out to be the mastermind behind everything.

[Munsu]

I don't think she's a traitor, she has been pretty straighward about all her intentions up until now. But there's no doubt that she'll become Emiya's enemy soon. Flashback scenes don't lie, so everything she has told Emiya has been truthful.

[Lucifus]

I hate characters like IIya... I hope she dies a painful death.
=S harsh.......I couldn't make up my mind whether she was a traitor or not, I kind of think she is, but have no proof, guess i'll have t owatch and see....

[Aeon]

How can you not like IIya she's so sweet and innocent. I imagine the only time she'll ever get angry is when she's facing Rin since she seems to hate her.

[Jadugar]

IIya is pure evil. Just look at her eyes. Anybody would freak looking at those.

[Lucifus]

o.0, Llya is too kool to be evil.......

[aznroyale]

scary eyes -___-

[complich8]

I dunno, I like the fact that they gave Ilya a bit of complexity. She could have just been an obsessive psycho bitch, but ... she's like 8.

I think she's probably like they say -- a gifted wizard, but I'd also say she's not really the bloodthirsty monster that she came off as being when we first met her. Character depth is a good thing. I think she's probably just a sheltered kid who doesn't really understand the depth of her behavior...

I think Tohsaka's really starting to crush on Emiya a bit. But more than anything else, I think the whole "Emiya doesn't make any real progress anywhere" motif is getting a little tired. Hopefully this situation corrects itself in the next couple episodes --

[masamuneehs]

Eclipse - Fate/Stay Night Episode 11 - xvid (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2011%20(XviD)%20%5BB210B8CB%5D.avi.torrent)
Eclipse - Fate/Stay Night Episode 11 - mkv (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2011%20(h264)%20%5B80850D5F%5D.mkv.torrent)

come and get it!

damn AonE is taking forever with this show (and i don't even care for it that much at the point I'm at , episode 7...) Should I just go back to Eclipse's versions?

[Aeon]

I've been sticking with the Eclipse versions all the way through, haven't noticed anything wrong with them. Plus they sub Shana which earns them a gold star.

Shirou's ability seems cool now that he can strengthen two lines but did I miss something? I had no idea what Rin and Saber were talking about. Rider proved her awesomeness this ep, next ep looks like she will prove it even further.

[complich8]

masa: eclipse's subs aren't particularly spectacular, but they're certainly on par with everyone elses. Based on the last 4 eps they released, I'd call them a better-than-average group. I've noticed a few nitpicky editing points, but nothing I'd dismiss their work over.

Rider's awesomeness, though? I wouldn't really call it that, so much as ... well ... lack thereof. Her ultimate attack seems to be pretty crap (sure, it tore up the building, but it didn't really seem to do anything to Shiro or Saber), and maybe it's just the result of Shiro kicking ass without even knowing it, but she couldn't even really hurt him very much!

As far as what Saber and Rin were talking about ... I think that was something to do with Shiro fundamentally changing things. Sort of like how he turned the broken broomhandle in ep 11 from a piece of splintered wood to something rather ... metallic. The point, whatever it means, is that Shiro's raw natural talent is pretty incredible -- something supported by him just waving off Shinji's attacks (and his ease finding the spell marks back in episode 7).

[kooshi]

Episode 11 was definitely one of the better episodes. Pretty interesting to see that Shiro is not as useless as he has been in the previous episodes. Not being affected by Shinji's magic and able to "block" Rider's blades. Still, that Shinji guy is so damn annoying, Shiro should've just killed him right there.

[Jadugar]

@ Masamuneehs :

Eclipse is not that bad. Not bad at all. AonE will take their time subbing. In the mean time Eclipse is the best choice.

@ Aeon :

Shiro has the ability to change/transform things completely. The normal magic only replaces things from some where else. It works on equivalent trade. Whereas Shiro is radically changing one element into another. He is more of an alchemist than a magician. I think Rin senses that in Shiro.

@ Complich :

I agree. The Rider has top notch agility but her ultimate attack wasn’t that impressive. It broke some windows and burned some of the floor. Lets hope she has some other little tricks up her sleeve. Maybe Shinji needs to grow up as magician, maybe then he can command her better.

At this point I am thinking there must be a servant swap later on in the series. That would make things interesting.

[NeoBear]

that was a good eps im glad shiro had some growth this episode he was starting to get on my nerves .... i want my own saber =(

[Board of Command]

Shinji is the biggest dick in the history of anime, to the point of beyond hating. Don't you just want to rip that guy's nuts off? (provided he has any)

[Jadugar]

@ NeoBear : I want Rider so I can ride her, not Saber.

@ BOC :

Let me find out if Shiro has any balls. Trace on!
No, no sign of any reproductive system there. Four girls in his house and he doesnt even have a hard on.

He was annoying with his talk of not killing any one but in the current episode he has shown some initiative. He was about to stop Shinji’s breathing. Give him some time.

