masamuneehs
Sun, 09-18-2005, 09:21 PM
I make this topic to just let people express, quickly and simply, their loves and hates about Gundam SEED Destiny. I know we have a Fukuda haters topic and a Fukuda praise topic (tho i think Mut's mostly being sarcastic) but I just wanted to have people throw down and rank the things about Destiny that they couldn't stand or absolutley loved.
My TOP 5:
1. Rey Za Burrel. Come on! He's the successor to Rau! He's not "evil" in the classical anime villain sense, but he is so grimly determined and loyal that he is a frightening monster. I also think that his and Shinn's friendship is one of the more interesting aspects of the show.
2. "Break the World" - A colony drop in the first season of a show! Usually its towards the finale when someone attempts a colony drop, but this time it was used to set the stage for the rest of the events. I was slightly confused about the EAF's lacking efforts to stop it (I'd have launched every nuke in my arsenal at the thing) but when Break the World happened I thought GSD was really thriving.
3. Auel Neider- He is an asshole and a momma's boy all at the same time! He is by far the most emotionally developed druggie to come out of SEED or GSD. His comments were always hilarious and he noticed Stellar's absence even though she had been wiped from his memory! Abyss was also an excellent Gundam.
4. Chairman Dullindal- Ok ok. I know we all saw his evilness coming, but he pulled most of it off so damn well! His only mistakes have come as plot devices to allow the Clyne Faction to have a fighting chance and side against him. Otherwise, just as Kira admitted, everyone would be in his pocket by now.
5. Meer Campbell- Yes I am serious! I'll say that an episode that was so much about her should NOT have come so late in the series, but I think the idea behind her character was excellent! Hollywood today is full of celebrities ripping off each others styles, stars being born and made by largely imitating the great ones that came before them, jumping on the bandwagon. And Meer to me is the limit of that phenomenon. It was also an excellent political move, and I'm glad GSD continued addressing the issue of propaganda and its effect in wartime.
TOP 5 HATED:
1. Lacus Clyne- Burn bitch burn. I'm still baffled about why people listen to her... I also think she's turned into this delivery system for Fukuda to warp all of our minds, trying to form our morals about what is right and wrong in war. Her long speeches are boring, her saddness unpitiable, her lack of direct political action in GSD (not even appearing on the political scene until episode 40 or so!) laughable. She is such a goody-two-shoes it makes me sick to my stomach. And she in turn has infected...
2. Kira Yamato- Wow, I could just list the rest of the things about Kira in GSD that I hate for the rest of my top 5. He can't die. He still won't kill. He spouts as much shit as Lacus. He has seen about 0 character development. He is the Deus Ex Machina and posterboy of GSD. I used to think he was the best back in SEED...
3. Reviving Mwu- Way to totally trample one of the best moments from the SEED series. I thought it was beautiful, him taking the shot and saving the ArchAngel while Azreal and Nataru were also killed in the battle. But then he gets revived, granted his role was pretty kickass, and they try to keep us in suspense for 30+ episodes, when it's so painfully obvious that Neo is Mwu. Now his memory is back, nobody seems to care about his role in the Destroy massacre in Berlin, and he's shacking up with Maryu again. He was one of my favorite SEED characters too...
4. ArchAngel and Lacus Faction's never-ending surprises and military resources- No one, not even a rockstar, not even the daughter of the former Chairman can finance all of that stuff. Her account would have been frozen by ZAFT anyway. Her information network is never explained, but always digs up the most pertinent information at the most pivitol of times. And then there's the AA. It just keeps getting repaired and sheltered, but we really don't see alot of WHO gives them supplies and how they can pay for it. Finally we have a mysterious Factory up in space churning out the two most powerful Gundams ever, and neither ZAFT nor EAF have any role in it (ORB neither, since it was being controlled by Yuna Roma at the time) but this top-notch miltary technology is still available to our loved heroes! makes me barf.
