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Hakeem_21
Fri, 10-07-2005, 05:02 AM
The Promo and trailer is out in animesuki.

masamuneehs
Fri, 10-07-2005, 10:44 AM
Here's the link to it, its subbed by Bakakozou
http://animesuki.com/group.php/438.html

never seen the original... guess i have to get that once my incredibly slow EXO-squad dl is finished...

Munsu
Fri, 10-07-2005, 11:05 AM
I think the TV series is actually a prequel, so you might not need to watch the original...

Ryllharu
Fri, 10-07-2005, 11:48 AM
I've heard the series takes place at or very near modern day, and I know the movie takes place in the 1960's at an American Air Base. I'd be willing to bet you'd probably be okay not watching the movie, there really isn't all the much that actually takes place. The best part of it was it was both in english and japanese when it was originally produced. All they did to bring it over was sub the opposing language.

Hakeem_21
Fri, 10-07-2005, 03:13 PM
I dont like how she looks now compared to movie? In which she looked awesome.

Also it looks to bright for vamp show but hopefully they will make it good anyway.

XanBcoo
Fri, 10-07-2005, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by: masamuneehs
never seen the original... guess i have to get that once my incredibly slow EXO-squad dl is finished...

You found Exo-Squad episodes? Where from?

Noir
Sat, 10-08-2005, 02:54 PM
I have to disagree, I like the way she looks now better. Though I hope that the series really doesn't ruin the Blood name. I want some GORE! i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

Jadugar
Sun, 10-09-2005, 12:30 AM
The RAW is out.

Blood+ 01 RAW (http://bt.saiyaman.info/)

Darknodin
Sun, 10-09-2005, 07:54 AM
this replaces GSD right? in the time slot?

Aramis
Mon, 10-10-2005, 03:58 AM
^^ yes

FelixZeroAlastor
Mon, 10-10-2005, 05:02 PM
Who is subbing this?

Phoenix20578
Mon, 10-10-2005, 05:07 PM
Bakakozou is right now, but I hope some other groups start. This looks real promising.

Munsu
Mon, 10-10-2005, 05:21 PM
Anime-Kraze all the way

FelixZeroAlastor
Mon, 10-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
Anime-Kraze all the way

Anime-Kraze is better indeed. I'll wait for theirs.

Y
Mon, 10-10-2005, 05:56 PM
Kraze isn't better then us. Fuck you.

i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Phoenix20578
Mon, 10-10-2005, 10:44 PM
Kraze released the trailer

http://www.anime-kraze.org/tor...7CE9E2F%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.anime-kraze.org/torrent/%5BAni-Kraze%5D_Blood+_-_00-2_Trailer_%5BC7CE9E2F%5D.avi.torrent)

Turkish-S
Tue, 10-11-2005, 08:44 AM
WOOT epi 1 by Live-eviL

blood + live-evil (http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/%5BLive-eviL%5D_Blood_Ep_01%5B04E75BC5%5D.avi.torrent)

EDIT: saw the epi..

whow this anime is BRUTE... and subs are good just like DB...
can someone tell me if i have to watch the last vampire to get this anime..??

Chaos
Tue, 10-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Yeah, Live-Evil did a pretty good job with episode 1. Does anyone know where to download the movie? I checked Boxtorrents but I couldn't find anything.

EDIT: Found it...guess I didn't check properly i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif.

Munsu
Tue, 10-11-2005, 03:15 PM
boxtorrents has it... search better

Phoenix20578
Tue, 10-11-2005, 08:12 PM
Just watch the first episode.....Damn that was good....GOD DAMN that was good. Can't wait for more.

dark maginn
Tue, 10-11-2005, 08:29 PM
ya i just watched the first eps to and damn it was good!

badass
Tue, 10-11-2005, 10:28 PM
The animation in this show is really solid, but I wasn't all that impressed with the first episode. I'm willing to watch a few more before I really make a judgement though.

Jadugar
Wed, 10-12-2005, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
I dont like how she looks now compared to movie? In which she looked awesome.

Also it looks to bright for vamp show but hopefully they will make it good anyway.

I agree, she looks great in the movie. She was so cold blooded. I cant remember waht kind of sword she used to kill those monsters.


Blood : The Last Vampire (Dual audio) (http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=blood+the+last+vampire)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7179/saya015kn.jpg

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/7778/saya024zv.jpg

Anyway the first episode looked promising. Waiting for the next one.

Ryllharu
Wed, 10-12-2005, 07:41 AM
She just used a regular katana.

OVA SPOILERS BELOW:







Her first one broke from cutting up so many chipteroens (whatever, that word is too hard to spell, you'll figure it out) and the gov't guy had to buy her a new one. Somehow she got her hands on a good sword before the end of the movie. That one wasn't in the movie. I think this series goes back to her origins itself, preceding 1881 or whenever the photo of her they showed at the end was was taken.

Personally I like the way she looks in the series. She looks similar enough and she looks a whole lot happier now. One of the problems I had with the OVA was how hateful she looked all the time (though understandably so).

Gundam_Strike
Wed, 10-12-2005, 10:09 AM
Oh man, was the movie really that ugly? I didn't remember it as that bad. The series first ep was much nicer. Didn't really enjoy the first ep a lot though, nothing much happened and one didn't even get an introduction of the series potential.

That is the reason I will stick around for another few eps

Knives122
Wed, 10-12-2005, 10:35 AM
the movie wasnt all that interesting either(it was rather boring)

but at least the anime will give us some info on it(b/c that movie gave me nothing in terms of whats going on)

Munsu
Wed, 10-12-2005, 12:12 PM
I never expect anything from OVAs, at least storywise... I just take it for what it was... one kickass character, and some kickass action...

Jadugar
Wed, 10-12-2005, 12:15 PM
True, the animation and fighting was soo smooth. Who cares about the storyline when you have great action sequences. Anyway I hope this series give us decent story as well as some action.

Aeon
Wed, 10-12-2005, 07:32 PM
I watched the first ep just cause it was new and being hyped up on gf as such a great show but I wasn't really into it. I'll watch some more but prob drop it like I did 3shows from last season.

PhaseONE
Fri, 10-14-2005, 04:21 AM
just watched the first episode, the opening scene was sick, i loved it. i own the movie, its way too short but the fight scenes where great.

About the anime, they did a great job on the details on Okinawa, that place where the guy was playing his cello .. the details about the place was almost perfect, in fact i saw one store that still stands today and has the same name but spelled diffrently, about 4 stores down from there u can buy illegal weapons like butterfly knife, sharpen ninja stars even flash bangs and nightvisions goggles, lol, anyway cant wait for the next one.

Phoenix20578
Fri, 10-14-2005, 09:50 AM
Shinsen-Subs realeased Episode 1:
http://bt3.shinsen-subs.org:69...0fc0ec337ff7b9.torrent (http://bt3.shinsen-subs.org:6969/torrents/eb7e3f6577109d9523ab46e23a0fc0ec337ff7b9.torrent)

masamuneehs
Fri, 10-14-2005, 11:39 AM
Episode 1 gets two thumbs up! Opening scene was sick as hell and I don't even mind the totally converted from my past life hero with amnesia.

I'm tuning in for the next episode, anyone have any idea how long this series is planned to be?

GLS
Fri, 10-14-2005, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by: masamuneehs
E...anyone have any idea how long this series is planned to be?

This site here (http://www.anime-source.com/banzai/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=1304) is saying 52 episodes.

Great first episode btw!

Jadugar
Fri, 10-14-2005, 06:13 PM
If the series is 52 episodes long then its great news. That means we will get a detailed story and hopefully plenty of action and gore.

Shinsen-fansub has picked up this series. They arent bad either.

Munsu
Fri, 10-14-2005, 06:31 PM
from the screen shots i saw, their encoding was kinda bad (which is usually the only thing i've liked about them at times)... i'm still gonna wait for kraze...

Or for bakakozou, if they don't crap the release as Black Cat was... though i'm sure Y won't let that happen

Jadugar
Fri, 10-14-2005, 06:42 PM
Bakakozou would be a good choice. Kraze takes too long to sub.

Munsu
Fri, 10-14-2005, 07:01 PM
from the current subbers, you can be asured that live-evil will give you accurate translations

Jadugar
Sat, 10-15-2005, 02:07 PM
Blood+ 01 - Bakakozou (http://weedy.1.vg:8394/torrents/%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_01_%5B9331D382%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=9468724ff d1f2edb78430f7cb6bf3cebec10f491)

Darknodin
Sat, 10-15-2005, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by: PhaseONE
about 4 stores down from there u can buy illegal weapons like butterfly knife, sharpen ninja stars even flash bangs and nightvisions goggles, lol, anyway cant wait for the next one.


uhm...why do you know this?

good episode... although not as good as people were saying... it was an okay intro. oh and i just watched the movie before watching this and well, the movie plays out as an extended intro and is pretty good at that!

PhaseONE
Sat, 10-15-2005, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by: Darknodin


Originally posted by: PhaseONE
about 4 stores down from there u can buy illegal weapons like butterfly knife, sharpen ninja stars even flash bangs and nightvisions goggles, lol, anyway cant wait for the next one.


uhm...why do you know this?

I know because i lived in the Land of the rising sun,i bought from the store before, that place where she was walkin its not even a 10 min walk from the 2nd gate of Kadena Air Force Base and there is like only one place in Okinawa that has a One way street like that where metal poles are the perimeter of the place. The Military nicknamed that place "busy street" because its always busy, even though there not allowed there after 8pm. It is a famous chill place in Okinawa maybe thats why they showed it.

Even though the movie was set at a different Airbase, but according to episode 1 she lives in Okinawa. The movie was at Mainland, either Kyoto or Yokota, forgot. cheers!

Mae
Sun, 10-16-2005, 09:32 PM
The first ep wasn't bad, but I had no idea what was going on in the end. The cello dude shows up, she gets her teacher, he's killed by someone, and the vampires show up. Now, is the cello dude with the vampires or what? And what the hell were they doing in the dark? There's these disgusting dripping/things being torn apart noises, he has something in his hands? She's yelling stop, and then... they're kissing? With a monster standing in the corner of the room? WTF?

And I restate my previous doubts about a mysterious cello player. Flute, yes. Piano, yes. Violin, yes. Even saxaphone would be ok. But what kind of mystery man plays a freaking cello???

Ryllharu
Mon, 10-17-2005, 06:32 AM
All the creepy vampire men play the cello, because of its full bodied and soothing sound. Though I am amazing he can play it when he banadages up his freak hand.