[Board of Command]

@ BOC :

Let me find out if Shiro has any balls. Trace on!
No, no sign of any reproductive system there. Four girls in his house and he doesnt even have a hard on.

If I were him those command spells would be gone in no time :cool:

[Aeon]

Rider wasn't using her move in an offensive way, even Saber said that she only used it to escape like she stated. Rider might not be as strong as the other servents but she more then makes up for it in agility and speed reason I'm guessing she fights at a distance. She ran past Rider without even trying. I can see Rider owning Hercules if they fight.

[complich8]

I'll agree, but only because unlike Shiro's wiry frame, berserker's got a lot of meat for rider to sink her hooks into ...

(is it just me, or does the wording of that conjure up images of bad servant-doujin?)

[Yukimura]

Nice ep, Rider's Ulti seems pretty lack luster, what capable Servant would let something so big and obvious hit them? Maybe Berserker could just take it, but all the others we've seen would probobly just move. Rider was probobly at a disadvantage fighting in that close quaters environment anyway, she seems to wide places with lots of cover, like what the preview showed. From the preview she should be at her top form whem Saber grinds her into the pavement, maybe she'll whip out the lightning blade again.

Shiro does have talent, we've known that for a while, he just lacks skill. He seems to be tapping deeper into his resevior of power, hopefully by the end he'll have learned something about control and finesse and will be able to tap his potential better.

Something else I noticed, from the way Shiro talked about that fire that happened ten years ago, it sounded like he was more than just a victim. Perhaps he had something to do with what happened, and felt bad about it untl Kiritsugu found him. THis might also explain why Kiritsugu never taught him anything, either fearing what Shiro could do with control over his power, or not knowing anything about the kind of power Shiro actually had.

[Aeon]

Nice ep, Rider's Ulti seems pretty lack luster, what capable Servant would let something so big and obvious hit them?

The move Saber was doing against Assassin took forever, any smart servent would've just rushed her.

How long is Fate Stay Night gonna be? Isn't there 13 magicians? If so that means we still need 6 servents and 7 masters revealed.

[Ryllharu]

There are only 7 masters and 7 servants.

Taken from the Lunar boards. As of the eps that have aired:

<master>/<servant>/<servant's identity>
Shirou / Saber / ???
Rin / Archer / ???
??? / Lancer / Cuchulainn
Shinji / Rider / ???
Ilya / Berserker / Heracles
??? / Caster / ???
??? / Assassin / Sasaki Kojirou

I believe the series will be 26 eps long.

Saber's Noble Phantasm is supposedly incredibly powerful. I'm not sure she was actually charging it, it looked to me like she just took the sword out of the sheath and was preparing an attack, just as Assassin asked. He was also waiting for her to attack. His identity gives away some characteristics. Sasaki Kojirou would feel slighted if she didn't give it her all (he said as much). His pride would make him want to see if he could take the force of her attack. Just like Kojirou's famous fight with Musashi.

[darkshadow]

well "famous" its said that he probably didnt exist, a similar person probably did, but not a sasaki kojirou, he is not even mentioned in musashi's book, and i think there MIGHT be more masters, as they already mixed the different story's together, and btw, when was it revealed that berserker is hercules? wouldnt that be spoiling?
oh and according to ep14's title, we will finally see archer's Noble Phantasm :D ( find out the title at your own risk of being spoiled )

[Munsu]

Sorry, but you have to get your facts straight... Sasaki Kojiro was a real person, I posted some info about him a couple of pages back when he appeared.

Also, Hercules/Heracles was revealed when he first appeared.

[Aeon]

The episode Berserker was revealed IIya said that he was the strongest warrior Hercules. And I dunno why I thought there was 13masters:confused:. But who is Caster? I don't remember seeing a servent by that name.

Argh Bud beat it for me.

[Ryllharu]

Caster was the mage type Servant that Rider fought in the same eps that Assassin and Saber were fighting. Caster summoned up a few skeletons that Rider dispatched quite easily before having to retreat after not being able to hit Caster herself.

I don't remember whether or not she's been explictly mentioned as Caster though.

[Aeon]

I thought she was the master for Assassin. I thought the attacks she was using were just basic magic attacks like Rin used in the school. So I guess this means that Shirou and Rin aren't the only masters working togather. Now I wonder who the person in the trees was that was spying on Saber.

[Munsu]

Yep, that was why I thought also... I remember the chick saying, "Isn't your master clever, making you attack me while my servant is busy" or something along those lines.

So I think that person you called Caster is a master, not a servant.

[Ryllharu]

I'm completely confident that Caster is who I said she is. However, my response to your comments is founded on the things that Shirou's friend said about the temple where he lives. That there was a new visitor, and she was being treated with an incredible amount of hospitality. It seemed that he disapproved of the extravagant way she was being treated, as if she was a temptress. This is the key to my theory.

