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Vokalyzd Harmony
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:02 AM
good episode..one more filler arc hopefully..

Paithan
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:05 AM
You want another filler arc? Damn...

BioAlien
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:09 AM
how much more filler do you think there is left?

and the only good part of this episode was hinata new move

Husse
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:24 AM
Omg. This was by far the best filler episode ever. I got that classic Naruto feeling once more. Looking forward to Rock Lee filler arc!

ES
Thu, 09-15-2005, 06:06 AM
Hmm...another filler arc would seem moronic but if it means Neji's team...then I would love to see it then....

Bob1
Thu, 09-15-2005, 06:35 AM
3 episodes till opening change and what everyone speculates to be the start of the manga again. Hopefully this new filler will be wrapped up by then. I don't know how much more I can take. This filler was very nice and I enjoyed it alot until he farted. Way to sh*t on a good thing. Even the Rasengan was nice, although my thoughts were *sigh* when I first saw it being prepared, but this time it was how it should have been all those times before and pwned them good.

I was disappointed in the lack of animation on Hinata's move.

Tonsus
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:41 AM
Well, that was filler wasn't just bad, it was useless. At least this episode was good.

Oh wait, Hinata didn't get cock-blocked at that hug scene, so all's well that ends well.
*2 things I learned from this episode*
1. All filler villains, no matter how badass, meet the same fate as a Team Rocket goon.
2. Hinata is plugging her recent sponsorship from "Moto"rola.

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:45 AM
"Naruto fillers - where Sakura can lift enormous poles & Hinata can defeat summons single-handidly"

(also known as "the bullshit realm")

Yeah. That's what this episode was. Complete and utter bullshit. The female bug user's forehead is so damn ugly, for starters. But that is nothing compared to the fact that this was among the worst episodes I've ever seen. SOOOOO predictable (even for filler) and Hinata is so DAMN ANNOYING PLZ DIE YOU STUPID BITCH! "Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun! More, more!". Go star in a damn porno instead you worthless broad (not like any movies would accept her entrance). And Naruto. ooooh, Naruto. If I had a penny every time you said you will never forgive someone, I'd be rich, and I'd use the money to convince Kishimoto to kill you and Hinata off (but only after excessive torture). Goddamnit, that sucked. And Hinata's new move was laughable. "this is like Neji's kaiten, except I stand in a silly way and swing my arms around for no apparent reason". And the farting thing. GOD THAT IS SOOOO NOT FUNNY. It's so damn stupid, and further fuels Naruto's idiocy. Also, it destroyed the entire Naruto/Kiba fight 100 eps ago. Back when I didn't want to kill Naruto because he's such a Sasuke obsessed fucking idiot.

The few highlights of the episode:

- Seeing Naruto getting stomped in the head
- Seeing Hinata getting punched down and panicking before that
- Seeing Neji in the end
- Seeing rasengan... hah! gotcha! Just kidding. Rasengan sucks, just like Naruto. It's a lame and ugly move ("look! a ball!") and overused beyond redemption.

I hope the next filler will be better. But I'd appreciate if they just left Naruto at home (or killed him) and let team Gai do the mission themselves...

Edit: Nice sig ES i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

The Heretic Azazel
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:23 AM
I thought this episode was awesome, the animation was really different and the camera angles they messed with kinda reminded me of FLCL.

nests
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:33 AM
It was an ok filler but I would much rather had Naruto getting pissed of and wiping the floor with everyone than Hinata saving them.
I not a Hinata hater but I still say Neji could take her out easly even with that move

Vokalyzd Harmony
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by: Paithan
You want another filler arc? Damn...

What I meant was..the next filler arc is hopefully the last..since we know there is one more..so hopefully it's the last one

Turkish-S
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:43 AM
not super but good.

maikes
Thu, 09-15-2005, 11:05 AM
this episode is almost good. Much better then Tony the tiger filler arc. The arc that is coming after this one seems to be quite interesting, lets hope its a good one.

Aeon
Thu, 09-15-2005, 11:36 AM
That ep was great, Hinata's move was damn cool but the fart at the end ruined the ep for me. Anyways we get to see a mission that involves Neji and Tenten i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif, they better not ruin it I wanna see Tenten's scroll dragons again.

isso
Thu, 09-15-2005, 12:06 PM
damn these episodes 135 + have been quite lame i must say.. And the music has been worse, they don't use their good soundtrack to the maximum..

I tought for a moment that it would be a better episode when naruto look up after being kicked in the head and had his FOX eyes!!!! But HELL NO..

I want to see fox-powers!!! And why didn't he summon his mega-cool frog king gamabunta to kill of that lame-ass beequeen!!!

NO, stop ruining the series and give us some good episodes with ero-senin JIRAYA!!!

Teach him more cool techniques.. If he's going to be hokage he needs to improve!! HELL..

Move the series forward, let em become chuninins so they can use the cool wests or something.. it has to move forward, he can't remain a little unamature brat..

I would like to see a leap forward like 3 years, giving a more mature and strong naruto.. That can fight sasuke so that his body wount become host to Orochimaru..

THAT would be GREAT!!!

What do you think, and i want some serious answers, not "you suck", "we love this kinda (older children) anime"????