Since Saya is a vampire, we know that if you've seen the movie, plus there are tons of hints in the first eps, no weight gain from food, goes to the hospital for blood transfusions, etc. But with the flashbacks intersperced in the first eps, it got the impression the creepy cello guy was actually the person that turned her. He fed her his own blood through that kiss. Apparently that does something, because the cut on her face healed.

kAi
Mon, 10-17-2005, 09:32 AM
She probably had to be 'awaken' again, drinking some blood from that guy is a possibilty. Also, wondering about Kai, how he'll react to Saya being a vampire. There is nice blood content also.

Episode 2 is about, but haven't gotten that yet, and by watching the first episode, it seems good hopefully it'll get better, which I think it will, as this is only an introduction, and you haven't seen her use any vampire abilities as of yet. At the start I thought she was putting the jumping act on, like you see her jump but not that high, I thought she was trying to be a normal high school girl or something.

Ryllharu
Mon, 10-17-2005, 02:25 PM
Continuing from my previous post:

That jump is another thing that hints at her superior abilities. I thought 'almost two meters' was a little abnormal for a high school women's high jump, and it turns out it is. Apparently the high jump record for Texas (thanks Google) is 1.93 meters. Saya just missed 2 meters. I had the same impression as Kai at first. I thought she was faking a little bit, even though that whole image really didn't fit the image we all got from the movie.

I'm guessing her abilities were stunted somehow, but they still were fairly superior. After the 'transfusion' she'll be even stronger.

Jadugar
Tue, 10-18-2005, 11:28 PM
Raw is out for Blood+ 02

http://bt.saiyaman.info/

Aeon
Thu, 10-20-2005, 09:36 PM
Ep 2 by Live Evil (http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/%5BLive-eviL%5D_Blood_Ep_02%5BBEF6A089%5D.avi.torrent)

I didn't like the first ep much, gonna give it another go.

Ryllharu
Fri, 10-21-2005, 05:43 AM
Officially makes up for the entire movie (which I did like, but wasn't great), and becomes the best (serious) vampire anime I've seen, all in the first 4 minutes.

The series isn't all action, and I'm glad it isn't. There's a lot of good character dynamics to go into, and Blood+ does them in a smooth way that naturally flows from one to the next. Not fast paced, not slow paced, but just the right one for this kind of series.

I did finally remember why she was so pissed off in the movie all the time though. I'll let a few more people take the time to watch this eps and maybe see the movie if they haven't seen that.

Phoenix20578
Fri, 10-21-2005, 09:36 AM
This show is really good. There was just enouph action to keep me watching and wanting more. I cant
wait untill the next episode next week. Saya kicks ass and that sword was nice.

Munsu
Fri, 10-21-2005, 02:48 PM
I only have two problems with this show right now...

First, I thought the animation when they faught would've been better...

Second, the VA's suck, especially when Kai is screaming...


Also, it seems when Saya awakens she starts talking in English, it'll be interesting if they can pull that off correctly...

Ryllharu
Fri, 10-21-2005, 04:35 PM
Well, the movie was bilingual, so I wasn't really surprised about that.

I have no problem with the rest of the voicework, but Kai does suck.

Aeon
Fri, 10-21-2005, 08:13 PM
Dunno why I just don't like the musician, Saya seems cool(not Shana cool) enough to keep me watching. Only way I see it making it in my top 5 list is if Trinity Blood or Basilisk finish.

Darknodin
Sat, 10-22-2005, 08:44 AM
Bilingual??

there was a higher percentage of english in it than the first Kill Bill movie...


oh and who said that there wasn't enough Gore in the series????

Chaos
Sat, 10-22-2005, 12:39 PM
Bakakozou - Blood+ Episode 2 (http://weedy.1.vg:8394/torrents/%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_02_%5BE7A0012A%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=9a5790571 b57b7befe3e1c26e877c9b547ac0d8d)

masamuneehs
Sat, 10-22-2005, 12:56 PM
I'm still willing to stick with this show. I feel it's got a lot of elements in place that could make it really entertaining in the long run. I also feel like the action will pick up as well.

Cello guy is pretty cliche, standard cookie-cutter "Tall dark and handsome sad guy who kicks major ass".

I can only wonder how the guy connected with the 'Mouse' project can't keep a lid on those things. 2 escapees? You'd think they'd keep something like those on completele lockdown on the bottom levels of Area 51... He also seems oblivious to Saya and the Cello player even existing... Both their blood could be found at the school in the room the Mouse was killed in....

Darknodin
Sat, 10-22-2005, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by: masamuneehs
I'm still willing to stick with this show. I feel it's got a lot of elements in place that could make it really entertaining in the long run. I also feel like the action will pick up as well.

Cello guy is pretty cliche, standard cookie-cutter "Tall dark and handsome sad guy who kicks major ass".

I can only wonder how the guy connected with the 'Mouse' project can't keep a lid on those things. 2 escapees? You'd think they'd keep something like those on completele lockdown on the bottom levels of Area 51... He also seems oblivious to Saya and the Cello player even existing... Both their blood could be found at the school in the room the Mouse was killed in....



maybe he simply doesn't care about their existence... maybe the mice are much more important!

PhaseONE
Sun, 10-23-2005, 03:31 AM
So are the mouse things like another horribly gone wrong experiments kind of thing, because thats what it seems like they are, but i dont know, guess we have to wait and see, probably they tried to fuse vampires blood into a human body or something and got a human transforming into a very ugly bat with no wings. I wonder if they explained it in the movie, i forgot. The next couple of episode will tell if this series will be great, i like it so far. oh and that beach they were at, thats a fuck fest at night i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Phoenix20578
Mon, 10-24-2005, 11:29 AM
W00T!! Episode 3 (http://bt3.shinsen-subs.org:6969/torrents/1acfc0819de41a5e840621dc9c816376025c5d10.torrent) is from from Shinsen-Subs

outkast7053
Sun, 10-30-2005, 11:34 PM
Episode 4 by Shinsen (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_04_%5B0AD45814%5D.avi.torrent)

RPG2000
Mon, 10-31-2005, 11:54 AM
Episodes 2 and 3 were a bit slow. Some facts were reveled about Saya's and the family she is living with, which was nice. The fact that Kai and Riku were also "adopted" was kinda interesting; I thought they were George real sons, for some reason...figure.

Episode 4 was more of my liking as we see Saya turned all bloody killer again. The fight scene was nice; it went pretty smooth.

Looking forward the next episode&

kAi
Mon, 10-31-2005, 08:54 PM
Yeah, I thought they were George's real sons also, but it's cool to see that they were adopted also.
Well, the US army have taken George.
Can't wait for the next episode, this is going really well.

Lefty
Tue, 11-01-2005, 03:13 AM
I have a bad feeling about George and Saya's next meeting. I see a very heart broken death coming our way in the next few ep's.

Phoenix20578
Tue, 11-01-2005, 05:28 PM
Live-Evil Released their version of episode 3 (finnaly).
http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/

badass
Tue, 11-01-2005, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by: Phoenix20578
Live-Evil Released their version of episode 3 (finnaly).
http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/

Yeah, someone needs to give Live-eviL a deadline or something. They should know by now that making people wait an extra week or two to download their release is totally unacceptable.

EDIT to below: Sorry, I'll add sarcasm tags for you next time.

Darknodin
Tue, 11-01-2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by: badass


Originally posted by: Phoenix20578
Live-Evil Released their version of episode 3 (finnaly).
http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/

Yeah, someone needs to give Live-eviL a deadline or something. They should know by now that making people wait an extra week or two to download their release is totally unacceptable.



Why??? they are doing it for free! they could take a month if they wanted to... Its their choice

masamuneehs
Thu, 11-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Bakakozou has released their version of Episode 4

http://animesuki.com/group.php/438.html

Phoenix20578
Sun, 11-06-2005, 07:21 PM
Episode 4 from Live-Evil (http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/%5BLive-eviL%5D_Blood_Ep_04%5B0D97C0BE%5D.avi.torrent) I prefer this group. They seem to do the best quality work after I compared the different subs.

Munsu
Mon, 11-07-2005, 02:06 AM
Humm I see that those live-evil fuckers changed their font from episode 2 on... They went from a decent but innappropiate font, to a horrible font... I wonder what made them change... As usual, the font selection for live-evil is horrible

Phoenix20578
Mon, 11-07-2005, 07:04 PM
Episode 5 by Shinsen (http://bittorrent.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_05_%5B8FFD089A%5D.avi.torrent) is out.

Terracosmo
Tue, 11-08-2005, 03:53 AM
A Blood + forum has been created, so run over there!

Phoenix20578
Tue, 11-08-2005, 09:11 AM
Episode 5 (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_05_%5B8FFD089A%5D.avi.torrent) Is out

This episode was good as a trans. episode. The next episode should have a lot of action in store.

Death13a
Tue, 11-08-2005, 02:34 PM
Spoiler:







it looks like Gorge was feeded with some explosive/posion blood to weeken/kill mouse (it too hard to spell creatures name) or plan D is blow the whole building to ground.

Phoenix20578
Tue, 11-08-2005, 02:55 PM
Thats more of a theory. A spoiler is when you know that it will happen, but that is still pretty likely.

masamuneehs
Tue, 11-08-2005, 06:39 PM
This was a decent episode, but I'm still pretty confused as to WHO is behind Red Shield and who is pulling the strings in the U.S. military, not to mention the weird 'candy guy'... Lots of stuff that I hope they get around to explaining...

Watching that fight scene was pretty rough. No mercy. That knee to the face looked especially wicked...

Next episode looks to be action-packed.

Kensee
Wed, 11-09-2005, 01:20 AM
Hhahah I like the action =D.
I'm glad they finally made a sepereate section in the forum for this anime =D It's kinda cool. I sitll have to watch the original movie though.

masamuneehs
Wed, 11-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Bakakozou has released their version of Episode 5.... in the future it seems it would be better to have a separate topic for release info (maybe even just one thread for ALL Blood+ releases?) and a different one for discussion.

http://a.scarywater.net/bakakozou/

EDIT: In response to below post (no need to add another post on my part), I was thinking the one release thread would be good to Sticky to the top of the section, just because I HATE going through a Discussion thread, looking for my fansub of choice, or just checking to see if my fansub of choice has been released or not, and accidentally reading events that take place in the episode and sorta spoiling it for myself. That would totally be avoided if a Release thread was made (and provided people stick to the rules, which is 'NO Discussion in the Release thread')

Death13a
Wed, 11-09-2005, 11:36 PM
since it has limited episodes leave it as it is release and discussion togather.

Ryllharu
Thu, 11-10-2005, 12:19 AM
<u>Continuing the Release discussion</u>:

There really isn't anything forcing you to go into the eps threads to see if your preferred group has not yet released it. There are other sites for it. Baka-updates, Tokyotosho, each group's respective channels, forums, and websites. If the group you want doesn't appear there, then don't go poking in the thread. It is as simple as opening a new tab in Firefox, or a new window in IE (not that anyone uses IE seriously anymore).