I believe that Caster has beguiled whoever is Assassin's master on the orders or her own master, and thus, Caster is now controlling Assassin through his own master, who is probably as ignorant as Shirou in the ways of being a magician. In effect, whoever Caster's master is now has control of two servants.

[darkshadow]

Sorry, but you have to get your facts straight... Sasaki Kojiro was a real person, I posted some info about him a couple of pages back when he appeared.

Also, Hercules/Heracles was revealed when he first appeared.

i did get my facts straight, i know he was real, but it is "his" fight with musashi, might not have been his, heck some sceptics even think musashi murdered kojirou, AND that fight isnt mentioned in musashi's book, when i said "didnt exist" i was actually only talking about that "famous" fight
and about berserker, ok must have not heard that or something

[Knives122]

In the ep. Berserker appeared, [edit]little evil eyed happy girl [edit]said that he was the greatest hero in greek mythology.

and the only person I know of like that is Hercales, Hercules in roman mythology.

Edit: my mistake

[Munsu]

well "famous" its said that he probably didnt exist, a similar person probably did, but not a sasaki kojirou, he is not even mentioned in musashi's book

That seemed to me like you were talking about the person not the fight like you now are claiming...

But whatever, there's a lot of speculation to what really happened in the supposed fight with Musashi, no one can really know what really went on, the link I had provided for the wikipedea explains some of the possible scenarios to what really happened... There are all sorts of different accounts.


In the ep. Berserker appeared, Rin said that he was the greatest hero in greek mythology.

and the only person I know of like that is Hercales, Hercules in roman mythology.


No, the master of Berserker herself said who he was, with name and all.

[Lucifus]

I liked this episode, and I'm pretty sure Assasin was that witchs servant. Llya rulez. Sabers kool.........If I had her, I'd only have one command mark left.......B)

[Jadugar]

Yep, that was why I thought also... I remember the chick saying, "Isn't your master clever, making you attack me while my servant is busy" or something along those lines.

So I think that person you called Caster is a master, not a servant.


I was thinking along the same lines. I thought that character was saying that your master is very clever. He is playing dirty tricks. There was a barrier around the temple and only there was one way in, which was guarded by the Assassin. Rider’s master Shinji told Shiro about the witch and he knew that Shiro being kind hearted would go to stop that witch. This would provide him with the opportunity to kill the master. Killing master would be easier than killing his servant (Assassin). So Rider was waiting for that opening. Although Assassin’s master shown sitting on the seat in the temple and the character fighting outside with Rider looked different.

[Ryllharu]

She is not a master, she is Caster.

-Caster says "Your master is very impressive. Using Saber as a decoy to sneak into my area of control." [Eclipse] 9:33. That means that Saber was the one distracting both of the servants while Rider snuck in to attack the area inside the barrier Caster created/controls. Also, the language used, "Your Master" seems to imply that they are on the same level, both serving a master. Caster comparing her master to Riders.

-Caster's class is radically different from the servants we've seen so far. Berserker, Lancer, Archer, Saber, and Assassin all use physical means to destroy their enemies. Rider is fairly different in that she uses sneak attacks and the normally invisible spikes and chains. Caster's title implies that she would be using magic or some other spells, which is exactly what she used to repel Rider. Summons and spells.

-Finally, I'll be really cheap if those do not convince you. Check the credits. 22:39 on Eclipse's version. 田中敦子 as キャスター "Atsuko Tanaka as Caster." She also voices Motoko Kusanagi from GitS:SAC. You can tell from her voice they are the same person.

[Jadugar]

You may be right. I just thought of it now. Why would a master be fighting a servant on his own? Only Shiro is stupid enough to do that.

[Knives122]

but isn't that the special quality we love about Shirou?

The only master to go up against Heracles b/c he doesn't want his girl servant to get hurt....

[chobits1217]

ya i am pretty sure that woman is caster@



-.-hmm.....am i spoiling? ........press control + a if u wanna c wut i typed@

i love this anime....it getting better and better..........
there r 3 storylines in the game......i wonder which one they r using for the anime@@, heard one of them is pretty sad:( .....

Thanks for at least hiding the spoiler, but in this forum there is no spoiling allowed. Spoiler comments were removed.

GotWoot Moderator


ops sori about the spoiler...lucky i thought about it before i click submit:D

[Board of Command]

but isn't that the special quality we love about Shirou?

The only master to go up against Heracles b/c he doesn't want his girl servant to get hurt....
Especially right after watching Saber getting the shit beat out of her.

[Aeon]

For those waiting for or archaiving Aone their ep8 is out.

http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents/[AonE]_Fate_stay_night_08_[77E0F626].avi.torrent

[kooshi]

I got a question: where does the class of Rider come from? The others are pretty much seen in a lot of games, but I don't recall the Rider class. Is there some historic significance with it or something?

[darkshadow]

caster = magic
berserker = mindless pummeling
saber = close combat expert
archer = ranger type class ( sword/bow )
lancer = long range close combateer, ( really hard to fight in real life )
rider = you'll see soon enough, but i think its quite obvious
assassin = swift killer

[Jadugar]

I got a question: where does the class of Rider come from?