Demolution
Thu, 09-15-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by: nests
It was an ok filler but I would much rather had Naruto getting pissed of and wiping the floor with everyone than Hinata saving them.
I not a Hinata hater but I still say Neji could take her out easly even with that move

That's exactly what I would've wanted myself.... i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

ChibiYali
Thu, 09-15-2005, 02:48 PM
well.. let's hope this filler is the last one for now..

can't wait to see the stuff that's been put into the manga, from what I've heard there will be some wardrobe changes too!
Always irks me to see that characters never change their clothes i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

Necromas
Thu, 09-15-2005, 03:23 PM
I would have just rather had it so the Bikochuu was somehow killed then something as lame as Naruto farting on it.

Tohan
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:12 PM
I had high hopes for this episode. At last, Hinata can prove that she's cool too, lets see her moves! Oh, yeah, she's bringin up the kickass kaiten thingy, but what's this? It's totally lame! I almost closed my media player there.

Assertn
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:27 PM
what was the point of shino mentioning that antidote he had a few eps back that had a side effect of scaring bugs away? i....i kinda expected him to use it....
since you know...he mentioned it and all

isso
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by: Tohan
I had high hopes for this episode. At last, Hinata can prove that she's cool too, lets see her moves! Oh, yeah, she's bringin up the kickass kaiten thingy, but what's this? It's totally lame! I almost closed my media player there.

LOL, I felt the same!!! =)

Lookin forward to a wardrobe change...

Turkish-S
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:41 PM
lol we nouw have 4 ULTIMATE DEFENCE's
neji gaara kimi and hinata. like WTF....

Honinbou
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:42 PM
Hmmz.. this filler was better then the other ones.. but still fillers suck..
and well.. the fart really made it look like a childisch anime... Maybe that's it... naruto makers try to attract more childs as watchers...
too bad... this filler is with Team Neji? well. let it be worth to watch.. I thought Naruto was best anime but when naruto past the 100th episode (maybe another epi.. doesn't matter) is started to be f*cked up..
I dont think this anime is keeping all its viewers... own fault...

Tonsus
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Hinata is so DAMN ANNOYING PLZ DIE YOU STUPID BITCH! "Naruto-kun, Naruto-kun! More, more!". Go star in a damn porno instead you worthless broad (not like any movies would accept her entrance).Well that would be the best career choice for her, considering that her rack inflates exponentially each episode.

Phoenix20578
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by: Tonsus
Well that would be the best career choice for her, considering that her rack inflates exponentially each episode.

*Insert sexist joke here*

DemonFoxNaruto
Thu, 09-15-2005, 04:48 PM
Another Filler .. Damn ...

I hate something in this episode :
1 - Hinata move " I hate hinata in action but she is my favourite "
2 - The Fart .
3 - The Bad End Of the filler as usual .

Teki
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:17 PM
I have a question about this episode...
I thought the female bug user used her honey bees on hinata but when hinta cuts the bees up with her new move, the bugs didn't release the sticky honey and stop her. So what happened to the honey?

XanBcoo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:17 PM
I didn't think the episode was that bad - just the ending w/the fart and all.

I felt it had a little more heart to it than the other filler episodes. It was actually pretty exciting for a while.

But yeah, Hinata's new move is ultra dorky. It reminds me of one of those Burger King Kid's Meal toys where you press a little button and a sphere rotates quickly around a small figure inside. Y'know?

lol, 4 ultimate defenses.

isso
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by: Honinbou
Hmmz.. this filler was better then the other ones.. but still fillers suck..
and well.. the fart really made it look like a childisch anime... Maybe that's it... naruto makers try to attract more childs as watchers...
too bad... this filler is with Team Neji? well. let it be worth to watch.. I thought Naruto was best anime but when naruto past the 100th episode (maybe another epi.. doesn't matter) is started to be f*cked up..
I dont think this anime is keeping all its viewers... own fault...

Yes I was thinking the same? are they going more childish now when they are reaching the US market by Cartoon network????

If so I'm totally dumping this, one of my favroites, forever.. Hate to say it but they are amking it into something i wouldn't watch.. hell i hate the script writer.. plz tell me his email and i'll send him my thoughts! lol!!!

DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maverick-DBZ-
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by: Teki
I have a question about this episode...
I thought the female bug user used her honey bees on hinata but when hinta cuts the bees up with her new move, the bugs didn't release the sticky honey and stop her. So what happened to the honey?

Since the honey wasen't released it's pretty safe to say she used different bees.


The episdoe itself was pretty good compared to past fillers this one seemed more naruto like. I just got that feeling. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Cyberdude93
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I hope the next filler will be better. But I'd appreciate if they just left Naruto at home (or killed him) and let team Gai do the mission themselves...

Personally I'd like this. I like real Naruto, but filler Naruto just plain sucks. They SHOULD have fillers using the (remaining) Genin teams, just not with Naruto. Hence why I think InoShikaChou was the best filler yet. But Naruto, Sakura and the subject of Sasuke are so repetetive during filler.

Although I COULD understand why they did this. It felt a bit more random than the Idate arc I guess, which was "Here's a shitty mission and some all-healing remedy. Now get the fuck out of my office".

Oh, and no more fake flashbacks, i.e. the Mizuki ones.

*sigh* if only they had psuedo-fillers like One Piece. It has side-stories that appeared as a series of front covers on the manga or something, some of which Toei expanded into 2 episodes each, creating most of the dialogue and doing a damn good job of it.

