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Strike Freedom
Wed, 10-05-2005, 11:54 AM
In my opinion, as much as I love almost all the Gundam series, the best of the best would have to be the Zeta Gundam since it was that series that got me hooked on Gundam in general (Seed would follow in a close 2nd place). However, SEED had me hooked all the way through when I first saw it. It was like a drug (if any of u remember ur similar experience), I needed more and more and more. The action was great, the suspense had me on my seat. The whole series was just done right (except explanations but I didn't care since the series had me wanting more action and suspense). So, Ya, SEED gets my vote!

ChaosK
Wed, 10-05-2005, 12:23 PM
uhh is gundam G the same as G gundam?

Madell
Wed, 10-05-2005, 01:04 PM
Zeta Gunam, it just pwned all

PSJ
Wed, 10-05-2005, 02:40 PM
From what i have seen i have to vote SEED. G gundam is close though and so is Zeta however i haven't seen all of it.

Terracosmo
Wed, 10-05-2005, 03:43 PM
Seed of course. And it would be foolish to believe otherwise, making a poll in a forum where everyone are AU freaks (with few exceptions).

So yeah, for AU, Seed. After that G, then X, then Wing.

For UC, it's generally believed to be Z, but I haven't watched all of that so I'll say 0079 then War in the pocket. (0080)

masamuneehs
Wed, 10-05-2005, 03:55 PM
I'm going with the original Mobile Suit Gundam series. I believe it's the best because it's where all the others came from. SEED had lots of elements in it that really reminded me of MSG :
(Earth finally developing an MS late into the war along with a Whiteface knockoff, the ArchAngel)
(a civilian happening to stumble upon the Gundam and becoming its pilot because noone else around was qualified)
(that same civilian turning going through all the growing pains of war and turning into one of the best fighters ever, later revealed to be genetically predisposed to be an elite soldier)
(there are desert arcs in both...granted this is a distant connection)
(the Goufs, the Earth developing models off the Gundam/Strike later in the series GMs/Daggers)
(the Whiteface/ArchAngel being almost totally on its own for numerous episodes)
(a masked villain)

SEED was great because the animation really brought alot of excitement and the battles and character development were engrossing, but I'll give the credit where it's due, to the originator of the whole series.

After MSG I'd put Seed, then Zeta, then Wing (got me into anime in general), then G. Also thought 8th MS Team was great, tho not a full series IMO

PSJ
Wed, 10-05-2005, 03:55 PM
0080 is amazing, may be even better than Zeta. It had a diffrent feel to it than other gundam shows you got to follow a grunt pilot and a kid instead of a flashy spaceship with the latest prototype models. If Zeta has any flaw then it would be all those god damn mobile armors that turns into mobile suits. There are just to many.

Terracosmo
Wed, 10-05-2005, 04:26 PM
Whitebase Masemune, White-base- i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

Nai
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:10 PM
SEED. The beginning was just so explosive and the show had me from the very start. Never let me down.

... And SEED had Miguel. Fuck you Kira for killing off such an awesome looking character. He's like the male version of Cagalli ( ... in looks only, of course ), with TM's voice. Can it get better?

Phoenix20578
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:14 PM
In order:

EDIT:
G Gundam
Gundam SEED
Gundam X
Gundam 0083
Gundam Wing

Terracosmo
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:31 PM
You should delete Wing from the poll, nobody would be stupid enough to pick th--

oh hello thar Phoenix

Rik
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:34 PM
I like Gundam Wing the most, mostly because it has the best Gundam designs of all the others.

Phoenix20578
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:34 PM
Screw you Terra. I dont care what anyone says, Wing had the best gundam designs. G Gundam had
the best fights, and UC had the best story.

PSJ
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:38 PM
The Endless waltz gundam designs are nice, the regular wing designs are nothing special, stop living in your dream world. Wing blows.

Terracosmo
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:38 PM
Okay, so the both of you find the Gundam designs to be the most important aspect of the shows you like. Well, that's an interesting take on it.

Edit: I love Wing Zero
Edit2: but only the EW version
Edit3: cuz it had real wings and the best design

DDBen
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:41 PM
For me it was definatly Seed. Above all the rest I simply enjoyed it the most its music, characters, mecha and evverything else just draws you into it and never lets go.