Does this forum really need to be a one-stop shop for people? Links are fine in some of the threads, but if I found the release, most people should be able to find it on their own, including the preferred versions. From their perspective, the people who demand links often like to see each group's release in the thread. One for a speedsub, and one for a quality version they prefer.

I'm fine with the way all the other sections of the forums work.

You can always wait until Gotwoot implements spoiler tags to feel safe in the threads, but then again, after an eps is released by any group, its pretty much free game. That's why I usually stay out of the eps thread until I've watched it.

<u>Blood+ eps 5 discussion:</u>
Not all that much happened in this eps, other than Kai finally getting what he severely needed (though from the preview it doesn't look like it stuck.

The series should begin to pick up soon because it looks like a lot of things are going to happen very fast in the next couple of eps.

kAi
Fri, 11-11-2005, 11:47 PM
Well, you know Kai isn't going to stick with not doing anything, he'll find a way to help out somehow I guess.
It seems Saya is finally coming to grips with the whole thing, for her family.

Yeah, looking for to the next couple of episodes.

piasEnigma
Tue, 11-15-2005, 09:40 AM
Well it's out by Shinsen-Subs, so get it here. (http://bittorrent.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_06_%5B0CC00C7B%5D.avi.torrent)

Phoenix20578
Tue, 11-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Pretty good episode. This series has an amazing storyline, and it just keeps getting more and more
compeling. One thing is still puzeling me. Why is it that America is the bad guy, or more accuratly,
the American goverment?

masamuneehs
Tue, 11-15-2005, 10:01 PM
Its easy to rag on America nowadays... what with our doctrine of being "the world's police", as Frenchie referenced...

David is my favorite character in this show. Shotgun &gt; joo. I was sorta shocked that he didn't want Saya fully triggered for battle before going in there... poor tactics really... Kai just never seems to learn...

Should be interesting to see where "the new site" is going to be... 6 was a pretty damn good episode. I'm sticking with this show, though it can be slow at times. The blood and action are reason enough, not to mention the rocking storyline so far. Intrigue up to your ears!

UberSuperHACKER
Tue, 11-15-2005, 10:23 PM
yeah well the goveremnt kinda does need to get ragged on a bit... its not like they are doing EVERYTHING INCORRECTLY .. I am not oine of those left or right wing extreemists who ramble on and on about how bush is the man or he is a idiot, but one thing is certian , lately we have been stepping on ALOT OF other peoples toes...

more over it was a "theme" in the original movie... theirfore I guess they ended up running with it

not all of america is bad tho... think of the "father" guy (his name escapes me...) in the show.. he is american and he is cool

Phoenix20578
Tue, 11-15-2005, 11:31 PM
His name is George. Yeah, he is cool, but it was fucked up that they turned him into a Chipteroen.

Eurasian
Wed, 11-16-2005, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by: Phoenix20578
Pretty good episode. This series has an amazing storyline, and it just keeps getting more and more
compeling. One thing is still puzeling me. Why is it that America is the bad guy, or more accuratly,
the American goverment?

I don't think the American government is the bad guy. I think that French guy should be considered the bad guy of this series. He is the one ordering all the officers around.

piasEnigma
Wed, 11-16-2005, 03:19 AM
Way fucked up that they killed off the father so early.

Lefty
Wed, 11-16-2005, 05:36 AM
I knew it was going to end like that, Only way for Saya to get off her ass and kill on comand.

Munsu
Wed, 11-16-2005, 10:57 AM
I like how at the end of the episode, Saya is still full of blood in the car... no one cared to wipe it off... and she doesn't freak out like she always do...

piasEnigma
Wed, 11-16-2005, 02:35 PM
It's because she's being slowly desensetized.

darkmetal505
Thu, 11-17-2005, 11:26 PM
saya was being a pansy

kAi
Sun, 11-20-2005, 07:59 AM
Well, another good episode, the father went quicker than I thought he would. The story is progressing well, Kai is trying to be helpful, but he really can't do much considering he is a school kid, and human. He'll probably do something big later on though.

Phoenix20578
Wed, 11-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Episode 5 by Live-Evil (http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/%5BLive-eviL%5D_Blood_Ep_05%5BDEA8455A%5D.avi.torrent)

Phoenix20578
Thu, 11-24-2005, 08:29 AM
http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5B...909F666%5D.avi.torrent (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_07_%5BF909F666%5D.avi.torrent)

darkmetal505
Thu, 11-24-2005, 04:41 PM
not much fighting, more development though..

el_boss
Sun, 11-27-2005, 04:54 PM
Just finished watching all 7 eps and I'm not really impressed. I know it's early in the show so I'm not going to give up yet. The main character is a little meh, but I really like Haji though.

Funny facts:
George = Jiraiya
Riku = Ranmaru (I thougt it was Alphonse Elric first)

Munsu
Tue, 11-29-2005, 03:50 AM
Yep, this episode was fairly boring...

But it looks like next episode will be awesome...

Ryllharu
Tue, 11-29-2005, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by: el_boss
Just finished watching all 7 eps and I'm not really impressed. I know it's early in the show so I'm not going to give up yet. The main character is a little meh, but I really like Haji though.

Funny facts:
George = Jiraiya
Riku = Ranmaru (I thougt it was Alphonse Elric first)

I don't know why, but whenever they say the name Haji, all I can think of is a similarly named servant-type character from Tsukiyomi Moon Phase.

Haiji (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8927/haijiandhazuki6oi.jpg)

Munsu
Tue, 11-29-2005, 12:45 PM
Yeah, same thing happens to me...

And they pretty much have the same relationship... Master-Servant

darkmetal505
Wed, 11-30-2005, 08:20 PM
so this wine thing makes no sense.

Phoenix20578
Thu, 12-01-2005, 02:25 PM
If you think about it, it does. Blood looks a little like wine. They desgise the Delta 67 as wine and ship it for Nam to Japan.

burnout
Sun, 12-04-2005, 10:42 AM
[YuME-Raws]_Blood+_09_(640x480_120f_DivX511)[4E4898AF].avi.torrent

its on mininova its a raw bit its nice

Phoenix20578
Sun, 12-04-2005, 11:50 AM
Thats the raw. Wait until the sub comes out next time, that when we start discussions.

darkmetal505
Sun, 12-04-2005, 07:55 PM
and if you post the raw, post the link

Jadugar
Sun, 12-04-2005, 07:58 PM
Blood + 09 RAW

Blood 09 (YuME-Raws) (http://bt.yumeru.net/team/549b52982fa2e4989d8cca67117874a6fcd89dfb.torrent)

Kensee
Mon, 12-05-2005, 02:33 AM
I'm trying to catch up (i left off on 5 before overworked on school), but the tracker for 7 seems to be down, any suggestions?

Zhan
Mon, 12-05-2005, 02:29 PM
Go download the Bakakozou one.

burnout
Mon, 12-05-2005, 05:57 PM
sorry i tryed but it didnt work :'(

Jadugar
Mon, 12-05-2005, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by: burnout
sorry i tryed but it didnt work :'(

Try clicking on the link.i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Blood + 09 RAW

http://bt.saiyaman.info/

Blood 09 (YuME-Raws) (http://bt.yumeru.net/team/549b52982fa2e4989d8cca67117874a6fcd89dfb.torrent)

UberSuperHACKER
Sat, 12-10-2005, 10:58 AM
why are they so far behind in subbing blood?

darkmetal505
Sat, 12-10-2005, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by: UberSuperHACKER
why are they so far behind in subbing blood?

who is? Shinsen has up to episode 8

UberSuperHACKER
Sat, 12-10-2005, 04:57 PM
well I guess not so far behind as much as... blood+ subs are normally is out a few days after the raw hits now its been a week..so 10 will be out and I will still be waitin on 9... was just wonderin if anyone heard anything I guess

Munsu
Sun, 12-11-2005, 12:59 AM
Everyone dropped the series, that's why...

burnout
Sun, 12-11-2005, 07:47 AM
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

and why btw it isnt licensed yet is it???

i didnt read about that on the forums

masamuneehs
Sun, 12-11-2005, 05:39 PM
Animesuki has Blood+ episode 9 from Shinsen listed...
but the link doesn't seem to work for me...

will figure this out

looks like Shinsens primary torrent tracker is down as of now. No word from their forums or anything on their site... strange because Animesuki lists multilpe uploads and download for episode 9... but i can't even connect to their tracker site

Here's the link if anyone wants to try it
http://bittorrent.shinsen-subs...3151A02%5D.avi.torrent (http://bittorrent.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_09_%5B53151A02%5D.avi.torrent)

Editted again: Here ya go!
Mininova's got us covered! (http://www.mininova.org/tor/174838)

EDITTED AGAIN: Both links are working now.

Jadugar
Sun, 12-11-2005, 05:48 PM
The link is working fine for me.......

Blood+ 09 - Shinsen Subs (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_09_%5B53151A02%5D.avi.torrent)

UberSuperHACKER
Mon, 12-12-2005, 12:33 AM
that episode smelt fillerish.....not terrible tho... atleast they said somethin about riku's thing for hearin the sounds.. (he did that in an episode awhile back and he could hear the "Chpoltae" beasts ... the Chipperterian... Chlaporter.. ehhwhat ever they are called

masamuneehs
Mon, 12-12-2005, 05:37 AM
Bakakozou has released episode 9
http://a.scarywater.net/bakakozou/

Ryllharu
Mon, 12-12-2005, 09:17 AM
I thought it was introducing the other parallel storyline, that will eventually converge. As said above, we get confirmation that Riku can hear the noises, even though he hasn't been fed any of the drugs. It kinda makes you feel really bad for him though, he just met Mui, starts to like her, and she'll probably end up turning into a Chirtperon (yeah, none of us can spell it). And just when it starts to get intresting there, with the two of them getting kidnapped, we switch back to Saya, who's storyline we wanted to learn more about, only to get stuck with Kai and Riku (the whiners) for this eps.

That's the way to keep us all watching.

Darknodin
Mon, 12-12-2005, 07:23 PM
c'mon... its CHIROPTERAN... PTERA means wing, CHIRO means... i forgot... their bats!
anyways... ok episode... can appreciate the art i guess!

Ryllharu
Mon, 12-12-2005, 11:08 PM
I bet you looked it up....

If not, I'm impressed. I've seen it so many times and I still can't remember.

darkmetal505
Tue, 12-13-2005, 04:22 PM
eh this episode was ok. I liked how Mui's brother was just laying the landmines in piles.

SamuraiX-
Fri, 12-30-2005, 11:52 PM
Question, is Trinity Blood linked with Blood+? Because I see that Shinsen subs for both of them, so is one like a prequel or a sequel to the other? If so, which do I need to watch first?