Necromas
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:45 PM
Just don't post spoilers in this forum. At all. Nobody here who doesn't already read the manga is interested. Also, don't double post.

GotWoot Moderator

Necromas
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by: Turkish-S
lol we nouw have 4 ULTIMATE DEFENCE's
neji gaara kimi and hinata. like WTF....

Make that 5 if you count both of Gaaras

Shield of Sand
(the shield of sand and when he completely encases himself in a sphere of sand are technically the same move)

The thing where he made a giant fat guy out of sand to block Kimimaros bone thing.
(yes, he said it was an ultimate defense)

isso
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:51 PM
Ohhhh... I must start reading it or something, otherwise i'll lose my intrest in naruto..

Hell why does these fillers have to be aired?? shoot the script writer...

mr3vi1m0nk3y
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by: Teki
I have a question about this episode...
I thought the female bug user used her honey bees on hinata but when hinta cuts the bees up with her new move, the bugs didn't release the sticky honey and stop her. So what happened to the honey?

yeah there were 2 sets of bees: the fake one which were honey and the real ones with the poison

Y
Thu, 09-15-2005, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by: isso
Ohhhh... I must start reading it or something, otherwise i'll lose my intrest in naruto..

Hell why does these fillers have to be aired?? shoot the script writer...

They're aired, duh, to fill space. Idiots would cry if Naruto just stopped airing for four months.

Aeon
Thu, 09-15-2005, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
what was the point of shino mentioning that antidote he had a few eps back that had a side effect of scaring bugs away? i....i kinda expected him to use it....
since you know...he mentioned it and all

He used it on the bikochu container to keep her bee's from finding it.

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 06:52 PM
I can't believe there are people who found this episode good. At least the earlier parts of this arc were sorta funny, but this was just garbage.

smurfyy
Thu, 09-15-2005, 07:02 PM
omfg...how much shit can these guys pull from their fucking ass damit. How long do they plan to freakin stretch it?! half the eps in naruto are crap and got nothing to do wit anything. this ep sucked, wtf, a fart ruining a mission? wtf is up wit that?! then the past three eps were useless. come to think of it, the past thirty or more eps had been useless. WHO THE FUK GIVES A SHIT BOUT SASUKE. KILL ORICHIMARU ALREADY DAMIT

Tonsus
Thu, 09-15-2005, 07:14 PM
This episode wasn't GOOD by a far stretch, but it isn't as much of an abomination as the previous episodes have been.

aznroyale
Thu, 09-15-2005, 07:48 PM
so many DEFs -_-

UberSuperHACKER
Thu, 09-15-2005, 07:56 PM
ok... so hinita shoots lasers now... and is it just me or are they animating her to look better then she used to?

She should shoot lasers out of her eyes ... bakyuguan lasers... and They should be powered by narutos farts...

I dont get it ... Is that bug gonna chill on narutos ass forever now..? Honestly it a HORRRIBLE way to end it .. but the animation in this episode WAS good...

The best filler episode ever is still 101 (I think.. trying to see kakashi's real face)... that was hilarious when he blocked the tea kettle with the table....BUT now they try to add comedy and FAIL at it ... what gives... they could have just made it NOT suck and end SANS farting

The Other bug people should have killed the bug... or something......

I guess maby those things hinita was shootin were chakara strings.. Shw should put a puppet on each one
then she can do BAKAYGUAN puppet ATTACKing.....

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 08:02 PM
So am I honestly the only one who finds it SLIGHTLY odd that Hinata defeated a bigass summon by herself?

Hello?

Hinata?

What has Hinata done in the series?

1) Gotten raped by Neji
2) Mumbled Naruto-kun more times than I've had sex with my inflatable Yzak doll
3) Participated in a whole lot of below par hentai comics (I know they suck because I read them all)

And now she's "STRONG"? The old Hinata we knew IS NO MORE? Holy bullshit batman

And all she did was stand still and wave her hands like she had some kind of ultra parkinson

smurfyy
Thu, 09-15-2005, 08:27 PM
lol terra, u actually took the inflateable Yzak doll to heart huh?
and yes, the beams are weird. will the tables be turned now and she'll end up rapeing negi or somthing???

ES
Thu, 09-15-2005, 08:56 PM
It's amusing when I read poeple's post about how they hate the rasengan...the most overused jutsu on the series...next to the bunshins....probably the only thing that would make me love to see a Rasengan is...if they showed the fourth using it...well back in topic...Lighten up guys...next filler...Gai's team!


...with lame ass errands from Tsunade?

Phoenix20578
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:00 PM
Thats no reason to lightin up. Thats a reason to burn script writers alive....

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by: smurfyy
lol terra, u actually took the inflateable Yzak doll to heart huh?

Actually the whole Yzak doll thing is quite old, you just happened to join the bandwagon by coincidence i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

XanBcoo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:20 PM
Hell, at least the animation was damn good. I enjoyed it just for that. Hinata looked like Aoi from Ai Yori Aoshi i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

lol, ultra parkinson...

Mite Gai
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:38 PM
Wow, what a stupid way to end something so serious, Naruto farts and the bug now follows his butt. At least, they made Hinata an OK character now. If they concentrate on TenTen in the Team Gai arc I am gonna quit watching until the filler is over.

Tonsus
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:39 PM
I think Kishimoto made that jutsu because he was swayed by avid Naruto watcher Michael J. Fox.