Saber, Lancer and Archer are known as the three Knight Classes.
They are officially known as Saber knight, Lancer Knight and Archer Knight.

[Aeon]

I just noticed something interesting while rewatching the Lancer/Archer/Saber fight. When Saber went to attack Archer Rin forced him to vanish which took away one of her command spells. I'm guessing he wanted to fight Saber and took a command speel as payment. Guess I didn't notice it since command spells weren't talked about back then.

[darkshadow]

now i bet you're wondering why she only had 2 command spells...

[Board of Command]

I got a question: where does the class of Rider come from? The others are pretty much seen in a lot of games, but I don't recall the Rider class. Is there some historic significance with it or something?
I think Rider is some kind of scout class. Her combat abilities are definitely below average but she makes up for that in speed and stealth.

[Yukimura]

Rider's skill set seems to be much more in tune with an assassin than a 'rider' I assume There's backstory but she's quick, covert, athletic, and seems to prefer to fight at mid range. Like an assassin would. I don't get why they made her Rider because the guy who is the Assasin is a samurai. The term samurai originally refered to mounted warriors, who used bows and arrows as primary wepons. (read your history). Obviously the samurai of most anime are Kenshin style swordsman though, and Kenshin was an assasin, so he does fit that role well enough. But she's so much more assasin like that it just seems wrong. And I think she might be blind. Come on, the blind Assassin is a huge cliché in anime...why not have one here?

[NeoBear]

Saber, Lancer and Archer are known as the three Knight Classes.
They are officially known as Saber knight, Lancer Knight and Archer Knight.

see ya is there somewear to get this info in detail i understand that this show is based of a game but id like some background on the classes and wutnot i tried there web site but it had all these funnie slashes with squigglie lines and it was all writen top to bottom wuts up with that:rolleyes:

also its kind of odd to me that its like a given that certian classes beat other classes for instance its been said rider is no match for saber and the same was said of archer vs saber ..even though archer is a knight class himself...do we have like some funky rock paper scisors thing going on here?

[Ryllharu]

No, it's really a matter of what Rin said in the first eps to Archer. That because she was his master he will be inherently the best, but she really wanted to have Saber. Saber is, assuming Berserker is not put into the mix, the strongest Servant. Hands down. If she uses her Noble Phantasm, then she may be even stronger than Berserker. I don't know for sure, I never played the game. During the fight with Assassin, we learned that Saber has never fully taken her sword out of its sheath during a fight. She's been holding back all this time. It seemed to me to be more of a direct heiarchy. Saber is the strongest, and the rest trickle down.

[darkshadow]

once again, you'll SEE why she is called rider, why would they call her RIDER, if her name didnt have any meaning, you'll see soon enough

[Aeon]

The reason I think Saber is called the strongest class is because the Saber class won the last Holy Grail War. The two shadows in the first ep fighting looked like Saber and maybe Archer. But yea if I had to classify Rider in rpg terms I'd say she reminded me of the theif class. She's very quick, she doesn't like to attack direct and she fights with a small weapon.

[Munsu]

Episode 12 by Eclipse:

H264
http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2012%20(h264)%20%5B9D54C59B%5D.mkv.torrent

Xvid
http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2012%20(XviD)%20%5B382433A6%5D.avi.torrent


Just as an aside, I'm noticing that many of you are very acquainted with the Fate/stay night storyline, evident that many of you have played the game or just read the story in various sites. So I'm warning you, be very careful on the info you provide to this forum, and be very careful on how you word your responses... Some are very close to spoiling.

This message is for no one in particular, just an overall observation.

[Aeon]

OMG, That episode was awesome, I never would've thought that Rider was a pegasus knight. Rider was freaking awesome this ep, and now that she has lost her mask I can finally use my sig. And Saber's true idenity came out of left field.

[Knives122]

You spoiled me Aeon, I haven't watched the episode yet :(

:p (I don't really care)

[Aeon]

Sorry:( , I just wanted to use a new sig since Shana ended.

[Kraco]

Indeed. It was an awesome episode. Started quite slow, and if I hadn't watched the last preview I might have thought it's just some intermediate episode, but the latter half was fine indeed. And like Aeon said, Rider shone in this episode.

But Shinji is cracking pretty badly. It's never a good sign if you kick a trash can over in the middle of a street, stop and scream like an animal up to the night sky.

@Knives122: It's never a good idea to read these threads further than the download link, if you haven't yet watched the episode behind that link.

[Knives122]

I said I didn't care(aka I was joking about being sad about being spoiled).

you think I'd come in here if I didn't want to find out what happened in the ep?

[Kraco]

Uh... Sorry. I meant no offense.

[Lucifus]

This episode was pretty awesome. Rider was kool, but Saber was kooler. Excalibur huh? Tight.