Jadugar
Sat, 12-31-2005, 05:34 AM
Two different anime series.

SamuraiX-
Sun, 01-08-2006, 09:50 PM
(Shinsen-Subs) - Blood+ 13 Subbed (http://www.mininova.org/get/195712)

(l33t-raws) - Blood+ 13 RAW (http://www.mininova.org/get/194686)

(S^M) - Blood+ 13 RAW (http://www.mininova.org/get/195964)

darkmetal505
Mon, 01-09-2006, 08:01 PM
you probably dont want to put it as a dicussion until a sub is out

UberSuperHACKER
Mon, 01-09-2006, 11:33 PM
OR we could have a discussion about how the raw is not subbed .. thus we are talking about the sub (which does not exist yet) and hence discussing it......................

Phoenix20578
Tue, 01-10-2006, 12:58 AM
Or, we could not for two reasons:

1. Discussions about the raw not being subbed are annoying
2. Shinsen released the sub.

Blood+ - 13 (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_13_%5B27844230%5D.avi.torrent)

Yukimura
Tue, 01-10-2006, 12:59 AM
omfg Phoenix, posted the link right b4 me!!!!!

SamuraiX-
Tue, 01-10-2006, 01:01 AM
Already posted it guys. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

EDIT: And I posted it a WHOLE hour before Phoenix. Booya! i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

EDIT2: @Phoenix Yeah, but if I could post them all in the first post, just let me. So the rest of the topic is clean and full of opinions about the current episode. ^_^

Phoenix20578
Tue, 01-10-2006, 01:03 AM
No one looks at the first post for recent releases, so it doesn't matter

SamuraiX-
Tue, 01-10-2006, 01:46 AM
Just watched it. Probably the best episode yet, in my opinion. Filled with Action, Drama, and even more Mystery as to what the heck is going to happen next. All in all, it was an epsiode that was well worth loosing twenty-five minutes of sleep over. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Looks like the series is going back to the slow episodes again, starting with episode 14 next week. I really hope they don't let the action and plot just drop back down to a crawl again. i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif

Oh, I also have a question about the episode...

[Episode 13 Spoilers Below]

When Kai entered the room where Saya was slaying what was left of those demonic-children, notice he saw Spencer (the guy with blonde hair) dead on the ground. I'm wondering, did Saya or the demonic-children kill him? It's probably meant to be evident that Saya killed him, but what do you guys think?

Yukimura
Tue, 01-10-2006, 04:11 AM
So many more questions now. Did they get that other container, and what was in it? Why didn't Saya take out David if she was killing everyone in the room? Actually falling from a helicopter 40+ ft in the air that had just been hit by a rocket, landing on essentially one foot, and the being able to stand up says to me that maybe he's immortal or something, maybe just plot device immortal, but immortal none the less. Hope there isn't going to be a long break from the main story, I must know what's going on.

Death13a
Tue, 01-10-2006, 09:48 AM
Get used to not getting answeres for 2-3 episodes for particular question. Hopefully next episode will answer some questions about Saya from David point of view. As for him to be immortal i don't think so. But he does have a damn good luck, he may be little more then regular human. It looks like candy-man doesn't knows what he got himself into or who he works with.

UberSuperHACKER
Tue, 01-10-2006, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by: Phoenix20578
Or, we could not for two reasons:

1. Discussions about the raw not being subbed are annoying
2. Shinsen released the sub.

Blood+ - 13 (http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_13_%5B27844230%5D.avi.torrent)

Its a shame ..... oh well If only the sub didn;t get realased then we coudl try to have a conversaion about how subs not being subbed conversations are annoying and they shouln;t be had but people have them anyway

Darknodin
Tue, 01-10-2006, 01:23 PM
so... Haji can transform into a monster... and so can the blond guy i guess... and the french guy is not a chiropteron... its interesting seeing him like this, not knowing what the hell is going on!

EDIT: you posted THREE different raws????

Munsu
Tue, 01-10-2006, 03:45 PM
It would be pointless to post the same raw three different times wouldn't it?

SamuraiX-
Tue, 01-10-2006, 06:28 PM
Maybe some people only want a RAW episode from a specific kind of fansub group. Anyway, it's pointless to make a big deal out of it. I just decided to post any video that relates to Blood+ 13.

darkmetal505
Tue, 01-10-2006, 08:44 PM
what heartless bastards they were... I think Saya was a chiropetran slayer back in the Vietnam War, its just when she got out of hand, she slayed everyone in sight. The other guys are trying to turn everyone in to chiropetrans? The second helicopter was a decoy, they expected something like that to happen. Diva is some crazy monster.

SamuraiX-
Tue, 01-10-2006, 08:57 PM
Yeah, looks that way. It just made me sick when I realized that those actually used to be real children. It was just so plain wrong, has an Anime ever done something like this before? Even when they were killing them, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the kids.

I felt really sorry for Mui, I hope she is going to be ok. i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif She probably will though, if she hasn't fully turned, then we might be able to see her again in later episodes.

Diva is either going to be the final enemy Saya is going to have to take down, or maybe just a glimpse of what the true evil behind all this is like. I don't know, but this series is starting to look very interesting. ^_^

darkmetal505
Tue, 01-10-2006, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by: SamuraiX-
Yeah, looks that way. It just made me sick when I realized that those actually used to be real children. It was just so plain wrong, has an Anime ever done something like this before? Even when they were killing them, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the kids.



Actually I was being sarcastic, I could care less what they did to the children. It wouldve been cool to see Mui eat Riku or Kai.

Ryllharu
Tue, 01-10-2006, 09:45 PM
I suspect Diva actually resembles Saya. There was that brief flash in this eps where they showed another girl with long hair on a blue backgroud. It looked a lot like Saya when she came out of the tomb, but it was definitely not her.

Diva sings, and its name is "diva." That's my thought progression anyway.

darkmetal505
Tue, 01-10-2006, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
I suspect Diva actually resembles Saya. There was that brief flash in this eps where they showed another girl with long hair on a blue backgroud. It looked a lot like Saya when she came out of the tomb, but it was definitely not her.

Diva sings, and its name is "diva." That's my thought progression anyway.

like a counter part? interesting theory.

SamuraiX-
Tue, 01-10-2006, 10:19 PM
I was thinking that, you know, Saya it he "good one", and Diva is the "bad one". But then I thought, naw. It's already been done, but hell, maybe they'll do it again and throw some spice in there. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Munsu
Wed, 01-11-2006, 12:28 PM
Original vampires are usually closely related, so it shouldn't be much a surprise if both of them are related somehow...

masamuneehs
Sat, 01-14-2006, 10:33 AM
Bakakozu has released episode 13
Blood + Episode 13, Bakakozou (http://a.scarywater.net/bakakozou/%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood_-_13_%5BCE18A8FF%5D.avi.torrent)

They also have a batch of episodes 1-12 available for download, FYI

el_boss
Sat, 01-14-2006, 10:59 AM
This was the best episode so far. I'm just waiting for Haji to transform in to a beast, that would be so cool. Finally Saya went berserk, but we didn't get to see it.i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif

*Supid theory time* Yay! It's been a long time since I did one of these.

Diva and Saya might have been one being back in the vietnam war or whatever is shown in all those slaughter flash-backs. Then we don't know exactly what happened, but Diva got sealed or captured or something.

There are a number of ways that Diva and Saya could have been separated.
1. Saya was exorcised from Diva in order to create a being that is pure evil.
2. Diva "spawned" Saya when she got captured.
3. Saya was the original and cast out Diva from her body so she would gain control over the body.

Some other theories that don't build on them being one being to begin with.
4. Saya is a (failed) clone of Diva.
5. Diva and Saya are the (twin) daughters of some vampire overlord.
6. Saya is Diva's daughter.

Darknodin
Sat, 01-14-2006, 11:03 AM
so... if Diva is another vampire (i think so)... do you think they'll introduce even more of them? that would be interesting...

(btw i wasn't makign a fuss about the raws... just finding it interesting)

Yukimura
Thu, 01-19-2006, 12:22 PM
If this series is really extended from the movie then Saya is supposed to be the only 'original' left. I assume that means original vampire, but movie David could have been wrong. It would make sense for Diva to be another true vampire from her effects on the other creatures, though come to think of it neither Saya nor the Phantom and his buddies really act like any vamipres or blood drinking fiends i've heard of, maybe only the monsters forms need to drink blood, but then what's up with the others, what are they? and what do they want? So many puzzles in this anime, I hope the story unfolds well...

masamuneehs
Sat, 01-21-2006, 02:44 PM
After a long break Live Evil is back subbing Blood+

They only are up to Episode 7 though, so it'll be awhile before they catch up. Personally, however, I'm content with Bakakozou's products...

Blood+ - Episode 7 - Live Evil (http://a.scarywater.net/live-evil/%5BLive-eviL%5D_Blood_Ep_07%5B5829026F%5D.avi.torrent)

Munsu
Sat, 01-21-2006, 10:41 PM
If you are worrying about archiving the series, you are better off with Anime-Kraze... We are not that far away before this series gets licensed, plus Anime-Kraze has the best release...

GLS
Sat, 01-21-2006, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
If you are worrying about archiving the series, you are better off with Anime-Kraze... We are not that far away before this series gets licensed, plus Anime-Kraze has the best release...

They discontinued subbing the series.

Munsu
Sun, 01-22-2006, 12:59 AM
Ah damnit... I didn't know that... fucking lamers.

nests
Mon, 01-23-2006, 05:27 PM
Another one bites the dust
Read article (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=8241)

darkmetal505
Mon, 01-23-2006, 05:33 PM
Damn. Well Im sure there will still be subbers.

SamuraiX-
Mon, 01-23-2006, 06:21 PM
How in the hell did Blood+ get licensed?! My god, I thought that this series would be the special one that wouldn't get licensed. &gt;_&lt;

I would just love to see them try to broadcast Blood+ on Cartoon Network or Adult Swim, they would have to cut out nearly every action scene. XD

el_boss
Mon, 01-23-2006, 06:38 PM
I still don't get why Bleach isn't licenced.

Ryllharu
Tue, 01-24-2006, 06:48 AM
Same reason Naruto took so long to get taken. The franchise is large enough to make the license really expensive.

Phoenix20578
Tue, 01-24-2006, 09:29 AM
Great, another one gets licenced. Is it me or is this happening a little more fequently now?

kooshi
Tue, 01-24-2006, 05:16 PM
Bloody hell, that sucks. Hopefully, a fansub will still get the job done.

nests
Tue, 01-24-2006, 09:00 PM
Shinsen-subs (http://www.shinsen-subs.org/) has decided to stop subbing Blood+



Blood+ Dropped posted by Kyougokudou on Tue Jan 24 22:57:16 2006

Contrary to posts from elsewhere on the forums, Shinsen-subs has decided to drop Blood+.