I think anyone of the group could've defeated five-head's summon, but were too weak because of the chakra-sucking larvae.

JusDaMan
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:40 PM
its pretty good actucally. i mean even though it can be said a filler its still part of the naruto anime.

Out of all absolute defences Hinata's is atleast original

Neji copied his from his uncle with out neji knowing
Garra got his from Shukaku
Chances are shino's defence bug thing is used by his other clans member
Kimi dont seem to have an absolute defence....
Ukon and sakon's defence is a summon from orochimaru.

Hinata's was made directly by herself.

I just watch and learn to deal with it since im not paying for it anyway.

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:43 PM
@Tonsus: Except it's filler, so Kishimoto didn't make the jutsu.

@JusDaMan: No, all she did was trying to use hakke in the water and that move magically came about. It's not like she sat down one day and thought "time to invent a new mega cool original jutsu!".

Also, the absolute defense shit has been done to death - so original is the last word I'd use (slightly after "stupid" & "nonsensical")

XanBcoo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:45 PM
Actually Neji figured the Kaiten out all by himself. He didn't "copy" it at all. It was a technique that already existed, but he had no knowledge of it or how to do it when he figured it out. He's called a genious for a reason.

Now that I think about it, Hinata's move copied from the 64/126 strike thing, as it is essentially the same thing. Just without the lasers.



Originally posted by: Terracosmo
@JusDaMan: No, all she did was trying to use hakke in the water and that move magically came about. It's not like she sat down one day and thought "time to invent a new mega cool original jutsu!".


You sure? I was under the impression she created it herself. I should watch the ep. again.

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 09:53 PM
Hinata even gets owned by her younger sister. No way in hell does she come up with something herself from scratch. Even if it is filler. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

nge484
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:45 PM
Okay, I can't believe what I'm reading here. Or maybe I'm just not picking up on everyone's sarcasm.
That episode blew major ass. For once I agree with Terracosmo.

Hinata's "Ultimate Defense" thing was the most retarded technique I've seen in this whole series. She's flailing her fucking arms around and splitting bees in half. The whole time I was thinking "if she learned Neji's kaiten, this would be a lot faster and easier." Also, I like Hinata as a character, but the whole "Naruto-kun" thing....HOLY SHIT that annoys the crap outta me O_o Even my brother's girlfriend's younger brother who watched only half an episode mentioned how stupid and annoying it is. He's what? 8? 9 at most? Something like that. And another thing, Hinata needs to quit "copying" Naruto. Not giving up only because Naruto wouldn't. It's lame and annoying. She should want to not give up for herself and to save her own ass when she's about to die, dammit...

And what part of this episode was well animated? It's just like any other episode. The only really well animated episodes I can think of were the biggest fights. Mostly because of the art style used, but Orochimaru vs. 5th Hokage, and Naruto vs. Sasuke. To be honest, this series cheeses on the animation because they don't have to make it detailed. Watch more anime, you'll see what I'm talking about.

You know, not to attack anyone or their opinions here, but seriously, people like y'all are the reason there are more filler arcs. They see people's reactions "that was an alright episode" when they knew it was complete crap when they made it...and then since y'all ate it up, they just make more and get more money from it. It's an endless cycle...

What it all comes down to is they need to stop making filler arcs.
Period.

Terracosmo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by: nge484
For once I agree with Terracosmo.

How does it feel to be on the winning side for once?

XanBcoo
Thu, 09-15-2005, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by: nge484
And what part of this episode was well animated? It's just like any other episode. The only really well animated episodes I can think of were the biggest fights. Mostly because of the art style used, but Orochimaru vs. 5th Hokage, and Naruto vs. Sasuke. To be honest, this series cheeses on the animation because they don't have to make it detailed. Watch more anime, you'll see what I'm talking about.


I watch enough anime to know what I'm talking about thank you.
This episodes animation showed a difference in art style that I really enjoyed. As Heretic Azazel said, parts of it reminded me of FLCL. Watch it again and compare it to any given episode. The animation style is quite different, and in my opinion, much better. The only thing I didn't like about it was that Naruto's eyes were really huge.

Edit: So yeah, everything else was super fluid and drawn very stylistically. So what part wasn't well animated??

Necromas
Thu, 09-15-2005, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by: XanBcoo
Actually Neji figured the Kaiten out all by himself. He didn't "copy" it at all. It was a technique that already existed, but he had no knowledge of it or how to do it when he figured it out. He's called a genious for a reason.

Now that I think about it, Hinata's move copied from the 64/126 strike thing, as it is essentially the same thing. Just without the lasers.



Originally posted by: Terracosmo
@JusDaMan: No, all she did was trying to use hakke in the water and that move magically came about. It's not like she sat down one day and thought "time to invent a new mega cool original jutsu!".


You sure? I was under the impression she created it herself. I should watch the ep. again.

Obviously Neji knew it existed and had seen it before, he was simply never taught it.

The Heretic Azazel
Thu, 09-15-2005, 11:12 PM
Naruto looked adorable in that shot where he's looking at Hinata, as she's waking up.. hehe. Everybody was just so balloony and out of proportion you know, its cool to see now and then, a style like that being used. The only times I saw the motions looking like that was like during Naruto/Sasuke and Sasuke/Oro but even this was distinctly different, like a new team started or something.