As for the rest I enjoyed Gundam X the most out of the others listes. Given I have not seen Z, C, ZZ or all of Mobile Suit Gundam as Toonami pulled it due to 9/11. Given what I did see of MSG I didn't love mostly due to the wooden voice acting and horrible animation. After X I would have to go with wing... It was mindless but I loved the Gundam and it was the series that first made me want to start looking up the past ones. 0083 and 0090 were both decent but there simply wasn't enough of them to really bring me in. The same thing can be said for the F91 movie and the 8th ms squad. In the bottom of my listings you have G Gundam which frankly I just hated I know it was suppose to be sort of a paredy but everything about it was just bad to me. Finnally on the absolute bottom of the barrel is SD gundam which I couldn't manage to watch 5 minutes of without having the urge to kill someone.

Terracosmo
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:44 PM
G Gundam wasn't supposed to be a parody. It was just a different take on Gundam, which was the original reason for the AU to exist in the first place.

Phoenix20578
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:48 PM
OK, Wing did suck (mostly because of Relena), and the only reason I like it is because of Wing Zero
Custum. There, I said it.

@DDBen: I really liked G Gundam. It had the best fights out of all the Gundam series. Also, SD shouldn't
count as a Gundam series.

SFreedomZGMFx20a
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:52 PM
Gundam SEED. No need to ask.

AtHRunOwNZaLL
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:55 PM
gundam seed destiny because they started out with a great storyline with the focus only on athrun and the minerva crew and they had shinn, but then after they started giving kira more screentime than athrun and shinn combined(i know i'm exaggerating a little too much but you gotta admit it does feel like it) then it started going downhill for me, but i say it's still a great series and the gundam designs were good, especially saviour and destiny

Terracosmo
Wed, 10-05-2005, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by: Phoenix20578
OK, Wing did suck (mostly because of Relena), and the only reason I like it is because of Wing Zero
Custum. There, I said it.

So you think Wing sucked yet it's the best Gundam series? :S

Well anyway I agree... 95% of the suckage is Relena, the other 5% is that there was no char development what-so-ever unless you read the separate manga, and if you do that it becomes a whole lot better. Still, that's no excuse to not have it in the actual anime...

Strike Freedom
Wed, 10-05-2005, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by: Phoenix20578
Screw you Terra. I dont care what anyone says, Wing had the best gundam designs. G Gundam had
the best fights, and UC had the best story.


don't worry pheonix, I like Wing as well. As do many other people that I know, it is a popular anime, just not AMAZING or what not. I wouldn't rate it as the best as my friend would, but it definitely has its moments

drunkenmaster
Wed, 10-05-2005, 06:41 PM
i voted they are all great, but i would personally like to leave out G gundam , all except g gundam imo. if u want to yell at me, go ahead, we had this argument alrdy and i dont want this to become some mindless debate.

Curium
Wed, 10-05-2005, 11:16 PM
Personally I think people bag on wing too much. It is what it is.

EDIT: I went ahead and chose "All are great". I haven't seen them all, but you know what, they are all great in their own way with their own fan base.

AtHRunOwNZaLL
Wed, 10-05-2005, 11:19 PM
yea wing was a pretty good anime the only thing it lacked was emotion, zechs was the only one who in my opinion had great character development, maybe quatre but he's a pussy but wing is still pretty good, it was the second gundam series that i ever watched(seed being the first)

Strike Freedom
Thu, 10-06-2005, 12:43 AM
Preach on, Zechs was the best character in that series now that I think about it. He was more likeable than any of the main gundam characters (who were more like programmed machines).

isso
Thu, 10-06-2005, 12:49 AM
Zechs is the coolest charachter in Wing, noble yet deadly! =)

i didn't enjoy the show.. except Milliardo Peacecraft (Lt Zechs)...

Relena should be raped by a dog, wtf was she doing?

Strike Freedom
Thu, 10-06-2005, 12:54 AM
Ya, Relena was an annoying character, like Diana from Turn A and Lacus from SEED/Destiny

Altough, I could put up with Lacus more than the other ones just cause of her philosophical stance. Turn A, in my opinion was the worst Gundam series I've seen...

Marcis
Thu, 10-06-2005, 02:01 AM
MSG
Zeta
Gundam 0080
Char's Counterattack
Gundam 0083

kenren
Thu, 10-06-2005, 06:57 AM
Seed Destiny...this series introduced shinn , which have been my favourite character. awesome mobile suits like destiny. and girls like lunamaria <_<

Psyke
Thu, 10-06-2005, 07:51 AM
My fave would be Seed. Followed by G and 08th MS Team.

isso
Thu, 10-06-2005, 10:42 AM
Shinn is truly one of a kind.. He's more natural then Kira, Athrun is like a mixture of kira and shinn and I like him aswell.. But Kira, no thats a fairytale guy.. No one can be as him.. Must be that he's the ultimate coordinator or something.. Thats why I hate him so..