This is solely my decision as translator of the series. A majority of the rest of the group opposes it, but I feel that Sony is unlikely to display the same restraint as Funimation or Bandai, and that exposing myself, my family, and the rest of the Blood+ team to legal risk is foolishness. For all the talk of Funi's "high-handedness", none of us were sued, and indeed in the entire history of fansubbing, nobody has been. I believe that this is because the anime companies that we know and love are all closely involved with the community, and have far too much to lose through legal methods when a simple C&amp;D letter would suffice. I also believe that this is not true of Sony.

Just to clarify, here's what this does NOT mean:
SHS has NOT recieved any notice from Sony.
SHS has NOT suddenly switched to an unliscenced-only group.

As this is my decision and not the groups, the forum is an inappropriate place to register any complaints you may have. I can be contacted at sairai_x@hotmail.com, or via the PM button in the forum.

We hope you've enjoyed this series so far, and that you'll continue to enjoy our other releases.

darkmetal505
Tue, 01-24-2006, 09:16 PM
noo!!! no more fast releases! So Anime-Kraze and Shinsen are gone, so that means Bakakozu will have to fill in.

Phoenix20578
Tue, 01-24-2006, 09:23 PM
Live-Evil's gonna drop it also

SamuraiX-
Tue, 01-24-2006, 10:19 PM
For the love of God!! If Baka drops it too, we're screwed. &gt;_&lt;

kooshi
Tue, 01-24-2006, 11:22 PM
Oh boy......... this doesn't look good at all..........
So far, they say that they don't have any comments about the licensing.

el_boss
Sat, 01-28-2006, 08:30 AM
Meh, the show isn't that good anyway. I was about to stop watching it anyway.

Ryllharu
Sat, 01-28-2006, 11:57 AM
It's at eps 14 of 50. Some people said the same thing about Eureka 7 and Bleach as I recall. (Bleach 14 was around the time Ichigo fought the Menos, and after that everyone was like "OMFG!!Z this series iz teh bestest!!" where before many were still deciding if it was worth it. After that eps, the fanbase seemed to double or even triple.)

It just needed time to develop, which unfortunately it didn't get.

el_boss
Sat, 01-28-2006, 01:39 PM
I meant that if they are going to stop sometime. It's better now before it has become an addiction.

By the way, it's going to be 52 eps.

Ryllharu
Sat, 01-28-2006, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by: el_boss
Meh, the show isn't that good anyway. I was about to stop watching it anyway.

Not what it sounded like to me, but whatever.

el_boss
Sat, 01-28-2006, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by: Ryllharu


Originally posted by: el_boss
Meh, the show isn't that good anyway. I was about to stop watching it anyway.
Not what it sounded like to me, but whatever.
Good thing that I cleared it up then.i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Kyuuzou
Tue, 01-31-2006, 03:12 AM
Well here's Blood+ episode 15 for those that have been wating..........http://www.dreamorabt.com/down...76EB126%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.dreamorabt.com/download.php?id=350&amp;name=%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_15_%5B376EB126%5D.avi.torrent)

t1no
Tue, 01-31-2006, 03:23 AM
Which is better Shinsen or Bakaozou?

Ryllharu
Tue, 01-31-2006, 07:08 AM
Doesn't really matter much now does it?

Both groups are decent, I just dislike the size of Bakakozou's encodes. Very unfriendly to my bandwidth. The translations are as good if not slightly better than Shinsen's (since Shinsen's translators tend to take liberties from time to time with them).

masamuneehs
Tue, 01-31-2006, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by: t1no
Which is better Shinsen or Bakaozou?

And, it REALLY doesn't matter as this is the latest out of Shinsen (borrowed from the Blood + Licensed by Sony thread (http://forums.gotwoot.net/messageview.cfm?catid=68&amp;threadid=17310&amp;enterthrea d=y), posted by nests)

Shinsen-subs has decided to stop subbing Blood+

quote:
Blood+ Dropped posted by Kyougokudou on Tue Jan 24 22:57:16 2006

Contrary to posts from elsewhere on the forums, Shinsen-subs has decided to drop Blood+.

This is solely my decision as translator of the series. A majority of the rest of the group opposes it, but I feel that Sony is unlikely to display the same restraint as Funimation or Bandai, and that exposing myself, my family, and the rest of the Blood+ team to legal risk is foolishness. For all the talk of Funi's "high-handedness", none of us were sued, and indeed in the entire history of fansubbing, nobody has been. I believe that this is because the anime companies that we know and love are all closely involved with the community, and have far too much to lose through legal methods when a simple C&amp;D letter would suffice. I also believe that this is not true of Sony.

Just to clarify, here's what this does NOT mean:
SHS has NOT recieved any notice from Sony.
SHS has NOT suddenly switched to an unliscenced-only group.

As this is my decision and not the groups, the forum is an inappropriate place to register any complaints you may have. I can be contacted at sairai_x@hotmail.com, or via the PM button in the forum.

We hope you've enjoyed this series so far, and that you'll continue to enjoy our other releases.

Ryllharu
Tue, 01-31-2006, 10:19 AM
I like how there are parallel storylines to the main one. It adds an aspect where Saya and Red Shield can be off in Russia tracking Diva (or trying to) while the Reporter and Mao, confirmed as a Yakuza Ojou, track the business end of it from France.

It should make it easier for the two stories to make a complete picture of what's been going on for the past 30-40 years since the first movie. As well as hopefully finally figuring out Saya's origin as a vampire.

Darknodin
Tue, 01-31-2006, 11:58 AM
Yea... I actually liked that episode, with the "detective work" style of things... pretty neat.
also, it has never been stated explicitly, in the movie or the show that she was a vampire no?

Ryllharu
Tue, 01-31-2006, 02:58 PM
The other David (at least I assumed it's a different one now, 30+ years) said:

"Don't ever piss her off again. As far as we know, she's only remaining original!"

That, coupled with the title of the movie, gives that impression. There is a final photo labeled [Vampire] of her from 1892 at the end of the movie, which coincides with her memories of a garden castle in the series (clothes are the same style as the photo I believe). As for the series, she also has tiny fangs (that you don't ever really get a good look at in the movie, but I think you can see them in the fire before seconds before she gets the sword; about 34 min in), got regular infusions of blood from Julia (in the first several eps), and there are other hints here and there.

It's never explicitly said, but it's implied implicitly a lot.

Munsu
Wed, 02-01-2006, 06:51 AM
After this episode, I love the Mao character...

I also found it awesome that when Mao and the reporter are talking in the dinner, the guy who was following the reporter passes infront of their table with the wine in his hand, and then you can see him drive off through the window... I found those little tidbits well done...

kooshi
Wed, 02-01-2006, 01:39 PM
I noticed the guy passing by them with the wine, but not the driving off part. Haha, that part cracked me up, especially after they showed the ransacked office.
Man, that girl has quite an obsession with Kai. I don't think there would be anybody at that age who would go that far.

el_boss
Wed, 02-01-2006, 02:11 PM
The reporter has the same voice-actor as Renji from Bleach. This episode was the first time I actually noticed this. The highlight of this episode was when he went to the school and approached the girls like a pedophile going "hey girls, I want to show you something".

Ryllharu
Wed, 02-01-2006, 03:41 PM
Mao is Ami Koshimizu of School Rumble (Tenma), Mai-Otome (Nina), and Eureka 7 (Anemone).

I recongized it in this eps right away from the imperious Yakuza Ojou tone that so resembles Nina Wang. I didn't even notice in the last eps though.

The two of them will probably be one of the most interesting side stories of a series I've seen. I was actually a little dissapointed the next eps goes back to Saya and company.

el_boss
Wed, 02-01-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by: Ryllharu
The two of them will probably be one of the most interesting side stories of a series I've seen. I was actually a little dissapointed the next eps goes back to Saya and company.
Let's hope the ratio doesn't stay the same. 14 Saya eps to every reporter guy ep.i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

masamuneehs
Wed, 02-01-2006, 05:37 PM
Well, at first I wasn't so into this episode. Lone wolf journalist with burning passion blah blah. Father's unfinished mystery, yadda yadda.

But there were a couple really well done aspects that really made me enjoy this episode in the end. Lewis (the fat, dark skinned guy tailing the reporter), or rather, Lewis' van, were placed in alot of the shots. And then seeing him walk by in teh restaurant, walking out to his car through the window, and the next minute he's gone. That was reall sorta nifty. Also, Mao-sama is freaking badass. A little misguided, and doesn't seem to have great sense in men (Kai? come on...) but who the hell else steals 50Mil Yen from the Yakuza, even if they are your family?

Also, that reporter had sooo many cigarettes in his ashtray! Holy lung cancer Batman! His father and that one guy whose diary the Red Shield people are always referencing are going to be connected, mark my words. Yeah, it will be sorta a shame to get back to Saya and crew. I like David, Says and Riku. But Haji is way too cliche and Kai really annoys me most of the time...

Oh, and the new Cheveliar, James, seems to be pretty cool (and well connected). The brothers are really representing in this show! First Lewis, now this James baddie. Two dark skinned (i can't say for sure that Lewis is black, but I'm assuming so) guys in the same show! Its an anime milestone!

Ryllharu
Wed, 02-01-2006, 07:57 PM
More importantly, they're not some sort of boxer, or loud, foul-mouthed, sex addict (Bob from Tenjou Tenge, etc.), or other random stereotype the Japanese impose on all foreigners. Both are quiet, well adjusted, and clearly very capable at whatever they do.

That's more of a milestone than the fact there's more than one.

snapcase
Thu, 02-02-2006, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by: masamuneehs


Originally posted by: t1no
Which is better Shinsen or Bakaozou?

And, it REALLY doesn't matter as this is the latest out of Shinsen (borrowed from the Blood + Licensed by Sony thread (http://forums.gotwoot.net/messageview.cfm?catid=68&amp;threadid=17310&amp;enterthrea d=y), posted by nests)

Shinsen-subs has decided to stop subbing Blood+

quote:
Blood+ Dropped posted by Kyougokudou on Tue Jan 24 22:57:16 2006

Contrary to posts from elsewhere on the forums, Shinsen-subs has decided to drop Blood+.

This is solely my decision as translator of the series. A majority of the rest of the group opposes it, but I feel that Sony is unlikely to display the same restraint as Funimation or Bandai, and that exposing myself, my family, and the rest of the Blood+ team to legal risk is foolishness. For all the talk of Funi's "high-handedness", none of us were sued, and indeed in the entire history of fansubbing, nobody has been. I believe that this is because the anime companies that we know and love are all closely involved with the community, and have far too much to lose through legal methods when a simple C&amp;D letter would suffice. I also believe that this is not true of Sony.