But I do agree there were some corny aspects to this, and while the fart turned everyone off, I just pretended it never happened and went about my business... my self-denial doesn't bother me a bit. Yeah I know it was stupid after such a different vibe to an episode, but what can you do...

Also I wanted the Rasengan to tear through some bee ass. Finally a chance where Naruto doesn't have to kill anyone, just a summon, and it didn't happen. I always wanted to see the move carved in someone like Jiraiya did to the tree in the training. But the explosion was nifty at least.



You know, not to attack anyone or their opinions here, but seriously, people like y'all are the reason there are more filler arcs. They see people's reactions "that was an alright episode" when they knew it was complete crap when they made it...and then since y'all ate it up, they just make more and get more money from it. It's an endless cycle...

It's not like I like everything, but aren't you being a little condescending... I thought a lot of this filller over the past few months was crap (Mizuki, Stupid Bros. etc.) So I shouldn't like this episode? I think some of you (NOT ALL, SOME) don't give these individual episodes a chance and just put them under the filler blanket term where all is shitty.

And I don't know where you get your fansubs.... but mine are free. So, shitty episode or not, they're not getting any money out of my download.

smurfyy
Fri, 09-16-2005, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo


Originally posted by: nge484
For once I agree with Terracosmo.

How does it feel to be on the winning side for once?

it hurts...it really hurts...something in my chest feels like its threatening to pop out...o wait, nvm, its just a stroke.
but yea, other than that..it hurts mentally...not on the winning side, but on your side for once i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

and shit. what other option is ther? this anime officially sucks now. i mean, its trying to freakin copy pokemon for fuck's sake. At least pokemon had a damn plot, ( the gym's and shit) but naruto? the only plot i knew for naruto since ep 70 approximately was to kill orochimaru. And it doesnt seem like its gonna happen anytime soon

UberSuperHACKER
Fri, 09-16-2005, 12:54 AM
Terracosmo & nge484 ... Um have you all not been reading my previous posts... of course hinita got that move... her Bukuyuguan lets her see temperatures better.. THIS lets her find water falls to train by when she needs to train becuase its water and its colder and stuff... WHICH IS WHAT everyone with bakuaguan does... They train at waterfalls becuase they can see them better.

SO of course its a natural progression that if you trtain at waterfalls (which you can SEE better becuas they are colder and you have bakuaguan)... That you will at SOME POINT in time .. after much hard work... Be able to shoot lasers out of your hands.......

If you cannot see the logical connection there... Well then you probally are simply not drinking enough Drain-O..... Personally I like I chug a bit of Liquid plumber when I think about it... it helps me to clear my mind.. and understand the idea of laser hands....Yupp it makes perfect sense...... now I am gonna go outside and watch my yard turn different colors....

Tonsus
Fri, 09-16-2005, 01:31 AM
No, all of your opinions are wrong, and mine is right, 'nuff said. i/expressions/rolleye.gif
Personally, I think this episode was all right (aside from the end, which was fucking horrible), but that's about all you're going to get in a filler. I'm not much of an anime purist, but from what I've seen, the animation, or art, or whatever sounds better looks okay.

But then again, you guys are entitled to my..er, your opinions.

Vokalyzd Harmony
Fri, 09-16-2005, 04:06 AM
episode was good filler wise..but stop your moaning people..i really think..after 4 months of fillers..Gai's teams filler arc is going to be the last one..and this filler arc was only what? 3 eps long? so hopefully..after 3 more weeks..we can get back to the manga..3 more weeks..fuck me..that's such a long time

nge484
Fri, 09-16-2005, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo


Originally posted by: nge484
For once I agree with Terracosmo.

How does it feel to be on the winning side for once?

Cute.
You should be proud of yourself. You can identify an shitty episode just as well as I can =)


XanBcoo: Look man, I don't know how much you've seen, and I'm not going to claim that I've seen more than you or anything that stupid. I've got a good amount of anime under my belt as well, and there aren't a whole lot out there that dedicate a lot of good animation into every episode. I didn't see what was so special about this particular episode compared to the rest of the series. Was it the CG bees hovering around Hinata? Seriously, I think the only above average part (when it comes to the animation) was when it focused on Naruto when he was pissed and had the Kyuubi eyes. But opinions are opinions. I didn't find anything special about it, you did. Good for you and the rest of ya'. May seem like it, but there's no sarcasm intended there.

UberSuperHACKER: Well of couse all Byakugan users like waterfalls! I mean everyone knows that! And I love how they have such a logical explination for her to be able to perform her technique too!
You know something? She's still flailing her arms...you know, like the Power Rangers? They had reasons for having their giant robots too, but that didn't make it a good TV show...
Pass some of the plumber shit...i/expressions/beer.gif

The Heretic Azazel: It's not that I don't give the episode a chance. I give it a chance each time I open the file and dedicate to 20-25 minutes to watch it. From time to time I do find a remotely interesting or redeeming quality in an episode or two. But comparing filler episodes to your normal episodes (dirived from the manga), the ratio of good to bad episodes isn't very good. I really shouldn't say that there aren't any redeeming qulities of the fillers, because everyone may find something they enjoyed about it. Especially since everyone's opinion is just that; an opinion. No one's "wrong." I personally just think it sucks and in 151 I found little to no redeeming qualities. And the part that should have been cool, looked completely rediculous to me.
I'd rather just have less people supporting the filler arcs, cuz for all we know, it may be why they keep making them. Because people don't mind the lower quality episode...