[Ryllharu]

No one wants to explicitly guess Rider's identity? This eps gives you all the information you needed. I knew from fanart spoilers months ago, but its really easy to figure out at this point (not that it wasn't too hard before).

[Board of Command]

I still have no idea as to who Rider is.

[Aeon]

No one wants to explicitly guess Rider's identity? This eps gives you all the information you needed. I knew from fanart spoilers months ago, but its really easy to figure out at this point (not that it wasn't too hard before).

I was also spoiled by a couple of the wallpapers I have of her. I still seem to be missing something, I typed the name Bellerphron that she shouted out and got the story of Bellerphron the pegasus knight that killed a chimera. That doesn't match the identity ofthe fanarts I have.

[Ryllharu]

Her identity is about as obvious as the Cae Bolg reference giving away Lancer's identity. If you're familiar with a lot of mythology, and the specific legend, one clue gives it away, usually the Noble Phantasms so far.

Evidence behind Rider's Identity:

I feel that the Bellerophon reference is more of a completion of the whole Pegasus myth rather than taking only that portion. The golden bridle and 'Bellerophon' cry is straight from that portion of the myth, Bellerophon forcibly tamed Pegasus to slay the Chimera.

However Pegasus existed before that. Pegasus' origins stem from the Perseus myth. You should also pay key attention to Saber and Rider's dialogue.

Saber: "To have brought out a mythological creature, your sins are extensive..."
Rider: "I was nothing more than your human's enemy."
...
Saber: "I did know you were the unvirtuous sort, yet, you were not a heroic soul but rather of the evil creature type."

It should be fairly obvious from these complied clues. The destroying eye that appeared when she stabbed her own neck, separating her head from her body. Also note that she has been blinded all this time.

Since the answer should be clear given all that, the answer is obvious, especially her connection to the pegasus.

Rider is Medusa. Snakelike hair, snakelike weapons, blinded eyes, and when Perseus cut off her head, Pegasus sprung forth from her neck. It's an interesting connection of all the myths that combine Pegasus and her.

[Kraco]

Man, it has been way too long since I read anything about those stories. Very clever writing, Ryllharu. Well, at least I'm happy I guessed it, when I read your paragraphs with the bolded words, and I didn't actually need read the identity out aloud. A tiny victory for me, at least... Heh heh. Aye, you certainly seem to know your stuff.

Hmm... Maybe the fact that she liked to try to immobilize her enemies (with the chains) also refers nicely to Medusa.

[Knives122]

it was too bad though to see Riders ultimate move get shafted by Sabers Excalibur.

Guess that meant that Rider wasn't really shit...

[darkshadow]

No it meant that excalibur was just better, pegasus would own the other servants

[Kraco]

Well, to be fair, Saber's ultimate attack seems to be very risky, considering her condition after using Excalibur. If she had missed or otherwise wasted that single attack, a child could have defeated her after that. There didn't seem to be such a weakness in Rider's power.

[Munsu]

Saber said something very curious... She said that if she used her skill at this height she wouldn't have to worry about scorching the Earth. It's evident that Saber might have been the person responsible for that incident that almost killed Shirou.

[Yukimura]

I think it was either the preview or the beginning of the first ep, but we see some of what happened to the city when Shirou was a kid, Saber was definatly fighting someone in some flaming rubble their swords clashed and there was a big explosion, then we see a pan of flaming rubble that loks just like what Shirou recently walked out of in a flashback to his child hood...hmmmmm very interesting

[Munsu]

Yeah I remember that scene, but I thought at the time that the scene is something that would happen in the future, but it may very well be a scene from the past War, like I've seen some of you think.

[Knives122]

well yeah the first is obviously Saber:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4482/snapshot200603261819095qi.jpg

And I thought the second guy was Archer until I decided to look at the first ep again. and he looks nothing like any of the servants(although I have my suspicions):
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6190/snapshot200603261819502mf.jpg

It does look like this happened in the previous war, seeing how Shirou talks about the event.

I personally think the fire was caused by both of them, not just by Sabers wind tornader fire cyclone of doom.

[Aeon]

I mentioned this a couple pages ago, I think that's archer since the classes never change just the spirit within them. Going by that it's safe to say that that's not Berserker or Assassin. That leaves Archer and Lancer and well Lancer fights with a lance while Archer is able to use both a sword and Bow. The move he uses in the very beginning is prob his phantasm using the bow. I expect a repeat performence with Rin and Shirou being the final two.

[Board of Command]

And I have a hunch that Shirou's dad was Saber's previous master and Archer's (?) master was a relative of Rin's.

[Knives122]

Oh yeah almost forgot about this, Saber holds excaliber right?