Just to clarify, here's what this does NOT mean:
SHS has NOT recieved any notice from Sony.
SHS has NOT suddenly switched to an unliscenced-only group.

As this is my decision and not the groups, the forum is an inappropriate place to register any complaints you may have. I can be contacted at sairai_x@hotmail.com, or via the PM button in the forum.

We hope you've enjoyed this series so far, and that you'll continue to enjoy our other releases.


They are going to continue the series. The person who made all those posts about dropping a bunch of series kinda did so on his own... and now he is no longer with the group. Along with Blood+ they will continue to sub the other 3 of the total 4 series that were reported as dropped. So, if you preferred SHS over Bakakozou, you can still get it from them. (they haven't released ep15 yet though)

masamuneehs
Thu, 02-02-2006, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by: snapcase


Originally posted by: masamuneehs


Originally posted by: t1no
Which is better Shinsen or Bakaozou?

And, it REALLY doesn't matter as this is the latest out of Shinsen (borrowed from the Blood + Licensed by Sony thread (http://forums.gotwoot.net/messageview.cfm?catid=68&amp;threadid=17310&amp;enterthrea d=y), posted by nests)

Shinsen-subs has decided to stop subbing Blood+

quote:
Blood+ Dropped posted by Kyougokudou on Tue Jan 24 22:57:16 2006

Contrary to posts from elsewhere on the forums, Shinsen-subs has decided to drop Blood+.

This is solely my decision as translator of the series. A majority of the rest of the group opposes it, but I feel that Sony is unlikely to display the same restraint as Funimation or Bandai, and that exposing myself, my family, and the rest of the Blood+ team to legal risk is foolishness. For all the talk of Funi's "high-handedness", none of us were sued, and indeed in the entire history of fansubbing, nobody has been. I believe that this is because the anime companies that we know and love are all closely involved with the community, and have far too much to lose through legal methods when a simple C&amp;D letter would suffice. I also believe that this is not true of Sony.

Just to clarify, here's what this does NOT mean:
SHS has NOT recieved any notice from Sony.
SHS has NOT suddenly switched to an unliscenced-only group.

As this is my decision and not the groups, the forum is an inappropriate place to register any complaints you may have. I can be contacted at sairai_x@hotmail.com, or via the PM button in the forum.

We hope you've enjoyed this series so far, and that you'll continue to enjoy our other releases.


They are going to continue the series. The person who made all those posts about dropping a bunch of series kinda did so on his own... and now he is no longer with the group. Along with Blood+ they will continue to sub the other 3 of the total 4 series that were reported as dropped. So, if you preferred SHS over Bakakozou, you can still get it from them. (they haven't released ep15 yet though)

ripped from the episode 15 thread. figured news like this would be read here...

burnout
Thu, 02-02-2006, 09:46 PM
finally i was waiting my ass of here

thnx m8 for the link

darkmetal505
Thu, 02-02-2006, 10:39 PM
man kai's old girlfriend is crazy... and rich.

Kyuuzou
Tue, 02-07-2006, 04:47 PM
Here's episode 16 of Blood+ by Bakakozou........http://dreamorabt.com/download...74A9BC0%5D.avi.torrent (http://dreamorabt.com/download.php?id=396&amp;name=%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_16_%5BA74A9BC0%5D.avi.torrent)

Munsu
Tue, 02-07-2006, 06:16 PM
I wonder when/how Lewis caught up with the other guys in the group in Russia, since he was left behind taking care of the reporter if not mistaken...

darkmetal505
Tue, 02-07-2006, 08:19 PM
dont know, but it seems like Liza is a Chiro, maybe even a Chevalier for Diva sent by the badguys to watch Saya. For a second I thought I was going to get to see Haji's true form.

Munsu
Tue, 02-07-2006, 08:26 PM
I actually think that Liza is the oldwoman that somehow got Liza's appearance... I'm pretty sure that the woman thrown off the train was Liza... Also if you notice, the current Liza has the ring that the old woman was wearing...

darkmetal505
Tue, 02-07-2006, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
I actually think that Liza is the oldwoman that somehow got Liza's appearance... I'm pretty sure that the woman thrown off the train was Liza... Also if you notice, the current Liza has the ring that the old woman was wearing...

true, I forgot about that. I wonder if the ring and the shiny objects hold any power.

Death13a
Tue, 02-07-2006, 09:07 PM
Liza was biten and around 11:56 you can see a huge scar on her back and that probebly where old woman came out as Liza

Ryllharu
Tue, 02-07-2006, 10:55 PM
Liza's original jewelry was to help her identify with the other Red Shield members (most of them have some blood red jewelry or other article). I think the blue ring was really to help the audience realize the old woman had become Liza after she killed her. Other than that, the obvious blue/red difference clearly defines that they are on opposite sides. I don't think we'll be seeing too much more in the way of the blue jewelry (I very well could be wrong, but I really don't think those parallels are necessary).

Also, fake Liza's observation that Saya's blood was all over the sword shouldn't have been a shock to their side. Karl and the other Chevalier's sure seemed to be well aware of it.

Going with it anyway, more than anything now, I believe that Diva is a 'real' vampire just like Saya. We know that 'Diva' is a component in the cocktail that turns people into Chiro's. So the obvious conclusion is that Diva's blood turns them into Chiro's and Saya's ends the influence of Diva's blood. Assuming that Chiro's form from a diluted form of Diva's blood, maybe a person becomes a Chevalier when they take a pure hit of Diva's blood. On the same token, Saya's blood didn't seem to do too much to Karl, so I may be wrong on some aspect of this.

el_boss
Wed, 02-08-2006, 09:04 AM
Karl survived because he ripped the infected limb off after Saya's attack.

And Liza had it coming, she didn't kiss Haji in the beginning of the episode.

Darknodin
Wed, 02-08-2006, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by: el_boss


And Liza had it coming, she didn't kiss Haji in the beginning of the episode.

haha... true! probably the old woman is a pawn of Haji sent for retaliation... that's why she jumped after Haji!

masamuneehs
Wed, 02-08-2006, 01:25 PM
Dude, Lewis is THE PIMP! A pimp who only accepts payments in chocolate! Honestly, I thought that shit was absolutley hilarious.

Liza got killed off pretty quick... But that old woman is in her body now. David: "No Chiroptera in Russia since 1918." Old woman: "To visit my great-grandchild who has just been born." Was that a reference to Diva, to Saya? Or to something yet to come?

Decent episode. Kai needs to get some firepower. Riku is the most perfect little kid ever, adorable. Animation was really beautiful in this episode.

Ryllharu
Wed, 02-08-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by: el_boss
Karl survived because he ripped the infected limb off after Saya's attack.
Ah, totally forgot about that. I should've listened to my own advice and rewatched that eps.

Well, in that case, Diva's blood must be what makes Chiro's and Chevaliers, while Saya's blood kills them.

darkmetal505
Wed, 02-08-2006, 09:35 PM
so is haji made from saya's blood?

Munsu
Thu, 02-09-2006, 08:06 PM
If one would've to guess, I guess yes... But we don't know the specifics of what these Chevaliers are really...

Arzen
Fri, 02-10-2006, 12:12 AM
The Chinese subs sites seem much faster in turning out the episodes. So far they've released ep 17.
Ep 16 is one cool flick. Not because they're freezing their butts in the Siberian Express but the fighting scenes are worth waiting for.
I haven't read the rest of the BLOOD+ posts in this forum but here's the official link to watch trailers of the episodes.
Blood plus Trailers- CLICK HERE (http://mbs.jp/blood/index2.html) Hope it helps~
And I dislike Kai. Wish his yakuza girlfriend could just deliver him back to Okinawa and into oblivion. They could do better killing him off and give the other characters more airtime.

i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif Thirsty

Ryllharu
Sun, 02-12-2006, 01:07 AM
Eps 17 by Bakakozou..

Eps 17 (http://www.dreamorabt.com/download.php?id=416&amp;name=%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_17_%5B6CD03801%5D.avi.torrent)

Is it just me, or does it feel like we missed an eps or two while watching this one?

A flashback. I can't really guess when it happened though. More really interesting things introduced. More and more I'm viewing Diva as a twin to Saya, possibly a sister even. She must be hiberating or something though, that would explain how they keep lugging her around in a shipping container.


I still don't see the forum of Blood+ that was supposed to get restored, in the meantime I'll make this the official Discussion thread

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Munsu
Sun, 02-12-2006, 10:16 AM
Yeah, I have no clue on what happened in this episode either... I guess it was a flashback also...

I wonder what the promise was also...

Darknodin
Sun, 02-12-2006, 02:38 PM
not really that confusing for me... maybe the first seconds, until they stated that it was set in 1918-20...
and Rasputin was a lil girl! haha... and I guess he's probably a woman in her 30s now uh?
but i'm confused, Saya went to sleep in 1920... then woke up in the 70s, slaughtered a bunch of people then went back to sleep or... Diva woke up in the 70s and Saya has her memories? mmm the way they were talking before is as if it really was Saya that did this... well we'll see

masamuneehs
Sun, 02-12-2006, 03:52 PM
At first I was really confused. I was like "Where's Riku?" and "Why is Hagi so damn smily/lovey-dovey?" Then I figured it out it was a flashback. It was pretty obvious that it was set in Russia around the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, I don't know what the confusion's all about. It figures that they'd leave out the most important part of the promise.

And this was an awesome episode! We finally got to see the other side of Hagi and Saya. What a world of difference between then and now!

I did not see that plot twist coming. There was some insanely bloody parts in this episode, violent as hell. And the fight at the end was beautiful! Really well done. Great Brother Ansell... I wonder if he is still around too, or if he is one of the Chevalier who died...



Originally posted by: Darknodin
and Rasputin was a lil girl! haha... and I guess he's probably a woman in her 30s now uh?

Dude, Rasputin got killed. Didn't you see her/him crystalize?

Diva and Saya. Hmm, well they both went to sleep around the same time. Diva's awakening in the modern day is close to Saya's "awakening" (not her coming out of the tomb three years ago, but Hagi's kissing her and re-awakening the old blood in her). Saya's blood really does counter-act against the Chiroptera that come from Diva. I'm sensing a "vampire twin" thing in as the explanation.

Darknodin
Sun, 02-12-2006, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by: masamuneehs




Originally posted by: Darknodin
and Rasputin was a lil girl! haha... and I guess he's probably a woman in her 30s now uh?

Dude, Rasputin got killed. Didn't you see her/him crystalize?