So that's the boat I'm in...

Masamune
Fri, 09-16-2005, 06:25 AM
found this team 8 filler at least somewhat better then the previous filler.

It had a more feeling original naruto feeling to it. As most things were done in stealthy way , rather then naruto's charge and punch way.

ending sucked.

cheatcountry
Fri, 09-16-2005, 07:57 AM
well I personally would like to note that I think the whole Naruto Hinata thing is actually progressing. For once he actually said something good and seemed to look at her in a new light. And of course the whole waking up in his arms thing. I would like to see them together for once and would like to see how it turns out.

XanBcoo
Fri, 09-16-2005, 09:56 AM
@nge484: The animation in Naruto is not constant, therefore different episodes look different. The particular animation style was more fluid, more detailed, and stylistic. There is a notable difference:

Rasengan from this episode:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8591/rasengan20ly.jpg

and a Rasengan from a few episodes back:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5598/rasengan3qw.jpg

I'm not going to ask you which you prefer, but just try and tell me those look the same. I liked the animation in this episode because it stood out from the others. I'm not arguing here, just trying to explain that the animation was not sub par.

lol, I thought UberSuperHacker was serious at first i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

mage
Fri, 09-16-2005, 12:22 PM
No, there was nothing special about 151's animation at all. Maybe compared to the normal shitty filler animation, but when you compare it to GOOD animation, it's still BELOW average.

XanBcoo
Fri, 09-16-2005, 01:06 PM
Well yes, compared to episodes like 133, 48, 71, etc etc (the ones done by that guy), this episode's animation is not as good. But it's still better than your run of the mill episode. And yes, I mean non-filler episodes too.

You're just complaining 'cause it's filler. And filler is teh sux0r, right? Well get your head outta your ass and actually watch the episode. It wasn't STUNNING, but it was still a lot better than what we're usually treated to. I feel I'm overusing the word "fluid" but that's a good way of descibing the animation in this episode. That, and like Heretic said, the balloony proportions, weird camera angles, and exaggerated movements of the characters. I'd post another picture to rub it in, but that would not prove my point about the quality of the animation, b/c it's only a screenshot.

Nothing special = I hate fillers and I'm going to bitch about it.

Vokalyzd Harmony
Fri, 09-16-2005, 01:54 PM
you know what? I thought the filler episode was good but I went back and watched episode 91-96 out of boredom..downloaded it and everything..and it's such a big difference from this shitpile they put on a platter to us every week..you don't realize how much you miss the animation..the storyline..the battles..until you rewatch a few old episodes..so I say..fuck this filler..I agree with all of the negative comments..this filler sucks..
..but HInata's hot so it makes up for it..sorta

nge484
Fri, 09-16-2005, 01:56 PM
Well, I'll give it to you that the art was pretty good in the episode. Especially compared to the last one you showed. I know they don't always have the same artists going at it and each episode comes out a little different (hence, why they use that one particular artist on the big fights). But I wasn't talking as much about the art of the episode. I was discussing mainly about the animation. How fluid the movements were from frame to frame.
To me (at least), the animation and fluidity of the episode looked fairly normal. But hey, I'm no expert. You may still be right. It's just the way I remember it. I'd rewatch the episode again and pay more attention to the animation in order to discuss it more with you, but I really don't want to kill more brain cells than I already had to i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

Jadugar
Fri, 09-16-2005, 02:05 PM
It was a sad day when I watched Naruto 151. Why?

Shino : "Hinata you once knew is no more."

Holyshit. Hinata looks cooler than Neji in that episode. All Neji had that Kaiten move and she has taken that away from him.

Behold......................Shugohakke Rokujyuu Yonshou : 64 strikes

And when Hinata said, Naruto kun. Please watch me. I thought she is going to take off her clothes. Thank god that dint happen.

The animation was much much better than the previous fillers but a silly way to end the episode. Shino showed his leading abilities.

Looking forward to see Gais Team in action especially Lee. He has been out of the action for too long.

Shinda
Fri, 09-16-2005, 02:17 PM
wow, the episode was actually kinda cool, and the art was okay, only the ending sucked
I only hope that the next arc has some neji action and that after there isn't coming a shikamaru, chouji and ino filler

DB_Hunter
Fri, 09-16-2005, 02:45 PM
Forget that my friend what you don't want is a filler involving Konohamaru, Udon and Moegi...

Mut
Fri, 09-16-2005, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by: XanBcoo
comparison
They both look awful.

isso
Fri, 09-16-2005, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Forget that my friend what you don't want is a filler involving Konohamaru, Udon and Moegi...

No we don't want that but i'll bet you that there will be one.. HELL, what has happen to naruto? They got lost and found them self at suck-ville???

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Fri, 09-16-2005, 04:35 PM
I didnt hate this ep but Im glad I get to see lee, neji, tenten, and gai for the next filler. If there has to be another filler after this one Id want a team Gaara filler.

XanBcoo I also liked the animation a lot more on this episode, almost made me forget it was a filler until naruto farted. After that it was downhill...then neji showed up and everything was good again.

XanBcoo
Fri, 09-16-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by: Mut@chi


Originally posted by: XanBcoo
comparison
They both look awful.