5. Flashbacks- I don't need to be reminded constantly of what happened. I think they're using all the recycled clips to save money, those stingy bastards.
Well, there's a little more than my two cents! What do you all think?
My TOP 5:
1. Rey Za Burrel. Come on! He's the successor to Rau! He's not "evil" in the classical anime villain sense, but he is so grimly determined and loyal that he is a frightening monster. I also think that his and Shinn's friendship is one of the more interesting aspects of the show.
2. "Break the World" - A colony drop in the first season of a show! Usually its towards the finale when someone attempts a colony drop, but this time it was used to set the stage for the rest of the events. I was slightly confused about the EAF's lacking efforts to stop it (I'd have launched every nuke in my arsenal at the thing) but when Break the World happened I thought GSD was really thriving.
3. Auel Neider- He is an asshole and a momma's boy all at the same time! He is by far the most emotionally developed druggie to come out of SEED or GSD. His comments were always hilarious and he noticed Stellar's absence even though she had been wiped from his memory! Abyss was also an excellent Gundam.
4. Chairman Dullindal- Ok ok. I know we all saw his evilness coming, but he pulled most of it off so damn well! His only mistakes have come as plot devices to allow the Clyne Faction to have a fighting chance and side against him. Otherwise, just as Kira admitted, everyone would be in his pocket by now.
5. Meer Campbell- Yes I am serious! I'll say that an episode that was so much about her should NOT have come so late in the series, but I think the idea behind her character was excellent! Hollywood today is full of celebrities ripping off each others styles, stars being born and made by largely imitating the great ones that came before them, jumping on the bandwagon. And Meer to me is the limit of that phenomenon. It was also an excellent political move, and I'm glad GSD continued addressing the issue of propaganda and its effect in wartime.
TOP 5 HATED:
1. Lacus Clyne- Burn bitch burn. I'm still baffled about why people listen to her... I also think she's turned into this delivery system for Fukuda to warp all of our minds, trying to form our morals about what is right and wrong in war. Her long speeches are boring, her saddness unpitiable, her lack of direct political action in GSD (not even appearing on the political scene until episode 40 or so!) laughable. She is such a goody-two-shoes it makes me sick to my stomach. And she in turn has infected...
2. Kira Yamato- Wow, I could just list the rest of the things about Kira in GSD that I hate for the rest of my top 5. He can't die. He still won't kill. He spouts as much shit as Lacus. He has seen about 0 character development. He is the Deus Ex Machina and posterboy of GSD. I used to think he was the best back in SEED...
3. Reviving Mwu- Way to totally trample one of the best moments from the SEED series. I thought it was beautiful, him taking the shot and saving the ArchAngel while Azreal and Nataru were also killed in the battle. But then he gets revived, granted his role was pretty kickass, and they try to keep us in suspense for 30+ episodes, when it's so painfully obvious that Neo is Mwu. Now his memory is back, nobody seems to care about his role in the Destroy massacre in Berlin, and he's shacking up with Maryu again. He was one of my favorite SEED characters too...
4. ArchAngel and Lacus Faction's never-ending surprises and military resources- No one, not even a rockstar, not even the daughter of the former Chairman can finance all of that stuff. Her account would have been frozen by ZAFT anyway. Her information network is never explained, but always digs up the most pertinent information at the most pivitol of times. And then there's the AA. It just keeps getting repaired and sheltered, but we really don't see alot of WHO gives them supplies and how they can pay for it. Finally we have a mysterious Factory up in space churning out the two most powerful Gundams ever, and neither ZAFT nor EAF have any role in it (ORB neither, since it was being controlled by Yuna Roma at the time) but this top-notch miltary technology is still available to our loved heroes! makes me barf.
5. Flashbacks- I don't need to be reminded constantly of what happened. I think they're using all the recycled clips to save money, those stingy bastards.
Well, there's a little more than my two cents! What do you all think?