Diva and Saya. Hmm, well they both went to sleep around the same time. Diva's awakening in the modern day is close to Saya's "awakening" (not her coming out of the tomb three years ago, but Hagi's kissing her and re-awakening the old blood in her). Saya's blood really does counter-act against the Chiroptera that come from Diva. I'm sensing a "vampire twin" thing in as the explanation.

yea I know that... but i'm sure that the old woman in the show has something to do with Grigori. maybe it was the father of the girl, or maybe rasputin's consciousness had time to transfer when she killed the old woman. I dunno. i have to check, but it seems that it wasn't a lil' girl looking figure that attacked Haji...

masamuneehs
Sun, 02-12-2006, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by: Darknodin


Originally posted by: masamuneehs

Dude, Rasputin got killed. Didn't you see her/him crystalize?


yea I know that... but i'm sure that the old woman in the show has something to do with Grigori. maybe it was the father of the girl, or maybe rasputin's consciousness had time to transfer when she killed the old woman. I dunno. i have to check, but it seems that it wasn't a lil' girl looking figure that attacked Haji...

Checked. Saya is in the kitchen talking with Sonya, Hagi comes in half-naked cuz their clothes are still wet probably. He leaves, Saya talks to Sonya. Goes to a shot of the old woman watching from near the house outside. Commercial break.

The next scene is Haji finding the letter from Grigori in Sonya's father's room. He is fully clothed, which means its been at least a little while since the kitchen scene. He hears a sound, through the window sees what looks like the old woman walking away. He goes after her.

Hagi is running through the woods, the woman's figure is blurred in the distance. Hagi thinks "Is that Grigori?". He gets to a large clearing, the woman has vanished. Hagi looks around. From out of nowhere in the sky a huge projectile comes, and Hagi gets pwned. We never see the attacker.

But later on that old woman appears again. She attacks Sonya with the hatchet, yells at Saya. Then she gets killed, really easily too I might add.

So I think the old woman who attacked Sonya is the same as the one from the town. But whoever was outside the house at night is something different. Her face looks very serious and dangerous when she is looking at it before the break. We only see the back and side of the old woman AFTER the commercial break, when Hagi gets pwned.

I really didn't think about it. I assume Sonya was in the room with Saya. Besides, during the fight Sonya never uses any kind of projectile weapon, which is what was used on Hagi. I think we'll find out later when the old woman from the modern day reappears.

Kraco
Sun, 02-12-2006, 07:36 PM
If the old woman Hagi followed to the ambush is the same who took Liza's shape in present time, wouldn't Hagi have suspected something, when they first time met her at the station? Or is he just too silent to utter any speculations? Or maybe he had forgotten. It's a long time, after all... And on the other hand the old woman might have been also somebody else's skin. Who knows what the original human looked like.

It was nice to catch up with this series during this weekend. Not a wasted effort, although it wasn't nice to suddenly realise I had reached the most recent episode...

darkmetal505
Mon, 02-13-2006, 06:08 PM
I guess Saya has been hunting Diva for quite a while now. The large projectile weapon thrown at Hagi could have been a huge tree bark by Grigori/Sonya.

Mecha-Fan
Mon, 02-13-2006, 09:36 PM
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Darknodin
Sat, 02-18-2006, 04:59 PM
so... not sure if i should post this here but Shinsen released 4 episodes of Blood, including a new one

Episode 15 (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_15_%5B2EA36A95%5D.avi.torrent)
Episode 16 (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_17_%5BF99E9B33%5D.avi.torrent)
Episode 17 (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_17_%5BF99E9B33%5D.avi.torrent)
Episode 18 (http://shinsen.b33r.net/%5BShinsen-Subs%5D_Blood%2B_18_%5B5E6CFEB2%5D.avi.torrent)

have fun

Yukimura
Sat, 02-18-2006, 06:44 PM
I think this might have been in the destroyed thread but, are either Shinsen or Bakakozu much more accurate than each other or are the differances just personal preferance?

darkmetal505
Sat, 02-18-2006, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by: Yukimura
I think this might have been in the destroyed thread but, are either Shinsen or Bakakozu much more accurate than each other or are the differances just personal preferance?

They are both around the same level. Shinsen released faster, but Bakakozu was better quailty.

It seems Shinsen has released ep 18. Does that mean that they are continuing?

burnout
Sat, 02-18-2006, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by: darkmetal505
I guess Saya has been hunting Diva for quite a while now. The large projectile weapon thrown at Hagi could have been a huge tree bark by Grigori/Sonya.

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your right it was a tree

the girl trow it at hagi coz she wanted to kill him (that will never work btw)

if you looked at the girls expresion when hagi appeard you could see a slight supriced look

but thats only what ive seen so far i still need to look at it frame by frame

Darknodin
Sat, 02-18-2006, 11:52 PM
episode 18 was nice... apparently the Saya-less episodes have a pretty good intrigue plot. it wasn't as good as the photographer one but it was nice.

darkmetal505
Mon, 02-20-2006, 02:03 PM
well everything is coming together. Now we definitely know that the Chiros are made from Diva's blood who had a "unique blood type". Makes me wanna see her even more.

masamuneehs
Mon, 02-20-2006, 04:12 PM
Well I havent watched the next episode of Blood+ yet, but as far as the whole "the original topic is gone" mystery...
The Original Blood+ topic (http://forums.gotwoot.net/messageview.cfm?catid=5&amp;threadid=16476&amp;highlight_k ey=y&amp;keyword1=blood)
Silly moderators... Even Scooby Doo could have solved this one.


I wasn't looking for the original topic, I was looking for the forum that was supposedly going to be restored. The decision in making this the official thread was based on this thread having the most recent discussions, so it really would make little sense to use a thread (the original one) that has outdated discussion.

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Munsu
Thu, 02-23-2006, 08:51 AM
Episode 19 is out by Bakakozou

http://www.dreamorabt.com/down...61643CB%5D.avi.torrent (http://www.dreamorabt.com/download.php?id=465&amp;name=%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_19_%5B261643CB%5D.avi.torrent)

Kraco
Thu, 02-23-2006, 12:04 PM
I didn't like this episode one bit. Very cheap plot development (although not uncommon in anime). I don't know why the anime characters always rather listen to their enemies than their friends. First the transvestite chevalier wounds badly Saya's friend, and then Saya believes everything the man-bitch says. Yeah, right.

They should have invented a bit more believable plot twist... Or perhaps Saya didn't inherit only a deadly blood but also a mind of no integrity and little wits.

Darknodin
Thu, 02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
Why wouldn't Saya believe her. She knew the others were withholding information from her, they even told her that. From her point of view, David seemed to know what Diva was (really, I thought he knew since the beginning, though i was wrong). Deep down she knew that she wasn't human. So basically, the vampire just confirmed several things she knew and added the fact that Diva was her little sister (which is probably true). Also, there is the fact that when someone holds such power over another person (like it seemed that she could kill or at least defeat Saya rather easily), you're more enclined to believe that person. Personally, I do think this is cliched, but it worked well enough.
Well, I liked this episode. there's the fact that several things were confirmed, the addition of a new vampire faction and the fact that we'll probably see Diva next ep.

Kraco
Thu, 02-23-2006, 04:47 PM
She knew perfectly well she's not human, so that shouldn't have been any shock. And whether Diva is her sister is questionable, or a matter of definition. And the chevalier certainly didn't give any proof she is her sister, so why would she believe her (or him, whatever) and label David a liar because he didn't say anything. Well, it's irrelevant whether she believes her or not, but what matters is that she stopped trying to fight her. When she was standing right behind Saya, with her hands around Saya's neck, it would have been a nice position and chance to use what was left of her sword. But she rather listened to her enemy.

And so Saya left her sword behind and hit the road. Maybe to go and meet her sister and the rest of the jolly group whom she has been fighting against all the time. Although I wouldn't be disappointed if she was killed right away if she goes there, I still have a slight hope she actually isn't going anywhere, but rather just sulks in some corner until Kai finds her.

masamuneehs
Sun, 02-26-2006, 08:14 AM
Just watched episode 18, a pretty meh episode I thought.

How fucking stupid are Saya and Hagi? I thought it was fairly obvious from the fight on the train that Julia was a Chiroptera (or some other kind of vamp). But now theyre acting like they have no idea whats going on Makes no goddamn sense...

darkmetal505
Wed, 03-01-2006, 03:28 PM
we can guess they are sisters because they are both freakishly abnormal. Hagi was originally intended to guard Diva. Man, the youngest sibling always gets the pampering. What is up with these Schiffs?

Munsu
Wed, 03-01-2006, 03:36 PM
Was he supposed to guard Diva? I don't remember getting that notion.

darkmetal505
Wed, 03-01-2006, 03:50 PM
Well it seems like the Chevaliers are Diva's protectors. The male/female one said that Hagi was a fallen Chevalier, so im assuming his original task was to gaurd Diva. I might be wrong.

Kraco
Wed, 03-01-2006, 05:14 PM
Hagi would then be un Chevalier noir... It makes sense people who are called knights would guard the princess. However, a sister of a princess is a princess as well, so Hagi is still as much a knight as the rest of the bunch. By definition. Maybe he did guard Diva in the past, but maybe not. He might have guarded the princess of death instead, always.

masamuneehs
Wed, 03-01-2006, 06:39 PM
episode 19 was a pretty big one. I'm starting to really wonder about Hagi. Those three kids (the Schiff) seemed afraid of him (or were they actually afraid of the Chevalier in Elizabeth's body?) but Hagi has been getting pwned in so many episodes recently. It's like he can't take on other Chevaliers at all. Sorta a let down.

Five Chevalier: Hagi, Solomon, Phantom (Karl), the black military guy (forget his name) and the one in Elizabeth's body. I think we have all of them accounted for... unless they recruited a new member after Hagi left.

If Saya was the older sister it seems like all the Chevalier should be on her side. But she only has Hagi (who clearly follows her out of love) which makes me think something happened a long time ago between Saya and Diva, some huge disagreement or power struggle. Saya is supposed to kill Diva, but this Chevalier seemed to be acting under orders to NOT kill Saya (same during the fight with Karl, he just wanted to awaken her powers) so it seems Diva doesn't want to kill Saya....

Next episode hopefully explains alot. Candy-man is back (what the hell is his role anyway? He seems like just another pawn to me...) along with Solomon. Hopefully Diva makes an appearance in the next episode as well...

Munsu
Wed, 03-01-2006, 06:40 PM
Yeah, it's fine that he's a Chevalier... But he could've always been Saya's Chevalier.

masamuneehs
Wed, 03-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by: Budweineken
Yeah, it's fine that he's a Chevalier... But he could've always been Saya's Chevalier.

but then why would there be 5 Chevalier, especially 3 (maybe 4) all on one side? Either there's a huge royal-vampire family thing going on (and we just don't know about it yet) or the Chevalier are supposed to protect the head of the family (vampire overlord). Seems to me that Saya quit/got ousted by Diva somewhere down the line and Hagi went with her.

and I wonder what kind of monster Saya and Diva's mother must have been....