And Heine.. he's to cool.. miss him..

masamuneehs
Thu, 10-06-2005, 11:17 AM
Terra, I actualy disagree on Wing Zero EW version being better than the original. I feel wings on mecha are really tacky and ugly...

Isso, I actually agree with you for a change. Relena should be raped by a dog. Dumb bitch...

Curium, People do rag on Wing alot.

Yes, Wing does have some glaring flaws. The largest is obvious: the female lead is one of the most annoying wenches in anime history (and she even got so much power!) The second, as has been mentioned, is the lack of development for some characters. (I felt that Quatre, Zechs, Dorothy, Treize and Noin all developed while most of the others stayed about the same) There's no excuse for not putting the backgrounds from Episode Zero manga into the show, would have made created a better feel for the characters.

Wing did one thing well, it took time to go into the politics behind war in a way few Gundam series have. The duels between Gundams were pretty cool and I thought the Gundam designs were pretty cool (except for Heavyarms, come on people!) but the battles between major military forces were so one-sided it was like watching Kira vs. an army of Blind One-arm Zakus... The concept of the mobile dolls and the loss of warrior pride in modern war was an excellent theme too

heero
Thu, 10-06-2005, 04:32 PM
I voted for seed.

RedX1z
Fri, 10-07-2005, 07:21 PM
i also agree that relena has been annoying as well. always like "heero, i found you!", like damn woman leave him alone, he don't want anything to do with you. anyways, my vote goes for seed.

PSJ
Fri, 10-07-2005, 07:37 PM
Wing is good if you're drunk.

RedX1z
Fri, 10-07-2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by: PSJ
Wing is good if you're drunk.

what you be drinking?

isso
Fri, 10-07-2005, 07:54 PM
aaahhh drunkness..

No back to the subject, lol, nice that you (masamuneehs) agreed, when I said raped by a dog I didn't mean it littary, just that she's so annoying.. Theres actually one thing thats good about Wing, and it's not the show, it's the game, Gundam Wing Endless Duel.. It's a cool game, if you haven't played it I suggest you do so! =)

Strike Freedom
Fri, 10-07-2005, 10:07 PM
Ah, I would agree, the game is pretty good for a gundam game. The series overall could have been done much better, but I would prefer watching that to the last several episodes of Destiny after 34. There's no doubt that SEED is the best so far. In addition, I wonder what it would take to dethrone SEED as the best....hmmmm

masamuneehs
Sat, 10-08-2005, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by: isso
one thing thats good about Wing, and it's not the show, it's the game, Gundam Wing Endless Duel.. It's a cool game, if you haven't played it I suggest you do so! =)

Heavyarms = God in that game. Can keep an enemy away like its no-business and his Fierce Melee hit, smashing the enemy with the actual gatling gun arm does tons of damage and isn't that slow. His throws are also surprisngly fast for a "slow long-range" Gundam...

I'm glad someone brought this up, even though it has nothing to do with what the best Gundam series ever is...

Wonder what people would say in a "Best Ever Gundam Video Game" thread?
And would that go in the GSD part of the forum, or the gaming part of the forum?

Mite Gai
Sat, 10-08-2005, 02:38 PM
I am not going to even bother arguing for Zeta which is the best by far out of all of the series as the SEED fanboys would easily overpower me.

EDIT: Oh, and all SEED is IMO is a slight step from Wing, it really did nothing new. Oh, and there have been pretty much no good Gundam games so a poll on the best would probably just be which one people had played.

isso
Sat, 10-08-2005, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by: masamuneehs

Heavyarms = God in that game.


I think that Wing (not wing zero) is the ultimate gundam in that game.. It's crazy good..

I was wondering, Gundam Zeta is it a series or is it something i should watch before seeing Zeta, some movie or anything that has a vital connection to the series???

masamuneehs
Sat, 10-08-2005, 06:54 PM
isso, the UC storyline incorporates several different Gundam series.

Start with Mobile Suit Gundam (the original Gundam series) in the year 0079
Then there's Gundam 0080, War in the Pocket. This is a short, only 6 episodes or so, and its actually one of my favorites, but its not that important for the UC storyline IMO.
Next is Gundam 0083. I didn't think this series was all that great, but it does an excellent job setting the scene for
Zeta Gundam. This is the motherloving kickass of all UC series. This series kicks tremendous amounts of ass.
Later they developed a movie that formally concludes the UC timeline called Char's Counterattack.