Now if I recall there was only one person who weilded that sword. ;)

[darkshadow]

the rider saber battle , actually went precisly like the bellerophon chimera fight

Bellerophon mounted his steed and flew off to where the Chimera was said to dwell. When he arrived, the Chimera was truly ferocious, and he could not harm the monster even while riding on Pegasus. He felt the heat of the breath(excalibur) the Chimera(saber) expelled, and was struck with an idea. He got a large block of lead and mounted it on his spear. He then flew head-on towards the Chimera, holding out the spear as far as he could. Before he broke off his attack, he managed to lodge the block of lead inside the Chimera's throat. The beast's fire-breath melted the lead, and blocked its air passage

except saber(chimera) won this fight ( no dont worry this isnt who saber really is )
also:
Pegasus was eventually turned into a constellation, but a single feather fell to the earth near the city of Tarsus

i think thats nice use of the myth, the "feather" being the shooting star like comet it turned into

edit: pegasus rules dammit!!, i wouldnt mind having that horse

[Aeon]

Ep 13 is out by Eclipse.

Today isnt the same without a Shana ep coming out also, these two shows were perfect to watch togather.

http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2013%20(XviD)%20%5BC4290631%5D.avi.torrent

http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2013%20(h264)%20%5BAC25D764%5D.mkv.torrent

[Kraco]

Well, can't say any huge things happened action wise in this ep, but otherwise it revealed interesting things. And the title of the next episode looks promising as well, in that respect. Although despite the title, I hardly think it means Shirou would actually command Saber to go and suck some souls.

But now Shirou is once again getting one more reality check. But so hard is his head that I wonder if this is still enough. Maybe it will take something more, before we get to the real end of ideals, if ever.

But other than that, unless Ilya expects Shirou to escape, she certainly doesn't know about his (only) skill. After all, being such a material manipulator, nothing should be easier for him than getting rid of some pesky ropes...

[Ryllharu]

It seemed that rather than have Saber suck some souls, that he was going to find the real Excaliber (I didn't notice any appreciable difference though, I probably wasn't paying enough attention).

If he materializes the sword, perhaps that will solve Saber's Mana problems. Maybe it's even an issue of his improper summoning.

Also, Ilya is rather...forward with Shirou. Despite her young appearance, she's really after Shirou, isn't she?

[chobits1217]

i don't get it...since it based on the h-game, y don't they just recharge the mana in the h-way? do like a kiss, fades out, and the next morning 2 lies on the same bed?

ok yes that wut i would love and have been expecting to c hahahahhaha:D
SABER!!!!!!!!

wonder how r they gonna recharge mana without the h:confused:

[Board of Command]

Now if I recall there was only one person who weilded that sword. ;)
Are you saying Arthur is actually a woman?

[Munsu]

Aparently in this series Arthur is indeed female, I liked how Merlin called her Arturia.

@Kraco, it's not a matter of knowing Shirou's skills, Ilya simply thinks that he can't do anything because of the spell (or whatever) she did on him. It seems that it should've rendered him useless, incapable of doing anything.

And I agree with Ryllharu, I think all problems will be solved with Shirou materializing the real Excaliber, or whatever that other sword was.

[Board of Command]

wonder how r they gonna recharge mana without the h:confused:
It's called magic.

Man, no wonder I didn't recognize who Saber was. I always knew she had something to do with Arthur and the Knights, but didn't expect them to twist that legend and make Arthur a female...

[Kraco]

@Kraco, it's not a matter of knowing Shirou's skills, Ilya simply thinks that he can't do anything because of the spell (or whatever) she did on him. It seems that it should've rendered him useless, incapable of doing anything.

Well, that's just a theory, unless I'm forgotting some line. After all Ilya said the effects of the spell were already lessening, first allowing Shirou to wake up, then talk. I don't remember her ever seeing Shirou do anything, so she might very well think he's good for nothing, as far as magic goes.

What you are saying about the materializing the real sword sounds indeed like something that could happen. Even if it didn't make much sense, unless it somehow connected Shirou and Saber. Otherwise it would be like creating a device that independently generates more energy than creating and supporting it takes... But of course something is going to happen with the sword, or it wouldn't have gotten such a big role.

[Munsu]

My point is that it doesn't matter what Shirou skill is, any magician should be capable of getting out of any shitty rope... Using fire, or any other skill, it shouldn't be too hard.

My point is that the miscalculation of Ilya has more to do with her expectations of how her spell should work, not that she didn't know what Shirou is capable of.

[Ryllharu]

The reason Shirou will probably be able to materialize the sword hit me just now as I was reading through the posts after my own. We all know Shirou summoned her improperly, that is, she just appeared rather than him drawing out the circle and doing all sorts of things Rin did (which still wasn't enough apparently, but actually think Archer was lying to her).

For whatever reason, Shirou can regenerate at rediculous levels, which is supposed to be Saber's ability (also one King Arthur had, the Excaliber's sheath granted regenerative powers). That leads me to believe that the true Excaliber (or whatever it is) was brought into Shirou's body by accident. It also drags in some symbolism that he's the sheath to Saber's abilities. Then all he needs to do is materialize it into the real world.