Shut up. Go watch FMP. We'll let you know when the fillers are over. i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif

darkmetal505
Fri, 09-16-2005, 04:50 PM
The fart didnt ruin it. Think about what wouldve happened if they had gotten sasuke's scent again. More fillers like the orochimaru's castle one. Plus, it would be even harder to get back into the manga. Hinata's move isnt as cool as Neji. Neji pwns all.

DeathscytheVII
Fri, 09-16-2005, 05:01 PM
I thought it was good in comparison to the other fillers, but this is getting old. The closest point i came to liking this episode was when the Kaiten symbol appeared under Hinata, i was so hyped up too. But alas, nothing. And to pour salt into an old wound, there was the fart

I for one, would prefer if Naruto take long breaks between arcs and give us good quality stuff, not drag it out with these fillers. These fillesr kinda killed the atmosphere naruto had in the first eps.

Uberbaka
Fri, 09-16-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by: darkmetal505
The fart didnt ruin it. Think about what wouldve happened if they had gotten sasuke's scent again. More fillers like the orochimaru's castle one. Plus, it would be even harder to get back into the manga. Hinata's move isnt as cool as Neji. Neji pwns all.

I agree with the part that the scent had to be ruined/messed up for the story to work... I was expecting something to happen.

But a fart?

I hated the fart in the kiba fight and I hate it now.

darkmetal505
Fri, 09-16-2005, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by: Uberbaka


Originally posted by: darkmetal505
The fart didnt ruin it. Think about what wouldve happened if they had gotten sasuke's scent again. More fillers like the orochimaru's castle one. Plus, it would be even harder to get back into the manga. Hinata's move isnt as cool as Neji. Neji pwns all.

I agree with the part that the scent had to be ruined/messed up for the story to work... I was expecting something to happen.

But a fart?

I hated the fart in the kiba fight and I hate it now.


lets say it was so stupid... that it became funny

XanBcoo
Fri, 09-16-2005, 09:53 PM
I didn't think it was stupid during the Kiba fight, but in this episode it was pretty sad. I didn't laugh at all.

They could have done anything else. The mission turned out to be a failure anyway, so why didn't they just have the other clan take the bikouchu? Or have the bikouchu die or something? Or get lost? No they had to choose something stupid like a fart b/c Naruto iz funyyyyy!

Edort4
Fri, 09-16-2005, 10:47 PM
I must say this, i need to tell the world, this filler arcs are so fu..ing boring that i hope kishimoto to die and stop seeing such a great initial idea come to this great shit. More filler arcs, hopefully this is the last one because all the teams have apperared, sakura-naruto-jiraya/shika-ino-chou/kiba-shino-hinata/lee-neji-tenten. I spect 3 or 4 boring an shitty episodes to come, more naruto stupiddity, lee and naruto stupid discussions about who is going to kill the bad boss, neji acting like a 50 year ultramature cool guy, and tenten the puppet.

This episode was crap, like all the fillers, sadly on this times fillers have become = bad, boring, no interest story-telling losses of time. Hinatas movement was sooo.. i dont have the words, it was stupid, retarded, even a dog could invent a (cooler?) better justsu, something that actually makes sense. She wasnt even moving his body!!! wtf? just make all the bees attack from the back and u have a massacred hinata pumpkin. She uses chakra like a light saber??? i cant understand it, i tried a lot, but my short mind cant come to any answer that makes sense (other than fillers are story-fuc.ing, time buying episodes with no sense for narutards that love anything they vomit for them, if some1 feels bad with this comment... i hope u can get "lobotomized").

Narutos fart... just the peak, the very zennit of narutos rotten life downfall.

Hopefully the manga makes a little (im not looking for miracles) more sense.

Bye and enjoy the crapshow!

Keno
Sat, 09-17-2005, 12:25 AM
Welcome to the club...

For Naruto, a bright future I see.

Patience is a good thing these days

Jadugar
Sat, 09-17-2005, 02:07 PM
Does anyone think that after making so many filler they are getting so experienced and that they might actually make one that is on equal par with the original manga.

kooshi
Sat, 09-17-2005, 02:51 PM
You would think that would happen, but it doesn't seem to apply much in this case. The only thing they got going is getting the side characters involved.

To Young
Sat, 09-17-2005, 02:59 PM
Ok, So Hinata got a new move.
Quick question, Why does she need to be naked to practice her move? What does water has to do with perfecting that techinique?

fillers can realy mess up the environment and standards of original anime theme.

Terracosmo
Sat, 09-17-2005, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by: Edort4
I must say this, i need to tell the world, this filler arcs are so fu..ing boring that i hope kishimoto to die and stop seeing such a great initial idea come to this great shit.

Kishi isn't involved at all with the anime. Also, it's not like he has a choice. Either they produce shitty fillers, or the anime adaptation of his series gets canceled.

Edort4
Sat, 09-17-2005, 07:25 PM
Yup, u have a point there terra. I know that sr. money is a powerful lord but, couldnt kishimoto just give 10 minutes of his life to watch over these fillers? put some sense in them? They make all the plot go to waste, in my opinion these filler arcs are dangerous, they make naruto a far worse anime than it was, and with so many fillers one after another they make the whole thing even more notorious. If u have a filler between the main plot (quite a good one *sigh*) it pains less, but this... filler avalanche, is starting to hurt seriously the series.