Technically the last UC Gundam series is F91, but I really don't count it... Couldn't stand the main character and never even finished it.

Also there is another short Gundam series set during the One Year War around the time of the first Gundam series. It's called 8th MS Team and is hella cool.

NomoZ
Sat, 10-08-2005, 07:24 PM
The only thing you HAVE to watch before Zeta is the original MSG, or atleast the 3 movie version.

As for the UC timeline masamuneehs said I have to correct some things:

Mobile Suit Gundam - good but slow at times
MSG: The 08th Mobile Suit Team - side story, good
MSG 0080: War in the Pocket - side story, more of a drama but still good
MSG 0083: Stardust Memory - semi-side story, decent
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam - dark and fantastic
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ - first part hard to watch(unless you like stupid stupid humor), but once tomino takes over it becomes very entertaining
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack - concludes the original MSG saga, very good
Mobile Suit Gundam F91 - Originally planned as a series but was then turned into a movie(not that good)
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam - THIS is the last UC series, just as dark as Z, and is my 2nd favourite UC series

EDIT: Voted for Zeta(of course) but SEED is definately a close 2nd.

isso
Sat, 10-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Ok, but it's so hard to find these series, i dont know anywhere i can find them at al..

hmmm.. Thanks both of you for the information.. Now I just have to find them and get my hands on these gundamliousness... LOL

P.s Really lookin forward to this Zeta thingy, I watched Wing and I didn't like it at al (exept milliardo peacecraft aka Lt Zechs), so I haven't been interested in other gundam series, it kinda made me think they were the same as wing or something..

Mite Gai
Sat, 10-08-2005, 08:56 PM
You should be able to find several of them at boxtorrents.com though last I checked the only Zeta Gundam they had was a 14 GB dual audio so it is a long wait to DL.

isso
Sat, 10-08-2005, 09:07 PM
thats true, have to go there and look for it...

Ahhh found 3 versions, each being really big, but I'll have to dowload now.. =)

Curium
Sat, 10-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by: Mite Gai
You should be able to find several of them at boxtorrents.com though last I checked the only Zeta Gundam they had was a 14 GB dual audio so it is a long wait to DL.

The White_Base Dual Audio release was recently uploaded on Box. It is probably about the same thing, but it is only 10GB. (Only 10GB :rolli/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

Oh, and if the 08th MS Team Dual Audio needs seeds PM me. I uploaded it and still have the files ready to start seeding again if necessary.

Ban Kai
Sat, 10-08-2005, 10:07 PM
i like SEED the best so my vote goes to SEED =D.

Wren
Mon, 10-10-2005, 01:53 AM
for me its V Gundam. i like the way how it was done, and the main char was good, but not super overpowered like Kira.

alex_milliardo_zilch
Tue, 10-11-2005, 09:02 PM
As will be expected of me... Seed. I like everything about it.

Vegechan
Wed, 10-12-2005, 08:01 AM
Heh, I didn't like the G Gundam series. Yes, I understand it tried to take a different approach to Gundam, but different doesn't always equal better...

First of all, I didn't like most of the designs. Holland Gundam anyone?

Secondly, I didn't care for the DBZ type fighting in it. Super Sayian Gundams? No thank you.

Third, Shining finger? Burning Finger? You might want to see a doctor about that...

Fourth-ly? - Yes, we are going to hold a tournament of fighters to decide who is the ruler of all things and crown the "Gundam of Gundams" And after that, we can play a card game where we our souls on the line! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Fifth- Devil Gundam. You want to talk about God Moding? Regenerating Gundams?

So, yeah... G Gundam was just too... goofy for me.

As for my favorite? Heh, it's really had to pick a certain series. I didn't care for the original Mobile Suit Gundam until I watched a ton more UC stuff. Still have yet to see Z and ZZ. I loved 8th MS Team, that's probably my favorite UC story besides Char's Counter Attack. Gouf Custom ownz your soul. Gundam Wing, although with it's flaws still holds a place in my heart seeing how it's the very first Gundam series I watched. I also consider SEED and Destiny one series, just different seasons. That's a trend in anime lately, having the second season have another title.

So I guess my list goes:

Char's Counter Attack/Mobile Suit Gundam Movie (it's a box set, three movies in all, it's the entire story of MS Gundam. I highly reconmend it)
8th MS Team
Gundam SEED/Destiny
Gundam Wing

I still want to see Z and ZZ. I have seen 0080 and 0083, and while they were good, nothing memorable like the other series.