[Kraco]

Hmm... That's an interesting theory, to say the least. However, one thing bother me with all the talk about the sword: The servants are spiritual beings, and the physical body they have in order to fight and pose nude to their masters is a temporal convenience. Well, you could say our bodies are such as well, if you believe in a soul that is kind of separate from the body. However, Excalibur is a piece of metal with some magical abilities. It existed before Arthur and perhaps in some form remained after him.

Dunno. What I'm trying to say is that the sword shouldn't be in such a way linked to Saber, or it shouldn't be conveniently materialized as if it was something that happened to be misplaced during the initial spawning of Saber. And furthermore Saber hasn't indicated once that she's missing something, like the original Excalibur, and is instead using some makedo.

So, if the missing Excalibur if not just a symbol for the missing link between Shirou and Saber, it shouldn't exist as available to those two. It's not part of the story. Unless all the other Master/Servant pairs also can have external mystic weapons or gear.

[Munsu]

Well a general theme in this series is that the less people know about you the better off you are. So, if Saber is indeed missing her real sword, it is of no surprise that she hasn't mentioned it before.

[darkshadow]

wiki:
The visual novel Fate/stay night features a young female knight called Saber. It is later revealed that her true name is Arturia Celas, and she was the basis for the legends of both Arthur and Guinevere.

[kooshi]

http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents/[AonE]_Fate_stay_night_09-11.torrent

For those who are keeping the AonE versions.

[aznroyale]

Eclipse (http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allowed/torrent.php/%5BEclipse%5D%20Fate-stay%20night%20-%2014%20(XviD)%20%5BE84AF365%5D.avi.torrent)
eps 14

[Lucifus]

Archer is the Shyt!!!!!:D

[Death13a]

Best episode so far. LOTS OF fighting and not with usual head-on.

[Kraco]

It was indeed an excellent episode. The action was good, sensible, and plentiful. But damn Berserk is badass. The pointblank shot by Archer's bow didn't even scratch him. And his healing abilities seem to be quite perfect. Shirou and Saber will have their hands full.

But I certainly didn't expect Archer's fate to be what it turned out to be. Of course it was as glorious a defeat as one could hope to get, and perhaps his speech to Shirou indicated something like this was forthcoming, but still I didn't see it coming.

The only bad thing about this episode was the fact Archer's voice actor's English wasn't quite up to the task...

[Board of Command]

Awesome episode. Rather disappointing performance from Berserker because he was still just a big brute swinging a sword. Anyone have an idea about Archer's identity? I think he's supposed to be some legendary blacksmith, and the only name that comes to mind is Melchior.

[Knives122]

Hands down the best episode of this show to date.

I didn't really mind the english, it actually was cool b/c I thought he would end up saying all that stuff in japanese.

And what was up with that pendant that was left behind? I don't remember ever seeing him with that.

[Ryllharu]

1. Melchior is a blacksmith only from Chrono Trigger (seriously). It's a fairly widespread misinterpretation. Just goes to show how popular Chrono Trigger is. The name actually refers to one of the wise men from the Bible. All other references to that name are typically a play on the mythos of that.

2. His identity is arguably the biggest twist there is in any series I've seen. There are a large number of clues throughout the series, but the most obvious ones are from this eps and the last few before it.

-Archer spoke to Ilya as if he knew her. Most importantly, all his references to her were referring to the past. "You haven't changed..."

-Archer creates his weapons and blades.

-Most importantly, pay attention to the manner in which Archer speaks to Shiro in this episode. Past dialogues are good to look into as well, but none of them are nearly as large a clue as that one.

-You've seen that pendant before (in some form or another). Just think carefully.

EDIT: The spoiler that was alluded to the subsequent posts has been removed.

[IFHTT]

You may want to suggest that if they want to know they need to sned a request pm to you, because I can only see your post getting edited and you getting warned... Anyways, great episode, and I'm currenty playing the game, though I wish it was translated, I have a way of copying the text ingame to the clipboard and from there I am using a translator to get a rough translation. It's better than nothing. If you can read japanese and are liking this anime, definately get the game.

[Ryllharu]

Well, it wouldn't be a problem if there were legitimate hide tags on this board. (A problem I will attempt to address.) I've been on these boards for some time and know the limits of my post content. That is why I leave messages explaining my behavior when it goes so far astray.

People will want to know. I would've just said it explicitly in a few hours after some more guesses had built up. I did this with Rider. However, in Archer's case, there is significantly less overt information in the series, and it is still somewhat of a leap. I laid out the clues in a manner that make it far simplier than if I hadn't pointed those out. It definitely seems that the writers intentionally left it far more vague.

[IFHTT]

Yeah, I figured you'd covered yourself pretty well, in that, just thought I'd toss the suggestion, anyways I agree with your statement about leaving out info on archer.

[Ryllharu]

There. I got the color code dead on. Now it's not visible in any way.