New absurd moves, characters that look like mutants or zombies, far worse than the cursed seals. Characters that are as powerful as a jounin and that without any ninja training (im talking about those 2 baka brothers, not even a jutsu, just brute force, and the managed to beat every1 except hokage, dont start a discussion about this plz), new strange and nonsense moves (hinatas not moving lightsaber-mill jutsu, its another total "offense"!) overuse of narutos "only" jutsu (rasencrap). Here in my country manga and anime arent very famous, i introduced some friends into naruto (they liked it a lot at the begining) but now they start hating it, and it pains me but the truth is that the anime has made a great quality fall. It pains me.

Bye, hope to see u again after the fillers!

Jaredster
Sat, 09-17-2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by: Terracosmo


Originally posted by: Edort4
I must say this, i need to tell the world, this filler arcs are so fu..ing boring that i hope kishimoto to die and stop seeing such a great initial idea come to this great shit.

Kishi isn't involved at all with the anime. Also, it's not like he has a choice. Either they produce shitty fillers, or the anime adaptation of his series gets canceled.


doesn't he help ever a little bit? Like they call him and ask if something could conflict with the manga in the future, like the Mizuke filler?

Terracosmo
Sat, 09-17-2005, 07:29 PM
Well yeah, I'd assume they would have to occasionally ask if what they are doing would collide with Kishi's plans, but aside from those little details the anime crew has full control.

Also, @Edort: Yeah I find it strange as well that Kishi doesn't devote a few minutes to it. I mean, if it was my series, I'd never allow half of the things that has taken place in these fillers. But who knows, maybe Kishi (and the japanese in general) doesn't think as badly of these fillers as we do? Or maybe money is just appealing enough for Kishi to ignore the fillers bad qualities? Then again, it's a harsh world where only the strongest survive (as the author of One Piece once said i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif) so... + it'd be a lot of work to watch over the anime and draw a new manga chapter each week.

Jadugar
Sat, 09-17-2005, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by: To Young
Ok, So Hinata got a new move.
Quick question, Why does she need to be naked to practice her move?


I thought that was to bring in new male fans but that backfired. It would have been a different situation if they had Temari or even Tenten doing some shit naked.

Assertn
Sun, 09-18-2005, 02:24 AM
backfired how? because 5 gotwoot members were bothered by it?

Tonsus
Sun, 09-18-2005, 03:46 AM
Who knows, maybe she did it as a precaution; she may have once before tore off all of her clothes while developing the jutsu...and fell into water.

Personally, I think the only other application I can see her doing this is in a rave party; maybe that's why she's by water all the time, Extasy can dehydrate a person mighty fast.

Terra, I had no idea Charles Darwin wrote One Piece.

Pochii
Sun, 09-18-2005, 12:05 PM
Can some1 post a link please?

XanBcoo
Sun, 09-18-2005, 12:55 PM
I thought the same thing about the filler...perhaps either the anime staff just doesn't know how bad Naruto has gotten, or they actually think it's good. Either way it sucks, because I can't imagine this getting any better.

SeifeR
Sun, 09-18-2005, 05:39 PM
i didnt mind this filler, but to end it with a fart was kinda dumb but w/e. just one more arc it looks like and then back to real naruto i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

a_odessey
Sun, 09-18-2005, 06:19 PM
this filler was pretty gay. but, like everyone else said, it was at least better than your average naruto filler gayness. i think that this would score in my top 10 least gay filler eps. oh well. i just have to say that i can't wait for the real naruto eps to come out and then everyone will be happy yet again!

darkness_and_light
Wed, 09-21-2005, 06:20 AM
I stopped reading at the 3rd page. Yes, there is more then one type of animation in Naruto. Thats true of most anime because a lot of stock animation gets outsourced to smaller production companies because its cheaper, and it gives the main production company more time to finish. Sometimes different production companies get hired to work on different sections to save on time. Thats also why they have a lot of repeat "this is the last 2 min. of the last episode" at the beginning of the episodes, they reuse transformation/attack sequences/etc., bits of animation where only a tiny section of the screen needs to get redrawn, or animation just gets reused. Production companies are under some pretty tight deadlines. Try checking out some of the animes/manga/articles about production companies/production assistants.

The other reason for filler episodes is because they tend to be easier for the production company. Many of them are designed to be easier to make, by allowing the reuse of backgrounds, animation sequences or whatever.

The animators must love Shino. You can create a 20 second dialogue sequence for him using one frame since his jacket hides his mouth.

Psyke
Wed, 09-21-2005, 10:09 AM
Personally I thought this filler was the most interesting out of the fillers. Sure the fart was dumb but we all knew that the Bikochu mission had to fail some how. Adding in the humour was much much better than the lame baka brothers' jokes.

As for why Hinata was using the water for her training: same reason why Domon Kasshu needed a drop of water to get his concentration and why Ninjas like to train underneath waterfalls. And she was naked because she didn't want her clothes to get wet. (other than satisfying fans who wanted to see her naked......Hmmm)

And Kishimoto does not have any says on the anime at all. The rights have been sold to the animation company, and the only credit he gets is that at the beginning of the show it states : "Original creator: Kishimoto Masashi". He might get money based on the viewership and so on, and maybe an advisor to reduce confliting plot advancements in the manga, but that's about it.