Munsu
Thu, 03-09-2006, 01:01 AM
Episode 20 is out

http://weedy.1.vg:8394/torrent...c52a2a6f8490ed0420cbb0 (http://weedy.1.vg:8394/torrents/%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_20_%5B80B48FD6%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=40be55a14 8dc4aa724c52a2a6f8490ed0420cbb0)

darkmetal505
Fri, 03-10-2006, 01:29 AM
watched 20. Bud might be right, they said Hagi left with Saya, but he also had something to do with the Divas. The Chevalier sure are a happy group, it confuses me.

Munsu
Fri, 03-10-2006, 01:37 AM
I find it interesting how Saya's chevalier is to become Diva's groom while Diva's chevalier's are meant for Saya...

Kraco
Fri, 03-10-2006, 03:21 AM
Somehow I don't think Hagi would make a very agreeable groom for Diva, if Saya was indeed killed...

Who were the fast dudes in this episode? They had the vampiric super speed, but apparently they were lacking information (or simply wits), as they seemed to lost to the chevalier so easily, yet they obviously thought they could beat the dude. Were they some prototype soldiers created by the Red Chield?

darkshadow
Fri, 03-17-2006, 11:47 AM
blood+21 was off the hook, thats all i can say, damn

ep 21 by bakakozou:
http://weedy.1.vg:8396/torrents/%5BBakakozou%5D_Blood%2B_-_21_%5BD6E9F539%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=d9f6c6568 d771df3a8fc8971c81c193ec0e5422c

and masa, the 5th chevalier is nathan, not hagi
solomon, karl, james, nathan, amchel

also, hagi seems much weaker then amchel + he doesnt seem to have that "red eye(chiropteran)" mode like solomon, ( although he rox in ep 21)

NeoBear
Fri, 03-17-2006, 09:33 PM
kinda odd how all of a sudden hagi was like fucking superman, and how much longer is saya gonna be on this emo trip its been 21 eps now. i was hopeing she would be bad ass like the one in the oav oh well good eps

darkshadow
Fri, 03-17-2006, 09:44 PM
WELL in the preview saya says, hagi i remember everything now, so im geussing she's back to normal in ep22, so i think we'll the fighting machine saya as she is in the 1st OP from now on :), and also i think hagi is just plain badass, stronger then solomon normal ( dont know about the red eyes mode, but prolly not), stronger then karl( the seemed equal but i think hagi was a bit stronger), but much much weaker then amchel.

if it wasnt for that gee guy figuring out hagi's plans, hagi wouldve trashed all of them, while solomon got his arm cut off by 2 of them, and needed to go chiropteran to kill em, so hagi is definitly stronger then solomon's normal form, i think its solomon, karl, hagi, nathan or james and then amchel as strongest, this would mean that either saya has some badass super form, or hagi has it, otherwise amchel is impossible to defeat

Ryllharu
Sat, 03-18-2006, 12:49 AM
From what I'm gathering from the Chevalier conversation, there's a fairly clear evolutionary divergence with all the vampires. Here's a quick summary of what we've got so far.

First of all, I'm almost positive Amchel was lying to Saya about her being a chiropteran. It's more to throw her off and mess her up (as it clearly has over the last few eps) so he will find an easier time killing her, since that's obviously his goal.

-There's the fake people/freak/chiro babies from Vietnam at the very bottom, but they don't seem to follow other than genetic mods of regular chiropterans, so we can ignore them.

-At the bottom we have the basic chiropterans. The ones we saw from the original movie and continued here. Batwings, horsefaces, claws, the whole monster form. Weak, and easy to stop for humans, cake for Saya to kill.

-Next we have these new ones. They are the standard vampire-myth vamps you've heard about since you first heard of Dracula. Feed off humans just to live another day, and burn up in the sun. They've mentioned they're cursed and need better than Chevalier blood to fix themselves. Not much else to say.

-Then we have the Chevaliers. We don't know too much about them, other than they appear to be super powered Chiropterans who act as servants to Diva and Saya. The ones on Diva's side clearly have their own little agenda, and are of varying degrees of super power, and from what I assume have unique "war forms." They are less than perfect though, but very very close to it.

-At the top we have the "true vampires." I call them that only because of the comments in the movie, ones I've mentioned multiple times before in this thread. This level consists of just two (as far as we know), Saya and Diva (whom I'm guessing are twins?). The look normal, don't need to transform, and all other types of vampries come from them in some way. Diva creates, Saya destroys. The have no weaknesses at all, and are very powerful. Diva's already displayed some power while asleep with the song, and the leaf on her hair shrivveling and dying is a pretty good indication of power. Saya is strong as well, but since her exploits in Vietnam has been lacking somewhat in the motivation department. We all know how good she really is, otherwise Amchel shouldn't have any reason at all to be afraid of her.

It looks like we'll find out most of the story in the next eps.

Yukimura
Sat, 03-18-2006, 04:03 AM
From what Solomon was talking to himself about, it seels Amschel made these 'Nosferatu' Chiropterans in the lab. It might explain why they felt inferior, they're copies. They seem to only be strong and fast, lacking most of the skills that make Chevaliers and Saya so dangerous. And someone had to make those wepons for them.

Question: Where are Haji and Saya going? Are they still in Russia or are they near where Kai's gf and the reporter are?

Ryllharu
Sat, 03-18-2006, 07:39 AM
They are in France near the Chateau. That's why they got attacked by the "Schiff" (I think that's what they were called). They are very close to where the reporter and the Ojou are. From what we know from the intersperced flashbacks, that's where Saya's life as a vampire began.

There was a bit of a jump, Saya and Hagi traveled by land to france, while the rest flew by helicopter to the Red Sheild Headquarters.

masamuneehs
Sat, 03-18-2006, 08:15 AM
I had totally forgotten about the reporter and the Yakuza daughter. So when that scene started I was like, 'who the fuck are these people?' then it came back to me and i was like 'oh yeah, they're the ones more entertaining than the main characters!' :rolleyes:

Kai's girl is HAWT! He should have at least left on better terms with her. If it wasn't an anime she'd be boinking some other dude right now while he goes chasing after bats (Chiroptera, i incidentally found out recently, is part of the scientific name for bats). That day-dream was ROFL funny. Those two crack me up

Hagi has got to get a better weapon. That coffin is way too unwieldy...

Schiff were pretty good. But 'gee' do they have a rough deal...

darkmetal505
Sat, 03-18-2006, 02:58 PM
Was it Saya that killed everyone before the fire? It looked like her. I would like to know how the Schiff originated, and it seems like they have some sort of disease that only Saya or Diva's blood can cure.

Ryllharu
Sat, 03-18-2006, 03:10 PM
I think Saya and Diva are more than just sisters, I think they are twins. It looked a lot like Saya, but something seemed...off. That's why I think it was Diva rather than Saya. The haircut seemed closer to the one Diva had as she was laying on the ground in the Chevalier Atrium than Saya's classic straight hair (the long versions from the film and Vietnam).

That image was also from after the fire, which occured in the flashback the old man was talking about, but yes, it seems likely that either Diva or her servants killed off everyone, either that or Saya went berserk when she was turned/awakened.

The next eps should answer that question definitively.

Kraco
Sat, 03-18-2006, 03:35 PM
There was a girl with a blue rose present at the site after the killing / fire, but it doesn't still mean the girl did the deed. Of course it would have been natural if the residents were vampires. Well, I just thought to point this out...

Munsu
Sat, 03-18-2006, 06:20 PM
Saya has been useless the last couple of episodes, I wonder why Hagi even bothered giving her his dagger, it wouldn't have made any difference.

This episode was great though, great animation. Especially when they first started being attacked in the bridge, and Hagi picks up Saya jumping in the air while dodging every attack, it was superbly done.

But man, what a shitty name Gee is, I bet it really is "G."... that would make more sense.

I wonder how many times Hagi is going to keep getting fucked up like this, he keeps getting the short end of the stick.

Nai
Sat, 03-18-2006, 09:28 PM
Awesome episode. Tons of actions, tons of new characters introduced and simply splendid visuals. It also seems like Saya will finally get her act together in the next episode. Excellent.

Oh, and I'm totally in love with the Schiff after this episode. Especially Moses. He even surpasses Solomon in sheer sexiness.

But man, what a shitty name Gee is, I bet it really is "G."... that would make more sense.

Ditto. Wasn't it first subbed as "Geez" too?

But yeah, G seems MUCH more likely.

complich8
Sun, 03-19-2006, 12:00 AM
But man, what a shitty name Gee is, I bet it really is "G."... that would make more sense.

Probably "Guy" actually. They're in France. "Guy" (pronounced as it was in the episode) is not a particularly uncommon name in those parts.

Interesting that they've got 'Dismas" and "Gestas" (the guys crucified with Christ) as the two that got killed, and also have Moses in the Schiff (all pretty unusual names), and then they've got common names like Irene and Guy too.

I wonder if there's a system I'm not picking up yet...

darkshadow
Sun, 03-19-2006, 09:08 PM
there is also one called karman i think, i did a quick search:
http://aerodyn.org/People/vonKarman.html

darkmetal505
Sun, 03-19-2006, 11:06 PM
there is also one called karman i think, i did a quick search:
http://aerodyn.org/People/vonKarman.html

Hmm, interesting. This guy was big on aerydynamics, seems to have contributed alot. Although, I see no correlation. Maybe they just chose a random name.

kooshi
Mon, 03-20-2006, 01:47 AM
Is it just me or is Blood+ slowly becoming.... uninteresting? The first few episodes were great, then it fell until Saya lost herself in Vietnam. After that, it's been a little boring up until episode 20 since that's the last time I watched Blood+.
Regardless, I'm still going to be watching this series (even downloading 21).

Kraco
Mon, 03-20-2006, 02:22 AM
Is it just me or is Blood+ slowly becoming.... uninteresting?

It's a hard thing to balance between action and a deep plot. Now, I have to admit Blood+ hasn't succeeded perfectly in doing that. But I suppose it does earn some credit by not just filling all the eps with simple minded monster slashing, even though that's what the series seemed to be. Saya's current condition is unfortunately an anime tradition, has probably been all the way from Evangelion, if it's not even older than that. Just gotta accept that...

Munsu
Mon, 03-20-2006, 06:09 AM
Is it just me or is Blood+ slowly becoming.... uninteresting? The first few episodes were great, then it fell until Saya lost herself in Vietnam. After that, it's been a little boring up until episode 20 since that's the last time I watched Blood+.
Regardless, I'm still going to be watching this series (even downloading 21).
It's just you...

The anime has delivered in many levels...

Great action, solid plot, great atmosphere, awesome characters... Nothing uninteresting here.