A question I have now is, what exactly will Rin be doing now? She seemed to be pretty capable of winning this on her own, and Archer was very cool. Berserker needed to kill him...6 times was it? Now that Rin is out, how can she help Shirou? Will she? Or perhaps she'll just go to the church to hide where the Masters who have lost go.

Also, she only had one command spell left. What exactly did she use the other two for?

[darkshadow]

she used 1 when she met archer ( not shown in anime, i can make it a spoiler if you can tell me the correct colour tag) and she used 1 to command archer to vanish after saber attacked him ( after the lancer x saber fight )

+ i dont think you should've revealed who Archer is, since it isnt even revealed in the Fate story line of the game, and its obvious the anime mainly follows that story line

edit: spoiler ( well more like backstory) added:


When he was first summoned he and rin had a massive conversation, in which it seemed archer was reluctant to obey rin ( calling her clumsy as a master in her failed summoning ), the end result was a pissed of rin using one of her command spells to make archer obey her at all times ( although i thought archer was just kidding, he pissed of rin kinda

[Ryllharu]

That's fine and sounds good. It's already taken out. I'll leave the clues though. If they can't figure it out with the way I've laid those out, then too bad.

If its not even in the game, then in the end it really shouldn't be there at all. You've convinced me.

[NeoBear]

that was pretty good it sucked that archer died so soon after showing of his skills wich rocked and like others say it sucks that all Zerker did was swing his sword around like a toon. but i like the fact that they are not making all the deaths all retarded and sorta shocking i would have never expected that archer was gonna die its a given that servants/masters are gonna have to die so it was nice to see that the last 3 deaths have been treated well

[Kraco]

Berserker is supposed to be like that. A person who attacks with a crazed fury, and is thus nearly unstoppable, heedless of danger and pain. I think he was excellent in that sense.

[Yukimura]

Great Episode, Archer kicked major ass, I wish he hadn't had to die. Though it shouldbe noted that he wasn't much on an Archer, most of his attacks were sword based, and though he proved to be extremly talanted with them, they don't fit his class name. A spoiler warning, DO NOT lok up the words Archer spoke in English, unless you want to be well and truly spoiled down to your ankles. Obviously I did, thinking I was just following the clues and it wouldn't matter, as Rider's ID as given by Ryllharu didn't really seem to affect the story that much, big no no in this case.

You only want to know if you don't like surprises of any kind, or if you don't care what happens only how it happens. Ryllharu's clues seem painfully clear now, as they should for any good twist when you look back after taking it. However, as darkshadow said, I don't see Archer's identity coming out in the current storyline, he never told anyone, so how could anyone find out. Maybe the priest knows, but that's the only way I see the plot allowing any disclosure. What's interesting is that even knowing so much of the plot this show doesn't seem any less amazing, I'm always anticipating the next episode, and if I could understand Japanese i'd definately be all over the game.

[IFHTT]

if I could understand Japanese i'd definately be all over the game.

Hopefully in the near future there will be a translated version out, there is a new group that recently started translating, and they seem dedicated enough to finish it. I hope they do complete, though if they don't I can't blame them. There is a shitload of story and text.

[Lucifus]

Uhh....The story jsut got real f*cked up for me from reading Wikipedias Archer definition. Unless you love annoying Spoilers, "Do not look up Wikipedias version!"

[Death13a]

Well thx for heads-up i will keep away from researching characters

[aznroyale]

man, i loved Archer's enchantments. sounded like its death for the oppents and i love his clothes. hot red jacket

[Aeon]

That was the greatest anime episode that I have seen in a long time. It's greatness was final episode worthy. I'm a little upset with myself for calling Archer weak, weeks ago. I liked how they showed that while Archer was fighting he was thinking of Rin and Shirou.

Not a spoiler since it was shown but I'm gonna space this out anyway.








Archer can't be dead, on the trailer it showed him and Berserker fighting in a graveyard. Unless that was just shown for the trailer.

[Board of Command]

Can servants be resummoned after they're defeated? They're spirits to start with.

[NeoBear]

Can servants be resummoned after they're defeated? They're spirits to start with.

i would think so but Rin has no more command seals how do you get around that?

[chobits1217]

[QUOTE=Kraco]It was indeed an excellent episode. The action was good, sensible, and plentiful. But damn Berserk is badass. The pointblank shot by Archer's bow didn't even scratch him. And his healing abilities seem to be quite perfect. Shirou and Saber will have their hands full.

well i know this ahead, but if u read wut Ilya said by the end, it is not that Archer's attack did nothing to Berserker,
"that was five times just for 1 servant"
"i never thought he would be defeated as much as 5 times"
and we never saw scene of archer defeated,
but we did saw scenes where Berserker should have died, the point blank shot, 2 slashes by the swords, and the final scene with berserker seriously injuried, that 3 times already, and he might have died twice in UBW.
i don't know exactly how many lives Berserker has, but it defintely more than 5